Twin Beirut Suicide Blasts Cause Panic, Bitterness

bir hassan bombing 1Two suicide bombers blew up their cars near an Iranian cultural center in Beirut on Wednesday, killing at least six people and wounding scores, including children in an orphanage, in the latest attack targeting Shiite areas in Lebanon.

An al-Qaida-linked group claimed responsibility for the bombings, saying they were retaliation for Hezbollah’s involvement in the Syrian war alongside President Bashar Assad’s forces. The Shiite militant organization is backed by Iran.

But the attack — like a dozen other similar bombings since July against Shiite areas of Lebanon — killed and wounded civilians. They included a dozen boys and girls living in a home for abandoned and orphaned children, said Dr. Hussam Bitar, a surgeon at Al-Zahraa hospital, where the youngsters were treated.

The blasts have embittered and angered residents, who say they are facing an unknown enemy seeking to kill them because of their faith.

“You can’t imagine this from somebody you live with, somebody who could be your neighbor,” Bitar said.

Bitar’s pants were stained with the blood of one of the orphaned girls who suffered shrapnel injuries. “She couldn’t even remember her name. Did the bomber think of that orphanage?” he asked.

The blast set cars and trees ablaze and shattered the windows of nearby buildings. Mangled metal hung from a smashed building that once held a pharmacy, a clothing shop and a well-known sweet shop, Gondoline. Blood and tattered clothes lay on the ground amid the charred remains of six cars.

“I thought it was an earthquake,” said Sam Hasna, a Lebanese-Canadian citizen and owner of the Gondoline. “Everything was on fire. The whole store had crashed down. I saw shattered people, shattered cars, and I collapsed.”

Hasna later discovered one employee was killed and another was in critical condition.

“I am trying to reserve the first ticket back to Canada,” said Hasna, who spent years building a life in Lebanon. “We tried, we tried, we tried.”

The bombings are causing panic, Bitar said. The Al-Zahra hospital recently tightened security, posting guards with assault rifles. He said jumpy guards nearly killed two men after the blast, fearing they were more suicide bombers.

In the hospital, Mariam Atweh, 21, watched over her husband Abdullah, 31, whose arm was mangled by shrapnel.

“They say they are Muslims, like us. But they treat us like the enemy. What are they doing?” she asked.

Nearby lay Hussein Hazouri, an 18-year-old university student with head wounds. “They say they are targeting one group (Hezbollah),” he said, “but they are targeting everybody.”

The Lebanese army said the bombers drove vehicles packed with explosives and mortar shells to maximize the damage.

The explosions seriously damaged the white facade of Iran’s cultural center, despite blast walls recently erected around the building. The state-run Lebanese news agency quoted the Iranian Embassy as saying no diplomats or workers were wounded. But one wounded man in the hospital said he was an Iranian Embassy worker.

The Abdullah Azzam Brigades said on its Twitter account that the “invasion of the Iranian cultural center” was in “retaliation for Iran’s party fighting along the criminal regime in Syria.”

It was referring to Hezbollah, which has been a staunch ally of Assad’s government. Hezbollah’s fighters have been instrumental in helping dislodge Syrian rebels from areas near the border with Lebanon.

The Abdullah Azzam Brigades said the attacks in Lebanon will continue until Hezbollah fighters withdraw from Syria and scores of detainees are released from Lebanese jails. It said Hezbollah will not “enjoy security in Lebanon until the people of Syria feel secure.”

The explosions came a few days after Prime Minister Tammam Salam formed a new cabinet to end almost 11 months of paralysis. He described Wednesday’s attack as “a message by forces of terrorism to continue in their plan to spread death in Lebanon.”

“We will respond to it with solidarity and our commitment to peace,” he said.

Two visiting U.S. senators, Tim Kaine of Virginia and Angus King of Maine, condemned the latest spillover of violence from Syria’s civil war. “We hope the formation of the government will build some trust that will enable the country” to combat terrorism, Kaine said.

Lebanese troops recently detained an alleged mastermind of similar attacks. Officials said he led them to several vehicles rigged with explosives.

One of the deadliest attacks occurred in November when two suicide attackers blew themselves outside the Iranian Embassy in Beirut, killing 23 people and wounding dozens. The Abdullah Azzam Brigades claimed responsibility.

The group’s leader was captured by Lebanese authorities in December. He died in custody later in the month.

Associated Press

  • MekensehParty

    Hmm, the Iranian cultural center after killing the Iranian cultural attache
    I wonder why this concentration on Iranian culture?

  • cook2half

    Terrorists on the loose again

  • IraniAngel

    twitter supports terrorism!!!!!

    • Hind Abyad

      Twitter denounce it!!!!!

      • 5thDrawer

        Twitter only collects money.

  • IraniAngel

    twitter supports terrorism!!!!!

    • Hind Abyad

      Twitter denounce it!!!!!

  • 5thDrawer

    “I am trying to reserve the first ticket back to Canada,” said Hasna, who spent years building a life in Lebanon. “We tried, we tried, we tried.”
    Something like barrel bombs …. and an orphanage? Finishing the job they do on children.

