Afghan Shiites fear losing their gains once US/allies leave

For the past week, the Afghan capital has been draped with black cloth arches and festooned with huge colored banners. Mournful, pounding chants pour from loudspeakers across the city, filling the air with slow martial intensity.<

The dramatic display is all part of Muharram, the 10-day Shiite festival that commemorates the slaying of Imam Hussein, a 7th-century holy figure and early champion of Islam. But it is also a symbol of the growing religious and political freedom that Afghanistan’s long-ostracized Shiites have had in the past decade.

Now, as Western military forces prepare to leave the country by 2014, Afghan Shiites, most of whom are from the Hazara ethnic minority, fear that their window of opportunity may slam shut again, leaving larger rival ethnic groups as well as Taliban insurgents, who are radical Sunni Muslims, dominating power.

“Everything we have achieved, our ability to come out and participate in society, has been in the shade of the international community and forces,” said Mohammed Alizada, a Hazara Shiite who was elected to parliament in 2009. “We are very concerned that once they leave, the fundamentalists will reemerge, ethnic issues will return, and we will lose what we have gained.”

There are more immediate fears, as well. Sectarian violence, historically absent from Afghan society, has been intensifying in next-door Pakistan and spilling across the border. During last year’s Muharram festival, two Shiite shrines in Kabul and the northern city of Mazar-e Sharif were bombed, killing more than 80 people. Shiite leaders say the Kabul attack was carried out by Lashkar-i-Jhangvi, an outlawed Sunni militant group based in Pakistan.

Tensions increased palpably in Kabul on Saturday, the climactic 10th day of Muharrram known as Ashura, when groups of young men beat their chests and whip themselves with chains and knives in penance for the death of Hussein, a grandson of Prophet Muhammad.

No terrorist attacks were reported, and Afghan officials attended Muharram ceremonies under heavy security. But at Kabul University, clashes erupted between groups of students after an Ashura ceremony in a dormitory. Police reported that dozens were wounded and at least 30 arrested. One student was killed.

Afghan Sunnis, who make up about 80 percent of the populace, generally tolerate Shiites and observe Muharram in a quieter way, praying and giving charity to the poor. At other times of year, Afghans of all backgrounds flock to majestic Shiite shrines to meditate, feed pigeons or celebrate the Persian new year in the spring.

In West Kabul, the heart of the Hazara community, a heady, almost frenzied atmosphere has been growing all week. But this year, the arches and banners and chants have reached farther than ever across the city, arousing new resentment from the Sunni populace.

The hostility also stems from another concern: the widespread belief that Iran, Afghanistan’s Shiite neighbor to the west, is promoting Shiism and bolstering Hazara leadership as a way to gain cultural and political influence.

 

Washington Post

 

  • wargame1

    During Afghan invasion Iran encouraged its allies the Northern alliance to fight alongside the US invading pigs plus 70+ countries and within weeks the Taliban collapsed!! Iran’s ex vice president Muhammad Ali Abtahi said: “This was Iran’s first major effort to help the United States to topple the Taliban in Afghanistan and AlQaeda, this would have been impossible without Iran’s help ” 

    Iranian Ex President Muhammad Khatami said: “The Taliban was our enemy , America thought Taliban was their enemy too! If they toppled the Taliban it would serve the interest of Iran”  After installing the pro Iranian puppet ruler in Afghanistan Iran was the first to visit Afghanistan and give legitimacy , President Ahmadnejad went to meet puppet Hamid Karzai gave him a hug and surprisingly US defense secretary Robert gates was also in Kabul in a official visit at the same time!! 

    Then the Satanic alliance targets Iraq !!This time Iranian Ex president Muhammad Khatami said, ” I told him, Lets repeat Afghanistan experience in Iraq!” Siding with the enemies of Islam is an “experience” to them. Now can you guess who is the first to visit Iraqi puppet government and give it legitimacy ?? Same old Irani president Ahmadinejad!! 

    During these invasion Iranian Alquds force ,Bodor brigade,mehdi Army actively helped the coalition force in both Iraq and in Afghanistan and this is still continuining to this day. This is the very reason USA ,UN and Europe cant let Bashar fall.  But alas!! after more than ten yeas of war the Taliban are now controlling most of Afghanistan.

    The collaborator always loose in the end. The Russian collaborator Nozibullah were hanged after the mujaheddin kicked out the Russians so what can you expect when the Americans leave?  Many of these stooge will flee to Iran. But this time the Taliban will attack Iran.

    ancient hindu prayer: “Oh Lord Shiva, save us from the claw of the tiger, the fang of the cobra and the vengeance of the Afghan”

    • Moe28

      All the troops and bases that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan where in the 23 Wahhabi Salafist monkey kings bases where 200,000 nato troops are stationed.

