Iraq tribal leaders make conditional offer to join government

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Sheikh Ali Hatem al-Suleiman Al-Dulaimi, prince of the Dulaim tribe, one of the largest Arab tribes, speaks during a press conference in Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq on May 13, 2014. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED        (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images)
Sheikh Ali Hatem al-Suleiman Al-Dulaimi, prince of the Dulaim tribe, one of the largest Arab tribes, speaks during a press conference in Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq on May 13, 2014. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images)

Tribal leaders and clerics from Iraq’s Sunni heartland offered their conditional backing yesterday for a new government that hopes to contain sectarian bloodshed and an offensive by Islamic State militants that threatens to tear the country apart.

One of the most influential tribal leaders said he was willing to work with Shi’ite prime minister-designate Haider al-Abadi provided a new administration respected the rights of the Sunni Muslim minority that dominated Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

Ali Hatem Suleiman left open a possibility that Sunnis would take up arms against the Islamic State fighters in the same way as he and others joined US and Shi’ite-led government forces to thwart an al-Qaeda insurgency in Iraq between 2006 and 2009.

Abadi faces the daunting task of pacifying the vast western desert province of Anbar, where Sunni frustrations with the sectarian policies of outgoing Shi’ite premier Nuri al-Maliki have goaded some to join the Islamic State insurrection.

Iraq has been plunged into its worst violence since the peak of a sectarian civil war in 2006-2007, with Sunni fighters led by the Islamic State overrunning large parts of the west and north, forcing hundreds of thousands to flee for their lives and threatening ethnic Kurds in their autonomous province.

Winning over Sunnis will be vital to any efforts to contain the violence marked by daily kidnappings, execution-style killings and bombings.

Taha Mohammed al-Hamdoon, spokes­man for the tribal and clerical leaders, said Sunni representatives in Anbar and other provinces had drawn up a list of demands. This would be delivered through Sunni politicians to Abadi, a member of the same Shi’ite Islamist party but with a less confrontational reputation than Maliki, who announced on Thursday he would stand down.

Iraq’s most influential Shi’ite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, said the handover of power offered a rare opportunity to resolve the crisis.

Sistani told the country’s feuding politicians to live up to their “historic responsibility” by cooperating with Abadi as he tries to form a new government and overcome divisions among the Shi’ite, Sunni and Kurdish communities that deepened under Maliki. Abadi himself, in comments online, urged his countrymen to unite and cautioned that the road ahead would be tough.

Sistani, a reclusive octogenarian whose authority few Iraqi politicians would dare openly challenge, also had pointed comments for the military, which offered no serious resistance when the Islamic State staged its lightning offensive in June.

“We stress the necessity that the Iraqi flag is the banner they hoist over their troops and units, and avoid using any pictures or other symbols,” Sistani said, in a call for the armed forces to set aside sectarian differences. Maliki was blamed for blurring lines between the army and Shi’ite militias.

Maliki ended eight years in power that began under US occupation and endorsed Abadi in a televised late-night speech during which he stood next to his successor.

The appointment of Abadi has drawn widespread support within Iraq but also from the United States and regional Shi’ite power Iran – two countries which have been at odds for decades.

“The regional and international welcome is a rare positive opportunity … to solve all [Iraq’s] problems, especially political and security ones,” Sistani said in comments which were relayed by his spokesman after weekly Friday prayers in the Shi’ite holy city of Kerbala, south of Baghdad.

After its capture of the northern metropolis of Mosul in June, a swift push by the Islamic State to the borders of Iraqi Kurdistan alarmed Baghdad and last week drew the first US air strikes on Iraq since the withdrawal of American troops in 2011.

The United States has asked European countries to supply arms and ammunition to the Kurdish forces, US and European officials have said.

In Brussels, European Union foreign ministers decided that individual member states were free to send weapons to the Kurds, provided they had the consent of Iraqi national authorities.

The EU said it would also look at how to prevent the Islamic State, which has overrun some oilfields in Syria and Iraq, from benefiting from oil sales.

