About 40 killed in huge Israel forest fire near Haifa

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Around 40 people are believed to have been killed in a devastating forest fire raging out of control near Israel’s northern city of Haifa, the country’s ambulance service said on Thursday.

Officials described the inferno as among the worst in the nation’s history, with hundreds of firefighters on the ground and in the air battling to tame the blaze.

Israel’s ambulance service Magen David Adom said its paramedics were on the ground treating people caught in the flames.

“There are about 45 casualties, of whom about 40 are dead,” the ambulance service said in a statement.

Witnesses reported gruesome scenes.

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men look at the forest fire that broke out near kibbutz Beit Oren in the north of Israel December 2, 2010.
Fireman Dudu Vanunu told Channel Two television he saw flames consume a bus believed to be trying to evacuate people ahead of the enormous fire.

“Anyone who’s ever seen a firestorm will know. They could not survive it, they had no protection, they just fell to the road and burned alive,” he said.

Public radio reported earlier that a bus carrying 50 people had overturned while trying to escape the blaze and had been caught in the fire.

The Zaka organization, which specializes in recovering human remains in accordance with Jewish religious law, put out a call for all its volunteers to report to the area.

“To my regret, people have lost their lives,” Eli Bin, the head of the Israeli national ambulance service, told public radio.

Police said they evacuated the Damon prison, which mainly houses Palestinian security prisoners and those found in Israel without permits.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said that about 20 families from the Arab village of Ussafiya had been evacuated from their homes as flames swept through the pine forest covering the Carmel hill ridge, one of Israel’s most popular beauty spots.

Yoram Levy, a spokesman for the Israeli Fire and Rescue Commission, said emergency workers had evacuated the nearby Beit Oren Kibbutz and a luxury hotel in the path of the fire.

“It’s one of the biggest fires we’ve ever had. In 1998 we had one like this, but not since then,” he told AFP.

At 4:30 pm (1430 GMT) Levy said the blaze was still burning out of control.

“It’s not getting better, and it’s getting dark,” he told AFP.

He said around 100 firefighters were tackling the flames, including some of the Israeli military, and helicopters and other aircraft were spraying the fire with water from the air.

Witnesses reported fire services from throughout Israel were rushing to the scene. The radio reported that 40 fire engines and six aircraft were seeking to control the flames.

After a long, dry summer Israel is experiencing an unusually warm and dry autumn.

The Israel Meteorological Service listed the midday temperature in the Haifa area on Thursday as 31 degrees Celsius (87 Fahrenheit) with winds reaching 30 kilometres per hour (17 mph).

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114 responses to “About 40 killed in huge Israel forest fire near Haifa”

  1. Sounds like Karma at work here??

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      Wishing our enemies harm via disaster is not human. Standing defiantly against their aggression is one thing but praying to God to burn the civilians alive is another.

      1. Was that meant to be a reply to me Hannibal ???? If so please read my post properly and don’t just write randomly. I didn’t post any of that stuff u assumed I did so what are u on about buddy????

        1. Innocent Palestinians have been burned alive and have had their houses burnt to the ground on a regular basis but no one comes to their aid and to add insult to injury all this happens not from nature and bush fires but from the IDF from orders given by the israeli elected government. The Palestinians are subjected to daily humiliation and illegally imposed sanctions causing many innocent palestinian women and children to die unnecessarily from lack of medicine and food so forgive me if I’m not totally sympathetic in this instance to the Israelis

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          Two wrongs does not make it right. However, I am with you that every time a bell rings in honolulu the Palestinians pay the price. Bashir Gemayel is assassinated by the Syrians and we get Sabra and Shatila where innocent civilians are massacred instead of those forces attacking the Syrian army for instance, and so on. The Palestinians have been used and abused by their Arab levant brothers more so than at the hands of the Zionists. Every jerk nation out there, from Egypt to Jordan to Iran to whatever claim their carry their cause to reach personal gains at the expense of a nation without home. I hear you man. However, I am still against wishing my enemy to be burnt but have no doubt I would carry weapons against their invading army. We have the same purpose I guess but different routes.

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Thumbs up , I agree with you that No one should wish that your enemy’s civilians burn alive in a natural disaster like this
          This fire could have easily been on our side of the border,with worse consequence,and more casualties. Heroism is when you stand up up and defend your country against your enemy, not when they suffer a natural disaster .Had a military base been burned, I would have said one less to stand up to.

        4. Hannibal Avatar

          Prophet,
          Have you seen the wikileak about Murr asking the Americans to spy in Lebanon without the knowledge of the government?

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Yes Hannibal,I read about it, but have yet to see the actual document.I’ve been a little busy to invest more time into wikileaks. Remember I posted few of them before most people saw them.lol I think we will see more revealing documents about Lebanon. I could understand The king of Saudi Arabia saying/doing anything he wants, since He sets,and changes any rule , but I can’t understand a minister acting like a king.lol I would not be surprised if Bellmare delayed the release of his Indictment because of fear of related documents.I know this is speculation, But The direct US involvement might turn out to embarrassing to both Bellmare and The US.I’m loving this sharshaha.lolupdate; If You have not seen the document,go to the Guadrian.uk.

        1. Hannibal, wasnt bashir assassinated by israel because he refused to do what they wanted after they got him to be a president??

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          On that one Cathy there is proof it was done by rogue SSNP working for Syrian Intelligence. There is no question about it. As much as I would like to prove otherwise and point the finger southwardly in that particular case I am sorry. πŸ˜‰

        3. well Hannibal, you’re right habib shartouni was technically responsible for planting the bomb (he was a christian maronite by the way) BUT there are many many theories that say that Israel had a hand behind it and pushed shartouni to the assassination t make it look like Syria was behind it…

    2. Hannibal Avatar

      Wishing our enemies harm via disaster is not human. Standing defiantly against their aggression is one thing but praying to God to burn the civilians alive is another.

      1. Was that meant to be a reply to me Hannibal ???? If so please read my post properly and don’t just write randomly. I didn’t post any of that stuff u assumed I did so what are u on about buddy????

        1. Innocent Palestinians have been burned alive and have had their houses burnt to the ground on a regular basis but no one comes to their aid and to add insult to injury all this happens not from nature and bush fires but from the IDF from orders given by the israeli elected government. The Palestinians are subjected to daily humiliation and illegally imposed sanctions causing many innocent palestinian women and children to die unnecessarily from lack of medicine and food so forgive me if I’m not totally sympathetic in this instance to the Israelis

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Yes Hannibal,I read about it, but have yet to see the actual document.I’ve been a little busy to invest more time into wikileaks. Remember I posted few of them before most people saw them.lol I think we will see more revealing documents about Lebanon. I could understand The king of Saudi Arabia saying/doing anything he wants, since He sets,and changes any rule , but I can’t understand a minister acting like a king.lol I would not be surprised if Bellmare delayed the release of his Indictment because of fear of related documents.I know this is speculation, But The direct US involvement might turn out to embarrassing to both Bellmare and The US.I’m loving this sharshaha.lolupdate; If You have not seen the document,go to the Guadrian.uk.