  • wargame1

    During Afghan invasion Iran encouraged its allies the Northern alliance to fight alongside the US invading pigs plus 70+ countries and within weeks the Taliban collapsed!! Iran’s ex vice president Muhammad Ali Abtahi said: “This was Iran’s first major effort to help the United States to topple the Taliban in Afghanistan and AlQaeda, this would have been impossible without Iran’s help ” 

    Iranian Ex President Muhammad Khatami said: “The Taliban was our enemy , America thought Taliban was their enemy too! If they toppled the Taliban it would serve the interest of Iran”  After installing the pro Iranian puppet ruler in Afghanistan Iran was the first to visit Afghanistan and give legitimacy , President Ahmadnejad went to meet puppet Hamid Karzai gave him a hug and surprisingly US defense secretary Robert gates was also in Kabul in a official visit at the same time!! 

    Then the Satanic alliance targets Iraq !!This time Iranian Ex president Muhammad Khatami said, ” I told him, Lets repeat Afghanistan experience in Iraq!” Siding with the enemies of Islam is an “experience” to them. Now can you guess who is the first to visit Iraqi puppet government and give it legitimacy ?? Same old Irani president Ahmadinejad!! 

    During these invasion Iranian Alquds force ,Bodor brigade,mehdi Army actively helped the coalition force in both Iraq and in Afghanistan and this is still continuining to this day. This is the very reason USA ,UN and Europe cant let Bashar fall.  But alas!! after more than ten yeas of war the Taliban are now controlling most of Afghanistan.

    The collaborator always loose in the end. The Russian collaborator Nozibullah were hanged after the mujaheddin kicked out the Russians so what can you expect when the Americans leave?  Many of these stooge will flee to Iran. But this time the Taliban will attack Iran.

    ancient hindu saying : “Oh Lord Shiva, save us from the claw of the tiger, the fang of the cobra and the vengeance of the Afghan

    • Moe28

       All the troops and bases that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan where in the 23 Wahhabi Salafist monkey kings gulf bases where 200,000 nato troops are stationed.

  • wargame1

    production of the class-A drug by Afghan farmers rose between 2001 and 2011 from just 185 tons to a staggering 5,800 tons. Afghan Shia northern alliance will loose a lot of money from this illicit trade. The stock Market will get a hard hit when the Afghan heroin production will reverse back to less than 100 tons or even zero tons because every year more than 200 billion US dollar are injected in to the US stock market which directly comes from this drug trade.
    Beside the oil and gas pipeline the Afghan poppy was one of the reasons for the invading pigs in the name of war on terra and war on(for) drugs and freeing the Afghan woman.

    Afghan puppet Government of NATO/USA are composed of Tajiks and Uzbeks from the north, some Shia Hazaras, and some rogue Pashtun and mercenary groups and on top there are Iranian mehdi Army ,Bodor brigade and al quds force. Ethnic Tajiks and Uzbeks served the Soviets when they occupied Afghanistan as well as the puppet Afghan Communist Party. Today like those old days Tajiks and Uzbeks form the core of government armed forces and secret police. They are the blood enemies of the majority Pashtun i.e. Taliban and its allies in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan.

    The sunnis in Afghanistan are 85% and America and its Allie chose puppets from the minority against the will of the majority. The oil thieves call it democracy when they back up their chosen crooks in order to steal resources. Hamid Karzai and a special envoy to Bush mr. Zalami Khalilzad used to work for the UNOCAL oil and gas exploration company. Now the moment of truth is approaching for Afghan style freedom and democracy 

    • Mahdi Kenaani

      goeh azafeh nakhor! Boro gomsho divooneh!

      • Hannibal

        kosesher…

    • Btru2u

      Shia have made the west their allies

      • Moe28

         Yea that’s why the Wahhabi Gulf have 23 American bases in their country’s and 200,000 American/Nato troops that where used to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.

        • Btru2u

          And I heard my Shia friends cheering as the Americans toppled Saddam , and the northern Allance and Iran united with the west to cause another Sunni holocaust. My friend, we Sunnis are rising because we do not support the our traiter leaders and we are yearning for a true muslim khilafah. It is unfortunate that my Shia friends are supporting the murder of my brothers and sisters, and they are filled with rage and hate against us. Whatever your reasons, your action does not make you better than us. Isnt it time the Shia also reject their leaders and start focusing on our common values. Or will you continue your rude and hatefully behaviour.

      • Moe28

         I am really starting to gain a passion of hate for low IQ Wahhabi morons.

