Hezbollah not enthusiastic about Aoun's candidacy

succariyeh hezbollah MPIn the midst of the talk about the lack of March 8 enthusiasm for the nomination of Free Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun to the the presidency, Hezbollah bloc MP Walid Succarieh was quoted as saying that our only condition is that there must be consensus around the candidate and if there is consensus around Aoun’s nomination then the party will not oppose it .

During a radio interview he said: “We are not against Aoun’s candidacy if there is consensus around him.”

Commenting on the possibility that the term of president Michel Suleiman may be extended if a government is formed and if there is no consensus on a new candidate Succarieh said:

“If there is no consensus on a new candidate the extension of Suleiman’s term will require the vote of a majority of two thirds of the parliament. ”

aoun nasrallah 0710According to analysts if Hezbollah is not enthusiastic about its number one Christian ally’s nomination then Aoun has absolutely no chance to be considered as a serious candidate.

In a related development former president Amin Gemayel who is one of the mentioned presidential candidates held a meeting with former PM and Future parliamentary bloc leader MP Fouad Siniora at the center house to discuss among other issues the up coming presidential election and the need to put an end to the differences among the alliance’s parties.

“The meetings will continue away from the media (spotlight) to agree on a candidate or a group of candidates for the presidency,” sources were quoted as saying.

Suleiman’s six-year term ends in May 2014.

According to Al Liwa newspaper the expected candidates are Aoun, Marada Movement leader MP Suleiman Franjieh, Phalange party leader and former president Amin Gemayel and Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea.

Asked about his plans for the presidential election Aoun said last week during an interview with MTV :

“We have not consulted with out allies and with Hezbollah over the issue of nominations for the presidency and it’s still early for me to discuss this issue and no one has told me that I’m a candidate.”

Aoun said if elected as next president he will allow Hezbollah to keep its resistance arms until a solution for the Middle East is reached.

  • Constantin7

    Any concensus president would be automatically a weak president like Michel Suleiman. Why the President should be a concensus one, while the prime ministre and the head of the parliament should not be a concensus one ? Why the Sunnis decide the prime ministre and the Shiaa decide about the chambers head while Chrisitians have no real say in those nominations, while when it comes to the President all must have their say and at the end we end up with a weak president who is there just as a formality with no power or authority. We do need a strong president with a vision for the country and the the future. Do notice that HA’s interest is to have a concensus president, i.e. a weak president to continue with their hegemony on the country. Let there be normal elections with several nominations and a President elected with a 50% +1 of the votes.

    • The real lebanese

      Presidents approved by M8 are never good presidents. Never have been, never will be.

    • 5thDrawer

      But Constantin … that would be breaking the idiot ‘constitution’ they all confess under.

    • Greetings Constantin,
      Please consider the reality that mankind simply does not qualify to govern or rule!! since the garden of eden as a brand new couple adam and eve thought they knew it all even when they were inexperienced and brand new, thousands of years later with every from of government taking a shot at it proves to be a failure due to corruption injustice or simple bias to one group over the other.
      jesus clearly distanced himself from any world government or politics and stated “my kingdom is no part of this world”
      All the events we see taking place around us today confirm that as long as it is man made… it is not supposed to work. god simply allowed the exercise to take place so we see the horrible results we see today when we claim to be godly in our ways but the results prove contrary to his principles.

      • 5thDrawer

        And some ‘scribes’ were wise enough, eventually, to write down the concepts.
        Humans find truth in them, but, alas, get really bored being ‘good’ all the time.
        Men keep trying to put square pegs in round holes – and begin to use bigger hammers to accomplish it – then say: ‘Look Ma. I did it.’
        I think early Mama’s (women being more aware of facts of life) replied: ‘No. That’s wrong. You ruined the peg, you can’t get it out now, and the hole is battered to death .’
        Some listened to Mama. But most don’t like to be shown to be wrong – especially over and over – because they also don’t want to admit how silly they look cutting square pegs for round holes. And at some point those ‘Men’ stopped listening to Women, and made ‘rules’ to keep them out of the woodshop.
        (The ‘might is right’ concept … which doesn’t usually work either.)
        (Tales in ‘Those Books’ put the female in the bad light – ‘We are bad because ‘SHE makes me eat apples!’ – that sort of thing.)
        (ahhh .. an 18-yr … smooth … ;-))

