Pope tells cheering crowd ‘ pray for me ‘

banner - pope we will miss youPope Benedict asked the faithful to pray for him and for the next pope, addressing a crowded St. Peter’s Square in his penultimate Sunday address before becoming the first pontiff in centuries to resign.

The crowd chanted “Long live the pope!,” waved banners and broke into sustained applause as he spoke from his window. The 85-year-old Benedict, who will resign on February 28, thanked them in several languages.

Speaking in Spanish, he told the crowd which the Vatican said numbered more than 50,000: “I beg you to continue praying for me and for the next pope”.

It was not clear why the pope chose Spanish to make the only specific reference to his upcoming resignation in his Sunday address.

A number of cardinals have said they would be open to the possibility of a pope from the developing world, be it Latin America, Africa or Asia, as opposed to another from Europe, where the Church is crisis and polarized.

After his address, the pope retired into the Vatican’s Apostolic Palace for a scheduled, week-long spiritual retreat and will not make any more public appearances until next Sunday.

Speaking in Italian in part of his address about Lent, the period when Christians reflect on their failings and seek guidance in prayer, the pope spoke of the difficulty of making important decisions.

“In decisive moments of life, or, on closer inspection, at every moment in life, we are at a crossroads: do we want to follow the ‘I’ or God? The individual interest or the real good, that which is really good?” he said.

Since his shock announcement last Monday, the pope has said several times that he made the difficult decision to become the first pope in more than six centuries to resign for the good of the Church.

The pope has said his physical and spiritual forces are no longer strong enough to sustain him in the job of leading the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics at a time of difficulties for the Church in a fast-changing world.

Benedict’s papacy was rocked by crises over the sex abuse of children by priests in Europe and the United States, most of which preceded his time in office but came to light during it.

His reign also saw Muslim anger after he compared Islam to violence. Jews were upset over his rehabilitation of a Holocaust denier. During a scandal over the Church’s business dealings, his butler was convicted of leaking his private papers.

People in the crowd said the pope was a shadow of the man he was when elected on April 19, 2005.

“Like always, recently, he seemed tired, moved, perplexed, uncertain and insecure,” said Stefan Malabar, an Italian in St. Peter’s Square.

The Vatican has said the conclave to choose his successor could start earlier than originally expected, giving the Roman Catholic Church a new leader by mid-March.

Some 117 cardinals under the age of 80 will be eligible to enter the secretive conclave to elect Benedict’s successor. Church rules say the conclave has to start between 15 and 20 days after the papacy becomes vacant, which it will on February 28.

The pope will say one more Sunday noon prayer on February 24, hold a final general audience on February 27. The next day he will take a helicopter to the papal summer retreat at Castle Gandalf, south of Rome, flying into the history books.

Vatican officials said he would stay there for the two months or so needed to restore the convent inside the Vatican where he will live out his remaining years.

Photo: A priest displays a placard in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican as he follows Pope Benedict XVI reciting the Angelus prayer from the window of his apartments, Sunday.

NBC News

  • AntiFSA1

    And people say that Muslims are brainwashed. Just look at the follows of this corrupt pope and the corrupt Vatican. What the hell has the Vatican ever done for their followers. Please someone do tell me The money the Vatican generates a year could abolish poverty around the world. They are no better than Saudi Arabia and Qatar, externally they speak in the name of God, however in doors they do the opposite. Follow that, NEVER

    • master09

      Who do you think helps starving muslims Christian and other people who are homeless those hit by war, shelters around the world thousands of them , and things that I have worked with that you will never see by the church, or those movies you watch really tell the truth and nothing but the truth…
      The Muslim clerics and authorities, who do they help, oh, oh thats rite only muslim people….. I have seen millions from the Church been used to help the millions in Africa and soooo many other places…you say follow that, we do not need people like you… thanks…

      ROME — Over the centuries, the Vatican has been a magnet for legends, myths, and conspiracy theories such as that of the infamous (and completely fictitious) Pope Joan.

      In part this is because the odd dress, ritual, and language of the Holy See invite speculation, just like the Skull and Bones Society at Yale. It’s also because the Roman Catholic Church tends to excite strong passions, among both supporters and detractors, and all sorts of wild allegations that would not be taken seriously if attached to other institutions.

      It will be difficult, and in some cases impossible, for readers to let go of these myths, either because they feed their prejudices or because they’re simply too much fun.

      One can’t always blame outside forces for the promotion of certain myths, though. Sometimes the Vatican leads with its chin, as it often has on its alleged “fantastic wealth.” Consider the Vatican Bank scandals of the 1970s and 1980s, which combined shady business tactics with spectacular ineptitude on the part of key Vatican officials and their banker friends.

      The affair fired the imaginations of journalists and film-makers such as Francis Ford Coppola in his Godfather III. It solidified popular suspicions that Vatican officials spend as much time with spreadsheets as with prayer books and that the Vatican must be swimming in untold billions.

      Of course, you don’t need conspiracy theories to be dazzled by alleged Vatican wealth. The Vatican museums groan with some of the greatest artistic treasures known to humanity, I and at least some of the Vatican officials live and work in exquisite Baroque structures whose cash value defies reckoning.

      Over the years, these riches have scandalized and disillusioned many Christians who fail to see the connection between playing international currency markets and following Jesus.

      Reality is more prosaic. To put it bluntly, the Vatican is not rich. It has an annual operating budget of $260 million, which would not place it on any top 500 list of social institutions. To draw a comparison to the nonprofit sector, Harvard University has an annual operating budget of a little over $1.3 billion, which means it could run the equivalent of five Vaticans. This is to say nothing of the corporate world. Microsoft in 2002 spent $4.7 billion on research and development alone and has annual sales of $293 billion. On the scale of the world’s mammoth enterprises, the Vatican doesn’t rate.

      But is the Vatican sitting on a pile of wealth–such as real estate or artwork–that doesn’t show up in its annual budget? Michelangelo’s Pieta statue, the Sistine Chapel, or Raphael’s famous frescoes are all listed on the Vatican books at a value of 1 euro each. From the Vatican’s point of view, they are part of the artistic heritage of the world and may never be sold or borrowed against.

      One could argue that the personnel of the Holy See profit because they live and work in the midst of all this gorgeous art, but that doesn’t pay the …

      • 5thDrawer

        Yes, master09 …. collected artworks of great historical as well as artistic value for ALL of mankind to see – in any of the world’s great museums – do not translate into moveable or useable wealth. In the Vatican, most of them are symbols of a human development of ‘belief’, but not all. That ANYONE can go to see them these days is due as much to a belief in freedom as to the fact that the cost of storing and maintaining is quite high, and fees to enter all museums are necessary for their survival.

