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Harsher jail sentence awaits Karam, report

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Lebanon’s Al-Akhbar newspaper reported on Thursday that the Attorney General’s office began studying the file of former Brigadier General Fayez Karam in order to annul the current verdict and request a harsher sentence.

This development comes after the outrage that followed the announcement of the sentence .

Lebanon’s military court on Saturday sentenced Karam , a senior Free Patriotic Movement official , to two years in prison for leaking information to Israel.

The Future Movement bloc said in a statement on Sept 6: “How come Karam was only sentenced to two years in prison, while other collaborators are at least sentenced to 20 years?”

The bloc also slammed MP Michel Aoun , who is also the leader of the Free Patriotic Movement (FPM) , for defending Karam,

“We question the position of the FPM and its ally, Hezbollah, which is remaining silent concerning FPM’s defense of an Israeli agent.”

An unnamed judicial source told Al-Akhbar that the jail term of Karam m ay be increased to 15 years.

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53 responses to “Harsher jail sentence awaits Karam, report”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    In most countries, sentences are overturned to lighten them …. perhaps the ones who got 20 should only have had 2 instead.
    Or is it because he only shook an Israeli hand – in the open – and didn’t do all the ‘spying’ himself?
    Did I miss the news report that told us what information he leaked ?? Could be at least as interesting as the sentence.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    In most countries, sentences are overturned to lighten them …. perhaps the ones who got 20 should only have had 2 instead.
    Or is it because he only shook an Israeli hand – in the open – and didn’t do all the ‘spying’ himself?
    Did I miss the news report that told us what information he leaked ?? Could be at least as interesting as the sentence.

  3. Avatar
    Anonymous

    In most countries, sentences are overturned to lighten them …. perhaps the ones who got 20 should only have had 2 instead.

  4. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Is this the new justice system, based on public outrage or evidence the sentence should be revised , should be an appeal process ,how they could come up with harsher after the verdict is out. We have one of the best law system in the world and now this law is being manipulated by politicians,by masses ,by religious figures ,by parties and etc.
    For sure he needs to get sentenced as similar sentences to other spies by not because of public outrage.
    Also we need to define clearly spying in Lebanon , it applies to Israel and the west only .Syrian / Iranian /Jordanian intelligence are allowed to take place with open heart as they are brotherly moslem countries !!! Syrian intelligence is inside the ministry of defence living the dolce vita , so is the Iranian intelligence , If you need to arrest all the spies in Lebanon may it will account to over  7 to 10 % of the population , can the justice system be above Hizbollah, March 14 and the other dkakin opened in thsi joke country!!!.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Tough to be a lawyer these days … the ‘texts’ don’t spell out all the ‘new rules’ politicians dream up to suit the moment.

  5. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Is this the new justice system, based on public outrage or evidence the sentence should be revised , should be an appeal process ,how they could come up with harsher after the verdict is out. We have one of the best law system in the world and now this law is being manipulated by politicians,by masses ,by religious figures ,by parties and etc.
    For sure he needs to get sentenced as similar sentences to other spies by not because of public outrage.
    Also we need to define clearly spying in Lebanon , it applies to Israel and the west only .Syrian / Iranian /Jordanian intelligence are allowed to take place with open heart as they are brotherly moslem countries !!! Syrian intelligence is inside the ministry of defence living the dolce vita , so is the Iranian intelligence , If you need to arrest all the spies in Lebanon may it will account to over  7 to 10 % of the population , can the justice system be above Hizbollah, March 14 and the other dkakin opened in thsi joke country!!!.

  6. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Is this the new justice system, based on public outrage or evidence the sentence should be revised , should be an appeal process ,how they could come up with harsher after the verdict is out. We have one of the best law system in the world and now this law is being manipulated by politicians,by masses ,by religious figures ,by parties and etc.
    For sure he needs to get sentenced as similar sentences to other spies by not because of public outrage.
    Also we need to define clearly spying in Lebanon , it applies to Israel and the west only .Syrian / Iranian /Jordanian intelligence are allowed to take place with open heart as they are brotherly moslem countries !!! Syrian intelligence is inside the ministry of defence living the dolce vita , so is the Iranian intelligence , If you need to arrest all the spies in Lebanon may it will account to over  7 to 10 % of the population , can the justice system be above Hizbollah, March 14 and the other dkakin opened in thsi joke country!!!.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Tough to be a lawyer these days … the ‘texts’ don’t spell out all the ‘new rules’ politicians dream up to suit the moment.

