Israeli PM will insist settlers live in future Palestine, report

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netanyahu upsetIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will insist that Jewish settlers in the West Bank have a right to remain under Palestinian rule in any future peace deal, a government official was quoted as saying on Sunday.

The apparent trial balloon, reported on the English-language Times of Israel website, drew a no-comment from a spokesman for Netanyahu and angry words from Naftali Bennett, a key pro-settlement partner in his governing coalition.

“The idea of Jewish settlements under Palestinian sovereignty is very dangerous and reflects an irrationality of values,” Bennett wrote on his Facebook page.

The Israeli report quoted an official in Netanyahu’s office as saying he did not intend to uproot Jewish settlements anywhere in the West Bank, land that Palestinians seek for a state under U.S.-brokered peace talks showing few signs of progress since they resumed in July after a three-year break.

Netanyahu would “insist that settlers be given the free choice of remaining in place and living under Palestinian rule, or relocating to areas under Israeli sovereign rule,” the official was quoted as saying.

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Friday, Netanyahu said he did not intend to uproot a single settler in a future Palestinian statehood agreement.

The Times of Israel quoted the unidentified official as saying Netanyahu’s idea of allowing settlers the option of staying in their homes under Palestinian rule fell under that pledge.

Some Israeli political commentators suggested the leak was aimed at heading off settler opposition to a framework deal, or as guidelines for a final peace agreement that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has been trying to formulate.

Bennett, leader of the Jewish Home party and an advocate of Israeli annexation of the West Bank, demanded in his Facebook post that Netanyahu “immediately refute this dangerous proposal.”

There was no immediate Palestinian reaction to the report.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has already balked at an Israeli demand to keep an Israeli troop presence in the Jordan Valley, an area likely to be the eastern border of a Palestinian state.

Israel captured the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip in the 1967 Middle East war. Palestinians seek to establish a state in those areas and fear that settlements, which most countries view as illegal and an obstacle to peacemaking, will deny them a viable country.

More than 500,000 Israeli settlers live among 2.4 million Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. In 2005, Israel pulled its troops and settlers out the Gaza Strip, now controlled by Hamas Islamists opposed to the U.S.-brokered peace efforts.

Reuters

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228 responses to “Israeli PM will insist settlers live in future Palestine, report”

  1. man-o-war Avatar

    If thats the case, Palestinians living in Israel should have the option to stay in Israel. Only fair, right nutenyahoo? No land transfers or exchanges, as suggested by Lieberman.

    You think this will get cook2long out of hiding?

    1. well….hate to burst your bubble man but this is what we’ve been saying all along 🙂
      who ever is israeli citizen can stay an israeli citizen AS LONG as israelis living there can stay as well.
      it’s dear ol’Abbas who keeps saying the new PA will be a “jew clean” state..we are more advanced then this racict bastard 😛
      incase he keeps refusing democracy then yes…we’d dump the israeli arabs on him and take the jews for ourselfs- eye for an eye

      1. Sorry to burst YOUR bubble , but I think you have to take a long hard look in the mirror and see what your people have been doing for the last sixty year , let me help you , with a link down below….
        Since the Israeli invasion and the declaration of the state in 1948, Israel attempted to prevent the return of the refugees by every means
        possible, including shooting the returnees as “infiltrators”. Israel thwarted the efforts of CCP to facilitate the return of the refugees. Ben
        Gurion engineered the tripartite campaign against Egypt in 1956 in the hope of altering irrevocably the status of the Armistice line, giving it a
        mark of permanency. He proposed several schemes to relocate the Palestinian refugees in Sinai, Jordan and even Iraq. All such schemes
        have failed.

        The Israelis claim the right of occupation, since they were in a state of self defense
        against the Arab Invasion. They also claim that the refugees had left on Arab orders, not by Israeli

        to read our rebuttal to this myth). They also claim
        that it is difficult now to find the boundaries of the village lands, as so much has been altered. Much of this study has been devoted to show,
        using Israeli sources, that these claims are “sheer fabrication”.

        1. master09 Avatar

          Both sides are rite and both sides are wrong and this is where it will stay, hate to bust the bubble but reality is that. As long as the other side is wrong we will talk about this for another 1000 years.

          1. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            1000? most likely yes

        2. first: no israeli invation lol…don’t twist the facts. we got our state, you lot didn’t agree, we took care of things. simple as that
          the rest is kind of offtopic since your basic assumption is false

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            But you were not there then either. ‘we’ is misused for sure.

          2. so can barabie/ btru2u give up their claim as well??

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Why would they want to move back?? This I don’t understand. At all. 😉

          4. i don’t know them so i can’t talk about their motives.
            almost as hot as a frying pan you mean ? 🙂

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yah … flambed. 😉

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            pssssst..!,, they’r not Palestinians

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, ok … you don’t like the cold. 😉

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Keep it right and simple, Btru2u….
          Brits ‘invaded’. Gave it to Jews. Arabs attempted to ‘invade’.
          After that, it’s only been HELL. (With a beach. :-))))

          1. don’t know about the hell part 5th’.
            we had our problems with the arabs but we learned to live with that.
            all and all , it is the promised land 😉

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, sure looks like it’s been hell for everyone to me – whatever the %ages.
            And I’m not even mentioning the summer heat.

          3. love the summer here ,nothing like a cold sweet watermelon on the beach.
            almost no power shortage so A/C working great.
            i only wish we had more rain in winter time. so far it seems as if global warming is no myth:(

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Global warming is no myth.
            ‘They’ just forget that the human contribution part is ‘simply’ because there’s more all the time – humans AND contribution. 😉

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Arabs attempted to ‘invade’ who? When Israel became a State in 1948, Arab attacked because, like for all of “normal” people they tougth Palestinians would live there..Israel expelled them and kept their properties..don’t tell me in the cities Palestians were poor, they had villas.

      2. http://www.palestineremembered.Com/Acre/Right-Of-Return/Story442.html

        Think hard before you come here bragging… How do you people sleep at night….

        1. giving me a pali reading material is equal to hearing it from a pali..has the same credibility.
          apologize for being blunt here but it’s really important you understand. fake past does not make a fake people real

      3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        More like donkey for a camel than eye to eye.

  2. Thats Ok, sounds like a good idea…. They can live under Palestinian rule if they want to stay and have to go to border crossings manned by Palestinians where they will make them wait in line for hours and then turn them back! On top of that they can pay tax to the Palestinian state too and live by their rules…. But I doubt that this will ever happen….. Lol

  3. If the rulers of the new state can’t decide who stays , comes and goes, who is actually in control here…..No Deal. But the full Right of Return for all displaced Palestinians,…..continue with the revolution…sooner or later ..we are coming for you, ..66 years on ,Israel does not belong…..

    1. so rulers of PA can kick jews out but we’re forced to acomodate your people???? get real..we’ll never accept this.
      equal rights means equal rights. i know palis got used to the idea that little cry will get you anywhere but anywhere stops here
      have fun accomodating to this

      1. The Jews u r talking about settled on occupied territory. The Palestinians were already in “Israel” when u occupied it. U can not compare settlers to indigenous people.

        1. it depends on when you start counting from barabie.
          if you count since 1890’s- to 1910’s (around) then you are right
          if you count since anciant age, you have no claim on the land
          if we count since 1951 same.
          truth is in the eye of the beholder

          1. Mate cut the BS. The Jews I am talking about r the ones building settlements (which are illegal under international laws) and any country has the right to evict illegal settlements. The Palestinians you are talking about were there before the Brits gave u Palestine and hence that makes legal residents of that land

          2. they didnt authorize my response :(…
            probably too harsh truth for them to handle.
            basicly i disagree with you 100%

          3. To you might is right, so I take it your people haven’t learnt their hard lessons of the past…..
            Time will tell, we will see what will happen….
            Enjoy your worldly life .

          4. we all learn all the time.the lesson is different to different eyes i guess.
            wish you the best,enjoy your life as well, i have no personal enmity with you

          5. it doesn’t hurst me if you have enmity towards me, but what hurts, is the pain your people left on the indigenous population, I have heard personal emotional wreck stories of the horror your people inflicted, through murder,torture, theft of land and property.

