Franjieh slams Suleiman’s stance on Samaha

During an interview with Hezbollah’s al Manar TV, MP Suleiman Franjieh slammed President Michel Suleiman’s position on the issue of the arrest former minister Michel Samaha, calling it ‘extreme’ and said he is betting on the survival of the Syrian regime

“The president should have congratulated ( Internal Security Forces intelligence chief Maj. Gen.) Wissam al-Hassan and ( Internal Security Forces chief) Ashraf Rifi and awaited the results of the investigation instead of launching accusations,” Franjieh said.

Following the discovery of the explosives that were transported from Syria by former Minister Michel Samaha , Suleiman congratulated the Internal Security forces and announced that he is waiting for a phone call from President Assad about Syrian General Ali Mamlouk’s alleged participation in a terrorist plot with Samaha.

Commenting on the assassination of Hassan he said one should not ask who killed Hassan but rather who “betrayed” him.

“We must not ask who killed Hassan but rather who betrayed Hassan, and usually those who betray are the allies,” said Franjieh.

He added: Imad Mughniyeh was 1500 times more important than Hassan, why don’t they acknowledge he was also a martyr.

He is referring to the Hezbollah commander who was assassinated in Damascus on 12 February 2008.

Franjieh accused the opposition March 14 camp of taking advantage of Hassan’s assassination in order to topple Prime Minister Najib Mikati’s government.

“Blaming Mikati for Hassan’s blood is an excuse to seize the premiership,” Franjieh charged, adding that Hassan was a lot closer to Mikati than he was to former Pm Saad Hariri.

In response to a question, Franjieh said: “If Hassan had a role in sabotaging Syria, that means that Syria has the motive to assassinate him, but I don’t believe that it had anything to do with the operation.”

“March 14 are hinting that Hassan was a friend of Israel and an enemy of Syria by refusing to accuse Israel of the assassination,” he added.

Wissam Al-Hassan was killed on October 19 in a car bomb explosion attack in the Beirut district of Ashrafiyeh.

Syria was accused of being behind the assassination. Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea accused Hezbollah of executing the crime under orders from Iran and Syria.

Commenting on the situation in Syria, Franjieh who is a stanch ally of the Syrian regime said that he strongly believes in the principals of Syrian president Bashar al Assad and that his friendship with him remains strong and that he called him two days ago . Franjieh concluded that Syria is in a difficult situation but he is betting on the survival of the Syrian regime.

  • PeaceintheME

    Suleiman Franjieh, One of the few honest men left in Lebanon.  

    • tayyyar10452

      indeed & i do not think anyone can argue his nationalism; certainly not this criminal geagea

    • nagy_michael2

      Honest my arzz. His gangs terrorized people in Koura and the north during the civil war and still do. One of his man killed a friend of mine over not getting enough commission and ran to Dahia. Then I am sure to syria.. the guy has not shame in following Assad instead of Lebanon. How dare he say we need to find the allies who betrayed Hassan instead of finding the killers? what does that mean? how dare he protect Samaha for attempting to cause strife in Lebanon and divide lebanese..what is so honest and honorable about that.. I bet he was not honest to you when his family were allied with the Kataab during the civil war..What’s so honest about a terrorist i just don’t get it..

      • tayyyyar10452

        your ass does not seem to be a valuable asset to you; shou trabolsi al zahir

        • nagy_michael2

          Yes I am glad its not valuable to Hezbollah otherwise they will blow me into pieces like they did to many innocent lebanese. I am from the north not from Syrian Dahia.. I am a true Lebanese unlike you I do not support anybody outside of Lebanon. I do not care about M14 Beliefs or anyone else if they don’t believe in Lebanon and respect its integrity and properties and not use it to satisfy my Iranians masters and please bashar whenever he wants to blow up a Lebanese because they’re not on his side. Please do not bother bringing Geagea or Saudi… I am all against anyone who bring outside interference period. Besides Geagea and M14 do not go around and kill people because they’re not following them like sheeps. you keep ignoring the true lebanese and your days will come like it did to Bashar. he might be still strong but he is weakened each and every day from a small army of freedom fighters who are fighting him with AK47. he is so weak that he had to rely on Iran and hezbollah gangs to help him. Otherwise he would have fallen apart few months ago. Your arrogance will not last because stupitdy is dripping from you and all of the followers of M8 or shall i say the waliat Al faqih rules. Yes you are whether you want to admit it or not.. yes you are killers of wissam and harrii and 8 innocent people who died with Al Hassan and many injured. yet you have the audacity to pass candy in celebration of the dead. How dare you call yourselves lebanese. Shame on you and shame on the parents that raised traitors like you and your clown baba orange gannouge Nasshrallah.

      • tayyyyar10452

        let me ask you two questions: what is your stance to the palestinian cause? and what was your stance towards al mourabitoun? hassan nasrallah was not indicted in any crime; geagea was; you are siding against bashar, thus this denies your impartiality towards external affairs and denudes you of pure lebanese motivations; whereas i say i support bashar not for syria nor for bashar but for Lebanon; you are just a cheap saoudi imbecile agent btiswa rob3 lira bi iyyemet al ghala

        • nagy_michael2

          I am for the palestinian people but not their crappy leadership. they dragged me into hell and still are.. they deserve better and should be treated with dignity and respect. their leaders should been executed those who dragged lebanon into civil war. Geagea served time compare to any wartime lord.. what did walid serve after inciting his militia to kill 200 christians after the death of his father.. what did Aoun get after turning his troops on Lebanese instead of Syrian? what did Aoun do for the jailed Army in Syria.. he gave up on them.. I do not support Geagea period and could careless about anyone involved in the war. All I am saying that M14 is not going around killing people like M8. You guys keep distracting from the real issues at hand. The killing machine that you’re protecting and trying to keep going round and round with others issues. I do not care about Bashar and just because he is not extermists muslim that didn’t stop him from butchering christians in Lebanon and that mostly goes to his father of course. The christians in Syria I was told were dancing in the streets and shooting in the air after Bashir Gemyal. These people either stupid or were scared. The christians yes were not harmed as much as sunnis but that doesn’t mean Bashar cared about them and they’re minority and he needed them. But Hafez Assad killed Alwaites who were critical of him. people were and still scared of them period. Hassan Nassrallah may not have proof of him killing anyone personally. But are you telling me he didn’t order killing Pierre Gemyal, Gibran, Walid eido, Ghanem and hariri and many more innocent lebanese? doesn’t have lebanese blood on his hand? I never heard Bashir Gemyal killed anyone..so why are you guys condeming him then? we’re talking now and Franjieh is still a thug and acting like one and proud of it. forget the war its useless putting those leaders in jail and let’s be realistic you can’t. We’re talking since hariri and many innocent that went down with him and after him. where is the justice for them? why everytime we ask for communications data the gov’t/isf is being denied.. what are you hiding? all crimes  proofs lead to Dahia, Syria and iran. stop saying its israel and amerinca projects. Enough insults on top of insulting the dead. its like you’re killing them twice. enough said. you just trying to frustrate me like all M8 love to do.. All i can say again and again the more frustration and killing you keep doing the more anger will turn into mob killings of M8 and their dirt followers scum liking earth warms.

    • rossoferrari

      One can be honest with what he knows and learned. Unfortunately for an illiterate he does not qualify. May be herding is a better area for him to delve into.

      • tayyyyar10452

        wow; you are attacking our moufti the 5th ; she brags her analphabetism

  • PeaceintheME

    Suleiman Franjieh, One of the few honest men left in Lebanon.  

    • tayyyar10452

      indeed & i do not think anyone can argue his nationalism; certainly not this criminal geagea

    • nagy_michael2

      Honest my arzz. His gangs terrorized people in Koura and the north during the civil war and still do. One of his man killed a friend of mine over not getting enough commission and ran to Dahia. Then I am sure to syria.. the guy has not shame in following Assad instead of Lebanon. How dare he say we need to find the allies who betrayed Hassan instead of finding the killers? what does that mean? how dare he protect Samaha for attempting to cause strife in Lebanon and divide lebanese..what is so honest and honorable about that.. I bet he was not honest to you when his family were allied with the Kataab during the civil war..What’s so honest about a terrorist i just don’t get it..

      • tayyyyar10452

        your ass does not seem to be a valuable asset to you; shou trabolsi al zahir

        • nagy_michael2

          Yes I am glad its not valuable to Hezbollah otherwise they will blow me into pieces like they did to many innocent lebanese. I am from the north not from Syrian Dahia.. I am a true Lebanese unlike you I do not support anybody outside of Lebanon. I do not care about M14 Beliefs or anyone else if they don’t believe in Lebanon and respect its integrity and properties and not use it to satisfy my Iranians masters and please bashar whenever he wants to blow up a Lebanese because they’re not on his side. Please do not bother bringing Geagea or Saudi… I am all against anyone who bring outside interference period. Besides Geagea and M14 do not go around and kill people because they’re not following them like sheeps. you keep ignoring the true lebanese and your days will come like it did to Bashar. he might be still strong but he is weakened each and every day from a small army of freedom fighters who are fighting him with AK47. he is so weak that he had to rely on Iran and hezbollah gangs to help him. Otherwise he would have fallen apart few months ago. Your arrogance will not last because stupitdy is dripping from you and all of the followers of M8 or shall i say the waliat Al faqih rules. Yes you are whether you want to admit it or not.. yes you are killers of wissam and harrii and 8 innocent people who died with Al Hassan and many injured. yet you have the audacity to pass candy in celebration of the dead. How dare you call yourselves lebanese. Shame on you and shame on the parents that raised traitors like you and your clown baba orange gannouge Nasshrallah.

