Lebanon DM tells U.S. congressman: Keep your money

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Lebanon’s Defense Minister Elias al-Murr told reporters on Wednesday any party that wished to help the military had to do so without any conditions.

“That person who said in Congress, ‘I will stop aid to the army’, he is free to do so . Murr added: Anyone who wants to help the army without restrictions or conditions, is welcome.”

“This person wants to make military aid conditional on not protecting (Lebanon’s) land, people and borders against Israeli aggression. Let them keep their money or give it to Israel. We will confront (Israel) with the capabilities we own.”

His statement comes after US House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman, D-Calif., announced his decision Monday to withhold $100 million in military assistance to Lebanon out of concerns regarding Hezbollah, citing recent border skirmishes between Israeli and Lebanese forces and heightened rhetoric from Hezbollah.

Berman , considered a key Jewish congressman and a strong supporter of Israel,    took the decision after Israel and its lobbies in the US complained to the United States and France about funds to the Lebanese army following the skirmish that killed a senior Israeli officer, two Lebanese soldiers and a Lebanese journalist in the worst border violence since a 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war.

“Until we know more about this incident and the nature of Hezbollah influence on the Lebanese armed forces — and can assure that the LAF is a responsible actor — I cannot in good conscience allow the United States to continue sending weapons to Lebanon,” Berman said in a statement.

Berman’s decision came on the same day that Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah said he had evidence to suggest Israel was behind the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said it was a mistake to arm Lebanon’s military with advanced weapons because they were being used by the army against Israel. Washington said it was not aware that any U.S. equipment was used in the clash.

Lebanese President Michel Suleiman launched an initiative to build up the army, prompting Iran, which supports Lebanon’s militant Shi’ite group Hezbollah, to offer support.

The U.S. State Department said the statement by Iran, which is likely to alarm Western countries who fear Tehran is increasing its influence near Israel’s northern border, demonstrated the need for continued U.S. support to Lebanon.

The United States has provided more than $720 million in assistance to the army since 2006 to Lebanon.

A senior U.S. official said the administration was confident the freeze on assistance would be temporary.

Israel said a Lebanese army sniper opened fire last week on two Israeli officers as they watched a tree-pruning operation on the Israeli side of a security fence below the U.N. “Blue Line.”

The Lebanese army said it first fired warning shots ( as they watched a the tree-pruning operation by the Israeli soldiers) , then Israelis fired at their soldiers. Israeli artillery and tank fire followed.

Hezbollah did not take part in the clash, but has warned it would intervene if Israel attacked the army again.

Israeli army claimed that a Lebanese army unit sympathetic to Hezbollah had launched the attack, but Murr confirmed today that the army fired at Israel based on “an order from the army chief.”

Israeli and Jewish lobbies

Americans for Peace Now (APN) reported last week that pressure appeared to be mounting on Congress to punish Lebanon… It also appeared that groundwork was being laid in advance to ensure US support for Israel in the case of another Lebanon war.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC ) had reportedly circulated a memo arguing that the Lebanese Army is cooperating with Hezbollah, and stating that unless this stops, “Washington must reevaluate its relationship with the Beirut government and the Lebanese Armed Forces–the recipient of significant American military aid.”

Similarly, The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) had reportedly circulated a memo implicitly bashing the Obama Administration for providing military aid to Lebanon (something that the Bush Administration did as well). The memo also appeared to explicitly call for Israel to launch a new war in Lebanon and took a shot at the Obama Administration in advance for being insufficiently supportive of such an action.

Is US selling Lebanon to Iran?

According to analysts the action taken by the US lawmaker could result in the complete takeover of Lebanon by Iran. The analysts think that Iran has anxiously been awaiting this golden  opportunity  to bypass Syria in its dealing with Hezbollah.

The analysts are saying that up until now all the weapons  have been coming via Syria but once Iran starts arming the Lebanese army the shipments will be coming directly to Lebanon.

Speaker Nabih Berri ( a key ally of Hezbollah ) who met the Lebanese president this morning expressed readiness to provide the army with  weapons in response to president Suleiman’s appeal to arm the Lebanese military.

“The Lebanese army has the right to obtain weapons from anywhere in the world,” he said in remarks published Wednesday by the Beirut dailies An-Nahar and As-Safir.

“I’m ready to provide weapons to the army, even from underground,” Berri added.

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137 responses to “Lebanon DM tells U.S. congressman: Keep your money”

  1. murr is reacting to appease h/a. It appears (so far) that the army is a proxy for h/a. Until the discovery finds otherwise, I am pretty sure the US will reverse its decision. The US nor Israel wants an iran on israel’s borders, that is suicidal. Can you imagine akhmed the terrorist in the flesh (A take from Jeff Dunham’s ventriloquist comedy) running Lebanon!!!! Lebanon’s politician’s are appeasing the shiites because they are afraid of their arms. Without h/a arms, we would not have the strife that exist in Lebanon. Every day that goes by with the status quo, is another day lost for freedom,peace and co-existence in Lebanon. Now most Lebanese are agog with the booming real estate transactions and the spike in tourism. Yet, I suggest that they should brace themselves for another disaster that is going to take place, due to the behavior of h/a , syria and iran. Wake up my Lebanese brothers and sisters. Our politicians cannot have it both ways–How many times murr exchanged visits with the US representatives. Like most Lebanese politicians, he flip-flops on so many issues just like his father. What a shame a bunch of crooks running the country. Need to say anymore.

  2. murr is reacting to appease h/a. It appears (so far) that the army is a proxy for h/a. Until the discovery finds otherwise, I am pretty sure the US will reverse its decision. The US nor Israel wants an iran on israel’s borders, that is suicidal. Can you imagine akhmed the terrorist in the flesh (A take from Jeff Dunham’s ventriloquist comedy) running Lebanon!!!! Lebanon’s politician’s are appeasing the shiites because they are afraid of their arms. Without h/a arms, we would not have the strife that exist in Lebanon. Every day that goes by with the status quo, is another day lost for freedom,peace and co-existence in Lebanon. Now most Lebanese are agog with the booming real estate transactions and the spike in tourism. Yet, I suggest that they should brace themselves for another disaster that is going to take place, due to the behavior of h/a , syria and iran. Wake up my Lebanese brothers and sisters. Our politicians cannot have it both ways–How many times murr exchanged visits with the US representatives. Like most Lebanese politicians, he flip-flops on so many issues just like his father. What a shame a bunch of crooks running the country. Need to say anymore.

  3. murr is reacting to appease h/a. It appears (so far) that the army is a proxy for h/a. Until the discovery finds otherwise, I am pretty sure the US will reverse its decision. The US nor Israel wants an iran on israel’s borders, that is suicidal. Can you imagine akhmed the terrorist in the flesh (A take from Jeff Dunham’s ventriloquist comedy) running Lebanon!!!! Lebanon’s politician’s are appeasing the shiites because they are afraid of their arms. Without h/a arms, we would not have the strife that exist in Lebanon. Every day that goes by with the status quo, is another day lost for freedom,peace and co-existence in Lebanon. Now most Lebanese are agog with the booming real estate transactions and the spike in tourism. Yet, I suggest that they should brace themselves for another disaster that is going to take place, due to the behavior of h/a , syria and iran. Wake up my Lebanese brothers and sisters. Our politicians cannot have it both ways–How many times murr exchanged visits with the US representatives. Like most Lebanese politicians, he flip-flops on so many issues just like his father. What a shame a bunch of crooks running the country. Need to say anymore.

  4. I forgot to add, that murr’s actions are to protect himself from a potential attack on him, just like what happened in the past. A defense minister will stand to defend the country and not defend the actions of h/a. By the way ask how much money he made in all the arms transactions. What a wimp.

  5. I forgot to add, that murr’s actions are to protect himself from a potential attack on him, just like what happened in the past. A defense minister will stand to defend the country and not defend the actions of h/a. By the way ask how much money he made in all the arms transactions. What a wimp.

  6. Are you kidding Ali?

    you dont even blame the U.S. one bit for this hypocritical stance?

    they block aid to the army because they were supposed to use it to fight HA and they didnt???

    Ali YOU wake up my friend…they are blocking the aid because AIPAC and Israhell told them too or else those congressmen dont get the votes.

  7. Are you kidding Ali?

    you dont even blame the U.S. one bit for this hypocritical stance?

    they block aid to the army because they were supposed to use it to fight HA and they didnt???

    Ali YOU wake up my friend…they are blocking the aid because AIPAC and Israhell told them too or else those congressmen dont get the votes.

  8. The blame starts from within. Our politicians allowed the mess that we are in and profit from it. Lebanese are wishy-washy about everything due to pressure and you have to please every one. In Lebanon there is no such thing as winner and loser. Look at it this way, March 14 representatives won the majority in recent election. Who is holding the country HOSTAGE? h/a. Give me a brake, I was a politician and know how they work in Lebanon, that’s why I gave it up and decided to seek fortune somewhere else.

  9. The blame starts from within. Our politicians allowed the mess that we are in and profit from it. Lebanese are wishy-washy about everything due to pressure and you have to please every one. In Lebanon there is no such thing as winner and loser. Look at it this way, March 14 representatives won the majority in recent election. Who is holding the country HOSTAGE? h/a. Give me a brake, I was a politician and know how they work in Lebanon, that’s why I gave it up and decided to seek fortune somewhere else.

  10. The blame starts from within. Our politicians allowed the mess that we are in and profit from it. Lebanese are wishy-washy about everything due to pressure and you have to please every one. In Lebanon there is no such thing as winner and loser. Look at it this way, March 14 representatives won the majority in recent election. Who is holding the country HOSTAGE? h/a. Give me a brake, I was a politician and know how they work in Lebanon, that’s why I gave it up and decided to seek fortune somewhere else.

