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Patriarch al-Rai blames politicians for Lebanon crises

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patriarch Rai during Sunay massCommenting on the garbage crisis and yesterday’s ‘You Stink’ group  protest in downtown Beirut , Maronite  Patriarch Beshara al-Rai said on Sunday during the Sunday mass in Diman :”The tragic situation we are in is the result of consumerist materialism and politics at the expense of the rise of the state, NNA reported

“These are the personal goals, materials and policies that have blocked the election of a president for a year and five months, and thereafter, the work of Parliament and threaten to block the government. These were also behind the crimes, security chaos, corruption and misappropriation of public funds. This has led to depriving citizens of their most basic rights,” he  added.

“It is for these reasons that legitimate and fair popular protests were launched by youth and civil society in the capital and those of the countries of the Diaspora. It is unacceptable to ignore the demands of the protesters or to divert their main objective,” said Rai, focusing on the goal of the demonstrators as honest and just politicians who work for the good of the country in legal ways.

Rai concluded on Sunday that the immediate election of a president, according to constitution , is the only way out of the crisis.

 

 

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165 responses to “Patriarch al-Rai blames politicians for Lebanon crises”

  1. Andre Avatar
    Andre

    Yeah, these politicians are the ones that exploit these movements to advance personal agendas. See MB in Egypt.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      See MB in Syria 2011..Rai was rigth.

      1. O Avatar
        O

        Rai said you are shite

      2. O Avatar
        O

        Edit whore at it again

  2. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    Blow a goat, beirut(is) have for long been calling on the closing of naameh waste dump in order to fortify beirut and keep the siyaah coming in!
    Politicians in this case religous figures who are treating this as a new thing have hidden agendas! Brainwashing at it’s best

    1. O Avatar
      O

      What is a siyaah?
      I ask coz I honestly don’t know

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Tourist.
        This issue is more then 20 years old people of beirut have been demanding the closure of waste dumps in their area.
        Their is a strong ideology within the beirut christian communities (and you will find some on this site) who don’t consider themselves arabs, even though arabic is the primary language of lebanon.
        They consider themselves as phoenician, with all things happening in the middle east from the first civil war, those christians have had an identity problem so they have tried to carve out their own path (being a minority ) and sold themselves and countrymen and women (literally beirut was and still is the brothel of the middle east) in return to somehow have bragging rights that they are apart of something bigger and better.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Reasonable as I said you’re not… DNA studies have confirmed that not all the Lebanese are Arabs… Americans speak English it does not make them British, Brazilians speak Portuguese it does not make them Portuguese and so on… Besides the Levantine Arabic is by far the language of the written Arabic which stayed behind because of your stupid adherence to the archaic language of the Koran.
          Go blow a goat indeed…
          A good third of the Lebanese ARE Phoenicians and there is nothing you and your ISIS likes can do to erase history despite the fact that your bearded coreligionists monkeys are blowing the real identity of the land and its people to bits.
          May be you should dig around your neighborhood a little or are you afraid the sarcophagus of your true ancestors will look you in the eyes and tell you we ARE Aramaic Phoenicians. Go visit the Beirut museum for a lesson in history you dumb ass and take your Koran with you so you use its pages to clean the dust of Arabian camels from the glass windows covering the PHOENICIAN artifacts.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Bovine feaces, real mature and not surprised by your personal attacks and mud-slinging.

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The truth hurt? Carry on…

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            You would know best 😉

          4. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            What I know is that you and your mufti and every mufti on this planet is pig feces.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Atleast i have something to claim habibi. By your logic, you are neither arab(which i bet is your primary language) nor are you english.
            You must feel lost which explains your narcissism.
            Hooroo you fake patriot.

          6. O Avatar
            O

            I love your comebacks.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ..and Majoos “shioul” comebacks, now you’re in paradise..

          8. O Avatar
            O

            Run along and play in traffic. Xoxoxo

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            There is allah who will question him. I can’t judge a crazy person.
            Though i do take solace that i will meet him at yowm al qiyaama.

            How you been?

          10. O Avatar
            O

            I’m good thank you. How are you?
            I’ve missed you on here, yours is one of the very few voices that is reasonable. Unlike certain others on here. Good to have you back

          11. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            retard… there is no yowm al qiyaama. For you you are going straight to HELL. Look at the mirror and you will find a pig.

          12. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Couldn’t resist but troll your troll.
            No yowm al qiyaama but there is hell? Facepalm!

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            As I said padaboum:

            Bye bye

            http://www.annahar.com/article/264294-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%B3%D9%8A-%D8%A2%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%87-%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7

            http://www.annahar.com/article/264126-%D9%87%D9%84-%D8%AA%D8%AA%D8%AF%D8%AE%D9%84-%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D8%B9%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_daily

          14. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            As I said straight after you death your soul to hell. no qiyaama.

          15. shioul Avatar
            shioul

            Iblees Khamenei wants Lebanon to become a failed state and he is about to succeed.

            The shit-ite terror group Hezbollah has hijacked the country’s ongoing garbage crisis in an effort to overthrow the government and seize power.