      • tayyyyar10452

        let me ask you two questions: what is your stance to the palestinian cause? and what was your stance towards al mourabitoun? hassan nasrallah was not indicted in any crime; geagea was; you are siding against bashar, thus this denies your impartiality towards external affairs and denudes you of pure lebanese motivations; whereas i say i support bashar not for syria nor for bashar but for Lebanon; you are just a cheap saoudi imbecile agent btiswa rob3 lira bi iyyemet al ghala

        • nagy_michael2

          I am for the palestinian people but not their crappy leadership. they dragged me into hell and still are.. they deserve better and should be treated with dignity and respect. their leaders should been executed those who dragged lebanon into civil war. Geagea served time compare to any wartime lord.. what did walid serve after inciting his militia to kill 200 christians after the death of his father.. what did Aoun get after turning his troops on Lebanese instead of Syrian? what did Aoun do for the jailed Army in Syria.. he gave up on them.. I do not support Geagea period and could careless about anyone involved in the war. All I am saying that M14 is not going around killing people like M8. You guys keep distracting from the real issues at hand. The killing machine that you’re protecting and trying to keep going round and round with others issues. I do not care about Bashar and just because he is not extermists muslim that didn’t stop him from butchering christians in Lebanon and that mostly goes to his father of course. The christians in Syria I was told were dancing in the streets and shooting in the air after Bashir Gemyal. These people either stupid or were scared. The christians yes were not harmed as much as sunnis but that doesn’t mean Bashar cared about them and they’re minority and he needed them. But Hafez Assad killed Alwaites who were critical of him. people were and still scared of them period. Hassan Nassrallah may not have proof of him killing anyone personally. But are you telling me he didn’t order killing Pierre Gemyal, Gibran, Walid eido, Ghanem and hariri and many more innocent lebanese? doesn’t have lebanese blood on his hand? I never heard Bashir Gemyal killed anyone..so why are you guys condeming him then? we’re talking now and Franjieh is still a thug and acting like one and proud of it. forget the war its useless putting those leaders in jail and let’s be realistic you can’t. We’re talking since hariri and many innocent that went down with him and after him. where is the justice for them? why everytime we ask for communications data the gov’t/isf is being denied.. what are you hiding? all crimes  proofs lead to Dahia, Syria and iran. stop saying its israel and amerinca projects. Enough insults on top of insulting the dead. its like you’re killing them twice. enough said. you just trying to frustrate me like all M8 love to do.. All i can say again and again the more frustration and killing you keep doing the more anger will turn into mob killings of M8 and their dirt followers scum liking earth warms.

    • rossoferrari

      One can be honest with what he knows and learned. Unfortunately for an illiterate he does not qualify. May be herding is a better area for him to delve into.

      • tayyyyar10452

        wow; you are attacking our moufti the 5th ; she brags her analphabetism

  • nagy_michael2

    So how come M8 immediately accuses Israel of any bombing that kills M8 politicians or officials? Franjiah you punk don’t remember that the Syrian regime facilitated the entry of LF forces to enter Zagharta and kill your father. You ignored the fact that Syrian regime divided and separated you from LF so they weaken the christians and divide forever? just because they protected your senile grandfather because he killed too many people. Do you have to keep following in their footsteps? You want to find out who are the allies that betrayed Wissam Al Hassan? what difference does it make? killers or allies? he was monitored by your brothers in Dahia who are in control of everything in Lebanon including the airport..everyone including Franjiah is trying to distract the facts from the crime and confuse everyone.. One day they send Pat.. Rai to say M14 are distracting the dialogue or the gov’t. Now Berri wants to talk about Gas explorations(Too much falafel there)..Miqati says we’re not being fair for not sitting at the dialogue table. how can M14 sit down with killers? How can we sit down with Samaha protectors and allies? how can M14 walk to parliment without getting threatened? Until the killers brought to justice what’s the use of continuing dialogue? Until hezbollah stop using christians against Christians? sunnis against sunnis? what is the use of dialogue when you can’t convince to be civil and peaceful to Lebenase? when you can’t convince them their jihadists are really killing Free Syrian People and they deny it. when you can’t convince them to stop being used by Iran and Syria for the sake of these countries interests? what a pity that Lebanon is being governed directly and indirectly by a thug like Franjiah and Nassrallah and the clown Aoun. when are we lebanese going to learn to stop following these idiots..I do not care if you are M8, 14 or 20.. do you care about Lebanon and its entity and its people and its rights to exists.M8 is helping Syria and Iran to destroy what’s left of Lebanon period. They’re finishing what Israel started and they’re doing much better job at it. Thank you for coming to Lebanon now please leave and hit the road Jacks..

    • tayyyyar10452

      listen; i myself am not hizbollah but find their stance the closest to beshir gemayyels and certainly the closest to logic and moderation; i dont know who killed who, i am not involved in the investigations, but to ascertain hizbollah killed these people is a big calomniation based on no proof; in the west you can go to jail for this. During  wars there is killing, even beshir gemayyel killed the ahrar in safra; sometimes there is a bad move which serves the good. Democratic states call it “raison d’etat”. assad kicked out his brother rifaat, i agree, but rifaat was a gangster; i was against syria when syria was in Lebanon; please dont insult our intelligence by telling us we should enjoy a salafi regime in syria with an extension to the north of Lebanon. As far as general aoun turning his army inside, lol, thats the best joke i heard this year; if general aoun was as criminal as geagea, geagea would have been in the tomb today. The 8th brigade of the army at that time, lead by selim callas, was capable of taking over kesrouan and jbeil in 48 hours; the general refused to give orders to do it because he refused to have christian blood; such an attack would cost 1000”s  of civilian innocent deads; if you need more details please ask me and dont jump into conclusions you got from the maffia propaganda machine of geagea. Aoun was a virgin brain; he was trapped by the americans; you know our generals in Lebanon are not as futed as other generals in other armies,; Lebanon was not meant to be a warrior country and people who went to the military school of fayyadyyeh are those who failed university; 5th would have been an excellent general. As you notice, our generals have all ambitions but lack brains; it so happens i know personally two of them very well; but you cant say they are criminals: the only criminals the lebanese army graduated are the series of ahmads which where salafi generals in the arab lebanese army, a corollary to the flea syrian army at that time; noticing your stance towards the palestinians, please do not moralise us and give us lessons in patriotism anymore; thanks for your understanding

      • patriotss

        well said 

      • nagy_michael2

        First hezbollah stances are not near what Bashir Gemyal’s period. Bashir wanted lebanon first and that proved in the end when he was about to be elected president, Israel tried to submit him to their will and they ended up fighting. That should have meant to everyone yes we depended some on Israelis weapons but what do Christians were suppose to do then.. Unfortunately most muslims sided with the PLO then and he didn’t want like many lebanese PLO taking over Lebanon. In reality he was fighting the Kissenger and israeli plans not to make lebanon an PLO main country. So those who called him and called the phalangists then traitors were all wrong in my opinion. Even Amal then actually sided with the phalangist indirectly and imo Imam moussa Al Sadr got betrayed by Iran and Syria. Of Course Ghaddafi had him killed but there were no way Iran and Syria couldn’t have had him freed or at least complained to Ghaddaffi about his wereabouts. How many times you have heard Iranian gov’t wanted to know the fate of the 4 diplomats who went thru east beirut but hardly about Imam Moussa Al Sadr. As far as AOun i was on his side when he fought the syrians. However i was very disappointed that he made deals with Syria without insisting the lebanese troops that were and whomever left alive to be freed before he made a deal with hezbollah and Syrian regime. To me he wants to get elected from different areas in lebanon because he knows in the christians areas he will loose. Apparently he would be guaranteed votes from non-christians for sure. geagea he was a warlord then like Jumblatt and others who were caught in the war ifluences. I am not a supporter of his but at least he doesn’t go around and preach violance and he is not going around like M8 leaders who threatens every one if they merely get criticized. please do not tell me that M8 is not behind the killings it adds more insults to the living ones and kill twice the good people who died for the sake of Lebanon. Not like those so called jihadists fighting Syrian people who are seeking freedom and better living conditions in Syria. why should it be only the Pusscats family should live in prosperity and take control of every aspects  of syrian lives.I give you lessons in Patriotism when you do not stop protecting the Syrian regimes and Iran mullahs. not all Sunnis are bad and not all christians or Shiites are good either. Everytime we try to find who killed M14 officials you bring the subject that Geagea is a criminal. or we should sit down with the gov’t and negotiate.. Bashar has made openly clear that all Lebanon in danger and it will burn. Wissam Al hassan is standing in Iran and syria’s ways. he was helping the Intelligence community of the west. Do not insult us by telling us Israel killed him and then pass out candy in dahia after you killed him. stop you dumb acts and ignorance and be lebanese for a change. Syrian Christians did not give a damn about Christians being in Lebanon during the 30 years. Suddenly you’re sympathisizing with them? they were dancing in the streets when Bashir was killed. I say let them fight their own battles for the hole they dug themselves in.  Frankly if I don’t want to be mean i say let syria burns as Lebanon did. But Bashar wants to burn lebanon again every time a new leafs springs again. And you and your allies in hezbollah are more than pleaesed and obliged to him. help lebanon get back again.show us this gov’t is better than m14. Get electricity up and running. rebuild roads and get water supplies to all lebanese. fix the country and prove yourself instead of your beloved Aoun busy with his brother in law stealing from every gov’t project that never materlized. Tell your buddies in dahia and other areas to pay for electricity and stop attacking EDL employees. Tell your hezbollah to allow army in all areas of lebanon. stop the dumb act will you..

    • tayyyyar10452

      again i agree with you on the syrian regime at that time; but you are omitting a serious issue: the criminal geagea killed his father.  At that time where were you hiding when we were resisting syrian occupation? please have the courage to answer this question; this applies to 5th moufti too and other pro hariri condom fighters

      • tayyyyar10452

        in my previous blog the word condom slipped accidentally and replaced what they call themselves by: freedom; lol freedom fighters hahahaha; salafi freedom fighters or syphilis condom fighters

        • 5thDrawer

          Love how you answer your own little diatribes when no-one else will because they are silly.
          (The need for condoms to prevent various diseases, as well as too many children, is well documented.)
          Let’s just say Geagea is past history – although the guy comes out with some good points at times. Many politicians do, actually, have a good thought on occasion.
          Your question about where anyone was hiding is silly too – because it is all PAST stupidity (survivors know it) and which we should all agree matters little when trying to create a new viable future.
          Pro-Hariri … which you think is bad to be … is a moot thing to even question one way or the other, since the last election results were completely erased anyway by ‘the party’ who only won 2 seats out of 30 in the Exhaulted Cabinet. They walked out and dragged their fearful buddies with them. Under the ‘rules’ of the silly system no-one could sit and pass any law, make any decisions, or even come up with the largely unneeded ‘El Presidente’ … until they found one that the unelected were happy with. The people had voted, but no-one they elected could do anything anyway. Basically still can’t.
          So to dump on Hariri or any of the people who were elected to run the place is unrealistic flap-twaddle because they couldn’t. AND How would anyone know after 4 years if they were capable? All that went on then or goes on now is ‘dialogue’ never related to anything to do with ‘government business’ for the people.
          (taking note that after MUCH time and greasing the right hands they finally decided to rent two power-ships … which don’t seem to be doing much … and who’s running THAT show with the unpaid electric bills?)
          Besides a probable need to save his ass from some assassin, I don’t blame Hariri for taking time out to leave and enjoy a bit of life elsewhere, since there was nothing he was being allowed to do anyway … so whether any of us voted for him or not doesn’t matter, does it?
          Do you think 2013 will provide a different result?
          Do you actually want one? I think not … the useless flap-twaddle continues, mired in the past.