        1. Hannibal, wasnt bashir assassinated by israel because he refused to do what they wanted after they got him to be a president??

        2. well Hannibal, you’re right habib shartouni was technically responsible for planting the bomb (he was a christian maronite by the way) BUT there are many many theories that say that Israel had a hand behind it and pushed shartouni to the assassination t make it look like Syria was behind it…

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    Sounds like Karma at work here??

    1. Wishing our enemies harm via disaster is not human. Standing defiantly against their aggression is one thing but praying to God to burn the civilians alive is another.

      1.  Avatar

        Was that meant to be a reply to me Hannibal ???? If so please read my post properly and don’t just write randomly. I didn’t post any of that stuff u assumed I did so what are u on about buddy????

        1.  Avatar

          Innocent Palestinians have been burned alive and have had their houses burnt to the ground on a regular basis but no one comes to their aid and to add insult to injury all this happens not from nature and bush fires but from the IDF from orders given by the israeli elected government. The Palestinians are subjected to daily humiliation and illegally imposed sanctions causing many innocent palestinian women and children to die unnecessarily from lack of medicine and food so forgive me if I’m not totally sympathetic in this instance to the Israelis

        2. Two wrongs does not make it right. However, I am with you that every time a bell rings in honolulu the Palestinians pay the price. Bashir Gemayel is assassinated by the Syrians and we get Sabra and Shatila where innocent civilians are massacred instead of those forces attacking the Syrian army for instance, and so on. The Palestinians have been used and abused by their Arab levant brothers more so than at the hands of the Zionists. Every jerk nation out there, from Egypt to Jordan to Iran to whatever claim their carry their cause to reach personal gains at the expense of a nation without home. I hear you man. However, I am still against wishing my enemy to be burnt but have no doubt I would carry weapons against their invading army. We have the same purpose I guess but different routes.

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Thumbs up , I agree with you that No one should wish that your enemy’s civilians burn alive in a natural disaster like this
          This fire could have easily been on our side of the border,with worse consequence,and more casualties. Heroism is when you stand up up and defend your country against your enemy, not when they suffer a natural disaster .Had a military base been burned, I would have said one less to stand up to.

        4. Prophet,
          Have you seen the wikileak about Murr asking the Americans to spy in Lebanon without the knowledge of the government?

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Yes Hannibal,I read about it, but have yet to see the actual document.I’ve been a little busy to invest more time into wikileaks. Remember I posted few of them before most people saw them.lol I think we will see more revealing documents about Lebanon. I could understand The king of Saudi Arabia saying anything he wants, since He sets,and changes any rule , but I can’t understand a minister acting like a king.lol I would not be surprised if Bellmare delayed the release of his Indictment is related to what might be published soon.I know this is speculation, But The direct US involvement might turn out to embarrassing to both Bellmare and The US.I’m loving this sharshaha.lol

        1.  Avatar

          Hannibal, wasnt bashir assassinated by israel because he refused to do what they wanted after they got him to be a president??

        2. On that one Cathy there is proof it was done by rogue SSNP working for Syrian Intelligence. There is no question about it. As much as I would like to prove otherwise and point the finger southwardly in that particular case I am sorry. πŸ˜‰

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          well Hannibal, you’re right habib shartouni was technically responsible for planting the bomb (he was a christian maronite by the way) BUT there are many many theories that say that Israel had a hand behind it and pushed shartouni to the assassination t make it look like Syria was behind it…

  3. 7akibalash Avatar
    7akibalash

    this is a terroristic attack against Israel, two have been caught in the act of tossing firebombs and arrested they are both Israeli arabs. perhaps more are involved in the attack and we will know alot more in a few days when the fire extinguished.

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      You are right 7akibalash, So you can say anything you want,lol

      1. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        well falseprophet, you can believe what you want too, but the fact remains: 2 arabs have been arrested after areal video footage from an airforce surveillance plane caught them lobbing firebombs in the carmel area, police surrounded and arrested them. I know you dont like the idea that “palestinkians” will do anything to kill Israelis, but this is a reality not a game. it smelled funny to me from the first news report, I mean what are the odds of several fires “naturally” starting at the same time in seperate areas and not even connected to each other? must be foul play, common sense would suggest this, correct? oh and about my nic, I made it after reading all your comments πŸ˜‰

        1. oh ya 7akibalash just like the “footage” that “proved” the mavi marmara passengers were all terrorists as claimed by your govt and had no humanitarian aid whatsoever, only for another investigation to later reveal that it had over 20M$ in aid and no weapons except for kitchen knives from the kitchen on the ship lol

          stop your propaganda you loser

          oh btw, for those of you who havent heard, the #1 of hamas apparently said yesterday that hamas is willing to accept a peace settlement with Israel if the majority of palis accept it..this was reported in an israeli newspaper….well at least some progress!

        2. 7akibalash Avatar
          7akibalash

          @cathy82, what can I say… that you are one brainwashed idiot? ok I wont say that but I will say this to you… I am Lebanese not Israeli you sad excuse of a human being.
          the terrorist aboard mavi marmara were chanting “khaybar khaybar ya yahood jayshu mohamed sawfa ya3oud” you tell me what that was all about? do you know what mohamed and his thugs did to the Jews of khaybar? very peacefull activists onboard that ship indeed!!!! (sarcasm incase you are too stupid to get it too)… but regardless, I was talking about the fires that were purposefully started by individuals who happened to be arabs living in Israel… why dont you read the news sometimes before making an arse out of yourself? even this site is covering it, but they arent saying “arab” they are just saying individuals. I wonder why?

          propoganda eh?? wow coming from a brainwashed idiot like yourself, it almost sounds like a compliment. πŸ˜€

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar

          7akibalash,
          Israel is always eager to find some one to blame for anything that happens in Israel.Soon you will blame the Arabs for failing to control the fire as well too.
          Trust me we hope that you control this fire soon. No one is happy to see anyone burn in a natural disaster,even if we consider you an enemy. Natural disasters could happen anywhere.

        4. PROPHET.T Avatar

          7akibalash
          You sounded just like an Israeli or some one living in Israel.
          Either way, You don’t need to get nasty and disrespectful. Stop calling people names and throwing insults.

        5. 7akibalash, thats exactley what you’re doing, 7aki bi balash….dont worry im no fool, I called it YOUR govt for a reason, its called sarcasm ya hmar, so you’re actually the dumb one who cant understand sh***.

          and as far as the chants you’re yapping about, actually, YOU should read up on news because there were many NON-MUSLIM humanitarian workers on that ship including a pure canadian that spoke on canadian tv….there were no chants …read up on how the israeli gov is in complete embarrasement about the whole ordeal because they were caught lying…..

          LOL @ telling me to read the news…what a f**** moron you are… here you uneducated dumb twat, look at the first headline on HAARETZ

          “INVESTIGATORS BELEIVE NEGLIGENCE NOT ARSON CAUSED WILDFIRE”

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/investigators-believe-negligence-not-arson-caused-wildfire-in-the-north-1.328668

          can you read THAT you dumb mofo??

