88% of Israel’s female Knesset members have been sexually assaulted, harassed

ISRAELI  WOMEN KM SEXUALLY ASAULTEDAll but four of Israel’s current female Knesset members report they have experienced sexual harassment or sexual assault at some point in their lives — with two saying they experienced it even after entering the Knesset.

A survey of Israel’s 32 female lawmakers conducted by Israel’s Channel 2 found that 28 had been victimized, Haaretz reported Tuesday.

In a Channel 2 program that aired Sunday, female lawmakers from numerous parties shared their experiences with harassment and abuse.

Rachel Azaria of Kulanu said she had been repeatedly harassed while serving on the Jerusalem City Council’s planning and building committee.

“Another city councilor would make remarks of a sexual nature regarding things that I said, and the whole room would burst out laughing,” Azaria said. “I consulted with the legal adviser and other officials, and they all said there was nothing to be done. It interfered with my ability to function and I was very distressed.”

Senior Citizen Affairs Minister Gila Gamliel of Likud recalled unwanted touching on a bus when she was a soldier.

“To this day I’m sorry I didn’t complain because I could have prevented other incidents,” she said.

Michal Ben Ari of Kulanu said she had also been harassed while in the military, along with receiving unwanted comments even now.

“Even today, the fact that I’m a single woman in the Knesset puts me in unpleasant situations,” she said. “Sometimes people make comments. … I don’t want to elaborate, but there was a situation recently in the Knesset and I took care of it.”

Ksenia Svetlova of Zionist Union said that when she was a teen and newly arrived from the former Soviet Union, “there was a period when I could hardly go out into the street because of the harassment. Sometimes they would touch my hair and come at me with sexual suggestions. At a certain point I dyed my hair brown so they’d stop touching me, so I’d stand out less. It was a combination of chauvinism and racism.”

Sharren Haskel of Likud reported being sexually assaulted by an adult when she was a child.

Zionist Union’s Revital Swid said, “There’s not one woman who hasn’t been attacked sexually, and not just once either. In the beginning it paralyzes and shocks. It’s amazing, you just don’t know how to deal with it.”

Swid, a criminal defense attorney, said she was often harassed early in her career, “when police officers thought they could come on to me.”

Women make up 27 percent of Israel’s 120-member Knesset. The Zionist Union has nine female members, the most of any party, and Likud has seven. Only four of the 32 ministries are headed by women.

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  • 5thDrawer

    I think it’s time, YaLIbnan, to separate ‘Art’ from ‘Culture’ in the Column Heading … unless, I suppose, you really feel it’s a great Artistic effort to harass females … generally speaking.

    • Hind Abyad

      So YaLibnan knows no one is interested in this “Art” Column here
      Even ex-Israeli president Moshe Katzav is in jail for rape.
      If you read the Talmud you would understand what created anti-Semitism in Europe’s firsts centuries.
      http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/former-president-moshe-katsav-gets-7-years-in-jail-for-rape-1.351092

      • 5thDrawer

        I consider the line of thinking of some of them, that believes the Talmud came before the Universe – born in God’s tummy … hmmm … while the other ‘side’ thinks it more logical to say it appeared just the moment after creation. Apparently they still argue this.
        No wonder some can’t get up to speed on how to treat the modern women. :-))

        • Hind Abyad

          The Talmud was by the Pharisee in Christ’s time.

          Matt 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.”

          Matt 15:14 “They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”

        • Y K

          Half-literate Arabs are all great experts on the Talmud, without exception. Seems like it’s their favorite book. Speaking from experience here, mate.

          • Hind Abyad
          • 5thDrawer

            Some day, the guy who cornered the market on black cloth will die and/or refuse to make the long suits and hijabs all the weird people wear. 😉
            As for these ones, having done nothing else in a lifetime except harass tourists during the day, and bonk the heads on a wall seeking atonement for that at night, being able to replace the rags will become impossible, and there will need to be some new rules written about length of fuzzy beards, or the dreadlocks of those bent in that way.
            Probably the hijab-wearers will just switch to the purple-cloth supplier, being more wise.

          • 5thDrawer

            … and no-one is arguing this is a sick brain … the need to do justice is what’s wanted.
            https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-refuses-extradite-accused-sex-offender-australia/

          • Y K

            Yep. More action by Arab Talmud researches is required ASAP, mate! Thank goodness Ya Libnan has its resident experts always ready to intervene!

          • 5thDrawer

            We highlight them all, anywhere. Just for folks like you. :-)))

          • Y K

            Nah. Most of your kind are too dumb to “highlight” anything. You actually stand out as one of the smarter ones of the bunch. Too bad the highlights often get lost in a sea of verbosity, otherwise known as verbal diarrhea.