            Hezbollah is exploiting the “You Stink” protests and civil disturbances that have arisen as a result, including clashes between Lebanese citizens and the country’s security forces, to topple the government of Prime Minister Tammam Salam, who leans towards the pro-Western March 14 Alliance.

            Since May 2014, Salam, a Sunni Muslim, has served as acting president of Lebanon, due to political paralysis created by Hezbollah and its political allies, Michel Aoun’s Free Patriotic Movement and the Shi’a Amal Party, preventing the election of a new president, normally a Maronite Christian.

            The goal of Hezbollah, the Lebanese politicians told Al-Arab, is “to create a power vacuum amid the [Lebanese] parliament’s failure to elect a new president who is acceptable to everyone.”

            The proof of this is in the fact that at the beginning of the “You Stink” protests, Lebanese citizens critical of the government’s inability to deal with the country’s sanitation needs were holding up signs to this effect. But, as soon as Hezbollah operatives joined in, placards suddenly appeared, calling for the toppling of the government, with a focus on two of Hezbollah’s political foes — Prime Minister Salam, and Interior Minister Nohad Machnouk.

            Machnouk is a member of the “Future Bloc” political coalition, led by former Prime Minister and current Minister of Parliament Saad Hariri, the son of the late Rafik Hariri, whom Hezbollah has been accused of assassinating.

            Salam’s government, which includes rival Lebanese parties from both the pro-Western March 14 camp and Hezbollah and its political allies, has avoided a complete vacuum in its executive branch, but has been so hampered by internecine strife that it struggles to reach even the most basic decisions, even when it comes to forging a plan to deal with Beirut’s waste-disposal crisis.

            According to the report, Hezbollah has repeatedly attempted to exploit this paralysis, particularly with the trash crisis, to highlight the impotence of the government and subtly present itself as a viable alternative.

            Last week, MP Mohammad Raad, the head of Hezbollah’s Loyalty to the Resistance parliamentary bloc, criticized the Lebanese government’s ability to tackle important issues. He said that political parties that are unable to resolve so basic a problem as garbage disposal could not possibly deal with greater matters, such as war and peace, particularly when pertaining to Israel.

            “Is it reasonable that a country in the world cannot find a solution to its garbage crisis?” asked Raad rhetorically during a speech he delivered in the southern town of Ain Qana.

            “The crisis only exists in Lebanon, and the reason is that there is a crisis of splitting shares and the presence of greed and rottenness inside state institutions,” he said. “The state is too weak to be able to address a garbage crisis.”

            The lawmaker said certain political parties in the government are asking the people to grant them “an authorization for deciding war and peace with the Israeli enemy.”

            But, he asked, “If you can’t resolve a waste crisis, how will you be able to resolve a war crisis or to confront the enemy that is backed by all countries in the world?”

          16. O Avatar
            O

            How come I’m not surprised that hezbo is hijacking a legitimate protest.

          17. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Very old method. Be armed to the teeth, disarm the opposition and swap hugs and kisses, drive your allies broke and gather them all in one place and claim superiority and let the opposition know any bullets you shoot to protect your country will be coming out of your own pockets because the “state” is in debt.

          18. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ..and Israel narcissism? Of course, now the patriots Saudi are allies with Israel: US darling.
            Beyrouth was a brothel because Saudis made Beyrouth their brothel..:-)

            “Roughly 60,000 American Jews live in West Bank settlements, where they account for 15 percent of the settler population, according to figures revealed Thursday by an Oxford University scholar and expert on this population”.

            http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/implicated-settlement-thought?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_

          19. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Israeli dogs of hell. The khaleej have their own systemic imperialism to answer too. Their politics aswell has not evolved, thanks to the west who give power to tyrants and invasions for material benefits.

          20. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You have zilch to claim… I am Lebanese period. My language is Lebanese. I can produce a dictionary of words used by the Lebanese that are not in the Arabic qaamous.

            To erase a history of a people who existed long before the Arab expansion is a crime. You are no different than the zionists who claim there are no Palestinians. I value the diversity of Lebanon but it is you and your coreligionists who want no history, blowing all our heritage destroying palmyra among other places:

            http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/31/middleeast/palmyra-temple-damaged/index.html

            and putting one color an Arab sunni color on the land.

            As I said: we will win because the conscience of humanity is with us. Your evil is coming to an end.

          21. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Listen here you troll, nobody is erasing your history. My religon teaches me to preserve it. It’s you who is claiming the moral high ground getting all worked up and taking things out of context with your white washed history.
            Phoenicians are nomore, bah buh bye, yes there are some that can claim lineage or speak their language it does not make them phoenician gosh.
            I am Australian my primary language is english, therefore i am english, my parents are lebanese their primary language is arabic, there jed l jed is kurdish his jed is phoenician and it goes all the way back to noah (a.s)

            So stop your borderline blabbering and trying to fit me into your tunnel view vision of the world not all muslims are isis not all christians are IRA

          22. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            good so go play with an Australian troll and leave us Lebanese alone.

