Malaysia Airlines jet shot down over Ukraine, nearly 300 dead

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ukraine-malaysian-passenger-jet-crash-pi-003A Malaysia Airlines jet carrying 295 people crashed in eastern Ukraine on Thursday and may have been shot down, Russian and Ukrainian media reported.

An advisor to Ukraine’s Interior Ministry said the Boeing 777-200ER was downed by a ground-to-air missile over territory controlled by pro-Russia separatists near the city of Donetsk.

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew members from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, when it failed to confirm its entry into Russian airspace on schedule at 5:20 p.m., Russia’s Interfax news agency said.

A midair breakup of a long-haul aircraft due to in-flight malfunction is “highly, highly unlikely,” an aviation industry consultant in the Seattle area said, raising suspicions that the plane was shot down.

The office of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said his nation’s armed forces “did not take action against any airborne targets” on Thursday. Ukrainian officials in Kiev noted in their statements on the crash that the pro-Russia rebels have shot down a number of aircraft in recent days over the territory they claim to control. Ukrainian officials earlier Thursday had accused Russian forces of being behind the downing of a Ukrainian Su-25 aircraft near Donetsk the day before.

State-controlled Russia Today television said it had been told by officials of the separatist-proclaimed Peoples Republic of Donetsk that the rebels had nothing to do with the Malaysian jet crash.

malaysia-jet-airliner-crash-20140717Russia Today also posted photos said to have been taken at the crash scene, including one showing a twisted body lying next to two airline seats and another showing a large piece of the fuselage in an open field. The pictures suggested the wreckage came down in pieces over a wide area.

The jet began losing altitude about 35 miles before entering Russian airspace and “fell down,” minutes later, setting off its emergency beacon, the Itar-Tass news agency said.

The aviation website Flightaware said the last recorded position of MH17 was made at 13:20 UTC [6:20 a.m. PDT] just west of the eastern border of Ukraine.

“This part of the world has limited coverage for us, so gaps of minutes or even an hour are not uncommon,” Flightaware said.

A Russian emergency response team was dispatched to the crash site in the village of Torez, about 25 miles west of the Russian border. The area has been the scene of fierce fighting between pro-Russia militants who have seized and occupied much of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions and Ukrainian government troops trying to recover control of the eastern territory.

The plane “disappeared from radar at 10,000 meters [33,000 feet] and then crashed near the city of Shakhtarsk in Ukraine’s Donetsk region, a source in the Ukrainian law enforcement authorities said,” according to Interfax-Ukraine.

Ukrainian Interior Ministry advisor Anton Gerashchenko said the plane was hit by a rocket fired from a Buk anti-aircraft system, which he maintained had been provided to the rebels by Russia. Ukrainian officials have accused the Kremlin of supporting the separatist rebellion, an accusation Moscow denies.

Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Ukraine’s Crimea territory to Russia in March after a swift occupation by Russian troops and a hastily organized referendum on independence. The militants in Donetsk and Luhansk regions appear to have been inspired by the Crimea seizure and some have urged Putin to annex the Ukrainian territory they have occupied since March.

“The cynicism of Putin and his terrorists has no limits,” Gerashchenko said in a post on his Facebook page in Russian, suggesting the Malaysian jet downing was also the work of pro-Russia separatists.

Malaysia Airlines reported on Twitter and Facebook that it lost contact with a plane after its last known position over Ukrainian territory.

Malaysian Prime Minister Mohd Najib Tun Razak said via Twitter that he was “shocked by reports that an MH plane crashed. We are launching an immediate investigation.”

Malaysia Airlines also lost a Boeing 777 on March 7, when Flight MH370 en route to Beijing went missing, setting off a vast search and a mystery that continues to hold the world’s attention.

According to the flight tracking website Flightaware.com, MH17 was last over Ukraine when it disappeared from tracking. The site shows that the 11-hour, 30-minute flight is a daily route between Amsterdam and Kuala Lampur for Malaysia Airlines.