  • nagy_michael2

    So how come M8 immediately accuses Israel of any bombing that kills M8 politicians or officials? Franjiah you punk don’t remember that the Syrian regime facilitated the entry of LF forces to enter Zagharta and kill your father. You ignored the fact that Syrian regime divided and separated you from LF so they weaken the christians and divide forever? just because they protected your senile grandfather because he killed too many people. Do you have to keep following in their footsteps? You want to find out who are the allies that betrayed Wissam Al Hassan? what difference does it make? killers or allies? he was monitored by your brothers in Dahia who are in control of everything in Lebanon including the airport..everyone including Franjiah is trying to distract the facts from the crime and confuse everyone.. One day they send Pat.. Rai to say M14 are distracting the dialogue or the gov’t. Now Berri wants to talk about Gas explorations(Too much falafel there)..Miqati says we’re not being fair for not sitting at the dialogue table. how can M14 sit down with killers? How can we sit down with Samaha protectors and allies? how can M14 walk to parliment without getting threatened? Until the killers brought to justice what’s the use of continuing dialogue? Until hezbollah stop using christians against Christians? sunnis against sunnis? what is the use of dialogue when you can’t convince to be civil and peaceful to Lebenase? when you can’t convince them their jihadists are really killing Free Syrian People and they deny it. when you can’t convince them to stop being used by Iran and Syria for the sake of these countries interests? what a pity that Lebanon is being governed directly and indirectly by a thug like Franjiah and Nassrallah and the clown Aoun. when are we lebanese going to learn to stop following these idiots..I do not care if you are M8, 14 or 20.. do you care about Lebanon and its entity and its people and its rights to exists.M8 is helping Syria and Iran to destroy what’s left of Lebanon period. They’re finishing what Israel started and they’re doing much better job at it. Thank you for coming to Lebanon now please leave and hit the road Jacks..

    • tayyyyar10452

      listen; i myself am not hizbollah but find their stance the closest to beshir gemayyels and certainly the closest to logic and moderation; i dont know who killed who, i am not involved in the investigations, but to ascertain hizbollah killed these people is a big calomniation based on no proof; in the west you can go to jail for this. During  wars there is killing, even beshir gemayyel killed the ahrar in safra; sometimes there is a bad move which serves the good. Democratic states call it “raison d’etat”. assad kicked out his brother rifaat, i agree, but rifaat was a gangster; i was against syria when syria was in Lebanon; please dont insult our intelligence by telling us we should enjoy a salafi regime in syria with an extension to the north of Lebanon. As far as general aoun turning his army inside, lol, thats the best joke i heard this year; if general aoun was as criminal as geagea, geagea would have been in the tomb today. The 8th brigade of the army at that time, lead by selim callas, was capable of taking over kesrouan and jbeil in 48 hours; the general refused to give orders to do it because he refused to have christian blood; such an attack would cost 1000”s  of civilian innocent deads; if you need more details please ask me and dont jump into conclusions you got from the maffia propaganda machine of geagea. Aoun was a virgin brain; he was trapped by the americans; you know our generals in Lebanon are not as futed as other generals in other armies,; Lebanon was not meant to be a warrior country and people who went to the military school of fayyadyyeh are those who failed university; 5th would have been an excellent general. As you notice, our generals have all ambitions but lack brains; it so happens i know personally two of them very well; but you cant say they are criminals: the only criminals the lebanese army graduated are the series of ahmads which where salafi generals in the arab lebanese army, a corollary to the flea syrian army at that time; noticing your stance towards the palestinians, please do not moralise us and give us lessons in patriotism anymore; thanks for your understanding

      • patriotss

        well said 

      • nagy_michael2

        First hezbollah stances are not near what Bashir Gemyal’s period. Bashir wanted lebanon first and that proved in the end when he was about to be elected president, Israel tried to submit him to their will and they ended up fighting. That should have meant to everyone yes we depended some on Israelis weapons but what do Christians were suppose to do then.. Unfortunately most muslims sided with the PLO then and he didn’t want like many lebanese PLO taking over Lebanon. In reality he was fighting the Kissenger and israeli plans not to make lebanon an PLO main country. So those who called him and called the phalangists then traitors were all wrong in my opinion. Even Amal then actually sided with the phalangist indirectly and imo Imam moussa Al Sadr got betrayed by Iran and Syria. Of Course Ghaddafi had him killed but there were no way Iran and Syria couldn’t have had him freed or at least complained to Ghaddaffi about his wereabouts. How many times you have heard Iranian gov’t wanted to know the fate of the 4 diplomats who went thru east beirut but hardly about Imam Moussa Al Sadr. As far as AOun i was on his side when he fought the syrians. However i was very disappointed that he made deals with Syria without insisting the lebanese troops that were and whomever left alive to be freed before he made a deal with hezbollah and Syrian regime. To me he wants to get elected from different areas in lebanon because he knows in the christians areas he will loose. Apparently he would be guaranteed votes from non-christians for sure. geagea he was a warlord then like Jumblatt and others who were caught in the war ifluences. I am not a supporter of his but at least he doesn’t go around and preach violance and he is not going around like M8 leaders who threatens every one if they merely get criticized. please do not tell me that M8 is not behind the killings it adds more insults to the living ones and kill twice the good people who died for the sake of Lebanon. Not like those so called jihadists fighting Syrian people who are seeking freedom and better living conditions in Syria. why should it be only the Pusscats family should live in prosperity and take control of every aspects  of syrian lives.I give you lessons in Patriotism when you do not stop protecting the Syrian regimes and Iran mullahs. not all Sunnis are bad and not all christians or Shiites are good either. Everytime we try to find who killed M14 officials you bring the subject that Geagea is a criminal. or we should sit down with the gov’t and negotiate.. Bashar has made openly clear that all Lebanon in danger and it will burn. Wissam Al hassan is standing in Iran and syria’s ways. he was helping the Intelligence community of the west. Do not insult us by telling us Israel killed him and then pass out candy in dahia after you killed him. stop you dumb acts and ignorance and be lebanese for a change. Syrian Christians did not give a damn about Christians being in Lebanon during the 30 years. Suddenly you’re sympathisizing with them? they were dancing in the streets when Bashir was killed. I say let them fight their own battles for the hole they dug themselves in.  Frankly if I don’t want to be mean i say let syria burns as Lebanon did. But Bashar wants to burn lebanon again every time a new leafs springs again. And you and your allies in hezbollah are more than pleaesed and obliged to him. help lebanon get back again.show us this gov’t is better than m14. Get electricity up and running. rebuild roads and get water supplies to all lebanese. fix the country and prove yourself instead of your beloved Aoun busy with his brother in law stealing from every gov’t project that never materlized. Tell your buddies in dahia and other areas to pay for electricity and stop attacking EDL employees. Tell your hezbollah to allow army in all areas of lebanon. stop the dumb act will you..

    • tayyyyar10452

      again i agree with you on the syrian regime at that time; but you are omitting a serious issue: the criminal geagea killed his father.  At that time where were you hiding when we were resisting syrian occupation? please have the courage to answer this question; this applies to 5th moufti too and other pro hariri condom fighters

      • tayyyyar10452

        in my previous blog the word condom slipped accidentally and replaced what they call themselves by: freedom; lol freedom fighters hahahaha; salafi freedom fighters or syphilis condom fighters

        • 5thDrawer

          Love how you answer your own little diatribes when no-one else will because they are silly.
          (The need for condoms to prevent various diseases, as well as too many children, is well documented.)
          Let’s just say Geagea is past history – although the guy comes out with some good points at times. Many politicians do, actually, have a good thought on occasion.
          Your question about where anyone was hiding is silly too – because it is all PAST stupidity (survivors know it) and which we should all agree matters little when trying to create a new viable future.
          Pro-Hariri … which you think is bad to be … is a moot thing to even question one way or the other, since the last election results were completely erased anyway by ‘the party’ who only won 2 seats out of 30 in the Exhaulted Cabinet. They walked out and dragged their fearful buddies with them. Under the ‘rules’ of the silly system no-one could sit and pass any law, make any decisions, or even come up with the largely unneeded ‘El Presidente’ … until they found one that the unelected were happy with. The people had voted, but no-one they elected could do anything anyway. Basically still can’t.
          So to dump on Hariri or any of the people who were elected to run the place is unrealistic flap-twaddle because they couldn’t. AND How would anyone know after 4 years if they were capable? All that went on then or goes on now is ‘dialogue’ never related to anything to do with ‘government business’ for the people.
          (taking note that after MUCH time and greasing the right hands they finally decided to rent two power-ships … which don’t seem to be doing much … and who’s running THAT show with the unpaid electric bills?)
          Besides a probable need to save his ass from some assassin, I don’t blame Hariri for taking time out to leave and enjoy a bit of life elsewhere, since there was nothing he was being allowed to do anyway … so whether any of us voted for him or not doesn’t matter, does it?
          Do you think 2013 will provide a different result?
          Do you actually want one? I think not … the useless flap-twaddle continues, mired in the past.

  • tayyyar10452

    an article in the guardian drew my attention: it says the flea syrian army is bringing syria back to the 7th century; great article, applies also to this blog which is trying to bring Lebanon back to the 7th century

    • nagy_michael2

      yes and maybe.. but many good fighters reject the joining of Islamic extremists and could careless for them. Majority of Syrian Sunnis even the religious ones are not true salfists and i have dealt with them before and were good to us. So Iran wants Lebanon to be like Iran under its rules and trying to do that with all middle east. so what difference does it make if Waliat Al Faqih takes over vs Al Qaada.. they’re both the same mentality and same rules just playing different games. Al Qaada wants it now. Hezbollah realized it has to wait a bit longer. Its like Aoun doesn’t know anymore what is christianity for example. he recognizes the authority of Iran, hezbollah and Syria nothing else matters to him. As long as he gets paid he doesn’t mind converting his followers like you to sheep under hezbollah. its ok and its the norm right now. we understand you’re afraid and scared and need protection. hezbollah can provide you with such protection as long as you follow the waliat Al Faqih rules which you’re doing now indirectly. But you’re so blind you can’t see it. its ok when you are scared its normal that you follow the leader Nassrallah.. why not the devil do it all times and the Devil nassrallah is no different..

      • 5thDrawer

        Quite true Nagy. To lump all the Syrians who wanted freedom into one ‘salafi’ bundle is wrong. This bit from a BBC article (which 1045&1/2 will state can’t be a real quote because it’s in BBC) is probably accurate in thought … and the ‘real Syrians’ will have troubles for years because of the ‘jihadists’.