          23. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Go clean up lebanon you fake lebanese patriot.

          24. O Avatar
            O

            “My language is Lebanese”

            Your language is Arabic! Full stop!
            Don’t create non existent languages!
            Americans speak English with a American dialect. That doesn’t mean they speak American! Idiot!
            Meaning you speak Arabic with a Lebanese dialect but it is still Arabic.
            Btw I love how you had no comeback with any true “studies”. And how you want me to google your lies. And I also noticed that geometrically misaligned had no problem with your religious bigotry, in fact it was the opposite, he/it actually encouraged you. That makes that son of a slag just as guilty as you. Typical Christian values

          25. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Arabic came from Phoenician alphabet..illiterate..

          26. O Avatar
            O

            “yes american (sic) speak American English”
            You dumb slag, you just proved what i said. Namely that cannibal speaks lebanese ARABIC.
            Thanks you daft mare. xoxo :)))))))))
            And typical Sunni and jewish hater, never miss an opportunity to display your shite bigotry.

          27. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            O’ head block. ARABIC came from Phoenician alphabet..did that ISIS cannibal inspire you?
            Stop your archaic parroting propaganda (nothing intelligent to say) illiterate O’l’O.
            Tell that to Sunni ISIS killing Sunnis
            I don’t hate Sunni and Jews i hate ISIS and Zionists. You defend ISIS and hate Christians.

          28. O Avatar
            O

            Stop your lies you lying daft mare. You attacked Sunnis and Jews way before the birth of Isis.
            And keep repeating your false accusations. They would be believable if you provide evidence. Lol you should also post that pic of you holding three fingers up. Just to dispel any rumors about your honesty and integrity.
            Now comeback hinding.

          29. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Haha …no evidence will touch a brick wall..i have tons of evidence.

          30. O Avatar
            O

            Lol but you were so quick to provide evidence relating to Phoenician language. What happened? Did you get evidence shy? Or maybe there’s other reasons you can’t provide evidence

          31. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Provide evidence of what..

          32. O Avatar
            O

            Lol you’re playing the “me no understandee englizee” game. What a loser

          33. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            If you insist..

            “O – O • 2 months ago
            Fuck off geo you dirty underhanded Christian loser. The fact you’re impersonating O proves the hypocrisy and dirty tactics of your religious beliefs”

            O – Hannibal • 2 months ago
            You disgusting Christian slag

            O – 5thDrawer • 2 months ago
            Of course a Christian whore would like that one

            O – Patience2 • 2 months ago
            You occupy yourself with a dildo of Jesus

            O – Hannibal • 2 months ago
            whats wrong sweetie, you can’t deny your Jesus and God was a murderous violent hypocrite?

            O – Hannibal • 2 months ago
            Yes keyboard warrior. Whenever you want. I promise I will bitch slap you and send you back to your priest so he can rape you some more..

          34. O Avatar
            O

            Lol you are so dumb. What you copy/pasted is me attacking Christianity. NOT defending Isis. Dumb slag

          35. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Exactly …the ISIS issue is all over everybody criticized you for it.
            Enough for me. What a boring crazy glue cow meuuuuh

          36. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I love you Hind… <3

          37. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Hey don’t mess my with stuff.. lol

          38. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            she love you not…you are bad boy..she love me.

          39. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I can dissect your lack of knowledge to non existent pieces…
            Arabic evolved from proto-Phoenician… There are Phoenician / Lebanese in Cyprus who still speak Phoenician and the maltese language is Phoenician… It is so close to Arabic that you may think it is Arabic.
            Tell me ya aflaton:
            Is there a difference between:
            2emee (Lebanese / Aramaic) for mom
            or 2oumii (Arabic)
            of course both words are still used but the former IS NOT Arabic you dumb fu@k

          40. O Avatar
            O

            Lol did you burst a blood vessel? :)))) xoxoxo

          41. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Good eep going, sooner or later you will unintentionally clinically deconstruct your own narrative and i be there to remind you of the academic suicide being spewed.

            Explain to the crowd phoenician ethics, lifestyle, geopolitics and modernity. (Before you go ape shit) i am not denying the role of the phoenician. I am challenging the relevance of labelling yourself phonecian, when clearly we have gone above and beyond how arabised lebanese are.

          42. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I repeat (since you dorkhead refuse to hear) I am not Phoenician…. I am a non-Arab Lebanese… now ruu7 neklak chi jamal.