        Rome is easily accessible. Too bad that Timbuktu was not. Too bad that some think blowing faces off the treasured works of ancient societies and destroying histories of humankind is necessary. Yet many despots through history have had the desire to steal and secret away for their own short selfish appreciations of the art, or to cause it’s destruction for the base metals they may be made from. And despotic ‘religious’ or political philosophies are too willing to rewrite history for their own needs by destroying the records of ‘man’ from the past.

        It is good that humans invented ‘words’ and carved them in stone to pass on, and then pictures worth a thousand words in that stone, and finally worked up to Photography, then Lithography, and printed books that all the world may see it’s history. Should it choose to look.

        Transferring everything to ‘digital’ disseminates the information more widely, but consider how quickly it can all be lost forever … including these words. ;-)
        Back to the stone-age ….

        • master09

          As always . Perfecto.

          • 5thDrawer

            I guess for ‘some’ here I could have mentioned Yemen’s new SALEH museum – perhaps they would love to go see his uniforms through his ages. :-)))
            Personally I’m skipping that tour, even if the building itself is interesting … ;-)

      • AntiFSA1

        No, the question is where do you get your info from, You say the Vatican has a budget of 260 million a year. LOL, you must be their accountant. I have been to Vatican, they charge 30 euro to enter master09, 30 euro. for what. I suppose it’s for the maintenance. LOL. I spent 6 days in Rome and I witnessed 1000’s of people a day lining up to go in. Now if we were to say that on average only 1000 a day enter, over a 12 month period the entry alone would generate for them almost 111,000.000 a year and they have a budget of 260 million. LOL. Furthermore, not to mention the million a year they get from donations. Inside the Vatican their more jewels, diamonds and priceless artifacts than any place on earth. Why do they need all of this. Would Jesus (PBUH) approve of this knowing that there are people in the world starving while the Vatican is sitting on a gold mine. I think not. At the very least the Jesus I love and respect wouldn’t. The Jesus (PBUH) I love and respect was a giving man who had no money to his name, who didn’t walk around wearing a gold embroidered robe, or golden staff. Why does the Pope need all these luxuries. Show me one Islamic Cleric who walks around wearing that kind of attire. You see the Vatican is not a religious institute, it’s a money making machine put in place to lie and brainwash the masses. A bit like yourself. It was put in place to convince it’s follows to give large amounts of money in the name of God, however not knowing what the money is really for, just give and you will have eternal life in heaven. Do the masses even know where or what heaven really is, can you show it to me. PLEASE

        Now I’m not saying that the Vatican doesn’t do some charity on the surface, however I would say less than 5% actually goes to the poor. Now you speak of certain myths, conspiracy theories and speculations, Master09 there is a saying they say in Arabic and I will say it in English in the event you don’t understand Arabic well. “If you don’t eat garlic, your mouth won’t stink”. Obviously Somebody in the Vatican has eaten plenty of Garlic. After all their nation food is spaghetti which has plenty of Garlic in it.

        Now Master09 you need to understand, I am not having a go at the Catholic or Christian religion. I would never do that. My best friend is a hardcore Christian and although I have a different belief to him it doesn’t change the fact that we are loyal to each other and would never let religion get between our 25 year friendship. My issue is with the people who run these institutes whether they are Christians, Muslims, Jews or what ever. You need to remember Master09 that the 2 biggest money makers in the world are Religion and sex with religion being first.

        • Hannibal

          About your Catholic friend… Tell me… Have you been doing each others for 25 years?

          • AntiFSA1

            I said Christian HanniBALLS not Catholic. Like I said, it is known what you are full of. Kara

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually ‘Christian’ and ‘Catholic’ are synonymous. The various sects of the overall are differentiated by words like ‘Roman’, etc.

        • master09

          I never said that they dont have money, but do you understand that in Islam they and other store money but you will never hera of that rite…where in hell do you get 5% donation wow are you now the accountant… I spit amounts and it is shit, but when you spit amounts it makes it correct where did you get 5% from??????? Tell me and give me a figure, do you know how much the world church collectivly donate to the poor, hungry, homeless, muslims and Christians in war torn country or natural disastors… Tell me anti do you know a figure or are you going to make one up…Second tell me how much the islamic council of the world donate to NON muslims and help NON muslims . You did not want to touch on that subject did you….no did not think so because the % is so LOOOO it will not be more than a couple bucks……..
          How do you xpect the upkeep of the so call Vatican city and who employ hundreds if not thousands of people to make sure the people can see and enjoy these sites….
          So have you seen the gold and jewels and bla and bla stuff that you say they have, HAVE YOU SEEN THEM OR THE MOVIES IS WHAT YOU SEE….LOL HOW DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS AND WHY ARE YOUR FACTS BETTER THAN MINE….YOU TALK RUBBISH…UNLESS YOU HAVE PROOOOOOOOFFFFFF MATE……IT MAKES YOU IG

          So tell me why did the Crusades invade the ME.
          I will make it clear and simple for centuries what did the muslims do to the Christians, how many churches where burned how many Christians persecuted naming only one gentlemen ABUALI AL MANSUR AL HAKIM. what a gentleman he was yeh rite…so what did you xpect the church to do SIT AND WATCH THE MUSLIMS KILL ALL CHRISTIANS AND THEM TAKE OVER. OF COURSE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD THAT NEVER HAPPEND AT ALL DID IT OR YOU PEOPLE ARE NEVER TAUGHT THAT SIDE OF HISTORY… YOU ARE THE BIGGEST KEYBOARD WORRIOR , AT LEAST IN MY HEART I KNOW I HAVE HELPED MUSLIMS CHRISTIANS AND HUMANS OF ALL NATIONS NOT BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OR WHAT GOD THEY FOLLOWED BUT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED HELP…AND A HAND TO GIVE THEM HOPE…
          You say its the people who run them, I NEVER SEE YOU ATTACKING THE OTHER FAITHS LIKE YOU DO CHRISTIANITY…
          DONT WORRY I WILL GIVE MYSELF A DOWN.LOL

          • AntiFSA1

            And where the hell do you get your PROOOOOFFFFFF from mate. Master09, I have seen the Vatican first hand whether you believe it or not, doesn’t make a difference to me. I have no reason to lie. As for the 5%, I didn’t say this amount was fact I said it is what I believe Now can you PROOOOOOOOVVVVVE to me otherwise, I think not. no one can, not even the Pope himself. As for the Islamic council, Even if I was able to show you first hand, you wouldn’t believe me anyway because the brainwashing is to deep. I remember in one of your blogs your mention people are like sheep. Well you were not wrong, however the first thing you should do is look in the mirror. and tell me what you see.

