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Official: Hezbollah inciting strife in Bahrain

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Samira Rajab, bahrain minister

Bahrain’s Minister of State for Information Affairs Samira Rajab accused the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah of encouraging terrorism and inciting strife in her country.

“Hezbollah is fanning the flame of conflict in Bahrain and training terrorists,” Rajab was quoted as saying by Kuwaiti daily Al-Rai on Tuesday during a press conference at an Arab media forum in Bahrain.

The minister also said that her country was “coordinating with Gulf states and other world countries” to designate Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

The tiny Gulf kingdom of Bahrain became the first Arab country to place the Shiite Lebanese militant movement, Hezbollah, on its list of terrorist organizations. It is a rather bold step on their part and the implications are enormous while the ultimate consequences are yet unknown. In punishing Hezbollah, Bahrain is at the same time pointing an accusing finger directly at Iran.

For the past 2 years the authorities in Manama, the Bahraini capital have been blaming Iran and Hezbollah for fomenting the troubles. Bahrain claimed that Hezbollah was training Bahraini Shiites in revolutionary tactics in secret camps in Lebanon.

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120 responses to “Official: Hezbollah inciting strife in Bahrain”

  1. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    In April 2012, the King appointed Sameera Rajab, an outspoken supporter of Saddam
    Hussain, as the country’s Minister of State for Information. I DIDNT MAKE THAT UP ITS ON GOOGLE…So of course shes going to play this game…so in syria their entitled to freedom and democracy but in bahrain their not…what a circus

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Again, dateam, I think one must note that good changes cannot happen fast. It takes time for a whole system of thought to ‘get on board’ with what may be radical differences with ‘the norm’. Turning a country into a blood-bath is not a logical way to advance.

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        ok who is creating the bloodbaths? wouldnt a situation in syria like bahrain of been better that what it is now? Or should someone arm the people of bahrain with weapons and let them fight for their democracy? My wife went to bahrain when she was 18….there is a particular beach there that only foreign women are allowed into after inspection of course….the king sits there watching these women and offering them gifts..of course in exchange for certain things???? you cannot pick and choose what you want to be right or wrong…right is right and wrong is wrong…..in terms of the allegations above bahrain is a tiny island surrounded by the american 5th fleet….getting weapons in would be virtually impossible…shiites to even get would be virtually impossible….i dont think there would be many shiites allowed to leave either and if they did they would be closely monitored….do you think they deserve to stage the grand prix?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Don’t get into the ‘sports world’ … please. 🙂 Mostly, I ignore it.
          And I’m sure – even if I’d like it – the king wouldn’t let me onto his beach in my usual attire. 😉 But there ARE other beaches. I have a choice too. I really don’t think attaining some good things needs to be a fight all the time … but it IS good that a king hears complaints on occasion – and that the word ‘desire’ is known.
          Really, I don’t see Bahrain is ‘out of place’ with a pack of it’s idiot neighbours there anyway. And, If the USA rents dock-space … well … are some jealous? Or just upset they can’t attack them easily there? 😉

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            LOL

        2. IraniAngel Avatar
          IraniAngel

          5thDrawer is the right term for what Bahrain is surrounded by

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (my god … I’m in danger of becoming a ‘dichotomy’ ? )

  2. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    In April 2012, the King appointed Sameera Rajab, an outspoken supporter of Saddam
    Hussain, as the country’s Minister of State for Information. I DIDNT MAKE THAT UP ITS ON GOOGLE…So of course shes going to play this game…so in syria their entitled to freedom and democracy but in bahrain their not…what a circus

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Again, dateam, I think one must note that good changes cannot happen fast. It takes time for a whole system of thought to ‘get on board’ with what may be radical differences with ‘the norm’. Turning a country into a blood-bath is not a logical way to advance.

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        ok who is creating the bloodbaths? wouldnt a situation in syria like bahrain of been better that what it is now? Or should someone arm the people of bahrain with weapons and let them fight for their democracy? My wife went to bahrain when she was 18….there is a particular beach there that only foreign women are allowed into after inspection of course….the king sits there watching these women and offering them gifts..of course in exchange for certain things???? you cannot pick and choose what you want to be right or wrong…right is right and wrong is wrong…..in terms of the allegations above bahrain is a tiny island surrounded by the american 5th fleet….getting weapons in would be virtually impossible…shiites to even get would be virtually impossible….i dont think there would be many shiites allowed to leave either and if they did they would be closely monitored….do you think they deserve to stage the grand prix?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Don’t get into the ‘sports world’ … please. 🙂 Mostly, I ignore it.
          And I’m sure – even if I’d like it – the king wouldn’t let me onto his beach in my usual attire. 😉 But there ARE other beaches. I have a choice too. I really don’t think attaining some good things needs to be a fight all the time … but it IS good that a king hears complaints on occasion – and that the word ‘desire’ is known.
          Really, I don’t see Bahrain is ‘out of place’ with a pack of it’s idiot neighbours there anyway. And, If the USA rents dock-space … well … are some jealous? Or just upset they can’t attack them easily there? 😉

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            LOL

        2. IraniAngel Avatar
          IraniAngel

          5thDrawer is the right term for what Bahrain is surrounded by

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (my god … I’m in danger of becoming a ‘dichotomy’ ? )