  7. Beiruti Avatar
    Beiruti

    All this man did was collaborate with Israel (Big Deal), while other people are collaborating with Iran and Syria every second. He went to jail get over it, do you need to honestly give the man a harsher sentence. I am no fan of FPM as you guys probably know through out my comments, but leave the guy alone already. In America OJ Simpson killed his wife, and Casey Anthonys killed her 2 year old baby, and they gotten away with it. Think about this guy, a man is going to jail for “Talking with another country” are you serious? Dont get me wrong i dont like or support Israel in anyway. Palestinians savaged Lebanon 3x more than Israel in terms of deaths, so please next time a politician collaborates with someone in Ramallah or Gaza City also sentence him 3 years to prison. What im saying sounds stupid but this country is becoming a joke, since when in Lebanon are you allowed to bring a man back and give him a bigger sentence due to public pressure?

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      beiruti, there IS something in the legal system that gives a chance for the convicted to have a second go in refuting the sentence. this is nothing unusual…..though in this case, it is the judges that are changing their minds lol.

      although i understand where you are coming from and frankly i agree with you, why stop at an agent with israel? why not USA/Lybia/Iran etc? 

      reardless of everything, this whole episode only confirmed the opinion of those pple who asked for STL in 2005. our legal system is run by mostly immoral poeple who recieve bribes left and right…this is not justice it is law of the jungle.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        The ‘police’ don’t understand the ‘legal system’ … why should anyone else?

      2. Beiruti Avatar
        Beiruti

        I understand Antar and i agree with you, but i have only seen it in use when they wanted to prove a guilty was innocent or an innocent was guilty after the wrong conviction. Or reducing a sentence or increasing (after long period of time). But never in my life i have seen suddenly a judge change his mind due to public insults and pressure, is this a joke lol?

    2. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      beiruti, there IS something in the legal system that gives a chance for the convicted to have a second go in refuting the sentence. this is nothing unusual…..though in this case, it is the judges that are changing their minds lol.

      although i understand where you are coming from and frankly i agree with you, why stop at an agent with israel? why not USA/Lybia/Iran etc? 

      reardless of everything, this whole episode only confirmed the opinion of those pple who asked for STL in 2005. our legal system is run by mostly immoral poeple who recieve bribes left and right…this is not justice it is law of the jungle.

    3. Kamran Aghajani Avatar
      Kamran Aghajani

      Seriously, shut up.

      when has Iran bombed/invade Lebanon?

      1. Beiruti Avatar
        Beiruti

        Typical losers like you on this site, coming and swearing at people, another low class scum like you. Calling me sick yet not knowing anything about me. You totally changed the subject, why would Iran bomb Lebanon? When they could infiltrate it instead (Which they are doing) shut up and stop acting like Israel is the only country that harmed Lebanon and its people. Dont play stupid and open a book, you sound like another 10 year old kid who learned history from his brainwashed father.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Maybe he knows Leo …

        2. Kamran Aghajani Avatar
          Kamran Aghajani

          our aid money builds your schools, our weapons protect your country from invasion.

          you should be thanking us, there has never been Iranian troops in Lebanon, like Syria and Israel did.

          you have been invaded by 5-6 different people, Palestinian, Syrian, Israeli, but never Iranian.

          your mistrust and anger is directed towards the wrong people my Lebanese friend. 

        3. Patience2 Avatar
          Patience2

          See??  Suddenly you are surrounded by a cloud(1) of fruit flies!  Of course Iran has invaded Lebanon.  They are identified by their yellow and green.  This guy IS slow-witted!  Don’t let this creep get to you.