            Now lets tap into the hundreds the Vatican employees, well obviously they need hundreds of employees, 10 to wipe the Popes ass, 10 to wipe his feet, 10 to wipe his face and so on and so forth. Now I ask you a question, would Jesus approve of this, tell me master09 would he. Was he in need of all this wealth and fame. It seems you are the one running away from questioning, not me.

          • master09

            So you paid the 10 bucks did you. First hand I believe you. It’s all about the pope and I am running from ????. Yeh that’s me lol. Your abject is the pope so what do you say they just hand the money like the Islamic faith does to the people lolWhere does that money go. You seem to know about the Vatican soooo much but nothing about where the halal money goes. Every institution needs money but to you only the Vatican is the one doing the wrong and the others are giving it away. Look what I see in the mirror lol. I look good.

            What about the subject of the crusades you missed that part. Oh I forget CHristians are the real wrong doers. You know they say ” push me and I will push back” or that’s not allowed by your side. The church for the fact spends in total hundreds of millions helping the poor in some form or another that is the real help. But the pope is your issue lol. Yes the pope should just give the world all the money while the rest sit on it good thinking 99. Talk about blind and will only. How is the Vatican on the inside. Let me tell you how and who get inside the Vatican , do you know how. Tell me how is it on the inside the you get a lot for the 10 bucks you paid. Lol
            So how much does your side donate or is the Vatican on your mind so much that you have no time to find about the other . Other faiths are lucky if they donate 5% of what the church donate and I am not going to say it any more I my self has helped build 21 centre for the poor from church money. Not my money I have non .so if you can not give figures than I alone according to you is not the only one talking shit..

          • 5thDrawer

            You guys could avoid all the conjecture by checking Wikipedia …. of course.
            Actually quite interesting – about a unique ‘City-State’. For instance:
            “The incomes and living standards of lay workers are comparable to those of counterparts who work in the city of Rome. Other industries include printing, the production of mosaics, and the manufacture of staff uniforms.”
            “The Vatican City State, which employs nearly 2000 people, had a surplus of 6.7 million euros in 2007 but ran a deficit in 2008 of over 15 million euros.”

            At any rate, there is also information about it’s ‘treasures’. And what it contributes to intellectual education in the world in general.
            You will probably find that in modern times, money donated for charities generally and largely stays in the places where it is collected for ‘local use’. And to blow another myth, allow me to say that churches DO pay taxes too on income and property – although in some countries they are allowed to write off certain parts or expenses – as any business can.
            And I too have done ‘the vatican tour’, Anti … even if not a ‘Roman’ Catholic. Well worth the price. Thank them for preserving some of the greatest art of human effort.

            By the way, Anti … the ladies in the tour-group didn’t have to cover up like they did on my Damascus Mosque tour … another work of art there …. just thought I’d mention.

          • IraniAngel

            its hard to take you seriously when your best argument is the caps

          • master09

            Haha have you come of your drug and seen what you wrote under 99% is not even close to the facts just your hate and the brainwashing that you get. I,m not looking for your poor minded person to take me seriously you should first see about taking yourself seriously . Lol . The only one subject you should think about is the two million Christian that where killed in Sudan in the name of your peaceful Islam. Lol your facts are fictional look at how the Muslims kill each other but that’s ok for you to turn a blind eye. Once blind always blind may The Lord take away your sins. I pray for you.

        • 5thDrawer

          Oh Anti … that last line sounds like Lebanon politics. We know where that money goes. ;-)
          (Quoted : ‘You need to remember Master09 that the 2 biggest money makers in the world are Religion and sex with religion being first.’)

          • AntiFSA1

            Sorry 5th, your point is. Or have you not got a point. Or are you as usual putting you 2 cents worth with the hope it makes you feel good about yourself. Looks like the Scotch is starting to effect you 5th. Rehab, he we come.

          • master09

            Only facts . Where does that halal money go. I guess like I said you know more about the Vatican money than you do about the halal money.

          • AntiFSA1

            The reason I haven’t answered this question is because I don’t know what you mean by halal money. So money that the corrupt Vatican gets is not Halal. Do you even know what Halal means. Please answer. Furthermore, I will start to take you serious when answer the question I put to you, Would Jesus approve of the way the Vatican is run or how the Corrupt Pope parades around.

          • AntiFSA1

            Furthermore Master09, I suggest you go on Youtube and type in “The Vatican Exposed”
            It will interest you how honest (NOT) you beloved Pope and Vatican really are.

          • AntiFSA1

            Also Master09 type in Google “VICARIUS FILII DEI and 666″ and this will explain to you who the Pope really is. Enjoy

          • master09

            Your kidding this is how low you will go to show how the Internet and an article can show you the truth. Wow no wonder why people are so brainwashed reading of the Internet , just like the movies and rap that people rite for the sake of what they think not facts just what they think. Funny is it not that you still will not tell me what happens to the halal money. Lol. The Vatican exposed your kidding, you reeding fantasy is what’s funny. I am not looking for you to take me serious, first take yourself serious that would be a good start.
            The money your faith collects that what I mean halal money, where does that go and who do they help with that money and how much they collect. You know about the Vatican by the Internet wow good for you. Jesus is the only perfect of everything, the Vatican is a human run institution just like Islam and I never said they where perfect at what they do, but for the help they give to charity no other religion be it Islam or government come even close to it. But I am not the one running in circles you are talking info from conspiracy story and no one yes no one knows what the Vatican has so how can they be true. Lol. Lets go round and round. Lol I will not waste time on a YouTube clip or a google crap written by someone in a basement. Waste your time on fiction and get brainwashed. Loooollllll

          • master09

            Better give myself a down arrow. Bad boy. Agree to disagree

          • AntiFSA1

            Yes Typical Master09, anything bad on youtube or Google written or spoken about your faith or your beloved Pope and Vatican is a conspiracy story, however anything bad written about Islam is true. As for the Halal money, the very same thing that Vatican does or so you claim does. is what Islam does. The difference is you choose to not see the good Islam does. Master09, there is good and bad is all religions. No religion tells it follows to do bad. It’s the individual that interpret it as such. My issue is not with the Vatican it’s self, It’s with the people who run it starting with the Corrupt Pope who calls himself the representative of God on earth. Who the F@@K gave the right to make such a claim. Name me one Islamic Cleric that has ever made that claim. None. You still haven’t answered my question why because you know the truth, you know that Jesus wouldn’t have approved of the way the corrupt Vatican is run and would defiantly not approve of the pope living an extravagant life at the expense of the poor. The only one brainwashed here my friend is you.

