Europe’s Islam Debate Erupts after the Paris massacre

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The deadly attack on the offices of the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo only heightens the fears that many Europeans have when it comes to Islam
The deadly attack on the offices of the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo only heightens the fears that many Europeans have when it comes to Islam

The bodies haven’t been buried and the killers are on the loose, but that didn’t prevent anti-Islam politicians across Europe from seizing on yesterday’s massacre in Paris.

The rhetoric varied in intensity across the European Union’s 28 countries, each with its own religious and social phobias, many gripped by an economic recession that makes convenient scapegoats out of immigrants — especially those with veils, turbans and non-white skin.

“I wish my daughter will be free tomorrow to go around without a veil and without any fears,” Matteo Salvini, head of Italy’s anti-immigration Northern League, said on Twitter. Nigel Farage, leader of the U.K. Independence Party, spoke on LBC radio of a “Fifth Column” gnawing away at Britain and “a really rather gross policy of multi-culturalism.” Geert Wilders, head of the Freedom Party in the Netherlands, said it is time to “de-Islamize our country.”

The murder of 12 people at a French satire magazine put Europe’s fragile politics on display, mobilizing the opponents of the EU’s much-heralded open borders and driving mainstream backers of often ill-defined “fundamental values” onto the defensive.

Europe is more vulnerable than the U.S. to radical, anti-immigration leanings. Abutting the newly aggressive Russia and across the Mediterranean Sea from the upheavals of the Arab world, the EU inhabits a dangerous neighborhood, with potential troubles that dwarf what the U.S. faces along its southwestern border.

‘Dirty Entanglements’
“One of the problems of Europe today is it is surrounded by regions, in North Africa, the Balkans, the Middle East where these dirty entanglements of corruption, crime and terrorism interact in such a potent way to destabilize the societies,” Louise Shelley, a professor at George Mason University in Virginia, told Bloomberg Television.

Historically, Europe was a place people emigrated from. While countries that make up the pacified post-World War II EU have long since entered the multi-ethnic era, with France home to 5 million Muslims, the melting-pot mythology isn’t part of the typical European state’s DNA.

“In Europe right now there’s a tremendous amount of anti-immigration sentiment,” Daniel Benjamin, a former U.S. counter-terrorism official now with the Brookings Institution in Washington, said on Bloomberg Television. “The danger here is that we see ever greater confrontations, provocations and the like, and that will drive radicalization. That is a very difficult thing for the authorities to manage.”

EU Splits
There is little chance of EU governments uniting around a coordinated immigration policy in the foreseeable future, said Timo Lochocki, a fellow at the German Marshall Fund in Berlin. Nor would a clampdown catch native-born radicals like the suspects in yesterday’s attack.

“There’s no effect whatsoever of increasing border controls if you’re concerned about terrorist threats with a domestic source,” Lochocki said. “This applies to the French case and will likely apply in future cases.”

Immigration has split Europe between north and south, but not in the way the euro debt crisis did. The protest parties that grew up in financially stricken Greece, Spain and Italy have fed on socialist traditions of justice and welfare, making them largely supportive of newcomers.

The backlash has been concentrated in the better-off north. Some countries like Denmark and the Netherlands fought these battles in the late 1990s and early 2000s, curbing migration but rewarding those that assimilate. Barely concealed anti-Muslim prejudice was behind France’s National Front by Jean-Marie Le Pen, founded in 1972 but long a fringe phenomenon.

National Front

Now controlled by Le Pen’s more media-savvy daughter Marine, the National Front is riding high in French opinion polls. It got more votes than any other French party in last May’s European Parliament elections, allowing it to take its anti-EU message to the EU’s heartland.

Le Pen called for France to bring back the death penalty and posted a video denouncing “radical Islam” while defending “Muslim compatriots attached to our country and its values.” The political dimension to today’s national day of mourning wasn’t far from the surface.

Spontaneous rallies in French and major European cities and as far away as Sydney and New York went along with minutes of silence — one organized by Donald Tusk, a former Polish prime minister who became EU president in December — as tokens of respect for the victims and cultural tolerance.

Grenades, Shots

The two messages sat together uneasily. Blank grenades were hurled at a mosque in Le Mans, west of Paris, a bomb went off near a mosque in Villefranche-sur-Saone in the east, and shots were fired at a Muslim prayer hall in southern France, Le Figaro reported.

Adding to the corrosive atmosphere, a policewoman was shot to death south of Paris. A black-garbed suspect was held, BFMTV said. The authorities gave no initial indication of a connection with the killings at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris yesterday.

“I anticipate a radicalization of our debate on Islam, of our debate on immigration to some extent, and a conflation of the two by the National Front,” said Bruno Tertrais, senior research fellow at the Foundation for Strategic Research in Paris. “The intellectual climate was unfortunately nauseous already.”