  11. Ali we agree on one thing, all these politicians are after their own agenda, no doubt about it, including HA.

    but still, instead of reinforcing our army they decide to cut us off?

    its probably cos Israel was so pissed that LAF fired back at them instead of obeying them like they were expecting.

  12. Ali we agree on one thing, all these politicians are after their own agenda, no doubt about it, including HA.

    but still, instead of reinforcing our army they decide to cut us off?

    its probably cos Israel was so pissed that LAF fired back at them instead of obeying them like they were expecting.

  13. Ali we agree on one thing, all these politicians are after their own agenda, no doubt about it, including HA.

    but still, instead of reinforcing our army they decide to cut us off?

    its probably cos Israel was so pissed that LAF fired back at them instead of obeying them like they were expecting.

  14. Ali we agree on one thing, all these politicians are after their own agenda, no doubt about it, including HA.

    but still, instead of reinforcing our army they decide to cut us off?

    its probably cos Israel was so pissed that LAF fired back at them instead of obeying them like they were expecting.

  15. Cathy, just like you, I want nothing but a strong army to defend the country against all enemies, but history has proved us wrong. Because of the various religious sects in Lebanon and the majority being shiites in the army, the loyalty is not to the Lebanese president and Lebanon. Their loyality is for hassoun’s h/a, syria and iran. I am not going to feed the dog that is going to bite me, enough is enough!

  16. Cathy, just like you, I want nothing but a strong army to defend the country against all enemies, but history has proved us wrong. Because of the various religious sects in Lebanon and the majority being shiites in the army, the loyalty is not to the Lebanese president and Lebanon. Their loyality is for hassoun’s h/a, syria and iran. I am not going to feed the dog that is going to bite me, enough is enough!

  17. Cathy, just like you, I want nothing but a strong army to defend the country against all enemies, but history has proved us wrong. Because of the various religious sects in Lebanon and the majority being shiites in the army, the loyalty is not to the Lebanese president and Lebanon. Their loyality is for hassoun’s h/a, syria and iran. I am not going to feed the dog that is going to bite me, enough is enough!

  18. Cathy, just like you, I want nothing but a strong army to defend the country against all enemies, but history has proved us wrong. Because of the various religious sects in Lebanon and the majority being shiites in the army, the loyalty is not to the Lebanese president and Lebanon. Their loyality is for hassoun’s h/a, syria and iran. I am not going to feed the dog that is going to bite me, enough is enough!

  19. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Cathy and Ali, you are both are right but i stand for Cathy comments. In which logic the US provides AiD to the LAF to build it’s strengthens to face internal or external challenges. FYI, the army is equipped only with basic weaponry to fight internally because the US wasnt authorized by the jews. If you recall the economy crisis it had nothing to do wih real estate and. Mortgages was mostly the Yankees Jews held the money to punish the new direction of the US which the Jews disagree with Obama. The Jews monopolies the currency in the states.

    It’s sad for this end using Iran to equip the LAF we will end up with all republican guardsin beirut training the Lebanese army and providing assistance to HA. Its major mistake by the US and the jews community, they will engage in cold or military war without end.

    Murr speech is like everyone else he has to stand to the LAF he like or dislike it, he has no choice. I think everyone is selling us for the sake of some international deals. I wish if we can unite then we can stand up facing the entire world. We are so brilliant and talented but again each one of us is interested about his agenda.

  20. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Cathy and Ali, you are both are right but i stand for Cathy comments. In which logic the US provides AiD to the LAF to build it’s strengthens to face internal or external challenges. FYI, the army is equipped only with basic weaponry to fight internally because the US wasnt authorized by the jews. If you recall the economy crisis it had nothing to do wih real estate and. Mortgages was mostly the Yankees Jews held the money to punish the new direction of the US which the Jews disagree with Obama. The Jews monopolies the currency in the states.

    It’s sad for this end using Iran to equip the LAF we will end up with all republican guardsin beirut training the Lebanese army and providing assistance to HA. Its major mistake by the US and the jews community, they will engage in cold or military war without end.

    Murr speech is like everyone else he has to stand to the LAF he like or dislike it, he has no choice. I think everyone is selling us for the sake of some international deals. I wish if we can unite then we can stand up facing the entire world. We are so brilliant and talented but again each one of us is interested about his agenda.

  21. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Cathy and Ali, you are both are right but i stand for Cathy comments. In which logic the US provides AiD to the LAF to build it’s strengthens to face internal or external challenges. FYI, the army is equipped only with basic weaponry to fight internally because the US wasnt authorized by the jews. If you recall the economy crisis it had nothing to do wih real estate and. Mortgages was mostly the Yankees Jews held the money to punish the new direction of the US which the Jews disagree with Obama. The Jews monopolies the currency in the states.

    It’s sad for this end using Iran to equip the LAF we will end up with all republican guardsin beirut training the Lebanese army and providing assistance to HA. Its major mistake by the US and the jews community, they will engage in cold or military war without end.

    Murr speech is like everyone else he has to stand to the LAF he like or dislike it, he has no choice. I think everyone is selling us for the sake of some international deals. I wish if we can unite then we can stand up facing the entire world. We are so brilliant and talented but again each one of us is interested about his agenda.

  22. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Cathy and Ali, you are both are right but i stand for Cathy comments. In which logic the US provides AiD to the LAF to build it’s strengthens to face internal or external challenges. FYI, the army is equipped only with basic weaponry to fight internally because the US wasnt authorized by the jews. If you recall the economy crisis it had nothing to do wih real estate and. Mortgages was mostly the Yankees Jews held the money to punish the new direction of the US which the Jews disagree with Obama. The Jews monopolies the currency in the states.

    It’s sad for this end using Iran to equip the LAF we will end up with all republican guardsin beirut training the Lebanese army and providing assistance to HA. Its major mistake by the US and the jews community, they will engage in cold or military war without end.

    Murr speech is like everyone else he has to stand to the LAF he like or dislike it, he has no choice. I think everyone is selling us for the sake of some international deals. I wish if we can unite then we can stand up facing the entire world. We are so brilliant and talented but again each one of us is interested about his agenda.

  23. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    To add, I will never buy the idea as ha has an influence on the LAF. Never And never. we have great armed forces led by Kahwagi close friend to our family. I met him last year at his chalet at hemam al askri in jounieh. Great and strong leader. Trust me our army will fight with their hands if there is need but they never surrender to the enemy.

    Our politicians are lost these days and Nasralleh pressed harder on them. Still yet to hear our PM Hariri for his comments. It’s delicate case we are going through. It’s like a cocktail. But we won’t kiss the ass of any country to arm our LAF. We live in holy land and god is there to protect us.

  24. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    To add, I will never buy the idea as ha has an influence on the LAF. Never And never. we have great armed forces led by Kahwagi close friend to our family. I met him last year at his chalet at hemam al askri in jounieh. Great and strong leader. Trust me our army will fight with their hands if there is need but they never surrender to the enemy.

    Our politicians are lost these days and Nasralleh pressed harder on them. Still yet to hear our PM Hariri for his comments. It’s delicate case we are going through. It’s like a cocktail. But we won’t kiss the ass of any country to arm our LAF. We live in holy land and god is there to protect us.

  25. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    To add, I will never buy the idea as ha has an influence on the LAF. Never And never. we have great armed forces led by Kahwagi close friend to our family. I met him last year at his chalet at hemam al askri in jounieh. Great and strong leader. Trust me our army will fight with their hands if there is need but they never surrender to the enemy.

    Our politicians are lost these days and Nasralleh pressed harder on them. Still yet to hear our PM Hariri for his comments. It’s delicate case we are going through. It’s like a cocktail. But we won’t kiss the ass of any country to arm our LAF. We live in holy land and god is there to protect us.

  26. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    To add, I will never buy the idea as ha has an influence on the LAF. Never And never. we have great armed forces led by Kahwagi close friend to our family. I met him last year at his chalet at hemam al askri in jounieh. Great and strong leader. Trust me our army will fight with their hands if there is need but they never surrender to the enemy.

    Our politicians are lost these days and Nasralleh pressed harder on them. Still yet to hear our PM Hariri for his comments. It’s delicate case we are going through. It’s like a cocktail. But we won’t kiss the ass of any country to arm our LAF. We live in holy land and god is there to protect us.

  27. prophet Avatar

    The Lebanese army should never accept any conditional aid from the USA or any other country. I think it became clear now that no country is going to give free aid to any other country with out conditions. The usa has been giving modest military aids to the Lebanese armed forces(LAF), Hoping that one day these weapons could be used against HA. The Israelis thought that the LAF were stationed in south Lebanon to protect the Israeli border. After the border incident last week, they got a new reality. Reality that says an Army is there to protect its own border from enemies( in case Israel). Even if Iran offered to arm the LAF, The Lebanese government should reject that aid, because It will be some how conditioned.

    The only way to arm the LAF is for Lebanon to pay for its own weapons, and choose what the LAF really need to defend Lebanese border .Any hand out should be rejected all together. When you pay for what you want, you are free use it as you see fit.

    The USA never had the best interests of Lebanon in mind. It’s always about Israel and its superiority. The same goes to what is called “Moderate Arab countries”.

    1. That is what I have been saying for days. The Lebanese should be the source of aid to the LAF.

    2. That is what I have been saying for days. The Lebanese should be the source of aid to the LAF.

    3. That is what I have been saying for days. The Lebanese should be the source of aid to the LAF.

      1. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        I agree with you about self arming through Lebanese period. Otherwise another price would be paid on Lebanese account. Hariri has enough money and most of politicians to support the Lebanese government. Why they don’t?