          • Hind Abyad

            Nahhh real jooz are scared of the overwelming Zionist Fascist moron majority.
            Haha..look at Jerusalem morons
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGrOZb3WpBU

          • Hind Abyad

            “Paris Private Clubs and Pricey Ski Trips, Investigation Reveals Ties Between French Criminal and Netanyahu

            Arnaud Mimran is under investigation for theft, kidnapping and extortion. He was also a close friend and donor of Benjamin Netanyahu’s for years, underwriting the Israeli leader’s family vacations and hosting him in private clubs, according to a joint investigation of Haaretz and the French website Mediapart.”

          • Y K

            Didn’t you whine about your ardent desire to end our not particularly fruitful relationship, my hateful Medusa? 🙂

          • Hind Abyad

            Your verbal diarrhea.. still polluting, spamming on this site with your NeoNazi trolls.

          • Y K

            Gosh, what did all those guys who dumped you need to do to actually get rid of you? Did they poison your cat? Because you know, I can’t do that, being an animal lover and a pacifist. 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            Unfortunately that’s not the case you & Neo Nazi comrades are obsessed with me..
            Y K = NATO lover;))

          • 5thDrawer

            (personally, I think it’s because you are just too cute … but that’s me …)

          • Hind Abyad

            Very witty..hum..and funny.

            “Israel’s smartest student is an Arab.”
            http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/06/sat-best-score-israel-arab-high-school-integration-technion.html?utm_

            As for “half literate Arabs”, it’s not the case of Palestinian Arabs.
            In the 20thies they were the most progressive and educated in the Middle East that’s why KSA were afraid of them, women in Lebanon would cross to work for rich Palestinian families. Bashir Gemayel father went to Haifa to study at Collège Saint Joseph, in French.

          • Y K

            She is smashing indeed, buddy. I’m crazy about mustachioed women! As are a lot of men I know. 🙂

          • 5thDrawer

            I suppose the gay guys have sporty moustaches.

          • Y K

            Dunno. I am not a fan of facial hair on gals and guys in almost equal measure. Unless, of course, the guy was born in the 19th century. Do you have a moustache?

          • Y K

            You’re confusing people calling you an idiot with them being obsessed with you. Well, you are an idiot, after all.

            “NATO lover”? Not that I have anything against NATO, but I prefer women.

          • Hind Abyad
          • Hind Abyad

            This si what Einstein prophetized

          • Hind Abyad
          • Y K

            Michael Hoffman may be a disgusting Nazi nutbag (not unlike you, just marginally more successful), but he’s certainly not an Arab. My guess is that he sees them, at best, purely as cannon fodder against the Jooz.

          • Hind Abyad

            “Israel’s smartest student is an Arab.”

          • Y K

            He’s certainly incomparably smarter than you are. Which is why he’s busy doing some actual studying, as opposed to posting crap on the internet.

      • 5thDrawer

        If you read the Nag Hammadi, we see that ‘The Powers’ knew Eve must have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge, because when they wanted to rape her (and also her more pure daughter) she managed to avoid them and ran away. ;-))

    • Omega

      Are you suggesting stories and events like this one should be hidden?

      • 5thDrawer

        Not at all … reporting events is part of the teaching process.
        I’m simply thinking they should set column headings apart, and separate the ‘Culture’, which dictates curiosities of tribal gatherings (and various depravities of them), from the individual ‘Art’ endeavours, generally being freedoms of thought which are found in the expressions of the souls.
        Each heading has many divisions within it … but it’s important to know the difference.
        (Publishing Space not withstanding….)

        • Hind Abyad

          Resistance! Resilience! New map Syrian entered Raqqah province for the first time since 2014 and advances towards ISIS-@CIA “capital” Raqqa.

        • Hind Abyad
          • 5thDrawer

            Dates running in reverse makes it a little complicated … the various divisions doing attacks is only part of the confusion. Seems there IS advance, at least.
            Not much of those lands left open and naturally free, is there. Buildings or the rubble cover most of it … with farms (and oil-fileds) tucked in between.

          • Hind Abyad

            It’s a huge task better fight in the desert than in cities.
            The confusion is US (controlled by big money) asking Russia not to target Al Nusra..what hypocrisy.

          • 5thDrawer

            That is the basic idea of ‘Siege’ … surround the enemy, cut off supplies, and starve them to the point where entering the city becomes much easier, if they don’t surrender first.
            IF they decide to surrender, it’s the ‘winner’s choice’ of what to do with them.
            Some great conquerors killed very few, and enjoyed a larger following for that after.
            ISISies may be the first in history to kill anything that looks or moves the wrong way, eliminates their own farmers and support citizens, and even their own members who become ‘suspects’, while assuming they can always be re-supplied by sales of stolen things like houses, artifacts, oil, and great You-Tube movies of blood-letting.
            Sort of a ‘New World Human Species’ with a very ancient theme.

          • Hind Abyad

            Killing in cold blood like in a stupid video game is the most unbelievable degenerated, most coward, that bring shame on US, no wonder they can’t be trusted in Irak, Syria..
            a wikileak video in Iraq 2010.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeGaJMR80-g

          • Hind Abyad
  • 5thDrawer

    OH, WHERE ARE ALL THE LADIES ON THESE STORIES???