        “The rebels who refuse to hold the al-Qaeda flag and don’t have an extremist ideology are poorly funded,” Um Ahmad said.
        “I am a Salafi by belief but I don’t have the extremist ideology that’s being imposed on the rebels by the Saudis. I fear these Islamist are going to prevail with their own extremist ideology in Syria.”
        Those are the fears of an opposition Salafi woman. The concern is much greater amongst secular political opposition.
        “The violence has got us nowhere,” said one opposition activist with a secular background who has been working on peaceful means of change.”  (Still some dreamers there …)
        “The regional players are manipulating our revolution and arming those who would only accept radical ideologies.”
        “Those men with the FSA who refuse to follow the radical Islamist ideology are poorly armed,” the secular opposition activist told me. “Sometimes they can’t even find enough money to feed themselves.”

        What started out as scare-mongering on the part of the government (which began the terror-tactics and wouldn’t allow the changes) has now become a reality, with al-Qaeda elements and foreign jihadis fighting in Syria.

        • tayyyyar10452

          it comes originally from the guardian; it so happened i was in London when the BBC put it: it quoted the guardian and i have the article on paper with me; to bundle the flea srian army under salafism is the correct approach: most of the regular syrian army soldiers killed are sunnah who are not religiously motivated: hafez assad, despite his alawi favouritism, managed to install an arabic nationalist secular ideology in the mind of the syrians and you still see a lot of support to his son bashshar coming from sunna while some alawis are against him: father assad gave most of the advanced syrian army weapons to the alawi brigades and kept the sunna weaker ones to fight israel (theatre wars to consolidate him as an arabic leader and to defuse salafi entropy against israel, getting rid of them in war, thus profiting from them rather than putting them in mazzeh at that time). From here you understand why he got rif3aat his brother away: rif3aat did a deal with sharon and beshir gemayyel to work on a christian country and a alawi country. When beshir was elected president, he broke the covenant and worked for a 10452 Lebanon which was a surprise to all; now i have to admit that america in the meanwhile changed its plans: the israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 was supposed to reach damascus, however the american state department secretary at that time, alexandre haig, ordered tsahal to stop at the lebanese borders; is it a real change in plans or an american booby trap as usual? i do not know! Beshir was murdered by a syrian national progressist secular militant (hizb al kawmi assouri) one of the most dangerous M8 parties that need to be forbidden as it was before the war in Lebanon. This militant, habib al shartouni, coordinated his actions with the syrian secret services in paris, namely ali douba; the brain behind this murder was the cia. As a consequence, beshir was eliminated, sharon fell (secondary to sabra & shatila) and a time later, hafez assad exiles his brother rifaat; all compatible with american change of plans. Actually america does not change plans: america presents always at least two apparent antagonistic plans: one by the state department and one by the pentagone. Hence you notice again the postponing of the american plans to divide the area by eliminating the agents that were necessary for the previous plan. I honestly hope you can understand 10% of this ; btw this you wont find on wikipedia; it is free of charge

        • tayyyyar10452

          i cant believe you are genuine; you are either infiltrating the hariri camp or you are yourself a salafi practising halal taquyya; no mind with few neurons can utter this nonsense just regurgitating what the salafis are saying

  • tayyyar10452

    an article in the guardian drew my attention: it says the flea syrian army is bringing syria back to the 7th century; great article, applies also to this blog which is trying to bring Lebanon back to the 7th century

    • nagy_michael2

      yes and maybe.. but many good fighters reject the joining of Islamic extremists and could careless for them. Majority of Syrian Sunnis even the religious ones are not true salfists and i have dealt with them before and were good to us. So Iran wants Lebanon to be like Iran under its rules and trying to do that with all middle east. so what difference does it make if Waliat Al Faqih takes over vs Al Qaada.. they’re both the same mentality and same rules just playing different games. Al Qaada wants it now. Hezbollah realized it has to wait a bit longer. Its like Aoun doesn’t know anymore what is christianity for example. he recognizes the authority of Iran, hezbollah and Syria nothing else matters to him. As long as he gets paid he doesn’t mind converting his followers like you to sheep under hezbollah. its ok and its the norm right now. we understand you’re afraid and scared and need protection. hezbollah can provide you with such protection as long as you follow the waliat Al Faqih rules which you’re doing now indirectly. But you’re so blind you can’t see it. its ok when you are scared its normal that you follow the leader Nassrallah.. why not the devil do it all times and the Devil nassrallah is no different..

      • 5thDrawer

        Quite true Nagy. To lump all the Syrians who wanted freedom into one ‘salafi’ bundle is wrong. This bit from a BBC article (which 1045&1/2 will state can’t be a real quote because it’s in BBC) is probably accurate in thought … and the ‘real Syrians’ will have troubles for years because of the ‘jihadists’.

        “The rebels who refuse to hold the al-Qaeda flag and don’t have an extremist ideology are poorly funded,” Um Ahmad said.
        “I am a Salafi by belief but I don’t have the extremist ideology that’s being imposed on the rebels by the Saudis. I fear these Islamist are going to prevail with their own extremist ideology in Syria.”
        Those are the fears of an opposition Salafi woman. The concern is much greater amongst secular political opposition.
        “The violence has got us nowhere,” said one opposition activist with a secular background who has been working on peaceful means of change.”  (Still some dreamers there …)
        “The regional players are manipulating our revolution and arming those who would only accept radical ideologies.”
        “Those men with the FSA who refuse to follow the radical Islamist ideology are poorly armed,” the secular opposition activist told me. “Sometimes they can’t even find enough money to feed themselves.”
        What started out as scare-mongering on the part of the government (which began the terror-tactics and wouldn’t allow the changes) has now become a reality, with al-Qaeda elements and foreign jihadis fighting in Syria.

        • tayyyyar10452

          it comes originally from the guardian; it so happened i was in London when the BBC put it: it quoted the guardian and i have the article on paper with me; to bundle the flea srian army under salafism is the correct approach: most of the regular syrian army soldiers killed are sunnah who are not religiously motivated: hafez assad, despite his alawi favouritism, managed to install an arabic nationalist secular ideology in the mind of the syrians and you still see a lot of support to his son bashshar coming from sunna while some alawis are against him: father assad gave most of the advanced syrian army weapons to the alawi brigades and kept the sunna weaker ones to fight israel (theatre wars to consolidate him as an arabic leader and to defuse salafi entropy against israel, getting rid of them in war, thus profiting from them rather than putting them in mazzeh at that time). From here you understand why he got rif3aat his brother away: rif3aat did a deal with sharon and beshir gemayyel to work on a christian country and a alawi country. When beshir was elected president, he broke the covenant and worked for a 10452 Lebanon which was a surprise to all; now i have to admit that america in the meanwhile changed its plans: the israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 was supposed to reach damascus, however the american state department secretary at that time, alexandre haig, ordered tsahal to stop at the lebanese borders; is it a real change in plans or an american booby trap as usual? i do not know! Beshir was murdered by a syrian national progressist secular militant (hizb al kawmi assouri) one of the most dangerous M8 parties that need to be forbidden as it was before the war in Lebanon. This militant, habib al shartouni, coordinated his actions with the syrian secret services in paris, namely ali douba; the brain behind this murder was the cia. As a consequence, beshir was eliminated, sharon fell (secondary to sabra & shatila) and a time later, hafez assad exiles his brother rifaat; all compatible with american change of plans. Actually america does not change plans: america presents always at least two apparent antagonistic plans: one by the state department and one by the pentagone. Hence you notice again the postponing of the american plans to divide the area by eliminating the agents that were necessary for the previous plan. I honestly hope you can understand 10% of this ; btw this you wont find on wikipedia; it is free of charge

        • tayyyyar10452

          i cant believe you are genuine; you are either infiltrating the hariri camp or you are yourself a salafi practising halal taquyya; no mind with few neurons can utter this nonsense just regurgitating what the salafis are saying

  • tayyyyar10452

    surprise surprise; faja’nakom mooooooooo

    • master09

      You should see who I am related to and they are all crooks, you should see who used to walk into our family home and Aoun Nasrallah are like kitchen HANDS COMARED TO THE ONES i AM TALKING ABOUT….tHE FUNNY SHIT IS WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND MOST OF THE TIME ITS FULL OF ………………/////….. WE ARE ALL SOMEWHERE IN THIS WORLD BUT DOES NOT MAKE US RITE OR WRONG…..EVEN THE ONES I KNOW ARE FULL OF SHIT……THEY ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLL CROOOOOOKS EVERY ONE OF THEM…..ITS LIKE THEY SAY GEAGEA KILED A LOT ,,,, SO TELLL ME THE REST DID NOTTTTTT…..THE WORLD GETS FUNNNY AND MORE FUNNY,,,WE ALL KNOW SOMETHINGGGG…..BY THE WAY YOU WORKING WITH SOMEONE IS NOT PROOFF THAT THEY ARE NOT CROOKS……PROOOOFFF IS WHAT I LIKE…..WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND DOORS WHEN ENEMIES SHAKE HANDS IS THE PART I HAVE SEEENNNN ON MANY TIMESS…PROOFFF, PLEASE…
      and FOR THE RECORD I DO NOT FOLLOW SUPPORT OR WANT TO BE PART OF THE CROOKS BE IT 8 0R 14 0R 69……

      • tayyyyar10452

        yesss, i agree with you on what happens behind the scene and i have witnessed that too and i am glad you are saying it yourself: i have been saying it 10452 times on this blog but unfortunately the hariri lambs here do not want to accept it and still speak of condom fighters or freedom fighters; politicians are all corrupt even in democracies and anyone who tries to stop this corruption will be fought against by a huge dominant maffia; just look at this blog: you either agree with the mini maffia here or they ban you; and who is this mini maffia: 5th is wij al sahhara; lol more mini than that and you die

        • 5thDrawer

          Actually, Master09, he reminds me a lot of one brother-in-law. The family can sit down to a dinner at various times, ostensibly to enjoy that ‘together feeling’ which families are supposed to have at ‘special times’ of the year, and the ‘catching-up’ conversations will begin about what each is doing or thinking of doing … all fine and familyish. (Hehehe … as usual wink,wink).
          This ‘brother’ is what I would call a ‘sports nut’. He does some himself … still …. admirable from a physical standpoint. BUT !!
          Everything in his mind relates somehow to a sport. And while he may have memorized a vast pile of crap about sports, he assumes others feel the same way or really care, or indeed he thinks no-one really knows anything as well as he does. Every conversation about any subject ends up in comparisons about a sports hero or league or manager … and often about the money too. And then, in the end, somehow of course it relates back to him – along with name-dropping of sporty-types he may have met along the way. And it ALWAYS happens.
          The family – being condescending and generally nice – inevitably has the conversations taken over by the ‘addict’ … until his is the only voice floating sonorously over a room with a few older stuffed bodies with nodding heads, while the ones who could escape to outside or a different room or back home (lucky ones with crying babies 😉 have done so.
          Perhaps sometimes he wonders why I have little to say to him. Probably assumes things about me, while knowing little about me. After more than 40 years of experience with him, there’s little point in expecting anything else, of course.
          I become one of the stuffed bodies nodding (complacently only because he’s ‘family’), and then pick a moment to disappear into the night. And I guess he will never figure that out.