            On May 14, Israelis will commemorate the 66th anniversary of their “War of Independence” and founding of the Jewish State. It also marks 66 years of Palestinian Nakba suffering. The web site http://www.alnakba.Org recounts the history:

            – from the late Ottoman empire period; to

            – the birth of Zionism; to

            – the early Jewish colonization of Palestine; to

            – the 1917 Balfour Declaration support for a “Jewish national home in Palestine;” to

            – the simultaneous British betrayal of the indigenous Arabs; to

            – the British occupation; to

            – its delayed promised end; to

            – the founding of the Haganah underground military organization; to

            – the first British (1922) Palestine census showing a population of 757,182 – 78% Muslim, 11% Jewish and 9.6% Christian; to

            – the official 1923 establishment of the British Mandate period; to

            – the 1920s Jewish population increase to 16% on 4% of Palestinian land; to

            – the terrorist Irgun (IZT) National Military Organization established in 1931; to

            – the terrorist Stern Gang founded in 1939; to

            – the 1945 Jewish population growth to 31% of the total; to

            – the October 1947 US endorsement of partitioning Palestine at a time Palestinians comprised two-thirds of the population and Jews one-third; to

            – the November 1947 UN General Assembly Resolution 181 to end the British Mandate by August 1, 1948 and partition Palestine – 56% to Jews, the remainder to Palestinians, and for Jerusalem to be an international city; to

            – Britain recommending (in December) an end to Mandate Palestine on May 15, 1948 and independent Jewish and Palestinian states to be established two weeks later; to

            – Harry Truman secretly meeting Chaim Weizmann at the White House on March 25, 1948 and pledging support for the declaration of Israel on May 15; to

            – the State of Israel established at 4PM on May 14, 1948; to

            – the official end of the British Mandate on May 15; to

            – Harry Truman recognizing the Jewish State on the same day.

            David Ben-Gurion was Israel’s first prime minister. On March 10, 1948, he met with leading Zionists and young Jewish military officers in Tel-Aviv’s “Red House.” They finalized plans to ethnically cleanse Palestine through a process of siege, intimidation and terror – to bomb and depopulate villages and cities; massacre innocent people; burn homes, property and goods; and prevent expelled Palestinians from returning.

            Dalet (Plan D) was the final master plan. It was for war without mercy – mass slaughter, targeted assassinations, rapes, other atrocities, displacement and destruction. It was to establish an exclusive Jewish State without an Arab presence.

          6. there you go again..every arab can remember with details everything israel has ever done but somehow you keep forgeting you started the war!
            the man who throws a candel into a stack of hei ‘can’t complain about the fire damage!

          7. The War Ended – State Terrorism Was Just Beginning

            Throughout 1949 in the war’s aftermath, Israel pursued another one – a war of terror against the remaining Arab population. It set a six decade precedent. Israel now belonged to Jews. Arabs were unwelcome. State security forces cracked down to show how much.

            Thousands of displaced Palestinians were rounded up and imprisoned. Others were targeted, harassed and abused. They lost everything – their land, homes, fields, crops, places of worship, freedom of movement and expression, and any hope for fair treatment in the new Jewish State.

            Naked and undisguised racism confronted them. They were issued identity cards with penalties up to 1.5 years in prison and immediate transfer to an “unauthorized” and “suspicious” Arab pen if caught without them.

            Persecution was relentless, much the way it is today. Roadblocks and checkpoints went up, curfews imposed, violators shot on sight, and systematic abuse inflicted. In addition, thousands of Palestinians were conscripted, sent to labor camps, and forced to help build the new Jewish state. Conditions there were deplorable. Quarry laborers performed arduous work, carried heavy rocks, and had to live on one potato and half a dried fish for daily sustenance. Complainers or slackers were beaten, many severely. Others, considered a threat, were simply shot.

            Other Arabs weren’t treated much better. Human rights abuses were appalling. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) documented them. Palestinians (now Israeli citizens) got no protections and were afforded no rights. They were subjected to relentless abuses. Their mosques were profaned, schools vandalized, homes robbed and at times stripped bare in broad daylight. Palestinians reported that not a single home or Arab shop escaped the onslaught. Authorities did nothing to deter it. They made things worse.

            Palestinians (inside Israel) were transfered from their homes, moved to undesired locations, crammed into confined ghettos, they became open-air prisons, and treatment there was horrific. The ICRC and UN reported beatings, rapes and other abuses. Israel was undergoing transformation. Its Arab character was being erased. It affected about 150,000 remaining Arab Israelis in the new Jewish State.

            Formal ethnic cleansing ended in 1949, dispossession and displacements nonetheless continued, and a new Committee for Arab Affairs was established to defuse growing international pressure to enforce UN Resolution 194, especially the right of return under Article 11.

            Arab Israelis lost all their rights and were placed under military rule. In addition, discriminatory laws were passed, like the Law of the Land of Israel. It stipulated that the Jewish National Fund (JNF – the Jewish State landowner) was forbidden to sell or lease land to non-Jews.

            From inception, Israel has had no formal constitution. It’s governed instead by its Basic Law. Nine laws were passed between 1958 and 1988, all of which pertained to the institutions of state. No basic rights were enacted until 1992. That year, the Basic Law: Human Dignity and Freedom was passed authorizing the Knesset to overturn laws contrary to the right to dignity, life, freedom, privacy, property and to leave and enter the country. The law states: “There shall be no violation of the life, body or dignity of any person. All persons are entitled to protection” of these rights, and “There shall be no deprivation or restriction of the liberty of a person by imprisonment, arrest, extradition or otherwise.”

            Israeli Basic Laws are for Jews only. Arab Israelis have no rights under them with one exception – the right to run for public office in the Knesset, become a nominal legislative member, but have no power beyond a public stage for their views to be shouted down and ignored.

            Palestinians have endured six decades of shattered hope and dreams. They were uprooted from their homes, denied their basic rights, given little outside recognition or aid, blamed for Israeli crimes, terrorized without mercy, falsely promised peace, yet condemned to a state of siege under which nothing will change without outside pressure to force it.

            Since 1948, Palestinians have lived in a state of limbo. Their Nakba never ended. What’s left of their country is occupied. They have no recognized nation and no power over their daily lives. They live in constant fear. They’re economically strangled; dispossessed of their land and homes; isolated under siege; collectively punished; denied free movement; casually murdered; ruthlessly arrested, imprisoned and tortured; afflicted by random curfews; invaded, bombed, and shot at; extra-judicially assassinated; and constricted by roadblocks, checkpoints, electric fences and the Separation Wall that the World Court ruled illegal.

            Israel: The World’s “Worst Brand”

            That’s according a 2006 National Brands Index (NBI) study. On November 22, 2006, Israel Today reported the findings. They were compiled by “government advisor Simon Anholt and powered by global market intelligence solutions provider GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.).”

            The survey polled 25,903 “online consumers” in 35 countries across the world. It was to measure respondents perceptions “across six areas of national competence,” including governance, people, culture, heritage and immigration.

            “Israel’s brand (was) by a considerable margin the most negative we have ever measured in the NBI, and (came) at the bottom of the ranking on almost every question (asked about 36 countries).”

            Israel was ranked the least desired country to visit. Its people were ranked the “most unwelcoming in the world.” Surprisingly, Americans were as negative as others. They “ranked Israel slightly above China in terms of its conduct in the areas of international peace and security.”

            Other recent opinion surveys report similar results. It’s encouraging to know that well over half of all Europeans rank Israel “the biggest threat to world peace” according to a 2003 European Commission poll. Israel is a pariah state. That’s the view of millions around the world in spite of dominant media efforts to say otherwise. Israel calls it growing anti-Semitism. That, of course, is rubbish. Jews and Israelis aren’t being singled out – only their criminal leaders. World public opinion justifiably condemns them.

            Commemorating the Unforgivable

            Jews in Israel and around the world will commemorate May 14. It’s the 60th anniversary of the State of Israel’s founding. Thousands of other Jews everywhere along with everyone of conscience stand with the Canadian Palestine Support Network (CalPalNet). They cannot celebrate. They will not celebrate. They remember the Nakba. They know it continues. They condemn 41 years of occupation; the starving and bombing of Gaza; the oppressive Separation Wall; the theft of Palestinian land; the building of illegal settlements; the denial of the right of return; the killings, torture, imprisonment and harassment; the denial of basic human rights; and Israel’s disdain for international law.