      2. Beiruti Avatar
        Beiruti

        Typical losers like you on this site, coming and swearing at people, another low class scum like you. Calling me sick yet not knowing anything about me. You totally changed the subject, why would Iran bomb Lebanon? When they could infiltrate it instead (Which they are doing) shut up and stop acting like Israel is the only country that harmed Lebanon and its people. Dont play stupid and open a book, you sound like another 10 year old kid who learned history from his brainwashed father.

      3. master09 Avatar
        master09

        Why did the other country you are talking about bomb and invade Lebanon ??  

      4. Fadi81 Avatar
        Fadi81

        seriously are you lost? we should be thanking Iran for what??? for the schools where HA hides weapon caches that are illegali smuggled in the country and destabalizing the political spectrum? what good has Iran brought to the world? and please dont say persian rugs….hate and ideology is what i think of when hearing the name Iran…look at what your govt does to its own people, you have enough on your hands without coming on this website and opening up a whole other can of worms.

        1. Patience2 Avatar
          Patience2

          I don’t think he’ll say ‘Persian rugs’, these are made using lots of child labor, a thing only China excels them in!

      5. Beiruti Avatar
        Beiruti

        Why did you edit your response to make yourself look clean and my my response look dirty? For everyone out hear i would like to let you know that this man called me a sick and edited his response to make himself look like a nice man.

        1. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          That Kamran guy is an idiot…of course he wants you to look bad and pretends that he is nice. Look at how he is talking about Iran building Lebanon and that we should be thankful!! Actually we should be thankful that people like him live in Iran and not in Lebanon!!:) 

    4. master09 Avatar
      master09

      But the other people you are talking about are our heroes ,they can do what they want, LOL They will let another group who are part of another country use arms in Lebanon, but again that is OK.  

    5. master09 Avatar
      master09

      But the other people you are talking about are our heroes ,they can do what they want, LOL They will let another group who are part of another country use arms in Lebanon, but again that is OK.  

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    All this man did was collaborate with Israel (Big Deal), while other people are collaborating with Iran and Syria every second. He went to jail get over it, do you need to honestly give the man a harsher sentence. I am no fan of FPM as you guys probably know through out my comments, but leave the guy alone already. In America OJ Simpson killed his wife, and Casey Anthonys killed her 2 year old baby, and they gotten away with it. Think about this guy, a man is going to jail for “Talking with another country” are you serious? Dont get me wrong i dont like or support Israel in anyway. Palestinians savaged Lebanon 3x more than Israel in terms of deaths, so please next time a politician collaborates with someone in Ramallah or Gaza City also sentence him 3 years to prison. What im saying sounds stupid but this country is becoming a joke, since when in Lebanon are you allowed to bring a man back and give him a bigger sentence?

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      beiruti, there IS something in the legal system that gives the convicted to have a second go in refuting the sentence. this is nothing unusual.

      although i understand where you are coming from and frankly i agree with you, why stop at an agent with israel? why not USA/Lybia/Iran etc? 

      reardless of everything, this hole episode only confirmed the opinion of those pple who asked for STL in 2005. our legal system is run by mostly immoral poeple who recieve bribes left and right…this is not justice it is law of the jungle.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        The ‘police’ don’t understand the ‘legal system’ … why should anyone else?

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        I understand Antar and i agree with you, but i have only seen it in use when they wanted to prove a guilty was innocent or an innocent was guilty after the wrong conviction. Or reducing a sentence or increasing (after long period of time). But never in my life i have seen suddenly a judge change his mind due to public insults and pressure, is this a joke lol?

    2. Kamran Aghajani Avatar
      Kamran Aghajani

      Seriously, shut up, you sick miserable loser.

      WHEN HAS IRAN BOMBED AND INVADED LEBANON?

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Typical losers like you on this site, coming and swearing at people, another low class scum like you. Calling me sick yet not knowing anything about me. You totally changed the subject, why would Iran bomb Lebanon? When they could infiltrate it instead (Which they are doing) shut up and stop acting like Israel is the only country that harmed Lebanon and its people. Dont play stupid and open a book, you sound like another 10 year old kid who learned history from his brainwashed father.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Maybe he knows Leo …

        2. Kamran Aghajani Avatar
          Kamran Aghajani

          our aid money builds your schools, our weapons protect your country from invasion.

          you should be thanking us, there has never been Iranian troops in Lebanon, like Syria and Israel did.

          you have been invaded by 5-6 different people, Palestinian, Syrian, Israeli, but never Iranian.

          your mistrust and anger is directed towards the wrong people my Lebanese friend. 