      2. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        I agree with you about self arming through Lebanese period. Otherwise another price would be paid on Lebanese account. Hariri has enough money and most of politicians to support the Lebanese government. Why they don’t?

      3. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        I agree with you about self arming through Lebanese period. Otherwise another price would be paid on Lebanese account. Hariri has enough money and most of politicians to support the Lebanese government. Why they don’t?

      4. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        I agree with you about self arming through Lebanese period. Otherwise another price would be paid on Lebanese account. Hariri has enough money and most of politicians to support the Lebanese government. Why they don’t?

    4. That is what I have been saying for days. The Lebanese should be the source of aid to the LAF.

    5. voice of reason Avatar
      voice of reason

      “Hoping that one day these weapons could be used against HA” not exactly, the USA school of thought on this issue is that the arms were to strengthen the army to be able to take control of all of lebanon like it should and not have a state within a state like the status quo. remember the lebanese government’s excuse “but the army is too weak and hizballah is too strong” “we cant do anything about hizballah because they are stronger then our army and they will destroy us”… as a US “ally” we can not go and attack another US ally otherwise the arms will be cut off. the attack was unprovoked and smells like hizballah plan,to get lebanon in another war with israel to bolster its dying image, all the way. the lebanese army needs to punish the ones responsible for the attack to show good faith and not war mongering, otherwise USA will not support this rogue nation.

      “The USA never had the best interests of Lebanon in mind” that’s completely false… lebanon’s best interest is not to have a state within a state, and be a normal country where the army defends the people against real threats not bullshit ones like the trimming of tree branches that extend over the fence into another country.. that’s called starting a war over nothing. we have to decide as a people whether we want to live side by side with our neighbors in peace or we want to take pot shots at them because we are symapthetic to the filastizi cause(another bullshit cause which is not in the interest of lebanon), lebanon has paid much because of the filastizi nonsense. what is our beef with Israel? if we have any?

      1. voice of reason, how many “filastizi” as you disrespectufully called them, do you have in Lebanon at the moment?

        and it is because of whom?

        if this is not enough to make you understand what is the “beef” that ISRAEL has with US and not vice versa then you need to read up on zionism, its objectives and goals, maybe then you will get an idea.

        I rest my case

      2. voice of reason, how many “filastizi” as you disrespectufully called them, do you have in Lebanon at the moment?

        and it is because of whom?

        if this is not enough to make you understand what is the “beef” that ISRAEL has with US and not vice versa then you need to read up on zionism, its objectives and goals, maybe then you will get an idea.

        I rest my case

      3. VOR, That is so rude.

        When the Palestinians migrated to Lebanon in 1948, the Lebanese government got paid, and still getting paid by the UN to house them. Where did/is this money going? Ask the Lebanese goverment.

        They were given the least of the least in life basics to survive on, forbidden to work in descent jobs, and get high educations.

        In early 70s, the Palestinian camps (mostly Christians) were invaded by Syrian and other Lebanese Christian groups and were killed by the thousands.

        I am all for the right of return to their land, and I agree that it is not our job to fight their battles, but for God Sake look at them as Human Being.

        People are made to look like the Lord and downgrading any of them is the same as downgrading Jesus.

      4. VOR, That is so rude.

        When the Palestinians migrated to Lebanon in 1948, the Lebanese government got paid, and still getting paid by the UN to house them. Where did/is this money going? Ask the Lebanese goverment.

        They were given the least of the least in life basics to survive on, forbidden to work in descent jobs, and get high educations.

        In early 70s, the Palestinian camps (mostly Christians) were invaded by Syrian and other Lebanese Christian groups and were killed by the thousands.

        I am all for the right of return to their land, and I agree that it is not our job to fight their battles, but for God Sake look at them as Human Being.

        People are made to look like the Lord and downgrading any of them is the same as downgrading Jesus.

      5. thumbs up Joanna

      6. thumbs up Joanna

      7. thumbs up Joanna

  28. prophet Avatar

    The Lebanese army should never accept any conditional aid from the USA or any other country. I think it became clear now that no country is going to give free aid to any other country with out conditions. The usa has been giving modest military aids to the Lebanese armed forces(LAF), Hoping that one day these weapons could be used against HA. The Israelis thought that the LAF were stationed in south Lebanon to protect the Israeli border. After the border incident last week, they got a new reality. Reality that says an Army is there to protect its own border from enemies( in case Israel). Even if Iran offered to arm the LAF, The Lebanese government should reject that aid, because It will be some how conditioned.

    The only way to arm the LAF is for Lebanon to pay for its own weapons, and choose what the LAF really need to defend Lebanese border .Any hand out should be rejected all together. When you pay for what you want, you are free use it as you see fit.

    The USA never had the best interests of Lebanon in mind. It’s always about Israel and its superiority. The same goes to what is called “Moderate Arab countries”.

  29. prophet Avatar

    The Lebanese army should never accept any conditional aid from the USA or any other country. I think it became clear now that no country is going to give free aid to any other country with out conditions. The usa has been giving modest military aids to the Lebanese armed forces(LAF), Hoping that one day these weapons could be used against HA. The Israelis thought that the LAF were stationed in south Lebanon to protect the Israeli border. After the border incident last week, they got a new reality. Reality that says an Army is there to protect its own border from enemies( in case Israel). Even if Iran offered to arm the LAF, The Lebanese government should reject that aid, because It will be some how conditioned.

    The only way to arm the LAF is for Lebanon to pay for its own weapons, and choose what the LAF really need to defend Lebanese border .Any hand out should be rejected all together. When you pay for what you want, you are free use it as you see fit.

    The USA never had the best interests of Lebanon in mind. It’s always about Israel and its superiority. The same goes to what is called “Moderate Arab countries”.

  30. prophet Avatar

    The Lebanese army should never accept any conditional aid from the USA or any other country. I think it became clear now that no country is going to give free aid to any other country with out conditions. The usa has been giving modest military aids to the Lebanese armed forces(LAF), Hoping that one day these weapons could be used against HA. The Israelis thought that the LAF were stationed in south Lebanon to protect the Israeli border. After the border incident last week, they got a new reality. Reality that says an Army is there to protect its own border from enemies( in case Israel). Even if Iran offered to arm the LAF, The Lebanese government should reject that aid, because It will be some how conditioned.

    The only way to arm the LAF is for Lebanon to pay for its own weapons, and choose what the LAF really need to defend Lebanese border .Any hand out should be rejected all together. When you pay for what you want, you are free use it as you see fit.

    The USA never had the best interests of Lebanon in mind. It’s always about Israel and its superiority. The same goes to what is called “Moderate Arab countries”.

  31. prophet Avatar

    If I may add. The level of corruption in the Lebanese institutions wastes enough money to arm the LAF to the teeth. It was recently in the open that close to $11 billion ( with a B ) were wasted or disappeared or couldn’t be accounted for were spent during the Seniora era. Could you imagine if 20% of this money were used to arm the LAF , the results you will have? Even donations could raise enough money to buy supplies for the Army.

    1. I don’t know much about the internal affairs, but for sure I am in total agreement of Donations to arm the LAF.

    2. I don’t know much about the internal affairs, but for sure I am in total agreement of Donations to arm the LAF.

    3. I don’t know much about the internal affairs, but for sure I am in total agreement of Donations to arm the LAF.

    4. I don’t know much about the internal affairs, but for sure I am in total agreement of Donations to arm the LAF.

  32. prophet Avatar

    If I may add. The level of corruption in the Lebanese institutions wastes enough money to arm the LAF to the teeth. It was recently in the open that close to $11 billion ( with a B ) were wasted or disappeared or couldn’t be accounted for were spent during the Seniora era. Could you imagine if 20% of this money were used to arm the LAF , the results you will have? Even donations could raise enough money to buy supplies for the Army.

  33. prophet Avatar

    If I may add. The level of corruption in the Lebanese institutions wastes enough money to arm the LAF to the teeth. It was recently in the open that close to $11 billion ( with a B ) were wasted or disappeared or couldn’t be accounted for were spent during the Seniora era. Could you imagine if 20% of this money were used to arm the LAF , the results you will have? Even donations could raise enough money to buy supplies for the Army.

  34. prophet Avatar

    If I may add. The level of corruption in the Lebanese institutions wastes enough money to arm the LAF to the teeth. It was recently in the open that close to $11 billion ( with a B ) were wasted or disappeared or couldn’t be accounted for were spent during the Seniora era. Could you imagine if 20% of this money were used to arm the LAF , the results you will have? Even donations could raise enough money to buy supplies for the Army.

  35. prophet Avatar

    Just to make myself clear, Joanna. I want enough strength to defend Lebanon. Basically a strong defensive Army is what I want to see.

  36. prophet Avatar

    Just to make myself clear, Joanna. I want enough strength to defend Lebanon. Basically a strong defensive Army is what I want to see.

  37. prophet Avatar

    Just to make myself clear, Joanna. I want enough strength to defend Lebanon. Basically a strong defensive Army is what I want to see.

  38. prophet Avatar

    Just to make myself clear, Joanna. I want enough strength to defend Lebanon. Basically a strong defensive Army is what I want to see.

  39. I am tired of idealists. Reality is non-existent in Lebanon and no one wants to own up to it. As the political situation continues to deteriorate, recently because of h/a and not too long ago with the palestinians, I see no bright future to this country with the current politicians and supporters. I was hoping for better days in the near future, but all indications are contrary. Keep on supporting h/a and the pseudo regime and let the innocents pay the price.