            They “can (and) will continue (their) efforts to end these injustices, uphold international law,” and support every UN resolution demanding it. “This is the only road map to peace.” They, with millions of others, won’t ever stop working for it.

            Now you can choose to live in ignorance which is darkeness, or you can enlighten your self with the facts and the join the movement for justice for the wronged people. After all this life is a test ,and you will be accountable for your actions, which will determine your eternal abode…..

            CHOOSE WISELY….

          8. are you done? lol
            funny but my end of the story is a bit different, i wouldn’t go and put it all here as you will not read it (i have to say i didn’t read everything you wrote too, it’s too long).
            byond that, i don’t know what you complain about! arabs kill arabs on mass distruction.
            stavation, bombing chemicals but mostly bullets,shells and knives
            you keep gushing about us the arch-murderers but you should really grow out of this and look at reality.
            no one is starving in gazza! not having pasta is not starving, if you want to know what starving is look at yarmook/allepo/homs
            infact, we’re the ONLY nation in mid-east that works under int law. no barabie, pointing a finger at israel does not bleach away atrocities arabs are guilty of. pointing at us and shouting “look at this murderer” kind of loosing it’s edge thses days.
            beyond all,Barabie, remember this: in 20+ years of intifada 9k arabs died.
            in 3+ years of arab winter, how many died? and what way?
            no sir! not one of your arab regiems and countries can even compare to israeli morality.
            i learned the right lesson, have you?

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Besides … pasta just make us fat … I cut Kraft Dinner down to 2 a month. :-))))

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (naked? … someone said naked ??? … mmmm)

          11. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Wasn’t me, I think it was betruuut2u

          12. I hope you see the truth now,

          13. truth is no painting,
            if i’ll show you pics of jewish sufferings, blown up bussess, pic’s of little babies butchered by arabs etc’, would you see things my way? ofcourse not

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            A Picture is worth a thousand words (bis).

          15. indeed they are Hind,indeed they are.
            the F’r with the bloody hands just finished butchering this two reserved soldiers, behind him you can see his commrads getting ready to throw the bodies to the mob.down stairs.
            he is no different then others BUT..you’d be happy to know we nailed him and all the others savages.unfortunatly, there is no death penalty in israel so thes MFr’s are still alive and serving time.
            we are wayyyyy more humanitarian then that

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And for ALLLLL ‘sides’, the look in the eyes of the child says it all.
            Where IS the ‘religion’, and who is if for? Where did ‘education’ go?
            The Father with the broken heart cannot tell us, or the boy, the answers.

          17. on that we agree

          18. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            That’s what you get for waking up in vegas. Eye for an eye philosophy, this will never end it’s a cycle you guys believe in.

          19. an ey for an eye means we’d mutilat the bodies of palis
            since we’re not doing that , will you please be so kind and stop bitching around on how crule we are when you are such saints??? hypocrite

          20. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hypocrite !!!

          21. ?????
            mybe i wasnt clear. i was saying that if we want to look Palistinians in the eye as equal, we’d have to get really low as to mutilate and decapitate every terrorist we kill and we will never get there

          22. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’m no hypocrite and I’m certainly no saint, but I can honestly say I have never stepped on no bodies honour to get what I have, and I go to sleep at night comfortable in knowing that I treat all people the way I like to be treated. And I don’t think you are in my category, doron you guys are an embarrassment to humanity, but it’s not just you people alone, your cousins are of the same strand so hold on to your intolerance of others and apply your eye for an eye your doing well.

          23. i’m a shame to humanity cause i expose the pictures that bring your shame to the surrface???
            get real, there is no shame in truth

          24. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You have pictures of me exposed please post them and share the truth you are proud of.

          25. i didnt mean your shame as in personal shame but more of arabs performing such killings.
            and your waking up in vegas comment was disrespect for the dead

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You are not! Read the book Moshe Dayan: Sacred Terrorism ? :
            “We must create Wars in order to get what we want”

            and.. you need create terrorism for moraly justify it…

          27. well…you started it all baby girl.
            moshe dayan was not in charge in 1929 when arabs massacared jews 🙂
            did you know that many in israel hold dayan accounted to the PA problem?
            during 6 days war, he gave orders to stop arabs from fleeing to jordan for the reason that they are our neihbours and shouldn’t be harmed.some believe that had he not done that, there were no pali problems

          28. and you need israel as a smoke screen to your own population. that way you can pretend to fight for them whille stealing their freedom

          29. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Whath smoke sreen? I can’t connmmunicate with you.. i am sick of listening to the defenders of Israel that call Palestinsan; palis…what about calling you yiidz

          30. lol..i was throwing charges at you as if you were Abbas and plo leadership lol
            i apologise, i was acctually refering to them :)))
            palistiniane is a long word and english is not my first language.
            i’m not a europian as more then half of population is so Yiid is not the right word
            you can call us isr or jews if you’d like. i take no offence

          31. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Jews are the experts at crying for sympathy, Palos can’t match you guys.

          32. really? so what is it you’ve been doing for the last 60 years??
            execpt for some failed lame attempts to take the land by force, you made an art of crying.
            when jews cried we had no army to defend us, you had 6 armies and still crying
            look at the mirror for defects before you look at me

          33. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Doron when I look at myself in the mirror, I see a good looking bloke who is lucky to be living in Oz. I haven’t taken no man’s land by force, I haven’t caused no man to cry, again when I look in the mirror and if you were me you’d understand that it’s a good for the eyes.

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            lots of contemporary writers nobel prizes philosphers have condemned Zionism
            You’re not going to make me weep for your sufferings and not Palestinian sufferings. Palestinians didn’t invade Europe. You came to their land, and since 75 yrs demolishing homes, confiscating land, uprooting thousand of olive trees- EVERY DAY- symbols o
            the Mediteranian since the Stone-Age. God shose them to destroy..

          35. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (did something disappear under that pic since this morning? I could swear there was more …. hmmm)

          36. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ..it disapeared in memory of times.

          37. so begin was a terrorist, no one denys that.
            btw, what am i reading? what is the date? how on earth can you use that as a proof to what you say?please stick to facts
            i’ll make it easier for you and simple: Etzel was established in 1931, in response to the arab massacare of 1929(!)can you spot where your history is against you?
            133 jews were murdered at the time and begin along with others were fed up with the Hagana “soft” defence for jews
            i love it how you never allow facts confuse you

          38. 5thDrawer Avatar

            She has a treasure-trove of history … but it is history.
            As we see, no-one is learning to make a future from it.

          39. she doesnt know history! or if she does she twists it in her mind till it fits her belief.
            all she does is throw a bunch of pic’s designed to provok emotional support to her cause…please…every side has these pics and i can bomb the blog with dead jewish children but it’s the lowest propaganda ever

          40. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s basically what I mean. Who is learning the ‘why’?

          41. we all have our answers but no one has a clue what is the big “why”.
            mybe we all ask the wrong Questions?

          42. 5thDrawer Avatar

            My last bit … for a bit. 🙂
            Has to be SIMPLE. And begin with a ‘Premise’. When it’s too convoluted, no-one has any answer that fits. ONE thing at a time.

          43. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Setllers give shooting lessons to 4, 5 years old they have classes with real shotguns, the Aim is a poster of a Palestinian.

          44. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’ve been doing the same with the picture of my future mother in law.

          45. Don’t do it I mean don’t even have a mother in law I mean watch porn I mean don’t even get married. But it’s like the monkey in the cage and the monkey outside the cage, the one inside wants to get out the one out wants to get in.

          46. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Same on the ‘other side’ Hind. It’s what’s wrong with the schools.

          47. which only seems appropriat since you teach your 4-5 years old how good it is to be a myrtar
            when you grow kids to blow us up, we’ll grow our kidds to shoot you down before.

          48. cook2half Avatar

            Cherry picking

          49. cook2half Avatar

            Anyway, have you read the outline of Kerry’s plan?

            The “Kerry Plan,” writes Friedman, is expected to “call for an end to the conflict and all claims, following a phased Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank (based on the 1967 lines).

            Friedman also said that there will be “unprecedented security arrangements in the strategic Jordan Valley.”

            According to Friedman, some settlements will remain under Israeli control and Israel will “compensate” Palestinians for the land.