Several European governments, including France, Germany, the Czech Republic and the Netherlands, have said they will send arms to the Kurds or are considering doing so. In London the British government also said it would consider “positively” any request for weapons from the Kurds.

In Geneva the United Nations said around 80,000 people had fled to the relative safety of Dohuk province on the Turkish and Syrian borders, part of the 1.2 million Iraqis who have been displaced inside the country this year.

Dan McNorton of the UNHCR refugee agency said their plight was severe. “People are exhausted, people are very thirsty, there are searing temperatures,” he told a news briefing, adding that children and old people were among those forced to walk for days without food, water or shelter.

Several thousand remained on the barren tops of the Mount Sinjar range, where members of the Yazidi religious minority fled the militants, who consider them “devil worshippers”.

On Thursday President Barack Obama said the Islamists’ siege of Mount Sinjar had been broken and he did not expect the United States to stage an evacuation or continue humanitarian air drops.

However, McNorton said help was still needed. “That situation remains very dramatic for those people, regardless of how many people are on the mountain. It is of critical importance to ensure that theyget the assistance and support that they need from the international community,” he said.

 

Reuters

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173 responses to “Iraq tribal leaders make conditional offer to join government”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Dan McNorton of the UNHCR refugee agency is absolutely right. And some need medical treatment … like the kids with skin peeling off their feet from sun-burn.

  2. sweetvirgo Avatar
    sweetvirgo

    So what??? Does that mean ISIS will just disappear and say ok we are not going to fight? They will tell the Christians you can come back home and don’t have to convert?? Gimme a break ISIS wants to rule the middle east.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Yah … but there must be a few ‘moderate’ Tribalists somewhere. 😉

      1. sweetvirgo Avatar
        sweetvirgo

        Hmmmm let’s hope so ;))

    2. yu com bak and convertt or I wil keel yu, and if yu convertt and I dont believ yu I wil stiil KIL YU Change yur nam tu sweet isis or I wil Kil YU!

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        LOL …. was that a Spanish accent??

        1. Heavy arrrrab axsent, yu got it rrrong, now i hav to keeell yu toooo :)P

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Heavy Arab, or Heavy Spaniard … hard tell the difference without a scale …. 😉

          2. sweetvirgo Avatar
            sweetvirgo

            LOL…You’re so silly ;)))

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Thank you …. I try to blend in most times. :-))

          4. sweetvirgo Avatar
            sweetvirgo

            Love it!!!

          5. master09 Avatar

            Blend now your talking Scottish.

  3. Just a reminder: ISIS leader was trained by Israeli mossad.
    ISIS and Israeli Zionism in Israel and America, have to be eliminated.. they are both revolting and hated by humanity.

    http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/isil-leader-a-mossad-agent-french-report/

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      “The real name of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is “Simon Elliott.”
      Somebody is going to be REALLY upset with THAT news, Btru2u.

      1. So I hear Baghdadis real name Elliot Shimon, born of Jewish parents and trained by Mossad., This is the predicted phscycological warfare in its lowest form, that Zionists and Americans are playing to stop the re-emergence of the True and Just caliphate. The Shiite and Sunnis must put away their differences , make the war criminals accountable, and focus on the greater and common good.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          But … perhaps only some of each of them. It would not need many ….
          One seed of doubt is often enough.
          What does a ‘True & Just’ Caliph represent to you? In 2014, of course.

        2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Well done Btru2u, now go tell all the misguided youth before they join the murderers. Keep it up it’s a relief listening to a few words of wisdom.

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            The Zionists have an abundance of weaponry at their disposal from the west and an abundance of loyal ground zombies (extremists) in the east. Very efficiently ruining the world.

        3. Greetings Btru and I hope you and your are doing well. if what you say is true does that make the jews really really smart or are the arab really really stupid?