Germany’s Pegida

The murders came as the front in Europe’s culture wars reached Germany, where anti-Islamic sentiment had long been unable to gain political traction. The battle lines were drawn late last year when the upstart Pegida movement — German for “Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West” — took to the same streets in eastern Germany that were gathering points for protests against the Berlin Wall in 1989.

In a Facebook post yesterday, Pegida said the Paris attacks show that Islamists “aren’t able to accept democracy, and rely on violence and death as a solution. But our politicians would have us believe otherwise.”

Pegida held a meeting today with lawmakers from the anti-euro Alternative for Germany, or AfD, party in the Saxony state parliament. AfD wants tighter immigration and asylum rules and their Saxony leader, Frauke Petry, said after the talks that there’s “common ground” between both groups.

At the same time, AfD co-chairman Bernd Lucke said Islam as whole can’t be blamed “for the violence committed by two extremists” and Hans-Olaf Henkel, an AfD deputy, said that Europe must help “enlightened Muslims in all Islamic countries” to be more influential.

Pegida, whose first weekly demonstration in the eastern city of Dresden drew a few hundred people in October, has seen its protests grow. About 18,000 people joined a rally on Jan. 5 and the group called on its Facebook site for a big turnout on Jan. 12 “to commemorate the victims” of Paris.

For the 4 million Muslims in Germany, the outcome is combustible. Lamya Kaddor, head of a Cologne-based Islamic association, said the Paris murders could “add fuel to the fires of hotheads on both sides,” according to Deutsche Presse-Agentur.

NewsWeek

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24 responses to “Europe’s Islam Debate Erupts after the Paris massacre”

  1. In the case of the terrorist attack in Paris detained nine people

    1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
      TheUSequalsTheIS

      its funny that one of the most powerful nations on earth cudnt prevent these terrorists from attacking their capital. it makes u wonder, if they wanted this to happen?
      its like when the cia cudnt prevent 9/11.

  2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
    Maborlz Ez-Hari

    Time decontamination begins with sending all moslems back to their places of origin, western civilisation can disinfect the remnants and learn not to repeat the same mistakes. Monkeys belong in trees, wort hogs in Africa, and dick head lslamists in desserts. There’s nothing to debate combustibles are treated with caution, as are all hazardous materials and islam needs to be classified as an unpredictable danger to itself and others.

    1. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      I agree with your rage, but I see Muslims from all nationalities living respectfully and adapting to the culture that surrounds them and so I tend to believe that if it works somewhere and with some people, it can work everywhere with most people.
      Muslims need first and foremost to review their beliefs. The interpretation of the Quran is obsolete. New messages need to be found to guide the Muslims away from the dark ages of the religion.
      So I’m not going to go as far as you did “decontaminating” the world of muslims, but hunting down the likes of Btrue2u is fair game.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Yeah reflecting on what i wrote it probably was a little extreme but they need to tidy up their act. If they are being set up then they can avoid that by not being so defensive of the violence and standing up for peace. But all we see is comments justifying the carnage. There are some smart sons of bitches out there who plant lies and manipulate events around the world to achieve their own agendas and the propaganda against moslems is tooooo easy cos they instantly support and justify the atrocities. The dumber a person is the easier it is to set them up and knowing how they think and react makes it even easier to set them up. There has to be an intelligent sheikh somewhere who can guide these folks from continually treading in it.

        1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          i just love the peace that the westerners stand for. look how peaceful ukraine is, look how peaceful syria is, look how peaceful iraq is. look how peaceful palestine is, look how peaceful the entire south america is. its all due to the europeans who stand up for peace.

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’m referring to the people in general not the governments of any country. On the issue of heads of states I see no difference between them all and have no trust in no leader east or west. But when did a westerner defend a murderer, when did a westerner stone his wife or daughter in accordance with their religion?, when did a westerner chop of the head of a non believer? And soooooooo on. Stop being a dumb arse if life in the west is so bad get the fuck out.

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            they just paid osama bin laden to all that for them

      2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        i wish that one day europeans cud live receptfully wid their surroundings too. as it has been so far – during history – whereever europeans go they start wipping out native populations of americas, australia and africa or they start wars, world wars, cold wars, fund terrorism, install dictatorships, steal lands of others and give it away to israelis.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          There is a new phobia today to add to Islamophobia… It is the new Europhobia LOL

      3. Hannibal Avatar

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA “hunting down Btru2u” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
      TheUSequalsTheIS

      if they start sending muslims back home what makes u think that u and that mekensehparty wudnt have to join the muslims? in the eyes of europeans and westerners it doesnt make the big difference if u r moslem or christian. as long u r not a westerner.
      eastern europeans of west europe r looked down at as much as the muslims even though i never heard of an eastern european terrorist.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Either way we get caught in the crossfire as does the average Moslem who just wants to live minding his own business and living an honest life, but on a daily basis emerging assholes in the name of Islam want to take matters into their own hands and enforce their beliefs on others. To all these majwi mutts head back to Iraq or wherever it was you came from and stay there, keep out of western lands and grow your beards, wear your dress and preach your beliefs to your own.