            The plan will set east Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital. It will also demand that Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

            The plan, Friedman continues, will not include any right of return for Palestinian refugees into Israel.

            What dyou think?

          50. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Christians will have a fit. :-))))))

          51. there are almost none left in PA 🙁
            exept from lebanon or israel which protects it’s minorities, christians are driven out of ME by muslims

          52. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hannan Ashraoui..Erakkat (?)
            Stop it. Palestinian Christians where 23% before 1948, you are quoting Israeli Propaganda talking points. In 1947-48 Moslem and Christians were bombed
            and bulldozed. In 1948 they when 75.000 were expelled rhey were Moslems
            and Christians.

            Stop seducing and courting Lebanon you hypocrites, for God’s sake.
            Liar. Sharon and CO,, i have no time, they created Hamas as a rival to
            secular Arafat.

            Israel-Saudi-US- and Zionist Christians, whant to empty the Midlle East from the Oriental Christians make it only Moslem ME…Calculate.

            Before US invaded Iraq, Christians were living there for 2000 years, millions
            fled. US- Israel -Saudi sent Christian killers to Syria, were lived for 2000.yrs.
            Israel Zionists follow Zionist Plan they guttered the Middle East.

          53. lol i don’t court lebanon, i truly believe lebanies are the most sufisticated and civilized among arabs
            i also believe lebanon will survive the arab spring cause lebanon already had it’s time of civil war and “grew up” as society, flatering you guys has nothing to do with that :))))))

            can you estimate the number of christians in PA now? after muslims had several years to push them out?
            of course you can’t .you never checked. instead you believe what you are told, since it can’t be israel’s fault, what is the point in questioning ?lol
            naive girl

          54. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I said they were 23% before 1948 now 1%, not interrested in numbers today.
            Yes Lebanese are the most sofisticated, you’re not ..Palestinian Christians were very sofisticated too, there were no cleavages in Palestine like in neighboring Lebanon, i had a grand aunt who was Palestinian Christian, their generation spoke about it, it was no soo long ago, we all learn history from each generation Pierre Gemayel went for his studies in French, to Saint Joseph college in Haifa. Many left in 1946. Lebanese women used to crosse to Palestine to work for rich Palestinian famillies. Israel now is asking for a legislation that says Palestinian Christians are not Arabs. They are realy twisted in Israel, soon as i see it from
            the Zionist here courting Lebanon, if not already, they will lobby Lebanon to say they are not Arabs.

          55. no you didn’t, your comment is up there to review :)))
            “Israel now is asking for a legislation that says Palestinian Christians are not Arabs” i know i ask too much but can you PLEASE!!!!! provid a proof to what you say?lol

          56. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I don’t keep archives, give me the time to find it :))

          57. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I replied from my box it did not work, i don’t have archives, i will try to find it..:))

          58. what do i think? i think that there should be a moment the “big shot” politicians stop talking in vague slogans and start providing answers.
            “unprecedented security arrangements in the strategic Jordan Valley.” my a$$.

            palis dont want us on the border crossings but we and the Jordenians insist on that (the king knows better then to trust palis, it seems).
            that leaves the americans or the UN to take the border crossings,..yep’ they want us to trust our security to the ones that ran from iraq or to the ones that fled Sinai …any choice you make is bad one.
            and that is security, it’s even before we got to the emotional land mines of “right to return” and jerusalem’s status..
            bhaaa, this initiative will go up in smoke, same like all the others
            and that is what i think

          59. cook2half Avatar

            Agreed. And what will happen when 9 months is over and pretty much everyone rejects the proposal, will Israel do any annexation dyou think? perhaps annex settlement blocks (5%), or Area C (57%) etc

          60. looking from a cold calculated pov…? should annex nothing!why take the heat?
            the way i see PA today (meaning after arab spring) ,they are incabable of doing anything productive.
            PA always depended on donations and israel to survival. it’s not a state ,it’s an experiment. and a failed one: old leadership sucks the money out, young leadership is non existant, unless it’s religious fanatics and they preach nothing but jihad.
            young man and weman are migrating out. families bring less and less children ( a common thing in arab society following the city migration and modernization).
            so called palistine is running on it’s last fums of gasolin so why fight them?

          61. cook2half Avatar

            Why not annex whats already yours? Why annex Golan and eastern Jerusalem but not inhabited/Jewish parts of Judea and Samaria?

            I know, our tax money in the EU is going to these terrorist scum of the earth. In any future war in the region the IDF should take the opportunity to kick the rest of the trash away, send them to Jordan. Let UNRWA have more refugees to keep for eternity.

          62. because interfiring with the natural rithem, mess things up
            global warming is a good example for it

          63. cook2half Avatar

            lol what annexation means applying Israeli law to these areas

          64. and it will happen when the palistinian expiriment out runs it’s cours.
            here is how it’s happening:
            Abbas has no intention to agree peace so he makes up i-rational demands- right to return,borders control,”jew free”palistine.meanwhile all the donation money is robed from the people and channeled to ruling partie’s pockets which already cause great tention in PA streets

            as arab nations usually do, he will divert the tention toward little devil(great reason to fail the negotiations btw)
            but this time he will not be able to contain and control the people, he will go down in mass protests and will live happily somewhere as the exiled pa president
            AQ is in pa already in large numbers and the PA will turn to a part of the islamic chaliphat,with all the goodies that come with it.
            can you imagine israel allowing that ?

          65. cook2half Avatar

            So, what for the Pale$tinian Authority to collapse before doing anything. got it. Sounds rational now that I think of it.

          66. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Zionists pollutes the press and public forrums with the arab massacre
            of 1929 — Zionist trademark: Arab wih small “a”. “Palestinians with a small “p” “Etzhell with a big “E”..oh yes and Loborigine; Hind with a small “h” –,
            knowing the ordinary persone have no idea of what was 1929 massacre,
            that it passed before a British Court with withnesess from both sides.
            the World Zionist Mouvement were always active, massacre was provoqued
            by rumors..from hoom, like Haganah? J.Stern? Massacres from both side
            have been minuted.
            What i find hainous is, they never mention in Hebron Palestinians saved
            175 Jewish lives hiding them in their homes, at great risks for themselves,
            (their descendants live in cages in Hebron). Zionists became Neo- Nazis.

          67. lol there you go again ” if you can’t win them with logic,overwhelm them with BS” lol
            Hind, Etzel,PA,AQ,Israel,Jews,Muslims..are we done with the infiority complex?
            all you wrote in this comment comes to cover for your little inacurracy: you claimed israelis and begin introduced terror to the holyland, which took me about 2 minuts to contradict. and now your damaged pride seeks a way out of this LOL
            not today dear

          68. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Idem!! You don’t read.. it’s just a pre-recorded answering machine. …….

          69. oh oh ..i sorry lol
            sometimes it’s better to cool off before answering
            i’m sorry ,had i known arabs saved 175 jews in hebron i would be totaly pro killing the other 133 ….
            after all ,you guys were kind enough to kill only 133 men wemen and children..i don’t know what was i thinking when i was against it.heck, if i could go back in time and disband the hagana i would
            p.s
            hebron happened at 1929
            begin founded etzel at 1931
            don’t you think you should apologize just once for your unchecked and unverified accusations??
            too many of those and people could get brain washed to believe you never harmed an ant and suddenly we came with tanks and F16’s for no apparant reason :))))
            how is that for an answering machine??

          70. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Thank you, you can go on forever, if you wish…

            PS., i’m not “you guys”!!

          71. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (more cute than cookie in his hijab for sure … 😉

          72. cook2half Avatar

            The PLO flag was created in 1988. What has that picture to do with historic palestine?

          73. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It has always been their colors.

          74. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The question:
            How will we prepare our grandchildren for the next generation of bloggers?
            And which ‘common history book’ can be used for that?

          75. better bloggers then soldiers 5th’
            i don’t mind “killing” him her or “be killed” by him on blogs, just keep the guns off limit
            inashalla (as we say in our iraqi home) 🙂

          76. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Good man … I’ll bring St. Nicholas to a store near you. 🙂

          77. i work with a Nicholas .. 🙁 most repulsive man i know,i wish he was a saint instead

          78. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I worked with some Iraqi Jews Here in Sydney, very polite and well mannered people on the surface, but I still wouldn’t be comfortable in placing total confidence in them, on the other hand I have a few Moslem friends that are as horrible as hell on the surface but I would have 100% faith in them if the situation ever arose where I would need to. It’s complicated but just something I can’t deny.