  • Leborigine

    Very sad situation, what a tragedy!
    I hope people can see why I want Lebanon to be a strong state with strong institutions. Like a strong army and a powerful police force, to stop these moffos from hurting Lebanese and especially children.
    HA is not the solution. They are the ones who got us into that mess. They just should have laid down their weapons and tried to help build the army. They certainly should not have got involved in syria either.
    Look at it this way, many Lebanese despise the syrians for their involvement in our affairs, how do you think they feel when we are getting involved in their affairs. The truth is that it is going to get worse and Lebanon, once again is being dragged in against its own will.

    • man-o-war

      “many Lebanese despise the syrians for their involvement in our affairs, how do you think they feel when we are getting involved in their affairs, turns out one of the cowards was Palestinian, not Syrian. It’s more about protecting their “religion” that they feel is under attack from the kuffar. How do they protect it? They protect it by attacking innocent civilians that have nothing to do with HA attacking rebel positions in Syria.

      • MekensehParty

        Right, Hezbollah’s precision strikes sniffs out only terrorist-rebels and kill only the rebels. Never the civilians, never the children…
        Just like the 10K rockets they sent on Israel in 2006, these rockets are so precise that if the target – Israeli forces, are out of range, the rocket drops itself into the wood or desert so as not to hurt civilians.
        Hezbollah is well known for fighting righteously!

        • The real lebanese

          HA is so righteous in fighting? Lol. They started the 2006 conflict in the first place.

          • dateam

            Hezbollah released the remains of two captured Israeli soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev,[1] in exchange for Palestine Liberation Front militant Samir Kuntar, who was convicted of murder in Israel and Mahir Kourani, Mohammad Surour, Hussain Sulaiman and Khadr Zaidan, four Hizbullah militants captured by Israel in the 2006 Lebanon war. Israel also returned the remains of about 200 Lebanese and Palestinian militants killed whose bodies had been brought to Israel and buried there. Eight of these were Hizbullah fighters killed in the recent war.[2]

            It has long been the general policy of Israel not to return to family for burial the remains of killed militants that had engaged in “hostile terrorist activity”.[3]

            The exchange deal was carried out in accordance with the Red Cross and UN observers.[4]

            Only one month earlier, on 1 June 2008, Israel released the Lebanese prisoner Nissim Nasser, in exchange for which Hezbollah handed over a box containing the remains of Israeli soldiers killed during the 2006 war.[5][6]

            In October 2007 Israel and Hizbullah agreed to exchange a civilian Hezbollah member captured in 2006 and the remains of two Hezbollah fighters killed in this war and brought to Israel for the remains of Gabriel Dwait, an Israeli resident who drowned and was washed ashore in Lebanon. The released prisoner was described as 50-year-old Hassan Naim Aqil, a former Hezbollah guerrilla who did not fight in the Second Lebanon War. Israel went to war over 2 kidnapped soldiers…..This is what happened at the end of it…..Majority of the bodies returned are not even shiite…….When Jordan signed a peace treaty with israel in 1994 they had over 250 prisoners in israeli jails…To this day they have never asked for them….Yes be a good arab and go fetch a stick.

        • man-o-war

          I never said that innocent civilians aren’t killed by HA attacks on Syrian rebels. How many car’s filled with explosives has HA driven into syrian towns and set off by suicide bombers?

          The rockets they sent into Israel did strike military targets, not many, but a few hit their mark. How many Israeli civilians were killed by the poorly guided rockets? Also, Israel with all their advanced weaponry hit many many civilian targets. They had some of the most sophisticated rockets in the world and still hit civilians, some knowingly.

          “Israel’s indiscriminate airstrikes, not Hezbollah’s shielding as claimed by Israeli officials, caused most of the approximately 900 civilian deaths in Lebanon during the July-August 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah” , the “anti-semite” HRW

          • MekensehParty

            The real question is:
            How many car’s filled with explosives has HA driven into Lebanese towns and set off by suicide bombers?

          • man-o-war

            Oh right, I forgot! HA is attacking itself to win over support for their actions in Syria. Do you also think 9/11 was an inside job?

          • MekensehParty

            don’t play coy,
            you know what I mean
            I’m not talking about the recent suicide attacks but all the suicide attacks carried by Hezbollah from 2004 till recently with Chatah

          • man-o-war

            Well, I’m sorry, but that wasn’t clear in your comment.
            I have no idea who committed those attacks. If you have some evidence that could help bring those responsible to justice you should submit it to the authorities. Otherwise, its all just conjecture.

          • MekensehParty

            You seem to have a very clear idea who committed today’s attacks and yet you present no evidence either…

          • man-o-war

            I know cowards committed this attack. Also, this attack was claimed by a group of murdering psychos. Were the attacks you’re referring to claimed by HA?

          • MekensehParty

            Right, Hassouna was going to come out and say: I just killed Hariri.
            Instead, he sent some videotape recorded by abu adass
            Who’s the coward again?

          • MekensehParty

            and a claim is still not evidence btw

          • MekensehParty

            and a claim is still not evidence btw

          • man-o-war

            I guess if he did it and didn’t claim it like these cold blooded killers, he is?