        6. Hannibal Avatar

          Arabs caused the extinction of the dinosaurs too HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        7. LOOOL @ YOU telling ME to read the news!!!!

          here read HAREETZ you moron the huge headline is that “investigators say negligence NOT arson is behind the wildfire”

        8. 7akibalash Avatar
          7akibalash

          @cathy82, keep reading, dont stop at the speculations of the police commissioner. and use your brain for once atleast, negligence doesnt start dozens of fires accross the country, terrorists do.

        9. ba3den ya 7akibalash, whatever you are, leb or israeli, I meant to say YOUR govt as sarcasm in case you didnt get that which you obviously didnt….

          plus the 2 israeli arabs you’re talking about were DRUZE who are known for being some of the most loyal to Israel, hence why they are allowed to serve in the army, so they werent “terrorists” as you mentionned plus they were released and cleared from charges!!

        10. LOL huh? keep reading? man you’re a real moron…keep reading what? so now the haaretz doesnt know what they’re talking about?

      2. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        why did you say I sounded Israeli or someone living in Israel? what did I say to make you think that?
        perhaps while you’re thinking up an answer you can take a deep look into yourself and your prejudices.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Why would you consider mistaking someone into being an Israeli is prejudice.?
          Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel. It is the typical Israeli propaganda tool.Did you really need this explanation? So giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not Israeli, I have assume the second; A supporter of Israel.
          Now you know that you could not hid it , even if when you try.lol

      3. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        btw, you will see and time will tell that this is no natural disaster, one fire I could understand, but there was dozens of fires that were started in a vast area some were small and others got big, some they already put out and the main huge one is still blazing.. the fires were intentionally set.. the question is by who?

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          7akibalash
          As Lebanese we have enough to worry about. I COULD CARELESS WHAT HAPPENS IN ISRAEL. You mistook my sympathy to the lose of human lives in a natural disaster , for a total concern to what happens in Israel.
          please leave us alone.lol

      4. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        “Why would you consider mistaking someone into being an Israeli is prejudice.?”
        do you know the meaning of prejudice?

        “Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel.”
        one example of prejudice.

        would you like another?

        anyway, I am meerly stating facts, excuse me if you can not handle the truth. someone who blows up a school bus (one example)is a terrorist, he is doing it not just to kill those on the bus but to spread terror and fear amongst the people.

        in your twisted logic, palestinians can attack israelis any way they want(using terror tactics for one) and they arent responsible for their actions?… you cant be this brainwashed kido!!!

        furthermore, I do not subscribe to your hatred of Israel, Israelis or the Jews or the USA for that matter… now you will call me a traitor I bet, cause according to your twisted logic, one can not be Lebanese and not hate Israel or the Israelis.

        you have a blind hatred in your heart, I understand this. but dont think that everyone must be a lunatic like you and like alot of lunatics in Lebanon who will not let things go, and perpetuate the state of sh*t our country is always in.
        and then in the end blame Israel for all your problems, cause you are perfect and you have no flaws.

        this way of thinking is what plagues our country, our leaders can be talking about agriculture, and somewhere in middle of their speech, they must mention “al 3adouw el Isra2ili”, this is done on a regular basis to confirm to everyone their Lebanese identity… how pathetic and sad of a people who claim to be “azka el nas bil 3alam”.
        our identity as people does not depend on the level of hatred we have for Israel, and how outspoken we are about it.
        you, falseprophet and cathy, and people like you are the problem of Lebanon.
        you leave us the hell alone… we dont need your kind telling us how to feel and what to think, we are smarter and way more educated than you, and we believe in forgiveness not revenge, those are the lebanese I grew up with and grew to love and respect… not your kind, your kind are filthy scum and belong in the trash bins of history.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          7akibalash
          OK, you want to do this, I’m ready for you, lol
          Do you want to talk about terrorism? Do you want to ethnic cleaning? Do you want to talk about a terrorist state destroying entire villages? Do you want to talk about a terrorist state that uses phosphoric, and uranium tipped weapons against civilians? Do you want to talk about shooting young kids while being held by their parents? Do you want to talk about kicking out hundreds of thousands of people from their homes to make room for Jewish immigrants from Europe?
          Do you want to talk about a state that invades and kills people as a matter of life style? Do you want to talk about a state that imprisons young Palestinians kid for political reasons? Do you want to talk about a state that restricts people from practicing their religion in the west bank and Jerusalem? Do you want to talk about a state that claims that God promises it a piece of land called Palestine? Well, God didn’t tell me that. Did he tell you that?
          Do you want to talk about a state that condones the stealing of human organs from corps of its victims, AND SELLS THEM?
          Now you tell me where you want to start?
          I agree with you that blowing up a buss in Tel Aviv is a terrorist attack, tell me that you agree that Israel is a state that was built with terror, and lives with terror.
          Tell me that you agree that Israel is a racist state. Don’t you?
          Now, what makes you think I HATE THE JEWS? I DON’T HATE JEWS FOR BEING JEWS.
          WHAT MAKES YOUTHINK I HATE AMERICA? I AM A PROUD AMERICAN LEBANESE. MY KIDS ARE AMERICANS.
          I have no hatred toward Jews. I just despise arrogant Israelis who condone murder, and claim to right al the time. I hate people who distort historical facts to justify their own murderous behavior. I hate people who tell me that they are chosen, by God . I had no idea that God was a real estate agent. I had no idea that GOD treats his creatures differently.
          Let’s see, you still want to call me and Cathy; scum bags?
          Get lost ,please

        2. take your zionist propaganda off of here you sell out, you are not stating any facts, you are stating hasbara propaganda

        3. LOOL @ 7AKIBALASH ” we are smarter and way more educated than you, and we believe in forgiveness not revenge”

          I love how you think you are above everyone because you beleive in forgiving Israel (whatever the hell that means)

          Listen KIDDO, what dont you go and read up a bit from outside sources other than the ouwwet website. go listen to JEWS not arabs, not muslims, not christians, JEWS talking about how they are sick of not being able to even slightly criticize any of Israel criminal policies and not being called a self hating jew. go read about what ISRAEL human rights organizations say about what the IDF does to innocent young palestinians aged 12 yrs old (the report came out straight from bet’sellem) and how they come to get 12 yr olds in the middle of the night to “interrogate them” all night, which means torture and humuliation.

          WTF do YOU know about what’s going on int he real world if you read nothing but your zionist propaganda?