  3. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    HA is like a spider building an inernational web controlling things from drugs to arms to the economy and communications in Lebanon, basically a government within the government. The same main virus that Lebanon has been suffering from since the early 70s with the PLO, then with the Syrians, and now with the local HA who is enticing others to act likewise too (like Ahmad el Asssir and the like). One thing I do not understand: Why HA would insist on going ALL the WAY to the verge of disaster, instead of becoming a mere politcal party without arms and let the the lebanese government being the only power breaker on the ground ? I guess personal greed, pride and arrogance of Nasrallah and the people around him is the answer….Poor Lebanon, poor the christians and the druzes who have to put up with Nasrallah, el-Assir, and all the like, poor the majestic mountains and Cedars who are surrounded by these thugs, poor the educated and professionals who have to endure this crap, poor Beirut that is under the control of HA, poor the honest and the innocents who have to bear the thieves and the armed thugs who are controlling parts of Lebanon (the south, the dahieh, some parts of Tripoli, some parts of Saida, Hermel, Baalbeck, etc…. basically where there are a majority muslim population where each cheikh issues a fatwa at his own mood and liking). I am just disgusted with the news and where these islamist shiaa and sunni are taking the country to the verge of the Abyss, because they believe in violence and arms and power by force (as their prophet taught them). These people do not deserve democracy, they need a government with an iron fist to control them like in Turkey, in Saudi Arabia and Iran (these governments know how to deal with their own people within the standards of Islam itself).

    1. juboraaz Avatar
      juboraaz

      I thought I would remind you of what you already know, you are one pathetic and shallow minded person. You keep repeating the same theory trying to convince yourself and a few of your like. You sound worse than a broken record and more annoying than ex-wife.

      1. Constantin7 Avatar
        Constantin7

        No problem: don’t read my postings and you won’t annoyed.

      2. AntiFSA Avatar
        AntiFSA

        Don’t mind Constantine. Due to his pathetic existence and miserable life he must lead, Being a racist is all he knows. In my opinion, this is the result of a person who has been abused by a Muslim. Possibly sexual. Just my opinion. What he seems to forget, and what he always fails to mention is all the bad the Church has done in the past. Its what I call having your head deep in the sand.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          There you go with that ‘past performance’ stuff again. It’s in the history books. Who’s denying the history? It’s the ‘now’ that leads to a future. See what’s happening now … and record it .. then move on.

          1. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ok 5th, taken on board, its in the history books. Now that would mean that most Lebanese especially the Christians can now put behind them what Syria did when it occupied Lebanon. After all that to is in the history books isn’t it. please don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending what they did, however don’t you think its time most Lebanese people get over what happened and learn to forgive. Or is it ok for most to keep bringing up this past when it suits them.
            Now on another note, have you said something to upset Prophet and Hannibal. I’m really missing their insight. Especially Hannibals firery temper. lol.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, Anti, I hope it wasn’t the grasshopper recipe. 😉 But, Either they went holiday, or got as sick at all that’s going on as I am. Nothing changes for the better. And the few of us in here are not making any difference – even when we are being logical and sensible – which some are not.
            And yes, I think everyone should be trying to make a new beginning. A lot thought they had when the Syrians finally (theoretically) left, at that ‘wonderful’ moment when ‘the people’ spontaneously met to voice their displeasure with Hariri’s being blown up, with also a couple of hundred injured, along with infrastructure damage. But, then again, we found out that wasn’t true either. They sent the army home because they had control in ways the average citizen didn’t realize … at that time.
            For sure it’s ludicrous to see references back to crusade days … don’t you think? Even a Christian from today would be killed by a ‘crusading knight’ soon as he opened his mouth to say ‘Get that dirty horse out of the kitchen!’ 😉
            It’s not entirely necessary to forgive. It’s absolutely necessary to agree that constantly killing each other over the past can’t lead to a better future – for anyone. In the great ‘Confessional Parliamentary Democracy’, perhaps a few could confess, and then stop doing it. And then write a comprehensive factual secular history to use in the schools – which they also can’t allow it seems.
            (Oh goodness – writing down and noting an ‘event’ occurred somewhere must mean ‘blame’ is being used, so we should deny it, and then blame them back.)
            ALL people have done ‘BAD’. But some have done ‘GOOD’. They are left out of the history too, when it is never taught. Who, then, can tell the difference?

          3. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            5th, when you say, (even when we are being logical and sensible, which some are not). You are not referencing this to me are you. As for the grasshopper recipe, did you have to go there again. lol. It was hard enough trying to forget about it. That’s it 5th, you are now barred from drinking Scotch until such time you can come up with a new recipe that doesn’t involve the creepy crawlies I have in my back yard. lol.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I try to make no direct references .. most of the time. I’d rather instigate introspection. 😉 (Being ‘reasonable’ can, however, be illogical. ;-)))
            (try them with cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg – taste a little like pumpkin pie )
            (my Scotch supply is well-hidden … hehehe)

          5. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            Just a wild guess… you keep your scotch hidden in the 5th drawer! 😉

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            What the … errr … Are you a prophet, Zaatar?? (damn … )
            😉

          7. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            No way that I can be a prophet, not in this site anyway. Tht position has been filled here. Besides, I kinda like having just one r to my name 😉

          8. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Anti, it’s always nice to exchange with good friends, and sometimes it is fun to engage those who are not friendly at all. However, there comes a time when it feels that you have nothing new to offer, and that your contribution is either meaningless, or useless, or both; usually one feels this way when He realizes that He is repeating himself all the time;And this is exactly how I feel lately.It becomes worse when your tolerance for hatred and negativity becomes very thin.
            Trying to win an argument against stupidity and/or bigotry is almost impossible. Reading some of the stuff posted here lately makes me want to vomit, and I don’t feel like being part of this environment anymore.
            So, my friend, I’m just taking a break until I feel the need to say something I have not. Thanks for asking about me,and sure enough, you can blame 5TH for many things, but don’t blame his grasshopper recipe for the disappearance of Hannibal or me, and since we’re at it, let’s blame HA. He, on the other hand, can always blame the scotch for everything. lol
            We all can be burned out at times.

          9. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            As long as your well, And I understand your frustration, However I’m a sucker for pain. Be well my friend and don’t take to long of a break.