          • MekensehParty

            great, thank you!

          • MekensehParty

            There was no mark
            The rockets hizballah has are not precise weaponry, they’re just flying explosives with 0.5% chance of hitting an exact target. That’s the truth. Many fell inside Lebanon, that’s how imprecise they are.
            The volley of rockets shot by Hezbollah had one objective, create terror! Shot indiscriminately on civilians and military without distinction.
            I never said the Israelis were righteous in their response.
            I’m just saying that Hezbollah is not the saint you like to portray.

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually, the barrel-bombs they get Assad to use before they ‘gloriously-win’ a besieged town are more accurate than their rockets were.

          • man-o-war

            I didn’t portray them as saints, you’re just making things up now. I’ve repeatedly said they should have never gotten involved in Syria.

            How do you know so much about katusha rockets and their accuracy? Just curious, because I don’t know much about them. Just that they’re very inaccurate and very cheap.

          • MekensehParty

            your words: “[…] that have nothing to do with HA attacking rebel positions in Syria”
            you want people to believe that Hezbollah only attacks rebel positions while we all know how indiscriminate Hezbollah is in all their wars and bombings…
            so, weren’t you trying to say that Hezbollah are saints by targeting rebels ONLY?
            As for Katyusha, they function through the simple law of propellant. No stability during firing, no accuracy, no specific targets. Just transporting a load of explosives as far as possible. Therefore they’re cheap and easily made since no extraordinary technology is involved in their assembly. Anybody with some basic rocketry knowledge and explosives handling can put together a Katyusha rocket and fire it from his/her garden.

          • man-o-war

            No, I wasn’t trying to say they’re saints by targeting rebels ONLY. When the rebels are fighting from building to building that still have families living in them, innocent civilians are going to be caught in the crossfire. What I meant by it, was they weren’t driving explosive laden SUV’s into a busy market place (Iraq style). They are fighting on the battlefield against an armed insurgency.

            Are you ex-military?

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes, IDF with blood on his hands.

          • MekensehParty

            your words: “[…] that have nothing to do with HA attacking rebel positions in Syria”
            you want people to believe that Hezbollah only attacks rebel positions while we all know how indiscriminate Hezbollah is in all their wars and bombings…
            so, weren’t you trying to say that Hezbollah are saints by targeting rebels ONLY?
            As for Katyusha, they function through the simple law of propellant. No stability during firing, no accuracy, no specific targets. Just transporting a load of explosives as far as possible. Therefore they’re cheap and easily made since no extraordinary technology is involved in their assembly. Anybody with some basic rocketry knowledge and explosives handling can put together a Katyusha rocket and fire it from his/her garden.

          • doron

            HA’s kidnapping of IDF soldiers is what brought that doom on Lebanon, man’o.
            any way you’d turn it,had HA not kidnaped them, there would be no destroying of Lebanon.and if HA would try to be smart again, it will happen again.
            same thing is going on in syria now, had HA not meddled in syrian afairs, there would be no bombing in Beirut yesterday.
            you can’t judge the effect without considering the cause, man’o, that is throwing sand in everybody’s eyes (yours too)

          • doron

            HA’s kidnapping of IDF soldiers is what brought that doom on Lebanon, man’o.
            any way you’d turn it,had HA not kidnaped them, there would be no destroying of Lebanon.and if HA would try to be smart again, it will happen again.
            same thing is going on in syria now, had HA not meddled in syrian afairs, there would be no bombing in Beirut yesterday.
            you can’t judge the effect without considering the cause, man’o, that is throwing sand in everybody’s eyes (yours too)

        • dateam

          yes just like israels precision guided missiles that hit a childrens hospital in 1996 and again in 2006? Just like their precision guided bombs that killed unifl soldiers in 2006….just like just like just like

          • master09

            That’s what happens when you fire weapons from hispitals at the enemy you expect them to hit back that target. Fight a war and protect your people but some don’t give a shit about chdren or women.

          • dateam

            UN verified after investigating that no weapons were fired from those locations. What are you trying to say that the hzb stood behind the un compund and fired rockets? The un compound is right near the border they wouldnt be able to get that close. It amazes me how we are channelled to believe a certain way. Since israels inceptioned we are led to believe that they are always the victims.

          • master09

            I am talking about schools and hospitals you see how people miss the big picture. I am no follower of Jews but dome facts are just that. Notice how I said hospitals but did note mention UN compound. Tell me how many weapons were placed in building or did we lose those reports.

          • master09

            I did not think I would get a reply after facts.

          • MekensehParty

            Somebody whispered in his ear: “skot wlaaa!” (shut up in Alawite)

          • master09

            I am talking about schools and hospitals you see how people miss the big picture. I am no follower of Jews but dome facts are just that. Notice how I said hospitals but did note mention UN compound. Tell me how many weapons were placed in building or did we lose those reports.

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually, that happened recently in Tripoli … the crazies coming into a hospital and trying to gain access to the roof to be able to shoot from. Fortunately, those doors had been sealed and they gave up trying – although it caused great angst for a time in the place, and the death of 2 staff who said: ‘You can’t do that here’.
            And yes .. there are many ‘small stories’ which never make the ‘news’.