          You know Norman Finklestein once said, you can choose to live under the shoe of the US AND ISRAEL instead of fighting for your freedom, just like you couldnt wait to welcome condoleeza rice after the 2006 war when they didnt even lift a finger to stop Israel from incurring 1000 casualties, but then he said, dont be surprised when the world has NO RESPECT for you, because you dont respect yourselves. HE SAID I ACTUALLY ADMIRE THE JEWS A LOT MORE in this perspective rather than arabs because the JEWS ‘MOTTO IS: NEVER FORGIVE-NEVER FORGET!!!

          go read about the armenian christians who are being harrassed daily in israel by orthodox jews and cannot go to church, really look it up.

          so if you want to delute yourself into thinking that you’re this avant gardiste who is westernized and cultivated, you go right ahead lol but one piece of advice, before you make a fool out of yourself in front of ACTUALLY educated and cultivated people who are aware of what is going on in the world and read more than one source of news, read up you moron on what the WORLD is saying about Israel, the power of the israeli lobby, i mean HELEN THOMAS for God’s sake who is a lebanese christian and has worked years as a reporter in washignton, said the truth about the israeli lobby in washington and she should know what the heck she’s talking about, she was right in there!

          many many americans are waking up and blogging and calling in on radio shows about how they refuse to pay taxes to bail out and help an apartheid state like Israel.

          oh and by the way 7AKIBALASH, I am not for the detsruction of Israel actually, I beleive it exists and we shall live with it BUT only if it goes back to its pre-1967 borders and stop expanding and throwing inncoent palestinians out of their homes (including christian palestinians) to build illegal settlements in which the most ultra orthodox jews live (btw, those dont even look you in the eye if you are a gentile cos you are satan to them) AND if it allows palestinian refugees in lebanon and other countries the right to return to their homes.

          God i cant stand morons like you who are so f****n delusional and they think they know everything when they are as ignorant as Jessica simpson about world matters.

      5. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        @ falseprophet, and this is supposed to prove my assessment of you wrong? you are one hatefull piece of scum, there is so much hate in your heart it is enough to poison a whole city. and this is by your admission , thank you for proving me right(in my assessment of your nature) πŸ˜€

        you said: “I agree with you that blowing up a buss in Tel Aviv is a terrorist attack”

        and earlier you said : “Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel.”

        so by your own logic….. you must be an Israeli or a supporter of Israel… case closed you FAILED big time … the sad part is all this probably just went right over your head … let’s hope not though πŸ˜‰
        remove the hate and the prejudice from your heart…. we dont need more prejudiced haters in Lebanon.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Is that all you have to say? You could not respond to any of the point I made.
          You are twisting ,and spinning words here.
          I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol

        2. 7akibalash Avatar
          7akibalash

          @falseprophet, are you mentally challenged or something? I am being serious or maybe you have ADD, cause ana bi7ki bil shar2 w inti bitrid 3layi bil gharb.
          go back and read all the comments in order so you can see the point that i was talking about all along, I am getting tired of taking a step forward and having you try to make me take 10 steps back… catch up kido πŸ˜€
          the conversation isnt about the atrocities committed by Israel, two wrongs never ever ever make a right.
          is it possible that you can keep a coherent discussion without getting into your hate Israel rant?
          “You are twisting ,and spinning words here.” I only quoted your own words I never added twisted or spun anything. you called me an israeli then you said I must be a supporter of israel because I said it is a terrorist attack on Israel. then i took you through logical steps to show you that your logic is flawed and full of hate and prejudice. I made my point, the case is closed, go cry to your mommy now mental midget.
          oh and by the way, you are the one who has to live with hate in your heart not me… so what do i care who you hate or who you like?
          “I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol”
          awww , what do we do without precious sarcasm? you see what i mean? full of hate.
          Jesus while on the cross said “forgive them for they know not what they do”
          mohamed taught you eye for an eye, so you dont get the whole concept of forgiveness I guess.
          it all makes sense now… but you still must try because it is no way to live with hate in your heart. it is the only words of wisdom I care to share with you.

      6. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        by the way falseprophet, I chose not to answer your palywood propoganda about Israel because it has nothing to do with what we were talking about. needless to say I heard all that before and upon doing research, it turns out more than 95% of that crap is just that, lies by one side to villify the other and gain world opinion. one day you might open your mind up and do your own truthfull research, not fueled by prejudice and hate … I hope you got the full picture kido.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred. now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran.
          You can’t answer my questions. You are entitled to your opinions , but not to your fact,as Patrick Moynihan said once.
          I STAND BY WHAT I SAID .

      7. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        “So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred”
        when did I mention politics? care to quote me?

        “now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran”
        I never changed topics, it is you who is trying to drag me into a conversation about Israel because you are the one who is obsessed not me” btw it’s moron not moran.
        being called a moron by a scumbag prejudice hater is definitely a compliment .. thank you πŸ˜€

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar

      You are right 7akibalash, So you can say anything you want,lol

      1. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        well falseprophet, you can believe what you want too, but the fact remains: 2 arabs have been arrested after areal video footage from an airforce surveillance plane caught them lobbing firebombs in the carmel area, police surrounded and arrested them. I know you dont like the idea that “palestinkians” will do anything to kill Israelis, but this is a reality not a game. it smelled funny to me from the first news report, I mean what are the odds of several fires “naturally” starting at the same time in seperate areas and not even connected to each other? must be foul play, common sense would suggest this, correct? oh and about my nic, I made it after reading all your comments πŸ˜‰

        1. oh ya 7akibalash just like the “footage” that “proved” the mavi marmara passengers were all terrorists as claimed by your govt and had no humanitarian aid whatsoever, only for another investigation to later reveal that it had over 20M$ in aid and no weapons except for kitchen knives from the kitchen on the ship lol

          stop your propaganda you loser

          oh btw, for those of you who havent heard, the #1 of hamas apparently said yesterday that hamas is willing to accept a peace settlement with Israel if the majority of palis accept it..this was reported in an israeli newspaper….well at least some progress!

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          7akibalash
          You sounded just like an Israeli or some one living in Israel.
          Either way, You don’t need to get nasty and disrespectful. Stop calling people names and throwing insults.

        3. 7akibalash, thats exactley what you’re doing, 7aki bi balash….dont worry im no fool, I called it YOUR govt for a reason, its called sarcasm ya hmar, so you’re actually the dumb one who cant understand sh***.

          and as far as the chants you’re yapping about, actually, YOU should read up on news because there were many NON-MUSLIM humanitarian workers on that ship including a pure canadian that spoke on canadian tv….there were no chants …read up on how the israeli gov is in complete embarrasement about the whole ordeal because they were caught lying…..

          LOL @ telling me to read the news…what a f**** moron you are… here you uneducated dumb twat, look at the first headline on HAARETZ

          “INVESTIGATORS BELEIVE NEGLIGENCE NOT ARSON CAUSED WILDFIRE”

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/investigators-believe-negligence-not-arson-caused-wildfire-in-the-north-1.328668

          can you read THAT you dumb mofo??

      2. 7akibalash Avatar
        7akibalash

        why did you say I sounded Israeli or someone living in Israel? what did I say to make you think that?
        perhaps while you’re thinking up an answer you can take a deep look into yourself and your prejudices.

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          Why would you consider mistaking someone into being an Israeli is prejudice.?
          Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel. It is the typical Israeli propaganda tool.Did you really need this explanation? So giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not Israeli, I have assume the second; A supporter of Israel.
          Now you know that you could not hid it , even if when you try.lol

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        7akibalash

        btw, you will see and time will tell that this is no natural disaster, one fire I could understand, but there was dozens of fires that were started in a vast area some were small and others got big, some they already put out and the main huge one is still blazing.. the fires were intentionally set.. the question is by who?