Despite months of violence in the Russia-Ukraine border region, it is a “heavily trafficked” route for airlines, said Andrew Taylor, who works in aviation services for Flightaware.com. For instance, the website shows that there were more than 20 flights slated Thursday between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur.

“I’ve not seen any change in flight paths,” Taylor said. “It’s a standard route. We’re just waiting for details to see whether that will change.”

Boeing Co.’s 777 is considered one of the safest aircraft in the skies today. Nearly all of the world’s most important airlines use the planes on long-range routes. It has been a major workhorse for carriers flying from the United States to Europe and Asia.

“In-flight break-ups due to something wrong with the airplane are highly, highly unlikely, certainly suggesting an ‘outside force’ may have been involved,” said Scott Hamilton, an aviation industry consultant and managing director of Leeham Co. in Issaquah, Wash. “But until a shoot-down is confirmed, the only reaction can and should be prayers for the victims.”

In a statement, Boeing said it will provide whatever assistance is requested by authorities.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said President Obama and Putin spoke Thursday morning, at Moscow’s request, to discuss a new sanctions regime the U.S. imposed Wednesday on Russia for its alleged role in the Ukraine violence. It was unclear whether their conversation took place before Obama learned of the Malaysian airliner that crashed in Ukraine.

Earnest said the president had been briefed about the airliner crash and had instructed his staff to keep him updated, and to contact senior Ukrainian officials.

LA Times

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98 responses to “Malaysia Airlines jet shot down over Ukraine, nearly 300 dead”

  1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    Looks like the Pro Russian gangs were dumb enough to shoot a civilian plane.. let’s see what BooBama is going to say about that..

    1. AkhouManUki Avatar
      AkhouManUki

      He’ll send John Kerry to go sailing in the black sea.

    2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
      TheUSequalsTheIS

      u mean like when the US shot down an iranian airplane n killed 200 civilians. but obviously u dont care about that in the ghetto nor do u care about the first malaysia airlines crash earlier this year which also was shot down by the americans during a military exercise

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        That was published exactly where?

        1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          exactly everywhere

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            So why are they still looking for it? They would know where it was ….

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            the americans wont let anybody to find the flight recorder since that will tell the truth

          3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            oh sure.. blame everything on the americans but your angels in tehran have nothing to do with Killing innocent Syrians, Lebanese , Iraqis and many parts of the world they stick their noses in instead of focusing on their people and the economy.

          4. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            nagy why can u see how bad the iranian regime is but can’t see how they r in bed with your american heroes?

          5. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            wow so u care about the syrians AND the lebos AND the iraqis ANNNNNNNNNND ( this is the biggest ‘and’) the iranians??? is everybody in ur ghetto this compassionate or is it just u?
            apart from that the mollah regime is by far better than the west.

          6. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Yes there are good people everywhere in Iran, Syria, Iraq and lebanon and the U.S. If it was not for the US. I could be killed by now for the sake some idiot leader.. you live here if you don’t like it then get the hell out of here. go back to Iran to the gehttos of Quom and the caves and slums you have lived before.. Its only the pro khomeini who lived in the slums they were jealous of the Shah. If you supported your Shah then Iran would be a very strong power to reckon with and most of all not hated by lots of countries around it and everywhere else for that matter. But idiots like you want to live here and eat from the US then want to complain about it. feel free to go fight for Iran and maybe you might get 72 virgins with no virginas..

          7. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            except for some few brainwashed westerners nobody in the world hates iran especially not in leb… this is why i numerous times have recommended u to leave ur nasty ghetto in order to see the real world outside. those very few who hate iran feel so bcos iran already is a strong n powerful nation n they wud like to weaken us.

            n just that u know iran doesnt have any slum neighborhoods like u do in america… we certainly have a lot of poor neighborhoods but even the poorest is by far better than the slum ghetto u live in

          8. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            They already payed compensations to the family despite the plane leaving from the area fighter jets left. They didn’t deny it but they didn’t take responsibility for the deaths other than family compensation considering it was stupid for Iranian planes filled with Civilians leave from the same airport Iran’s American made f-14s used to attack American naval ships.