          43. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            K thanks mayte

          44. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I have nothing against you… You should know that. I am angry at the same bull that keeps repeating itself over and over again. I could care less how you worship. I care that Sunnis and Shias of MY country are siding with the regional Iran/Saudi struggle. I am sick and tired of Lebanon being dragged into the wars of others. I am a scientist who looks at evidence… I tested my DNA and wished I were a Phoenician just because my heroes were always the Easterns (Hannibal) vs. Westerns (Rome). It turned out that the evidence did not support that. I carry the WES gene which made road into Lebanon through waves including Greek, Roman, Crusader, and Ottoman which was built on the Eastern Roman Byzantine empire. I value diversity. If by any chance you want to know your ancestry it is simple… A simple swab of the cheek can reveal where your ancestors came from. I was curious. A friend of mine a sunni from Sidon tested his DNA and turned out to be a J2 Phoenician (or local if you wish)… A Christian friend in Tripoli (my wife is from there) tested his DNA and he turned out to be a J1 Arab. So what? He is still my friend (although I could not help make fun of him). Lebanon is a cradle of civilizations… Centuries of wealthy history and it is being wiped out purposely by criminals so we no longer have an identity. We are our history. I do not want to carry any other flag BUT the Lebanese flag… No Iranian, No Saudi, No Palestinian, No French, No American… I want to have a peaceful country away from the craziness of the countries of the middle east where every one including the atheists are represented.

          45. O Avatar
            O

            “Hannibal Reasonableman
            2 days ago
            nothing but dust will be left of you as soon as the planet wakes up to your destructive cult…
            1.5 billion jouhanam bound bearded filthy monkeys…”

            But you have nothing against him.

          46. O Avatar
            O

            Idiot, we are not talking about the evolution of language but about this “”My language is Lebanese””!
            Please tell me where I can find the Lebanese alphabet ya bihmm

          47. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            A language does not need an alphabet but since you asked you dumb fu@ck here you go:

          48. O Avatar
            O

            Lol you are so sad. Is that your Lebanese language alphabet? Lol you should ask for a refund on that degree.

          49. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “Canaanite group known as the Phoenicians came to dominate the coasts of Syria, Lebanon and south west Turkey from the 13th century BC, founding city states such as Tyre, Sidon, Byblos Simyra, Arwad, Berytus (Beirut), Antioch and Aradus, eventually spreading their influence throughout the Mediterranean, including building colonies in Malta, Sicily, the Iberian peninsula (modern Spain), and the coasts of North Africa, founding the major city state of Carthage (in modern Tunisia) in the 9th century BC.

            The Phoenicians created the Phoenician alphabet in the 12th century BC, which would eventually supersede Cuneiform. Phoenician became one of the most widely used writing systems, spread by Phoenician merchants across the Mediterranean world and beyond, where it evolved and was assimilated by many other cultures. The still extant Aramaic alphabet, a modified form of Phoenician script, was the ancestor of modern Hebrew, Syriac/Assyrian and Arab scripts, stylistic variants and descendants of the Aramaic script. The Greek alphabet (and by extension its descendants such as the Latin, the Cyrillic and the Egyptian Coptic scripts), was a direct successor of Phoenician, though certain letter values were changed to represent vowels. Old Italic, Anatolian, Armenian, Georgian and Paleohispanic scriptsare also descendant of Phoenician script”.

          50. vs Avatar
            vs

            Fool, You even have not your PC support for Phoenician script
            (“not your business”) what are you speaking about?

          51. O Avatar
            O

            You dumb daft mare! We are not talking about the history of language but about what cannibal CURRENTLY barks. Dumb shite daft mare get back under the house and stfu! Evading whore from the cave of nasty.

          52. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3UOB3uA1HE

          53. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Well put Hind… You rock. (shhhhhh now O will get jealous) 😉

          54. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yes you are right Phoenician is an ancient language long before Arabic.

            Shame I can’t find any source on a “Palestinian language” 😛

          55. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Shame israels history does not exist 100 years ago and will also be short lived modern failure ya sahyuni

          56. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Please don’t interpret my comment as pro-Israel, I don’t give a crap when Israel existed. My comments are more anti-Palestinian lies and their fabricated history.

          57. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Im sure you were not being pro israel, my comment was lazy since it’s really hard not to interpret it any other way since you have already given up your position before this comment. Plus the agenda thing only adds to the systemic thought policing by israeli settlers.

          58. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Palestinians are the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries, and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab due to Arabization of the region.

            The Greek toponym Palaistínē (Παλαιστίνη), with which the Arabic Filastin (فلسطين) is cognate, first occurs in the work of the 5th century BCE Greek historian Herodotus, where it denotes generally the coastal land from Phoenicia down to Egypt. Herodotus also employs the term as an ethnonym, as when he speaks of the ‘Syrians of Palestine’ or ‘Palestinian-Syrians’. Herodotus makes no distinction between the Jews and other inhabitants of Palestine. The Greek word bears comparison to a congeries of ancient ethnonyms andtoponyms. In Ancient Egyptian Peleset/Purusati has been conjectured to refer to the “Sea Peoples”.
            Among Semitic languages, Assyrian Palastu generally refers to an undefined area.
            Biblical Hebrew’s cognate word Plištim, is usually translated Philistines.

          59. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You punk cook
            Both Palestinians and Hebrews spoke Phoenician which became Aramaic… It was the lingua franca of the land. 😛

          60. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I went to Paris for the weekend, wish I spoke French lol.