    • Moe28

       Karzai is Sunni, Peanut brain.

      • Mahdi Kenaani

        are you and moe2000 the same person? did the admin ban you?

    • Moe28

       Karzai at the Munich Conference on Security Policy (2009)

      President of Afghanistan

      Incumbent

      Assumed office

      7 December 2004

      Acting: 22 December 2001 – 7 December 2004

      Vice President
      Ahmad Zia Massoud

      Mohammed Fahim

      Preceded by
      Burhanuddin Rabbani

      Personal details

      Born
      24 December 1957 (age 54)

      Kandahar, Afghanistan

      Political party
      Independent

      Spouse(s)
      Zeenat Quraishi (1999–present)

      Children
      Mirwais

      Alma mater
      Himachal Pradesh University

      Religion
      Sunni Islam

  • wargame1

    production of the class-A drug by Afghan farmers rose between 2001 and 2011 from just 185 tons to a staggering 5,800 tons. Afghan Shia northern alliance will loose a lot of money from this illicit trade. The stock Market will get a hard hit when the Afghan heroin production will reverse back to less than 100 tons or even zero tons because every year more than 200 billion US dollar are injected in to the US stock market which directly comes from this drug trade.
    Beside the oil and gas pipeline the Afghan poppy was one of the reasons for the invading pigs in the name of war on terra and war on(for) drugs and freeing the Afghan woman.

    Afghan puppet Government of NATO/USA are composed of Tajiks and Uzbeks from the north, some Shia Hazaras, and some rogue Pashtun and mercenary groups and on top there are Iranian mehdi Army ,Bodor brigade and al quds force. Ethnic Tajiks and Uzbeks served the Soviets when they occupied Afghanistan as well as the puppet Afghan Communist Party. Today like those old days Tajiks and Uzbeks form the core of government armed forces and secret police. They are the blood enemies of the majority Pashtun i.e. Taliban and its allies in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan.

    The sunnis in Afghanistan are 85% and America and its Allie chose puppets from the minority against the will of the majority. The oil thieves call it democracy when they back up their chosen crooks in order to steal resources. Hamid Karzai and a special envoy to Bush mr. Zalami Khalilzad used to work for the UNOCAL oil and gas exploration company. Now the moment of truth is approaching for Afghan style freedom and democracy 

    • Mahdi Kenaani

      goeh azafeh nakhor! Boro gomsho divooneh!

      • Hannibal

        kosesher…

    • Btru2u

      Shia have made the west their allies

      • Moe28

         Yea that’s why the Wahhabi Gulf have 23 American bases in their country’s and 200,000 American/Nato troops that where used to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.

        • Btru2u

          And I heard my Shia friends cheering as the Americans toppled Saddam , and the northern Allance and Iran united with the west to cause another Sunni holocaust. My friend, we Sunnis are rising because we do not support the our traiter leaders and we are yearning for a true muslim khilafah. It is unfortunate that my Shia friends are supporting the murder of my brothers and sisters, and they are filled with rage and hate against us. Whatever your reasons, your action does not make you better than us. Isnt it time the Shia also reject their leaders and start focusing on our common values. Or will you continue your rude and hatefully behaviour.

      • Moe28

         I am really starting to gain a passion of hate for low IQ Wahhabi morons.

    • Moe28

       Karzai is Sunni, Peanut brain.

      • Mahdi Kenaani

        are you and moe2000 the same person? did the admin ban you?

    • Moe28

       Karzai at the Munich Conference on Security Policy (2009)

      President of Afghanistan

      Incumbent

      Assumed office

      7 December 2004

      Acting: 22 December 2001 – 7 December 2004

      Vice President
      Ahmad Zia Massoud

      Mohammed Fahim

      Preceded by
      Burhanuddin Rabbani

      Personal details

      Born
      24 December 1957 (age 54)

      Kandahar, Afghanistan

      Political party
      Independent

      Spouse(s)
      Zeenat Quraishi (1999–present)

      Children
      Mirwais

      Alma mater
      Himachal Pradesh University

      Religion
      Sunni Islam

  • Mahdi Kenaani

    the world is suffering from a cancer called falafelism!  kheili najese ha!

  • Mahdi Kenaani

    the world is suffering from a cancer called falafelism!  kheili najese ha!

  • Hannibal

    More Ninja fighters… I still think Islam originated in Japan…

    • MekensehParty

      careful Hannibal, they’ll protest and burn the internet for such words

  • Hannibal

    More Ninja fighters… I still think Islam originated in Japan…

    • MekensehParty

      careful Hannibal, they’ll protest and burn the internet for such words