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        7akibalash

        @ falseprophet, and this is supposed to prove my assessment of you wrong? you are one hatefull piece of scum, there is so much hate in your heart it is enough to poison a whole city. and this is by your admission , thank you for proving me right(in my assessment of your nature) πŸ˜€

        you said: “I agree with you that blowing up a buss in Tel Aviv is a terrorist attack”

        and earlier you said : “Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel.”

        so by your own logic….. you must be an Israeli or a supporter of Israel… case closed you FAILED big time … the sad part is all this probably just went right over your head … let’s hope not though πŸ˜‰
        remove the hate and the prejudice from your heart…. we dont need more prejudiced haters in Lebanon.

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          Is that all you have to say? You could not respond to any of the point I made.
          You are twisting ,and spinning words here.
          I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol

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          7akibalash

          @falseprophet, are you mentally challenged or something? I am being serious or maybe you have ADD, cause ana bi7ki bil shar2 w inti bitrid 3layi bil gharb.
          go back and read all the comments in order so you can see the point that i was talking about all along, I am getting tired of taking a step forward and having you try to make me take 10 steps back… catch up kido πŸ˜€
          the conversation isnt about the atrocities committed by Israel, two wrongs never ever ever make a right.
          is it possible that you can keep a coherent discussion without getting into your hate Israel rant?
          “You are twisting ,and spinning words here.” I only quoted your own words I never added twisted or spun anything. you called me an israeli then you said I must be a supporter of israel because I said it is a terrorist attack on Israel. then i took you through logical steps to show you that your logic is flawed and full of hate and prejudice. I made my point, the case is closed, go cry to your mommy now mental midget.
          oh and by the way, you are the one who has to live with hate in your heart not me… so what do i care who you hate or who you like?
          “I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol”
          awww , what do we do without precious sarcasm? you see what i mean? full of hate.
          Jesus while on the cross said “forgive them for they know not what they do”
          mohamed taught you eye for an eye, so you dont get the whole concept of forgiveness I guess.
          it all makes sense now… but you still must try because it is no way to live with hate in your heart. it is the only words of wisdom I care to share with you.

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        7akibalash

        by the way falseprophet, I chose not to answer your palywood propoganda about Israel because it has nothing to do with what we were talking about. needless to say I heard all that before and upon doing research, it turns out more than 95% of that crap is just that, lies by one side to villify the other and gain world opinion. one day you might open your mind up and do your own truthfull research, not fueled by prejudice and hate … I hope you got the full picture kido.

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          So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred. now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran.
          You can’t answer my questions. You are entitled to your opinions , but not to your fact,as Patrick Moynihan said once.
          I STAND BY WHAT I SAID .

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        7akibalash

        “So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred”
        when did I mention politics? care to quote me?

        “now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran”
        I never changed topics, it is you who is trying to drag me into a conversation about Israel because you are the one who is obsessed not me” btw it’s moron not moran.
        being called a moron by a scumbag prejudice hater is definitely a compliment .. thank you πŸ˜€

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    this is a terroristic attack against Israel, two have been caught in the act of tossing firebombs and arrested they are both Israeli arabs. perhaps more are involved in the attack and we will know alot more in a few days when the fire extinguished.

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      You are right 7akibalash, So you can say anything you want,lol

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        well falseprophet, you can believe what you want too, but the fact remains: 2 arabs have been arrested after areal video footage from an airforce surveillance plane caught them lobbing firebombs in the carmel area, police surrounded and arrested them. I know you dont like the idea that “palestinkians” will do anything to kill Israelis, but this is a reality not a game. it smelled funny to me from the first news report, I mean what are the odds of several fires “naturally” starting at the same time in seperate areas and not even connected to each other? must be foul play, common sense would suggest this, correct? oh and about my nic, I made it after reading all your comments πŸ˜‰

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          oh ya 7akibalash just like the “footage” that “proved” the mavi marmara passengers were all terrorists as claimed by your govt and had no humanitarian aid whatsoever, only for another investigation to later reveal that it had over 20M$ in aid and no weapons except for kitchen knives from the kitchen on the ship lol

          stop your propaganda you loser

          oh btw, for those of you who havent heard, the #1 of hamas apparently said yesterday that hamas is willing to accept a peace settlement with Israel if the majority of palis accept it..this was reported in an israeli newspaper….well at least some progress!

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          @cathy82, what can I say… that you are one brainwashed idiot? ok I wont say that but I will say this to you… I am Lebanese not Israeli you sad excuse of a human being.

          the terrorist aboard mavi marmara were chanting “khaybar khaybar ya yahood jayshu mohamed sawfa ya3oud” you tell me what that was all about? do you know what mohamed and his thugs did to the Jews of khaybar? very peacefull activists onboard that ship indeed!!!! (sarcasm incase you are too stupid to get it too)… but regardless, I was talking about the fires that were purposefully started by individuals who happened to be arabs living in Israel… why dont you read the news sometimes before making an arse out of yourself? even this site is covering it, but they arent saying “arab” they are just saying individuals. I wonder why?

          propoganda eh?? wow coming from a brainwashed idiot like yourself, it almost sounds like a compliment. πŸ˜€

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          @cathy82, what can I say… that you are one brainwashed idiot? ok I wont say that but I will say this to you… I am Lebanese not Israeli you sad excuse of a human being.

          the terrorist aboard mavi marmara were chanting “khaybar khaybar ya yahood jayshu mohamed sawfa ya3oud” you tell me what that was all about? do you know what mohamed and his thugs did to the Jews of khaybar? very peacefull activists onboard that ship indeed!!!! (sarcasm incase you are too stupid to get it too)… but regardless, I was talking about the fires that were purposefully started by individuals who happened to be arabs living in Israel… why dont you read the news sometimes before making an arse out of yourself? even this site is covering it, but they arent saying “arab” they are just saying individuals. I wonder why?

          propoganda eh?? wow coming from a brainwashed idiot like yourself, it almost sounds like a compliment. πŸ˜€

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          7akibalash,
          Israel is always eager to find some one to blame for anything that happens in Israel.Soon you will blame the Arabs for failing to control the fire as well too.
          Trust me we hope that you control this fire soon. No one is happy to see anyone burn in a natural disaster,even if we consider you an enemy. Natural disasters could happen anywhere.

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          7akibalash
          You sounded just like an Israeli or some one living in Israel.
          Either way, You don’t need to get nasty and disrespectful. Stop calling people names and throwing insults.

        6. Arabs caused the extinction of the dinosaurs too HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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          LOOOL @ YOU telling ME to read the news!!!!

          here read HAREETZ you moron the huge headline is that “investigators say negligence NOT arson is behind the wildfire”

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          @cathy82, keep reading, dont stop at the speculations of the police commissioner. and use your brain for once atleast, negligence doesnt start dozens of fires accross the country, terrorists do.

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          ba3den ya 7akibalash, whatever you are, leb or israeli, I meant to say YOUR govt as sarcasm in case you didnt get that which you obviously didnt….

          plus the 2 israeli arabs you’re talking about were DRUZE who are known for being some of the most loyal to Israel, hence why they are allowed to serve in the army, so they werent “terrorists” as you mentionned plus they were released and cleared from charges!!