  • Omega

    Why aren’t the hasbara trolls commenting?

    • Hind Abyad

      It’s Shabat.

      • Omega

        That explains the strange silence around here.

        The worst part is that they actually pretend to be Jewish.

        • Y K

          Tell us more about the Jooz, moron. Then Princess Dumbyad can join in.

          • Omega

            Why do you entitle yourself to speak for the “us”? What would you like to know, moron?

          • Rudy1947

            The calculation of PI to the final digit.

          • Hind Abyad

            It’s Lebanon final digit.

          • 5thDrawer

            Feels a bit like ‘La Marseillaise’ …. 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            I like the one that followed it ;-))
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YP5e8P_oPg

          • Hind Abyad

            ..very vulgar, at times

          • 5thDrawer

            … only in appreciation of God’s Art ;-))

          • Hind Abyad

            It was created in French mandate 1927, at school we sang it every morning.

          • 5thDrawer

            Wonder if they sing it now in schools ….

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t thing so..that was when i started school at 6.

          • 5thDrawer

            My friends can’t even get their 7-yr-old orphan into a school … $$$ 🙁

          • Hind Abyad

            How things are changed:(

          • Hind Abyad

            The origine of la Marseillaise
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9UIIlutkxg

          • Rudy1947

            Did Lebanon lose the other 19 digits?

          • Omega

            Are you pretending to know anything about math?

          • Y K

            Do you? Your intellectual prowess is intimidating, bro.

          • Omega

            1+1=2?

            Otherwise yes, a thing or two.

          • Y K

            “Why do you entitle yourself to speak for the “us”?”

            No particular reason, buddy. Just feel like it.

            “What would you like to know, moron?”

            I’d like to drink from your fountain of infinite wisdom. As you seem to be a world-class expert on the Jooz, do feel free to share more of your knowledge on the subject. Both generally and particularly on the distinction between “real” and “pretend” Jooz which you seemed to make above.

          • Omega

            -> No particular reason, buddy. Just feel like it.

            Wonderful.

            -> I’d like to drink from your fountain of infinite wisdom. As you seem to be a world-class expert on the Jooz, among many other things, do feel free to share more of your knowledge on the subject. Both generally and particularly on the distinction between “real” and “pretend” Jooz which you seemed to make above.

            Real Jews = Judaic = Judaism

            Fake Jews = Zionism = Israel

            1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.

            2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah-centered understanding of our peoplehood with an armed materialism.

            http://www.truetorahjews.org/mission

          • Y K

            How many of those “True Torah” nutbag clowns have you met? (It’s a rhetorical question, buddy, no need to answer).

            Half-literate Arabs’ obsession with identifying “real vs. fake Jews” represents an interesting (and fairly new) twist of their generally idiotic worldview (the founding pillars of which are ignorance, victim mentality and conspiracism – with the rabid Jew-hatred as just one of the latter’s manifestations). Of course, nobody would bother with identifying “real vs. fake” Arabs. Because, you know, there’s no way or reason to deny that the (prevailing) idiocy is very real.

          • Omega

            How many of those “True Torah” nutbag clowns have you met?

            Interesting to see how you and others like you (Zionists) call true Jews by “nutbag” (that exact word). Why not call them “anti-semitic” while you’re at it?

            (It’s a rhetorical question, buddy, no need to answer).

            Many.

            Half-literate Arabs’ obsession with identifying “real vs. fake Jews”

            Arab or I are not identifying real vs fake Jews – according to Judaism and Judaic teachings, Israel is not Jews’ Promised Land. The Slavic/European bunch who adopted Judaism and who came to Palestine to steal and kill have no ties to the land.

            (the founding pillars of which are ignorance, victim mentality and conspiracism – with the rabid Jew-hatred as just one of the latter’s manifestations).

            Ignorance – said the one who doesn’t know his own religion. You win bronze.

            Victim mentality – hard to beat the Ashkenazis when it comes to that. You win silver.

            hatred – said the one who constantly write “hals-literate arabs”. You win gold.

            Of course, nobody would bother with identifying “real vs. fake” Arabs.

            Arabs don’t suffer from an identity crisis.

            ps – the first Jews were Arabs from Mizraim, Yemen.

          • Y K

            Yawn. Did I tell you about your borderline touching (in its stupidity) earnestness? I think I did. Loved your PS, though (“Mizraim, Yemen” – is it like Albeny, NY? :-)).
            P.S. Your “many” answer is proof of a very non-Jewish chutzpah. Hard to beat that one.

          • Omega

            Notice how you turn, evade, divert every time with non-sensical replies?

          • Y K

            Evading? Diverting? Call me what you want, mate, but I remain squarely focused on the subject. Which is the abysmal idiocy prevailing throughout the Arab world (even – and especially – among its “educated” classes), and of which you are a prime example.

          • Omega

            If saying absolutely nothing by resorting to “half-literate arabs”, acting arrogant, negating articles backed up with detailed facts, evidence and bibliographies is being “squarely focused” then you are indeed, squarely focused “mate”.