          10. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            What are you nuts? Blame HA? Aren’t they blamed for enough stuff already? Let’s blame the Israelis… At least they don’t live with you. 😉 I mean dahyeh is a stone throw away but Haifa is far.

          11. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The Syrians are not to blame… The Assad undemocratically elected dynasty WAS, IS, and WILL be the problem until removed. My family, being Maronites, opposed the Maronite hegemony in Lebanon and paid dearly for it by the “deuxieme bureau” of Shehab and the rest of the shehabists for years. They were jailed because they stood side by side with their Lebanese brothers against the government which was dominated by their sectarian leaders or usurper if you like. The same goes for Syria. I am not vouching for the Islamists because they are the enemies of life itself. However Assad MUST GO. Hannibal lives 🙂

          12. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Mr wannabe philosipher your own statement contradicts itself you live in the today and your looking at what was what is and what will be. As soon as they create machines which im sure they will soon to usurp a persons memory every morning you can never will never ever ever say your living in the nowaday or the present or in the now. I cant believe you and your people have been going on about this ‘now’ topic for so long when the most simplest answer is ‘impossible to do so whilst memory exists’, maybe now you can get lost and make way for intellectuals on this page so stop blaming everyone and thing.i know your smarter than that

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Back at it… This blog is not good for my blood pressure… Sigh!!!!!!!!!

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Here … try this last bit of Balvenie … and a little crunchy chip i have made. Cinnamon is good for all sorts of things …

          15. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            ditto… he he

          16. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I swear to drunk I am not God… 😉 Since when do we call someone attacking a religion racism? So if I am a Lebanese attacking Christianity will I be racist? Islam is a religion NOT a race. Those who cannot take the heat of being criticized about their religion (NOT insulted as I hate insulting religions) then those individual should either evolve to know how to defend it through wisdom and argument NOT by force.
            YET… Here we have individuals who refuse to look into other religions because they have been BRAINWASHED since their birth.
            I am a pan religionist as I do believe in all goodness in religions and reject evil in it. I rejected the evil introduced by man into my religion as should others reject evil in theirs. EVIL is in acts of terror like blowing innocent people in the name of religion… and I mean any religion… McVeigh Davidians, Al-Qaeda’s Jihad etc… That is EVIL. PURE EVIL… We will find you and get you out of our humanity by force if we have to and pick you one by one until YOU GUYS ARE NO MORE…

        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          As you said “in the past”
          We Christians live in the moment as in TODAY… Unlike the Shia-Sunni Strife that is a war of the past still going on in the present.
          The Church is not your enemy… Your enemy is within Islam itself… It is self-destructing because it cannot shed the past. This is not an opinion. These are facts. 😉

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Yeah blame islam for everything bala sharof lek what has your existance ever achieved?Besides the fact you take every opportunity on preventing your eyes falling onto yourself by blaming islam and other humans and life itself you remind me of a hippy bala sharof. Who are you supposed to be your just a carcus that carries fieces and urine around and you will be dead before you know it. One day all religion out the window one day uncle joes concious one day hariri assoudi one day hannibal what is your cause supposed to be? Dont expect a clap for your under achievement.

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I never carried any other name but Hannibal and Jose… All the others were actually opposed to my views. Wanna resort to personal attacks? Do not get me started because you won’t survive… That is FIRST!
            SECOND: I am not attacking Islam… I am attacking Islamists and then the strife between Sunni and Shia… YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE YOUR PROBLEMS SO BE IT… Christianity EVOLVED! Your religion is not to blame but your culture of PAST is… Therefore I tell you you live in a PAST… As Islam in its current wahabi form is really really backwardly and will NOT survive us.
            THIRD: We all die but unlike you Christ resurrected us whereas you will be in Hell and then ONLY THEN you will believe that through Him is salvation.
            Convert to Christianity you heathen heretic or taste death in hell…

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hannibal  AntiFSA • 3 hours ago−

            As you said “in the past”We Christians live in the moment as in TODAY… Unlike the Shia-Sunni Strife that is a war of the past still going on in the present.The Church is not your enemy… Your enemy is within Islam itself… It is self-destructing because it cannot shed the past. This is not an opinion. These are facts. 😉

            Read what you confess before trying to flip the script.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hannibal … better not mention that ‘one-family-church’ in Westboro (whatever that is). … it’s not a very good evolutionary example. 😉
            I have a dream … probably not ‘reasonable’ to describe .. but, for blood pressure – at least …
            There was a guy named Moho (Muha)(Moha) mmod (ad)(ed) who thought he actually had peace because he was dead. And then people started saying ‘peace be upon him’ … and each time that happened a match was lit under his ass … and by now, he has no peace at all … no matter HOW the names are spelt or said, because a HELL of a lot of people keep saying it.
            What does it mean ??
            We need a dream-guru here, I think. I wake up chuckling every time I have it.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Yeah another 2cents you have used up thats not helping society just spreading devience and mockery. What you sew you reap and what you see in others exists in yourself.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ok … one interpretation … thanks.

          7. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            You can’t be serious Hannibal, where have said the Church is my enemy. I have said to you before and ill say it to you again, no religion in its purerest form ever preachers hate, especially Islam. You are now starting to sound like Constantin, tarnishing all Muslims because of a minority that is causing havoc. Furthermore it is in actual fact Christians who can not shred the past. Just stop and really read what most on this blog who are Christian say. Islam did this and Islam did that. DID Hannibal, past tense. As for the whole Shiite and Sunni strife you mentioned, this is but a seed planted by the west in order to dominate the flow of petrol and gas like this whole Syria thing. Its what’s called divide and a conquer. Unfortunately some are stupid enough to fall into this trap including the Christians.