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          LOL huh? keep reading? man you’re a real moron…keep reading what? so now the haaretz doesnt know what they’re talking about?

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        why did you say I sounded Israeli or someone living in Israel? what did I say to make you think that?
        perhaps while you’re thinking up an answer you can take a deep look into yourself and your prejudices.

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          Why would you consider mistaking someone into being an Israeli is prejudice.?
          Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel. It is the typical Israeli propaganda tool.Did you really need this explanation? So giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not Israeli, I have assume the second; A supporter of Israel.
          Now you know that you could not hid it , even if when you try.lol

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        btw, you will see and time will tell that this is no natural disaster, one fire I could understand, but there was dozens of fires that were started in a vast area some were small and others got big, some they already put out and the main huge one is still blazing.. the fires were intentionally set.. the question is by who?

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          7akibalash
          As Lebanese we have enough to worry about. I COULD CARELESS WHAT HAPPENS IN ISRAEL. You mistook my sympathy to the lose of human lives in a natural disaster , for a total concern to what happens in Israel.
          please leave us alone.lol

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        “Why would you consider mistaking someone into being an Israeli is prejudice.?”

        do you know the meaning of prejudice?

        “Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel.”

        one example of prejudice.

        would you like another?

        anyway, I am meerly stating facts, excuse me if you can not handle the truth. someone who blows up a school bus (one example)is a terrorist, he is doing it not just to kill those on the bus but to spread terror and fear amongst the people.

        in your twisted logic, palestinians can attack israelis any way they want(using terror tactics for one) and they arent responsible for their actions?… you cant be this brainwashed kido!!!

        furthermore, I do not subscribe to your hatred of Israel, Israelis or the Jews or the USA for that matter… now you will call me a traitor I bet, cause according to your twisted logic, one can not be Lebanese and not hate Israel or the Israelis.

        you have a blind hatred in your heart, I understand this. but dont think that everyone must be a lunatic like you and like alot of lunatics in Lebanon who will not let things go, and perpetuate the state of sh*t our country is always in.

        and then in the end blame Israel for all your problems, cause you are perfect and you have no flaws.

        this way of thinking is what plagues our country, our leaders can be talking about agriculture, and somewhere in middle of their speech, they must mention “al 3adouw el Isra2ili”, this is done on a regular basis to confirm to everyone their Lebanese identity… how pathetic and sad of a people who claim to be “azka el nas bil 3alam”.

        our identity as people does not depend on the level of hatred we have for Israel, and how outspoken we are about it.

        you, falseprophet and cathy, and people like you are the problem of Lebanon.

        you leave us the hell alone… we dont need your kind telling us how to feel and what to think, we are smarter and way more educated than you, and we believe in forgiveness not revenge, those are the lebanese I grew up with and grew to love and respect… not your kind, your kind are filthy scum and belong in the trash bins of history.

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          7akibalash
          OK, you want to do this, I’m ready for you, lol
          Do you want to talk about terrorism? Do you want to ethnic cleaning? Do you want to talk about a terrorist state destroying entire villages? Do you want to talk about a terrorist state that uses phosphoric, and uranium tipped weapons against civilians? Do you want to talk about shooting young kids while being held by their parents? Do you want to talk about kicking out hundreds of thousands of people from their homes to make room for Jewish immigrants from Europe?
          Do you want to talk about a state that invades and kills people as a matter of life style? Do you want to talk about a state that imprisons young Palestinians kid for political reasons? Do you want to talk about a state that restricts people from practicing their religion in the west bank and Jerusalem? Do you want to talk about a state that claims that God promises it a piece of land called Palestine? Well, God didn’t tell me that. Did he tell you that?
          Do you want to talk about a state that condones the stealing of human organs from corps of its victims, AND SELLS THEM?
          Now you tell me where you want to start?
          I agree with you that blowing up a buss in Tel Aviv is a terrorist attack, tell me that you agree that Israel is a state that was built with terror, and lives with terror.
          Tell me that you agree that Israel is a racist state. Don’t you?
          Now, what makes you think I HATE THE JEWS? I DON’T HATE JEWS FOR BEING JEWS.
          WHAT MAKES YOUTHINK I HATE AMERICA? I AM A PROUD AMERICAN LEBANESE. MY KIDS ARE AMERICANS.
          I have no hatred toward Jews. I just despise arrogant Israelis who condone murder, and claim to right al the time. I hate people who distort historical facts to justify their own murderous behavior. I hate people who tell me that they are chosen, by God . I had no idea that God was a real estate agent. I had no idea that GOD treats his creatures differently.
          Let’s see, you still want to call me and Cathy; scum bags?
          Get lost ,please

        2. take your zionist propaganda off of here you sell out, you are not stating any facts, you are stating hasbara propaganda

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          LOOL @ 7AKIBALASH ” we are smarter and way more educated than you, and we believe in forgiveness not revenge”

          I love how you think you are above everyone because you beleive in forgiving Israel (whatever the hell that means)

          Listen KIDDO, what dont you go and read up a bit from outside sources other than the ouwwet website. go listen to JEWS not arabs, not muslims, not christians, JEWS talking about how they are sick of not being able to even slightly criticize any of Israel criminal policies and not being called a self hating jew. go read about what ISRAEL human rights organizations say about what the IDF does to innocent young palestinians aged 12 yrs old (the report came out straight from bet’sellem) and how they come to get 12 yr olds in the middle of the night to “interrogate them” all night, which means torture and humuliation.

          WTF do YOU know about what’s going on int he real world if you read nothing but your zionist propaganda?

          You know Norman Finklestein once said, you can choose to live under the shoe of the US AND ISRAEL instead of fighting for your freedom, just like you couldnt wait to welcome condoleeza rice after the 2006 war when they didnt even lift a finger to stop Israel from incurring 1000 casualties, but then he said, dont be surprised when the world has NO RESPECT for you, because you dont respect yourselves. HE SAID I ACTUALLY ADMIRE THE JEWS A LOT MORE in this perspective rather than arabs because the JEWS ‘MOTTO IS: NEVER FORGIVE-NEVER FORGET!!!

          go read about the armenian christians who are being harrassed daily in israel by orthodox jews and cannot go to church, really look it up.

          so if you want to delute yourself into thinking that you’re this avant gardiste who is westernized and cultivated, you go right ahead lol but one piece of advice, before you make a fool out of yourself in front of ACTUALLY educated and cultivated people who are aware of what is going on in the world and read more than one source of news, read up you moron on what the WORLD is saying about Israel, the power of the israeli lobby, i mean HELEN THOMAS for God’s sake who is a lebanese christian and has worked years as a reporter in washignton, said the truth about the israeli lobby in washington and she should know what the heck she’s talking about, she was right in there!

          many many americans are waking up and blogging and calling in on radio shows about how they refuse to pay taxes to bail out and help an apartheid state like Israel.

          oh and by the way 7AKIBALASH, I am not for the detsruction of Israel actually, I beleive it exists and we shall live with it BUT only if it goes back to its pre-1967 borders and stop expanding and throwing inncoent palestinians out of their homes (including christian palestinians) to build illegal settlements in which the most ultra orthodox jews live (btw, those dont even look you in the eye if you are a gentile cos you are satan to them) AND if it allows palestinian refugees in lebanon and other countries the right to return to their homes.