          • Hind Abyad

            Said the chief evading Y K, the abysmal idiocy prevails..

          • Y K

            Can’t you blame anyone for trying to evade you? 🙂

          • Y K

            Sorry, buddy, missed that pinnacle of hilarity:

            “Arabs don’t suffer from an identity crisis.”
            This one has to be savored, like good wine. I wonder what you were thinking when you were writing this one. Honest to god, mate, not a rhetorical question.

          • Omega

            Correct, Arabs are Arabs. What part don’t you get?

          • Y K

            Oui, my friend, they are. And morons are morons. Sadly, you’re one of them.

          • Omega

            I read a “oui”? – ahh le con qui prétend parler autre chose que l’anglais. Le Yiddish peut-être?

            There is absolutely nothing wrong in being an Arab. Quit being such a bigoted racist. Prior to IsraHell’s (illegitimate) creation, the Jews in Palestine were Palestinian Jews as in Arab Jews.

          • Y K

            “I read a ‘oui’? – ahh le con qui prétend parler autre chose que l’anglais.”

            Tu crois vraiment que quelqu’un pourrait vouloir t’impressioner, mon pote crétin (même pas particulièrement) savant? Mais sincèrement?

            “There is absolutely nothing wrong in being an Arab.” As opposed to being a “Resistance” enthusiast. Which also kinda presupposes an advanced level of idiocy.

          • Omega

            Tu crois vraiment que quelqu’un pourrait vouloir t’impressioner, mon pote crétin (même pas particulièrement) savant? Mais sincèrement?

            (laughing) – what?

            That “French” is as crooked as IsraHell’s legitimacy. Who did you ask to write that? Google?

            Resistance

            What Resistance? Where did you read that in my comment?

          • Y K

            “Where did you read that in my comment?”

            I don’t really read your comments, mon pote débile. I can see right through you – and through the empty space where a brain is supposed to be.

          • Omega

            Pretentious and a liar; I see.

            Work on that French, you can do it.

          • 5thDrawer

            Yes, obviously there are many many more who follow Torah words than follow the Zionist slant on them … but I doubt it will bring any ‘believer’ of either to reconcile with Jesus. 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            Sometimes, an exception …. an inconsistency.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu4BaZyweuE

          • Hind Abyad

            Some “real Jooz” are entitled. Spammer 1

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QiV9xn0RbI

          • Y K

            Who is Number 2?

          • Hind Abyad

            Not of your concern.

          • Y K

            Now you’ve really managed to hurt my feelings, dumbissima. 🙁

          • Hind Abyad

            You entitle yourself to speak for us just because you feel like it?
            Hezbollah expands military operations along the Lebanese-Syrian border.

            https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/hezbollah-expands-military-operations-along-lebanese-syrian-border/ | Al-Masdar News

          • Y K

            I entitle myself to say you are a moron. And a pretty repulsive one to boot.

          • Hind Abyad

            Who cares?

          • Y K

            You do, my mental patient Muse, you do.

          • Hind Abyad

            You wish..ego does.. YKrap

          • Oh Yaeh

            I have just now asked Rabbi Shaul to explain to Omega who/what is a Jew.

            If a Rabbi is doing it, he will be obliged to take it as a correct description of Jews and Judaism – am I wrong?

            As far as I know, the only one that practicing evangelism are Christians and Muslims.

            As far as I know, it is quite complicated and some extence painful to convert to Judaism.
            http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA7kURXnzU

          • Hind Abyad

            “Jooz, moron. Then Princess Dumbyad can join in” ..i joined in your dogs spammer 1

  • Rabbi Shaul

    If Israel is going to be the Light to the Nations as “the Creator” commanded – then Israel needs to come back to show their Torah Observant Messiah they can live up to the standards set for them by the Creator Himself on Mt Sinai and stop following in the ways that go against the Creator.

    We have enough biblical history to show us the ways of right and wrong and the way to return so what are we waiting for. Are we that egocentric, prideful, vain and stubborn that we can not just RETURN?

    Until then – Israel unfortunately only needs to keep sending ONE BAD message to the world out of every 100 good messages, to be discounted as worthy of True respect. Is that wrong to hold Israel to that High a Standard.

    The answer is NO because our creator has told us how to do it and what Blessings we get when we do it and because when we Love our Creator as commanded, He makes sure to help us do it. We do not have to do it alone.

    Had the Second Temple been cherished by the people way back when and Torah been the Word of the Day Every Day and Israel repented and done what they were supposed to do that the Creator told them to do – we would not have the problems we do today.

    You may think this very naive – but that is the difference between Loving the Creator and Keeping His Commandments and disobeying the Creator thinking we can do it all on our own.

    It is only by the creators Grace, Mercy, Forgiveness and desire for us to return to the Creator so we can be blessed beyond our wildest dreams and know that our enemies are the Creators concern, will there ever be True Peace for the True Children of Israel.