            As for what you said and I quote ” Jesus is the only perfect of everything” If this was true then please explain to me the Cleansing of the Temple when Jesus had an altercation with the money exchangers. The way he acted is not the action of a perfect man. It is the action of a man period. Jesus was of flesh and blood. Furthermore how shameful are you Christians or Catholics that parade in your homes, around your necks and in your Churches a statue of the man you call God dead on a Cross. And you claim that I’m Brainwashed. LOOOOOOOOOOOL. And what’s most funny is how you knew what he looked like so many years ago. I didn’t know that have digital cameras during his time. and I am the one that is brainwashed.

          • master09

            You see anti that’s the point I have been saying that you totally missed I have been saying ALL not Muslim or Islam but you have been saying VATICAn all day and all week . ALL the groups and religions anti that is my point , not yours because your tool busy bashing one side, poor man…… But you where so blind to see that is what I was saying. You where bashing one side and not talking about the rest. That is why I keeped asking you the ???????????. Lol

          • AntiFSA1

            Very enjoyable Master09. I look forward to our next one.

          • 5thDrawer

            Just ‘the usual’ Anti. Blogging in the faint hope of enlightening SOME people doesn’t seem to work as well as the scotch. The ones who need to read what a few sober heads write obviously never see it.

          • AntiFSA1

            Their you go 5th, you now made it 4 cents. However I suggest you don’t reply to me because your servant Master09 will be more than happy to. How I love romantic love story.

          • 5thDrawer

            Hard to double the money in a day. Thumbs up? ;-)

    • Hannibal

      spoken like a true degenerate know-it-all shit-reeking ass-mouthed biatch… What do you know about Caritas and the Catholic Charities. Before you blab your ignorant mouth do some research… What a jerk you are. FSA are gonna do you good soon enough. One more thing: When the Israelis were bombing the shit out of your south tell me how many nuns and churches and priests gave them shelter. Really man go get yourself some wahabi ass like you to pick a fight with. Jesus the nerves on some…

      • Prophettttt

        lol

        • AntiFSA1

          I wonder if Yalibnan admin are going to get upset with HanniBALLS. Which by the way are on his chin.

          • Hannibal

            Acknowledging my big balls is already a step into the right direction… You suck them and moan so it is about time you give them hommage you piece of 5hit.

          • AntiFSA1

            HanniBALLS, I laugh at people like you where I come from. big talk no action. I bet you are a tiny little man who has been slapped on the neck his whole life. Call Kara ya tizi

      • AntiFSA1

        Why are you upset you racist keyboard warrior. Does it hurt you when the truth is spoken about your fake religious figures. So it’s Ok for you point out some of short comings that some Islamic Clerics have, however as soon as the tables are turned you get abusive. The only biatch is you. Now tell me how you are 6 foot 4 and full of muscles And how you want to meet me so you can give me a hiding. Please tell me, It lightens up my day when I hear crap from people like you. Believe HanniBALLS, most on this blog know what you are full of. And it’s not muscles. LOL

        • Hannibal

          Anytime Anywhere my friend and bring a couple of malnourished shit-faced fartbag Southies with you.

  • AntiFSA1

    And people say that Muslims are brainwashed. Just look at the follows of this corrupt pope and the corrupt Vatican. What the hell has the Vatican ever done for their followers. Please someone do tell me The money the Vatican generates a year could abolish poverty around the world. They are no better than Saudi Arabia and Qatar, externally they speak in the name of God, however in doors they do the opposite. Follow that, NEVER

    • master09

      Who do you think helps starving muslims Christian and other people who are homeless those hit by war, shelters around the world thousands of them , and things that I have worked with that you will never see by the church, or those movies you watch really tell the truth and nothing but the truth…
      The Muslim clerics and authorities, who do they help, oh, oh thats rite only muslim people….. I have seen millions from the Church been used to help the millions in Africa and soooo many other places…you say follow that, we do not need people like you… thanks…

      • 5thDrawer

        Yes, master09 …. collected artworks of great historical as well as artistic value for ALL of mankind to see – in any of the world’s great museums – do not translate into moveable or useable wealth. In the Vatican, most of them are symbols of a human development of ‘belief’, but not all. That ANYONE can go to see them these days is due as much to a belief in freedom as to the fact that the cost of storing and maintaining is quite high, and fees to enter all museums are necessary for their survival.

        Rome is easily accessible. Too bad that Timbuktu was not. Too bad that some think blowing faces off the treasured works of ancient societies and destroying histories of humankind is necessary. Yet many despots through history have had the desire to steal and secret away for their own short selfish appreciations of the art, or to cause it’s destruction for the base metals they may be made from. And despotic ‘religious’ or political philosophies are too willing to rewrite history for their own needs by destroying the records of ‘man’ from the past.

        It is good that humans invented ‘words’ and carved them in stone to pass on, and then pictures worth a thousand words in that stone, and finally worked up to Photography, then Lithography, and printed books that all the world may see it’s history. Should it choose to look.

        Transferring everything to ‘digital’ disseminates the information more widely, but consider how quickly it can all be lost forever … including these words. ;-)

        • master09

          As always . Perfecto.

          • 5thDrawer

            I guess for ‘some’ here I could have mentioned Yemen’s new SALEH museum – perhaps they would love to go see his uniforms through his ages. :-)))

      • AntiFSA1

        No, the question is where do you get your info from, You say the Vatican has a budget of 260 million a year. LOL, you must be their accountant. I have been to Vatican, they charge 30 euro to enter master09, 30 euro. for what. I suppose it’s for the maintenance. LOL. I spent 6 days in Rome and I witnessed 1000’s of people a day lining up to go in. Now if we were to say that on average only 1000 a day enter, over a 12 month period the entry alone would generate for them almost 111,000.000 a year and they have a budget of 260 million. LOL. Furthermore, not to mention the million a year they get from donations. Inside the Vatican their more jewels, diamonds and priceless artifacts than any place on earth. Why do they need all of this. Would Jesus (PBUH) approve of this knowing that there are people in the world starving while the Vatican is sitting on a gold mine. I think not. At the very least the Jesus I love and respect wouldn’t. The Jesus (PBUH) I love and respect was a giving man who had no money to his name, who didn’t walk around wearing a gold embroidered robe, or golden staff. Why does the Pope need all these luxuries. Show me one Islamic Cleric who walks around wearing that kind of attire. You see the Vatican is not a religious institute, it’s a money making machine put in place to lie and brainwash the masses. A bit like yourself. It was put in place to convince it’s follows to give large amounts of money in the name of God, however not knowing what the money is really for, just give and you will have eternal life in heaven. Do the masses even know where or what heaven really is, can you show it to me. PLEASE

        Now I’m not saying that the Vatican doesn’t do some charity on the surface, however I would say less than 5% actually goes to the poor. Now you speak of certain myths, conspiracy theories and speculations, Master09 there is a saying they say in Arabic and I will say it in English in the event you don’t understand Arabic well. “If you don’t eat garlic, your mouth won’t stink”. Obviously Somebody in the Vatican has eaten plenty of Garlic. After all their nation food is spaghetti which has plenty of Garlic in it.

