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Shiite council objects to closing statement of spiritual summit

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The Higher Islamic Shiite Council’s objected against the closing statement of Christian-Islamic summit that was held at Bkiri on Thursday .

The objection was against articles 6 and 7 of the statement

Article 6 stated :… “the Lebanese state has the right to liberate the occupied territory.”…

The Higher Islamic Shiite Council said the article should have read:

“Lebanon, meaning its people, army, and Resistance, has the right to liberate its land”

Article 7 described the conflict with Israeli as “Palestinian-Israeli” conflict while The Higher Islamic Shiite Council said the conflict should be described as “Arab-Israeli” conflict

According to observers the whole issue is strictly political . The Higher Islamic Shiite Council answers to Hezbollah , which wants to make sure that both articles legitimize its arms .

Article 6 as it stands leaves out Hezbollah’s role in defending the state and article 7 leaves it up to the Palestinians to resolve their conflict with Israel.

Al-Mustaqbal newspaper reported on Friday that the Higher Islamic Shia Council’s statement regarding the Christian-Muslim summit held in Bkirki “does not reflect the atmosphere of the meeting since no one voiced any reservations about the summit’s statement when it was being discussed, ” during the summit

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83 responses to “Shiite council objects to closing statement of spiritual summit”

  1. maggie_wahib Avatar
    maggie_wahib

    Do you mean the Waliat AL Faqih Council Objected to the closing statements of the Spiritual Summit lol.
    Yah nowdays they use more reformed name.. If Syria overrun the protesters and they win another fake war against Israel, they will definitely change their name to waliat al faqih and Aoun will be in charge of it for sure..

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      you are probably right except for one thing…

      in wilayat al faqeeh, no one in charge except the murshed himself…unless aoun would change into a shiite muslim, he has no chance whatsoever.

      i really think that Aoun has his own agenda while Hizbollah have its own different agenda, but atm their interest in being allies while in the future they will be foes for sure.

      and since they will be foes, hizbollah has weapons and aoun can accumulate weapons and with his past…the future of lebanon does not look good at all for lebanon. 

      1. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        Aoun and HA will never be foes. They both have one interest, strong and independent Lebanon no matter all the accusations.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          i high;y doubt that.

      2. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        Aoun and HA will never be foes. They both have one interest, strong and independent Lebanon no matter all the accusations.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          i high;y doubt that.

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Do you mean the Waliat AL Faqih Council Objected to the closing statements of the Spiritual Summit lol.
    Yah nowdays they use more reformed name.. If Syria overrun the protesters and they win another fake war against Israel, they will definitely change their name to waliat al faqih and Aoun will be in charge of it for sure..

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      you are probably right except for one thing…

      in wilayat al faqeeh, no one in charge except the murshed himself…unless aoun would change into a shiite muslim, he has no chance whatsoever.

      i really think that Aoun has his own agenda while Hizbollah have its own different agenda, but atm their interest in being allies while in the future they will be foes for sure.

      and since they will be foes, hizbollah has weapons and aoun can accumulate weapons and with his past…the future of lebanon does not look good at all for lebanon. 

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Aoun and HA will never be foes. They both have one interest, strong and independent Lebanon no matter all the accusations.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          i high;y doubt that.

  3. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    When will Lebanese people get  fed  up,and  show  their  outrage at all religious/sectarian institutions for  sticking their  noses in politics, when they  are  supposed to be guiding  the “faithfuls” to become better  human  beings?
    Please  put  your energy where it is supposed to,which  is  your  Church ,your Mosques, your hospitals, your charities,and the  needy instead of living  like  kings.
     Haven’t  Lebanese had enough  of  Bkirki, Da- El-Eftaa, the Shiit council ,and the rest of  sectarian institutions ? Until that day comes, Lebanon will always be a sectarian  mess without any stability , promising future, or meaninful political reforms.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

       Arak … best spirit going …

    2. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      this day will come when the lebanese themselves start believing in seperating state and religion…atm they have no belief in a state outside their religious sect at all…unfortunately. 

      1. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

        I agree Antar. I think many Lebanese are afraid of leaving the sectarian system because it might lead to another authoritarian regime and the loss of the liberties we enjoy today. I think it’s best for the country to take that chance and slowly transition to a secular democracy while keeping our religious values and holidays.