    • Hind Abyad

      Thank you Rabbi..good luck with the ancient Huns Khazar.

      • Rabbi Shaul

        I will have to look up Huns Khazar since I know nothing of this person or topic. But thank you also for your reply.

        Yalibnan is one of the Middle East News Papers I read on a daily basis that helps me know the things the US media do not want to tell us about.

        Be well.

        • 5thDrawer

          Just drop ‘Huns Khazar’ into your Yahoo search engine … you’ll find the variety, Rabbi.
          Education is an on-going battle through a lifetime.
          This is technically a ‘Blog’ – which is a collection of news stories – leaving us to comment on them, or as you may have noted, have verbal shooting matches over.
          Apologies for the affronted eyes. 😉
          You are right about ‘the people’ who do not heed ‘the good words’ – whether written by Man or God. The ability to be humble in the face of Nature seems to have disappeared.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            I have already looked up Huns Khazar and realized why I do not remember it. It means little to me because the reference points are too modern when it comes to the Subject of Israel. It is good history to add to my knowledge base though.

            I will not engage anyone on this subject because the Bible History does not appear to be part of the Conversation. Not that the person who wrote me had those intentions. This is just me being Biased.

          • 5thDrawer

            Being Biased is certainly allowed … it is perhaps the only reason humans survived on the planet to this point. The ‘trick’ of educating is to promote the following of a correct bias.
            And ‘Translation’ through history has been a problem.
            Plodding through ‘The Gnostic Gospels’ in English (I use the 2008 USA Edition OF the 2007 ‘The Nag Hammadi Scriptures’ International Edition) is an arduous task of ‘Scholars’ … however, the ‘Epilogue: Schools of Thought in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures’ is well worth the read, and explains in a modern language how the first ‘searches’ for the ‘One God’ come from Hermetic Egyptian ‘schools’ … and also how the use of words and their meanings take on different connotations in different cultures … ‘Gnostic’ and ‘Non-Gnostic’ are not conflicting terms to use when speaking, if one understands that ‘Gnosis’ means ‘Knowledge’. (Greek)
            Where it has taken on the ‘BAD’ connotation, is when someone added ‘ism’ to it, and then over 3000 years creating a ‘Bias’ against Gnosticism. There is a suggestion we create a new word …. How silly … just teach the real meaning, a scholar would say. 😉

          • Rabbi Shaul

            I have found that G-d does not force me to accept all those terms out there that mean nothing in the end, but rather teaches me what is correct.

            So, that tends to make people think I am uneducated at times, but as you said – it is that they do not understand what they are speaking is in error whether I know it or not.

            So, I plug along learning all the time, but not learning lies anymore, because I go to Daddy with everything that I feel needs to be addressed. Once dad guides me to the Truth of the Matter, I need not worry about what any man has to say.

            When I try to converse on subjects like the Theory of Evolution – I can error in my conversation over details because to lack of interest over time – but it is nice to follow every now and then the progress of those who contend that a Theory – even revised is somehow Fact.

            Here is a perfect example of my oximoron – I say – I do not care what people think and that sounds so horrible to others, but in truth I do not care if they hate me or disrespect me or or or but I do care what people think about themselves, their neighbors and G-d.

            So, I have fun a lot of times and I tell people that I KNOW EVERYTHING and then I wait a few seconds to see their reactions which are always what I expect and then I say – you did not let me finish and then I say – I know everything G-d has taught me. Then people relax once more even if they do not believe in G-d. So, I play arrogance and all those evil traits in one sentence just to loosen people up. I can only really do that in person and with people I have deemed ready for such a comment.

            I will check out the Nag to see what I come away with.

            thank you once again

            Shalom

          • Oh Yaeh

            Perhaps you as a Jewish Rabbi care to explain to “Omega” if Jews are a homogenous group.

            It must come from a Jew, otherwise he claims that I’m just. twisting things.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            First of All – I am a Torah Observant Messianic Jewish Believer in Messiah – The one that came already and who will come again and who inspired the NT. Just to be clear.

            If you are referring to the Alpha and the Omega – then you need to know that in Hebrew it is the Aleph – meaning the letter “A” and the “Tau” – meaning the letter “T”.

            They are the first and last letters of the Hebrew Alphabet – Just like A & Z in english and the Alpha and Omega in Greek.

            In Hebrew the Aleph stands for Ox, Bull, Strength, G-d
            The Tau stands for Sign, Covenant

            I am the first and the last
            I am the beginning and the End
            I am G-d and I am the sign of the covenant
            I am the Aleph and the Tau in Hebrew – makes more sense in Hebrew
            Has no real substance in Greek, Latin or English

            I am the Alpha and the Omega in Greek.

            Is this what you were talking about or something else. If so, please be more exacting in your question.

          • Oh Yaeh

            Thanks for your comment.
            The signature “Omega” have a obsession with identifying “real vs. fake Jews”.