          61. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Hind can teach you… 😛

          62. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            That’s true… hmmm fancy some Burgundy Snails in garlic? 😛

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0905704d4047ea09216b42a30f5caf78f6350d0fe1c78ed33c4b9e5c9f6ca940.jpg

          63. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Did you cook the escargot only 2 half? 😛

          64. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol its at a restaurant, and yes shared it with a friend.. I’m not having 12 snails for myself :)P

          65. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Bad for your liver ..

          66. Po onecian Avatar
            Po onecian

            Phoenician – Lebanese Christians and Shites: A Big Myth Not An Ethnicity But A Spiritual State (A Lie Repeated To Alienate The Real Canaanites, The Sunnis And Orthodox)

            There is a controversial myth in Lebanon concerning the ancestral origins of the Lebanese people. The myth says that the Lebanese are descended from the ‘Phoenicians’. It is controversial because today Lebanon is made up of people from very different origins, resulting in a complex mosaic of ethnicities, cultures and faith traditions.

            How can a nation comprising Canaanites, Arabs, Syriacs, Assyrians, Armenians, Turks, Kurds, Copts… who are Christian and Muslim – Sunni, Catholic, Druze, Orthodox, Shiite – possibly claim to be descendants of one people: the Phoenicians, who are historically none other than the Canaanites?

            Nowadays, very few would claim this as historical fact. A prominent Lebanese Christian journalist: the late Ghassan Tueni, touches on this in his book A War on Behalf of Others about the war in Lebanon between 1975 and 1990. Writing about Lebanon’s ‘identity crisis’ he observes, ironically, that the Christians and Shiites who most insist on this hypothesis have the least claim to Phoenician ancestry: their origins lie in Mid-Syria, Armenia, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. Meanwhile those who most fiercely opposed it (due to their pro-Arab affiliations) are Sunnis and Orthodox whose ancestors have lived along the Lebanese coast for thousands of years, and are therefore more likely linked to Canaanite-Phoenician origins.

            The culture, achievements and merchant activities of the Canaanites is the subject of much historical research. What interests me is why they were called ‘Phoenicians’ and why these questions are still alive today.

            In fact they never died. The explanation is in the very name: the Phoenix is a mythological bird who never dies, and is constantly reborn from the ashes.

            What’s important, then, is not the link to Phoenicia through blood line, but the spiritual link to its very essence.

            The variety of historical monuments in Lebanon shows how many different civilizations have each in turn occupied this land. The very mention of the word ‘occupation’ conveys a meaning of destruction and reconstruction. With destruction comes loss, separation, pain, death… while with reconstruction comes a new life, beauty, freshness…

            This is exactly what happens to any people who choose live in Lebanon. Once you settle here, you have to be ready to accept losing everything, constantly, without any warning. But you also have a limitless bank account of hope for new beginnings.

            Whether or not you are descended from Canaanites, here, you ‘become’ a Phoenician. This is not an ethnicity but a spiritual state.

          67. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            As if barabie never ever attacked anybody..all are bigots except Sunni.

          68. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hind im sick of this you vs us mentality. There is a cesspit of isms in this forum and it is asif im reading the same sh!t over and over.
            In Australia we all stick together, lebs, italians, greeks, maories, ethiopian, somaliyan, asian, mexican, paki against this sort of mentality of “survival of the fittest” which pushes the white man narrative that they are superior.

          69. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I’m sick too of this O vs us mental disease..the same sh!t over and over, for over 2 years..

          70. O Avatar
            O

            Lollll look in the mirror (if you can find one wide enough for that overinflated ego of yours)

          71. O Avatar
            O

            Lol thank you for confirming you are affected by moi Xoxoxo :))))

          72. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ox Void O’barabie, you affect nobody.. just keep talking normal to your friends and be happy for a change, frustrated Ox

          73. O Avatar
            O

            Your words are there. They confirm you are troubled by moi. This is a good day xoxo

          74. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It’s the opposite ..you follow like a dog ..

          75. O Avatar
            O

            Woof woof

          76. O Avatar
            O

            what a disgusting religious bigot you are. Tfou on those that brought you up as the disgusting old man bigot you. Go choke yourself ya ibn sharmouta

          77. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            neeyik emmak wu emm el sheykh taba3 esleemak ya akho el alf manyouke wu ya eben el alf sharmouta

          78. O Avatar
            O

            You are still not evolving you religious bigot baboon. I love using your own words to bury you

          79. O Avatar
            O

            Where are these studies you bark about? Provide proof or continue looking like a senile religious bigoted baboon.

          80. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I usually do not debate except with my peers (i.e. people with decent education) however every once in a while I make an exception for the Open minded who are willing to read and understand and find the truth and here you go since you asked ya 3arabi:
            Articles:
            http://www.natureasia.com/en/nmiddleeast/article/10.1038/nmiddleeast.2013.46
            http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text/2
            http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/06/07/110694.html

            Book:
            https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=PTDkAwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=pierre+zalloua+phoenicians+scholarly+articles&ots=A_W9xafqPc&sig=6-vjgerfcL_bqOpZR6NFFv_syNc#v=onepage&q&f=false

            Scholarly article: (may be hard for you to decipher)
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929708002061

            In Summary:
            Lebanon makeup is:
            third WES (R1B) haplotype: Mostly Christian community
            third J2 haplogroup: Phoenician: Spread evenly between Moslems and Christians
            third J1 haplogroup: North African / Arabian: Mostly Moslems

            Now go get some education and come down from the tree I will give you a banana

          81. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Shehe only read her gurus, wargame Btru2u Majoos and Sunni peers.