          1. Hey Geo, I must agree that there is a combination of both Zionist intelligence , and Arab misguided emotions , depravity, and stupidity , due to the Zionist, western and sectarian double standards that is at play here.
            Freedom of religion, and the protection of non combatants is paramount in a true and Just Caliphate.
            As the Arab works becomes more divided , they become weaker.
            Our leaders are using their military to defend their thrones, while the rest suffer.
            In today’s world knowledge , education, and technology underline the econmic and social strength in society. Ruling structures of necessity, must enable particapatory mechanisms, and offer sound political governance models. Alienation from the rest can only be disastorous. For that though , we have to drastically mend our ways.
            What of Gaza then? I am afraid , Israel , one day will have to say “it’s enough”. Beyond that , there is little hope.

          2. “Our leaders are using their military to defend their thrones, while the rest suffer” this is the way it always was Btru2u . even when they fought Israel it was to tell the people: look , we do something so you better let us stay incharge” Hafes al assad did a career out of it while doing nothing at all.
            arab leaders never planed to destroy israel, israel was the pre-text and excuse for arab monarchs to keep the throne

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Rambling thoughts … I allow them when watching clouds from the beach.
            Dreaming never hurts … although trying to make dreams come true, can.
            If one always feels the need of being ‘lead’ all the time, not necessarily by the slave’s nose-ring but by poor thoughts planted well, then it is not really intelligence which differentiates the species very much.
            Education comes in various ways. Having the freedom to exercise a desire for more is a primary requirement, for the intelligence which seeks it. There are many examples of humans who surpassed the economic hardships they faced, to learn and to excel in life, both for themselves and for their societies. Some of the most poor are also the most societal and friendly to other humans. They don’t have the brains jammed up with the thoughts which push a false ‘excellence’ or a false ‘need’. More often than not, they are the ones closest to ‘the land and sea’.
            It all comes down to the individual – the one needed to form the society.
            Having a ‘leader’ frees up some of the chores each would need to do as an individual if the society did not exist. The ‘leader’ exists to serve the people.
            When a village had 50 individuals, it was easy to see where the needs were.
            In 2014, with 7+ billion in a huge city called Earth, picking the leader ‘FOR’ the people becomes a little dicey when he/she is given ALL POWER to ‘lead’.
            ‘The people’ often make errors in judging some abilities, when only ‘passion’ picks a leader. (‘Marriage’ is an example … ;-)))
            Having the freedom, under laws of society, to recognize a poor choice and then to correct it, is to allow intelligence to educate itself well.
            Live long and prosper. But keep an eye out for Klingons … they still need some education.

          4. Well Said, the results speak for them selves, sadly mankind is unwise and too proud and arrogant to change or revise his thinking in a timely fashion that could spare the death and suffering we see before us, misdirected mind and heart set that does not reflect wisdom from above that if applied would be fair and just for All instead of the few trouble makers.

    2. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      Shame on a people who keeps blaming others to justify its barbarism.
      Man up and recognize that your societies have created monsters and stop pointing fingers.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Edward snowden, coughed up the truth. The caliph is a Zionist agent, his loyal followers are Sunni extremists. His society has forwarded monsters but so have ours, do you trust your government?

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          I don’t trust my government or any government that’s what Americans are known for, that’s the first lesson that you learn in the USA, keep the government away from your life and business as much as you can, fight the government when it tries to intrude.
          But that’s beside the point: when my government effs up, I don’t go blame the Kazakhs…
          Ps: don’t go believe what every idiot writes on the internet. The reference article is amateurish at best and based on nothing but hearsay and nothing factual. Not even snowden is named as the verified source.

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            How did he equip and organise his strategy so quickly and efficiently if he was not backed by some foriegn country specialists. Arabs are not capable on their own. Not in a million years.

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Don’t you think that what you say is contradictory?
            If you have such a low opinion of Arabs and strongly believe they are so incapable then why are you opposing their enemies (who should be your friends since they share your beliefs)?
            If they’re so stupid why defending them?
            As for IS’ funding and training it is now an established fact that Qatar and Turkey were leading the effort until Baghdadi went rogue and took the whole cake for himself.
            PS: ISIS is not as new as you think.