            “- Messianic Jews are lost Jews who retrofitted elements of Judaism and Christianity.”
            …and
            “Real Jews = Judaic = Judaism
            Fake Jews = Zionism = Israel”.

            He want us to believe that he knows best – the first Jews were Arabs from Mizraim, Yemen….

            When I remarked that he use the terminology “IsraHell”, he start with the claims that the only real Jews are the “True Torah Jews” – they are against Zionism.
            …”Real Jews = Judaic = Judaism
            Fake Jews = Zionism = Israel”.

            I’m quite confused now as he tries to thwart our (Europeans point of view) knowledge about Jews and Judaism.

            It is very popular to disparage Jews by claiming that the Huns Khazar that converted to Judaism (follow the leader) are the same Jews that today are occupying the Palestinian land.

            I find it hard to accept that our Jewish citizens are descended from the Khazars Hun and are not just the remnants of the Hebrew people.

            In the Italian language, you will not find the word “Jew ” in Italian they are called what they are “EBREI” = Hebrew people.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Let me just say that it is difficult to deal with all the different historical references that War against each other – so I will go to your last comment.

            Ebrei = Hebrew which means in Hebrew – Crossed over and is why in the OT Abraham is called a Hebrew.

            When we get to Christian teachings – we see as much Modern issues as you present in your post.

            So, I along with many others have to weed through the lies and deceptions to find the truth.

            When G-d wants us to find the truth – we do find it.

            All I can tell anyone is that I do not condemn anyone and here is the truth I have found and I believe it 100% because G-d has backed it up.

            If people think I am telling them anything other then MY EXPERIENCE – they are the ones who have issues and not I.

            So, even though I do not understand all that you said and have only started learning the Huns Khazar story – I look in Scripture and find many stories that can give insight as to how that particular story came about.

            But that is not the beginning or the end of the more improtant conversation which is about FINDING G-d. It can just get in the way and cause division and conflict when presented in anger for what ever reasons people have.

            Tag you are it

          • Oh Yaeh

            The reason why Abraham was called Ebrei = Hebrew is known for me in Hebrew – Crossed over and is why in the OT Abraham is called a Hebrew.

            Moreover, I know of Jacob, who is also known as Israel, his Hebrew name is spelled יַעֲקֹב.
            ישראל comes from Hebrew and means “one who defied God.”
            The word in Hebrew ישראל consists of two roots: the latter is called אל God, and the first contains the root ישר, which means “struggle” (wrestle) and then he was called Israel (= fought with God).

            Jacob’s twelve sons Reuben, Simon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, Benjamin, became known as the sons of Israel.

            I agree with you that it can just get in the way and cause division and conflict when presented in anger for whatever reasons people have.

            But that is the objective that the signature “Omega” has – to cause division and conflict. Disrespect for the name Israel. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46ceaf640b64a1bfdc8e4a13bed4851a91609276680f7320608317cec7f52f58.jpg

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Because I do not accept the Omega or any man made images including the Star of David for my personal walk with G-d, making me an equal opportunity nothingness – I did not consider or know that the Omega was used that way and only translated it from its’ use in scripture in the most passive of ways.

            However, now that you have made me aware of another stumbling block, I will gladly remember this too.

            Christians go nuts when I tell them I do not accept the Cross in any fashion along with any other man made images and that even my own Room has no paintings on it – just blank.

            So, when it comes to stumbling blocks – people have so many it gets sad.

            Thank you for sharing – I love gaining insight – but was confused for a bit with where you were going.

          • Oh Yeah

            Doron pointed out that you have not been seen for some time, “5th is also a fav. a decent man that never goes looking for trouble. Liked geo as well yet i dont see him around anymore”.

            Who is “geo”?

            Lets hope that you are well, and just have no desire to participate in the comments presently.

        • Hind Abyad

          Thank you.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            I have looked up the subject and find it very interesting. Thank you for sharing

          • Hind Abyad

            Look for Arthur Koestler a Hungarian Jew great author
            ‘The Thirteen Tribe’ if you like…

          • 5thDrawer

            (and everyone just KNOWS that 13 is an unlucky number … ;-)))

          • Hind Abyad

            When i was a child my father told me ‘all this because there were prophets here’..

          • Y K

            “When i was a child my father told me ‘all this because there were prophets here’.”

            Thanks for bringing your father (and his infinite wisdom) into the conversation. How about other members of your extended family? Aunts, uncles, third cousins, third cousins’ dogs?

          • 5thDrawer

            Dork …

          • Y K

            Sorry, mate. Never met her father, or any of her other relatives. But since I do believe that intelligence (just like mental disease) is hereditary, I’m sure they must have been real geniuses.

          • Hind Abyad

            I’m sorry i proposed the book, it’s contemporary history.
            I like your knowledge of the Bible very much..

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Do not be sorry because maybe what I pulled up on round one which was not the book, has too many opinionated errors in it even though the history I read is worthy of comparing with other history information and the Scriptures.

            So, do not be sorry because you are not harming me – actually, you are trying to give me the opportunity to add to my knowledge base.