          79. Maborlz you are a racicst lol
            just kidding,i feel same way…i work with some arab muslims, always polit, always smiling with their mouth but never with their eyes..i never turn my back on them..just the way it is
            had one christian arab friend back then, i trusted him completly.strange

          80. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Tellin it the way I see it…… I guess birds of a feather flock together.

          81. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Marboiz … There are many ‘ingrained’ little things from the very early ages … when we notice the reactions of parents to certain things or people, before we understand the language they use. It’s the ‘first awareness’ of the human – and later ‘logic’ from education does not always get that ‘feeling’ out. It is better to know oneself, in that sense, when trying to put away fear.
            For instance … Shock and horror reactions and slaps on a bum, at finding the child running around naked, is NOT the best way to give it the idea that in some circumstances (like Mommy’s Tea Party) we rather prefer some clothes on. 😉

          82. Chako mako , from my Iraqi friends at church.

          83. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            He won’t be enjoying the afterlife.

          84. ofcourse i will..i’m a jew…and when resoraction time comes, i will be the first to rise too lol

          85. 5thDrawer Avatar

            maybe response was ‘illegal under international laws’.

      2. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Your people?

        1. since PA is pushing for a seperation and jew free state ,inevendetly this means “my people” and “your people”.
          racisem works both ways

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Ok dude your entitled to your own opinion. You can keep that mentality and see how far it gets you.
            We are not all entitled to your opinion though. I work with jews christians athiests all our $#!+ smells the same. Sorry for the lecture LOL. The facts have all been skewed hundreds of years ago from both ends so i literaly had nothing to add to the topic 🙂
            I have to try and fit in somehow hehehe

          2. had to answer btru2u’s claim.
            racicem goes both ways so if he supports a jew free palistine, i support an arab free israel
            but yeah, lesson learned (for now..)

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Aakkhh lifes too confusing as it is.

          4. 🙂

          5. There s a difference between living as peaceful legit neighbours , or stealing people homes,.
            you compare the victim with the aggressor..
            You wonder why people don’t like you.
            Have u any sense?

          6. so ..in 1948 you shouldnt try and steal our homes 🙂
            besides, we’re not agressors and victims here. it will take you a million years and more to convince me firing rockets at sderot,beer-sheva,ashdod,ashkelon,gedera,rishon and doesns other civilian citis is an act of defence,same goes for suicide bombers
            as for liking us..
            better be hated and alive then reviered and dead

          7. Don’t take him the wrong reasonable, he’s been conditioned to think that way. Most of them are bro.

          8. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            It took me a while but i understood you now :-).
            Its sort of like when i see somebody playing with the footy even though i didn’t want the footy all of a sudden i want it lol.

            Had jasmins1 today from leichardt had to tell you loool.

          9. Brother, even though we have different political views it don’t mean we need to enemies. I have followed your comments and you are a REASONABLEMAN. I really believe you and I including most on this blog want the same thing. Which is to live I peace with each other irrespective of what religion we follow. We are all brothers and sisters in humanity. And we can never run away from that. If I have offended you or anybody in the past I apologize. That is not my intention. I just get worked up in the moment and sometimes I put my foot in it. -:)))))
            As for you having jasmins today, all I can is thanks for rubbing it in. Lol. I hope you enjoyed it bro.

          10. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            That is big of you bro, b7etak 3a rossi. All is forgiven & forgotten and i ask for the same forgivness inshaa allah.
            I took out all my anger on the garlic thats why im a happy little vaginamite.. i mean vegimite :-).

          11. Got to love the Garlic. It just the aftermath I have an issue with

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (ohhhh .. vegimite sandwich … mmmm … I still dream. 😉

          13. sure i am farq2, i was a lefty ones. it took 25 years of arab violance to consition me to where and what i am now

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Australia is nicer. And less crowded. Stay there.

      1. You got that right 5th, Australia is by far the nicest and best country in the world. Although there is many different types of people with different religious and political views, we all seem to automatically get along. As long as no one steps on anyone’s feet of course.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well Farq2 …. my shoes have steel toes … I could let it go … but I sure wouldn’t want to be a guy in sandals … :-))))))

    3. cook2half Avatar

      Take your Jordanian passport and your UNRWA handouts and go back to Amman, parasite. Judea and Samaria is as Jewish as England is English.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        I think cookatoo just made a valid comment for once. But what do I know.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Hohohohohoho … probably. 😉

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Ow.. you hamer to hard to convince you look ridiculous ..convince us; Jews invented
        God shoose them, to become neo-Nazi because God is a kind Zionist God, who invented the invented Palestinians people who are invented creatures from another God, from God’s inventory of invented Gods and, and, and, he invented the land that invented that Palestinanst invented Zionizme iiis the i’rreal God, who’s from a series of Gods for each Sect, more than One God..that makes it un’holy idolatry,,,and and..the golden cow in Budha pestos.. call an ambulance .. please ! Stop the train and tet me out!!!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Yes, Hind … Kind of ‘hard’ on the God Theories, these messes humans get into.
          (So I continue here ….)
          After 3000 years, and a change in human knowledge; and knowing that human existence required ‘gathering together’ which aided ‘us’ weakest animals in that survival; but acknowledging that Human Societies have many different people who think and ‘feel’ with the ‘input of the moment’; WHY would governing those societies be expected to be based on anything other than ‘Human Civil Law’, allowing us to cover all the circumstances faced by people – while the religious ‘feelings’ are allowed to exist without any ‘Human Law’ interfering.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            They won’t let us, they will bombs our heads excommuniate the traitors, ruin lives, carreers. It’s called ” l’enfer c’est les autres”..la Condition Humaine.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And thus, is not about religion, but about ‘power’.

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I answered in historic details, it was a Magnum Opus they froze it, i had to
            close the donkey machine and restart..it was gone.PS., i hope barbaria was
            not banned for things she forgot she wrote, or became Guest

        2. cook2half Avatar

          – 1920 San Remo agreement legally calls for a National State for the Jewish People in historic palestine, and is approved on July 24, 1922 by the Council of the League of Nations.

          – On April 18, 1946, the League of Nations was dissolved and its assets and duties transferred to the United Nations.

          – 77% of the British Mandate for Palestine in a legally binding way ends up going to transjordan, leaving 23% to the Jews

          – The only thing that came after was the 1947 UN partition plan, but since it was rejected by the Arabs it is null and void as a legal document.

          – Therefore Article 80 of the UN means the Jews can continue settling on that 23% of the land.

    4. i just don’t see that happening… you’re coming for us for so long now but the outcome is always the same”’
      somehow you always retreat faster then you charge

    5. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Btru2u …. if you have ‘discovered’ your enemy, and ‘outed’ his megalomania to the world with a good education about it (read your zionist tracts), and then made certain he can’t escape his little kingdom, then why use up lifetimes and friends trying to kill him – along with the many who have absolutely nothing to do with ‘the enemy’.?
      (e.g. Korea … or perhaps Israel 😉 Knowledge IS bliss. Walk toward the light.
      You can say to yourself, ‘Do I want to be THAT way?’
      You DO have better choices. AND No-one can ‘force’ a thought, which will find a conclusion if it’s allowed to live to explore it.
      And yes, unfortunate that a relative ‘few’ of the world’s humans were forced to move … but many of those have found a MUCH better life – free of the megalomaniac.
      Educate them to know the history … and how to recognize the enemy … and allow their minds the freedom to roam. To discover. To see the world which a God may have created for all.
      Blowing up or starving children all the time to kill a ‘thought’ is … how shall I put it nicely …
      @$%#^!! STUPID.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        (wow … no reaction at all … stunned them all … or they all agree.) 😉

  4. cook2half Avatar

    maybe a palestinian state isnt such a good idea

    1. U r soooo boring

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        But he’s cute in that hijab. 😉

        1. cook2half Avatar

          Its a nun outfit!!

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which ‘order’?

          2. cook2half Avatar

            Christian zionist

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Never heard of it …

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Too bad. I don’t use Google. But did you steal that from one of them?