          8. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You said: he always fails to mention is all the bad the Church has done in the past

            REALLY? Which church? You mean the middle ages? you mean the Crusades? Christianity is not ONE. The Church is not ONE.

            and please spare me the West thingy… A house divided has only its inhabitants to blame. Not its neighbors. Try to divide the Israelis… They will always look for the survival of Judaism even though there are many school of thoughts there. What unify them is a belief in a Nation. Where is our nation? Let me tell you…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Hy1boWeWc

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Like the preachers who still molester kids yea? Your one of those hatemongers that should take his own advice ive evn showed you your own bible proving mohommed peace be upon him as a prophet but you would rather ignore and look at the differences because you think your self compitent better than there was and better than the rest. So tell me whose all these problems starting from if you insist on not admitting mohommed peace be upon him as a prophet not letting go of the past ay hannibal or jose or joe multipersonality disorder much?

          10. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Like the imam who banged his child of five and than killed her. We never see or hear of the thousands of boys who are spoiled by Muslim preachers in The ME But that will never be in the news. Just imagine Muslims putting that on tv. Yeh rite.

          11. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            09 did hanniboy call you for backup? I merely made an example with all his evolution of the churches talk they still suffer this strife. That the world isnt all rainbows and butterflies corruption still exists and nobody is perfect. If stupid bloggers like yourself would stop using islam and every other thing in this world as an excuse to justify your errors (judgment perception laziness negligance) the world would be a better place starting with this blog. How do you do this you ask? Easy look at the things we have in common for a start.optamism.not oppurtunist. Or you can use 5th and hanibals philosophy and pretend to forget what happened 5 minutes ago and be a hippy.live in the noooww in the present hahaha

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Oh be reasonable … everyone has their own opinion, don’t they? ;-))))

          13. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            Hilarious :))))

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Sure

          15. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Sorry bud I am not using Islam ,YOU THINK in your head only… I am also saying the world blames Christians for HOMOPHOBIA Child abuse, sexual abuse and put it in the NEWS like there is no other thing going on.. Out of 2 million rapes in institutions be government or religious 1000 are by brothers of the church BUT I do not see reports on and people jumping up and down about the others ONLY THE CHRISTIAN SIDE IS PLASTERED ON THE NEWS DAILY…….HOW IS THAT OK TELL ME SO….so I wonder who is using ISLAM because I am not blaming Islam read between the lines LOL…I do blame the church but I also blame every other INSTITUTION AS WELLLLLL…..I will give you an situation I see in real life, I have worked around the world with charity helping Muslims Christians and HUMANS AS ONE. In Africa I sat in front of two Muslim boys aged between 9 and 12 and to hear the story of what a Muslim Cleric did to them was worst than hell, but I never see that in the news do I. SO NO I AM NOT USING ISLAM I AM SAYING BLAME ALL NOT JUST ONE….BUT WE ARE ALL STUPID WHEN I COMES TO REAL STUFF….HAHAH GET REAL BUD AND YOU STOP THE FINGER POINTING BECAUSE I AM NOT POINTING FINGERS…HAHAHAHAH POOR FELLA…

          16. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I totally agree with you master, (which is very surprising lol) Child molestation is not only found in the Church, but in every religion institute For me, any animal that molests a child whether they are Muslim, Christian, or any religion for that matter should be put to death. No questions asked.

          17. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Im supposed to read between the lines? If all i see from your posts is islam this islam that, i can only make a judgement out of arrogance and distress so you make use of yourself and start explaining what you mean. What is every human a mind reader or maybe your the one who thinks too himself too much pssht. Dont give me this BS that its only christians that get put on the news you see muslims on the news smuggling people into other countries, doing frauds , murders, drugs, homeless, just as much as you see christians if not you see them more in those areas than you would see them in a child molestation issue. So i 75% agree lol if that makes sense.

          18. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Agree 1%or 100 I really am not here for anyone to agree. Always 2 sides of a page.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (still trying to figure out why it was bad to be ‘hip’ … hmmm … it was damn difficult when I found out I was allergic to MJ … had to be cool naturally instead)

          20. Constantin7 Avatar
            Constantin7

            Exactly Master09, the muslim societies all over the world are perfect ones !!!!!! We do not hear about all the children abused, the women beaten and killed, etc….why because this is OK and normal in Islam. Muslims have their prophet, ashraf el-kholk (as they call him), as their role model to look up to and imitate. Mohammad used God to impose his will, his way, his teachings, his norms, and his wishes on atheist ignorants in the desert and then used these ignorants to force, by the sword, all these “values” on other tribes and countries. No wonder that HA uses also the word “GOD” (Allah) in their name, to impose their will on others, they are just using the same method that their prophet used. Hiding behind God and pretend doing God’s will is a very powerful tactic, hence the success of Islam for the last 1400 years. But thanks to the information technology revolution that now everything has been revealed and all you need to know is at the tip of your fingers, and the blind belief in an alleged criminal prophet is over. There just cannot be an educated person (no need for a PhD) who uses his mind and believes in this alleged prophet. To believe in this man you have to believe blindly otherwise you cannot believe.
            So the so-called “Spring Arab” revolutions, although they seem political revolutions, I see them more as revolutions of the right against the wrong, of justice against the injustice, of the good against the evil, of knowledge against the ignorance, which at the end is completely against Islam and all it stands for, which is believing blindly in something that the mind and basic human values does not accept. So all these revolutions are the start of the digging to get to the ugly truth that has been hidden for 1,400 years. Notice in Tunisia and Egypt already a second phase of this revolution is revealing itself by the revolt against the islamists in power…….Well this is my adrenaline rush for today….
            PS: I do not and will not attack personally anybody here and will not respond to any personal attacks. Everybody by now knows my views and who does not like them please do not read my postings.