            No matter what, I am still stuck here in the US and accept maybe 5% of all News I do read from US sources. I have found international sources so much more enlightning even though I have to put on my specially made G-d filters so I can see the truths of the matters.

            So, in short, I find the international news easier to sort through and compare and get to the truth of world matters.

            I have known for many years how my country has a horrible policy that gets us to be hated.

            Back in 1981 I had to do a special project for the oil companies and my trip took me to England to catch a flight to Tunisia. On the flight I sat next to the General Manager of the 5 star Hyatt in Quait. He was of Middle Eastern roots but had graduated Harvard. We talked about the US being the Ugly American and how we were hated all over the world. I was not naive, but it was great to discuss truth properly.

            Having lived in Israel in the early 60s as a child, I already had addition data most kids never get to know about the truth of the middle east.

            I tell a story about landing in Alexandria Egypt and because my trip was an emergency trip and I had not time to really pack – I was missing Shampoo and a Comb. So, I acquired some Egyptian money and asked where to go to get the items I wanted. We of course were staying at the very nice American Hilton I think and I had to walk to the stores which were not far but resembled an old west cowboy town as far as the dirt streets and the wooden buildings go.

            I did not speak Egyptian and I did not know the exchange rate – but I found one place and saw the Head and Shoulders graphics and paid for the shampoo with out caring if I was being treated properly – they did not have a brush or a comb, so they pointed to another building for me to go to. I went across the street and now it was sunset. I went into what I would call an open air auto parts store with a long counter and I faked combing my hair so the man would know what I wanted – he brought me out a comb and I asked how much and he raised his hand with all five fingers – I gave him a 5 pound Egyptian Dollar bill and he gave me 4.95 back. I was very curious now what the exchange rate was, but before I could do anything the man indicated that I needed to leave the area. I realized that the Imam was about to start the evening prayers from the tower and that the man did not want me to be caught in the wrong place at the wrong time being it was obvious I was an American and probably also that I was a Jew.

            When I got back to the Hotel I found out that the man had charged me 7 1/2 cents for the comb. He could have done what ever he wanted to but he showed he was Honest.

            I tell this story to everyone interested as part of a group of stories because it is important to understand that it is usually only the Radicals and the Governments of the world that choose evil and that 95% of the people of the world if allowed to would choose to live in peace with everyone else no matter how they believed.

            So, why would I not want to associate myself with people around the world who understand these matters even if they are passionate for one reason or another but are not truly hateful with evil intentions.

            I just was not made that way – even though there were times in my life when I could have done some really bad things that entered my mind justified or not.

            I truly love G-ds creation ( except mosquitoes ) and would never hate anyone, even those who hate me. I know why? And if anyone has a right to hate, I can stand up and explain why I have a right to hate – but I am not allowed to hate – only cry for those who do hate.

            Thank you

          • 5thDrawer

            I will not tell you about Canadian Mosquitoes … :-))) But we concur on the ‘feelings’.
            I have had similar experiences in places beyond my country … as well as poor experiences in it. I’m sure others have – we do on occasion hear a good ‘human spirit’ story.
            I am SURE there are more good ones than bad … But ‘News’ wants the sensational, especially when it drives that ‘slant’ toward Fear, where it is not a purpose to educate, but to control.
            Some of us become tired of the attempts to control.

          • 5thDrawer

            A story to add to the collection …
            I am in Beirut Airport with no Lebanese money, or American, because my Host for a week said ‘You’re Welcome’, which properly translated means “I will not allow you to pay for anything or be taken to a bank to get some cash, because you are my guest.”
            I desperately want a Last good coffee before getting on the plane, and head for the coffee counter, managed at that time in history by a young boy and his father … who, seeing me fish out the still full credit card, tells me he is not allowed to take credit cards … AS he makes the coffee. Embarrassing, a little, yes … I explain I have no cash.
            We look at each other … and he pushes the coffee toward me anyway. ‘Take it. You’re Welcome’ (not a happy face…)
            SO, I fished out two useless but shining Canadian ‘Looneys’ I had been carrying around … and handed them to the boy, who’s eyes lit up. He bit on one to see if it was gold, but happily stuck them in his pocket anyway. :-))))
            And there were then 3 smiling faces. It WAS a good coffee.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Back in the summer of 1971 between my first and second year of college, I hitch hiked through eastern Canada. It was the year Prime Minister Trudeau told the Kids of Canada to go see their country. It was an awesome summer and I fell in love with the Canadians I came in contact with and have many stories I tell about that summer.

            But the most profound thing that happened to me was when I went to the Local libraries to see the free movies and I saw the movie “parable of the ping pong ball”.

            You may not be as OLD as I am Cronologically or you might – but I fell in love with Candians even though every store window had a poster of Uncle Sam with the third finger standing alone in the air and the political side of Canada was definitely not Pro US but the people treated me a US citizen with all the Love I needed from them. So, I have warm memories of Canada and do not care what others think. It is the people who make the real difference.