          5. cook2half Avatar

            .. ?

            lol

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I don’t believe that, Christian Zionists are US Christian Evangelists,
            they are 80.000 in US. Harper is one.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Just because Christianity began with a ‘humanist’ Jew doesn’t mean that 2000 years later all the Christians are Zionists when they think it would be better to make ‘peace’ for everyone. And what’s 80,000 out of US+Canuk totals 390 Million – not all of whom voted for Harper either?
            .0002%
            Never heard the ‘concept’ float through my church … hahahaha … this is the only place those words came up.
            Weird, ma’m, weird.

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            i just mentioned because you said:Never heard of this..

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok … forget all the ‘silly comments’ and examples of ‘things I have heard’.
            (And outside the Muslims VS Buddhists fights going on now in Burma)
            Let’s have some simple questions. For the crowd.
            The aggravations here and in the ‘Middle East’ are based on ‘One God’. All the same God. Correct me if I’m wrong. Same God.
            And ALL ‘believe’ that God made laws they should live under. Seems He wrote something in stone and gave those laws to a guy named Moses … and everyone agrees with this concept too, right?? Correct me if I’m wrong. One God, One Set of laws.

            Are these ‘3 Majors’ fighting over the God, the ‘law’, or it’s interpretation?

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Telepathie ..read further down.. i don’t buy the one God anymore, because
            of the Zionistrras..the salastis, the takfirian, hedijadisit, moleems broths.

          11. 5th. misinformation, propaganda very powerful and effective tools because they work to keep focus away from solutions that are based on TRUTH!!
            Do you recall that Jesus referring to the days of Noah? everyone was too busy to take notice, busy with every day life until the door closed, there was no helicopters, no submarines, only the ark and that was it.
            I agree with you that everyone is trying to serve God Allah or Yahweh which all refer and intend to reach the same creator but all subscribe to totally different views and values of very important issues that are by no means negligible due to the gross injustice and misrepresentation of the type of god all 3 claim to worship.

            Most current examples only serve to manufacture more confusion and division to feed the madness. All relevant and helpful knowledge is buried in the past events as they truly point out to where god stood on similar issues we face today and what wisdom can be learned, only if we took note.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            So I continued below, Geo …. And if no-one really listens, we might as well pop in here on occasion to fire off some ‘happy thoughts’ or put out a premise that has nothing to do with reality. 🙂
            Put aside the truly difficult to understand – the God things.
            Try to ‘run’ a country with some logic and reality.
            And if that can’t happen, it won’t exist. And death follows one way or the other.
            And as you and I and Prophet (and now perhaps Hind and Barabie) can too-often feel, it’s just not worth trying any more. Butting heads against a wall … silly us.
            I think, why not be silly? I turned off the fans 😉

          13. Baby face Harper? I think a friend told me about him 🙂

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Everyone gets a vote. 😉
            Don’t get me into the ‘Canadian’ system … you’ll never understand it. :-)))))))

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I promissed i will stick with your truce, for you, anyway i said case closed to her
            or him..she sent diqust message “you need to be laid and strung,,” could you
            tell me what it means? I invite you to visite ‘Kuwait pledges to help’- a dialogue
            with Lebore, after having writen an Oscar winning angelic letter to Prophetttt 🙂

          16. Hi Hind, No benefit in micro managing all the details but I will acknowledge that there was not so nice things said from both sides. My assessment is that you were still upset and not receptive to an agreement at the exact time that she was and sadly more damage was done, Hind this is a public venue so I can only say that enough has happened in my life time that most people would close their eyes and swing a sword in all directions indiscrimanetly so they don’t have to endure another betrayal or let down, I am not perfect and I don’t have a perfect life but I feel blessed that I am able to keep distracted from being weighed down from all the things that upset me. If I did not see value in both of you and Barabie as good people I care about it would not pain me as much to see you inflict injurious word to one another. although the timing failed, Both of you leaned kindly towards considering a truce as a kind gesture to me, I cant express how much It means to me as neither of you owe me anything, I think both of you can sense where I come from. I am not ashamed of my intentions.

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Dear geo, i’m very tiard this a long letter i have no choice but to respond in this public venue, and start by the begining. Why do say i was still upset and not receptive to an agreement? I stoped responding, then i recieved this
            ” Come kiss me.Mwah lets all get naked and mlborlz can do it 3 ways (…)..
            yes lesbians and pedofiles, but we live only once”. on a public forrum, i never seen that i don’t accept it. period. I don’t know geo..why you linking me so hard with her? I did the truce for your kindness, but she was on another blog trashing me with leborigin. The first impression is important, from first time she arrived she bad manners toward me. telling others; “how do you know she’s Christian she could be lying she’s defending Syrians”..i ignored her, when
            she adressed me first time, it was “because we share same opinions on Palestinians”. I was horrified definively i said; do not adress me again. She became agressive and attacked on each post; “Liar prove it”..thats whe you arrived :), i said yes ok, but i’m not sure..you called me a liar” (for me it’s a personal attack). When i posted the HRW report with the date on the Lattakiah attack, she bursted in mean, mean, anger..insulting telling me she read the contrary, could not accept HRW report on massacres against Allawites, she hates Shias, Allawites is a branch of Shia, i said, that’s not the report, its not the date i wrote. I hated this, she started the scorned women thing (lols haha) i responde in kind hoping it would stop, but she became obsessed and was stalking me like a shadow. Last time, i stopped responding she did not. I saw a post were she’s hysterical; “you said i invited you to an orgy you stupid lying pig” that was when she told you “i literaly responded to her, if you had sent your post 2 minutes earlier, but now its too late” well if i ever called her pig i like you to tell me. Of course i copied the invitation for
            her to see i was not “a lying pig” nobody ever told me this. Maybe she was drunk, why she didn’t remember?

          18. Good morning and thanks for the reply Hind,
            Since I read most of the comments you refer to I don’t dispute what you are saying . The 2 things that trouble me in reference in what we are discussing is 1 at one time she made an effort by stating “I don’t dislike you we agree on most issues we just shouldn’t discuss the things we don’t agree on” made me certain of her desire at that time to keep pleasant with you, the second part that bothers me is that after she showed desire for a truce you stated in one comment to me “the truce is between you and Barabie” an indication at that time that you had no desire, again I understand that both of you had your boiling points as you should with what was said. I am not trying to take your side or hers, my intention is to make a positive difference in reducing the tension and especially for you.
            One of the problems in Yalibnans living room is that everyone is profiling the commentators to first and foremost detect if you are sunni…shia..march 8….march 14….Lebanese forces…aounist. sadly very few put enough value on the person for who they are minus where they are born and to whom they are born to!!! Hind, She is sunni, Dad is shia, 5th is atheist, mazen is druzi, you are Christian, why cant we love one another for reasons other than just that? if I put a label on my beliefs would I still be received as warmly?
            I will be in a secure area for most of the day where it wouldn’t be up to protocol to communicate so If you don’t get any responses I am not ignoring you or anyone else. Have a super day and thanks for not being offended with my meddling 🙂

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (I fly well in camouflage, it seems …. hehehehe)

          20. Greetings 5th, I had big goals to accomplish with work today and in my rush to respond to Hindy and the interest of making a point to her I have mentioned you in a way that bothered me all day and for this I owe you an apology.

          21. 5th is a big boy with plenty of years under his belt. Sure he can handle it.

          22. Damn farq, I call him an atheist and you call him old lol, more scotch in order. hope you are doing well friend.

          23. I’m doing great Geo, Thanks for asking brother. I am just amazed at how much of a gentlemen you are. I have yet to see you get pissed off with anybody. I wish I had your patience. You get a thumbs up from me on every comment you make. I think a few of us on this blog should take note on how you behave. Especially me. lol.

          24. Many thanks Farq that is the nicest thing I have every heard my brother, I used to carry heavy rocks but it became hard on my back and my arms ached every time I threw them. the eye in the sky was kind enough to replace the bag of rocks with friends with feathers 🙂

          25. No need to thank me Geo, I’m only telling it how it is. You behavior reflects the kind of person you are. Which is like a said, A gentlemen. -:))))

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well Geo, at my ADVANCED age, I should be happy anyone talks about me at all.