          9. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “Iran’s American made f-14s used to attack American naval ships”
            hmmm I wonder where they purchased those f-14s from….

            Let me guess. The US via Israel?

            What did Iraq have? MIGs.
            Yet somehow people still can’t see the forest for the trees.

          10. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Thats what I said…. Lol

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            You want MY Theory??
            The plane was carrying a large number of people important to the World AIDS organizations. AIDS was originally largely found in the ‘Gay’ communities. Russia (Communists) always claimed they never had any AIDS problem … and no Gays either … just like they had no disabled or disadvantaged people for a Paralympics team …
            And we know how the Olympics was a such a Gay time there recently …
            SO …. Why not eliminate a bunch of representatives of the AIDS Researchers?
            Blame will fall on somebody …. 😉
            (maybe Wargame has a passage related to it … ;-))

          12. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            tayyeb lets move on to the victims of 9/11 killed by the american government. dont they as well desverve it?

          13. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Wow you believe in that lol.

          14. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            It’s not their fault but they paid compensation. Haha real idiot’s “logic”.

          15. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            But somehow they let u find out the truth.
            Now please also tell us the truth about why it rained this morning in Sydney.
            And why my bra snapped off last night.

          16. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Yeah baby.

          17. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i dunno maybe the mullahs in tehran caused the rain showers in sydney bcos they hate the australians sooooo much

          18. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            i knew those mullahs had something to do with it. i bet they had something to do with my bra too, just to embarrass me for not wearing a burqa.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            If that’s your pic, there’s NO reason to be embarrassed. ;-))

          20. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            dont be mad at them they just wanted to see some wet t-shirts in the streets like in the wet t-shirt contests

          21. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Irani is on the ball the conspiracy theories just makes people’s lives so much more xciting.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            facts are so damn boring … for sure …

          23. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            To deny there r conspiracies is a conspiracy.

          24. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            this is the newest one: according to barbie there were these rain showers in sydney this morning. my conspiracy theory however is that the mollahs caused them bcos they hate the australians

          25. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            show us the site..

      2. master09 Avatar
        master09

        Toward the end of the war, on July 3, 1988, a U.S. Navy ship called the Vincennes was exchanging fire with small Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf. The U.S. Navy kept ships there, and still does, to protect oil trade routes. As the American and Iranian ships skirmished, Iran Air Flight 655 took off from nearby Bandar Abbas International Airport, bound for Dubai. The airport was used by both civilian and military aircraft. The Vincennes mistook the lumbering Airbus A300 civilian airliner for a much smaller and faster F-14 fighter jet, perhaps in the heat of battle or perhaps because the flight allegedly did not identify itself. It fired two surface-to-air missiles, killing all 290 passengers and crew members on board.

        1. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          So the yanks with all their “sophisticated” equipment couldn’t tell the difference between a jet fighter measuring 19m and weighing 18,190kgs and a civilian airliner measuring 54m and weighing 172600kgs…

          I guess like the israelis couldn’t tell the Liberty from El Quseir which “was approximately one-quarter of the Liberty’s tonnage, about one-half its length, and offered a radically different silhouette.”
          “Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty
          survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed
          his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

          Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot’s radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

          The pilot’s protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.”

          Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel’s story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.

          1. In other words, it was a false flag operation rather than a friendly fire one? Between 1948 to 1967, it appears that Israel was getting most of its arms from Western European countries such as France and Eastern European countries such as Czechoslovakia. However after 1967, it somehow changed to the U.S. being the biggest suppliers because the other countries were in disagreement over the occupation of the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza Strip, West Bank and Golan Heights by Israel.

          2. libnan1 Avatar

            Nice Bazokas barabie …. Agree with your statement. Sometimes you do make sense.

