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Hezbollah chief now wants opposition engaged in dialogue on defense strategy

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Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah on Thursday called on the March 14 alliance to engage the current majority in dialogue to help build the Lebanese state. Nasrallah also said that March 14 has “declared war” on Prime Minister Najib Mikati’s March 8-led government since it was formed in July 2011.

“Let us hold dialogue in the government and the parliament on the issues which we disagree on. It is unacceptable to diverge on one or two issues and obstruct other [matters],” he said in an address broadcast live to a graduation ceremony of women Hezbollah students.

“There are [those who say] that there is no [Lebanese] state with the presence of the Resistance’s weapons. Does this mean that social issues should not be addressed, because [of the Resistance’s arms]? This is not fair and realistic,” the Hezbollah chief added in reference to March 14.

“[On the contrary] this means [that the groups who support such arguments have commitments toward] the US and Western states.”

Nasrallah added that Hezbollah has supported dialogue efforts, including joining past national-unity governments headed by March 14 premiers.

“We disagreed on the issue of the Special Tribunal for Lebanon while March 14 rejected dialogue… Afterward we resigned,” he said in reference to March 8’s toppling of former PM Saad Hariri’s government on January 12, 2011.

However, Nasrallah added, “We are ready at any moment to join dialogue on the defense strategy and we need to be serious… We need to build a state through reason.”

President Michel Sleiman has repeatedly called for the resumption of national dialogue sessions, but March 14 figures refuse to participate in the proposed session unless it tackles the issue of Hezbollah’s arms.

Nasrallah also addressed the year-long revolts in Syria, calling for an end to bloodshed.

“Since the first day we called for militant confrontations not to take place and for everyone to embrace a political solution. We feel sad for every drop of blood shed by every human in Syria.”

He also voiced his worries that there are “threats to partition Syria,” and said that Syria’s security is interlinked with Lebanon’s.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that over 9,000 people have been killed since protests erupted in the strife-stricken country in mid-March 2011.

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89 responses to “Hezbollah chief now wants opposition engaged in dialogue on defense strategy”

  1. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Why not place a circle of land mines around Mr. ‘N’s’ rathole??

  2. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Why not place a circle of land mines around Mr. ‘N’s’ rathole??

  3. kamille1 Avatar
    kamille1

    the heat is being felt..

    1. Nopressure Avatar
      Nopressure

      Have you ever considered that reaching out can be interpreted as a sign of strength and not weakness? Have you also heard of something called discussions, debate, negotiations, dialogue….. That is how usually reasonable people reach solutions and achieve results.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Reaching out Nopressure?? Would you reach out to shake the hand of someone who wants to crush yours simply because you don’t fit his lifestyle?
        He wants you to live ‘his way’ only … and has threatened everyone enough times with his weaponry – and used it too – and one tends to be a little wary after a while. What has changed, except the world around him? Where has any of his dialogue gone except in hatred? What can he boast of except an army of trained killers bent on dying for his cause?
        But go ahead. Give him some dialogue. See what he does with it.

        And ask those Hezzbolla Women ‘students’ how free their education has been while you’re at it.

        1. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          I can tell you one thing, “charity starts at home” what I mean is that you must start doing what you believe is the right thing and believe in yourself, be a good to others, it is the utmost gift you can give humanity. People usually see that and catch on to it. One person at a time, it is like how you raise your kids.

          Let’s stop blaming others for what is wrong, let’s lead, it is easy to take the easy way out while it takes a strong person to go against the tide. One thing is certain, it takes two to fight, let’s not give the other side the pleasure and step down to that level. Weak people who are looking for fights and insulting others because that is who they are while strong people use reason and logic to overcome challanges.

          Hear this, we were about 150 students in one class and the professor said to us, by the first week half of you will drop out after I explain to you what I expect from all of you. True enough at the end of the semester there were only 27 of us. What I am saying, if you believe in what you are doing nothing will derail you from achieving your goals.

          Think about it, you seem to be a smart person….

      2. American Infidels Avatar
        American Infidels

         Says the proud Hezbollah terrorist…

        1. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          I hope this site is not becoming a show of who can be the most obnoxious and a contest for who can get the most likes.

          We need solutions, ideas and speak to one another and not at each other. We should speak to others as we want to be spoken to and as for you guys, with honey you can catch more women. lol…

          1. American Infidels Avatar
            American Infidels

            When you shill for a known major terror organization that seized power as a satellite government for the world leaders of terrorism, to offer negotiations,I stand by my statement.Hezbollah is actively murdering Syrians in Syria and in Lebanon all the while claiming to be resistance from the boogy man..If the shoe fits…

          2. American Infidels Avatar
            American Infidels

            When you shill for a known major terror organization that seized power as a satellite government for the world leaders of terrorism, to offer negotiations,I stand by my statement.Hezbollah is actively murdering Syrians in Syria and in Lebanon all the while claiming to be resistance from the boogy man..If the shoe fits…

      3. kamille1 Avatar
        kamille1

        i totally agree with you about negotiations, discussions and debates..how many leaders been asking for discussions and for how many years now??? and this idiot will discuss anything but the weapons..but the weapons are part of the problems we have, but it’s either his way or the highway..NOBODY CAN NEGOTIATE WITH A GUN POINTED TO THEIR HEAD..cause  they will lose..but now he feels a little heat, he knows something major about to happen, thank god.