        • master09

          But its not just the Hariri lambs, it is the SHEEP that follow ANYONE AT ALL…SO BE IT HARRIRI OR NAS OR GEAGEA OR AOUN IF YOU GET MY MIND…………..SHEEP AND PLENTY OF……5TH WOULD HAVE TO BE THE MOST OPEN MIND ON THIS BLOGGGG, YOU JUST HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES……..LOL  

  • tayyyyar10452

    surprise surprise; faja’nakom mooooooooo

    • master09

      You should see who I am related to and they are all crooks, you should see who used to walk into our family home and Aoun Nasrallah are like kitchen HANDS COMARED TO THE ONES i AM TALKING ABOUT….tHE FUNNY SHIT IS WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND MOST OF THE TIME ITS FULL OF ………………/////….. WE ARE ALL SOMEWHERE IN THIS WORLD BUT DOES NOT MAKE US RITE OR WRONG…..EVEN THE ONES I KNOW ARE FULL OF SHIT……THEY ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLL CROOOOOOKS EVERY ONE OF THEM…..ITS LIKE THEY SAY GEAGEA KILED A LOT ,,,, SO TELLL ME THE REST DID NOTTTTTT…..THE WORLD GETS FUNNNY AND MORE FUNNY,,,WE ALL KNOW SOMETHINGGGG…..

      • tayyyyar10452

        yesss, i agree with you on what happens behind the scene and i have witnessed that too and i am glad you are saying it yourself: i have been saying it 10452 times on this blog but unfortunately the hariri lambs here do not want to accept it and still speak of condom fighters or freedom fighters; politicians are all corrupt even in democracies and anyone who tries to stop this corruption will be fought against by a huge dominant maffia; just look at this blog: you either agree with the mini maffia here or they ban you; and who is this mini maffia: 5th is wij al sahhara; lol more mini than that and you die

        • 5thDrawer

          Actually, Master09, he reminds me a lot of one brother-in-law. The family can sit down to a dinner at various times, ostensibly to enjoy that ‘together feeling’ which families are supposed to have at ‘special times’ of the year, and the ‘catching-up’ conversations will begin about what each is doing or thinking of doing … all fine and familyish. (Hehehe … as usual wink,wink).
          This guy is what I would call a ‘sports nut’. He does some himself … still …. admirable from a physical standpoint. BUT !!
          Everything in his mind relates somehow to a sport. And while he may have memorized a vast pile of crap about sports, he assumes others feel the same way or really care, or indeed he thinks no-one really know nothing as well as he does. Every conversation about any subject ends up in comparisons about a sports hero or league or manager … and often about the money too. And then, in the end, somehow of course it relates back to him – along with name-dropping of sporty-types he may have met along the way. And it ALWAYS happens.
          The family – being condescending and generally nice – inevitably has the conversations taken over by the ‘addict’ … until his is the only voice floating sonorously over a room with a few older stuffed bodies with nodding heads, while the ones who could escape to outside or a different room or back home (lucky ones with crying babies 😉 have done so.
          Perhaps sometimes he wonders why I have little to say to him. Probably assumes things about me, while knowing little about me. After more than 40 years of experience with him, there’s little point in expecting anything else, of course.
          I become one of the stuffed bodies nodding (complacently only because he’s ‘family’), and then pick a moment to disappear into the night. And I guess he will never figure that out.

        • master09

          But its not just the Hariri lambs, it is the SHEEP that follow ANYONE AT ALL…SO BE IT HARRIRI OR NAS OR GEAGEA OR AOUN IF YOU GET MY MIND…………..SHEEP AND PLENTY OF……5TH WOULD HAVE TO BE THE MOST OPEN MIND ON THIS BLOGGGG, YOU JUST HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES……..LOL  

  • rossoferrari

    That piece of crap comparing muganieh to hassan, Now you know who is the traitor and who would sell his country to iran ans syria so he can fulfill his aspiration…He is an idiot

    • tayyyyar10452

      mughnyyeh is a hero, hassan is a saoudi agent

  • rossoferrari

    That piece of crap comparing muganieh to hassan, Now you know who is the traitor and who would sell his country to iran ans syria so he can fulfill his aspiration…He is an idiot

    • tayyyyar10452

      mughnyyeh is a hero, hassan is a saoudi agent

  • josephphdman

    the civil war in syria it,s not only a syrian  conflict ,but is first a sunnis shia’s war  and ultimatley international involvemnt
    while , russia and iran and iraq  supports assad and his regeme ,on the other side turkey,saudi arabia , quatar, kwait , all the sunnis majority countries supporting the freesyrian army and the rebels;
    the us have a different goal in syria , yes the us like to see  asad go but to be replaced by a secular governement ; but  saudi arabia and the gulf countries ,  supporting the opposition and they want asad removal at any price ,but they are  also hoping for an islamic  sunnis state in syria ,not a secular one , the regeme in syria had been fighting for survival, they are in in a civil war ,it,is a stealmate , the regeme is weaken by day and this civil war will last for years ,at the end  syria may be divided into 3 different state ,alawite ,sunnis , and kurdish state ; and that will definatley please turkey , there kurdish population have there own state to migrate to instead of asking for a kurdish state inside turkey ; final opinion for mr franjieh , yes his friend asad may survive for a while , but he will be too weak to support him or help him .
     

    • tayyyyar10452

      glad you are having your phd speak here; lot of logic in your words even though your bias is obvious; syria will split true; but turkey will too; one thing i disagree wiht you: why would america want to see assad go? he has been a very obedient guy as well as his father; a more logical ending of your scenario is an iran turkey war

      • josephphdman

        america like to see asad go because of his support to hezbollah   who the us classify them as terrorrist organization , but there is no hurry to replace him ,because the us fear an islamist state may emerge in syria  if assad fell  quickly,  until syria split, or  a guaranteed of a secular governement will follow asad , he will be there and that may take years , and  if syria split or when it does,  asad will stay a leader of his alawite state forever; the argument of a turkey iran war? it  is possible , but that is a very dangerous path because turkey is a nato member ,turkey engamgement in war with iran will drag nato into war , and that will possible lead to russia joining that  war on iran side  and world war3 will start  !!!!

        • tayyyyar10452

          mr phd;
          i bet i know you
          if you had the obligation of reading my previous blogs, you wouldnt come up with this conclusion
          when usa says you are a terrorist in middle east, it means usa is supporting you; i would be afraid when usa says yopu are her friend

  • josephphdman

    the civil war in syria it,s not only a syrian  conflict ,but is first a sunnis shia’s war  and ultimatley international involvemnt
    while , russia and iran and iraq  supports assad and his regeme ,on the other side turkey,saudi arabia , quatar, kwait , all the sunnis majority countries supporting the freesyrian army and the rebels;
    the us have a different goal in syria , yes the us like to see  asad go but to be replaced by a secular governement ; but  saudi arabia and the gulf countries ,  supporting the opposition and they want asad removal at any price ,but they are  also hoping for an islamic  sunnis state in syria ,not a secular one , the regeme in syria had been fighting for survival, they are in in a civil war ,it,is a stealmate , the regeme is weaken by day and this civil war will last for years ,at the end  syria may be divided into 3 different state ,alawite ,sunnis , and kurdish state ; and that will definatley please turkey , there kurdish population have there own state to migrate to instead of asking for a kurdish state inside turkey ; final opinion for mr franjieh , yes his friend asad may survive for a while , but he will be too weak to support him or help him .
     

    • tayyyyar10452

      glad you are having your phd speak here; lot of logic in your words even though your bias is obvious; syria will split true; but turkey will too; one thing i disagree wiht you: why would america want to see assad go? he has been a very obedient guy as well as his father; a more logical ending of your scenario is an iran turkey war

      • josephphdman

        america like to see asad go because of his support to hezbollah   who the us classify them as terrorrist organization , but there is no hurry to replace him ,because the us fear an islamist state may emerge in syria  if assad fell  quickly,  until syria split, or  a guaranteed of a secular governement will follow asad , he will be there and that may take years , and  if syria split or when it does,  asad will stay a leader of his alawite state forever; the argument of a turkey iran war? it  is possible , but that is a very dangerous path because turkey is a nato member ,turkey engamgement in war with iran will drag nato into war , and that will possible lead to russia joining that  war on iran side  and world war3 will start  !!!!

        • tayyyyar10452

          mr phd;
          i bet i know you
          if you had the obligation of reading my previous blogs, you wouldnt come up with this conclusion
          when usa says you are a terrorist in middle east, it means usa is supporting you; i would be afraid when usa says yopu are her friend

  • Moe2000

    @yalibnan:disqus

    Some Good News from South Lebanon 25 trillion cubic feet of gas 3 times that of occupied Palestine enough to put Lebanon in Opec.

    Lebanese Speaker Nabih Berri has called for speeding up efforts to
    address the issue of Lebanon’s offshore natural resources, especially
    after a report, released last month by an international oil company,
    revealed that the country’s sea off South Lebanon’s coast is highly rich
    with oil reserves.

    According to the London-based daily Al-Hayat, Berri called
    on the Energy Ministry to expedite efforts to form the committee that
    would be tasked with administering the oil sector.

    The speaker was speaking during a meeting with representatives of newspapers, according to Al-Hayat.

    In turn, the Beirut newspaper As-Safir quoted Berri as
    saying that the conclusions reached by the international oil company,
    Spectrum, on October 17, during a conference in London, confirmed that
    “Lebanon’s southern sea is the sea most rich with oil reserves [in the
    region].” 

    The speaker warned against any delay in hastening efforts to take advantage of Lebanon’s natural resources.  

    Meanwhile, and according to Al-Hayat, Berri warned against closing the door on the Lebanese national dialogue sponsored by President Michel Suleiman.

    Moreover, the speaker said that “Lebanese have not learned from past”
    experiences, adding that the current political crisis in the country is
    similar to the situation following the 2006 war.

    Also Berri said that Lebanese political factions should not burn bridges

    • tayyyyar10452

      great news; maybe the M14 may want to come to see if they can steal some shares; as you know the previous prime minister before mikati, i dont want to filth my tongue by pronouncing his name, sold to cyprus part of lebanese land in the sea where petroleum is supposed to be present; thats why cyprus is going to make deals with israel to get petroleum from there; we got to fight to recuperate it back; but can you claim back what you sold; actually one argument would be valid: to indict the PM in question by theft, rendering illegal whatever money he put in his pocket for the land sold to cyprus: he just signed to the cyprus government that this piece of land, which is in lebanese waters, belongs to cyprus and not to lebanon; the money was to support the hariri family; remember hariri father, paved the sea (ballat al bahr) and bought sea land for the symbolic cent from the government when he was PM; irtit nissabin wa haramyyeh

      • 5thDrawer

        Made cents at the time … 😉
        And I suppose you also know how many inches on Leb’s side of the 20 miles it is ….