        Now Master09 you need to understand, I am not having a go at the Catholic or Christian religion. I would never do that. My best friend is a hardcore Christian and although I have a different belief to him it doesn’t change the fact that we are loyal to each other and would never let religion get between our 25 year friendship. My issue is with the people who run these institutes whether they are Christians, Muslims, Jews or what ever. You need to remember Master09 that the 2 biggest money makers in the world are Religion and sex with religion being first.

        • Hannibal

          About your Catholic friend… Tell me… Have you been doing each others for 25 years?

          • AntiFSA1

            I said Christian HanniBALLS not Catholic. Like I said, it is known what you are full of. Kara

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually ‘Christian’ and ‘Catholic’ are synonymous. The various sects of the overall are differentiated by words like ‘Roman’, etc.

        • master09

          I never said that they dont have money, but do you understand that in Islam they and other store money but you will never hera of that rite…where in hell do you get 5% donation wow are you now the accountant… I spit amounts and it is shit, but when you spit amounts it makes it correct where did you get 5% from??????? Tell me and give me a figure, do you know how much the world church collectivly donate to the poor, hungry, homeless, muslims and Christians in war torn country or natural disastors… Tell me anti do you know a figure or are you going to make one up…Second tell me how much the islamic council of the world donate to NON muslims and help NON muslims . You did not want to touch on that subject did you….no did not think so because the % is so LOOOO it will not be more than a couple bucks……..
          How do you xpect the upkeep of the so call Vatican city and who employ hundreds if not thousands of people to make sure the people can see and enjoy these sites….
          So have you seen the gold and jewels and bla and bla stuff that you say they have, HAVE YOU SEEN THEM OR THE MOVIES IS WHAT YOU SEE….LOL HOW DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS AND WHY ARE YOUR FACTS BETTER THAN MINE….YOU TALK RUBBISH…UNLESS YOU HAVE PROOOOOOOOFFFFFF MATE……IT MAKES YOU IG

          • AntiFSA1

            And where the hell do you get your PROOOOOFFFFFF from mate. Master09, I have seen the Vatican first hand whether you believe it or not, doesn’t make a difference to me. I have no reason to lie. As for the 5%, I didn’t say this amount was fact I said it is what I believe Now can you PROOOOOOOOVVVVVE me otherwise, I think not. no one can, not even the Pope himself. As for the Islamic council, Even if I was able to show you first hand, you wouldn’t believe me anyway because the brainwashing is to deep. I remember in one of your blogs your mention people are like sheep. Well you were not wrong, however the first thing you should do is look in the mirror. and tell me what you see.

            Now lets tap into the hundreds the Vatican employees, well obviously they need hundreds of employees, 10 to wipe the Popes ass, 10 to wipe his feet, 10 to wipe his face and so on and so forth. Now I ask you a question, would Jesus approve of this, tell me master09 would he. Was he in need of all this wealth and fame. It seems you are the one running away from questioning, not me.

          • master09

            So you paid the 10 bucks did you. First hand I believe you. It’s all about the pope and I am running from ????. Yeh that’s me lol. Your abject is the pope so what do you say they just hand the money like the Islamic faith does to the people lolWhere does that money go. You seem to know about the Vatican soooo much but nothing about where the halal money goes. Every institution needs money but to you only the Vatican is the one doing the wrong and the others are giving it away. Look what I see in the mirror lol. I look good.

            What about the subject of the crusades you missed that part. Oh I forget CHristians are the real wrong doers. You know they say ” push me and I will push back” or that’s not allowed by your side. The church for the fact spends in total hundreds of millions helping the poor in some form or another that is the real help. But the pope is your issue lol. Yes the pope should just give the world all the money while the rest sit on it good thinking 99. Talk about blind and will only. How is the Vatican on the inside. Let me tell you how and who get inside the Vatican , do you know how. Tell me how is it on the inside the you get a lot for the 10 bucks you paid. Lol
            So how much does your side donate or is the Vatican on your mind so much that you have no time to find about the other . Other faiths are lucky if they donate 5% of what the church donate and I am not going to say it any more I my self has helped build 21 centre for the poor from church money. Not my money I have non .so if you can not give figures than I alone according to you is not the only one talking shit..

          • 5thDrawer

            You guys could avoid all the conjecture by checking Wikipedia …. of course.
            Actually quite interesting – about a unique ‘City-State’. For instance:
            “The incomes and living standards of lay workers are comparable to those of counterparts who work in the city of Rome. Other industries include printing, the production of mosaics, and the manufacture of staff uniforms.”
            “The Vatican City State, which employs nearly 2000 people, had a surplus of 6.7 million euros in 2007 but ran a deficit in 2008 of over 15 million euros.”

            At any rate, there is also information about it’s ‘treasures’. And what it contributes to intellectual education in the world in general.
            You will probably find that in modern times, money donated for charities generally and largely stays in the places where it is collected for ‘local use’. And to blow another myth, allow me to say that churches DO pay taxes too on income and property – although in some countries they are allowed to write off certain parts or expenses – as any business can.
            And I too have done ‘the vatican tour’, Anti … even if not a ‘Roman’ Catholic. Well worth the price. Thank them for preserving some of the greatest art of human effort.

          • IraniAngel

            its hard to take you seriously when your best argument is the caps

          • master09

            Haha have you come of your drug and seen what you wrote under 99% is not even close to the facts just your hate and the brainwashing that you get. I,m not looking for your poor minded person to take me seriously you should first see about taking yourself seriously . Lol . The only one subject you should think about is the two million Christian that where killed in Sudan in the name of your peaceful Islam. Lol your facts are fictional look at how the Muslims kill each other but that’s ok for you to turn a blind eye. Once blind always blind may The Lord take away your sins. I pray for you.

        • 5thDrawer

          Oh Anti … that last line sounds like Lebanon politics. We know where that money goes. ;-)

          • AntiFSA1

            Sorry 5th, your point is. Or have you not got a point. Or are you as usual putting you 2 cents worth with the hope it makes you feel good about yourself. Looks like the Scotch is starting to effect you 5th. Rehab, he we come.

          • master09

            Only facts . Where does that halal money go. I guess like I said you know more about the Vatican money than you do about the halal money.

          • AntiFSA1

            The reason I haven’t answered this question is because I don’t know what you mean by halal money. So money that the corrupt Vatican gets is not Halal. Do you even know what Halal means. Please answer. Furthermore, I will start to take you serious when answer the question I put to you, Would Jesus approve of the way the Vatican is run or how the Corrupt Pope parades around.