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          See??  Suddenly you are surrounded by a cloud(1) of fruit flies!  Of course Iran has invaded Lebanon.  They are identified by their yellow and green.  This guy IS slow-witted!  Don’t let this creep get to you.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Why did the other country you are talking about bomb and invade Lebanon ??  

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        seriously are you lost? we should be thanking Iran for what??? for the schools where HA hides weapon caches that are illegali smuggled in the country and destabalizing the political spectrum? what good has Iran brought to the world? and please dont say persian rugs….hate and ideology is what i think of when hearing the name Iran…look at what your govt does to its own people, you have enough on your hands without coming on this website and opening up a whole other can of worms.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I don’t think he’ll say ‘Persian rugs’, these are made using lots of child labor, a thing only China excels them in!

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I don’t think he’ll say ‘Persian rugs’, these are made using lots of child labor, a thing only China excels them in!

      4. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Why did you edit your response to make yourself look clean and my my response look dirty? For everyone out hear i would like to let you know that this man called me a sick and edited his response to make himself look like a nice man.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          That Kamran guy is an idiot…of course he wants you to look bad and pretends that he is nice. Look at how he is talking about Iran building Lebanon and that we should be thankful!! Actually we should be thankful that people like him live in Iran and not in Lebanon!!:) 

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      But the other people you are talking about are our heroes ,they can do what they want, LOL They will let another group who are part of another country use arms in Lebanon, but again that is OK.  

  9. MistryMan Avatar
    MistryMan

    You all need to take a step back and look at the double standard our country is based on. Hizbollah are quiet about it because they need the FPM for their christian backing. if Karam belong to March 14, believe me they would have demanded the death penalty. So Karam gets of lightly because his political affiliation is with March 8 who are in power. Double standard is all I can say. Our country is currently run by a bunch of actors. Some object, others threat to resign and all becomes nice and dandy. What a joke of well performed and rehersed play.

  10. MistryMan Avatar
    MistryMan

    You all need to take a step back and look at the double standard our country is based on. Hizbollah are quiet about it because they need the FPM for their christian backing. if Karam belong to March 14, believe me they would have demanded the death penalty. So Karam gets of lightly because his political affiliation is with March 8 who are in power. Double standard is all I can say. Our country is currently run by a bunch of actors. Some object, others threat to resign and all becomes nice and dandy. What a joke of well performed and rehersed play.

  11. Avatar
    Anonymous

    You all need to take a step back and look at the double standard our country is based on. Hizbollah are quiet about it because they need the FPM for their christian backing. if Karam belong to March 14, believe me they would have demanded the death penalty. So Karam gets of lightly because his political affiliation is with March 8 who are in power. Double standard is all I can say. Our country is currently run by a bunch of actors. Some object, others threat to resign and all becomes nice and dandy. What a joke of well performed and rehersed play.

  12. 2160John Avatar
    2160John

    All information regarding his spying activities should be extracted. He should be ordered to work actively against his previous contacts and reveal any other spies associated with him or known about. Once that is over, he should be sent for execution.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Now you sound like a student of Mao … I assume you read the little red book. When did you turn in your parents?

      1. 2160John Avatar
        2160John

        After I sent yours to the gas chambers.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Not mine, dickhead … but I can imagine you would. If not Mao, then maybe a ‘Minuteman’ student?  😉

  13. Avatar
    Anonymous

    All information regarding his spying activities should be extracted. He should be ordered to work actively against his previous contacts and reveal any other spies associated with him or known about. Once that is over, he should be sent for execution.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Now you sound like a student of Mao … I assume you read the little red book. When did you turn in your parents?

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        After I sent yours to the gas chambers.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Not mine, dickhead … but I can imagine you would. If not Mao, then maybe a ‘Minuteman’ student?  😉

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