          3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ya MP, What’s so contradictory in what I say, can’t stupid people be innocent?. As a matter of fact it’s easier to set up a fool than a person with some level of intellect. Arabs are the perfect scapegoat.

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            They would be innocent if they were not the #1 producers of terrorists in the world. If they don’t teach their children how to hold severed heads and take a picture of it and post it publicly. If the Arabs were indeed as stupid as you think, they would be living the blessed life of the stupid rich, because we agree they are extremely rich. Instead, they’re using their wealth to finance terrorist organizations and consciously spreading a barbaric interpretation of their sacred book, that’s not stupid, that’s evil – this is where lies the source of your contradiction: you are defending evil people who still live in an age where slavery is a norm, where the massacre of entire villages is a simple event, where gasing entire areas is something to be proud of.
            The scapegoat theory is again the word used for running from responsibilities. When Saddam Hussein launched a gas attack on the Kurds nobody was forcing his hand. When Bashar drops barrel bombs on his population there are no mysterious voices whispering in his ears to do so. When Khamenei orders every person wearing green to be tortured and raped in Evin nobody is holding a sword on his head…
            Do you agree that most Arab “forces” on the ground today are backward, uncivilized and fundamentally evil?

          5. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “#1 producers of terrorists in the world”

            When have the Arabs wiped out over 140,000 innocent civilians with one attack?
            No, that number 1 spot goes to the Americans.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            … Who, after the experiment, and then trying to ‘fix’ some of the bodies that were dying slowly from the effects, decided it was best not to let anyone else have it … although the Russians spied it out of them fast enough, which just made everyone ‘cold’ for a while.
            Think about what is being ‘declassified’. It is not the facts of what a Nuke can do. Only the thoughts of politicians jotting notes on paper.
            The REAL IDIOCY was running the ‘power gages’ UP in size, and then going to Plutonium-size in experiments, and both ‘sides’ were doing it without noticing ‘the people’ were sitting very nervously wondering what they had ‘elected’.
            Everyone knew. Dr. Strangelove was in the room.
            It was not ‘ALL’ Americans plotting … they just had to think about who to put ‘on first’ next.

          7. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “Who, after the experiment, and then trying to ‘fix’ some of the bodies that were dying slowly from the effects, decided it was best not to let anyone else have it ”

            Was that the real reason or was it coz the wanted to remain the leader in terms of weapons?

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Politicians love to be ‘on top’. And hate to be reminded it’s the people who put them there. Without nukes, the Americans are still ‘on top’ with weapons. They work hard at that … The SHAME is that they think they must !! But then, there’s a lot taking ‘pot-shots’ at them … it’s what makes them paranoid.
            Perhaps, justifiably so.

          9. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            They are at top now but we were talking about ww2

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And a different ‘age’ of ‘Western Man’. WWI sent the world into a huge depression – monetarily and psychologically. It was a really horrible war to be in. Life after wasn’t ‘jolly’. Suddennly after only 30 years, up pops #2. Pissed off a lot of people, even as they felt they needed to ‘join up’ and do something, and it dragged them out of a depression – as Hitler’s ‘work-up’ to it had dragged Germany out of it’s own.
            (Yes, bad political decisions after #1 – led to #2.)
            WOMEN were finally given ‘workplace power’ too. They really were needed.
            The USA gave ‘support’, but wasn’t ‘in’ … until the Megalomaniac Warriors talked a weak Emperor into it, and Japan attacked America. Ooops. Made their heads spin. It became ‘personal’.
            And after that, in a war, just about anything goes. Humanity hits the bottom.

            ISIS is ‘the bottom’ of humanity too … they just don’t have the big weapon.
            In this case, I think, just as well.
            But ‘the people’ ARE in depression again. For many reasons.
            And even so, MOST are saying ‘STOP’. They know the past. They want a future.

          11. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Established fact? Prove it! U always make claims without proof, always. U remind me of hind

          12. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Check what the Germans are saying today and come back for more avant-garde news sponsored by the Mekenseh Party

      2. $89733098 Avatar
        $89733098

        So u admit the us government is barbaric? Starting with Hiroshima onwards?