        2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          oh in that case everything is forgiven… everybody is entitled to kill anybody as long it is a ‘mistake’. i dunno why but it makes me hope all israelis wud die by accident as well

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            One side or the other, Irani. Either way would stop the killing. Wouldn’t it?? 😉

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        no i could careless about any iranians who are living. because if they’re all like and behave like terrorists then yes i would rather them dead.. there you go.. from the Get Co..
        And the U.S. is much more classier than you ever think or do you ever think.. The U.S. would have admitted if it was wrong and even paid for the damages and paid off the families. Unlike your gangs in Tehran paying terrorists around the world to cause havoc and destruction. so the less terrorists the better it is..

        1. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          That is disgusting of u nagy!
          Very disappointed in you, those people on that Iranian flight were CIVILIANS!
          Don’t become as bad as the terrorists.

          1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            You are right Barabie I let my anger take over this assholes call himself Angel.. the only thing he is the Angel of death. I apologize for the brave iranian people who are fighting such corrupt regime in Iran..

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            apology accepted…. NOT

          3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            I apologize for the descent Iranian people who are the majority of your nation for having to live under the mentality like yours and your damned regime. I feel terrible for their tragedy because their so called leaders spends more money on war then their welfare. they spend more money on Hezbollah and funding terrorism around the world instead of their people. I feel bad for the likes of Nadia lying down on the street with blood coming out of her mouth while the security forces that included Hezbollah prohibited the Ambulance to take her to the hospital. i feel bad for the protesters who get f..ked in the ass by so called conservative regime that condemns homosexuality but yet they f..k their own people. Forget about what american doing for a change and just look at yourselves and shame on you for siding for such arrogant and ignorant bastards who are controlling the people by force. where is the democracy dude.. you are as f..ked as they come..

          4. sweetvirgo Avatar
            sweetvirgo

            Don’t hold back….tell us how you feel ;))

            I know sometimes it just gets to the point where you just have to vent

          5. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            if a descent iranian is an iranian who wants the US to take over iran the way they have taken over all other countries in the region then i have to disappoint u as there is ZERO that kind of descent iranian

          6. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Iran was fine under the Shah and was getting very sophisticated while the Late Shah was doing well in the western hemisphere. it was Israel and Turkey and others who want Iran disintegrated. well you dumb idiots followed Kakameniah and look what happened to you.

          7. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            unfortunately u didnt get it the first time so imma post it again n again until u finally do:

            if a descent iranian is an iranian who wants the US to take over iran the way they have taken over all other countries in the region then i have to disappoint u as there is ZERO that kind of descent iranian

          8. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            First the US is not taken over any countries and judging from Iraq they withdrew from there and now soon from afghanistan. Your logic is wrong because it will never happen. Maybe Israel but not the US and Americans will stand against their gov’t if they tried to do anyway. so keep reposting cause history have not taught you anything. but of course ignorance is a bliss and you seem to have lots of that..

        2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          n i cud care less about the americans who lost their lives at the attack on world trade center in ny.
          as for iranians being terrorists i wud like to tell u that maybe this is what u believe in the west but in the real world everybody knows who the terrorists r which goes widout saying.
          iranians at least dont vote for the ‘terrorists’ running our country but in the west they actually VOTE for these terrorists like they always have n always will… so r u saying that terrorists r good as long they r elected?
          even if the mullahs were in fact terrorists they look like angels compared to the westerners. please pack up ur bs.

          1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Yah i am being terrorized everyday while living in the US. Oh God please send me back to Lebanon i can’t take it anymore.. you’re totally idiot and a sore looser i can tell.