    3. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      this day will come when the lebanese themselves start believing in seperating state and religion…atm they have no belief in a state outside their religious sect at all…unfortunately. 

  4. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

     When will Lebanese people get  fed  up,and  show  their  outrage at all religious/sectarian institutions sticking their  nose in politics, when they  are  supposed to be guiding  the “faithfuls” to become better  human  beings? Please  put  your energy into what  you are supposed  to do,which  is  your  Church and  Mosque,and the  needy,and stop living  like  kings. Haven’t  Lebanese have  enough  of  Bkirki, Da- El-Eftaa, the Shiit council ,and the  all other  sectarian  institutions ? Until that day comes, Lebanon will always be a sectarian  mess.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

       Arak … best spirit going …

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      this day will come when the lebanese themselves start believing in seperating state and religion…atm they have no belief in a state outside their religious sect at all…unfortunately. 

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        I agree Antar. I think many Lebanese are afraid of leaving the sectarian system because it might lead to another authoritarian regime and the loss of the liberties we enjoy today. I think it’s best for the country to take that chance and slowly transition to a secular democracy while keeping our religious values and holidays.

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      this day will come when the lebanese themselves start believing in seperating state and religion…atm they have no belief in a state outside their religious sect at all…unfortunately. 

    4. Avatar
      Anonymous

      this day will come when the lebanese themselves start believing in seperating state and religion…atm they have no belief in a state outside their religious sect at all…unfortunately. 

  5. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

     When will Lebanese people get  fed  up,and  show  their  outrage at all religious/sectarian institutions sticking their  nose in politics, when they  are  supposed to be guiding  the “faithfuls” to become better  human  beings? Please  put  your energy into what  you are supposed  to do,which  is  your  Church and  Mosque,and the  needy,and stop living  like  kings. Haven’t  Lebanese have  enough  of  Bkirki, Da- El-Eftaa, the Shiit council ,and the  all other  sectarian  institutions ? Until that day comes, Lebanon will always be a sectarian  mess.

  6. Crossed Avatar
    Crossed

    It should be Arab-Israeli not Palestinian-Israeli. We are all Arabs. We all pray to the God of Abraham. The situation of the Palestinians is a shame on all Arabs and all peoples of the book. I am not calling for Lebanon to fight the war on behalf of the Palestinians, but united we can exert pressure on Israel, and show the Palestinians that we stand with them and support them. Division is the first step to the tried and tested method of expansion called divide and conquer.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      I am Lebanese NOT Arab… AND I do not pray to the God of Abraham.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        It’s Ok Hannibal, You don’t have to admit to them that you follow MY PROPHECY.LOL

      2. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

        Right, but Lebanese are Arabs. I know we have different roots but today we are Arabs and we still speak Arabic, not Lebanese. I’m not going to debate this with you. I’m speaking about the majority of Lebanese who do consider themselves Arabs and follow a book.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          I speak French and English and that does not make me neither French NOR English… My ancestors dwelled those lands for thousands of years YET my DNA testing shows I am NOT Arab but Caucasian European. ONLY 27% of Lebanese are J1 Arabs according to DNA studies and the majority of them are Sunnis. The rest are Persians, Caucasians and Middle Eastern Phoenician Aramaic J2 haplotypes. You cannot debate the validity of scientific evidence. It is what it is. 

        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          I speak French and English and that does not make me neither French NOR English… My ancestors dwelled those lands for thousands of years YET my DNA testing shows I am NOT Arab but Caucasian European. ONLY 27% of Lebanese are J1 Arabs according to DNA studies and the majority of them are Sunnis. The rest are Persians, Caucasians and Middle Eastern Phoenician Aramaic J2 haplotypes. You cannot debate the validity of scientific evidence. It is what it is. 

      3. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

        I know this, and I’m a biology major. Im saying at face value and by association, the majority consider themselves to be Arabs and speak Arabic. I was never talking about you only. My argument is that we can build a much better country if we remain united internally and with our Arab neighbors.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          What will unite us is our culture… It won’t be race nor religion. I am not anti-Arab but I am against labeling the Fertile Crescent Arabic.