  40. I am tired of idealists. Reality is non-existent in Lebanon and no one wants to own up to it. As the political situation continues to deteriorate, recently because of h/a and not too long ago with the palestinians, I see no bright future to this country with the current politicians and supporters. I was hoping for better days in the near future, but all indications are contrary. Keep on supporting h/a and the pseudo regime and let the innocents pay the price.

  41. prophet Avatar

    Ali,

    I agree with you on the politicians in Lebanon, but that does not mean we give up , like you seem to do.

    Put idealism aside, the reality is that a country should and must be able to defend itself. You want to give up and always foresee a dark future for Lebanon, go right ahead. It’s this mentality that Israel relies on to always defeat Arab countries. I truly think that most Lebanese overcame this mentality of defeat and discouragements… Israel never had to worry about Lebanon when most Lebanese had you mentality. Things are different now. Israel was defeated more than once in Lebanon. No thanks to your attitude though, It happened because some people decided to be a bit idealistic, and paid with their lives to force Israel out of Lebanon, and defended along with the Lebanese army the 2006 aggression, and eventually prevailed. I’m sure they were hoping to write new chapters in Lebanese history books for your children to read , be proud of.

  42. prophet Avatar

    Ali,

    I agree with you on the politicians in Lebanon, but that does not mean we give up , like you seem to do.

    Put idealism aside, the reality is that a country should and must be able to defend itself. You want to give up and always foresee a dark future for Lebanon, go right ahead. It’s this mentality that Israel relies on to always defeat Arab countries. I truly think that most Lebanese overcame this mentality of defeat and discouragements… Israel never had to worry about Lebanon when most Lebanese had you mentality. Things are different now. Israel was defeated more than once in Lebanon. No thanks to your attitude though, It happened because some people decided to be a bit idealistic, and paid with their lives to force Israel out of Lebanon, and defended along with the Lebanese army the 2006 aggression, and eventually prevailed. I’m sure they were hoping to write new chapters in Lebanese history books for your children to read , be proud of.

    1. Since you are a prophet, you must be seeing things I don’t. Keep on dreaming that israel was defeated. israel stopped the bombing because h/a said uncle and the western community arranged for a cease fire and the instituting what we know now as 1559 and 1701. Thereafter h/a reneged on their promises.

      I did not give up, but chose another life where I do not have to live with liars, thieves, hypocrites, users and abusers of the political, humane and judicial system. Keep on dreaming

      1. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        Ali, my apology, you are wrong about hizballah seeking for a cease fie in The 2006. Its written everywhere on the net. Israel has failed badly, requesting the US to push the UN for cease fire. Read it too in Young’ article. I am not a hizballah supporter at all but this is reality.

      2. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        Ali, my apology, you are wrong about hizballah seeking for a cease fie in The 2006. Its written everywhere on the net. Israel has failed badly, requesting the US to push the UN for cease fire. Read it too in Young’ article. I am not a hizballah supporter at all but this is reality.

      3. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        Ali, my apology, you are wrong about hizballah seeking for a cease fie in The 2006. Its written everywhere on the net. Israel has failed badly, requesting the US to push the UN for cease fire. Read it too in Young’ article. I am not a hizballah supporter at all but this is reality.

      4. Ali, where do you people get your info?

        haven’t you heard the uproar in Israel over Olmert’s failure in the lebanon war, huge military defeat?

        if Israel admitts it, then you are going to deny it just because you dont like HA?

      5. Ali, where do you people get your info?

        haven’t you heard the uproar in Israel over Olmert’s failure in the lebanon war, huge military defeat?

        if Israel admitts it, then you are going to deny it just because you dont like HA?

      6. Ali, where do you people get your info?

        haven’t you heard the uproar in Israel over Olmert’s failure in the lebanon war, huge military defeat?

        if Israel admitts it, then you are going to deny it just because you dont like HA?

      7. Ali, where do you people get your info?

        haven’t you heard the uproar in Israel over Olmert’s failure in the lebanon war, huge military defeat?

        if Israel admitts it, then you are going to deny it just because you dont like HA?

    2. Since you are a prophet, you must be seeing things I don’t. Keep on dreaming that israel was defeated. israel stopped the bombing because h/a said uncle and the western community arranged for a cease fire and the instituting what we know now as 1559 and 1701. Thereafter h/a reneged on their promises.

      I did not give up, but chose another life where I do not have to live with liars, thieves, hypocrites, users and abusers of the political, humane and judicial system. Keep on dreaming

    3. Since you are a prophet, you must be seeing things I don’t. Keep on dreaming that israel was defeated. israel stopped the bombing because h/a said uncle and the western community arranged for a cease fire and the instituting what we know now as 1559 and 1701. Thereafter h/a reneged on their promises.

      I did not give up, but chose another life where I do not have to live with liars, thieves, hypocrites, users and abusers of the political, humane and judicial system. Keep on dreaming

    4. Since you are a prophet, you must be seeing things I don’t. Keep on dreaming that israel was defeated. israel stopped the bombing because h/a said uncle and the western community arranged for a cease fire and the instituting what we know now as 1559 and 1701. Thereafter h/a reneged on their promises.

      I did not give up, but chose another life where I do not have to live with liars, thieves, hypocrites, users and abusers of the political, humane and judicial system. Keep on dreaming

  43. prophet Avatar

    Ali,

    I agree with you on the politicians in Lebanon, but that does not mean we give up , like you seem to do.

    Put idealism aside, the reality is that a country should and must be able to defend itself. You want to give up and always foresee a dark future for Lebanon, go right ahead. It’s this mentality that Israel relies on to always defeat Arab countries. I truly think that most Lebanese overcame this mentality of defeat and discouragements… Israel never had to worry about Lebanon when most Lebanese had you mentality. Things are different now. Israel was defeated more than once in Lebanon. No thanks to your attitude though, It happened because some people decided to be a bit idealistic, and paid with their lives to force Israel out of Lebanon, and defended along with the Lebanese army the 2006 aggression, and eventually prevailed. I’m sure they were hoping to write new chapters in Lebanese history books for your children to read , be proud of.

  44. prophet Avatar

    Ali,

    I agree with you on the politicians in Lebanon, but that does not mean we give up , like you seem to do.

    Put idealism aside, the reality is that a country should and must be able to defend itself. You want to give up and always foresee a dark future for Lebanon, go right ahead. It’s this mentality that Israel relies on to always defeat Arab countries. I truly think that most Lebanese overcame this mentality of defeat and discouragements… Israel never had to worry about Lebanon when most Lebanese had you mentality. Things are different now. Israel was defeated more than once in Lebanon. No thanks to your attitude though, It happened because some people decided to be a bit idealistic, and paid with their lives to force Israel out of Lebanon, and defended along with the Lebanese army the 2006 aggression, and eventually prevailed. I’m sure they were hoping to write new chapters in Lebanese history books for your children to read , be proud of.

  45. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
    George Haddad N.J.

    Ali way to go that’s what I been saying all along. They thought they defeated israel in the 80’s when israel was withdrawing from Lebanon. Second war in 2006 was as you said israel stopped because the UN and the western countries made it stop. I am glad it did stop because no one wants to see anymore killing. So what was the war of 2006 all about anyway? oh wait to free Samir Quntar the brave man who killed a little girl with a rock..I don’t doubt israelis killed children via their bombs but we had 1200 people killed in Lebanon, thousands of wounded. Thousands of homes destoryed and after that they barely appologized to Lebanese and only the hezbollah members and their families got compensated, The rest got 12 thousands and only few. He (Nassrallah) promised to rebuild but the only he did added to his stockpile of arms to prepare for another deadly and disasterous war. God help us because this monster and his organization are going to bring the end of lebanon the next round of war..He’s awaiting hariri to approve a committee to look into his evidence and reject the STL. if Hariri rejects, then Nassrallah threatening to have another Shiite-sunnis war. Hariri is at a roadcross right now. If he goes along with it, then he’s not only stabbing his own family but all the families of those who got killed. And if didn’t he will risk a civil war created by hezbollah which the latter will blame israel of course because the lebanese didn’t listen to him. God help lebanon from all its enemies including hezbollah.

    1. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
      Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

      George, in my opinion as I know Hariri, he will act as PM more than the son of Rafik. For the sake of Truth they won’t burn the entire country. Let us be logic. Amine Gemayel knows who killed his son, Tueni, etc but they were more beyond personal issues which I call them real leaders. Hariri is silent but his mother and his party members are enforcing the stl role and they need to take into account what nasralleh has as evidences just for the sake to calm the situation which we all know are not at all to consider. I believe Israel has nothing to do with Hariri. Rafik he had bad relationship with lahood and ha he wasn’t talking to lahood for at least a year before his assassination things were very bad as he was pushing to disarm ha and the time was right to honking have met with him for 2 minutes while he was in Canada regArding Lebanon post scandal and I met george bkessini and dr Youssef ghazi. hinking of that I can say ha is the most beneficiary of killing hariri.

      1. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        In my opinion and based on what I hear through the walls, HA plan is to engage the army into bAttle against Israel which will lead HA to engage and since HA is more advanced and equipped for such war the point is HA will take over the army command and here you go the army is merged with HA and ready for any coup d’état in lebanon where they will raise their importance through a second war. FYI, I just read today in Arabic language Israel has sent a warning to the Lebanese army if any incident as the tree incident will happen again is going to hit Lebanon and the army very hard like never did before. You can read it on siyese.com and trust me in this, when HA is squeezed with the STL issue or Iran is facing moe pressure HA will find a way to kick off this war without any notice. God put his mercy on the Lebanese people.