        1. C S Avatar
          C S

          I agree with Kamille1. Nasrallah, the Iranian Puppet, who has held a gun to the head of the Lebanese Government for so many long years, will soon see that smile disappear from his face….hopefully, his entire face will disappear. Anyone with half a brain, can clearly see he is very worried about his own ass right now, as he knows someone, somewhere, is getting ready to stick a gun up his ass and finally get rid of him. I am so happy, that everyday I wake up hoping to hear the good news that this bastard has finally turned to dust…..goodbye you dog, and I hope your ending, is the most violent of all endings even an asshole like you can think of. The world is not going to miss you, you son of a bitch. Fuck you….and goodbye forever. It’s coming….and soon, too…

        2. lebanesesam Avatar
          lebanesesam

          Kamille and C S, be careful what you say, because fackos dabshaleem & 5thDrawer will call you salafite and zionist – two idiots, Tanjara wl2et ghataha – Teazeh 7ad baydati – kol teen wo khra 3a joz

        3. lebanesesam Avatar
          lebanesesam

          Kamille and C S, be careful what you say, because fackos dabshaleem & 5thDrawer will call you salafite and zionist – two idiots, Tanjara wl2et ghataha – Teazeh 7ad baydati – kol teen wo khra 3a joz

        4. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          You have a valid point regarding the weapons but you are taking a simplistic view of the situation as a whole, Lebanese politicians in particular find a reason to argue, this way they can cover their incompetence and avoid doing the people’s business, they play us against each other and that is how they draw their support and stay in power.

        5. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Well Folks … now that Lebanesesam has confused me with Dabsaleem (above) you might understand the difficulty of ‘dialogue’ …  even the discussion here when written down is confusing. 
          Damn you Dab :-)))
          Better to write a ‘Manifesto’ of intent – however – than just sit and dialogue. Do it in point form, and discuss each point if you like. Then write a conclusion of consensus … so no-one can argue over what it actually says in the future. And lock it up under bullet-proof glass so no-one can change it, but can see it to verify when they need to be reminded.
          Publish it far and wide. Teach it to the children so they actually understand it too. And allow for a method of consensual change or revision when the future brings futhur dialogues, if the change is valid from the view-point of needs of a humanitarian society.
          Now, if you always want to be a ‘War Society’, or don’t want equality for some groups … fine. Make it  the law of the land. Even special ‘war-days’ can be debated for consensus I suppose. Holidays. 😉

  4. kamille1 Avatar
    kamille1

    the heat is being felt..

    1. Nopressure Avatar
      Nopressure

      Have you ever considered that reaching out can be interpreted as a sign of strength and not weakness? Have you also heard of something called discussions, debate, negotiations, dialogue….. That is how usually reasonable people reach solutions and achieve results.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Reaching out Nopressure?? Would you reach out to shake the hand of someone who wants to crush yours simply because you don’t fit his lifestyle?
        He wants you to live ‘his way’ only … and has threatened everyone enough times with his weaponry – and used it too – and one tends to be a little wary after a while. What has changed, except the world around him? Where has any of his dialogue gone except in hatred? What can he boast of except an army of trained killers bent on dying for his cause?
        But go ahead. Give him some dialogue. See what he does with it.

        And ask those Hezzbolla Women ‘students’ how free their education has been while you’re at it.

        1. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          I can tell you one thing, “charity starts at home” what I mean is that you must start doing what you believe is the right thing and believe in yourself, be a good to others, it is the utmost gift you can give humanity. People usually see that and catch on to it. One person at a time, it is like how you raise your kids.

          Let’s stop blaming others for what is wrong, let’s lead, it is easy to take the easy way out while it takes a strong person to go against the tide. One thing is certain, it takes two to fight, let’s not give the other side the pleasure and step down to that level. Weak people who are looking for fights and insulting others because that is who they are while strong people use reason and logic to overcome challanges.

          Hear this, we were about 150 students in one class and the professor said to us, by the first week half of you will drop out after I explain to you what I expect from all of you. True enough at the end of the semester there were only 27 of us. What I am saying, if you believe in what you are doing nothing will derail you from achieving your goals.

          Think about it, you seem to be a smart person….

      2. Iran Aware Avatar
        Iran Aware

         Says the proud Hezbollah terrorist…

        1. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          I hope this site is not becoming a show of who can be the most obnoxious and a contest for who can get the most likes.

          We need solutions, ideas and speak to one another and not at each other. We should speak to others as we want to be spoken to and as for you guys, with honey you can catch more women. lol…

          1. Iran Aware Avatar
            Iran Aware

            When you shill for a known major terror organization that seized power as a satellite government for the world leaders of terrorism, to offer negotiations,I stand by my statement.Hezbollah is actively murdering Syrians in Syria and in Lebanon all the while claiming to be resistance from the boogy man..If the shoe fits…

      3. kamille1 Avatar
        kamille1

        i totally agree with you about negotiations, discussions and debates..how many leaders been asking for discussions and for how many years now??? and this idiot will discuss anything but the weapons..but the weapons are part of the problems we have, but it’s either his way or the highway..NOBODY CAN NEGOTIATE WITH A GUN POINTED TO THEIR HEAD..cause  they will lose..but now he feels a little heat, he knows something major about to happen, thank god.

        1. lebanesesam Avatar
          lebanesesam

          Kamille and C S, be careful what you say, because fackos dabshaleem & 5thDrawer will call you salafite and zionist – two idiots, Tanjara wl2et ghataha – Teazeh 7ad baydati – kol teen wo khra 3a joz

        2. Nopressure Avatar
          Nopressure

          You have a valid point regarding the weapons but you are taking a simplistic view of the situation as a whole, Lebanese politicians in particular find a reason to argue, this way they can cover their incompetence and avoid doing the people’s business, they play us against each other and that is how they draw their support and stay in power.