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Undeniably.

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Easy to say 70 years later
            after all the Nazis are not knocking on your door and measuring the size of your nose.
            Instead the Americans gave you all the technologies and tools to express your opinions freely. Barbaric you say?
            Undeniably…

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            MP pull your head out, your being deprived of fresh air.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            C’mon MEH, let’s stay on topic
            let’s not digress
            I wrote you a set of questions that I’d be very happy to discuss the answers with you. If we’re going to start talking about lack or excess of air let’s put hind, barabie and farq on CC and turn the conversation into a series of insults.

          4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            The americans gave me mork and mindy, happy days, the brady bunch and my favorite of all quentin tarrantino. Their automobiles are heavy, thirsty rust buckets. Their rifles and pistols are way inferior to European products. Technology developed in america was predominantly by non american scientists many east germans donated their expertise to the americans. Hmmmm they do have a heap of bourbons but that is a miserable drop compared to what the Scottish have served. Ummmmmm I’m trying to thank them for something but no sorry, I’m unable to think of anything, oh my I’m so sorry how could I forget to mention Charlie sheen, he’s someone I would like to thank the Americans for.

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            So that’s how you measure a civilization? Incomplete and inaccurate information gathered from rumors, taste buds, and what a cousin who visited America for 2 weeks tells you? That’s your opinion and I respect it. Now please tell me what did the Arabs achieve for you to prefer them that much?

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Check what the (US) Rover found on Mars 😉
            Thank you?

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I think you can start before that one … but then, politicians have been around since the ‘Witch Doctor’ was all ‘The Word’.
          Mind you, Japan DID stop fighting. Not necessarily a bad thing.

          1. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “The
            US atomic destruction of 140,000 people at Hiroshima and 70,000 at
            Nagasaki was never “necessary” because Japan was already smashed, no
            land invasion was needed and Japan was suing for peace. The official
            myth that “the bombs saved lives” by hurrying Japan’s surrender can no
            longer be believed except by those who love to be fooled. The
            long-standing fiction has been destroyed by the historical record kept
            in US, Soviet, Japanese and British archives — now mostly declassified —
            and detailed by Ward Wilson in his book “Five Myths about Nuclear Weapons” (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2013).”

            http://uruknet.info/?p=m108894&hd=&size=1&l=e

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Many in a series …
            http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0544103254/counterpunchmaga

            I prefer to conclude that the 2 rather small examples were the best reason to dismantle all of them, and never use them again, no matter what ‘people’ think they accomplished in one war.
            Not SO much was ‘hidden’. There is a rather graphic set of images in an old book I have … and it doesn’t need much imagination after seeing them.
            (Amazing how the young folks think the oldies know nothing …)

        3. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Hiroshima?
          Hahahaha
          Sometime I wish we let Hitler win, at least we won’t have to read your nonsense because hun, if that is your real picture, you wouldn’t have made the cut.

          1. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “The US atomic destruction of 140,000 people at Hiroshima and 70,000 at
            Nagasaki was never “necessary” because Japan was already smashed, no
            land invasion was needed and Japan was suing for peace. The official
            myth that “the bombs saved lives” by hurrying Japan’s surrender can no
            longer be believed except by those who love to be fooled. The
            long-standing fiction has been destroyed by the historical record kept
            in US, Soviet, Japanese and British archives — now mostly declassified —
            and detailed by Ward Wilson in his book “Five Myths about Nuclear Weapons” (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2013).”

            As i said, barbaric!

            http://uruknet.info/?p=m108894&hd=&size=1&l=e

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            so a guy wrote a book voicing his opinion does it make his opinion the ultimate truth? you’re so naïve.

          3. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Oh the declassified documents evaded your old broomstick eyes?