        • 5th believe or not it never did say apple!! just fruit. there is a lot to learn from the account of the garden and the principles that go with it.
          I will put it to you this way, near where I live there is a major freeway with 5 lanes in the north direction and 5 lanes to drive south with signs clearly stating DO NOT DRIVE ON PAVED SHOULDERS although I have all the lanes I need to put the horsies to work with pedal to the metal with the wrong attitude I can say Dont ever tell me where I can drive and swirve across all 5 lanes including shoulders and break the law when I dont need to, or I can be happy with the 5 lanes and obey the law and not lose anything!!!
          the tree was actually no different from all the other trees in the garden but was misrepresented by the devil as the tree of knowledge and upon eating from the fruit it bore Eve would immediately become like god and gain self rule. no different from any of our children today they think they know everything, they think mom and dad know nothing, they think they are great drivers, they think they found true love ant 15 and will live happily ever after!!

          Hind sight is 20/20 because our life span is too short and we generally learn very little until its too late, in contrast the devil has thousands of years of experience on us and has proven successful in keeping us from progressing towards any sense of peace and unity … all in the name of false religions that he controls.

          • 5thDrawer

            (What I got was: ‘Eat your beans!’…)
            I suppose I’ll meet that fellow in the not-too distant future … stomp on his toes.
            Bunch of us oldies already left for the warm …
            But there are SURE a lot of young Twits in here. :-))))

      • Constantin7

        With your theory you’re giving amunition to muslims to apply Shariaa law, since they believe that shariaa is God’s law. Let’s keep God out of politics and try to apply the simplest form of democracy by electing a new President democratically and not through “concensus” meetings and ever lasting pulling of ropes, to end up with a “neutred” (without any balls) president.

        • lol on the neutured part 🙂

          Constantin long before islam existed or the word christian was actually a word there was people just like today with struggels and suffering on many levels just as we see today .

          jesus life and mission focused on 2 significant events, his death as a perfect man to undo Adams introduction of sin to our DNA and very importantly preaching of a universal hope for ALL that he called the GOOD NEWS .

          Good news was mentioned 134 times in the new testament and his followers went on a mission to give hope in their travels to far reaching places and comfort based on demonstrated miracles that jesus performed proving his ability to heal the sick, cure the blind, cure the paralized and as far s raising lazarus from death.

          This good news was NO LIE it had a time table and was elaborated on through out the scriptures.

          you are correct that god and politics should not mix as believing in godly government and manly one is like holding on to 2 trains going in 2 different directions and eventually you will be torn apart , the 2 are opposite of each other.

          Jesus refused to get involved in politics of any sort although he admonished obeying the laws and paying taxes, etc, as long as it didn’t conflict with God’s laws. After performing miracles the people wanted to make him king but when he saw this he withdrew (John 6:15) “Then Jesus knowing that they were about to seize him to
          make him king withdrew to the mountain” and told his followers to do the same (John 17:16) to be no part of the world just as he was no part of the world.
          Why this stand of neutrality? 2 main reasons 1) man, no matter how well meaning, lacks the ability to care for billions of people. King Solomon stated man dominates man to his injury (Eccliesiates 8:9) Jeremiah stated that it doesn’t belong to man to direct his own step. 2) 1 John 5:19 states that “the whole wold is lying in the power of the wicked one” and even sincere rulers cannot evade this influence.

          Jesus main purpose was to publish the good news of God’s
          government and gave us laws for our heart to live in peace with each other
          until that time comes (Matthew 22:39) love your neighbor as yourself”

          Not my theory whatsoever my brother!

  • Constantin7

    Any concensus president would be automatically a weak president like Michel Suleiman. Why the President should be a concensus one, while the prime ministre and the head of the parliament should not be a concensus one ? Why the Sunnis decide the prime ministre and the Shiaa decide about the chambers head while Chrisitians have no real say in those nominations, while when it comes to the President all must have their say and at the end we end up with a weak president who is there just as a formality with no power or authority. We do need a strong president with a vision for the country and the the future. Do notice that HA’s interest is to have a concensus president, i.e. a weak president to continue with their hegemony on the country. Let there be normal elections with several nominations and a President elected with a 50% +1 of the votes.