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Well Folks … now that Lebanesesam has confused me with Dabsaleem (above) you might understand the difficulty of ‘dialogue’ …  even the discussion here when written down is confusing. 
          Damn you Dab :-)))
          Better to write a ‘Manifesto’ of intent – however – than just sit and dialogue. Do it in point form, and discuss each point if you like. Then write a conclusion of consensus … so no-one can argue over what it actually says in the future. And lock it up under bullet-proof glass so no-one can change it, but can see it to verify when they need to be reminded.
          Publish it far and wide. Teach it to the children so they actually understand it too. And allow for a method of consensual change or revision when the future brings futhur dialogues, if the change is valid from the view-point of needs of a humanitarian society.
          Now, if you always want to be a ‘War Society’, or don’t want equality for some groups … fine. Make it  the law of the land. Even special ‘war-days’ can be debated for consensus I suppose. Holidays. 😉

  5. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    And where has the ‘reason’ been for many years, idiot. 
    We like US and western states .. they have electricity, clean water, and a viable internet in most places. A freedom to speak their minds, and when they vote – bad or good – what they vote for they are stuck with for 4 years – usually. Sometimes this teaches them how to vote.
    What is there in Lebanon? Resistance, resistance, resistance …. and kissing the asses of child murderers in other countries.
    If you really want ‘dialogue’, we have some for you … can you listen without pulling out a gun ??

    1. Nopressure Avatar
      Nopressure

      Your last sentence made me think of what John F. Kennedy said “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”.  That means people build countries and not the other way around. We need to pull our sleeves and help build that country, and I mean not just with words, how do you expect things to improve and all we ever offer is criticism, how about solutions for a change. 

      Could it be that the only time we love Lebanon is when we have something to gain or something offered to us?

      Judging by the comments I read on this site, people exchanging insults, bashing Lebanon, and others does not provide any comfort or much hope for the future.   

    2. kamille1 Avatar
      kamille1

      i normaly agree with you on everything you say 5th, but here, the only thing i agree with you on, is the last phrase..despite all the problems that we have in lebanon, if i had a chance to make a good living, i won’t hesitate a second before i pack my bags and go back..i will even put up with no electricity for 8 hours a day, there no place like lebanon and its people..

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Think of Tripoli Kamille – Lebanon’s second biggest city not counting recent refugees – with only 4 hrs a day. However, I am not on here because I hate Lebanon. I hate what happens to it generation after generation. After a short time of what seemed viable reconstruction and a growing feeling of human freedom after the ’25 year’s war’ – even with Syria occupying – the feeling was dashed into the dirt by one huge bomb that killed 22 and left 200 remembering for life. After that, although the Syrian army was prompted to withdraw, things just went back to a war-feeling. And became worse since then. Trying to find ‘reason’ within the ‘talking heads’ seems a rare moment or an impossibility.
         Many found freedom and a living elsewhere. You and Nopressure with the energy of youth may try the dialogues again. But you attempt dialogue with ancient minds, I fear.
         After another generation of the kind of teaching Nastyrallah does, your children won’t be able to say anything that makes remote sense to Nasty’s grandchildren, if you can’t survive his kind of dialogue now and move him toward your kind of thinking … which I presume is full of thoughts about democratic elections of politicians who actually do something FOR a country and it’s people without requiring allegiance to a particular hill, or religion, or lifestyle, or some guy who drops more money in their pockets.
         Yet democracy struggles always. And a generation becomes tired of speaking up for it, when dialogue never is allowed to work.
         There has been MUCH dialogue about the electricity, the pollution, the lack of safe water from a tap or of what flows to the ocean, the roads, the pay of the least doing the work the greatest won’t do. Actually people dialogue about it all the time. No-one listens. All the ‘government’ talking is not even capable of putting in a hydro pole. And why? Because no ‘national’ plan exists. There is no real national thinking – or government.  And if the above reported speech by Nasty is an example of his ‘dialogue’, then it is simply not dialogue. It is a typical diatribe instead. Diatribes seem to be the normal for the old minds you want to talk to … and even on this blog-spot pop up all the time.
         Diatribes do not leave much room for hope that there could be a good result for ALL the people.
        Some of us are tired of listening to them … and can no longer believe – as much as we wish for the land we love some success for ‘reason’ to take hold – that the ones like Nasty will ever be capable of having a reasoned discussion without turning it into a diatribe … which leads to the gun they love to wave around when some diatribe comes back at them. We have seen it too often.
        And I am sorry to say, they have set the example everyone follows.
        Of course, it’s not only Lebanon that has those types … in some places, as Nopressure points out, there occurs a brain that makes good speeches, has better thoughts, and causes creative dialogue to flow. One that can lead it’s people. And look what happened to that one.

        1. dateam Avatar
          dateam

          5th you make some valid points buts you can just blame one side it’s all of them…we have a government yet those not in government seem to make all the decisions from all sides….we as the people need to tell the older generation to step aside and let us take over…..enough of this passing on from one son to another and so on…..enough of the sectarian line of thinking…..re this article I don’t see how it’s so difficult? In order for hzb to give up it’s weapons we need dialogue….obviously certain needs and concerns from both sides need to be addressed….the army needs to be strengthened ( how do we address that? ) then slowly the weapons can be brought in and the fighters under the order and control of the army…..you have to understand both sides point of view and why it has gotten to wear it is…. You cannot blame certain people unless you understand what they have been thru from both sides……all this talk of this sect taking over this and that is all utter nonsense no one in Lebanon can rule over anyone…..until we start seeing each other as Lebanese first this will go on and on

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    And where has the ‘reason’ been for many years, idiot. 
    We like US and western states .. they have electricity, clean water, and a viable internet in most places. A freedom to speak their minds, and when they vote – bad or good – what they vote for they are stuck with for 4 years – usually. Sometimes this teaches them how to vote.
    What is there in Lebanon? Resistance, resistance, resistance …. and kissing the asses of child murderers in other countries.
    If you really want ‘dialogue’, we have some for you … can you listen without pulling out a gun ??