        • master09

          I do not think I have come across someone with an open mind as yours, but still others not able to read between those line, kind of get lost a little….Well we all have someone in our life to keep us awake as you have with the brother in——–law….what do you do open one ear and keep the eye lids stumpped….
          You enjoying a scotch or two.  Most keep that mind as sharp as is…..

        • 5thDrawer

          Master 09 … A scotch or two can help 😉
          It Aids the digestion after over-eating, and can be the perfectly plausible ‘excuse’ for totally passing out, which seems to offend no-one. :-)))

      • master09

        AND LIKE THE 8 IS BETTER THAN 14. They are ALL crooks every one of them….show how the differ…with proof……….  

        • tayyyyar10452

          lebanese politicians are crooks as most politicians in the world; i lived in many western countries including the states, australia and canada; honestly they are all crooks; when you got to choose among crooks, you select the less crooky one and by far, hassan nasrallah and aoun are honest persons compared to the bandits of the 14th; i know aoun and geagea personally and i worked with both of them and i know what i am talking about

        • tayyyyar10452

          i will pass on your remark of open mindness of 5th; but i can conclude how openminded you are; lol; i believe some people need some alcohol to release their knots; you know alcohol in moderation is a good truth serum; it pushes you into phase 2 of sleep where people say their own truth: this is where 5th reveals her pro hariri salafi atheistic tendency, which is her genuine colour; now, unfortunately as with most alcoholics, moderate alcohol is not enough, they need more; it is a weak personality; we can dwell on this later from the studies coming from the nederlands on the use of drugs & whether we like it or not alcohol is a drug; thus when 5th goes to toxic levels of alcohol she goes to REM (rapid eye movement) sleep hence her dreams & then dips into phase 4 of sleep with hallucinations & different non coherent ideas which unfortunately for the novice may appear, because of their contradictory nature, as open mindness; i call them open madness

        • tayyyyar10452

          drugs, a major issue in Lebanon and in the world, a topic prostituted in one of the articles on this blog serving saoudi arabia, is being nowadays advertised as a useful social aid to help soften the harshness of life of godless & salafi condom fighters; in Lebanon, hashish has always been an important financial entry which used to fill the deficit in our budget: they used to be classified by the government as unseen entries:”madakhil ghayr manzoura”. This business has been lead and protected by the syrians later on and became a maffia issue. Actually we own a piece of land around baalbeck and the syrians cut our fruit trees aged 35 years and more to make fire logs with and made that land hashish growing for use by the salafis and their hariri allies at that time(rafik hariri was one of the khizmatshis,office boys, of assad). The issue of drugs has been used and abused by the condom atheist fighters to legalise their use. Now, the netherlands has been a pioneer in that respect; the philosophy of holland, unlike that of the atheists, was based on scientific studies: people who become addicts like 5th have already a tendency to become addicts; you notice this among drugs users , among alcoholics and even cigarettes addicts. Thus they say most people would enjoy a dosis of hashish or a shot of alcohol or good habana cigar, yet only few, usually godless, will become addicts like 5th. Religious people have their drugs. Organised atheism tries to substitute the religious drug by creating an alternative religion but remains a very weak one. yet the atheists wants it as a methadone to what they think is a religious addiction while themselves they are worse religious addicts Thus i believe it is a shame to purposefully ruin the reputation of our beloved country by spreading lies about it: it is easy to destroy and to criticise; what we need is people who construct not those who destroy

    • 5thDrawer

      Doesn’t matter. No electrical generating plant to burn it in anyway.
      And they would need to actually hire a drilling-company to go for it – which would probably have some American investors in it – which would make it the worst company in the world to do business with – unless, of course, some Jews somewhere were also invested in it, which would make it a company that no-one could do business with ever. Right?
      So, it doesn’t matter. Just leave the stuff there and go for solar-panels on the mountains.

  • Moe2000

    @yalibnan:disqus

    Some Good News from South Lebanon 25 trillion cubic feet of gas 3 times that of occupied Palestine enough to put Lebanon in Opec.

    Lebanese Speaker Nabih Berri has called for speeding up efforts to
    address the issue of Lebanon’s offshore natural resources, especially
    after a report, released last month by an international oil company,
    revealed that the country’s sea off South Lebanon’s coast is highly rich
    with oil reserves.

    According to the London-based daily Al-Hayat, Berri called
    on the Energy Ministry to expedite efforts to form the committee that
    would be tasked with administering the oil sector.

    The speaker was speaking during a meeting with representatives of newspapers, according to Al-Hayat.

    In turn, the Beirut newspaper As-Safir quoted Berri as
    saying that the conclusions reached by the international oil company,
    Spectrum, on October 17, during a conference in London, confirmed that
    “Lebanon’s southern sea is the sea most rich with oil reserves [in the
    region].” 

    The speaker warned against any delay in hastening efforts to take advantage of Lebanon’s natural resources.  

    Meanwhile, and according to Al-Hayat, Berri warned against closing the door on the Lebanese national dialogue sponsored by President Michel Suleiman.

    Moreover, the speaker said that “Lebanese have not learned from past”
    experiences, adding that the current political crisis in the country is
    similar to the situation following the 2006 war.

    Also Berri said that Lebanese political factions should not burn bridges

    • tayyyyar10452

      great news; maybe the M14 may want to come to see if they can steal some shares; as you know the previous prime minister before mikati, i dont want to filth my tongue by pronouncing his name, sold to cyprus part of lebanese land in the sea where petroleum is supposed to be present; thats why cyprus is going to make deals with israel to get petroleum from there; we got to fight to recuperate it back; but can you claim back what you sold; actually one argument would be valid: to indict the PM in question by theft, rendering illegal whatever money he put in his pocket for the land sold to cyprus: he just signed to the cyprus government that this piece of land, which is in lebanese waters, belongs to cyprus and not to lebanon; the money was to support the hariri family; remember hariri father, paved the sea (ballat al bahr) and bought sea land for the symbolic cent from the government when he was PM; irtit nissabin wa haramyyeh

      • 5thDrawer

        Made cents at the time … 😉

        • master09

          I do not think I have come across someone with an open mind as yours, but still others not able to read between those line kind of get lost a little….so I 

        • 5thDrawer

          Master 09 … A scotch or two can help 😉
          It Aids the digestion after over-eating, and can be the perfectly plausible ‘excuse’ for totally passing out, which seems to offend no-one. :-)))

      • master09

        AND LIKE THE 8 IS BETTER THAN 14. They are ALL crooks every one of them….show how the differ…with proof……….  

        • tayyyyar10452

          lebanese politicians are crooks as most politicians in the world; i lived in many western countries including the states, australia and canada; honestly they are all crooks; when you got to choose among crooks, you select the less crooky one and by far, hassan nasrallah and aoun are honest persons compared to the bandits of the 14th; i know aoun and geagea personally and i worked with both of them and i know what i am talking about

        • tayyyyar10452

          i will pass on your remark of open mindness of 5th; but i can conclude how openminded you are; lol; i believe some people need some alcohol to release their knots; you know alcohol in moderation is a good serum truth; it pushes you into phase2 of sleep where people say their own truth: this is where 5th reveals her pro hariri tendency, which is her genuine colour; now, unfortunately as with most alcoholics, moderate alcohol is not enough, they need more; it is a weak personality; we can dwell on this later from the studies coming from the nederlands on the use of drugs & whether we like it or not alcohol is a drug; thus when 5th goes to toxic levels of alcohol she goes by rem (rapid eye movement) sleep hence her dreams & then dips into phase 4 of sleep with hallucinations & different non coherent ideas which unfortunately for the novice may appear, because of their contradictory nature, as open mindness; i call them open madness

        • tayyyyar10452

          drugs, a major issue in Lebanon and in the world, a topic prostituted in one of the articles on this blog serving saoudi arabia, is being nowadays advertised as a useful social aid to help soften the harshness of life of godless & salafi condom fighters; in Lebanon, hashish has always been an important financial entry which used to fill the deficit in our budget: they used to be classified by the government as as unseen entries:”madakhil ghayr manzoura”. This business has been read and protected by the syrians later on and became a maffia issue. Actually we own a piece of land around baalbeck and the syrians cut our fruit trees aged 35 years and more and made that land hashish growing for use by the salafis and their hariri allies at that time(rafik hariri was one of the khizmatshis,office boys, of assad). The issue of drugs has been used and abused by the condom atheist fighters to legalise their use. Now, the nederlands has been a pioneer in that respect; the philosophy of holland, unlike thzt of the atheists, was based on scientific studies: people who become addicts like 5th have already a tendency to become addicts; you notice this among drugs users , among alcoholics and even cigarettes addicts. Thus they say most people would enjoy a dosis of hashish or a shot of alcohol or good habana cigar, yet only few, usually godless, will become addicts like 5th. Religious people have their drugs. Organised atheism tries to substitute the religious drug by creating an alternative religion but remains a very weak one. thus i believe it is a shame to purposefully ruin the reputation of our beloved country by spreading lies about it: it is easy to destroy and to criticise; what we need is people who construct not those who destroy

    • 5thDrawer

      Doesn’t matter. No electrical generating plant to burn it in anyway.

  • Btru2u

    It’s time for Sunnis to unite under one khilafah. The Umma must abandon greed, to serve its true self interest,.it is time for Saudi turkey, Qatar , Lebanon to step up to the mark and drive the evil manipulators away.

    • 5thDrawer

      Umma-Dooma …. step up and go secular with open government and courts. Is there ONE ‘Kalif’ who could possibly be your choice? Do you have a new ‘Solomon’ in the wings?

      • tayyyyar10452

        secular in many cases can be as dangerous and fanatic as salafis, hence the frequent alliances

    • master09

      and who are the evil manipulatorsssssss  ???? is it the Jews the Christians the YAnks the shiites the, WHO..?? THE WHITES THE WOMEN   …????

    • tayyyyar10452

      dont forget the camels; soon you will be back on camels

      • tayyyyar10452

        maybe he should know the sunna are now less than 15% of the population in lebanon

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          about that… i read a comment on this site long time ago telling that in the past the population of lebanon consisted by christians and shia’s only and not sunnis. but during the othmanic occupation of lebanon many were forced to convert to sunnism. Can you confirm that? Can you perhaps provide some scientific proofs?