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            but u r high on drugs… the bad side of leaving leb for a ghetto in america

          3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Farq or IraniAngel you just keep assuming things. i never smoke or drink. you keep trying to piss me off and keep mentioning the ghetto. say what you like i could careless for I know I live better life than you for sure.. because you are trying to bring me down cause of my disgust with people like you who support anarchy and evil. that’s what evil do spread more evil. why don’t you come out and call yoursel IraniEvil.. or are you a Lebanese shiites who support hezbollah? most iranians do not care about them because their gov’t is helping hezbollah more than them.. anyway its useless to hold a discussion with ignorant and arrogant idiots who wants to spread lies and deceit and wreak havoc on earth. this is this the communist motto and they hate anybody who is better then them. so they label drug users, live in the ghetto (my guess is you live there cause i don’t know what it looks like).. people like are jealous.. you remind of people like SSNP they used to kill Lebanese and show off they did. the main reason they say he was capitalist.. but all cause of their jealousy.. you bunch of killers and murderors and thugs. just like those pro russian militants who shot the malaysian plane and now and even hiding bodies.. what a pathetic and disgusting beings you are..you just like them a low life with no where to go.. i am not talking or responding to criminals anymore like you. You jealous of the west because you can’t seem to take off your turbans.. dumb dumb..

          4. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            oh my allah r u a muslim?

      4. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        IraniAngel I suppose you were right on this one but US didn’t hide anything and here part of the information i got off one site:
        Where the US at least paid off the families of the passengers.
        Have Iran compensated the civilians who were killed by bombing the embassies in the 80’s and the Marine Barracks that killed 256 marines? .. I guess not.. did Iran deny it of course they did..
        Here is part of the article written on the incident..
        In 1996, the United States and Iran reached “an agreement in full and final settlement of all disputes, differences, claims, counterclaims” relating to the incident at the International Court of Justice.[7] As part of the settlement, the United States agreed to pay US$61.8 million, an average of $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims. However, the United States has never admitted responsibility, nor apologized to Iran.[8]

        To this day, Iran Air still uses flight number IR655 on the Tehran–Dubai route as a memorial to the victims, contrary to the informal convention amongst many other airlines that discontinue flight numbers associated with tragedies.

        1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          7abibi im always right bcos unlike u i dont live in a ghetto. i’m from the real world.
          but the US still havent paid compensation for the victims of 9/11???? why??????

          1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            because bastards like you are Kuffars and liars and you deserve to have IS next to you knocking on your door soon inshallah.. You keep trying to bring up the Ghetto i lived in a town in Lebanon unlike your kind who lives underground and lived a good life unlike you who are bitter at the world for not feeding them.. Do not worry I will throw a bone or two when i am done with the meat..

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i thought IS n iran were friends…. i was wrong about that?

          3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            yes they are but Suleimeini wants to keep them as a threat otherwise what is Iran waiting for? why is Assad not bombing the hell out of them day and night. he is not even doing that in his own backyard.. it a game little children like you do not understand. i do not follow anybody unlike you scavengers who looks for guidance from Idiot like Khomeini and Nassrallah, Aoun or jumblatt.. whomever they get their bread crums..

          4. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            khomeini died 30 yrs ago

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            True. The new El Supremo has a different letter in his name. 😉

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      It doesn’t even need a gang … just a couple of their brain-dead guys sitting in a field or on a desert somewhere with the right weapon in their hands … who haven’t had a chance to fire it lately, or since they grabbed it from somewhere, but suddenly find a target presenting itself.
      Disturbing to know there ARE a lot of them these days.
      And a lot of unaccounted-for weapons floating around too.

      They made it horribly aggravating just to fly. Now they will stop the public flying at all.
      As Geo says: ‘enemies of true humanity’. The uber-dumb and badly educated.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Notes:
        A missile platform like the SA-11 Gadfly relies on its operator to know which radar contacts are safe to shoot and which are not; this means the transponder codes are crucial information. Once fired, the SA-11′s missiles hunt down the target with a 95 percent interception rate, no matter who’s on the receiving end. The more advanced SA-17 Grizzly can apparently determine when it’s latched onto a civilian transponder code, but that won’t stop the operator from taking the shot.
        Advanced surface-to-air systems like the SA-17 are transponder aware, meaning they can detect if they are targeting an airliner. Civilian airlines are constantly broadcasting a four-digit transponder, known as an IFF code, that designates aircraft as civilian. The code would be detected by the SA-17 if the weapons system attempted to lock on or “paint” MH17.