    1. Nopressure Avatar
      Nopressure

      Your last sentence made me think of what John F. Kennedy said “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”.  That means people build countries and not the other way around. We need to pull our sleeves and help build that country, and I mean not just with words, how do you expect things to improve and all we ever offer is criticism, how about solutions for a change. 

      Could it be that the only time we love Lebanon is when we have something to gain or something offered to us?

      Judging by the comments I read on this site, people exchanging insults, bashing Lebanon, and others does not provide any comfort or much hope for the future.   

    2. kamille1 Avatar
      kamille1

      i normaly agree with you on everything you say 5th, but here, the only thing i agree with you on is the last paragraph..despite all the problems that we have in lebanon, if i had a chance to make a good living, i won’t hesitate a second before i pack my bags and go back..i will even put up with no electricity for 8 hours a day, there no place like lebanon and its people..

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Think of Tripoli Kamille – Lebanon’s second biggest city not counting recent refugees – with only 4 hrs a day. However, I am not on here because I hate Lebanon. I hate what happens to it generation after generation. After a short time of what seemed viable reconstruction and a growing feeling of human freedom after the ’25 year’s war’ – even with Syria occupying – the feeling was dashed into the dirt by one huge bomb that killed 22 and left 200 remembering for life. After that, although the Syrian army was prompted to withdraw, things just went back to a war-feeling. And became worse since then. Trying to find ‘reason’ within the ‘talking heads’ seems a rare moment or an impossibility.
         Many found freedom and a living elsewhere. You and Nopressure with the energy of youth may try the dialogues again. But you attempt dialogue with ancient minds, I fear.
         After another generation of the kind of teaching Nastyrallah does, your children won’t be able to say anything that makes remote sense to Nasty’s grandchildren, if you can’t survive his kind of dialogue now and move him toward your kind of thinking … which I presume is full of thoughts about democratic elections of politicians who actually do something FOR a country and it’s people without requiring allegiance to a particular hill, or religion, or lifestyle, or some guy who drops more money in their pockets.
         Yet democracy struggles always. And a generation becomes tired of speaking up for it, when dialogue never is allowed to work.
         There has been MUCH dialogue about the electricity, the pollution, the lack of safe water from a tap or of what flows to the ocean, the roads, the pay of the least doing the work the greatest won’t do. Actually people dialogue about it all the time. No-one listens. All the ‘government’ talking is not even capable of putting in a hydro pole. And why? Because no ‘national’ plan exists. There is no real national thinking – or government.  And if the above reported speech by Nasty is an example of his ‘dialogue’, then it is simply not dialogue. It is a typical diatribe instead. Diatribes seem to be the normal for the old minds you want to talk to … and even on this blog-spot pop up all the time.
         Diatribes do not leave much room for hope that there could be a good result for ALL the people.
        Some of us are tired of listening to them … and can no longer believe – as much as we wish for the land we love some success for ‘reason’ to take hold – that the ones like Nasty will ever be capable of having a reasoned discussion without turning it into a diatribe … which leads to the gun they love to wave around when some diatribe comes back at them. We have seen it too often.
        And I am sorry to say, they have set the example everyone follows.
        Of course, it’s not only Lebanon that has those types … in some places, as Nopressure points out, there occurs a brain that makes good speeches, has better thoughts, and causes creative dialogue to flow. One that can lead it’s people. And look what happened to that one.

        1. dateam Avatar
          dateam

          5th you make some valid points buts you can just blame one side it’s all of them…we have a government yet those not in government seem to make all the decisions from all sides….we as the people need to tell the older generation to step aside and let us take over…..enough of this passing on from one son to another and so on…..enough of the sectarian line of thinking…..re this article I don’t see how it’s so difficult? In order for hzb to give up it’s weapons we need dialogue….obviously certain needs and concerns from both sides need to be addressed….the army needs to be strengthened ( how do we address that? ) then slowly the weapons can be brought in and the fighters under the order and control of the army…..you have to understand both sides point of view and why it has gotten to wear it is…. You cannot blame certain people unless you understand what they have been thru from both sides……all this talk of this sect taking over this and that is all utter nonsense no one in Lebanon can rule over anyone…..until we start seeing each other as Lebanese first this will go on and on

  7. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    Is he wearing a gold ring?

    1. yazidi Avatar
      yazidi

      no his wearing a Copper ring hope a thunderbolt can strike him and join the faqih in hell. god help the death angel when he grab his stinky  devilish soul

  8. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    Is he wearing a gold ring?

    1. yazidi Avatar
      yazidi

      no his wearing a Copper ring hope a thunderbolt can strike him and join the faqih in hell. god help the death angel when he grab his stinky  devilish soul

  9. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    the issue of arms has been brought up since god knows when…after the 2006 war a defense strategy was suppossed to be discussed…however what is the first thing march 14 did….they canceld conscription from the army??? that is their defense strategy immediately after a war we cancelled conscription yet our so called enemy israel has conscription for men and women….what is march 14 proposal? how do they think they can strengthen the army? the usa france britian are not going to arm our army in a way that defends us from israel? are they going to give us surface to air missiles to stop illegal israeli over flights? to have a defense strategy you must have a deterrence so as to make the enemy think twice about ever invading or entering our airspace illegally….so again i ask how does m14 expect to address this? its simple sit down form a unit within the army that is controlled by the army under their orders and then the weapons become under the control of the army…in affect their weapons will be controlled by the government….all m14 seem to do for the past 7 years is talk but lets be honest what have they done? all the west does is strngthen internal security forces so they can be used to keep the populations quiet….