          21. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I never discussed Mohammed… Nor did I ever deny his prophecy. I deny your interpretation of scriptures. That is different.
            You will find the good the bad and the ugly everywhere including among priests who were drawn and hid in the medium to commit pedophilia. Those un-people were sick already and found fertile ground to hide and do their act. Let me ask you this: If you were celibate would you molest a kid? I am sure you find it despicably disgusting and wrong. That is why my argument is that priesthood does not create pedophiles but pedophiles go there like you go find food in the supermarket. I am glad it was brought to the limelight and it was dealt with.
            So there, while you deny my religion I never denied yours.

          22. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I do not deny the exisistance of jesus peace be upon him . But why would you bring up the sunni shia strife to begging with?? your motives are to defame the religion of islam so dont tell me otherwise (islam,islamist all derive from islam) while claiming your theory of christians living in TODAY to be omnipotent?
            Now we have come to the conclusion that there also is corruption in churches mosques homes so lets not go there.

          23. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I bring it up because it exists… No other motives. I find it stupid and destructive.

          24. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Totally irrelivant to the conversation we could of all done without. JusT proves intolerance for and was a surface based statement. Instead of saying a certain kind of people are destructive how about you sort yourself out go do some community service help an old lady cross the street or go join the police force.

          25. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            But I do… I am committed to 5 acts of kindness a day each corresponding to one of Jesus’ wounds on the cross. I said it before, your deeds are your salvation not your religious books.

          26. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I didnt mean that figuratively thats why i stated before that you are smarter than that statement. you do it for jesus she does it for buddha thats all something that comes back to the individual here or hereafter. My point is really relavent to the statement you just made wich is to busy oneself with good deads not for rewards but for the sake of doing it. Which what we muslims say enjoyning in good. Forbidding the evil. The first evil being ourself which often is portrayed by the use of our tongues. It causes strife when used to defame 🙂

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I’d go with that. 🙂

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (As a ‘boy-scout’ I only had to do one a day. Hannibal goes overboard.)
            😉

          29. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            I have to say, that I am impressed Hannibal. You and 5th have inspired me to start doing the same. I will start with one per day (kinda new at this) and see how it goes 😉

  4. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    HA is like a spider building an inernational web controlling things from drugs to arms to the economy and communications in Lebanon, basically a government within the government. The same main virus that Lebanon has been suffering from since the early 70s with the PLO, then with the Syrians, and now with the local HA who is enticing others to act likewise too (like Ahmad el Asssir and the like). One thing I do not understand: Why HA would insist on going ALL the WAY to the verge of disaster, instead of becoming a mere politcal party without arms and let the the lebanese government being the only power breaker on the ground ? I guess personal greed, pride and arrogance of Nasrallah and the people around him is the answer….Poor Lebanon, poor the christians and the druzes who have to put up with Nasrallah, el-Assir, and all the like, poor the majestic mountains and Cedars who are surrounded by these thugs, poor the educated and professionals who have to endure this crap, poor Beirut that is under the control of HA, poor the honest and the innocents who have to bear the thieves and the armed thugs who are controlling parts of Lebanon (the south, the dahieh, some parts of Tripoli, some parts of Saida, Hermel, Baalbeck, etc…. basically where there are a majority muslim population where each cheikh issues a fatwa at his own mood and liking). I am just disgusted with the news and where these islamist shiaa and sunni are taking the country to the verge of the Abyss, because they believe in violence and arms and power by force (as their prophet taught them). These people do not deserve democracy, they need a government with an iron fist to control them like in Turkey, in Saudi Arabia and Iran (these governments know how to deal with their own people within the standards of Islam itself).

    1. juboraaz Avatar
      juboraaz

      I thought I would remind you of what you already know, you are one pathetic and shallow minded person. You keep repeating the same thing trying to convince yourself and a few of your like. You sound worse than a broken record and that includes my annoying ex-wife.

      1. Constantin7 Avatar
        Constantin7

        No problem: don’t read my postings and you won’t annoyed.

      2. AntiFSA Avatar
        AntiFSA

        Don’t mind Constantine. Due to his pathetic existence and miserable life he must lead, Being a racist is all he knows. In my opinion, this is the result of a person who has been abused by a Muslim. Possibly sexual. Just my opinion. What he seems to forget, and what he always fails to mention is all the bad the Church has done in the past. Its what I call having your head deep in the sand.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          There you go with that ‘past performance’ stuff again. It’s in the history books. Who’s denying the history? It’s the ‘now’ that leads to a future. See what’s happening now … and record it .. then move on.

          1. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ok 5th, taken on board, its in the history books. Now that would mean that most Lebanese especially the Christians can now put behind them what Syria did when it occupied Lebanon. After all that to is in the history books isn’t it. please don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending what they did, however don’t you think its time most Lebanese people get over what happened and learn to forgive. Or is it ok for most to keep bringing up this past when it suits them.
            Now on another note, have you said something to upset Prophet and Hannibal. I’m really missing their insight. Especially Hannibals firery temper. lol.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, Anti, I hope it wasn’t the grasshopper recipe. 😉 But, Either they went holiday, or got as sick at all that’s going on as I am. Nothing changes for the better. And the few of us in here are not making any difference – even when we are being logical and sensible – which some are not.
            And yes, I think everyone should be trying to make a new beginning. A lot thought they had when the Syrians finally (theoretically) left, at that ‘wonderful’ moment when ‘the people’ spontaneously met to voice their displeasure with Hariri’s being blown up, with also a couple of hundred injured, along with infrastructure damage. But, then again, we found out that wasn’t true either. They sent the army home because they had control in ways the average citizen didn’t realize … at that time.
            For sure it’s ludicrous to see references back to crusade days … don’t you think? Even a Christian from today would be killed by a ‘crusading knight’ soon as he opened his mouth to say ‘Get that dirty horse out of the kitchen!’ 😉
            It’s not entirely necessary to forgive. It’s absolutely necessary to agree that constantly killing each other over the past can’t lead to a better future – for anyone. In the great ‘Confessional Parliamentary Democracy’, perhaps a few could confess, and then stop doing it. And then write a comprehensive factual secular history to use in the schools – which they also can’t allow it seems.
            (Oh goodness – writing down and noting an ‘event’ occurred somewhere must mean ‘blame’ is being used, so we should deny it, and then blame them back.)
            ALL people have done ‘BAD’. But some have done ‘GOOD’. They are left out of the history too, when it is never taught. Who, then, can tell the difference?