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            The declassification of secret documents is part of the culture of accountability I was telling you about and that you refuse to understand. Making public, things that were secret – and among them what is considered today as mass killing that WE perpetrated – proves how much we care for the truth, the whole Truth.
            These generals voiced their opinion and such opinions were officially noted and nothing can erase them. They were kept in the dark for years but they ended up being published by a system put in place by us so that the Truth becomes known.
            Once out, it was some of us again who analyzed them and voiced conclusions. Among these conclusions one is that the bombs were NOT necessary.
            Others who analyzed the same documents will say that the bombs were absolutely necessary and that even after the first bomb the Japanese refused to surrender.
            A third group will say yes and no…
            And in the process of all this, we learn from the past and improve our present.
            The road out of barbarism is long, 2 million years since the ape climbed down the tree and only a small part of the planet is fighting barbarism, as for the part of the planet that you identify with, “hun” you’re just discovering walking on the ground and itch for the branches.

          5. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol if u bothered to read it was more than one country’s declassified documents. But of course u will twist it to make yourself look better instead of admitting u massacred innocent civilians (yet again) for false reasons. Whether its atomic weapons, as in Hiroshima, or agent orange, in Vietnam, or white phosphorous in Iraq, u r barbaric. And why classify them for 50 years if u r “accountable” unless u have something to hide? Who r u holding “accountable” 50 years later?????

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Barabie .. Lebanon is ‘Confessional’ in it’s Parliamentary Title.
            I think Geagea is the only one who confessed something.
            And WHO is keeping accurate files for a ‘future’?? You know … for that ‘History Book’ grade-school kids should have to reference.
            They say ‘The conqueror writes history’. It would be good to have ONE.
            Can it BE the Lebanese??

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            more paraphrasing…
            read what I said and you questions will be answered

          8. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol good to see u have no answer.

          9. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I have plenty of answers that you simply turn a blind eye on. Just like you’re turning a blind eye on the fact that your culture knows no accountability, that hundreds of thousands of Arabs disappeared in the secret jails of your favorite dictators without ANY trace, not even a name on a tomb. Go and try and find some “classified” documents from Saddam’s era, or Hafez’s, or Mubarak… Good luck finding what does not exist.

          10. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol I’m waiting u old broom

          11. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “President
            Barack Obama said on Friday the CIA “tortured some folks” after the
            Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that the White House had handed over to
            Congress a report about an investigation into “enhanced interrogation
            techniques.”

            “hun”, need i continue?

            http://uruknet.info/?p=m108922&hd=&size=1&l=e

          12. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Please continue, you are just proving what I just said: we are a culture of accountability. Where the next president comes in and points out the errors of his predecessor no matter who he/she is. We investigate our crimes and punish those who are responsible.

          13. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            claiming superiority like you do only makes you sound more like a certain type of other people. Unless you claim you are not human then i can understand your claim that you don’t have good and evil within your culture.

          14. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            see your problem barabie, is that you keep paraphrasing and believing what you just invented. Printscreen the following words once and for all. We are a culture of accountability which is a word that does not exist in your culture. When our evil people (because they exist and we are convinced they exist) do something evil we catch them and punish them even if it’s 50 years later. We are a culture of values and respect, of laws and rights, where people of all color and religions live side by side and in growing harmony. Our presidents and politicians are men and women, citizens under the rule of law while in your culture they are criminals who have no respect for laws or rights, they spend their lives ruling with blood and fire and at the end you erect statues in their names and damn those who liberated you from them.
            Just carve it in your brain our society strive to be better, your society strive to be worse.

          15. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            List of US war crimes, crimes against humanity and global terrorism.

            http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/whocares/popups/warcrimes.htm

          16. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            keep it under your pillow

          17. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol u r too predictable.

    3. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      What is this crap? Has RT picked this story up?
      Abu Bakr Al- Mossadi, lol

  4. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    (Don’t want to scroll through here again …)
    Interestingly, in the ‘search engines’, whenever one puts in the word ‘barabie’, all you get is a huge page of ‘Barbie’ connections. Giving up on it, the Wiki on Barbie is interesting. Hope ‘the girls’ give up too. (Check out the real Russian one … she works out too. 😉

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