    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      You know what I get sick of  people saying we need to protect Lebanon from Isreal. WHY the reason Isreal keeps eyes out on Lebanon and fly over and have come into our land, is because to start with the Plo fired rocket after rocket,in came Isreal, HA is in Lebanon for one reason the destruction of Isreal. If you was the Jewish Governmet what would you do….. Lebanon is in danger not from Isreal but because we have weapons pointed at Isreal from HA and Palestinian Arabs in Lebanon…..Do you think Isreal is going to sit and drink coffee…Take the weapons and threats away and the Jewish state will leave us alone………..The resistance is a gang and it runs Lebanon and holds it hostage, not Isreal….WHY DID ISREAL COME INTO LEBANON IN THE FIRST PLACE???????????

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        master09 if thats your opinion good luck i must say it amazes me that anyone would think that…but just remeber if it wasnt for lebanon resisting the palestinians would have been shovelled into southern lebanon which is what the original idea of israel invading was….if anyone thinks that lebanon should not have a detterrent and how then thats not acceptable for any country….

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          You still not answer the real ?? why Isreal first came into Lebanon and why it will again.? All I did was amaze you.. Its not my opinion it is the fact, history and facts show it. Read the last 40 years of conflict btw Lebanon and Isreal. Who cares about my Opinion… Prove me wrong. The Plo that came into Lebanon what country kicked them out first???? Make it easy, first black sept.
          Than this…. In 1968, the first large scale Israeli incursion into Lebanon took place, in order to force the Lebanese Government to control the Palestinian guerrillas, and the subsequent pro-Palestinian demonstrations that took place marked the first of the Palestinian related crises that began to have a serious effect on Lebanon’s political system. Any armed group in a country will not related to the army will do what??????? come in HA who have nothing to do with Lebanon, but that depends on what language you speak or what side of the fence your on……
          You see I am not on anyone side but people fail to see that if you have someone threaten another country and remember Amal which is HA today used to fight Palestinians, but now they are on their side, come on…..
          …The camps war, 1985 – 1987
          Between 1985 and 1987, the Syrian backed Amal Movement, a major Shia militia, attacked several Palestinian camps in Beirut and in the South in order to get rid of the remaining pro-Arafat PLO combatants .
          During the 1970s, the PLO rapidly became a political power and extended financial and military support to the Lebanese left-wing, which angered the Maronites and right-wing parties. PLO attacks against Israel led to Israeli retaliations against Palestinians and Lebanese, especially in the South, which in turn diminished Lebanese support for the Palestinians and their cause.

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        “We must expel Arabs and take their places.” — David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

        “There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”– Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
        “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.”
        — Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha’aretz; quoted in Edward Said, ‘Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims’, Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.
        “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”– David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
        “If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”– David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
        David Ben GurionPrime Minister of Israel1949 – 1954,1955 – 1963″There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”– Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.
        “How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to.”– Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
        “Any one who speaks in favor of bringing the Arab refugees back must also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is interested in the state of Israel. It is better that things are stated clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen.” — Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner, October 1961
        “This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.”– Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971
        Golda MeirPrime Minister of Israel1969 – 1974  “We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!”– Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
        “[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat.”– Yitzhak Rabin (a “Prince of Peace” by Clinton’s standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen’s remarks to the Knesset’s foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)
        Yitzhak RabinPrime Minister of Israel1974 – 1977, 1992 – 1995  “[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs.”
        — Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the ‘Beasts,”‘ New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
        “The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized …. Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever.”– Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.
        Menachem BeginPrime Minister of Israel1977 – 1983  “The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations, for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country.”– Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.
        “The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It’s that simple.”– Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.
        “(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls.”– Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
        Yizhak ShamirPrime Minister of Israel1983 – 1984, 1986 – 1992  “Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories.”– Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
        Benjamin NetanyahuPrime Minister of Israel1996 – 1999″The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more”…. — Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time – August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
        “If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force….”– Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

        “I would have joined a terrorist organization.”– Ehud Barak’s response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha’aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.
        Ehud BarakPrime Minister of Israel1999 – 2001  “It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”
        — Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
        “Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don’t grab will go to them.”– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
        “Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.”
        — Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online Ariel SharonPrime Minister of Israel2001 – present   il leave this for you

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Nice collection of ‘Dialogues From The Past’. Anyone with a list from Hezzys ??

        2. master09 Avatar
          master09

          PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: “The Palestinian people does not exist”
          Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:

          The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

          Good copy and paste just like mine great articles… but you have gone away from what I have been trying to say.1. If you walk in a room to make peace and your holding a gun, now would that be a good start….2. over tens of times the Jewish state has offered 94% of the land back to the PAlestinian Arabs.Jordan has offered non……   I wrote back to you why Isreal keeps coming into Lebanon and keeping a watch every day with jet flights and a fence on the border. We have Palestinian camps in Jordan, why is it that the Jews do not enter or in Syria why do they not bomb Syria or Jordan. That is because no body is firingrockets from there or stocking 50000 rockets and every day threaten the xestance of the Jewish state
          .Now I did not say the Palestinians should not have a home , but What I am saying is that HA is using the Palestinian situation to wage war in another country that does not belong to them and they do not care about Lebanon because it is an Iran war on someone else land…….The Arab Palestinians deserve a home like you or I but this has nothing to do with the Palestinians.Take the weapons away and take away the threats and sit on a table and talk even if it takes 10 years, but with guns it will take 10000 years…..But the Jews did offer 94% but the Arabs keep saying NO NO NO. With land swops….always no no no.So I am not talking about the Palestinians , I am talking about Iran using the Palestinian situation to say we can use someone elses country to keep weapons and when we want fire them where we want.