          God i cant stand morons like you who are so f****n delusional and they think they know everything when they are as ignorant as Jessica simpson about world matters.

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          LOOL @ 7AKIBALASH ” we are smarter and way more educated than you, and we believe in forgiveness not revenge”

          I love how you think you are above everyone because you beleive in forgiving Israel (whatever the hell that means)

          Listen KIDDO, what dont you go and read up a bit from outside sources other than the ouwwet website. go listen to JEWS not arabs, not muslims, not christians, JEWS talking about how they are sick of not being able to even slightly criticize any of Israel criminal policies and not being called a self hating jew. go read about what ISRAEL human rights organizations say about what the IDF does to innocent young palestinians aged 12 yrs old (the report came out straight from bet’sellem) and how they come to get 12 yr olds in the middle of the night to “interrogate them” all night, which means torture and humuliation.

          WTF do YOU know about what’s going on int he real world if you read nothing but your zionist propaganda?

          You know Norman Finklestein once said, you can choose to live under the shoe of the US AND ISRAEL instead of fighting for your freedom, just like you couldnt wait to welcome condoleeza rice after the 2006 war when they didnt even lift a finger to stop Israel from incurring 1000 casualties, but then he said, dont be surprised when the world has NO RESPECT for you, because you dont respect yourselves. HE SAID I ACTUALLY ADMIRE THE JEWS A LOT MORE in this perspective rather than arabs because the JEWS ‘MOTTO IS: NEVER FORGIVE-NEVER FORGET!!!

          go read about the armenian christians who are being harrassed daily in israel by orthodox jews and cannot go to church, really look it up.

          so if you want to delute yourself into thinking that you’re this avant gardiste who is westernized and cultivated, you go right ahead lol but one piece of advice, before you make a fool out of yourself in front of ACTUALLY educated and cultivated people who are aware of what is going on in the world and read more than one source of news, read up you moron on what the WORLD is saying about Israel, the power of the israeli lobby, i mean HELEN THOMAS for God’s sake who is a lebanese christian and has worked years as a reporter in washignton, said the truth about the israeli lobby in washington and she should know what the heck she’s talking about, she was right in there!

          many many americans are waking up and blogging and calling in on radio shows about how they refuse to pay taxes to bail out and help an apartheid state like Israel.

          oh and by the way 7AKIBALASH, I am not for the detsruction of Israel actually, I beleive it exists and we shall live with it BUT only if it goes back to its pre-1967 borders and stop expanding and throwing inncoent palestinians out of their homes (including christian palestinians) to build illegal settlements in which the most ultra orthodox jews live (btw, those dont even look you in the eye if you are a gentile cos you are satan to them) AND if it allows palestinian refugees in lebanon and other countries the right to return to their homes.

          God i cant stand morons like you who are so f****n delusional and they think they know everything when they are as ignorant as Jessica simpson about world matters.

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        @ falseprophet, and this is supposed to prove my assessment of you wrong? you are one hatefull piece of scum, there is so much hate in your heart it is enough to poison a whole city. and this is by your admission , thank you for proving me right(in my assessment of your nature) πŸ˜€

        you said: “I agree with you that blowing up a buss in Tel Aviv is a terrorist attack”

        and earlier you said : “Only an Israeli,or a supporter of Israel, would use the word ‘terrorist ‘ when it comes to anything taking place in Israel.”

        so by your own logic….. you must be an Israeli or a supporter of Israel… case closed you FAILED big time … the sad part is all this probably just went right over your head … let’s hope not though πŸ˜‰

        remove the hate and the prejudice from your heart…. we dont need more prejudiced haters in Lebanon.

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          Is that all you have to say? You could not respond to any of the point I made.
          You are twisting ,and spinning words here.
          I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol

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          @falseprophet, are you mentally challenged or something? I am being serious or maybe you have ADD, cause ana bi7ki bil shar2 w inti bitrid 3layi bil gharb.

          go back and read all the comments in order so you can see the point that i was talking about all along, I am getting tired of taking a step forward and having you try to make me take 10 steps back… catch up kido πŸ˜€

          the conversation isnt about the atrocities committed by Israel, two wrongs never ever ever make a right.

          is it possible that you can keep a coherent discussion without getting into your hate Israel rant?

          “You are twisting ,and spinning words here.” I only quoted your own words I never added twisted or spun anything. you called me an israeli then you said I must be a supporter of israel because I said it is a terrorist attack on Israel. then i took you through logical steps to show you that your logic is flawed and full of hate and prejudice. I made my point, the case is closed, go cry to your mommy now mental midget.

          oh and by the way, you are the one who has to live with hate in your heart not me… so what do i care who you hate or who you like?

          “I’l tell you what;I will make a deal with you. I love Israelis as much as they love Arabs, I love Israelis as much as they love Muslims, I love Israelis as much as they love Christians.Does that satisfy you? I’ll be a nice guy and add a notch on top as well to love them a little more.lol”

          awww , what do we do without precious sarcasm? you see what i mean? full of hate.

          Jesus while on the cross said “forgive them for they know not what they do”

          mohamed taught you eye for an eye, so you dont get the whole concept of forgiveness I guess.

          it all makes sense now… but you still must try because it is no way to live with hate in your heart. it is the only words of wisdom I care to share with you.

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        by the way falseprophet, I chose not to answer your palywood propoganda about Israel because it has nothing to do with what we were talking about. needless to say I heard all that before and upon doing research, it turns out more than 95% of that crap is just that, lies by one side to villify the other and gain world opinion. one day you might open your mind up and do your own truthfull research, not fueled by prejudice and hate … I hope you got the full picture kido.

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          So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred. now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran.
          You can’t answer my questions. You are entitled to your opinions , but not to your fact,as Patrick Moynihan said once.
          I STAND BY WHAT I SAID .

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        “So you pick and choose. You started talking talking the fire,and you moved on to politics and hatred”

        when did I mention politics? care to quote me?