    • The real lebanese

      Presidents approved by M8 are never good presidents. Never have been, never will be.

    • 5thDrawer

      But Constantin … that would be breaking the idiot ‘constitution’ they all confess under.

    • Greetings Constantin,
      Please consider the reality that mankind simply does not qualify to govern or rule!! since the garden of eden as a brand new couple adam and eve thought they knew it all even when they were inexperienced and brand new, thousands of years later with every from of government taking a shot at it proves to be a failure due to corruption injustice or simple bias to one group over the other.
      jesus clearly distanced himself from any world government or politics and stated “my kingdom is no part of this world”
      All the events we see taking place around us today confirm that as long as it is man made… it is not supposed to work. god simply allowed the exercise to take place so we see the horrible results we see today when we claim to be godly in our ways but the results prove contrary to his principles.

      • 5thDrawer

        And some ‘scribes’ were wise enough, eventually, to write down the concepts.
        Humans find truth in them, but, alas, get really bored being ‘good’ all the time.
        Men keep trying to put square pegs in round holes – and begin to use bigger hammers to accomplice it – then say: ‘Look Ma. I did it.’
        I think early Mama’s (women being more aware of facts of life) replied: ‘No. That’s wrong. You ruined the peg, you can’t get it out now, and the hole is battered to death .’
        Some listened to Mama. But most don’t like to be shown to be wrong – especially over and over – because they also don’t want to admit how silly they look cutting square pegs for round holes. And at some point those ‘Men’ stopped listening to Women, and made ‘rules’ to keep them out of the woodshop.

        • 5th believe or not it never did say apple!! just fruit. there is a lot to learn from the account of the garden and the principles that go with it.
          I will put it to you this way, near where I live there is a major freeway with 5 lanes in the north direction and 5 lanes to drive south with signs clearly stating DO NOT DRIVE ON PAVED SHOULDERS although I have all the lanes I need to put the horsies to work with pedal to the metal with the wrong attitude I can say Dont ever tell me where I can drive and swirve across all 5 lanes including shoulders and break the law when I dont need to, or I can be happy with the 5 lanes and obey the law and not lose anything!!!
          the tree was actually no different from all the other trees in the garden but was misrepresented by the devil as the tree of knowledge and upon eating from the fruit it bore Eve would immediately become like god and gain self rule. no different from any of our children today they think they know everything, they think mom and dad know nothing, they think they are great drivers, they think they found true love ant 15 and will live happily ever after!!

          Hind sight is 20/20 because our life span is too short and we generally learn very little until its too late, in contrast the devil has thousands of years of experience on us and has proven successful in keeping us from progressing towards any sense of peace and unity … all in the name of false religions that he controls.

          • 5thDrawer

            (What I got was: ‘Eat your beans!’…)
            I suppose I’ll meet that fellow in the not-too distant future … stomp on his toes.
            Bunch of us oldies already left for the warm …
            But there are SURE a lot of young Twits in here. :-))))

      • Constantin7

        With your theory you’re giving amunition to muslims to apply Shariaa law, since they believe that shariaa is God’s law. Let’s keep God out of politics and try to apply the simplest form of democracy by electing a new President democratically and not through “concensus” meetings and ever lasting pulling of ropes, to end up with a “neutred” (without any balls) president.

        • lol on the neutured part 🙂

          Constantin long before islam existed or the word christian was actually a word there was people just like today with struggels and suffering on many levels just as we see today .

          jesus life and mission focused on 2 significant events, his death as a perfect man to undo Adams introduction of sin to our DNA and very importantly preaching of a universal hope for ALL that he called the GOOD NEWS .

          Good news was mentioned 134 times in the new testament and his followers went on a mission to give hope in their travels to far reaching places and comfort based on demonstrated miracles that jesus performed proving his ability to heal the sick, cure the blind, cure the paralized and as far s raising lazarus from death.

          This good news was NO LIE it had a time table and was elaborated on through out the scriptures.

          you are correct that god and politics should not mix as believing in godly government and manly one is like holding on to 2 trains going in 2 different directions and eventually you will be torn apart , the 2 are opposite of each other.