            Farq2 is right … I find this latest round amusing really … and you are right, we tend to attempt analysis from a few words here ….
            You Turkeys!!
            (where’s that fan switch … I had turned it off …)

            :-))))))

          27. Age is only a number, your mind is still under warranty 🙂 the love is mutual .

          28. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Why the discrimination against Zarkonians?
            I want the energy ministry!!!

          29. Sorry Mekenseh I was transported to school on a short bus 🙁 what are zirkonians ? basturma soujouk people?

          30. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            You know basturma and soujouk people have a name.
            If my name was Mekensian I would be offended…

          31. Good Morning Mekenseh, raising hind and my sense of humor is all I got left, You will recall I posted a picture of myself as a donkey a while ago to prove I make fun of myself too , either way I apologize to all the kardashians :)P

          32. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            “raising hind”
            Best joke I ever heard
            hahaha

          33. Extremely well said. -:))))))

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            At that moment i said “OK- i was honnest i said- But i don’t know, you called me
            a liar”. So appart from the Palestinians, she showed venom on anything she calls shitt, and “the liar-poofs” business..Good nigth i have to sleep 🙂 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Chopin will help.

          35. I wish you peaceful goodnight sleep with most peasant dreams 🙂

          36. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The black and white picture reminds me of Leonardo da Vinci horse, sculpture. That’s a dancing horse.. :))

          37. 5thDrawer Avatar

            From now on, Pianissimo. 😉 And Ended.

          38. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Pianissimo ..OK..

          39. COOKOO DOODLE!!!! Hind wake up its 11:00

          40. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Geeezzz Geo … not on this ‘article’ … it’s WAY too long already !!! :-))))

          41. True, I hate long threads like that but she has a private account and too hard to find her on other comments with less trafic..Back to hangar for hopefully last session on this bird.

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I love the cookoo is he in Eastern NY time?
            When you think about it not so ancient times, he was Nature alarm clockoo :)hah!

          43. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You stil didn’t say what it mean the message she sent; “you need to be laid and strung you’re frigin ..something”? I don’t understand that language.
            Good nigth 🙂

          44. man-o-war Avatar

            Thought I would help explain the meaning. Maybe Geo has a different explanation.
            Anyway, hope it helps.

            “High strung”–> Someone who is easily excitable, extremely nervous, or very sensitive temperament (easily upset and defensive)

            “You need to get laid”–> meaning you need to have sex and release the pent up anger

          45. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Thank you, disgusting coming from a woman. Phantom of the Opera puts downies
            on private non- political conversations 🙁

          46. Thank you Mano I owe you one:) , I had her in handcuffs and tied up for nothing :)P Sorry hind you must be sick of my serious side by now 🙂

          47. I avoided the question lol. Not A nice thing to say, still want me to explain? have to finish aircraft by 7 so heading to airport where I cant talk about “laid and strung” only wings and such things. 🙂

          48. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yah Geo … how to describe some ‘etchings’ here to Hind could be ‘tricky’.

          49. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            🙂 i’m sorry didn’t know what it was..you’re funny..i don’t understand many words. Have happy wings, dont do like Icare..

          50. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I shall attempt to shy from your light. 😉

          51. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Last love dies on a full suny day without a clowd in the sky.

          52. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Fate, in a Spirit ground to dust
            By Omnipotence, that believes it must.
            Yet Alas; Feeling lies in human breast
            Clouded there, returns at mind’s behest.
            Ne’er dies a love, though dashed to sunlit ground.
            (5th)

          53. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That’s beautifull…i’m impressed you have a gift..open the drawers 🙂

          54. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hohohoho – careful with that line Dear – ‘drawers’ have another one of those strange English connotations … and I certainly haven’t bared all my ‘sides’ in this blog-site. 😉

          55. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Poetic! Is it old English or classical ..who wrote it ?

          56. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Signed by the author. A little ‘Olde English’ style perhaps … not too old.
            I liked your line … also. So I wrote …

          57. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Geo must have sent you this photo. That is exactly how he looks like.lol

          58. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I see what you mean..i believe it’s a gift .

          59. Hello sister hind, hope you had a good day on the 4 hours of sleep you got lol, both you and the prophetttt are too kind but truth is that I did send him a picture today of how many sweaters I had on and upon receiving the picture he replied that I look like a hezzie with my beard and a salafi if I shaved the mustache 🙁

          60. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Visual descriptions can’t be applied here 😉

        2. cook2half Avatar

          Am about to purchase SodaStream 🙂 Cant wait to use it!

    2. Maybe a slap in the head for you is a good idea. Might help you wake up from that dream your in. -:). Sorry Cookie, couldn’t help myself.

      1. cook2half Avatar

        Charming *nods in approval* 😛

  5. After reading a lot of the material that was written in the last 24 hours , it is nice to see some soft hearts amongst us, and it is also quite visible the hard of hearts around us..

    unfortunately the truth strikes a painful nerve when it is is brought out in an open discussion.

    Below you will find some excerpt from the quran on Jews. . And below that I have a piece on the protocols which are being discovered to be the Zionist real agenda , and not the forgery that they claim.

    There is mountain of evidence from the Bible , THE QURAN AND the protocols of zion to show that the truth it is staring us in the eye.

    Strongest among men in enmity to the believers [Muslims] wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, ‘We are Christians’: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. (The Noble Quran, 5:82)”

    “The Jews say: ‘God’s hand is tied up.’ Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from God increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, God doth extinguish it; but they strive to do mischief on earth. And God loveth not those who do mischief. (The Noble Quran, 5:64)”

    “But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few – ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for God loveth those who are kind. (The Noble Quran

    The Bible gives ample evidence of their blasphemy to GOD Almighty. You can read in full details the following Biblical books:

    Exodus 32 – They built their golden calf god using their jewelry.

    Exodus 34 – The Jews are hard-headed people who don’t listen.

    Deuteronomy 31 – Moses is concerned about the Jews’ future after his death because they are constantly rebellious against the Holy Words and Law of GOD Almighty.

    http://www.answering-christianity.Com/craig_winn_jews_rebuttal.htm

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Happy to see a small ‘+’ for ‘some’ Christians there, Btru2u. 🙂

      1. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        I see no small ‘x’ for ‘some’ Christians there..

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Which is proper. The X was for Xmas adverts.
          Although, it’s the style, I believe, of a St. Andrews Cross.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No straight answers, meanwhile i get death treaths from a nagystic Israeli agent
            (not a brigth bulb). Good nigth.

  6. THE WORLD NOW KNOW THE TRUE NATURE OF ZIONIST/JEWS

    FROM THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION

    JEWISH SUPER-STATE ( The course we are currently on)

    3. For us there are not checks to limit the range of our activity. Our Super-Government subsists in extra-legal conditions which are described in the accepted terminology by the energetic and forcible word – Dictatorship. I am in a position to tell you with a clear conscience that at the proper time we, the law-givers, shall execute judgment and sentence, we shall slay and we shall spare, we, as head of all our troops, are mounted on the steed of the leader. We rule by force of will, because in our hands are the fragments of a once powerful party, now vanquished by us. AND THE WEAPONS IN OUR HANDS ARE LIMITLESS AMBITIONS, BURNING GREEDINESS, MERCILESS VENGEANCE, HATREDS AND MALICE.

    4. IT IS FROM US THAT THE ALL-ENGULFING TERROR PROCEEDS. WE HAVE IN OUR SERVICE PERSONS OF ALL OPINIONS, OF ALL DOCTRINES, RESTORATING MONARCHISTS, DEMAGOGUES, SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS, AND UTOPIAN DREAMERS OF EVERY KIND. We have harnessed them all to the task: EACH ONE OF THEM ON HIS OWN ACCOUNT IS BORING AWAY AT THE LAST REMNANTS OF AUTHORITY, IS STRIVING TO OVERTHROW ALL ESTABLISHED FORM OF ORDER. By these acts all States are in torture; they exhort to tranquility, are ready to sacrifice everything for peace: BUT WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM PEACE UNTIL THEY OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR INTERNATIONAL SUPER-GOVERNMENT, AND WITH SUBMISSIVENESS.