          82. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol
            The truth will hit them in the head but the jahiliya days never passed… 😉

          83. O Avatar
            O

            Early dementia? Or just dementia in your case

          84. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Old Age or Something Else? Early Signs of Dementia
            It lakes early dementia first

          85. O Avatar
            O

            That explains why you keep repeating yourself. But there’s also other issues you have that can’t be blamed on old age or dementia, like your delusions and deception.

          86. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            How many “deception” “bigot” “shitt” “whore” “daft mare” you repeat?
            You have nothing to say.

          87. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            so true… This O entity is khara khneeziir. he he

          88. O Avatar
            O

            Lol one lame study by Pierre, who has probably claimed he is Phoenician. Find me a more reliable source.

          89. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FijUup1eoc

          90. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Dude now you are going to get O all crazy.. he/she will be calling you sharmoutah for a long time.. lol

          91. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol
            he/she is an it… fu@cked up in the head.

          92. O Avatar
            O

            You’re just a uneducated loser. Back in your corner like the dog you are.

          93. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Doctor Pierre Zalloua had his blood tested and he is not a Phoenician… Stop embarrassing yourself camel dunk…

          94. O Avatar
            O

            Lol why did he test himself? Was it coz , like I said, he claimed to be Phoenician? And you said studies but have only provided one from Pierre, which is dubious to say the least.

          95. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznATgMMcOc

            Have fun…
            and do us all a favor… Just like go to Syria and join the monkeys.

          96. O Avatar
            O

            Lol still waiting for these “studies”.

            The only reason you posted four different links of the same theory by the same guy was to make it look like there was more than one study. Your deception has been uncovered and now you are like a fish out of water. Xoxoxo

          97. Phoenician Avatar
            Phoenician

            Phoenician – Lebanese Christians and Shites: A Big Myth Not An Ethnicity But A Spiritual State (A Lie Repeated To Alienate The Real Canaanites, The Sunnis And Orthodox)

            There is a controversial myth in Lebanon concerning the ancestral origins of the Lebanese people. The myth says that the Lebanese are descended from the ‘Phoenicians’. It is controversial because today Lebanon is made up of people from very different origins, resulting in a complex mosaic of ethnicities, cultures and faith traditions.

            How can a nation comprising Canaanites, Arabs, Syriacs, Assyrians, Armenians, Turks, Kurds, Copts… who are Christian and Muslim – Sunni, Catholic, Druze, Orthodox, Shiite – possibly claim to be descendants of one people: the Phoenicians, who are historically none other than the Canaanites?

            Nowadays, very few would claim this as historical fact. A prominent Lebanese Christian journalist: the late Ghassan Tueni, touches on this in his book A War on Behalf of Others about the war in Lebanon between 1975 and 1990. Writing about Lebanon’s ‘identity crisis’ he observes, ironically, that the Christians and Shiites who most insist on this hypothesis have the least claim to Phoenician ancestry: their origins lie in Mid-Syria, Armenia, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. Meanwhile those who most fiercely opposed it (due to their pro-Arab affiliations) are Sunnis and Orthodox whose ancestors have lived along the Lebanese coast for thousands of years, and are therefore more likely linked to Canaanite-Phoenician origins.

            The culture, achievements and merchant activities of the Canaanites is the subject of much historical research. What interests me is why they were called ‘Phoenicians’ and why these questions are still alive today.

            In fact they never died. The explanation is in the very name: the Phoenix is a mythological bird who never dies, and is constantly reborn from the ashes.

            What’s important, then, is not the link to Phoenicia through blood line, but the spiritual link to its very essence.

            The variety of historical monuments in Lebanon shows how many different civilizations have each in turn occupied this land. The very mention of the word ‘occupation’ conveys a meaning of destruction and reconstruction. With destruction comes loss, separation, pain, death… while with reconstruction comes a new life, beauty, freshness…

            This is exactly what happens to any people who choose live in Lebanon. Once you settle here, you have to be ready to accept losing everything, constantly, without any warning. But you also have a limitless bank account of hope for new beginnings.

            Whether or not you are descended from Canaanites, here, you ‘become’ a Phoenician. This is not an ethnicity but a spiritual state.

          98. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            This is EXACTLY what I have been saying… Many studies have revealed that the J2 Canaanite is evenly spread over all religions except the WES (R1b) haplotype which is slightly over represented in the Christian community. Lebanon is a mosaic representing a history which is very well documented in ancient and modern literature as well in the ruins and artifacts in the area.