        • Prophettttt

          Mahdi Kenaani, In Iraq and Iran, there are few well known families(Sader,Hakim…..and many more who are not as famous) who  fled Lebanon during the ottoman rule because of prosecution and oppression by Amad Bash Aljazzar.

  • Btru2u

    It’s time for Sunnis to unite under one khilafah. The Umma must abandon greed, to serve its true self interest,.it is time for Saudi turkey, Qatar , Lebanon to step up to the mark and drive the evil manipulators away.

    • 5thDrawer

      Umma-Dooma …. step up and go secular with open government and courts. Is there ONE ‘Kalif’ who could possibly be your choice? Do you have a new ‘Solomon’ in the wings?

      • tayyyyar10452

        secular in many cases can be as dangerous and fanatic as salafis, hence the frequent alliances

    • master09

      and who are the evil manipulatorsssssss  ???? is it the Jews the Christians the YAnks the shiites the, WHO..?? THE WHITES THE WOMEN   …????

    • tayyyyar10452

      dont forget the camels; soon you will be back on campels

      • tayyyyar10452

        maybe he should know the sunna are now less than 15% of the population in lebanon

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          about that… i read a comment on this site long time ago telling that in the past the population of lebanon consisted by christians and shia’s only and not sunnis. but during the othmanic occupation of lebanon many were forced to convert to sunnismen. Can you confirm that? Can you perhaps provide some scientific proofs?

        • Prophettttt

          Mahdi Kenaani, In Iraq and Iran, there are few well known families(Sader,Hakim…..and many more who are not as famous) who  fled Lebanon during the ottoman rule because of prosecution and oppression by Amad Bash Aljazzar.

  • Btru2u

    The sound of Allahu Akbar resonates as the slogan of the uprising. This means the uprising is a Muslim uprising, and the new system will be an Muslim system, and the new constitution will be the Quran and the sunatullah walrasool. Any other Voice is minute in the scheme of things. The secularists are are trying to hijack the Muslim uprising. They have no chance. As victory for the mujahideen is in sight , the so called do gooders who call themselves peacekeepers, raise their ugly heads. They hide in cyberspace , but the reality is on the ground.

  • Btru2u

    The sound of Allahu Akbar resonates as the slogan of the uprising. This means the uprising is a Muslim uprising, and the new system will be an Muslim system, and the new constitution will be the Quran and the sunatullah walrasool. Any other Voice is minute in the scheme of things. The secularists are are trying to hijack the Muslim uprising. They have no chance. As victory for the mujahideen is in sight , the so called do gooders who call themselves peacekeepers, raise their ugly heads. They hide in cyberspace , but the reality is on the ground.

  • PeaceintheME

    Suleiman Franjieh, One of the few honest men left in Lebanon.  

  • PeaceintheME

    Suleiman Franjieh, One of the few honest men left in Lebanon.  

  • leb111

    Is it just me or everytime somebody from hiz opens their mouths shit pours out

    • tayyyyar10452

      no its just you; you got it right; something should be pouring faeces around you!

      • leb111

        Tut tut tut Spoken like a true hiz supporter

        • tayyyyar10452

          you need to differenciate between someone who likes and acknowledges and someone who is a supporter; i think you and 5th and many of the 14th of march supporters lack this wisdom

  • leb111

    Is it just me or everytime somebody from hiz opens their mouths shit pours out

    • tayyyyar10452

      no its just you; you got it right; something should be pouring faeces around you!

      • leb111

        Tut tut tut Spoken like a true hiz supporter

        • tayyyyar10452

          you need to differenciate between someone who likes and acknowledges and someone who is a supporter; i think you and 5th and many of the 14th of march supporters lack this wisdom

  • 5thDrawer

    They could have been less extreme than making an arrest based on the immediate evidence, and simply shot Samaha on the spot after getting the ‘It’s what Assad wants’ confession … several here and in Syria seem to think that’s the way to go, evidenced by the recent killing of prisoners which (amazingly) hit YouTube.
    Wonder what ‘point scale’ he used to determine that one life is 1500 times more important than any other? More of the quality BS that floats around from political mouthpieces. “The principals of Syrian president Bashar…” well evidenced here too.
    Wissam Al-Hassan worked for Lebanon and died because he applied Lebanese law and justice with equality, and is therefore a ‘martur’ of Lebanon.

    • tayyyyar10452

      you did not get it yet; it is not a fortuitious escape to youtube; they are bragging it as a great achievement; come on, wake up

      • 5thDrawer

        Oh I got it alright … it’s the same as burning down a KFC. The good old ‘in your face’ fear tactics.

  • 5thDrawer

    They could have been less extreme than making an arrest based on the immediate evidence, and simply shot Samaha on the spot after getting the ‘It’s what Assad wants’ confession … several here and in Syria seem to think that’s the way to go, evidenced by the recent killing of prisoners which (amazingly) hit YouTube.
    Wonder what ‘point scale’ he used to determine that one life is 1500 times more important than any other? More of the quality BS that floats around from political mouthpieces. “The principals of Syrian president Bashar…” well evidenced here too.
    Wissam Al-Hassan worked for Lebanon and died because he applied Lebanese law and justice with equality, and is therefore a ‘martur’ of Lebanon.

    • tayyyyar10452

      you did not get it yet; it is not a fortuitious escape to youtube; they are bragging it as a great achievement; come on, wake up

      • 5thDrawer

        Oh I got it alright … it’s the same as burning down a KFC. The good old ‘in your face’ fear tactics.

  • freevoice6616

    Mr. Mp Frangieh, why dont you wake up and look at the real picture , Assad Regime will never survive the uprising against him, the blood of 35,000  people died so far is on his hands, who ordered the killing of Wissam Al Hassan and Rafiq Hariri and others from the opposition politicians and MP’ will never susrvive, instead of keep barking to the Assad regime and his Hezbollah killers servants, you should look at doing your job as an MP and work for the interest of the Lebanese people who elected you , and to strengthen the state institutions and our national army by uncovering who really killing those politicians and opposition MP’s , who is spying on people’s phones and internet chat sites and emails, who is running a state within a state , you bark to Hezbollah who is running a state within a state and private army militia and securtiy blocks and all this BS which you turning blind eye to all that and to Syrian Assad regime who occupied and burned Lebanon for 35 years . Shame on you.

    • tayyyyar10452

      fleevoice: assad regime is staying for a long period to go; he will be weakened but he is staying; sorry to deceive you; he still have a role to play; assad killed hariri, yes; but al hassan i do not know; as far as tapping phones, emails and internet, al hassan was the greatest specialist in; shi3bat al ma3loumat spies even on ministers and generals and does not even have to report to the interior minister, it relates directly to the prime minister and some classified information even the prime minister is not allowed to see; a state within the state

  • freevoice6616

    Mr. Mp Frangieh, why dont you wake up and look at the real picture , Assad Regime will never survive the uprising against him, the blood of 35,000  people died so far is on his hands, who ordered the killing of Wissam Al Hassan and Rafiq Hariri and others from the opposition politicians and MP’ will never susrvive, instead of keep barking to the Assad regime and his Hezbollah killers servants, you should look at doing your job as an MP and work for the interest of the Lebanese people who elected you , and to strengthen the state institutions and our national army by uncovering who really killing those politicians and opposition MP’s , who is spying on people’s phones and internet chat sites and emails, who is running a state within a state , you bark to Hezbollah who is running a state within a state and private army militia and securtiy blocks and all this BS which you turning blind eye to all that and to Syrian Assad regime who occupied and burned Lebanon for 35 years . Shame on you.

    • tayyyyar10452

      fleevoice: assad regime is staying for a long period to go; he will be weakened but he is staying; sorry to deceive you; he still have a role to play; assad killed hariri, yes; but al hassan i do not know; as far as tapping phones, emails and internet, al hassan was the greatest specialist in; shi3bat al ma3loumat spies even on ministers and generals and does not even have to report to the interior minister, it relates directly to the prime minister and some classified information even the prime minister is not allowed to see; a state within the state