          3. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            5th, when you say, (even when we are being logical and sensible, which some are not). You are not referencing this to me are you. As for the grasshopper recipe, did you have to go there again. lol. It was hard enough trying to forget about it. That’s it 5th, you are now barred from drinking Scotch until such time you can come up with a new recipe that doesn’t involve the creepy crawlies I have in my back yard. lol.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I try to make no direct references .. most of the time. I’d rather instigate introspection. 😉 (Being reasonable can, however, be illogical. ;-)))
            (try them with cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg – taste a little like pumpkin pie )
            (my Scotch supply is well-hidden … hehehe)

          5. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            Just a wild guess… you keep your scotch hidden in the 5th drawer! 😉

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            What the … errr … Are you a prophet, Zaatar?? (damn … )
            😉

          7. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            No way that I can be a prophet, not in this site anyway. Tht position has been filled here. Besides, I kinda like having just one r to my name ;

          8. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Anti, it’s always nice to exchange with good friends, and sometimes it is fun to engage those who are not friendly at all. However, there comes a time when it feels that you have nothing new to offer, and that your contribution is either meaningless, or useless, or both; usually one feels this way when He realizes that He keeps repeating himself. And this is exactly how I have felt lately.
            What makes it even worse, is when your tolerance for hatred, negativity, and stupidity becomes very thin.
            One cannot always tolerate ignorance, and I’m becoming more allergic than ever to stupidity and prejudice.
            One can never win an argument with stupidity or bigotry. Reading some of the stuff posted here lately makes me want to vomit, and I don’t feel like being part of this environment anymore.
            So, my friend, I’m just taking a break until I feel the need to say something I have not. And thanks for asking about me, but you can blame 5TH for many things, and He can blame the scotch for most of it, but don’t blame his grasshopper recipe for the disappearance of Hannibal and me, and since we’re at it, let’s blame HA,LOL
            We all can be burned out at times.

          9. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            As long your well, And I understand your frustration, However I’m a sucker for pain. Be well my friend and don’t take to long of a break.

          10. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            What are you nuts? Blame HA? Aren’t they blamed for enough stuff already? Let’s blame the Israelis… At least they don’t live with you. 😉 I mean dahyeh is a stone throw away but Haifa is far.

          11. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The Syrians are not to blame… The Assad undemocratically elected dynasty WAS, IS, and WILL be the problem until removed. My family, being Maronites, opposed the Maronite hegemony in Lebanon and paid dearly for it by the “deuxieme bureau” of Shehab and the rest of the shehabists for years. They were jailed because they stood side by side with their Lebanese brothers against the government which was dominated by their sectarian leaders or usurper if you like. The same goes for Syria. I am not vouching for the Islamists because they are the enemies of life itself. However Assad MUST GO. Hannibal lives 🙂

          12. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Mr wannabe philosipher your own statement contradicts itself you live in the today and your looking at what was what is and what will be. As soon as they create machines which im sure they will soon to usurp a persons memory every morning you can never will never ever ever say your living in the nowaday or the present or in the now. I cant believe you and your people have been going on about this ‘now’ topic for so long when the most simplest answer is ‘impossible to do so whilst memory exists’, maybe now you can get lost and make way for intellectuals on this page so stop blaming everyone and thing.

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Back at it… This blog is not good for my blood pressure… Sigh!!!!!!!!!

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Here … try this last bit of Balvenie … and a little crunchy chip i have made. Cinnamon is good for all sorts of things …

          15. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            ditto… he he

          16. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I swear to drunk I am not God… 😉 Since when do we call someone attacking a religion racism? So if I am a Lebanese attacking Christianity will I be racist? Islam is a religion NOT a race. Those who cannot take the heat of being criticized about their religion (NOT insulted as I hate insulting religions) then those individual should either evolve to know how to defend it through wisdom and argument NOT by force.
            YET… Here we have individuals who refuse to look into other religions because they have been BRAINWASHED since their birth.
            I am a pan religionist as I do believe in all goodness in religions and reject evil in it. I rejected the evil introduced by man into my religion as should others reject evil in theirs. EVIL is in acts of terror like blowing innocent people in the name of religion… and I mean any religion… McVeigh Davidians, Al-Qaeda’s Jihad etc… That is EVIL. PURE EVIL… We will find you and get you out of our humanity by force if we have to and pick you one by one until YOU GUYS ARE NO MORE…

        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          As you said “in the past”
          We Christians live in the moment as in TODAY… Unlike the Shia-Sunni Strife that is a war of the past still going on in the present.
          The Church is not your enemy… Your enemy is within Islam itself… It is self-destructing because it cannot shed the past. This is not an opinion. These are facts. 😉

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Yeah blame islam for everything bala sharof lek what has your existance ever achieved?Besides the fact you take every oppertunity to preventing your eyes falling onto you by blaming islam and other humans and life itself you remind me of a hippy bala sharof. Who are you supposed to be your just a carcus that carries fieces and urine around and you will be dead before you know it. One day all religion out the window one day uncle joes concious one day hariri assoudi what is your cause supposed to be?