      4. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        if you do not like yourself to be an Arab then fine that’s your right but plz accept my right to believe that i speak arabic therefore i am an arab and please please do not look down on me because of that right.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Where did I ever look down on you being Arab? if you are good for you… ONLY a genetic test can determine your race. Until then I cannot tell if you were and if you are a J1 Arab you are still a Lebanese but I am Lebanese non-Arab as are many others like Armenians etc… I speak English and I assure you I am no Englishman… I am as Lebanese as it can get and to prove it I rarely stop on red lights, I eat 7ommos and tabbouli wu bfaqqe bezer… 😛 lol

          1. antar2011 Avatar
            antar2011

            hahaha i betcha also while you drive you pump up the music so loud so the pple in the next street can hear the latest najwa karam or fares karam song…wish they could understand anything he/she is singing about!.

            i used the ‘me” ir “i’ terms in my previous post in a figurative sense rather then a personal one.

          2. antar2011 Avatar
            antar2011

            hahaha i betcha also while you drive you pump up the music so loud so the pple in the next street can hear the latest najwa karam or fares karam song…wish they could understand anything he/she is singing about!.

            i used the ‘me” ir “i’ terms in my previous post in a figurative sense rather then a personal one.

    2. maggie_wahib Avatar
      maggie_wahib

      Crossed and what did you do guys when the PLO attacked the Christians and tried in vain to take over Lebanon?
      you sided with them.. I guess we’re not arab to you.. Enough said..

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Better yet, when the Shia attacked the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayamaat… Were they not Arabs at that particular time? Everybody uses the Palestinian cause to keep the upheaval going… Lame!

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Better yet, when the Shia attacked the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayamaat… Were they not Arabs at that particular time? Everybody uses the Palestinian cause to keep the upheaval going… Lame!

      3. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        Crossed——————that’s exactly what i am talking about…….

        maggie……………………this happened donkeys of yrs ago…shouldn’t we turn a new page in order to progress in the future?

      4. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

         You actually didn’t say anything. Who cares about that? That was then, this is now. The Palestinians of today have nothing to do with that. Did you even read my comment? I said we shouldnt fight the war, but we should show our support as one people. I would much rather live in a country that shows its objections to occupation, terrorism, and land grab.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Then as you say we should stand with our Syrian brothers to topple the unjust regime… Do you agree?

          1. Crossed Avatar
            Crossed

            Yes of course. It would be very hypocritical of me to support a Lebanese democracy and not a Syrian one. I am all for establishing democracy anywhere in the Middle East. 

        2. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          Let you and I unite first, build our beautiful country, put our country and culture first before our race and religion, respect each others thoughts and decisions at a personal and national level, then, and only then we can move forwards and unite with or support the scum that surround us.

      5. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

         You actually didn’t say anything. Who cares about that? That was then, this is now. The Palestinians of today have nothing to do with that. Did you even read my comment? I said we shouldnt fight the war, but we should show our support as one people. I would much rather live in a country that shows its objections to occupation, terrorism, and land grab.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Then as you say we should stand with our Syrian brothers to topple the unjust regime… Do you agree?

        2. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          Let you and I unite first, build our beautiful country, put our country and culture first before our race and religion, respect each others thoughts and decisions at a personal and national level, then, and only then we can move forwards and unite with or support the scum that surround us.

    3. Beiruti Avatar
      Beiruti

      Arab is a language not a race you retard. Theres are multiple countries that speak English but they do not call themselves English. The Palestinians ruined our country they are the roots of the shit of our country. It is a Palestinian-Arab conflict, its funny how the Palestinians only faught Israel from foreign countries soil (Lebanon and Jordan).If the Palestinians wanted their land back they should have fought from the beginning till they got it back. Lebanese people come from Phonecian descent but we speak Arabic because were located in the Middle East. The people of Spain and South America are not related but they speak the same language. South Americans come from tribes, Spanish people are from Europe but they speak the same language. Palestine is no longer our business, why just cause they’re “Arab” we’re supposed to care? Look what the Palestinian dogs did to our country in 2007, we generously give the Palestinians our land, and what do they do? Fight the people that gave them the land in the first place.

      1. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

        hahaha “Arab is a language not a race you retard”.