  • MLEETA, Lebanon (AP) — A maze of military bunkers and tunnels carved into a mountain near the border with Israel hints at why the Shi’ite Hezbollah movement is unlikely to lose its grip in Lebanon despite the setbacks it has suffered because of the civil war in neighboring Syria.
    Mleeta, a former staging ground for Hezbollah’s battles with Israel that has been turned into a sprawling tourist attraction, is emblematic of the base of its power: its arsenal and military prowess.
    That base ultimately remains firm, even if Hezbollah has faced sharper criticism among Lebanese for its siding with Syria’s regime in the civil war and even if it has reportedly suffered some reduction in aid from its top patron, Iran, squeezed by Western sanctions. Besides its weapons, Hezbollah can also still count on an extensive patronage network, carefully nurtured alliances with religious minorities and alternative sources of funding.
    Its backing among Lebanon’s Shi’ite Muslims — who edge out Sunnis and Christians as the country’s largest sectarian community — remains strong, and it also dominates the government in place since January 2011.
    Even one of the militia’s most outspoken critics in the Shi’ite community said he expects Hezbollah to remain dominant for the time being, even as support for it is eroding.
    “Hebzollah still has the means of power, which is weapons, money and the support of the Lebanese government,” said Ali al-Amin, a former top cleric in the southern city of Tyre who said he was expelled from his office by Hezbollah agents in 2008.
    Senior Shi’ite cleric Ali al-Amin, in Beirut, harshly criticized Hezbollah for acting as Iran’s proxy during his interview. (photo credit: AP/Karin Laub)
    Certainly, Hezbollah is facing harder times. Misgivings have been growing among some Lebanese that the group is a destabilizing force because of a series of events in recent years. It was implicated by international investigators in the 2005 assassination of Prime Minister Rafik Hariri — though it denies a role. It fought a devastating war with Israel in 2006. Its fighters overran the streets of Beirut in a 2008 power struggle. And now it has rushed to back Syrian President Bashar Assad since the uprising against his rule began 19 months ago.
    “Politically, they are on the ropes,” analyst Matthew Levitt of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy said of Hezbollah. “You see a willingness to challenge Hezbollah that you have never seen before.”
    The latest political crisis in Lebanon, set off by the assassination of a top intelligence chief by an Oct. 19 car bomb, highlighted both Hezbollah’s entrenchment and the backlash against it.
    The country’s Western-backed opposition, the March 14 alliance, has blamed Hezbollah and Syria for the killing of Gen. Wissam al-Hassan, a leading anti-Syrian voice, and has demanded the Hezbollah-dominated government resign. Hezbollah has denied involvement in the attack.
    “It’s a mafia state,” Nadim Koteich, a prominent March 14 activist and TV talk show host, said of Hezbollah’s domination of Lebanon. Opposition figures allege al-Hassan was targeted because he uncovered information about purported Syrian attempts to further destabilize Lebanon with the help of Lebanese collaborators.
    But at the same time, the Sunni-dominated March 14 has failed to galvanize supporters. After the general’s Oct. 21 funeral, only a few dozen March 14 activists tried to storm the castle-like Cabinet building, which has since been declared a no-go zone, ringed by barbed wire barriers and rows of army trucks.
    Some blame lack of leadership. Former Prime Minister Saad Hariri, leader of Lebanon’s Sunni Muslim camp and son of Rafik Hariri, has spent most of his time in Paris since Hezbollah brought down his pro-Western ruling coalition.
    Since last month’s assassination, US and European diplomats have met with Lebanon’s leaders and called for stability. US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Lebanese people deserve a government that is not a proxy for outside forces, a clear shot at Hezbollah, but she did not signal further practical moves.
    That suggests the West does not see Hezbollah’s predicament as an opening for challenging the group and wants to avoid a political crisis in Lebanon at a time when it’s preoccupied with the Syria conflict, said Bilal Saab, an analyst at the Monterey Institute for International Studies.
    “There will be a time when Hezbollah will be confronted, but this is not it,” he said.
    Hezbollah’s media office in Beirut declined requests for interviews.
    In response to domestic criticism, Hezbollah often plays the “resistance card,” trying to draw political legitimacy from its combative stance toward Israel. The “Resistance Tourist Landmark” in the village of Mleeta is an outdoor shrine to Hezbollah’s battle against Israel’s 18-year military presence in Lebanon, which ended in 2000 when Israeli forces withdrew from a zone they controlled in the south.
    A Hezbollah activist who serves as a volunteer tour guide at the site spoke dismissively of Lebanon’s opposition.
    “If you take a look at their numbers, they are very weak and small,” he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was expressing his personal view, not Hezbollah’s official position.
    The site, which was turned into a resistance museum in 2010, includes trenches covered by camouflage netting, a 200-meter-long tunnel and bunkers used by fighters at the time.
    In one huge victory tableau, an Israeli Merkava tank is half-submerged into the ground. Hebrew letters in stone next to it read, “the Lebanese mud,” a mocking reference to the phrase Israelis themselves use to describe their costly military entanglement across their northern border.
    In its latest show of taking on Israel, the militia sent an Iranian-made drone on a reconnaissance flight over Israel earlier this month.
    Israel shot down the plane near its Dimona nuclear reactor in the south, but an Iranian lawmaker later said Tehran was able to obtain images of Israeli military bases.
    Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said he’d send more drones, boasting that “we can reach any place” in Israel.
    In the 2006 war, Hezbollah forces battled Israel’s military to a standstill, winning it support across the Arab world, even among Sunnis. That has diminished because of the Syria conflict. But among some, its resistance credentials trump its alliance with a dictator trying to crush a Sunni-led rebellion among some.
    That’s particularly the case in southern Lebanon, where residents still nurse bitter memories of Israel’s invasion in the early 1980s.
    In Sidon, a Sunni stronghold in the mainly Shi’ite south, Mohieddine Sin, a 56-year-old Sunni smoking a waterpipe in a boardwalk cafe, said he supports Hezbollah regardless of its actions in Syria. “Whoever is against Israel, we are with them,” he said.
    “Either you are with America or you are with the resistance,” added fellow Sunni Fadi Saed, 47, owner of a Sidon household goods store in Sidon.
    Hezbollah would suffer a serious blow if Assad were to fall, but likely not a fatal one.
    It has done well by Lebanon’s Shi’ites and built alliances with Christian and Druze politicians. The militia can likely count on continued support from Iran, which would want to protect its strategic proxy on Israel’s doorstep, particularly if Assad is toppled. And even if a post-Assad leadership were to prevent more Iranian weapons from being shipped to Hezbollah, the militia already has a huge arsenal of tens of thousands of missiles, according to Israeli estimates.
    Saab, the analyst, said Hezbollah remains in good shape, provided it does not get into another major war with Israel.
    “Hezbollah is going to come out on top, not matter what,” he said.
    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.

  • MLEETA, Lebanon (AP) — A maze of military bunkers and tunnels carved into a mountain near the border with Israel hints at why the Shi’ite Hezbollah movement is unlikely to lose its grip in Lebanon despite the setbacks it has suffered because of the civil war in neighboring Syria.
    Mleeta, a former staging ground for Hezbollah’s battles with Israel that has been turned into a sprawling tourist attraction, is emblematic of the base of its power: its arsenal and military prowess.
    That base ultimately remains firm, even if Hezbollah has faced sharper criticism among Lebanese for its siding with Syria’s regime in the civil war and even if it has reportedly suffered some reduction in aid from its top patron, Iran, squeezed by Western sanctions. Besides its weapons, Hezbollah can also still count on an extensive patronage network, carefully nurtured alliances with religious minorities and alternative sources of funding.
    Its backing among Lebanon’s Shi’ite Muslims — who edge out Sunnis and Christians as the country’s largest sectarian community — remains strong, and it also dominates the government in place since January 2011.
    Even one of the militia’s most outspoken critics in the Shi’ite community said he expects Hezbollah to remain dominant for the time being, even as support for it is eroding.
    “Hebzollah still has the means of power, which is weapons, money and the support of the Lebanese government,” said Ali al-Amin, a former top cleric in the southern city of Tyre who said he was expelled from his office by Hezbollah agents in 2008.
    Senior Shi’ite cleric Ali al-Amin, in Beirut, harshly criticized Hezbollah for acting as Iran’s proxy during his interview. (photo credit: AP/Karin Laub)
    Certainly, Hezbollah is facing harder times. Misgivings have been growing among some Lebanese that the group is a destabilizing force because of a series of events in recent years. It was implicated by international investigators in the 2005 assassination of Prime Minister Rafik Hariri — though it denies a role. It fought a devastating war with Israel in 2006. Its fighters overran the streets of Beirut in a 2008 power struggle. And now it has rushed to back Syrian President Bashar Assad since the uprising against his rule began 19 months ago.
    “Politically, they are on the ropes,” analyst Matthew Levitt of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy said of Hezbollah. “You see a willingness to challenge Hezbollah that you have never seen before.”
    The latest political crisis in Lebanon, set off by the assassination of a top intelligence chief by an Oct. 19 car bomb, highlighted both Hezbollah’s entrenchment and the backlash against it.
    The country’s Western-backed opposition, the March 14 alliance, has blamed Hezbollah and Syria for the killing of Gen. Wissam al-Hassan, a leading anti-Syrian voice, and has demanded the Hezbollah-dominated government resign. Hezbollah has denied involvement in the attack.
    “It’s a mafia state,” Nadim Koteich, a prominent March 14 activist and TV talk show host, said of Hezbollah’s domination of Lebanon. Opposition figures allege al-Hassan was targeted because he uncovered information about purported Syrian attempts to further destabilize Lebanon with the help of Lebanese collaborators.
    But at the same time, the Sunni-dominated March 14 has failed to galvanize supporters. After the general’s Oct. 21 funeral, only a few dozen March 14 activists tried to storm the castle-like Cabinet building, which has since been declared a no-go zone, ringed by barbed wire barriers and rows of army trucks.
    Some blame lack of leadership. Former Prime Minister Saad Hariri, leader of Lebanon’s Sunni Muslim camp and son of Rafik Hariri, has spent most of his time in Paris since Hezbollah brought down his pro-Western ruling coalition.
    Since last month’s assassination, US and European diplomats have met with Lebanon’s leaders and called for stability. US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Lebanese people deserve a government that is not a proxy for outside forces, a clear shot at Hezbollah, but she did not signal further practical moves.
    That suggests the West does not see Hezbollah’s predicament as an opening for challenging the group and wants to avoid a political crisis in Lebanon at a time when it’s preoccupied with the Syria conflict, said Bilal Saab, an analyst at the Monterey Institute for International Studies.
    “There will be a time when Hezbollah will be confronted, but this is not it,” he said.
    Hezbollah’s media office in Beirut declined requests for interviews.
    In response to domestic criticism, Hezbollah often plays the “resistance card,” trying to draw political legitimacy from its combative stance toward Israel. The “Resistance Tourist Landmark” in the village of Mleeta is an outdoor shrine to Hezbollah’s battle against Israel’s 18-year military presence in Lebanon, which ended in 2000 when Israeli forces withdrew from a zone they controlled in the south.
    A Hezbollah activist who serves as a volunteer tour guide at the site spoke dismissively of Lebanon’s opposition.
    “If you take a look at their numbers, they are very weak and small,” he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was expressing his personal view, not Hezbollah’s official position.
    The site, which was turned into a resistance museum in 2010, includes trenches covered by camouflage netting, a 200-meter-long tunnel and bunkers used by fighters at the time.
    In one huge victory tableau, an Israeli Merkava tank is half-submerged into the ground. Hebrew letters in stone next to it read, “the Lebanese mud,” a mocking reference to the phrase Israelis themselves use to describe their costly military entanglement across their northern border.
    In its latest show of taking on Israel, the militia sent an Iranian-made drone on a reconnaissance flight over Israel earlier this month.
    Israel shot down the plane near its Dimona nuclear reactor in the south, but an Iranian lawmaker later said Tehran was able to obtain images of Israeli military bases.
    Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said he’d send more drones, boasting that “we can reach any place” in Israel.
    In the 2006 war, Hezbollah forces battled Israel’s military to a standstill, winning it support across the Arab world, even among Sunnis. That has diminished because of the Syria conflict. But among some, its resistance credentials trump its alliance with a dictator trying to crush a Sunni-led rebellion among some.
    That’s particularly the case in southern Lebanon, where residents still nurse bitter memories of Israel’s invasion in the early 1980s.
    In Sidon, a Sunni stronghold in the mainly Shi’ite south, Mohieddine Sin, a 56-year-old Sunni smoking a waterpipe in a boardwalk cafe, said he supports Hezbollah regardless of its actions in Syria. “Whoever is against Israel, we are with them,” he said.
    “Either you are with America or you are with the resistance,” added fellow Sunni Fadi Saed, 47, owner of a Sidon household goods store in Sidon.
    Hezbollah would suffer a serious blow if Assad were to fall, but likely not a fatal one.
    It has done well by Lebanon’s Shi’ites and built alliances with Christian and Druze politicians. The militia can likely count on continued support from Iran, which would want to protect its strategic proxy on Israel’s doorstep, particularly if Assad is toppled. And even if a post-Assad leadership were to prevent more Iranian weapons from being shipped to Hezbollah, the militia already has a huge arsenal of tens of thousands of missiles, according to Israeli estimates.
    Saab, the analyst, said Hezbollah remains in good shape, provided it does not get into another major war with Israel.
    “Hezbollah is going to come out on top, not matter what,” he said.
    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.