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I never carried any other name but Hannibal and Jose… All the others were actually opposed to my views. Wanna resort to personal attacks? Do not get me started because you won’t survive… That is FIRST!
            SECOND: I am not attacking Islam… I am attacking Islamists and then the strife between Sunni and Shia… YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE YOUR PROBLEMS SO BE IT… Christianity EVOLVED! Your religion is not to blame but your culture of PAST is… Therefore I tell you you live in a PAST… As Islam in its current wahabi form is really really backwardly and will NOT survive us.
            THIRD: We all die but unlike you Christ resurrected us whereas you will be in Hell and then ONLY THEN you will believe that through Him is salvation.
            Convert to Christianity you heathen heretic or taste death in hell…

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hannibal  AntiFSA • 3 hours ago−

            As you said “in the past”We Christians live in the moment as in TODAY… Unlike the Shia-Sunni Strife that is a war of the past still going on in the present.The Church is not your enemy… Your enemy is within Islam itself… It is self-destructing because it cannot shed the past. This is not an opinion. These are facts. 😉

            Read what you confess before trying to flip the script.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hannibal … better not mention that ‘one-family-church’ in Westboro (whatever that is). … it’s not a very good evolutionary example. 😉
            I have a dream … probably not ‘reasonable’ to describe .. but, for blood pressure – at least …
            There was a guy named Moho (Muha)(Moha) mmod (ad)(ed) who thought he actually had peace because he was dead. And then people started saying ‘peace be upon him’ … and each time that happened a match was lit under his ass … and by now, he has no peace at all … no matter HOW the names are spelt or said, because a HELL of a lot of people keep saying it.
            What does it mean ??
            We need a dream-guru here, I think. I wake up chuckling every time I have it.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Yeah another 2cents you have used up thats not helping society just spreading devience and mockery. What you sew you reap and what you see in others exists in yourself.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ok … one interpretation … thanks.

          7. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            You can’t serious Hannibal, were have said the Church is my enermy. I have said to you before and ill say it to you again, no religion in its purerest form ever preachers hate, especially Islam. You are now starting to sound like Constantin, tarnishing all Muslims because of a minority that is causing havoc. Furthermore it is in actual fact Christians who can not shred the past. Just stop and really read what most on this blog who are Christian say. Islam did this and Islam did that. DID Hannibal, past tense. As for the whole Shiite and Sunni strife you mentioned, this but a seed planted by the west in order to dominate the flow of petrol and gas like this whole Syria thing. It what’s called divide and a conquer. Unfortunately some are stupid enough to fall into this trap including the Christians.

          8. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You said: he always fails to mention is all the bad the Church has done in the past

            REALLY? Which church? You mean the middle ages? you mean the Crusades? Christianity is not ONE. The Church is not ONE.

            and please spare me the West thingy… A house divided has only its inhabitants to blame. Not its neighbors. Try to divide the Israelis… They will always look for the survival of Judaism even though there are many school of thoughts there. What unify them is a belief in a Nation. Where is our nation? Let me tell you…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Hy1boWeWc

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Like the preachers who still molester kids yea? Your one of those hatemongers that should take his own advice ive evn showed you your own bible proving mohommed peace be upon him as a prophet but you would rather ignore and look at the differences because you think your self compitent better than there was and better than the rest. So tell me whose all these problems starting from if you insist on not admitting mohommed peace be upon him as a prophet not letting go of the past ay hannibal or jose or joe multipersonality disorder much?

          10. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Like the imam who banged his child of five and than killed her. We never see or hear of the thousands of boys who are spoiled by Muslim preachers in The ME But that will never be in the news. Just imagine Muslims putting that on tv. Yeh rite.

          11. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            09 did hanniboy call you for backup? I merely made an example with all his evolution of the churches talk they still suffer this strife. That the world isnt all rainbows and butterflies corruption still exists and nobody is perfect. If stupid bloggers like yourself would stop using islam and every other thing in this world as an excuse to justify your errors (judgment perception laziness negligance) the world would be a better place starting with this blog. How do you do this you ask? Easy look at the things we have in common for a start.optamism.not oppurtunist. Or you can use 5th and hanibals philosophy and pretend to forget what happened 5 minutes ago and be a hippy.live in the noooww in the present hahaha

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Oh be reasonable … everyone has their own opinion, don’t they? ;-))))

          13. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            Hilarious :))))

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Sure

          15. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Sorry bud I am not using Islam ,YOU THINK in your head only… I am also saying the world blames Christians for HOMOPHOBIA Child abuse, sexual abuse and put it in the NEWS like there is no other thing going on.. Out of 2 million rapes in institutions be government or religious 1000 are by brothers of the church BUT I do not see reports on and people jumping up and down about the others ONLY THE CHRISTIAN SIDE IS PLASTERED ON THE NEWS DAILY…….HOW IS THAT OK TELL ME SO….so I wonder who is using ISLAM because I am not blaming Islam read between the lines LOL…I do blame the church but I also blame every other INSTITUTION AS WELLLLLL…..I will give you an situation I see in real life, I have worked around the world with charity helping Muslims Christians and HUMANS AS ONE. In Africa I sat in front of two Muslim boys aged between 9 and 12 and to hear the story of what a Muslim Cleric did to them was worst than hell, but I never see that in the news do I. SO NO I AM NOT USING ISLAM I AM SAYING BLAME ALL NOT JUST ONE….BUT WE ARE ALL STUPID WHEN I COMES TO REAL STUFF….HAHAH GET REAL BUD AND YOU STOP THE FINGER POINTING BECAUSE I AM NOT POINTING FINGERS…HAHAHAHAH POOR FELLA…

          16. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I totally agree with you master, (which is very surprising lol) Child molestation is not only found in the Church, but in every religion institute For me, any animal that molests a child whether they are Muslim, Christian, or any religion for that matter should be put to death. No questions asked.