    5. The people have raised a howl about the necessity of settling the question of Socialism by way of an international agreement. DIVISION INTO FRACTIONAL PARTIES HAS GIVEN THEM INTO OUR HANDS, FOR, IN ORDER TO CARRY ON A CONTESTED STRUGGLE ONE MUST HAVE MONEY, AND THE MONEY IS ALL IN OUR HANDS.

    6. We might have reason to apprehend a union between the “clear-sighted” force of the GOY kings on their thrones and the “blind” force of the GOY mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a mutual terror between them. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

    7. In order that the hand of the blind mob may not free itself from our guiding hand, we must every now and then enter into close communion with it, if not actually in person, at any rate through some of the most trusty of our brethren. When we are acknowledged as the only authority we shall discuss with the people personally on the market, places, and we shall instruct them on questings of the political in such wise as may turn them in the direction that suits us.

    8. Who is going to verify what is taught in the village schools? But what an envoy of the government or a king on his throne himself may say cannot but become immediately known to the whole State, for it will be spread abroad by the voice of the people.

    9. In order to annihilate the institutions of the GOYIM before it is time we have touched them with craft and delicacy, and have taken hold of the ends of the springs which move their mechanism. These springs lay in a strict but just sense of order; we have replaced them by the chaotic license of liberalism. We have got our hands into the administration of the law, into the conduct of elections, into the press, into liberty of the person, BUT PRINCIPALLY INTO EDUCATION AND TRAINING AS BEING THE CORNERSTONES OF A FREE EXISTENCE.

    CHRISTIAN YOUTH DESTROYED

    10. WE HAVE FOOLED, BEMUSED AND CORRUPTED THE YOUTH OF THE “GOYIM” BY REARING THEM IN PRINCIPLES AND THEORIES WHICH ARE KNOWN TO US TO BE FALSE ALTHOUGH IT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INCULCATED.

    11. Above the existing laws without substantially altering them, and by merely twisting them into contradictions of interpretations, we have erected something grandiose in the way of results. These results found expression in the fact that the INTERPRETATIONS MASKED THE LAW: afterwards they entirely hid them from the eyes of the governments owing to the impossibility of making anything out of the tangled web of legislation.

    12. This is the origin of the theory of course of arbitration.

    13. You may say that the GOYIM will rise upon us, arms in hand, if they guess what is going on before the time comes; but in the West we have against this a manoeuvre of such appalling terror that the very stoutest hearts quail – the undergrounds, metropolitans, those subterranean corridors which, before the time comes, will be driven under all the capitals and from whence those capitals will be blown into the air with all their organizations and archives.

    .biblebelievers.Org.au/przion3.htm#Protocol No. 4

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      Scary, it’ The World Zionists Movement project, ordinary Jews were sacrified for that project.

      1. Do The Jews in Israel realize that the Rothschilds and Henry Ford funded Hitler? and are the creators of their country and one was on their 500 Shekel? sad days. If they do know these facts, why have they not done anything to punish or go after the Rothschilds?
        Quoting: The Transfer Agreement 912278

        Most of them don’t know, the average “jew” is just as asleep as the average US or EU citizen. All Jews still believe they are the actual descendants of the twelve tribes… but they don’t know that they descend from converts to judaism in the 17th century, the khazarian empire etc. Arthur Koestler did know and wrote the 13th tribe but was killed.

        I suspect they are quit happy with the state of affairs…Who would want to let go of that “power” that the world (in general) believes they are the chosen seed and thereby can do anything they wish and want!

        IsraelFl: 912278. Do you not know that the Lord ofton uses evil men and women to do His will. They will enjoy their day in the sun, but like all who die in their sins they will have to face Judgement Day.

        It was prophesied that latter day Israel would be founded in unbelief. But now them dry bones are coming to life.

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          I know..

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          They are still real Jews like him, not Zionists, Zionists have the Powet and the money. Arthur Koestler a great writer hh lived trough that period the 40’s and
          met them all Ben Gurion to Begin.

    2. you do know it’s a fake dont you

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Show us …. (although Huffington is agenda-driven too_)
        http://en.wikipedia.Org/wiki/Stéphane_Hessel
        R.I.P.

        1. i was refering to the “elders of zion” comment above. quoting from it and useing it as proof to something is stupid
          as for the 17th converts story..my familiy tree first writen chapters are from earlier so for my self i can say its wrong.
          on a larger pov, having a nation converting to judaizem doesnt make all jews decended from that tribe/kingdom, right? or is it close enough to some to champion it as truth ?;-)
          second as for Hessel, the man entitled to have his opinion, i disagree.
          the land was not concured from Palistine but from Jordan. till Jordan gave up it’s responsibility for it in 1980’s, the so called Palistinians were in no way in a possition to even chalage sovernity on the land
          nazis executed civilians as collective punishment while the overwhelming majority of Palistinians dead by israelis die fighting it. it’s different here too.
          nazis ruled and did what ever they wanted.IDF has cameras sticking in it’s face 24/7.if there was a strategy like nazies we wouldn’t be able to hide it could we?can’t compare here either

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok .. wrong reference to your comment – get’s tricky sometimes figuring who replies are going to. But the Hessel story was interesting.
            And I assume many who managed to not die in ‘That Holocaust’ had differing opinions all through the rest of their lives. Being part of a war, even as a soldier, bends a mind with what it witnesses. Nothing about the experiences can be said to be ‘normal’ … although, for far too many people in the world, that still is the normal experience.
            The CONCEPT of ‘World Economy’ has not addressed ‘World Harmony’ – and it would have been better to have had that first. In fact, more people rail against their ‘economic’ problems than ever – and they tie that into their religions somehow as well – when they can’t seem to rise above the dirt.
            Like YOUR family, there ARE others from ‘The Palestine Area’ who have been rooted there in history. Someone had to have planted the ancient olive trees that ‘radicals’ burn to remove the economy of what is now called ‘enemy’, just as stones were chipped to square to build the monuments to The One God, the stones they now fight over for the ‘tourist trades’ by claiming their stones are more sacred than the ‘other guys’. And they ALL do it.
            THE SHAME of ALL is that they are not willing to see that they could be together.
            And yes, we know Israel has cameras, and reporters are allowed to photograph, and everyone has digital cams now anyway … all atrocities can be viewed ad infinitum like a video game on the Facebook and other sites for entertainment … and the minds are warped and bent into a ‘revenge mode’ instead of ‘ADMITTANCE’ of ALL the STUPIDITIES OF MAN.
            And that’s because there is no real education about how to view ‘history’.
            None will go ‘forward’ with the wrong ‘concepts’.

          2. but what are the right “concepts”? i’m looking for a cause to unit humanity and i can find none.
            the only way humanity will ever get together is if an allian invesioin from space to target all humans (“independence day” scenario) other then that, we’ll always break into groups and sub groups and sub sub groups.
            world peace, fighting hunger,illness are important to all but watching from the other guy seems more imidiat and relevant it seems.
            it’s stupid i agree but unless that spaceship comes, it will continue like that

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That “independence day” scenario is one of the ‘concepts’ we could keep in mind. 😉 Independence of ‘person’ was to me of importance. It’s the simple FIRST … and it stayed all my life. To be that way I had to worm around many obstacles, and still do to some extent. Managed to survive with it. But my mind has always been, I like to think, ‘free’.
            That, of course, is why some find me weird – or even, tsk, ungodly. 😉
            So what I write comes from the experience of searching for what I wanted.
            It was perhaps better to find a ‘place’ where I could also experience that. And fortunately I also knew when to keep a ‘low profile’ … no ‘place’ is perfect. There IS no Eden. But there CAN be ‘acceptance’. And a desire to make it better. You need to keep that ‘Peace’ thought always in the back of the mind … methods of ‘defence’ are adjustable, after all … aim for the peace. 😉
            Oh .. yes … enjoy a good scotch on occasion too. :-))

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The “so called PlisinePalestinian boy human shield..he shoots.. retreat.. the boy is dead…
            Immoral Zionists whining as the poor victims.
            Wonder why IDF keep kidnapping children

          5. could be they were attacked while interogating 🙂

            a pic is worth a thousand words but a video is worth athousand pics

            go to youtube and cut&past:

            Hamas using children as human shield

            Hamas Exploitation of Civilians as Human Shields
            Cast Lead Video: Hamas Terrorist uses Children as Human Shield
            you’ll find your way from there
            and this is not israel,this is arabs using other arabs

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