        I suggest you search Arab and Arabic on wikipedia. It seems you are a little confused.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        BeirutiIt is illogical to condemn an entire nation into one fate if their leadership committed the crime of attacking the Lebanese who hosted them. It is like saying ALL Shiites are Hezbollah, and they are not, or all Orthodox Christians are SSNPs which is unfair when we find a considerable number of them in the ranks of the Lebanese Forces.Crossed is absolutely right, Arab is a race, they carry the J1 haplotypes and make up about 27% of the Lebanese population (90% of the Arabic Peninsula). The Phoenicians carry the J2 haplotype and make up an equal number of about 30% of Lebanon and the funny part is that it is found equally amongst the entire sectarian line usually amongst the people who live near the sea shore (Tyre, Sidon, Byblos), so no one sect can claim this ancestry for themselves. The third dominant haplotype R1B is European and make up about 30% of the population and spread across the sectarian line with a slight dominance amongst Christians. Please note here that carrying the R1B does not say you belong solely to a Crusader ancestry despite what the media likes to say. Europeans joined the fertile crescent in waves, first with the Sea People who joined hands with the local Phoenician tribes to constitute the Phoenician Empire (500 years of peak maritime supremacy, 1200 BC) who incidentally taught the locals how to navigate the seas. The second wave came in with Alexander the great and the Hellenic invasion to be followed by Romans, then Byzantine, then Crusaders and at the most recent occupation, a Turkish Ottoman one leaving behind European Sunnis. There is a minority, Persian, African (Egyptian, Ethiopian), and others.That being said, If you would entertain us, and that goes to all those posters here, go and test your DNA. In Lebanon, it is done for free by Dr. Pierre Zalloua’s Lab. In the U.S. and Europe you can send your mouth swab to National Geographic genographic project for $99 and get tested. You will receive a detailed report about your ancestry and put this debate to rest. Please do report back if you do go for it. We can compare notes.Lebanon is not Phoenician, not Arab, nor European or Persian… Modern Lebanon is LEBANON… An amalgam of history beautifully coalesced into ONE nation rich in culture and history ruled by dumb and dumber…

    4. Avnerouchlemanouch Avatar
      Avnerouchlemanouch

      And of coarse the good old idea of negotiating Crossed you fail to mention….Your so called unity is only used when it comes to the elimination of Israel and the well being of the different peoples in the ME which are not all Arab is not and never will be on your agenda.That’s why I keep on telling you that you are full of lies .

      1. Crossed Avatar
        Crossed

        I actually have no idea as to what you’re trying to say. But I think you’re saying I only support unity if it means eliminating Israel… In that case no. I have never said that once. I said I support unity for internal state development and exernal pressure on Israel to comply with International Law. I did not say I want to eliminate it, but I did say it is a terror state and that I fully believe.

  7. Crossed Avatar
    Crossed

    It should be Arab-Israeli not Palestinian-Israeli. We are all Arabs. We all pray to the God of Abraham. The situation of the Palestinians is a shame on all Arabs and all peoples of the book. I am not calling for Lebanon to fight the war on behalf of the Palestinians, but united we can exert pressure on Israel, and show the Palestinians that we stand with them and support them. Division is the first step to the tried and tested method of expansion called divide and conquer.

    1. Beiruti Avatar
      Beiruti

      Arab is a language not a race you retard. Theres are multiple countries that speak English but they do not call themselves English. The Palestinians ruined our country they are the roots of the shit of our country. It is a Palestinian-Arab conflict, its funny how the Palestinians only faught Israel from foreign countries soil (Lebanon and Jordan).If the Palestinians wanted their land back they should have fought from the beginning till they got it back. Lebanese people come from Phonecian descent but we speak Arabic because were located in the Middle East. The people of Spain and South America are not related but they speak the same language. South Americans come from tribes, Spanish people are from Europe but they speak the same language. Palestine is no longer our business, why just cause they’re “Arab” we’re supposed to care? Look what the Palestinian dogs did to our country in 2007, we generously give the Palestinians our land, and what do they do? Fight the people that gave them the land in the first place.

    2. Avnerouchlemanouch Avatar
      Avnerouchlemanouch

      And of coarse the good old idea of negotiating Crossed you fail to mention….Your so called unity is only used when it comes to the elimination of Israel and the well being of the different peoples in the ME which are not all Arab is not and never will be on your agenda.That’s why I keep on telling you that you are full of lies .