          HOW is that ok to have them as our resistance…HA who do not GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LEBANON OR THE PALESTINIANS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT AND BY THE WAY NOT ONE OTHER ARAB COUNTRY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS.
          This is how much they care for them.The world gives the Arab Palestinians 100s of millions of $$$ the Arab countries give no more than 5 million $$$ According to UNRWA’s Web site, the largest pledge received from an Arab country in 2006 was $1.5 million from Kuwait, with Saudi Arabia promising just $1.2 million. By contrast, Sweden pledged more than $41 million, the UK $27 million, and Denmark over $12 million. Other Arab states were even less generous, with oil-rich Bahrain offering $30,000 and Lebanon a mere $10,000. The US was the largest supporter of UNRWA’s activities, with more than $137 million of the group’s budgeted expenditures of $462 million coming from Washington. As of October 31, the latest date for which figures are available, UNRWA was expecting a funding shortfall in 2006 of $117 million, with total pledges amounting to $345 million. Nearly all of UNRWA’s operations are financed by voluntary contributions from governments and the European Union. In total, Western countries provide more than 95% of the agency’s finances

          .Lebanon is used as a battle field because HA and others like Syria do not care about Lebanon or the Lebanese. My subject is about LEBANON NOT PALESTINIANS……….

    2. Fadi81 Avatar
      Fadi81

      lol, if it wasnt for the US and co. Israel would have flattened Lebanon and HA entirely…how are HA gonna defend LEbanon? all they got is the ‘suicidal deterence tactic’ . they will gladly give up as many Lebanese lives it takes to kill a few Israelis. 40,000 rockets raining down on Israel will protect Lebanon?  get real, HA sends a single rocket and its lights out for Lebanon for another 15 years…

  10. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    the issue of arms has been brought up since god knows when…after the 2006 war a defense strategy was suppossed to be discussed…however what is the first thing march 14 did….they canceld conscription from the army??? that is their defense strategy immediately after a war we cancelled conscription yet our so called enemy israel has conscription for men and women….what is march 14 proposal? how do they think they can strengthen the army? the usa france britian are not going to arm our army in a way that defends us from israel? are they going to give us surface to air missiles to stop illegal israeli over flights? to have a defense strategy you must have a deterrence so as to make the enemy think twice about ever invading or entering our airspace illegally….so again i ask how does m14 expect to address this? its simple sit down form a unit within the army that is controlled by the army under their orders and then the weapons become under the control of the army…in affect their weapons will be controlled by the government….all m14 seem to do for the past 7 years is talk but lets be honest what have they done? all the west does is strngthen internal security forces so they can be used to keep the populations quiet….

    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      You know what I get sick of  people saying we need to protect Lebanon from Isreal. WHY the reason Isreal keeps eyes out on Lebanon and fly over and have come into our land, is because to start with the Plo fired rocket after rocket,in came Isreal, HA is in Lebanon for one reason the destruction of Isreal. If you was the Jewish Governmet what would you do….. Lebanon is in danger not from Isreal but because we have weapons pointed at Isreal from HA and Palestinian Arabs in Lebanon…..Do you think Isreal is going to sit and drink coffee…Take the weapons and threats away and the Jewish state will leave us alone………..The resistance is a gang and it runs Lebanon and holds it hostage, not Isreal….WHY DID ISREAL COME INTO LEBANON IN THE FIRST PLACE???????????

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        master09 if thats your opinion good luck i must say it amazes me that anyone would think that…but just remeber if it wasnt for lebanon resisting the palestinians would have been shovelled into southern lebanon which is what the original idea of israel invading was….if anyone thinks that lebanon should not have a detterrent and how then thats not acceptable for any country….

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          You still not answer the real ?? why Isreal first came into Lebanon and why it will again.? Its not my opinion it is the fact, history and facts show it. Read the last 40 years of conflict btw Lebanon and Isreal. Who cares about my Opinion… Prove me wrong. The Plo that came into Lebanon what country kicked them out first????   

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        “We must expel Arabs and take their places.” — David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

        “There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”– Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
        “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.”
        — Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha’aretz; quoted in Edward Said, ‘Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims’, Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.
        “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”– David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
        “If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”– David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
        David Ben GurionPrime Minister of Israel1949 – 1954,1955 – 1963″There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”– Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.
        “How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to.”– Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
        “Any one who speaks in favor of bringing the Arab refugees back must also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is interested in the state of Israel. It is better that things are stated clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen.” — Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner, October 1961
        “This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.”– Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971
        Golda MeirPrime Minister of Israel1969 – 1974  “We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!”– Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
        “[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat.”– Yitzhak Rabin (a “Prince of Peace” by Clinton’s standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen’s remarks to the Knesset’s foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)
        Yitzhak RabinPrime Minister of Israel1974 – 1977, 1992 – 1995  “[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs.”
        — Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the ‘Beasts,”‘ New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
        “The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized …. Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever.”– Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.
        Menachem BeginPrime Minister of Israel1977 – 1983  “The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations, for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country.”– Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.
        “The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It’s that simple.”– Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.
        “(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls.”– Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
        Yizhak ShamirPrime Minister of Israel1983 – 1984, 1986 – 1992  “Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories.”– Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
        Benjamin NetanyahuPrime Minister of Israel1996 – 1999″The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more”…. — Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time – August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
        “If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force….”– Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

        “I would have joined a terrorist organization.”– Ehud Barak’s response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha’aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.
        Ehud BarakPrime Minister of Israel1999 – 2001  “It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”
        — Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
        “Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don’t grab will go to them.”– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
        “Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.”
        — Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online Ariel SharonPrime Minister of Israel2001 – present   il leave this for you

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Nice collection of ‘Dialogues From The Past’. Anyone with a list from Hezzys ??