            Also – G-d has always been doing these kind of things for me even when I did not know to give G-d the credit for them. Now, I do and I look back on my one side horrible life and on the other side my great life not knowing G-d and the third side of my life where I know and Fear G-d.

            Blessings

          • 5thDrawer

            At 72, I could use a blessing. :-))) ‘Down Easters’ are great ‘down to earth’ people.

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Wow – FYI – I keep meeting women who are in their 70s and yes, I see the tell tale signs of aging but they are so young in every other way and carry themselves better then 50 year olds. I find myself in conflict because my mother died at 73 and also was like them.

            Why do I say this – because if I were ever going to find a wife again – they really impress me, but I have to get over the comparison to my mother at that age which was awesome also. That may be my one big character flaw in that I have not resolved the age thing and death.

            But – nice to know you are in an elite group of mature believers and ……. I do not have the words to really describe what I am thinking but it is heart warming.

          • 5thDrawer

            There’s a few of us left … Pension Plans hate us … I attend more funerals than weddings these days, and some were younger … realism tells us there will be moment, of course …
            AS for a ‘second’ one, no … but a 50-yr-old lover could be acceptable. :-))))
            Nice to have ‘the thoughts’ 😉

          • Rabbi Shaul

            I think G-d will chuckle when you tell him that and then ask you if it was worthy it.

            I try to tell people that my almost perfect Jewish mother martyr had only one flaw. She would say that if there is a G-d, he would be a woman. Since more then two of us have prayer for her salvation, I am sure when faced with the day that G-d honors our prayers – that she will understand that G-d is not really male or female but can reveal all those aspects to her and get her to come on board if He has not done so already.

            So, if my mother who for all other reasons other then biblical rules deserves to be in heaven and I will not let anyone tell me different – you are a piece of cake and G-d will put the court jesters hat on you for just one minute.

            As for the exchange – I am not afraid of it but my fate seems to be more in the direction of Messiah and the Apostles and the Prophets of the OT. I accept it – so I would ask G-d if the Pain I had to suffer really brought Him joy knowing I would not give in to the world cause if it were I – I would be more fleshy and ask for the biggest dose of morphine for the first time in my life – so I could witness the mutilation of my body but not feel it. I know, what fun would be in escaping the reality of it all.

            Blessings

          • 5thDrawer

            Perhaps He reads and chuckles already … ;-))

          • Rabbi Shaul

            Yup – if he knows our thoughts before we think them – then we are way behind.

          • Hind Abyad

            I love your stories and what you stand for. I hate mosquitoes too.:-)

          • 5thDrawer

            (I hope not all us Canuk ones …. ;-))

          • Hind Abyad

            I stopped going to the Laurentides mountains, i was covered all over with itchy red bloodsucker mosquitoes bites.

          • 5thDrawer

            You need to know a Canadian who goes camping in September … no bugs. 😉
            If you went in May, it was Black Flies … which Natives called ‘NoSeeUm’. :-)))

          • Hind Abyad

            ‘NoSeeUm’ ? haha..

          • Rabbi Shaul

            I am glad you do – because as gregarious as I can be and as warm as I can be – I do keep to myself a lot and because I am truly biblically conservative, yet very capable of fitting in almost everywhere without compromising anything – I still find that when I have nothing to do of importance – I do not go out unless G-d wants me to be someplace for a divine appointment.

            So, it is not that I do not get out and do a lot of things – it is just that I would rather talk to people who are Cool in my book even if they do not believe as I do, but are civil and have a desire to improve their lives ( what ever that means ).

            The other night – at services I met some visitors who are part of an organization that have been promoting “Day of prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem”. I am not big on organized anythings but when I went to the site, I was wowed by the fact that they think this years event will have a participation rate of about 500 million people world wide.

            Now that floors me and lets me know that G-d is on the move, because if True and I kinda think it is – there are at least 17% of the worlds population in over 175 countries that support Israel from a biblical perspective. To me that is mind blowing.

            It also means these same people support peace the way G-d wants it. I can not be anything but impressed.

            Yes – I sit back and wonder if each and everyone of them understand the truth correctly – but the fact that they are heading in the right direction just reinforces my faith in G-d and what He is doing. I just hope there will be room for me in heaven because if there are that many getting their tickets to heaven – there might not be enough room for me or I might have to go the Standing Room only section and I just do not know if my feet will hold out.

            Joking aside – I have pondered for a very long time and based on the Word – how many of those that say they are believers are really going to be Saved in the End. I do not judge or condemn, but I do wonder. I felt that maybe only 10% were actually on the right track for a long time. But info like this makes me think a bit differently.

            Of Course nothing is impossible with G-d and I have a miracle in my life that lets me know nothing is impossible with G-d when it comes to my adult children.

            If you are in the middle east it must be dinner time so I will ASSUME it is time to let you go eat dinner .. Ha Ha – what an excuse I used to stop talking. You can hit me if you want. Bye