          99. O Avatar
            O

            Btw, what are you, my YouTube service?
            Xoxoxo

          100. O Avatar
            O

            I know disqus didn’t allow your disgusting language but I managed to get it up for you. Don’t mind the pun.

          101. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            It is so easy to spot you among the sheep… Guess which one you are? Do all the bloggers here see her? hahahahahaha
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE5aDTszrY

          102. O Avatar
            O

            I love how you resorted to insults when you got caught out.

          103. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Omg finally the truth!! You’re from Australia 😀

          104. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Optus World
            Mobile Phones & Accessories
            Level 3, Shop 54, Gilchrist Drv, Macarthur Square, NSW 2560

          105. O Avatar
            O

            Now go look this one up :))))

          106. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            it showed itself up there Optus 54

          107. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            so what parasite

          108. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Your discus is not private, why your comment to O doesn’t appear but hers is down this page?

            “Btw, what are you, my YouTube
            service?”

            Xoxoxo .

          109. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You left out poor zabada, give him a shot.

          110. O Avatar
            O

            Maybe you should find me one from my “Sunni peers” like war game btru2u majoos. :))))

          111. O Avatar
            O

            And btw idiot, you said “STUDIES”! You provided ONE “study”! One study is not studies. Caught out lying! Loser

          112. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            what am I? your google services? I gave you the rod now go fish for the truth. la ghouraaba na7nou fii loubnaan norawidou el khouyoul el 3arabiya. 😉

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LKFZsKDq6E
            Lebanon IS THE CEMETERY of Da3esh

          113. Geo Avatar
            Geo

            Hannibal, I cant help but find this to be very depressing, death and destruction and disturbing images of a failed past, but the dancing lady at 4:59 and the 1972 red charger doing a burn out is cool with me 🙂 one more thing what proof do you have that you gave O the rod? :)P

          114. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            hey Geo
            Ask O the rod is up her derriere… He He

          115. O Avatar
            O

            It’s a tiny rod. That’s why I couldn’t find it. :))

          116. O Avatar
            O

            The dog with a thousand usernames. Deception at its finest. No wonder you and daft mare get along.

          117. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Amen to that.. love the video man. weinek ya Bashir.. we got rubbish now.

          118. O Avatar
            O

            Bashir is waiting for you holed up b teezee. Come visit him

          119. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Go fuck yourself mother fucker. I am sick and tired of your period never ending. why don’t shut the fuck up you ISIS mother fucker.

          120. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol Nagy… This dude is a real character ready for the circus. He has no substance nothing but hatred to everyone. I think she/it is mad because we are slaughtering their kind in Lebanon… The Lebanese army is itching for a fight with those bearded monkeys:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmJB3HekC3c

            “Give me 300 Lebanese officers and I can conquer the world” (Israeli general, 2007)

          121. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Inshallah we burn the ISIS of the Middle East in Hell and all those who seeks the destruction of Lebanon.

          122. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Look at the “hamaj” retards… They are afraid of a piano.

            http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/middleeast/isis-syria-yarmouk-piano-player/index.html

            Stupid ISIS fu@cks!

          123. O Avatar
            O

            Lol you seem slightly upset :))))
            Xoxoxo

          124. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            it is better to put your shit on your nose…and eat its..

          125. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            zebada means dick in Arabic… After all the language of the Koran was not kind to you douche bag ugly face.

          126. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            oooo.. when you insult our religion it is ok.but when i hurt you..you say it is bad…likely to America when they killing Iraqis ..it is ok..when isis is killing their enemeis ..it is crimes..your head is not working well..for sure.If you are on drunk..you can,t write comments… it hit others badly.

          127. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            You are insulting your own religion when you follow ISIS and ignore the prophet. they are twisting every message he said in the Quran. Ya rihman al Rahimm. where does ISIS forgive? or do you even forgive.. all you talk about so called purity yet these people even announced by none other the caliph himself that Islam is a religion of war. i do not believe Prophet Mohamed meant for that to happen or be said. many islamic scholars attacked ISIS yet you keep supporting them. respect yourself first before you insult others.

          128. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Really you should consider changing your name, ummm maybe that ridiculous picture as well. But don’t stop there buddy you got other issues……

        2. O Avatar
          O

          Thank you for your honest answer. I also love how you wiped the toilet with cannibal

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Trigger warning lol

        3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          I’d rather be a cheap prostitute than an ugly smelly bearded Arab no brain mutt. There is zero appeal in being an Arabian. Take zabada for instance.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        You are so weird… You know what you are (sharmouta) but do not know what siyaah means? where were you born? downtown Bangladesh?

        1. O Avatar
          O

          What’s wrong with Bangladesh? Typical racis religious bigot

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I am a christian far-right white racist and there is nothing you or your ugly likes (pictured) can do about it…
            Sieg Heil!
            I made my choice long time ago: Lebanese Army ROCKS!
            What is yours? Those bah bah black sheep?

    2. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Mark my word: You and your coreligionists will be dust before you know it. We will erase you and your evil religion from the history and that will come to happen very soon.