        2. master09 Avatar
          master09

          PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: “The Palestinian people does not exist”
          Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:

          The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. Good copy and paste just like mine great articles… but you have gone away from what I have been trying to say.1. If you walk in a room to make peace and your holding a gun, now would that be a good start….2. over tens of times the Jewish state has offered 94% of the land back to the PAlestinian Arabs.Jordan has offered non……   I wrote back to you why Isreal keeps coming into Lebanon and keeping a watch every day with jet flights and a fence on the border. We have Palestinian camps in Jordan, why is it that the Jews do not enter or in Syria why do they not bomb Syria or Jordan. That is because no body is firingrockets from there or stocking 50000 rockets and every day threaten the xestance of the Jewish state.Now I did not say the Palestinians should not have a home , but What I am saying is that HA is using the Palestinian situation to wage war in another country that does not belong to them and they do not care about Lebanon because it is an Iran war on someone else land…….The Arab Palestinians deserve a home like you or I but this has nothing to do with the Palestinians.Take the weapons away and take away the threats and sit on a table and talk even if it takes 10 years, but with guns it will take 10000 years…..But the Jews did offer 94% but the Arabs keep saying NO NO NO. With land swops….always no no no.So I am not talking about the Palestinians , I am talking about Iran using the Palestinian situation to say we can use someone elses country to keep weapons and when we want fire them where we want. HOW is that ok to have them as our resistance…HA who do not GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LEBANON OR THE PALESTINIANS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT AND BY THE WAY NOT ONE OTHER ARAB COUNTRY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS.This is how much they care for them.The world gives the Arab Palestinians 100s of millions of $$$ the Arab countries give no more than 5 million $$$ According to UNRWA’s Web site, the largest pledge received from an Arab country in 2006 was $1.5 million from Kuwait, with Saudi Arabia promising just $1.2 million. By contrast, Sweden pledged more than $41 million, the UK $27 million, and Denmark over $12 million. Other Arab states were even less generous, with oil-rich Bahrain offering $30,000 and Lebanon a mere $10,000. The US was the largest supporter of UNRWA’s activities, with more than $137 million of the group’s budgeted expenditures of $462 million coming from Washington. As of October 31, the latest date for which figures are available, UNRWA was expecting a funding shortfall in 2006 of $117 million, with total pledges amounting to $345 million. Nearly all of UNRWA’s operations are financed by voluntary contributions from governments and the European Union. In total, Western countries provide more than 95% of the agency’s finances.Lebanon is used as a battle field because HA and others like Syria do not care about Lebanon or the Lebanese. My subject is about LEBANON NOT PALESTINIANS……….

    2. Fadi81 Avatar
      Fadi81

      lol, if it wasnt for the US and co. Israel would have flattened Lebanon and HA entirely…how are HA gonna defend LEbanon? all they got is the ‘suicidal deterence tactic’ . they will gladly give up as many Lebanese lives it takes to kill a few Israelis. 40,000 rockets raining down on Israel will protect Lebanon?  get real, HA sends a single rocket and its lights out for Lebanon for another 15 years…

  11. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    poeple are also forgetting that m14 have been in dialogue with the other side on number of issues when the ’round table’ has been invented… before they got to the issue of HA arms..everything was nice and sweet……but have m8 applied everything it promised to do? of course it did not….palestinian arms outside and inside the camps is still not resolved, lebanese army having access to every inch of land in the south and biqa3 also still not resolved etc etc.

    so in m14’s point of view, this m8 side had made all the promises but did not deliver, [have the sayyed forgotten how he broke his promises after Doha agreement?} how can they trust m8? they also do not have to because they are the ones on the correct way not m8.

    ever since 2005, m14 members and especial Saad Harriri have been extendig his hands for dialogue with this sayyed of a hypocrite, but the sayyed is simply a lier and cannot be trusted.

    1. Fadi81 Avatar
      Fadi81

      agree, M8 represents Syrian and Iranian interests, not Lebanese…M14 has its issues no doubt, but its definetely a step in the right direction…hell who the f wants to live in a country that would look anything like the diaya? lets be honest here, these are terrorists that are in control of our country.

      1. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        if you can read arabic, there is today’s article by Mohammad Salam on Now lebanon…. read it and the you’ll know what country lebanon has become under this mafia… it depressed me:)

  12. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    poeple are also forgetting that m14 have been in dialogue with the other side on number of issues when the ’round table’ has been invented… before they got to the issue of HA arms..everything was nice and sweet……but have m8 applied everything it promised to do? of course it did not….palestinian arms outside and inside the camps is still not resolved, lebanese army having access to every inch of land in the south and biqa3 also still not resolved etc etc.

    so in m14’s point of view, this m8 side had made all the promises but did not deliver, [have the sayyed forgotten how he broke his promises after Doha agreement?} how can they trust m8? they also do not have to because they are the ones on the correct way not m8.

    ever since 2005, m14 members and especial Saad Harriri have been extendig his hands for dialogue with this sayyed of a hypocrite, but the sayyed is simply a lier and cannot be trusted.

    1. Fadi81 Avatar
      Fadi81

      agree, M8 represents Syrian and Iranian interests, not Lebanese…M14 has its issues no doubt, but its definetely a step in the right direction…hell who the f wants to live in a country that would look anything like the diaya? lets be honest here, these are terrorists that are in control of our country.