      2. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        In my opinion and based on what I hear through the walls, HA plan is to engage the army into bAttle against Israel which will lead HA to engage and since HA is more advanced and equipped for such war the point is HA will take over the army command and here you go the army is merged with HA and ready for any coup d’état in lebanon where they will raise their importance through a second war. FYI, I just read today in Arabic language Israel has sent a warning to the Lebanese army if any incident as the tree incident will happen again is going to hit Lebanon and the army very hard like never did before. You can read it on siyese.com and trust me in this, when HA is squeezed with the STL issue or Iran is facing moe pressure HA will find a way to kick off this war without any notice. God put his mercy on the Lebanese people.

      3. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
        Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

        In my opinion and based on what I hear through the walls, HA plan is to engage the army into bAttle against Israel which will lead HA to engage and since HA is more advanced and equipped for such war the point is HA will take over the army command and here you go the army is merged with HA and ready for any coup d’état in lebanon where they will raise their importance through a second war. FYI, I just read today in Arabic language Israel has sent a warning to the Lebanese army if any incident as the tree incident will happen again is going to hit Lebanon and the army very hard like never did before. You can read it on siyese.com and trust me in this, when HA is squeezed with the STL issue or Iran is facing moe pressure HA will find a way to kick off this war without any notice. God put his mercy on the Lebanese people.

    2. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
      Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

      George, in my opinion as I know Hariri, he will act as PM more than the son of Rafik. For the sake of Truth they won’t burn the entire country. Let us be logic. Amine Gemayel knows who killed his son, Tueni, etc but they were more beyond personal issues which I call them real leaders. Hariri is silent but his mother and his party members are enforcing the stl role and they need to take into account what nasralleh has as evidences just for the sake to calm the situation which we all know are not at all to consider. I believe Israel has nothing to do with Hariri. Rafik he had bad relationship with lahood and ha he wasn’t talking to lahood for at least a year before his assassination things were very bad as he was pushing to disarm ha and the time was right to honking have met with him for 2 minutes while he was in Canada regArding Lebanon post scandal and I met george bkessini and dr Youssef ghazi. hinking of that I can say ha is the most beneficiary of killing hariri.

    3. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
      Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

      George, in my opinion as I know Hariri, he will act as PM more than the son of Rafik. For the sake of Truth they won’t burn the entire country. Let us be logic. Amine Gemayel knows who killed his son, Tueni, etc but they were more beyond personal issues which I call them real leaders. Hariri is silent but his mother and his party members are enforcing the stl role and they need to take into account what nasralleh has as evidences just for the sake to calm the situation which we all know are not at all to consider. I believe Israel has nothing to do with Hariri. Rafik he had bad relationship with lahood and ha he wasn’t talking to lahood for at least a year before his assassination things were very bad as he was pushing to disarm ha and the time was right to honking have met with him for 2 minutes while he was in Canada regArding Lebanon post scandal and I met george bkessini and dr Youssef ghazi. hinking of that I can say ha is the most beneficiary of killing hariri.

  46. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
    George Haddad N.J.

    Ali way to go that’s what I been saying all along. They thought they defeated israel in the 80’s when israel was withdrawing from Lebanon. Second war in 2006 was as you said israel stopped because the UN and the western countries made it stop. I am glad it did stop because no one wants to see anymore killing. So what was the war of 2006 all about anyway? oh wait to free Samir Quntar the brave man who killed a little girl with a rock..I don’t doubt israelis killed children via their bombs but we had 1200 people killed in Lebanon, thousands of wounded. Thousands of homes destoryed and after that they barely appologized to Lebanese and only the hezbollah members and their families got compensated, The rest got 12 thousands and only few. He (Nassrallah) promised to rebuild but the only he did added to his stockpile of arms to prepare for another deadly and disasterous war. God help us because this monster and his organization are going to bring the end of lebanon the next round of war..He’s awaiting hariri to approve a committee to look into his evidence and reject the STL. if Hariri rejects, then Nassrallah threatening to have another Shiite-sunnis war. Hariri is at a roadcross right now. If he goes along with it, then he’s not only stabbing his own family but all the families of those who got killed. And if didn’t he will risk a civil war created by hezbollah which the latter will blame israel of course because the lebanese didn’t listen to him. God help lebanon from all its enemies including hezbollah.

  47. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
    George Haddad N.J.

    Ali way to go that’s what I been saying all along. They thought they defeated israel in the 80’s when israel was withdrawing from Lebanon. Second war in 2006 was as you said israel stopped because the UN and the western countries made it stop. I am glad it did stop because no one wants to see anymore killing. So what was the war of 2006 all about anyway? oh wait to free Samir Quntar the brave man who killed a little girl with a rock..I don’t doubt israelis killed children via their bombs but we had 1200 people killed in Lebanon, thousands of wounded. Thousands of homes destoryed and after that they barely appologized to Lebanese and only the hezbollah members and their families got compensated, The rest got 12 thousands and only few. He (Nassrallah) promised to rebuild but the only he did added to his stockpile of arms to prepare for another deadly and disasterous war. God help us because this monster and his organization are going to bring the end of lebanon the next round of war..He’s awaiting hariri to approve a committee to look into his evidence and reject the STL. if Hariri rejects, then Nassrallah threatening to have another Shiite-sunnis war. Hariri is at a roadcross right now. If he goes along with it, then he’s not only stabbing his own family but all the families of those who got killed. And if didn’t he will risk a civil war created by hezbollah which the latter will blame israel of course because the lebanese didn’t listen to him. God help lebanon from all its enemies including hezbollah.

  48. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
    George Haddad N.J.

    Ali way to go that’s what I been saying all along. They thought they defeated israel in the 80’s when israel was withdrawing from Lebanon. Second war in 2006 was as you said israel stopped because the UN and the western countries made it stop. I am glad it did stop because no one wants to see anymore killing. So what was the war of 2006 all about anyway? oh wait to free Samir Quntar the brave man who killed a little girl with a rock..I don’t doubt israelis killed children via their bombs but we had 1200 people killed in Lebanon, thousands of wounded. Thousands of homes destoryed and after that they barely appologized to Lebanese and only the hezbollah members and their families got compensated, The rest got 12 thousands and only few. He (Nassrallah) promised to rebuild but the only he did added to his stockpile of arms to prepare for another deadly and disasterous war. God help us because this monster and his organization are going to bring the end of lebanon the next round of war..He’s awaiting hariri to approve a committee to look into his evidence and reject the STL. if Hariri rejects, then Nassrallah threatening to have another Shiite-sunnis war. Hariri is at a roadcross right now. If he goes along with it, then he’s not only stabbing his own family but all the families of those who got killed. And if didn’t he will risk a civil war created by hezbollah which the latter will blame israel of course because the lebanese didn’t listen to him. God help lebanon from all its enemies including hezbollah.

  49. Tony Smith Avatar
    Tony Smith

    2 Representatives of the the house,one based in NY and the other one 10 minutes from my house and they are both jewish and big supporters of Israel.Now how is this not a conflict of interest!!Mr.Berman is 300 years old he should move to Israel for his few month left to live and the US foreign policy makers proved again that they no less than idiots and don’t seem to have learned from their mistakes not when they allow

    an antique House rep. to take such decisions.I do not wish that Iran gains more influence in Lebanon but it is time to take a stand and refuse to come second.

    1. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
      George Haddad N.J.

      I agree with you but also I heard and read articles that Rafiq Hariri was working on a resolution to kick syria out of lebanon. Don’t you think if this was true and syria’s greed in lebanon control for decades will tick it off big if this was the case? Who else can aid it if Syria decided to blow up Hariri? Its main allies hezbollah and SSNP and others. Do not think that HA was the main culprits here. Ghazi Kannan got killed because he wanted to blow the whistle on the syrian regime. His brother got killed and syria govt announced that he committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. I wander who pushed him to do that? Khaddam who was the loyal gov’t officials for decades turned against them. There are evidence of syrian agents meeting with some bomb experts in Eastern Europe and buying lots of explosive from them that supposedly used in the assasination. STL is not just going to hand verdict based on words of treacherous and wicked witnesses like the syrian agents who were playing games in order to confuse the investigations. Enough said! Let the jury decide the verdict..

    2. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
      George Haddad N.J.

      I agree with you but also I heard and read articles that Rafiq Hariri was working on a resolution to kick syria out of lebanon. Don’t you think if this was true and syria’s greed in lebanon control for decades will tick it off big if this was the case? Who else can aid it if Syria decided to blow up Hariri? Its main allies hezbollah and SSNP and others. Do not think that HA was the main culprits here. Ghazi Kannan got killed because he wanted to blow the whistle on the syrian regime. His brother got killed and syria govt announced that he committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. I wander who pushed him to do that? Khaddam who was the loyal gov’t officials for decades turned against them. There are evidence of syrian agents meeting with some bomb experts in Eastern Europe and buying lots of explosive from them that supposedly used in the assasination. STL is not just going to hand verdict based on words of treacherous and wicked witnesses like the syrian agents who were playing games in order to confuse the investigations. Enough said! Let the jury decide the verdict..

    3. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
      George Haddad N.J.

      I agree with you but also I heard and read articles that Rafiq Hariri was working on a resolution to kick syria out of lebanon. Don’t you think if this was true and syria’s greed in lebanon control for decades will tick it off big if this was the case? Who else can aid it if Syria decided to blow up Hariri? Its main allies hezbollah and SSNP and others. Do not think that HA was the main culprits here. Ghazi Kannan got killed because he wanted to blow the whistle on the syrian regime. His brother got killed and syria govt announced that he committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. I wander who pushed him to do that? Khaddam who was the loyal gov’t officials for decades turned against them. There are evidence of syrian agents meeting with some bomb experts in Eastern Europe and buying lots of explosive from them that supposedly used in the assasination. STL is not just going to hand verdict based on words of treacherous and wicked witnesses like the syrian agents who were playing games in order to confuse the investigations. Enough said! Let the jury decide the verdict..