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        You really wanna wipe out 1.5 billion people??cool story. Wake up to yourself

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          nothing but dust will be left of you as soon as the planet wakes up to your destructive cult…
          1.5 billion jouhanam bound bearded filthy monkeys…

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I like your confidence but I don’t like your chances. While your at it could you see to it that we don’t have many flies hanging around this summer.

  3. William Petro Avatar
    William Petro

    He is no better, than the rest, you all know what politicians he’s sides with, and those he does not!

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      That is not true…

      1. O Avatar
        O

        Let me guess, your rai is infallible

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9mayuvDv2A

          1. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            Too many sectarians in Arabs world..one of them must be a winner in order to plant peace,or they will kill each others to the end of universe.

          2. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Yes I guess Al Qaada is sectarian for you since they are fighting ISIS sometimes.
            You don’t make any sense..

          3. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The only sectarians are those with the shari3a laws which of course we Lebanese will make them wipe their asses with. Screw shari3a… It is a backwardly law meant for the stupid camel jockey towel heads.

          4. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            I also can say you are dominated by us martial laws and influence by their standard of moral and their weird nwo mission and divided people badly,even in the west …Shariah is not to be judge on crimes..we can planting common civil laws on others,even on us….Shariah using in our cultures..ritual and ect.Hard laws only to scare people not to condone crimes.At ancient times all nation,countries have hard laws..fit to their barbarian at the times..that why there are many criminals died on stakes in the west..burnt..even in China and all place on the at at the time practiced very hard laws..even our Prophet use to pardon the laws..but we can invented civil laws..man made laws to prevent crimes..if people don,t scare to God they must scare to laws…it is our philosophy in laws..even so western people at ancient practice hard laws on their people..and we are not.Yes there is some incidents where Muslims practice that hard laws..but it is too limited to whom are misinterpreted our laws..unfortunately you are not a judge at any court to know what laws and its materials.You know not we are going to dominate the world in very near future..it is even in Bible..but I bet you are not an expert on bible teaching.You seem as a minor next to me on all subject.I bet great true scholars are not insult anybody,s religion…anyway i m not going to insult your religion..insult is not our culture.I knows some times they are on drunk when talking to others..that we prohibited alcohol ..so i remain cool and calm.Our language show our descent.

          5. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            coming from an ISIS supporter? Really? You want to teach me ethics? I know the bible and I do not subscribe to it neither… The Koran and the Bible are myths. Go away!

          6. zabada Avatar
            zabada

            All people have religion.and you are not..you need to join aboriginal in nowhere jungle.Even aboriginal believe in god..ask them…I guess an aboriginal is better then you…you are nonsense at all…that why Hind hates you and love me…

          7. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Idiotic islamic dipshit:
            I never said I do not believe in God.
            I do not believe in man made books
            now go away

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        He may or may not be spouting the ‘right words’, Hannibal. But NOTHING IS DONE to get women ANY jobs so they can survive on their own … and they receive no ‘AID’ either – for rent, for food, for schooling of a youth, for clothing …. Petro, in this case, is right. RAI is only a ‘figurehead’ … and like ALL the other ‘figureheads’, only talks a lot. NONE OF THEM DO ANYTHING. Hand all those religious bastards some shovels and let them sort out what stinks from everything else, and pile it neatly for collectors. There will be more bodies to add to the carts soon as well.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          My take on this 5th is that Rai should stick to spirituality solely… They and other religious entities (especially those promoting Sharia) should tend to the soul and promoting good ethics without waving punishment in the face of the believers and do charity work without waving the heavenly rewards to coax you into it. Leave the daily dealings to the civil authorities and that include women’s rights etc.
          I will practice and EXPERIENCE EVERY religion that will not interfere in government and politics directly or indirectly. There is beauty in every religion and ugliness only comes out when it becomes the sole way to God.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, Hannibal. There is no ‘charity’. And discussion with friends is about their ‘end-time’ now. Bottom lines .. not philosophy. Lebanon cannot even bury a body in an ‘owned’ grave.

    2. Alex H Avatar
      Alex H

      I agree with Hannibal, that doesn’t seem to be the case with Rai. What do you mean?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        His ‘church’ isn’t looking after the food needs of starving Christians in Tripoli EITHER !!
        THEY ARE PART OF LEBANON POLITICS. It is that simple.
        The place is filled with RELIGIOUS FATHEADS. And thus now, 3rd world …. Only problem being that ‘The Stupid World’ doesn’t recognize them as Refugees.

  4. Hind Abyad Avatar
    Hind Abyad

    Protesters in Iraq and Lebanon demand accountability

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/08/iraq-lebanon-protests-saudi-khobar.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=0b87d

  5. Intouchable Avatar
    Intouchable

    The statement by Patriarch al-Rai sounds to me as common sense.

    “These are the personal goals, materials and policies that have blocked the election of a president for a year and five months, and thereafter, the work of Parliament and threaten to block the government. These were also behind the crimes, security chaos, corruption and misappropriation of public funds. This has led to depriving citizens of their most basic rights,”.

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