      1. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        if you can read arabic, there is today’s article by Mohammad Salam on Now lebanon…. read it and the you’ll know what country lebanon has become under this mafia… it depressed me:)

  13. lebanesesam Avatar
    lebanesesam

    I read this somewhere and I think it describes what I have to say exactly – Credit goes to the guy who wrote it and some to my aditions 🙂

    Nasralla, You know nothing about dialog you man whore. Spare us your lies, we are not stupid or dead yet. Your government walked out of the then government, closed parliament for 18 months, occupied downtown and destroyed people’s livelihoods, invaded beirut and called it a divine day, and later demanded 1/3 veto power in government. Now, you call this co-operation on all issues? This is called political prostitution at its best!!!”

    1. dabshaleem Avatar
      dabshaleem

      yu salafite or zioniste mr

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Almost forgot that line Dab ?? 😉

        1. lebanesesam Avatar
          lebanesesam

          Reply to both you and Dab, I am true f**ing lebanese who left lebanon when I was 20 becasue of people like you and him. Everytime someone says something or post their opinion about ZaberAllah and Kizballa, you say he is salafite or zionist – but it’s ok, that’s how you are programmed and brain washed from hearing Zabrallah talking from his dungeon. And I almost forgot to tell you, I am a muslim , just like you ya ayre. I just learned to move on from all the bullshit I lived through all my life, since 1973 all the way to end of 1999. So before you say I am a zionist or salafite or whatever, go read a book and educate yourself ya Jahel

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          To lebanesesam …. ???  Me ??

    2. dabshaleem Avatar
      dabshaleem

      he wtih big ——>

    3. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Two things: First 5thDrawer may be a drawer but he is no salafi lol
      Second can you please tell me that this is not a thong with the Lebanese flag on it as your avatar…
      Dab is here to entertain us all… Please do not get mad at him. 😉

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Good thing the thong didn’t come out of my drawer Hannibal. 🙂 But I don’t use one. 😉
        Although a 5th of Scotch begins to sound good again … 😉

    4. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Two things: First 5thDrawer may be a drawer but he is no salafi lol
      Second can you please tell me that this is not a thong with the Lebanese flag on it as your avatar…
      Dab is here to entertain us all… Please do not get mad at him. 😉

  14. lebanesesam Avatar
    lebanesesam

    I read this somewhere and I think it describes what I have to say exactly – Credit goes to the guy who wrote it and some to my aditions 🙂

    Nasralla, You know nothing about dialog you man whore. Spare us your lies, we are not stupid or dead yet. Your government walked out of the then government, closed parliament for 18 months, occupied downtown and destroyed people’s livelihoods, invaded beirut and called it a divine day, and later demanded 1/3 veto power in government. Now, you call this co-operation on all issues? This is called political prostitution at its best!!!”

    1. dabshaleem Avatar
      dabshaleem

      yu salafite or zioniste mr

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Almost forgot that line Dab ? 😉

        1. lebanesesam Avatar
          lebanesesam

          Reply to both you and Dab, I am true f**ing lebanese who left lebanon when I was 20 becasue of people like you and him. Everytime someone says something or post their opinion about ZaberAllah and Kizballa, you say he is salafite or zionist – but it’s ok, that’s how you are programmed and brain washed from hearing Zabrallah talking from his dungeon. And I almost forgot to tell you, I am a muslim , just like you ya ayre. I just learned to move on from all the bullshit I lived through all my life, since 1973 all the way to end of 1999. So before you say I am a zionist or salafite or whatever, go read a book and educate yourself ya Jahel

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          To lebanesesam …. ???  Me ??

    2. dabshaleem Avatar
      dabshaleem

      he wtih big ——>

    3. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Two things: First 5thDrawer may be a drawer but he is no salafi lol
      Second can you please tell me that this is not a thong with the Lebanese flag on it as your avatar…
      Dab is here to entertain us all… Please do not get mad at him. 😉

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Good thing the thong didn’t come out of my drawer Hannibal. 🙂 But I don’t use one. 😉
        Although a 5th of Scotch begins to sound good again … 😉

  15. Joey Avatar
    Joey

    lies lies and more lies 3 words shut up twat

  16. Joey Avatar
    Joey

    lies lies and more lies 3 words shut up twat

  17. C S Avatar
    C S

    Hassan the asshole Nasrallah is starting to sweat….when he starts talking like this, you KNOW he KNOWS he is in big trouble. Probably his Iranian masters will cut the strings on this puppet, once and for all. For SURE he is sleeping with one eye open…maybe both eyes..that’s ok…when he goes, he will get one in each eye anyway, open or closed…

  18. C S Avatar
    C S

    Hassan the asshole Nasrallah is starting to sweat….when he starts talking like this, you KNOW he KNOWS he is in big trouble. Probably his Iranian masters will cut the strings on this puppet, once and for all. For SURE he is sleeping with one eye open…maybe both eyes..that’s ok…when he goes, he will get one in each eye anyway, open or closed…

  19. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

     best defence strategy is make peace with your enemies and stop pissing lives and resources accomplishing NOTHING.
    untill god gets rid of all of us as he should , you wont get rid of israel and israel wont get rid of you, the only thing that will keep happening is the the body count will get higher and the weapons brokers get richer you damn fools

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right you are, Geo. What do they have now … 100 generations have been waiting for that glorious ‘end day’, but why don’t they try making it good before then .?? We will never have that answer.

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right you are, Geo. What do they have now … 100 generations have been waiting for that glorious ‘end day’, but why don’t they try making it good before then .?? We will never have that answer.

  20. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

     best defence strategy is make peace with your enemies and stop pissing lives and resources accomplishing NOTHING.
    untill god gets rid of all of us as he should , you wont get rid of israel and israel wont get rid of you, the only thing that will keep happening is the the body count will get higher and the weapons brokers get richer you damn fools

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right you are, Geo. What do they have now … 100 generations have been waiting for that glorious ‘end day’, but why don’t they try making it good before then .?? We will never have that answer.

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