          Jesus refused to get involved in politics of any sort although he admonished obeying the laws and paying taxes, etc, as long as it didn’t conflict with God’s laws. After performing miracles the people wanted to make him king but when he saw this he withdrew (John 6:15) “Then Jesus knowing that they were about to seize him to
          make him king withdrew to the mountain” and told his followers to do the same (John 17:16) to be no part of the world just as he was no part of the world.
          Why this stand of neutrality? 2 main reasons 1) man, no matter how well meaning, lacks the ability to care for billions of people. King Solomon stated man dominates man to his injury (Eccliesiates 8:9) Jeremiah stated that it doesn’t belong to man to direct his own step. 2) 1 John 5:19 states that “the whole wold is lying in the power of the wicked one” and even sincere rulers cannot evade this influence.

          Jesus main purpose was to publish the good news of God’s
          government and gave us laws for our heart to live in peace with each other
          until that time comes (Matthew 22:39) love your neighbor as yourself”

          Not my theory whatsoever my brother!

  • Tk

    hizbullah is not stupid even to consider an idiot like aoun.

    • nagy_michael2

      Tell that to that idiot Libnan1 who thinks so highly of Holy and Divine party.. that’s a nice stab in the back for Aoun the dog of Syria..

      • libnan1

        That is coming from a guy that sniffs Colombian stuff. Nagi, Aoun is the defacto president like or not. They can keep Babda he’s been there done that. The Maghaweer brigade is under his command and 90% of army officers are loyal to their General. They can keep their limousines, we own the fighting machine of the whole Mideast (HA and LAF).
        As a matter of fact I really prefer Aoun not run for president because at that point he have to give the M14 some attention they don’t deserve. I think his son in law Shamel should be the next president.

        • 5thDrawer

          Isn’t Shamel the one holding the ‘battery-pack’ in his pocket?
          The Looon was good to his daughter …

        • nagy_michael2

          Really who are you kidding? didn’t his son-in-law or the head of Maghwaeer brigade related to him. Wasn’t Aoun trying to get him to be the Head of the Army and he failed to get hezbollah support. or you like blind and deaf.. or just a fool. After his son-in-law sacrificied the army to become the general and Hezzie dropped him like a hot potatoes.. His Son in Law will the next president maybe in the next life if he becomes M14. Israel will strike hezzie quickly and with a strong surprise and you will see you and M8 begging for mercy soon.

  • Tk

    hizbullah is not stupid even to consider an idiot like aoun.

    • nagy_michael2

      Tell that to that idiot Libnan1 who thinks so highly of Holy and Divine party.. that’s a nice stab in the back for Aoun the dog of Syria..

      • libnan1

        That is coming from a guy that sniffs Colombian stuff. Nagi, Aoun is the defacto president like or not. They can keep Babda he’s been there done that. The Maghaweer brigade is under his command and 90% of army officers are loyal to their General. They can keep their limousines, we own the fighting machine of the whole Mideast (HA and LAF).
        As a matter of fact I really prefer Aoun not run for president because at that point he have to give the M14 some attention they don’t deserve. I think his son in law Shamel should be the next president.

        • 5thDrawer

          Isn’t Shamel the one holding the ‘battery-pack’ in his pocket?
          The Looon was good to his daughter …

        • nagy_michael2

          Really who are you kidding? didn’t his son-in-law or the head of Maghwaeer brigade related to him. Wasn’t Aoun trying to get him to be the Head of the Army and he failed to get hezbollah support. or you like blind and deaf.. or just a fool. After his son-in-law sacrificied the army to become the general and Hezzie dropped him like a hot potatoes.. His Son in Law will the next president maybe in the next life if he becomes M14. Israel will strike hezzie quickly and with a strong surprise and you will see you and M8 begging for mercy soon.

  • Whoo Sain

    fanjieh all day

  • Whoo Sain

    fanjieh all day

  • 5thDrawer

    ‘If we all have Nastyrallah’s consensus, we’ll consent.’

  • 5thDrawer

    ‘If we all have Nastyrallah’s consensus, we’ll consent.’

  • libnan1

    The new president

  • libnan1

    The new president