        “now you pick what I should talk about . you are such a Moran”

        I never changed topics, it is you who is trying to drag me into a conversation about Israel because you are the one who is obsessed not me” btw it’s moron not moran.

        being called a moron by a scumbag prejudice hater is definitely a compliment .. thank you πŸ˜€

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    Hannibal,In another document released document( dated June 2,2009), Eihud Barak , estimated that the window of opportunity to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is 6 to 18 months.This is what the document says:”Barak estimated a window between 6 and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable. After that, he said, any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage. He also expressed concern that should Iran develop nuclear capabilities, other rogue states and/or terrorist groups would not be far behind.What do you make of this? the18 months have passed.for a complete text, go to the Guardian.uk

  6. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Hannibal,In another document released document( dated June 2,2009), Eihud Barak , estimated that the window of opportunity to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is 6 to 18 months.This is what the document says:”Barak estimated a window between 6 and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable. After that, he said, any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage. He also expressed concern that should Iran develop nuclear capabilities, other rogue states and/or terrorist groups would not be far behind.What do you make of this? the18 months have passed.for a complete text, go to the Guardian.uk

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    7akibalash

    @ cathy82, please do your self a favor and go look up the meaning of terrorist, and terroristic attack. someone’s nationality or religion(as long as the religion isnt calling for terroristic acts) does not determine if that person is a terrorist or not, it is their actions that do.
    using terror as a tactic is what terrorists do.
    so for instance, let’s say it was a group of Jewish Israelis who started those fires(hypothetically speaking), then they are terrorists because they didnt start the fire just to watch it burn but to terrorize people and put fear in their hearts.
    if they are druze, then they are terrorists
    if they are muslims, then they are terrorists
    if they are christians, then they are terrorists
    if they are hindu, then they are not terrorists … lol just kidding
    get my point yet?

    so your statement earlier was just plain stupid. ”

    1. wlek ya hmar i know what terrorists mean, that wasnt my point you uneducated moron.
      it was to say that by the way you were talking, it seems you assumed it was palestinian muslims, the regular suspects of such actions, were behind this but I just was clarifying that it was druze which mostly do not harbor anti-israel sentiment as other palestinians or israeli arabs do from other sects…. PLUS they were released because they had NO RELATIONS TO THE FIRE.

      nevermind, I have 2 bachelors, one masters and im wasting my time with you who is delusional about his own IQ and education level…

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        7akibalash

        hahahah 2 bachelors and a masters, and you’re still this stupid? go ask for your money back, you got ripped off πŸ˜€

        1. ok ive been trying to post my comment 3 times and it says it needs to be approved so ill keep as clean as i can

          you are the biggest moron ive ever spoken to in my life. your reasoning is based on your hatred of anything that isnt lebanese christian or jewish, typical ouwweti.

          i think you were reading the wrong article because the one I read TO THE END did not mention any speculation of any form, it was the police commisionner who is in charge on the INVESTIGATION who made that statement. and they were RIGHT.
          and you were WRONG.

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/14-year-old-admits-to-accidentally-starting-carmel-fire-1.329203

          oh thats your answer to my degrees? lol i pity you so much… full of hatred, probably an ugly mofo who still lives with his mommy and daddy and has been dating his right hand for the past 40 years…

        2. ok ive been trying to post my comment 3 times and it says it needs to be approved so ill keep as clean as i can

          you are the biggest moron ive ever spoken to in my life. your reasoning is based on your hatred of anything that isnt lebanese christian or jewish, typical ouwweti.

          i think you were reading the wrong article because the one I read TO THE END did not mention any speculation of any form, it was the police commisionner who is in charge on the INVESTIGATION who made that statement. and they were RIGHT.
          and you were WRONG.

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/14-year-old-admits-to-accidentally-starting-carmel-fire-1.329203

          oh thats your answer to my degrees? lol i pity you so much… full of hatred, probably an ugly mofo who still lives with his mommy and daddy and has been dating his right hand for the past 40 years…

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    @ cathy82, please do your self a favor and go look up the meaning of terrorist, and terroristic attack. someone’s nationality or religion(as long as the religion isnt calling for terroristic acts) does not determine if that person is a terrorist or not, it is their actions that do.

    using terror as a tactic is what terrorists do.

    so for instance, let’s say it was a group of Jewish Israelis who started those fires(hypothetically speaking), then they are terrorists because they didnt start the fire just to watch it burn but to terrorize people and put fear in their hearts.

    if they are druze, then they are terrorists

    if they are muslims, then they are terrorists

    if they are christians, then they are terrorists

    if they are hindu, then they are not terrorists … lol just kidding

    get my point yet?

    so your statement earlier was just plain stupid. ”

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      wlek ya hmar i know what terrorists mean, that wasnt my point you uneducated moron.

      it was to say that by the way you were talking, it seems you assumed it was palestinian muslims, the regular suspects of such actions, were behind this but I just was clarifying that it was druze which mostly do not harbor anti-israel sentiment as other palestinians or israeli arabs do from other sects….

      nevermind, I have 2 bachelors, one masters and im wasting my time with you who is delusional about his own IQ and education level…

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        hahahah 2 bachelors and a masters, and you’re still this stupid? go ask for your money back, you got ripped off πŸ˜€

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          ok ive been trying to post my comment 3 times and it says it needs to be approved so ill keep as clean as i can

          you are the biggest moron ive ever spoken to in my life. your reasoning is based on your hatred of anything that isnt lebanese christian or jewish, typical ouwweti.

          i think you were reading the wrong article because the one I read TO THE END did not mention any speculation of any form, it was the police commisionner who is in charge on the INVESTIGATION who made that statement. and they were RIGHT.

          and you were WRONG.

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/14-year-old-admits-to-accidentally-starting-carmel-fire-1.329203

          oh thats your answer to my degrees? lol i pity you so much… full of hatred, probably an ugly mofo who still lives with his mommy and daddy and has been dating his right hand for the past 40 years…

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        hahahah 2 bachelors and a masters, and you’re still this stupid? go ask for your money back, you got ripped off πŸ˜€

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    7akibalash

    @cathy82 I posted by mistake before adding your statement, here it is:
    “plus the 2 israeli arabs you’re talking about were DRUZE who are known for being some of the most loyal to Israel, hence why they are allowed to serve in the army, so they werent “terrorists” as you mentionned…”

    your deduction is so flawed it is really sad, and it reflects on the low level of education I suspect you have.

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    7akibalash

    @cathy82 I posted by mistake before adding your statement, here it is:
    “plus the 2 israeli arabs you’re talking about were DRUZE who are known for being some of the most loyal to Israel, hence why they are allowed to serve in the army, so they werent “terrorists” as you mentionned…”

    your deduction is so flawed it is really sad, and it reflects on the low level of education I suspect you have.

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    @cathy82 I posted by mistake before adding your statement, here it is:

    “plus the 2 israeli arabs you’re talking about were DRUZE who are known for being some of the most loyal to Israel, hence why they are allowed to serve in the army, so they werent “terrorists” as you mentionned…”

    your deduction is so flawed it is really sad, and it reflects on the low level of education I suspect you have.

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    7akibalash

    @cathy82, keep reading the article you dummy, whatelse? you read a speculation by the police commissioner and took it as a final fact when it was just a speculation backed up by no evidence.. actually the evidence points in the other direction multiple fires started simultaneously, yeah sounds like a natural thing, it happens everyday here…. sheeesh better yet forget about reading the article, just go get your GED you are in dire need of it.

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    @cathy82, keep reading the article you dummy, whatelse? you read a speculation by the police commissioner and took it as a final fact when it was just a speculation backed up by no evidence.. actually the evidence points in the other direction multiple fires started simultaneously, yeah sounds like a natural thing, it happens everyday here…. sheeesh better yet forget about reading the article, just go get your GED you are in dire need of it.

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