          17. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Im supposed to read between the lines? If all i see from your posts is islam this islam that, i can only make a judgement out of arrogance and distress so you make use of yourself and start explaining what you mean. What is every human a mind reader or maybe your the one who thinks too himself too much pssht.

          18. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Agree 1%or 100 I really am not here for anyone to agree. Always 2 sides of a page.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (still trying to figure out why it was bad to be ‘hip’ … hmmm … it was damn difficult when I found out I was allergic to MJ … had to be cool naturally instead)

          20. Constantin7 Avatar
            Constantin7

            Exactly Master09, the muslim societies all over the world are perfect ones !!!!!! We do not hear about all the children abused, the women beaten and killed, etc….why because this is OK and normal in Islam. Muslims have their prophet, ashraf el-kholk (as they call him), as their role model to look up to and imitate. Mohammad used God to impose his will, his way, his teachings, his norms, and his wishes on atheist ignorants in the desert and then used these ignorants to force, by the sword, all these “values” on other tribes and countries. No wonder that HA uses also the word “GOD” (Allah) in their name, to impose their will on others, they are just using the same method that their prophet used. Hiding behind God and pretend doing God’s will is a very powerful tactic, hence the success of Islam for the last 1400 years. But thanks to the information technology revolution that now everything has been revealed and all you need to know is at the tip of your fingers, and the blind belief in an alleged criminal prophet is over. There just cannot be an educated person (no need for a PhD) who uses his mind and believes in this alleged prophet. To believe in this man you have to believe blindly otherwise you cannot believe.
            So the so-called “Spring Arab” revolutions, although they seem political revolutions, I see them more as revolutions of the right against the wrong, of justice against the injustice, of the good against the evil, of knowledge against the ignorance, which at the end is completely against Islam and all it stands for, which is believing blindly in something that the mind and basic human values does not accept. So all these revolutions are the start of the digging to get to the ugly truth that has been hidden for 1,400 years. Notice in Tunisia and Egypt already a second phase of this revolution is revealing itself by the revolt against the islamists in power…….Well this is my adrenaline rush for today….
            PS: I do not and will not attack personally anybody here and will not respond to any personal attacks. Everybody by now knows my views and who does not like them please do not read my postings.

          21. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I never discussed Mohammed… Nor did I ever deny his prophecy. I deny your interpretation of scriptures. That is different.
            You will find the good the bad and the ugly everywhere including among priests who were drawn and hid in the medium to commit pedophilia. Those un-people were sick already and found fertile ground to hide and do their act. Let me ask you this: If you were celibate would you molest a kid? I am sure you find it despicably disgusting and wrong. That is why my argument is that priesthood does not create pedophiles but pedophiles go there like you go find food in the supermarket. I am glad it was brought to the limelight and it was dealt with.
            So there, while you deny my religion I never denied yours.

          22. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I do not deny the exisistance of jesus peace be upon him . But why would you bring up the sunni shia strife to begging with?? your motives are to defame the religion of islam so dont tell me otherwise (islam,islamist all derive from islam) while claiming your theory of christians living in TODAY to be omnipotent?
            Now we have come to the conclusion that there also is corruption in churches mosques homes so lets not go there.

          23. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I bring it up because it exists… No other motives. I find it stupid and destructive.

          24. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Totally irrelivant to the conversation we could of all done without. JusT proves intolerance for and was a surface based statement. Instead of saying a certain kind of people are destructive how about you sort yourself out go do some community service help an old lady cross the street or go join the police force.

          25. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            But I do… I am committed to 5 acts of kindness a day each corresponding to one of Jesus’ wounds on the cross. I said it before, your deeds are your salvation not your religious books.

          26. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I didnt mean that figuratively thats why i stated before that you are smarter than that statement. you do it for jesus she does it for buddha thats all something that comes back to the individual here or hereafter. My point is really relavent to the statement you just made wich is to busy oneself with good deads not for rewards but for the sake of doing it. Which what we muslims say enjoyning in good. Forbidding the evil. The first evil being ourself which often is portrayed by the use of our tongues. It causes strife when used to defame 🙂

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I’d go with that. 🙂

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (As a ‘boy-scout’ I only had to do one a day. Hannibal goes overboard.)
            😉

          29. Zaatar Avatar
            Zaatar

            I have to say, that I am impressed Hannibal. You and 5th have inspired me to start doing the same. I will start with one per day (kinda new at this) and see how it goes 😉

  5. Persistent Avatar
    Persistent

    Two old couple have been married for over 50 years and were having a boring evening, the old man tells the old lady, how about if we watch a porn movie, the old lady agrees. Half way through the movie, the old man falls asleep while the old lady watched every second of it. At the end …the old lady says honey…. honey…he doesn’t answer, she tries again a little louder, honey….honey…. he still doesn’t answer, she tries for a third time much louder, honey….honey…..he goes what…what….she goes you know something for over fifty years we have been doing it all wrong… all wrong…

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Too Late to realize the benefit of a good education. ;-))

  6. Persistent Avatar
    Persistent

    Two old couple have been married for over 50 years and were having a boring evening, the old man tells the old lady, how about if we watch a porn movie, the old lady agrees. Half way through the movie, the old man falls asleep while the old lady watched every second of it. At the end …the old lady says honey…. honey…he doesn’t answer, she tries again a little louder, honey….honey…. he still doesn’t answer, she tries for a third time much louder, honey….honey…..he goes what…what….she goes you know something for over fifty years we have been doing it all wrong… all wrong…

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Too Late to realize the benefit of a good education. ;-))

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