          • master09

            5th when people support something they sure are not going to say anything bad, but I call that a blind sheep. A smart open minded thinker will point the finger no matter who they are doing wrong and the killing.

          • 5thDrawer

            I watch these ‘discussions’ and must believe we are all (or most of us) are on two sides of the same coin – the coin which says ‘PEACE PREFERRED’. Dragging up the ever-growing ‘evidence’ of atrocities big or small – without FINALLY DECIDING that it would be better to start from a simple premise rather than making growing and glowing body-counts all the time is really the necessary step no-one wants to take. The step where everyone says ‘WE WANT PEACE IN FUTURE’ and lays down the weapons and sits for a moment to savour the quiet, before discussing how best to make life fair and equitable for everyone, without that constant FEAR of an atrocity.
            Of course, to have that flow into the minds of ‘the people’ requires that everyone stops the useless ‘dialogues’ and pushes the ‘new line’ – and to get them to do that, you need better advertising than what goes on in a Blog or news sites – OR in the ancients quoting ancient texts – which lead to nothing of ‘equality’ of thoughts about humanity or peace in it’s societies.
            There ARE some who march ‘for peace’ first – even without answers.
            Those are the ones who should be followed – and it’s not just ONE.

          • 5thDrawer

            I watch these ‘discussions’ and must believe we are all (or most of us) on two sides of the same coin – the coin which says ‘PEACE PREFERRED’. Dragging up the ever-growing ‘evidence’ of atrocities big or small – without FINALLY DECIDING that it would be better to start from a simple premise rather than making growing and glowing body-counts all the time; it is really the necessary step no-one wants to take. The step where everyone says ‘WE WANT PEACE IN FUTURE’ and lays down the weapons and sits for a moment to savour the quiet, before discussing how best to make life fair and equitable for everyone, without that constant FEAR of an atrocity.
            Of course, to have that flow into the minds of ‘the people’ requires that everyone stops the useless ‘dialogues’ and pushes the ‘new line’ – and to get them to do that, you need better advertising than what goes on in a Blog or news sites – OR in the ancients quoting ancient texts – which lead to nothing of ‘equality’ of thoughts about humanity or peace in it’s societies.
            There ARE some who march ‘for peace’ first – even without answers.
            Those are the ones who should be followed – and that’s not just ONE.

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually, that happened recently in Tripoli … the crazies coming into a hospital and trying to gain access to the roof to be able to shoot from. Fortunately, those doors had been sealed and they gave up trying – although it caused great angst for a time in the place, and the death of 2 staff who said: ‘You can’t do that here’.
            And yes .. there are many ‘small stories’ which never make the ‘news’.

          • MekensehParty

            “I never said the Israelis were righteous in their response.”
            Read English ya Hasan

      • MekensehParty

        Right, Hezbollah’s precision strikes sniffs out only terrorist-rebels and kill only the rebels. Never the civilians, never the children…
        Just like the 10K rockets they sent on Israel in 2006, these rockets are so precise that if the target – Israeli forces, are out of range, the rocket drops itself into the wood or desert so as not to hurt civilians.
        Hezbollah is well known for fighting righteously!

        • dateam

          yes just like israels precision guided missiles that hit a childrens hospital in 1996 and again in 2006? Just like their precision guided bombs that killed unifl soldiers in 2006….just like just like just like

      • The real lebanese

        Its to persuade the public to stop HAs involvement in Syria. Their trying to install the thought process “Why should Lebanese die for Assad anyways?”

        • man-o-war

          Why don’t they go and fight them in Syria? It would make more sense and win more sympathy, don’t you think? What they’re doing with these suicide attacks will make people hate them more. Anybody’s family member could be in these areas when the cowards strike. They aren’t attacking HA, they are attacking Lebanese civilians.

          • MekensehParty

            nope they’re attacking Hezbollah and their families, just like Hezbollah is attacking Syrian rebels and their families. Same -same
            Whether you denounce both, or say nothing on both

          • man-o-war

            Those orphans have no families! And how exactly do they know who’s who? You think everyone walking around the cultural center was a family member to a HA operative fighting in Syria?

          • MekensehParty

            and every kid or orphan in Syrian cities are rebels?

          • MekensehParty

            and every kid or orphan in Syrian cities are rebels?

          • MekensehParty

            again, let me hear you denounce both and you’ll earn (some) respect
            As long as you point to one camp forgetting the atrocities of the other you’re simply a hypocrite

          • man-o-war

            I don’t really care to earn your respect, don’t think too highly of yourself.
            I’ve repeatedly denounced the death of innocent civilians in Lebanon and in Syria. It’s funny that you ask me to do this, because I don’t believe you have once denounced the actions of these cowardly suicide bombers. I actually recall you making light of the deaths of civilians in Lebanon.

          • MekensehParty

            didn’t say my respect, I said some respect from some potential readers.
            I’d be lying on myself if I ever respect someone like you.
            You denounce the death of your friends denying any favorable word for those your friends killed or are killing.
            Personally, I don’t denounce this side or that side, let them get at each other like the barbarians that they are. Good for them all!