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    It should be Arab-Israeli not Palestinian-Israeli. We are all Arabs. We all pray to the God of Abraham. The situation of the Palestinians is a shame on all Arabs and all peoples of the book. I am not calling for Lebanon to fight to the war on behalf of the Palestinians, but united we can exert pressure on Israel, and show the Palestinians that we stand with them and support them. Division is the first step to the tried and tested method of expansion called divde and conquer.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      I am Lebanese NOT Arab… AND I do not pray to the God of Abraham.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        It’s Ok Hannibal, You don’t have to admit to them that you follow my prophecy.lol .lol 

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Right, but Lebanese are Arabs. I know we have different roots but today we are Arabs and we still speak Arabic, not Lebanese. I’m not going to debate this with you. I’m speaking about the majority of Lebanese who do consider themselves Arabs and follow a book.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          I speak French and English and that does not make me neither French NOR English… My ancestors dwelled those lands for thousands of years YET my DNA testing shows I am NOT Arab but Caucasian European. ONLY 27% of Lebanese are J1 Arabs according to DNA studies and the majority of them are Sunnis. The rest are Persians, Caucasians and Middle Eastern Phoenician Aramaic J2 haplotypes. You cannot debate the validity of scientific evidence. It is what it is. 

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        I know this, and I’m a biology major. Im saying at face value and by association, the majority consider themselves to be Arabs and speak Arabic. I was never talking about you only. My argument is that we can build a much better country if we remain united internally and with our Arab neighbors.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          What will unite us is our culture… It won’t be race nor religion. I am not anti-Arab but I am against labeling the Fertile Crescent Arabic.

      4. Avatar
        Anonymous

        if you do not like yourself to be an Arab then fine that’s your right but plz accept my right to believe that i speak arabic therefore i am an arab and please please do not look down on me because of that right.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Where did I ever look down on you being Arab? if you are good for you… ONLY a genetic test can determine your race. Until then I cannot tell if you were and if you are a J1 Arab you are still a Lebanese but I am Lebanese non-Arab as are many others like Armenians etc… I speak English and I assure you I am no Englishman… I am as Lebanese as it can get and to prove it I rarely stop on red lights, I eat 7ommos and tabbouli wu bfaqqe bezer… 😛 lol

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            hahaha i betcha also while you drive you pump up the music so loud so the pple in the next street can hear the latest najwa karam or fares karam song…wish they could understand anything he/she is singing about!.

            i used the ‘me” ir “i’ terms in my previous post in a figurative sense rather then a personal one.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Crossed and what did you do guys when the PLO attacked the Christians and tried in vain to take over Lebanon?
      you sided with them.. I guess we’re not arab to you.. Enough said..

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Better yet, when the Shia attacked the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayamaat… Were they not Arabs at that particular time? Everybody uses the Palestinian cause to keep the upheaval going… Lame!

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Better yet, when the Shia attacked the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayamaat… Were they not Arabs at that particular time? Everybody uses the Palestinian cause to keep the upheaval going… Lame!

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Crossed——————that’s exactly what i am talking about…….

        maggie……………………this happened donkeys of yrs ago…shouldn’t we turn a new page in order to progress in the future?

      4. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Crossed——————that’s exactly what i am talking about…….

        maggie……………………this happened donkeys of yrs ago…shouldn’t we turn a new page in order to progress in the future?

      5. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Crossed——————that’s exactly what i am talking about…….

        maggie……………………this happened donkeys of yrs ago…shouldn’t we turn a new page in order to progress in the future?

      6. Avatar
        Anonymous

         You actually didn’t say anything. Who cares about that? That was then, this is now. The Palestinians of today have nothing to do with that. Did you even read my comment? I said we shouldnt fight the war, but we should show our support as one people. I would much rather live in a country that shows its objections to occupation, terrorism, and land grab.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Then as you say we should stand with our Syrian brothers to topple the unjust regime… Do you agree?

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            Yes of course. It would be very hypocritical of me to support a Lebanese democracy and not a Syrian one. I am all for establishing democracy anywhere in the Middle East. 

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Let you and I unite first, build our beautiful country, put our country and culture first before our race and religion, respect each others thoughts and decisions at a personal and national level, then, and only then we can move forwards and unite with or support the scum that surround us.