    4. George Haddad N.J. Avatar
      George Haddad N.J.

      I agree with you but also I heard and read articles that Rafiq Hariri was working on a resolution to kick syria out of lebanon. Don’t you think if this was true and syria’s greed in lebanon control for decades will tick it off big if this was the case? Who else can aid it if Syria decided to blow up Hariri? Its main allies hezbollah and SSNP and others. Do not think that HA was the main culprits here. Ghazi Kannan got killed because he wanted to blow the whistle on the syrian regime. His brother got killed and syria govt announced that he committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. I wander who pushed him to do that? Khaddam who was the loyal gov’t officials for decades turned against them. There are evidence of syrian agents meeting with some bomb experts in Eastern Europe and buying lots of explosive from them that supposedly used in the assasination. STL is not just going to hand verdict based on words of treacherous and wicked witnesses like the syrian agents who were playing games in order to confuse the investigations. Enough said! Let the jury decide the verdict..

  50. Tony Smith Avatar
    Tony Smith

    2 Representatives of the the house,one based in NY and the other one 10 minutes from my house and they are both jewish and big supporters of Israel.Now how is this not a conflict of interest!!Mr.Berman is 300 years old he should move to Israel for his few month left to live and the US foreign policy makers proved again that they no less than idiots and don’t seem to have learned from their mistakes not when they allow

    an antique House rep. to take such decisions.I do not wish that Iran gains more influence in Lebanon but it is time to take a stand and refuse to come second.

  51. Tony Smith Avatar
    Tony Smith

    2 Representatives of the the house,one based in NY and the other one 10 minutes from my house and they are both jewish and big supporters of Israel.Now how is this not a conflict of interest!!Mr.Berman is 300 years old he should move to Israel for his few month left to live and the US foreign policy makers proved again that they no less than idiots and don’t seem to have learned from their mistakes not when they allow

    an antique House rep. to take such decisions.I do not wish that Iran gains more influence in Lebanon but it is time to take a stand and refuse to come second.

  52. prophet Avatar

    Ali,

    I see reality that you don’t want to see. What was a dream for me is the ability to visit my home town without being interrogated and humiliated by Israelis. And the dream came true that it was liberated, and I was able to visit and pass a Lebanese army post instead of an Israeli checkpoint. Maybe you’ve never experienced that in your life. But I have.

    George and you are in denial when it comes to Israel being defeated in Lebanon. It’s Ironic that Israelis themselves admit that they lost in 2006,and that they were forced to withdraw from Lebanon in 2000while you two won’t admit that. I know it’s a loosing battle to try to convince you .

    I won’t defend our politicians and institutions at all. I realize the sectarian problems that divides the country and the sectarian leaders…. I also realize that Nationalism isn’t seen by everyone in the same eyes. I do share your frustration with our form of government and the corruption in all of our institutions. That won’t stop me from being optimistic about the future.

  53. Constantin Avatar
    Constantin

    Prophet,

    I appreciate the civilized tone of your postings, although politically I do not agree with you, but you seem somebody with whom there could be dialogue, unlike others here who do not know but to label others with names and insult them.

    I definitely do not consider the 2006 war a VICTORY to Lebanon: Why?

    Yes, Israel did not achieve its target, but that does not mean we WON. Having 1,200 mostly innocent people dead, without counting the injured and permanently handicapped, and have half of our country destroyed is NOT A VICTORY for me. Israel did not get what it aimed getting at a very very high cost that we had to pay…. for the nth time.

    I always gave credit to Hizbullah for the 2000 liberation and not committing atrocities against the people living under Israeli occupation. However, that era is finished and we want the government, army and police to take control of the South and of all Lebanon, not a bunch of militias who are funded, fed, paid and nurtured by a foreign entity, Iran. We do not want any militias anymore, the militias time has finished, we want to live normal lives like in any other country (occupied or not, like in Syria where they ahve occupied land, but no resistance).

    The only reason that Hizbullah is not giving up its arms, in my opinion, is to rob the government and force its will on it the way they see it, because without the arms they pretty damn know that their will won’t be accepted. The resistance alibi is just B.S. nobody is buying it any more.

    They always considered themselves “mahroumeen”, so now they are getting anything they want, by force, and for this reason they will not give their arms other than by another force.

    1. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
      Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

      Constantin, goals and performance are not measured based on destruction level but contrarily based what you achieved in term of goals. I am Israel goal wasn’t to destroy Lebanon is mostly to defeat HA but they didn’t and they weren’t able to find the melitias they were underground doing quick gorillas fight which surprised the Israel pushing the US to call for a cease fire. This is called defeat. Definetly as backfire lebanon did nt win at all except ha members and their ego.

    2. prophet Avatar

      Constantin,

      I appreciate your courtesy and respond ,and I hope to see more objective and reasonable postings for it makes the debate more productive .And yes civility has to be the key here, not personal insults. Yet I would have to disagree with you on couple of points you made;

      Measuring defeat and lose in a war is relative to the goals and the purpose set , and how much was accomplished by conducting that war.

      Israel ,by its own admission, couldn’t accomplish any of the goals it set when it launched its destructive attack . It couldn’t destroy HA, It couldn’t get back the two soldiers by military means . Sure it resorted to destruction as a collective measure. It destroyed many villages, and whole neighborhoods, Killed more than 1400 civilians. And there is no doubt that it inflicted more damage to Lebanon than what HA was able to inflict on Israel.

      In any war destruction and damage will take place. When the German attacked the soviet union, and surrounded Stalingrad, the Soviets defended their cities and towns regardless of how large the coast and scarifies were. At the end of the day, No one could say The German won , just because they destroyed 90% of Stalingrad ,and the human cost of the Soviets was over 20 million people. The British, having to live underground for months because of the nightly attacks by the German, didn’t loose either, and the German lost the war anyway.

      Even though, most people still blame HA for initiating this war by kidnapping two Israeli soldiers from across the border, I still believe that Israel had planned for a war that same year on Lebanon. Israeli officials, on more than one occasion, stated that they had planned an attack on Lebanon. US Secretary of state encouraged the Israelis to fight on until they accomplish anything. But at the end Israel stopped because they knew they failed by any measure. Yes the kidnapping of the two soldiers was the excuse .But being a Lebanese who grow up on border town myself, I saw first hand ,as a young child, that Israel didn’t need an excuse to attack , infiltrate, and bomb south Lebanon. I’m talking about a time HA wasn’t even created, nor the Iranian revolution has taken place. I can go back to a time ,even, the PLO was not even created yet, and South Lebanon was under constant attacks, let alone the many massacres that Israel had done. The reason I’m going back in time is to highlight few facts that people in south Lebanon had to live with. My question is where was our Government then? No where to be seen. No army to defend, no Government to ensure the safety of its people. Basically, South Lebanon was abandoned by the Lebanese Government and by the international community all together.

      I wish we didn’t have to go through these wars. Wars are evil necessity. People in Lebanon ,and in the south in particular, want to live in peace like everyone else, but with dignity. I know you mentioned “Almahroumeen”, and now they get everyone by force. I disagree with you at all. People in the south need to be assured by their Government that they won’t be abandoned again .Even after the 2006 war, the Lebanese Government did little to help people rebuild. Our Government has to take control of its own territory, and have to take responsibility for its own people. They have to arm the Lebanese Army to defend its people and territory. Not the kind of conditional arming by the USA though. I Think I addressed that issue in my earlier posting

    3. prophet Avatar

      Constantin,

      I appreciate your courtesy and respond ,and I hope to see more objective and reasonable postings for it makes the debate more productive .And yes civility has to be the key here, not personal insults. Yet I would have to disagree with you on couple of points you made;

      Measuring defeat and lose in a war is relative to the goals and the purpose set , and how much was accomplished by conducting that war.

      Israel ,by its own admission, couldn’t accomplish any of the goals it set when it launched its destructive attack . It couldn’t destroy HA, It couldn’t get back the two soldiers by military means . Sure it resorted to destruction as a collective measure. It destroyed many villages, and whole neighborhoods, Killed more than 1400 civilians. And there is no doubt that it inflicted more damage to Lebanon than what HA was able to inflict on Israel.

      In any war destruction and damage will take place. When the German attacked the soviet union, and surrounded Stalingrad, the Soviets defended their cities and towns regardless of how large the coast and scarifies were. At the end of the day, No one could say The German won , just because they destroyed 90% of Stalingrad ,and the human cost of the Soviets was over 20 million people. The British, having to live underground for months because of the nightly attacks by the German, didn’t loose either, and the German lost the war anyway.

      Even though, most people still blame HA for initiating this war by kidnapping two Israeli soldiers from across the border, I still believe that Israel had planned for a war that same year on Lebanon. Israeli officials, on more than one occasion, stated that they had planned an attack on Lebanon. US Secretary of state encouraged the Israelis to fight on until they accomplish anything. But at the end Israel stopped because they knew they failed by any measure. Yes the kidnapping of the two soldiers was the excuse .But being a Lebanese who grow up on border town myself, I saw first hand ,as a young child, that Israel didn’t need an excuse to attack , infiltrate, and bomb south Lebanon. I’m talking about a time HA wasn’t even created, nor the Iranian revolution has taken place. I can go back to a time ,even, the PLO was not even created yet, and South Lebanon was under constant attacks, let alone the many massacres that Israel had done. The reason I’m going back in time is to highlight few facts that people in south Lebanon had to live with. My question is where was our Government then? No where to be seen. No army to defend, no Government to ensure the safety of its people. Basically, South Lebanon was abandoned by the Lebanese Government and by the international community all together.