          • man-o-war

            Haha, “my friends”, are we going to start that again? Did you not read the part where I said that I’ve repeatedly denounced the death of innocent civilians in Lebanon and Syria?

            “I’d be lying on myself if I ever respect someone like you.”, the same goes for you. Some of the comments you’ve made in the past are pretty disgusting and make you sound a bit looney, just my opinion.

          • MekensehParty

            right, but your definition of “innocent” is the problem
            whereas everyone Hezbollah kills is a takfiri son of takfiri but everyone that is killed by the other side is a martyred dove…

          • man-o-war

            Where are you getting this from? “takfiri son of takfiri”, that sounds more like something you would say. I think its terrible when innocent women and children are caught in the crossfire in Syria, I think its a war crime when Assad is dropping barrel bombs on areas he knows still has children. Even if they were children of “takfiri” fighters, still inexcusable.

            I also think its terrible and tragic when a barely 20 year old suicide bomber drives a car into an area of no fighting and detonates it among civilians going about their business. Nothing can justify an act like this. Nothing!

          • MekensehParty

            stop saying the crossfire, it’s no hazard that “civilians” are dying, they have been targeted since the first day of the uprising. it’s no crossfire, it’s specific targeting of people and residents. And that’s exactly what ended up attracting takfiris and sons of takfiris to fight against a brutal and monstrous regime.
            you’re starting your argumentation based on a wrong hypothesis and therefore, no matter how much your words can make sense, the whole argument is flawed because it’s based on falseness.

          • man-o-war

            When rebels are fighting from occupied buildings and there is return fire, civilians in that building are caught in the “crossfire”
            Its what happens during wars fought in population centers.

            People flee or get caught up in the madness.
            When Assad is dropping barrel bombs over civilian areas, its not crossfire. It’s blatant targeting of civilians. Neither you or I have proof of what HA is doing on the ground, you’re making unsubstantiated claims that they’re targeting civilians.
            On the other hand, we know 100% that these suicide bombers are targeting civilians going about their day.

          • MekensehParty

            Ya Mano who attacked the residential building in the first place?
            Those rebels are not fighting from occupied buildings, they are defending their homes. There is no crossfire! they are targeted by fire. Bashar means to clean every square inch of anyone who opposes him. That’s not a war fought IN population centers, it’s a war ON population centers. Please, say things as they are, stop twisting reality.
            What is Hezbollah doing fighting a war outside the territory it’s already occupying in Lebanon? And when you see videos of Hezbollah fighters summarily killing rebels lying on the floor how can you keep a straight face when you say there are no proofs of Hezbollah’s atrocities?
            What is happening today in Dahyeh and Hezbollaland in general is but a prelude of what’s coming next and which is much, much worse! These suicide attacks in Lebanon today are not even a fraction of what’s going to happen to the Shia population and their local allies if Hezbollah remains in Syria.
            A while ago, you laughed at me when I said Hezbollah is going to pay dearly for eliminating all moderate opposition from the country because the extremist will take their place. Today the extremists are in full control, driving their explosives laden vehicles wherever they like all the way to the heartland of Hezbollah.
            In the near future when assad inevitably falls, and all the Hezbollah fighters are dead, wounded or in retreat, there will be around a million rebel fighters who will walk on Beirut after tacking Damascus and the streets will run with blood, especially if the big powers aren’t capable of reaching a political settlement.
            You think the USA is going to lift a finger to protect the Shia of Lebanon being massacred when they already washed their hands from the Sunnis being massacred in Syria? Or Russia or Iran can stop the rebels invading Beirut? Open your eyes! They are coming to burn and take revenge! No nice words or denouncement will suffice with those rebels turned monsters from the atrocities done to them and their families.
            Bullshit aside, Lebanon’s future is as dark as Syria’s. Every drop of blood spilled there will be spilled again in Lebanon.
            If you want to save yourselves from this inevitable fate every Lebanese must act today. Forget your gemmayze bars, forget the parties and the restaurants and the beach and faraya, and the Phoenix and how Lebanese always survive everything because of their love for life and all that depressingly unrealistic poetry that we see daily in the newspapers… and get down on the streets and do not leave until Hezbollah brings its troops back from Syria and surrender their weapons to the army. Only if these two things happen will Lebanon and its population be spared, if the war in Syria ends with Hezbollah still a military power they will invade hezbollahland the next week and a couple of car explosions will look like child play in comparison of the atrocities to come. May the future prove me wrong!

          • man-o-war

            Who attacked the residential building first? I’m not sure, maybe Assads troops or maybe HA. Why did they attack it? Was someone shooting from inside of it, while knowing their family is cowering in a room in the same building.

            Look, I can’t blame the Syrian rebels for wanting to overthrow a dictator. I also can’t blame them for taking the fight into the population centers. When you’re outgunned by a superior army you have to take cover where you can. You can’t fight in the open, it’s suicide. So it makes sense that the rebels would take shots at the armed forces and scurry back into the densely populated centers. That is why Assad took on the scorched earth approach, to deny them of hiding places. Similar to Vietnam when the US was trying to burn up the jungles. This just happens to be urban jungles. It’s not the humane tactic, but war is rarely humane. Are innocent civilians being caught up in this mess, YES! Its a tragedy!