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Arab is a language not a race you retard. Theres are multiple countries that speak English but they do not call themselves English. The Palestinians ruined our country they are the roots of the shit of our country. It is a Palestinian-Arab conflict, its funny how the Palestinians only faught Israel from foreign countries soil (Lebanon and Jordan).If the Palestinians wanted their land back they should have fought from the beginning till they got it back. Lebanese people come from Phonecian descent but we speak Arabic because were located in the Middle East. The people of Spain and South America are not related but they speak the same language. South Americans come from tribes, Spanish people are from Europe but they speak the same language. Palestine is no longer our business, why just cause they’re “Arab” we’re supposed to care? Look what the Palestinian dogs did to our country in 2007, we generously give the Palestinians our land, and what do they do? Fight the people that gave them the land in the first place.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        hahaha “Arab is a language not a race you retard”.

        I suggest you search Arab and Arabic on wikipedia. It seems you are a little confused.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        BeirutiIt is illogical to condemn an entire nation into one fate if their leadership committed the crime of attacking the Lebanese who hosted them. It is like saying ALL Shiites are Hezbollah, and they are not, or all Orthodox Christians are SSNPs which is unfair when we find a considerable number of them in the ranks of the Lebanese Forces.Crossed is absolutely right, Arab is a race, they carry the J1 haplotypes and make up about 27% of the Lebanese population (90% of the Arabic Peninsula). The Phoenicians carry the J2 haplotype and make up an equal number of about 30% of Lebanon and the funny part is that it is found equally amongst the entire sectarian line usually amongst the people who live near the sea shore (Tyre, Sidon, Byblos), so no one sect can claim this ancestry for themselves. The third dominant haplotype R1B is European and make up about 30% of the population and spread across the sectarian line with a slight dominance amongst Christians. Please note here that carrying the R1B does not say you belong solely to a Crusader ancestry despite what the media likes to say. Europeans joined the fertile crescent in waves, first with the Sea People who joined hands with the local Phoenician tribes to constitute the Phoenician Empire (500 years of peak maritime supremacy, 1200 BC) who incidentally taught the locals how to navigate the seas. The second wave came in with Alexander the great and the Hellenic invasion to be followed by Romans, then Byzantine, then Crusaders and at the most recent occupation, a Turkish Ottoman one leaving behind European Sunnis. There is a minority, Persian, African (Egyptian, Ethiopian), and others.That being said, If you would entertain us, and that goes to all those posters here, go and test your DNA. In Lebanon, it is done for free by Dr. Pierre Zalloua’s Lab. In the U.S. and Europe you can send your mouth swab to National Geographic genographic project for $99 and get tested. You will receive a detailed report about your ancestry and put this debate to rest. Please do report back if you do go for it. We can compare notes.Lebanon is not Phoenician, not Arab, nor European or Persian… Modern Lebanon is LEBANON… An amalgam of history beautifully coalesced into ONE nation rich in culture and history ruled by dumb and dumber…

    4. Avatar
      Anonymous

      And of coarse the good old idea of negotiating Crossed you fail to mention….Your so called unity is only used when it comes to the elimination of Israel and the well being of the different peoples in the ME which are not all Arab is not and never will be on your agenda.That’s why I keep on telling you that you are full of lies .

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        I actually have no idea as to what you’re trying to say. But I think you’re saying I only support unity if it means eliminating Israel… In that case no. I have never said that once. I said I support unity for internal state development and exernal pressure on Israel to comply with International Law. I did not say I want to eliminate it, but I did say it is a terror state and that I fully believe.

  9. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    all lebanese from different sects and different affiliation need to trust each other and stop thinking of the past.

    when we really decide we can do that then maybe we can talk about creating a good future for our country..

    other then that……3abass. forget it!

  10. Avatar
    Anonymous

    all lebanese from different sects and different affiliation need to trust each other and stop thinking of the past.

    when we really decide we can do that then maybe we can talk about creating a good future for our country..

    other then that……3abass. forget it!

  11. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    the religous members should not get involved in poltics
    there job should be be in the church or the mosque or the any other instituation ;
    there job should be to pray  for the people and serve the community with social  problems ;
    they have the right to vote  because lebanon is democracy but they do,nt have the right to make political decisions
    they should only teach lebaneese people how to help eachothers and tolerate their differences  by dialogue and peacefull means.

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    Anonymous

    the religous members should not get involved in poltics
    there job should be be in the church or the mosque or the any other instituation ;
    there job should be to pray  for the people and serve the community with social  problems ;
    they have the right to vote  because lebanon is democracy but they do,nt have the right to make political decisions
    they should only teach lebaneese people how to help eachothers and tolerate their differences  by dialogue and peacefull means.

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    sklep

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