      I wish we didn’t have to go through these wars. Wars are evil necessity. People in Lebanon ,and in the south in particular, want to live in peace like everyone else, but with dignity. I know you mentioned “Almahroumeen”, and now they get everyone by force. I disagree with you at all. People in the south need to be assured by their Government that they won’t be abandoned again .Even after the 2006 war, the Lebanese Government did little to help people rebuild. Our Government has to take control of its own territory, and have to take responsibility for its own people. They have to arm the Lebanese Army to defend its people and territory. Not the kind of conditional arming by the USA though. I Think I addressed that issue in my earlier posting

    4. prophet Avatar

      Constantin,

      I appreciate your courtesy and respond ,and I hope to see more objective and reasonable postings for it makes the debate more productive .And yes civility has to be the key here, not personal insults. Yet I would have to disagree with you on couple of points you made;

      Measuring defeat and lose in a war is relative to the goals and the purpose set , and how much was accomplished by conducting that war.

      Israel ,by its own admission, couldn’t accomplish any of the goals it set when it launched its destructive attack . It couldn’t destroy HA, It couldn’t get back the two soldiers by military means . Sure it resorted to destruction as a collective measure. It destroyed many villages, and whole neighborhoods, Killed more than 1400 civilians. And there is no doubt that it inflicted more damage to Lebanon than what HA was able to inflict on Israel.

      In any war destruction and damage will take place. When the German attacked the soviet union, and surrounded Stalingrad, the Soviets defended their cities and towns regardless of how large the coast and scarifies were. At the end of the day, No one could say The German won , just because they destroyed 90% of Stalingrad ,and the human cost of the Soviets was over 20 million people. The British, having to live underground for months because of the nightly attacks by the German, didn’t loose either, and the German lost the war anyway.

      Even though, most people still blame HA for initiating this war by kidnapping two Israeli soldiers from across the border, I still believe that Israel had planned for a war that same year on Lebanon. Israeli officials, on more than one occasion, stated that they had planned an attack on Lebanon. US Secretary of state encouraged the Israelis to fight on until they accomplish anything. But at the end Israel stopped because they knew they failed by any measure. Yes the kidnapping of the two soldiers was the excuse .But being a Lebanese who grow up on border town myself, I saw first hand ,as a young child, that Israel didn’t need an excuse to attack , infiltrate, and bomb south Lebanon. I’m talking about a time HA wasn’t even created, nor the Iranian revolution has taken place. I can go back to a time ,even, the PLO was not even created yet, and South Lebanon was under constant attacks, let alone the many massacres that Israel had done. The reason I’m going back in time is to highlight few facts that people in south Lebanon had to live with. My question is where was our Government then? No where to be seen. No army to defend, no Government to ensure the safety of its people. Basically, South Lebanon was abandoned by the Lebanese Government and by the international community all together.

      I wish we didn’t have to go through these wars. Wars are evil necessity. People in Lebanon ,and in the south in particular, want to live in peace like everyone else, but with dignity. I know you mentioned “Almahroumeen”, and now they get everyone by force. I disagree with you at all. People in the south need to be assured by their Government that they won’t be abandoned again .Even after the 2006 war, the Lebanese Government did little to help people rebuild. Our Government has to take control of its own territory, and have to take responsibility for its own people. They have to arm the Lebanese Army to defend its people and territory. Not the kind of conditional arming by the USA though. I Think I addressed that issue in my earlier posting

    5. prophet Avatar

      Constantin,

      I appreciate your courtesy and respond ,and I hope to see more objective and reasonable postings for it makes the debate more productive .And yes civility has to be the key here, not personal insults. Yet I would have to disagree with you on couple of points you made;

      Measuring defeat and lose in a war is relative to the goals and the purpose set , and how much was accomplished by conducting that war.

      Israel ,by its own admission, couldn’t accomplish any of the goals it set when it launched its destructive attack . It couldn’t destroy HA, It couldn’t get back the two soldiers by military means . Sure it resorted to destruction as a collective measure. It destroyed many villages, and whole neighborhoods, Killed more than 1400 civilians. And there is no doubt that it inflicted more damage to Lebanon than what HA was able to inflict on Israel.

      In any war destruction and damage will take place. When the German attacked the soviet union, and surrounded Stalingrad, the Soviets defended their cities and towns regardless of how large the coast and scarifies were. At the end of the day, No one could say The German won , just because they destroyed 90% of Stalingrad ,and the human cost of the Soviets was over 20 million people. The British, having to live underground for months because of the nightly attacks by the German, didn’t loose either, and the German lost the war anyway.

      Even though, most people still blame HA for initiating this war by kidnapping two Israeli soldiers from across the border, I still believe that Israel had planned for a war that same year on Lebanon. Israeli officials, on more than one occasion, stated that they had planned an attack on Lebanon. US Secretary of state encouraged the Israelis to fight on until they accomplish anything. But at the end Israel stopped because they knew they failed by any measure. Yes the kidnapping of the two soldiers was the excuse .But being a Lebanese who grow up on border town myself, I saw first hand ,as a young child, that Israel didn’t need an excuse to attack , infiltrate, and bomb south Lebanon. I’m talking about a time HA wasn’t even created, nor the Iranian revolution has taken place. I can go back to a time ,even, the PLO was not even created yet, and South Lebanon was under constant attacks, let alone the many massacres that Israel had done. The reason I’m going back in time is to highlight few facts that people in south Lebanon had to live with. My question is where was our Government then? No where to be seen. No army to defend, no Government to ensure the safety of its people. Basically, South Lebanon was abandoned by the Lebanese Government and by the international community all together.

      I wish we didn’t have to go through these wars. Wars are evil necessity. People in Lebanon ,and in the south in particular, want to live in peace like everyone else, but with dignity. I know you mentioned “Almahroumeen”, and now they get everyone by force. I disagree with you at all. People in the south need to be assured by their Government that they won’t be abandoned again .Even after the 2006 war, the Lebanese Government did little to help people rebuild. Our Government has to take control of its own territory, and have to take responsibility for its own people. They have to arm the Lebanese Army to defend its people and territory. Not the kind of conditional arming by the USA though. I Think I addressed that issue in my earlier posting

  54. Constantin Avatar
    Constantin

    Prophet,

    I appreciate the civilized tone of your postings, although politically I do not agree with you, but you seem somebody with whom there could be dialogue, unlike others here who do not know but to label others with names and insult them.

    I definitely do not consider the 2006 war a VICTORY to Lebanon: Why?

    Yes, Israel did not achieve its target, but that does not mean we WON. Having 1,200 mostly innocent people dead, without counting the injured and permanently handicapped, and have half of our country destroyed is NOT A VICTORY for me. Israel did not get what it aimed getting at a very very high cost that we had to pay…. for the nth time.

    I always gave credit to Hizbullah for the 2000 liberation and not committing atrocities against the people living under Israeli occupation. However, that era is finished and we want the government, army and police to take control of the South and of all Lebanon, not a bunch of militias who are funded, fed, paid and nurtured by a foreign entity, Iran. We do not want any militias anymore, the militias time has finished, we want to live normal lives like in any other country (occupied or not, like in Syria where they ahve occupied land, but no resistance).

    The only reason that Hizbullah is not giving up its arms, in my opinion, is to rob the government and force its will on it the way they see it, because without the arms they pretty damn know that their will won’t be accepted. The resistance alibi is just B.S. nobody is buying it any more.

    They always considered themselves “mahroumeen”, so now they are getting anything they want, by force, and for this reason they will not give their arms other than by another force.

  55. Constantin Avatar
    Constantin

    Prophet,

    I appreciate the civilized tone of your postings, although politically I do not agree with you, but you seem somebody with whom there could be dialogue, unlike others here who do not know but to label others with names and insult them.

    I definitely do not consider the 2006 war a VICTORY to Lebanon: Why?

    Yes, Israel did not achieve its target, but that does not mean we WON. Having 1,200 mostly innocent people dead, without counting the injured and permanently handicapped, and have half of our country destroyed is NOT A VICTORY for me. Israel did not get what it aimed getting at a very very high cost that we had to pay…. for the nth time.

    I always gave credit to Hizbullah for the 2000 liberation and not committing atrocities against the people living under Israeli occupation. However, that era is finished and we want the government, army and police to take control of the South and of all Lebanon, not a bunch of militias who are funded, fed, paid and nurtured by a foreign entity, Iran. We do not want any militias anymore, the militias time has finished, we want to live normal lives like in any other country (occupied or not, like in Syria where they ahve occupied land, but no resistance).

    The only reason that Hizbullah is not giving up its arms, in my opinion, is to rob the government and force its will on it the way they see it, because without the arms they pretty damn know that their will won’t be accepted. The resistance alibi is just B.S. nobody is buying it any more.

    They always considered themselves “mahroumeen”, so now they are getting anything they want, by force, and for this reason they will not give their arms other than by another force.

  56. The Jewish in USA are rich and powerful and their lobbyist can dictate on the congress anything they want. Unfortunately the gulf money is not well managed to overcome the Jewish lobbyist instead they divert their money on buying toys and women. I do blame the big oil gulf country for allowing this

    1. Sandman Avatar

      Amin,

      Truly, the rich Arabs are corrupt and useless. The whole Arab League is an impotent organization.

      The Arabs are always whining and crying and victimizing themselves. If you want something, then go and get it stop waiting for the rest of the world to come and save you.

    2. Sandman Avatar

      Amin,

      Truly, the rich Arabs are corrupt and useless. The whole Arab League is an impotent organization.