            You think its a war on population centers, I think its a war in population centers. I guess we have to disagree on that.

            What percentage of HA do you think are Lebanese citizens? You make it sound like they’re a foreign force occupying Lebanon. Some may agree with you on that. Lots would disagree as well.

            “videos of Hezbollah fighters summarily killing rebels lying on the floor”, I’ve never seen these videos. You should put up a link. I have seen videos of the atrocities committed by the foreign fighters and rebels in Syria that are fighting for the formation of an Islamic state. Assads troops have also committed atrocities, barrel bombs, executions, torture, and so on. Nobody is completely innocent in this terrible war.

            I hope you’re wrong about what the future may entail for Lebanon. Do you think the religious extremists will only target HA areas when they come by the “million”? If what you say does happen, they will try and make Lebanon an Islamic state as well. Everyone thats not willing to accept their rule will be a target.

            Just like this recent bombing, how many non-Shia were killed? They are quickly making enemies across the Lebanese spectrum.

          • MekensehParty

            They did not wait for someone to shoot from inside to attack. They attacked, captured, killed, tortured, burned and then the shooting started coming from inside, only then did people took up arms and shot at those coming to their buildings and homes to arrest and kill them. You insist on covering your eyes with your own hands.
            I told you your argument is flawed and will remain flawed as long as you start from the hypothesis that it’s a war of 2 aggressors while in reality it’s a war of one aggressor against the population who’s in a state of self-defense. That’s the reality you keep refusing to recognize and I think nothing will convince you of the opposite.
            Just know, that based on this reality, and based on how the situation is evolving, the logical next step is a war on Hezbollah in hezbollahland. Already the local defenses of Hezbollah are falling. Already Hezbollahland is under siege. And soon enough the invasion will start.
            Will it be an Islamic army marching to impose Islamic rules, will it be rebels looking for revenge or even a “preemptive” war against Hezbollah? it doesn’t matter, the rebels today have multiple reasons to fight Hezbollah everywhere and they will indulge as they are indulging.
            Unfortunately at that point crying foul wouldn’t matter anymore, it will be too late.

          • Hind Abyad

            You are discussing with an Israeli agent…”..what ended upt attracting takfiris & sons to fight against a brutal and monstrous regime” Takfiris are the Middle East Crusadors according to MikmakParty.

          • MekensehParty

            tv, potatoes, sand, lamp, potatoes again…
            good night

          • Hind Abyad

            Ugh..and take your stinking self with you .

          • MekensehParty

            Don’t forget Hind:
            2 anti-Zionists pills before sleeping just like doctor bashar prescribed
            and don’t forget to run the brainwash video of doctor maher all night when sleeping
            gotta keep that same rhetoric fresh
            repeat after me: Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16

          • Hind Abyad

            Don’t bother spend energy on me you loose time Zionist. Zionism is not Judaism. Takfiris crusadors fighting a brutal monstrous pol pot regime, liberating a priest from his head.

          • MekensehParty

            Don’t forget Hind:
            2 anti-Zionists pills before sleeping just like doctor bashar prescribed
            and don’t forget to run the brainwash video of doctor maher all night when sleeping
            gotta keep that same rhetoric fresh
            repeat after me: Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16
            Zionist-cia-mossad-saudis-takfiris-m 16

          • Hind Abyad

            Don’t bother spend energy on me you loose time Zionist. Zionism is not Judaism. Takfiris crusadors fighting a brutal monstrous pol pot regime, liberating a priest from his head.

          • Hind Abyad

            oh.. and i have no tv..

          • MekensehParty

            tv, potatoes, sand, lamp, potatoes again…
            good night

          • Hind Abyad

            Mekhenseer..Guantanamo, doctor bashar, bugs, miami slang, dr maher? Who the hell is that..oh, and i have no tv.

          • MekensehParty

            right, but your definition of “innocent” is the problem
            whereas everyone Hezbollah kills is a takfiri son of takfiri but everyone that is killed by the other side is a martyred dove…

          • man-o-war

            Where are you getting this from? “takfiri son of takfiri”, that sounds more like something you would say. I think its terrible when innocent women and children are caught in the crossfire in Syria, I think its a war crime when Assad is dropping barrel bombs on areas he knows still has children. Even if they were children of “takfiri” fighters, still inexcusable.

            I also think its terrible and tragic when a barely 20 year old suicide bomber drives a car into an area of no fighting and detonates it among civilians going about their business. Nothing can justify an act like this. Nothing!

          • Farq2

            A bit, now now Man O, stop being subtle. The guys a lunatic.

          • Hind Abyad

            They’re sent by Saudis to instigate sectarian wars all over the Levant, when people act more intelligent than the monkeys, they would undo the primates, intelligence could beat money.. a way to save the Levant (or what’s left)..

          • 5thDrawer

            Tonight I will watch the movie ‘Year One’. Maybe pick up some historical wisdom.

          • Farq2

            That movie is right up your ally. Don’t forget the scotch.