          • AntiFSA1

            Furthermore Master09, I suggest you go on Youtube and type in “The Vatican Exposed”
            It will interest you how honest (NOT) you beloved Pope and Vatican really are.

          • AntiFSA1

            Also Master09 type in Google “VICARIUS FILII DEI and 666″ and this will explain to you who the Pope really is. Enjoy

          • master09

            Your kidding this is how low you will go to show how the Internet and an article can show you the truth. Wow no wonder why people are so brainwashed reading of the Internet , just like the movies and rap that people rite for the sake of what they think not facts just what they think. Funny is it not that you still will not tell me what happens to the halal money. Lol. The Vatican exposed your kidding, you reeding fantasy is what’s funny. I am not looking for you to take me serious, first take yourself serious that would be a good start.
            The money your faith collects that what I mean halal money, where does that go and who do they help with that money and how much they collect. You know about the Vatican by the Internet wow good for you. Jesus is the only perfect of everything, the Vatican is a human run institution just like Islam and I never said they where perfect at what they do, but for the help they give to charity no other religion be it Islam or government come even close to it. But I am not the one running in circles you are talking info from conspiracy story and no one yes no one knows what the Vatican has so how can they be true. Lol. Lets go round and round. Lol I will not waste time on a YouTube clip or a google crap written by someone in a basement. Waste your time on fiction and get brainwashed. Loooollllll

          • master09

            Better give myself a down arrow. Bad boy. Agree to disagree

          • AntiFSA1

            Yes Typical Master09, anything bad on youtube or Google written or spoken about your faith or your beloved Pope and Vatican is a conspiracy story, however anything bad written about Islam is true. As for the Halal money, the very same thing that Vatican does or so you claim does. is what Islam does. The difference is you choose to not see the good Islam does. Master09, there is good and bad is all religions. No religion tells it follows to do bad. It’s the individual that interpret it as such. My issue is not with the Vatican it’s self, It’s with the people who run it starting with the Corrupt Pope who calls himself the representative of God on earth. Who the F@@K gave the right to make such a claim. Name me one Islamic Cleric that has ever made that claim. None. You still haven’t answered my question why because you know the truth, you know that Jesus wouldn’t have approved of the way the corrupt Vatican is run and would defiantly not approve of the pope living an extravagant life at the expense of the poor. The only one brainwashed here my friend is you.

            As for what you said and I quote ” Jesus is the only perfect of everything” If this was true then please explain to me the Cleansing of the Temple when Jesus had an altercation with the money exchangers. The way he acted is not the action of a perfect man. It is the action of a man period. Jesus was of flesh and blood. Furthermore how shameful are you Christians or Catholics that parade in your homes, around your necks and in your Churches a statue of the man you call God dead on a Cross. And you claim that I’m Brainwashed. LOOOOOOOOOOOL. And what’s most funny is how you knew what he looked like so many years ago. I didn’t know that have digital cameras during his time. and I am the one that is brainwashed.

          • master09

            You see anti that’s the point I have been saying that you totally missed I have been saying ALL not Muslim or Islam but you have been saying VATICAn all day and all week . ALL anti that is my point not yours. But you where so blind to see that is what I was saying. You where bashing one side and not talking about the rest. That is why I keeped asking you the ???????????. Lol

          • AntiFSA1

            For enjoyable Master09. I look forward to our next one.

          • 5thDrawer

            Just ‘the usual’ Anti. Blogging in the faint hope of enlightening SOME people doesn’t seem to work as well as the scotch. The ones who need to read what a few sober heads write obviously never see it.

          • AntiFSA1

            Their you go 5th, you now made it 4 cents. However I suggest you don’t reply to me because your servant Master09 will be more than happy to. How I love romantic love story.

          • 5thDrawer

            Hard to double the money in a day. Thumbs up? ;-)

    • Hannibal

      spoken like a true degenerate know-it-all shit-reeking ass-mouthed biatch… What do you know about Caritas and the Catholic Charities. Before you blab your ignorant mouth do some research… What a jerk you are. FSA are gonna do you good soon enough. One more thing: When the Israelis were bombing the shit out of your south tell me how many nuns and churches and priests gave them shelter. Really man go get yourself some wahabi ass like you to pick a fight with. Jesus the nerves on some…

      • Prophettttt

        lol

        • AntiFSA1

          I wonder if Yalibnan admin are going to get upset with HanniBALLS. Which by the way are on his chin.

          • Hannibal

            Acknowledging my big balls is already a step into the right direction… You suck them and moan so it is about time you give them hommage you piece of 5hit.

          • AntiFSA1

            HanniBALLS, I laugh at people like you where I come from. big talk no action. I bet you are a tiny little man who has been slapped on neck his whole life. Call Kara ya tizi

      • AntiFSA1

        Why are you upset you racist keyboard warrior. Does it hurt you when the truth is spoken about your fake religious
        figures. So it’s Ok for you point out some of short comings that some Islamic Clerics have, however as soon as the tables are turned you get abusive. The only biatch is you. Now tell me how you are 6 foot 4 and full of muscles And how you want to meet me so you can give me a hiding. Please tell me, It lightens up my day when I hear crap from people like you. Believe HanniBALLS, most on this blog know what you are full of. And it’s not muscles. LOL

        • Hannibal

          Anytime Anywhere my friend and bring a couple of malnourished shit-faced fartbag Southies with you.

  • IraniAngel

    Christianity is a sick, bloodthirsty, murderous religion. wherever there is a war or other kind of misery the christians are involved:

    middle east:

    1.generally speaking this region has been victim of christian oppression in more than 1400 years. from the crusades in the past to the neo colonial-christian ideology today.

    2: the christian minority in egypt backed and supported the tyrannic and supressing regime of mubarak in three decades.

    3: Lebanon: Christians were involved in 15 years of civil war.

    4: IrAngel: this great and peaceful nation was attacked by the christian proxy saddam hussein. this war claimed over a MILLION civilians on both sides.

    5: Iraq: this country is till this day a battlefield for the christian warmongers.

    6. Israel: the poor jews were nearly eliminated by the christians and forced millions of jews to leave there homeland. fortunately iran and the jewish people are very good friends and if it wasnt for irAngel, there would hardly be any jew nowadays. IrAngel and Israel are in fact historically connected and at times Israel was the only friend that IrAngel had in the region and vica versa. now the christians want to play these two great people off against each other in order to control both of us! Niether the jews nor the IraniAngels should allow that happen!!!! these two proud nations should fight against our common christian enemy. if only the lovely jewish people could get rid of the zionists, which is a christian proxy terrorist innovation, there would be peace in the entire middle east.