        1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          those assholes r paid to do so.
          israel created hamas.
          france housed khomeini.
          the US created al-qaeda

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I know of a few assholes who left Sydney to go to Syria, the same assholes are getting welfare payments from the government. These assholes actually believe in a Islamic caliphate emergence they lust to kill and grab weapons. Most of them are nothing but unemployable bums with no useful skills to engage in or provide society with any benefits. Some of these bums are barley able to put more than two words together and have difficulty thinking for themselves. Honestly I see more intelligence in captive animals behind bars in the zoo. I don’t doubt the theories about who created who but I also don’t doubt how low these assholes will stoop to.

  3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
    TheUSequalsTheIS

    and the west accomplished what it wanted from this set up. to blame muslims for something that they themselves created, funded, invented, supported, backed and armed
    and some ppl just cant believe when they r told that al-qaeda, boko haram, nusra and the ISIS r best friends

    1. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      copy/paste from Iranian newspapers

      1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        no i got that from fox news:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnLvzV9xAHA

      2. Hannibal Avatar

        and your answer to “TheUSequalsTheIS” is?

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          To use his brain for once instead of copy pasting
          we’ve read what he said on Iranian news sites, nothing new…

          1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            since when did fox news turn into an iranian news site?

    2. The absence of blood is curious, but if you look closely at the slow motion at 1:03 you will see that the gunshot fired at the cop on the ground (who happens to be Muslim) actually misses him and strikes the pavement several inches past him.

      But the main reason I wanted to post this is that it confirms that an Israeli media deputy editor “just happened” to be there to get the scenes on video.

      UPDATE: I am receiving emails that the unedited video showing that the gunshot misses the man on the ground are being pulled down from services like Vimeo because of “disgusting content”, which is apparently code-speak for “embarrassing revelation that undermines the official story.” So grab a copy off the web while you still can!

      UPDATE 2: YouTube just yanked the version above. Here is another.

      Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3OHA9fSZY

  4. Irv Spielberg Avatar
    Irv Spielberg

    GOD ALLOWS ISLAMIC TERRORISM !

    (Each human is part of this “River.” Are you an “oxbow lake”?)

    Islam, part of the Living River of History, has been affecting even US elections!
    The “headwaters” of this River was Adam, according to Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.

    In the OT (Deut. 28), “tributaries” wanting to join the River are
    blessed while “distributaries” wanting to flow away from it are cursed.
    Those wishing to totally separate from the fresh Living River become
    polluted, dying “oxbow lakes.”
    In the OT we see Israelites
    repeatedly flowing away from God, then repenting and returning to Him;
    we also see heathen “oxbow lakes” creating their own little “gods” and
    being allowed by God to plunder and kill the erring Israelites.
    Then, at the right time, the Living River took on new life with the arrival of the Promised One who offers “living water.”

    In the 7th century Islam, drawing from both OT and NT, chose to be a
    distributary away from this River. Many scholars have viewed it as the
    final Antichrist: note “scourge” (Isa. 28), “Assyrian” (Mic. 5),
    “Euphrates” (Rev. 9) etc. (Google “Prof. F. N. Lee’s ISLAM IN THE BIBLE
    [PDF].” Dr. Lee, BTW, has nine (!) earned doctorates in various fields.)

    God will allow this “scourge” to temporarily persecute and kill
    apostate Jews (JINOs) and Christians (CINOs). Jews, especially in
    “entertainment,” seem more expert in apostasy than Christians since Jews
    have been at it 2000 years longer than Christians have (Google
    “jewishfaces.com/porn.html”) – but Christians apparently want to catch
    up to the Jews!
    It’s apparent that others will join Islam in its
    end-time inquisition; its great oil wealth can captivate many leaders
    and already we’re seeing apostate American leaders being bribed into
    turning against true American patriots.
    Those who ignore (or try
    to dilute or destroy) the God-ordained Living River of History will be
    swept down it to an ocean made by their own never-ending tears of agony
    and despair.
    The good news is that American JINOs & CINOs
    can overcome the “scourge” discussed above. The secret is found by
    checking out “II Chronicles 7:14” & “John 3:16” on the web.

    There’s still time – and freedom – to Google or MSN “Obama Promotes
    Public Sex,” “Obama a Black-Slavery Avenger?,” “Dangerous Radicals of
    the Religious Right,” “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Mikey Weinstein,
    Jesus-Basher,” “Christ’s return is NOT imminent,” “Pretrib Rapture
    Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Pretrib Rapture Pride,”
    “Pretrib Rapture Stealth,” “Evangelicals Use Occult Deception” and
    “Famous Rapture Watchers.”
    In light of Matthew 7:2, if we
    tolerate Christian leaders who lie to us and steal from us, we shouldn’t
    be surprised if God allows us to have political leaders who lie to us
    and steal from us!

    A Kansas Patriot (who won FIRST PLACE over 2200 entrants in a nationwide Americanism essay contest)

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