          • 5thDrawer

            Could have been an ally … but I think you meant alley.
            It answered some of those ‘big questions’ for sure. 😉

          • Farq2

            Lol. So it’s true, there is more than one god. -:))))

          • 5thDrawer

            Could have been an ally … but I think you meant alley.
            It answered some of those ‘big questions’ for sure. 😉
            Especially why we need a better sense of humour about all the gods.

          • dateam

            Please state the atrocities that hezbollah has committed to the takfiris? In qusar they let 3500 of these nut jobs leave and they were treated in lebanon then went back out into the field? Egypt,tunisia,syria,iraq,pakistan,nigeria,mali,kenya,libya what are they doing their? Killing the minorities as well as their own? Its the same mentality….sick and demented….their using women, children , as well as palestinians now…They kidnapped innocent people….and you expect them to do nothing? The nuns and bishops that are still being held captive what do they have to do with it? How about we kidnap some religous figures of yours in tripoli and exchange them for the nuns and bishops? You speak of atrocities? The people that you are defending behead people and kick their heads around and put it up on youtube like its a game….This was always coming sorry but these people need to be cleansed…but i tell you one thing like or hate the hzb they have more class than the people you defend….because til now they have not retaliated…how about they start doing the same in the other areas? Your mentality is both ignorant and disgusting….ignorant because you dont realise that they are killing their own as well…dandash a daraki stopped the guy because he was suspicious of him got into an argument with him then the guy blew himself up….hes a hero one of your own probably saved many lives …do you not see that? I suggest you work out what the word hypocrite means before you use it otherwise go find a rug and sweep yourself under it.

          • MekensehParty

            How many times are you going to try to portray me as a defender of the takfiris?
            How many times will you fail and try again?
            All what you said means nothing. All your babbling about the nuns and the “innocent people” and Tripoli and and… is nothing but a cry of defeat and an attempt to shift blame.
            You prepared the field for the takfiris thinking that you can control them and make them play the role that benefits you. Now, they’re here, there and everywhere and you control shit! they’re attacking you where it hurts and will keep doing so as long as the unity and balance that you destroyed is reinstated, and that better come fast or allah ma3o. You have only yourself to blame! No one cares for your crocodile tears. You made your bed, sleep in it!

          • Hind Abyad

            Free Afghani “rebel” fighting to free Syria from monster Assad

          • 5thDrawer

            Lonely figure in a landscape created by Assad. Couldn’t paint it better.

          • Hind Abyad

            Fout le camps.

          • MekensehParty

            RE: those were your heroes 3 years ago when they were blowing US soldiers and Iraqis alike… I’m inclined to believe that you’re the photographer

          • Hind Abyad

            Lunatic liar slanderer Mekegaga..”those were my heroes 3 years ago when ???..
            I know nothing about 3 years ago in Irak.. not following news from Irak..
            I’m a Lebanese Christian non-aligned in war on Syria (like you Israelis).
            These photos are Chechen mercenaries going to kill in Syria, welcommed
            at Turkey’s borders.

          • MekensehParty

            RE: those were your heroes 3 years ago when they were blowing US soldiers and Iraqis alike… I’m inclined to believe that you’re the photographer

          • MekensehParty

            You’re the one who wanted him out of Guantanamo
            What do you want???

          • Hind Abyad

            Is that so? Explain Meka..

          • MekensehParty

            If instead of doctOr bashar pills every night you drink a clear cup of water you will realize that you can’t ask for terrorists to be released from Guantanamo and then complain that they’re fighting your best bud in Syria…
            got it? or should I say it with a Syrian accent like doctOr maher’s voice?

          • Hind Abyad

            Frankly my dear Mekememe, i don’t capito nothing about your “best bud” and Guantanamo etc.. thats not in my domain..
            And no, there’s no ‘got it’..Mekencrazy.

          • Hind Abyad

            You famity drink cups of clear water?

          • IraniAngel

            and meanwhile no one of these crazy ppl care about the genocide currently going on in the central african republic. muslims r indeed laughable

          • MekensehParty

            again, let me hear you denounce both and you’ll earn (some) respect
            As long as you point to one camp forgetting the atrocities of the other you’re simply a hypocrite

          • man-o-war

            I don’t really care to earn your respect, don’t think too highly of yourself.
            I’ve repeatedly denounced the death of innocent civilians in Lebanon and in Syria. It’s funny that you ask me to do this, because I don’t believe you have once denounced the actions of these cowardly suicide bombers. I actually recall you making light of the deaths of civilians in Lebanon.

          • dateam

            Please state the atrocities that hezbollah has committed to the takfiris? In qusar they let 3500 of these nut jobs leave and they were treated in lebanon then went back out into the field? Egypt,tunisia,syria,iraq,pakistan,nigeria,mali,kenya,libya what are they doing their? Killing the minorities as well as their own? Its the same mentality….sick and demented….their using women, children , as well as palestinians now…They kidnapped innocent people….and you expect them to do nothing? The nuns and bishops that are still being held captive what do they have to do with it? How about we kidnap some religous figures of yours in tripoli and exchange them for the nuns and bishops? You speak of atrocities? The people that you are defending behead people and kick their heads around and put it up on youtube like its a game….This was always coming sorry but these people need to be cleansed…but i tell you one thing like or hate the hzb they have more class than the people you defend….because til now they have not retaliated…how about they start doing the same in the other areas? Your mentality is both ignorant and disgusting….ignorant because you dont realise that they are killing their own as well…dandash a daraki stopped the guy because he was suspicious of him got into an argument with him then the guy blew himself up….hes a hero one of your own probably saved many lives …do you not see that? I suggest you work out what the word hypocrite means before you use it otherwise go find a rug and sweep yourself under it.