      The Arabs are always whining and crying and victimizing themselves. If you want something, then go and get it stop waiting for the rest of the world to come and save you.

    3. Sandman Avatar

      Amin,

      Truly, the rich Arabs are corrupt and useless. The whole Arab League is an impotent organization.

      The Arabs are always whining and crying and victimizing themselves. If you want something, then go and get it stop waiting for the rest of the world to come and save you.

  57. The Jewish in USA are rich and powerful and their lobbyist can dictate on the congress anything they want. Unfortunately the gulf money is not well managed to overcome the Jewish lobbyist instead they divert their money on buying toys and women. I do blame the big oil gulf country for allowing this

  58. The Jewish in USA are rich and powerful and their lobbyist can dictate on the congress anything they want. Unfortunately the gulf money is not well managed to overcome the Jewish lobbyist instead they divert their money on buying toys and women. I do blame the big oil gulf country for allowing this

  59. The Jewish in USA are rich and powerful and their lobbyist can dictate on the congress anything they want. Unfortunately the gulf money is not well managed to overcome the Jewish lobbyist instead they divert their money on buying toys and women. I do blame the big oil gulf country for allowing this

  60. ya mr murr what get you out of your gage early to give us all this crap go back to sleep yes arms the army and they can split up and destory lebanon well and i don;t know what upset you all this comes as donation you never pay for anything stupid person go back to sleep you want to defeat irasel few fateh el islam took you over 3 month to get ride of them go have you babe milk

  61. ya mr murr what get you out of your gage early to give us all this crap go back to sleep yes arms the army and they can split up and destory lebanon well and i don;t know what upset you all this comes as donation you never pay for anything stupid person go back to sleep you want to defeat irasel few fateh el islam took you over 3 month to get ride of them go have you babe milk

  62. ya mr murr what get you out of your gage early to give us all this crap go back to sleep yes arms the army and they can split up and destory lebanon well and i don;t know what upset you all this comes as donation you never pay for anything stupid person go back to sleep you want to defeat irasel few fateh el islam took you over 3 month to get ride of them go have you babe milk

  63. ya mr murr what get you out of your gage early to give us all this crap go back to sleep yes arms the army and they can split up and destory lebanon well and i don;t know what upset you all this comes as donation you never pay for anything stupid person go back to sleep you want to defeat irasel few fateh el islam took you over 3 month to get ride of them go have you babe milk

  64. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Saudis and Qatar are so loving to Lebanon and they try go support while they don’t assist in providing funds to build our army rather setting hospitals and schools etc… We need to secure our borders before we build the inside.

    1. I’m all for defending the borders. But before you protect your borders, it helps if you check were the borders are. If you attack your neighbor because you think he is in your side of the border when he is not, you risk starting another war after which the real border may move closer to you.

      1. prophet Avatar

        The Lebanese borders are well known. It’s all about the BLUE line that the UN drew in 2000. Lebanese reservation about that line are well documented by the UN, and there was an agreement that both side won’t enter these area. So there are areas that Lebanon claims as part of its territory. There are Areas that had been for years planted by Lebanese villagers, yet they are within the Blue line. My question to you George is this :If an Israeli military plane was shot down over the skies of Lebanon, would you be asking us where our areal borders are? Would you be finding an excuse not to support your country in defending its territory or airspace, while you still claim that you are for defending the border? Get Real Please.

      2. prophet Avatar

        The Lebanese borders are well known. It’s all about the BLUE line that the UN drew in 2000. Lebanese reservation about that line are well documented by the UN, and there was an agreement that both side won’t enter these area. So there are areas that Lebanon claims as part of its territory. There are Areas that had been for years planted by Lebanese villagers, yet they are within the Blue line. My question to you George is this :If an Israeli military plane was shot down over the skies of Lebanon, would you be asking us where our areal borders are? Would you be finding an excuse not to support your country in defending its territory or airspace, while you still claim that you are for defending the border? Get Real Please.

      3. prophet Avatar

        The Lebanese borders are well known. It’s all about the BLUE line that the UN drew in 2000. Lebanese reservation about that line are well documented by the UN, and there was an agreement that both side won’t enter these area. So there are areas that Lebanon claims as part of its territory. There are Areas that had been for years planted by Lebanese villagers, yet they are within the Blue line. My question to you George is this :If an Israeli military plane was shot down over the skies of Lebanon, would you be asking us where our areal borders are? Would you be finding an excuse not to support your country in defending its territory or airspace, while you still claim that you are for defending the border? Get Real Please.

      4. prophet Avatar

        The Lebanese borders are well known. It’s all about the BLUE line that the UN drew in 2000. Lebanese reservation about that line are well documented by the UN, and there was an agreement that both side won’t enter these area. So there are areas that Lebanon claims as part of its territory. There are Areas that had been for years planted by Lebanese villagers, yet they are within the Blue line. My question to you George is this :If an Israeli military plane was shot down over the skies of Lebanon, would you be asking us where our areal borders are? Would you be finding an excuse not to support your country in defending its territory or airspace, while you still claim that you are for defending the border? Get Real Please.

    2. I’m all for defending the borders. But before you protect your borders, it helps if you check were the borders are. If you attack your neighbor because you think he is in your side of the border when he is not, you risk starting another war after which the real border may move closer to you.

    3. I’m all for defending the borders. But before you protect your borders, it helps if you check were the borders are. If you attack your neighbor because you think he is in your side of the border when he is not, you risk starting another war after which the real border may move closer to you.

  65. Wake up ya loubnan - Tony Frei Avatar
    Wake up ya loubnan – Tony Frei

    Saudis and Qatar are so loving to Lebanon and they try go support while they don’t assist in providing funds to build our army rather setting hospitals and schools etc… We need to secure our borders before we build the inside.

  66. If an Israeli plane is shot down above Lebanon, too bad. The crew knew the risks. I think those flights are a provocation, no less than the ships that try to break Gaza blockade to help the “starving” Gazans.

    On the other hand, The SC resolution 1701 also prohibits H/A to get more WMD’s from Iran. If Unifil doesn’t stop that, at least Israel wants to know were those weapons are going.

    1. prophet Avatar

      Sorry GEORGE, you avoided the question.You didn’t want to adress the right to defend our airspace or water.You keep telling me about UN resolutions. Do you know how many UN resolutions Israel has ignored? why do you exepect Lebanon to respect Un resolutions when Israel does not?What has the UN done to protect Lebanon, WE ALL SAW THE WHITE FLAG BEING WAVED THE OTHER DAY, Maybe you should live for few months in south Lebanon.

  67. If an Israeli plane is shot down above Lebanon, too bad. The crew knew the risks. I think those flights are a provocation, no less than the ships that try to break Gaza blockade to help the “starving” Gazans.

    On the other hand, The SC resolution 1701 also prohibits H/A to get more WMD’s from Iran. If Unifil doesn’t stop that, at least Israel wants to know were those weapons are going.

  68. If an Israeli plane is shot down above Lebanon, too bad. The crew knew the risks. I think those flights are a provocation, no less than the ships that try to break Gaza blockade to help the “starving” Gazans.

    On the other hand, The SC resolution 1701 also prohibits H/A to get more WMD’s from Iran. If Unifil doesn’t stop that, at least Israel wants to know were those weapons are going.

  69. george what about israel arming itself to the teeth. do you not see double standards in the 1701?

    ya3ni enough bollocks mate. israel has had lebanese prisoners and nothing goes against them.

    HA steals 2 prisoners and it cries like a hopeless prostitute to its pimp the USA.

    do you not think israel kidnapping the shepherds was to get HA to a fight?

    dont be naiive with your 1701 nonsense. its an unfair resolution and you know it.

    funny how the UNIFIL didnt notice israel going over the blue line when kidnapping the shepherds and it also sided with isreal with the tree incident.

    come on man brother george i know you’re smart. dont you work with NASA and you climbed up the highest peak somewhere?

    when 2+2 equals 0 theres something wrong with that equation braaaaazzzzaaaaaaaaaaaa

  70. tony do you know why those shepherds keep getting kidnapped have a guess they are all selling drugs to the other side of the fence man they are not shepherd but a drug dealers when the lebanese gov will control the boarder no one will be kiddnaped and by they way they have to pay tax for HA

  71. Anti-zio Avatar

    Come on Joey what about when the IDF took all those sheep, were they drug dealing sheep? come on man lets keep things realistic

  72. Anti-zio Avatar

    Come on Joey what about when the IDF took all those sheep, were they drug dealing sheep? come on man lets keep things realistic

  73. Anti-zio Avatar

    Come on Joey what about when the IDF took all those sheep, were they drug dealing sheep? come on man lets keep things realistic

  74. Anti-zio Avatar

    Come on Joey what about when the IDF took all those sheep, were they drug dealing sheep? come on man lets keep things realistic

  75. Anti-zio Avatar

    israel is trying hard to provoke a response from HA to justify an all out assault against lebanon without upsetting western public opinion.

  76. Anti-zio Avatar

    israel is trying hard to provoke a response from HA to justify an all out assault against lebanon without upsetting western public opinion.

  77. Anti-zio Avatar

    israel is trying hard to provoke a response from HA to justify an all out assault against lebanon without upsetting western public opinion.

  78. Anti-zio Avatar

    israel is trying hard to provoke a response from HA to justify an all out assault against lebanon without upsetting western public opinion.

  79. israel don;t care about western public opinion man and if they wan;t to do something the;ll do it iam not defending israel here iam just telling you most of them shepperd are drugs dealers

  80. israel don;t care about western public opinion man and if they wan;t to do something the;ll do it iam not defending israel here iam just telling you most of them shepperd are drugs dealers

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