        “It’s easy to tell the difference between a civilian aircraft or not, if you’re a skilled radar operator,” Swiggart said. “There’s really no excuse to shoot down an airliner unless you were trying to.”

  2. The enemies of true humanity refuse to differentiate between civilian targets and military ones. simply disgustingly sad. No respect for life is an epidemic.

  3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
    TheUSequalsTheIS

    ok thats it! nobody is allowed to travel wid malaysia airlines anymore since they keep falling down from the sky

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Or, flying over Ukraine, Gaza, Syria, the USA, and ….. 250 other countries …

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Apparently their stocks dropped like a stone after this second plane went down – even though the reason is known. The ‘Market Boys’ will kill the airline … maybe save insurance companies from making the payouts. 😉

      1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        u r kidding right? lol

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Well Irani … not about the stocks.
          Knowing ‘business-heads’ a little, I surmise the rest. One never knows for sure. But we know how much they enjoy paying off on a ‘benefit’. 😉
          Hell … even the Retirement Plans we paid for are in danger these days.

  4. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    If you cant call Russia’s Separatists terrorists then i dont think you know the definition of a terrorist.

    1. bypest Avatar

      Enlighten us, please. The UN has its interpretation of what constitutes terrorism, but the world powers seem to understand the term as little more than a convenient label to pin on their weaker, non-state enemies. It would be a mistake to mix together libel with reality.

      As concerns an act of terror, the UN recognizes intention to harm non-combatants as key, especially if the purpose, going beyond simple nihilism, is to “intimidate a population or compel a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act.”

      With regards to this story, nothing of the sort has been established. Evidence indicates that the passenger plane was mistaken for a military aircraft – which, if correct, makes the downing a simple tragedy.

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        Why are they trying to take Ukraine in the first place with arms? After they take towns over they vandalize buildings and houses to suit their military needs, including breaking apartment windows. And after they seize control through force and intimidation no one is allowed to come or leave. No drinking water, food, electricity, or gas. That is for everyone except the mercenaries. I watched a report where the reporter actually interviewed a few people after Ukraine regained a city from the separatists. Let me know if you would like to see it.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          bypest probably doesn’t see that total disruption of people’s lives, and the physical threats, as terrorism … just normal political re-arranging of borders by ‘rightists’ who don’t believe they ever left Russia and want everything their way – they liked the Theif Dictator who was running the place before.
          Made them feel ‘at home’. Didn’t realize there were really Ukrainians.

  5. cook2half Avatar
    cook2half

    All I will say is I know which airline I will never fly with..

    1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
      TheUSequalsTheIS

      Iran Air?

      1. cook2half Avatar
        cook2half

        Despite the missing parts they seem to have a better record than Air Malaysia 🙂

        1. sweetvirgo Avatar
          sweetvirgo

          Cook is that you?? Where the fa la la have you been??

          1. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I did post here with different names but I kept getting bans from CNN haha

          2. sweetvirgo Avatar
            sweetvirgo

            LOL….welcome back

          3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            im glad at least some ban the zionist trolls lol

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Talk about missing parts … I think ‘the locals who shot it down’ are making off with even the body-parts. They can’t get an ‘Air-disaster-team’ into the place.
          Rebuilding that plane in a hanger somewhere over the next 2 years to ‘reconstruct’ exactly what may have hit it or happened may never occur.
          Flowers that were sent were stopped from arriving. Candles were lit in other countries – can’t send those either. Relatives might as well just collect the insurance and get on with their own lives. Poof.

  6. East Ukrainian “separatists” are terrorists, created by Russia’s regime, like PLO and “Falsetinian people” created in Soviet Union KGB regime in 1964 https://www.google.com/search?q=hamas+children&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=g0DJU5_UMIHB7AaE3YHADw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1024&bih=631

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    patriotss

    ukraine government is to blame i would sue the government?????

    y was a civilian plane allowed to fly the same coursearea after two planes befor this were shot down?????

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