          • 5thDrawer

            Of course there are ‘incidentals’ each time, Man-O. The basic idea is ‘terror’. The already-suffering children are incidentals. As is a woman doing the family shopping who happens to meet her end by a bullet fired at her head by a sniper.
            Terror – IN ALL the minds. Done by all sides – although some obviously love to make it a graphic image more gory than seen before.
            Murder is murder … some just use a gun – others like to chop up bodies to increase Fear levels. Bombs chop flesh rather efficiently.

          • Igor Chingoski

            in the meantime innocent bystanders are killed, while You hiding in Florida sitting on your dildo enjoying the bloodshed.

          • MekensehParty

            nope they’re attacking Hezbollah and their families, just like Hezbollah is attacking Syrian rebels and their families. Same -same
            Whether you denounce both, or say nothing on both

          • The real lebanese

            They aren’t strong enough to fight HA head on in combat. Its almost like propaganda but you cant quite call it that.

        • 5thDrawer

          All of the above …

        • Hind Abyad

          Exactly..

  • Tk

    so HA was told if they got involved in syria , whoever freak is going to retaliate . So I don’t understand why HA is involved in Syria? If they consider themselves patriotic then work on fixing internal issue. Should people die in lebanon to gain some political momentum in Syria?

    • master09

      HA do not give a SHIT about Lebanon or the people.

      • Tk

        I agree with you . But still people don’t accept that fact. They care only about their own ideology. See the problem master09, I think the culture and mentality is causing lot of harm for the country. Lot of people in this post ,that are educated would not accept that HA is a problem to lebanon and only because they can’t accept the fact they are wrong. Ya haram ya libnan. … People are dying in Lebanon for Iran and Syria

        • dateam

          Is it like saying the phalange and LF did what they did during the civil war to say liberate us yet at the end of it after all the death and destruction the saudis drew up a paper called the taif payed them out , gave the palestinians autonomy on our land and virtually made the presidency a disfunctional seat to this day? Is that what you mean by haram libnan? Who were people dying for then? The palestinian christians became lebanese citizens ( i dont see any christian palestinians in refugee camps do you? ) arafat payed gmayell hush money to keep him quiet and the dissallusioned left lebanon? Does that sum things up?

          • Tk

            You think that I like what Gemayel Brothers did?? They had lot of opportunities to prevent the worth that happened. you think I like what Lebanese forces did ? and where did you get the idea that Arafat paid money for Amin Gemayel ?? Like really can you be more realistic. In the other side, all I hear people blaming the Palestinians in Lebanon. Blame yourself. It is the Lebanese that declare war between themselves, not the Palestinian. the Palestinian were in the center of the conflict.

    • master09

      HA do not give a SHIT about Lebanon or the people.

  • Igor Chingoski

    So it is or it is not the outside enemy We should fight first? I told You SO!!!

    FIRST We must be united against outside enemies, and after that We solve Our problems, But We can’t do both. But remember what is the origin of all this:

    Just Remember that when Lebanon and Syria Re-established Diplomatic relations in 2009, We opened Our Embassy in Syria and Syria opened theirs in Lebanon respecting each other autonomy,

    Stating that Shebaa Farms are Lebanese.

    This is what Israel didn’t like because goes against their greed for keeping the Golan Heights and Shebaa farms, And this is why USA the UK and Israel harvested from Turkey an insurrection to topple Bashar Assad, Israel Don’t want anybody to have peace in the region is goes against them, Israel always will try to divide the region fomenting civilian unrest and rivalry the same way is been during many years, is a war of divide and defeat and is time for everyone to see what is really behind all this innocent bloodshed, is Evil.

    Lebanese army maps published in 1961 and 1966 specifically pinpoint several of the Shebaa Farms, including Zebdine, Fashkoul, Mougr Shebaa and Ramta, all of which are designated as being lebanese. Lebanese Ministry of Tourism maps also show the Lebanese-Syrian border running west of the Shebaa Farms. Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are Lebanese.

    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries’ border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region. They will then submit a new map to the UN.

    You see? And now they want the Lebanese Government to do the dirty work killing Palestinians (who in turn make terrorism) who in turn are protected by the UN this way Israel and USA can demonize Lebanon as committing genocide so the Israelis can keep Our Land/ Dirty game indeed, but only those with no moral are truly dirty.

    Added to that the Israelis acuse Our Government of not dealing with HA, and when We want to get the weapons We need, Israel cry out that those weapons are going to fall in the hands of HA. Dirty Game is all this.

    • Hind Abyad

      True!