    Americas:

    7: In the untied $hit of AmeriCancer you can legally kill anybody you desire, anywhere, at any time. highschool shootings is only one example of the madness of christianity!!! their criminal regime is not any better at all and is doing a great job killing innocent people all around the globe.

    8. Mexico: christian drugdealers are invovled in a gang war that has claimed more than 60 000 lives since 2006.

    9: in general christian latin american countries can pride themselves of having the aboslut highest crime rates in the whole world. basically you cannot walk on the street without getting killed by a christian!

    Africa:

    10: this entire continent has been ruined and colonized by the fanatic christians.

    Asia:

    11: Vietnam: christians killed more than 6 million vietnamese!

    12: Korean peninsula: a christian promoted war that clamied more than 2.5 million lives and keeps claiming lives to this very day!

    Australia:

    13: the aboriginal australians were wipped out by the christians.

    Europe:

    14: Dont even let me start on nasty european history.

    Of course the list goes on and on and on and on……….. to no end! Christianity has brought nothing but misery to all parts of the world!

    I call on all people of every faith to unite – let it be muslims, jews, buddhists, hinduists, sun worshippers, ass worshippers, rat worshippers against this christian illness, this christian sickness, this christian madness, this christian sadness, this christian craziness, this christian stupidness, this christian fuckness, this christian assness, this christian dickness.

    how long are we gonna stand by and watch the christians level our countries, our towns, our homes to the ground????? wake up people, wake up! fight them for the sake of humanity, fight them for the sake of god!

    • 5thDrawer

      Errrrr … I take it you were not enamoured by Christianity. ;-)

      • Hannibal

        Very much so… This sounds to me that IraniDevil has issues with his Christian father… he he

    • Hannibal

      Showing your true colors… A lesser human dressed up as a pig coming out of this shit-hole called Ayran (two dicks).

    • Beiruti

      You also forgot to say that the Roman Catholic Church gives more to the poor than any other charity in the world. Since I have nothing better to do with my life today, lets go over everything you said, you sound like a very uneducated peasant but anyways i will waste my precious time on you.

      1. The Coptics supported Mubarak, wow big deal! Because Nasser in the 1950s was definitely not an oppressive leader! And Morsi is a clean, honest, and caring leader (sarcasm)! The Coptics are a minority in Egypt, minorities tend to favor those who can offer them protection. Coptics aren’t even allowed to build their churches, only expand them (and that’s if the government is feeling generous). It has nothing to do based on religion, you ignorant scumbag. Look at the Druze in Lebanon, they kiss anyones ass as long as their minority can be protected. There is nothing wrong with that, the Shi’ites in the 40s and 50s in Lebanon allied with the Maronites because they were afraid of Sunni leadership. So clearly you can see this is not a religion thing.

      2. Christians were involved in 15 years of the Lebanon Civil War! OH MY GOD! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Thanks for stating the obvious you prick! Because all the Lebanese people on this site didn’t know that the Lebanese Forces, Kataeb, FPM, and Marada are Christian groups! Irani, are you also telling me that the Sunnis, Shi’ites and Druze are nowhere to be found in the 15 year conflict? Irani, did you get a PhD in Lebanese History? Is that why you’re telling this blog that Christians live in Lebanon?! You indeed are a very smart man.

      3. Let’s get this straight forward very fast, America is NOT a Christian nation, it is a nation that a MAJORITY of its population is Christian, but its NOT a Christian nation. America is the father of secularism, and it’s laws clearly prove that. If America was a Christian nation, the Christians of the East would have been protected, but they do not care. Saddam Hussein is a Muslim, but no still blame the Christians.

      4. The Pope has apologized for the Crusades, the Witch Hunts, and other crimes committed by the Catholic Church. Tell me one! TELL ME ONE F**KING MUSLIM CLERIC, MUFTI, LEADER, PRESIDENT WHO APOLOGIZED FOR THE ACTIONS OF VIOLENT MUSLIMS! 15/19 9/11 Hijackers were from Saudi Arabia! Did Saudi Arabia even condemn the attacks? That’s what i thought!

      5. Why are you labeling all Americans and Mexicans as Christians? Are those Mexicans dealing drugs in the name of Christianity? Did the Americans kill 6 million Vietnamese in the name of Christianity? The Sudanese killed 2 million Christians in the last 3 decades, and that was in the name of Islam! You are not a Christian because you wear a rosary or cross around your neck. Those Mexican drug dealers aren’t Christians! Nowhere in the Bible does it say “Thou shall sell drugs”. People like Martin Luther King have the beautiful opportunity to call themselves Christian. You are a very ignorant man my friend, and i can honestly hope one day you won’t be so rude and closeminded.

      6. Oh Latin America has a high crime rate? Is all of Latin America the New Vatican Continent? Who are you to label all those people as Christians? Anyone can be Christian by name, but not by actions.

      7. LOL you said “poor jews”, yeah because you suddenly care about the Jews now! You are a very dirty hypocrite. Yes, because the Jews are treated so well in Arab countries now! We honestly gave them a 7 star hotel treatment.

      You are a dog, go on an iranian website, you dirty peasant.

      • 5thDrawer

        I begin to think, Beiruti, there is a basic problem with minds that are forcibly bent at early ages to learn from only one book (which dictates every minute of living and is called a ‘religion’), in that forever after they must relate everything ‘good or bad’ to it; and think that all those in the world who did not ‘grow’ that way must necessarily have been formed by the ‘other’ competitive ‘religions’.
        How else to explain the ‘One God’ being so widely misinterpreted over the ages?
        There is no allowance for a natural free and inquisitve mind because that cannot be imagined as possible, although those minds can also be of the character of ‘good or bad’ in relation to fellow humans, except through the narrowed fields of view.

        More like a horse with blinders, Beiruti.
        We could horse-whip him if we had a horse. ;-)

      • AntiFSA1

        Oh, the Pope apologized for the Crusades. Well that just make it all Ok doesn’t it. And you are correct, Anyone can be Christian by name, but not by actions. Same in Islam Beiruti. Maybe you and some of the other bloggers on this site should practise what you preach and not tarnish all Muslim people with same brush. Or does you faith not allow you to do such.

        • master09

          Has any Muslim cleric apologized for how many CHRISTIAN where and are been kill today..by muslims and we are not talking 29 0r 50 in one subject lets talk 2million or is that a made up number….look at Africa as one example….millions been killied, who will apologize for them. Yes a crusade is the only way……….or should we let islam killl us offfff…sit and watch while it just hits us in the head….wow

        • Beiruti

          Those Mexican drug dealers and American soldiers weren’t killing in the name of Christianity. The Muslims in Sudan are slaughtering in the name of Islam, this is the 21st century, wake up! The time of the Crusades was an era in which armies killed each other for land and other purposes, and the Pope still apologized even though it was unnecessary especially for that time era. The Catholic Church has a lot of corruption, but your friend above was talking about European treatment of Jews, yet he does not know that the Catholic Church saved 800,000 Jews during World War 2, and gives more to the poor than any other organization in the world. There may be a lot of rapist priests and other dirt in the Catholic Churches, but Christians are followers of Jesus Christ not a priest, pope or anything else, those are their for our guidance and enhancing our morality.

      • IraniAngel

        jugding by the “hits” box on the front page this site is an iraniAngel website more than it is a lebanese you tosser.

        • 5thDrawer

          There’s a ‘hits’ box? Oh my … well, batter up. :-) But I think you’ve got more strikes ….

          • IraniAngel

            dont worry, i can take it.. as the saying goes: life is rough so you gotta be tough

      • IraniAngel

        i care more about the jews than you care about your soul. and by the way you say you dont want to waste your precious time on me. well i bet your time is the only precious thing you have.

    • daibers

      yu sung fu mr yu no sheaa mr yu like zioniste mr no good mr

      • Patience2

        I’ve missed you, Dab, good to see you again.

    • Patience2

      Spoken like the ‘fruit-fly’ that you’ve now shown yourself to be.

    • Patience2

      It’s odd, how most everything of what you say most accurately applies, actually, to Islam! Could you have (possibly) made a misteak when you chose the first word in your explosion??

    • master09

      Wow where do you get your info from please send me to that site or person who has brain washed that very tiny pea of yours . The best part 15 years of civil war. Your history is amazing wow . Every Muslim talks about the crusades. Tell me why did they go to the ME. Don’t tell me because what the Muslims was doing to CHristians what did you xpect them to do sit and watch them do as they wanted. But in your teaching you guys did nothing to the CHristians. How many churches and Christians are burned every day around the world only because they are CHristians. But when your blind your blind. Tell me if you know how we help Muslims in war zones floods fires, the old the sick and anyone that needs help because they are humans. We do not ask them if they are CHristians first before we help them . Your info must come from that brainwashing imam that sits in a bunker and spreads butter on your lips. Lol I will not say you are uneducated but MISEDUCATED poor soul I feel sorry that someone bends you over and shoves this crap in the wrong hall.
      You talk about drug dealer wow look at the biggest grower of opium Afghanistan with PAkistan not far of about 6th on the list. Your poor blind person I do feel that you are wasting your time learning bullshit in that bunker you live in.

      Look at what the Muslims do to each other in Syria, Pakistan , Afghanistan, Iraq just to name a few , perfect yes.

  • IraniAngel

    Christianity is a sick, bloodthirsty, murderous religion. wherever there is a war or other kind of misery the christians are involved:

    middle east:

    1.generally speaking this region has been victim of christian oppression in more than 1400 years. from the crusades in the past to the neo colonial-christian ideology to day.

    2: the christian minority in egypt backed and supported the tyrannic and supressing regime of mubarak in three decades.

    3: Lebanon: Christians were involved in 15 years of civil war.

    4: IrAngel: this great and peaceful nation was attacked by the christian proxy saddam hussein. this war claimed over a MILLION civilians on both sides.

    5: Iraq: this country is till this day a battlefield for the christian warmongers.

    6. Israel: the poor jews were nearly eliminated by the christians and forced millions of jews to leave there homeland. fortunately iran and the jewish people are very good friends and if it wasnt for irAngel, there would hardly be any jew nowadays. IrAngel and Israel are in fact historically bounded and at times Israel was the only friend that IrAngel had in the region and vica versa. now the christians want to play these two great people off against each other in order to control both of us! Niether the jews nor the IraniAngels should allow that happen!!!! these two proud nations should fight against our common christian enemy. if only the lovely jewish people could get rid of the zionists, which is a christian proxy terrorist innovation, there would be peace in the entire middle east.

    Americas:

    7: In the untied $hit of AmeriCancer you can legally kill anybody you desire, anywhere, at any time. highschool shootings is only one example of the madness of christianity!!! their criminel regime is not any better at all and is doing a great job killing innocent people all around the globe.

    8. Mexico: christian drugdealers are invovled in a gang war that has claimed more than 60 000 lives since 2006.

    9: in general christian latin american countries can pride themselves of having the aboslut highest crime rates in the whole world. basically you cannot walk on the street without getting killed by a christian!

    Africa:

    10: this entire continent has been ruined and colonized by the fanatic christians.

    Asia:

    11: Vietnam: christians killed more than 6 million vietnamese!

    12: Korean peninsula: a christian promoted war that clamied more than 2.5 million lives and keeps claiming lives to this very day!

    Australia:

    13: the aboriginal australians were wiped out by the christians.

    Europe:

    14: Dont even let me start on nasty european history.

    Of course the list goes on and on and on and on……….. to no end! Christianity has brought nothing but misery to all parts of the world!

    I call on all people of every faith to unite – let it be muslims, jews, buddhists, hinduists, sun worshippers, ass worshippers, rat worshippers against this christian illness, this christian sickness, this christian madness, this christian sadness, this christian craziness, this christian stupidness, this christian fuckness, this christian assness, this christian dickness.

    how long are we gonna stand by and watch the christians level our contries, our towns, our homes to the ground????? wake up people, wake up! fight them for the sake of humanity, fight them for the sake of god!

    • 5thDrawer

      Errrrr … I take it you were not enamoured by Christianity. ;-)

      • Hannibal

        Very much so… This sounds to me that IraniDevil has issues with his Christian father… he he

    • Hannibal

      Showing your true colors… A lesser human dressed up as a pig.

    • Beiruti

      You also forgot to say that the Roman Catholic Church gives more to the poor than any other charity in the world. Since I have nothing better to do with my life today, lets go over everything you said, you sound like a very uneducated peasant but anyways i will waste my precious time on you.

      1. The Coptics supported Mubarak, wow big deal! Because Nasser in the 1950s was definitely not an oppressive leader! And Morsi is a clean, honest, and caring leader (sarcasm)! The Coptics are a minority in Egypt, minorities tend to favor those who can offer them protection. Coptics aren’t even allowed to build their churches, only expand them (and that’s if the government is feeling generous). It has nothing to do based on religion, you ignorant scumbag. Look at the Druze in Lebanon, they kiss anyones ass as long as their minority can be protected. There is nothing wrong with that, the Shi’ites in the 40s and 50s in Lebanon allied with the Maronites because they were afraid of Sunni leadership. So clearly you can see this is not a religion thing.

      2. Christians were involved in 15 years of the Lebanon Civil War! OH MY GOD! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Thanks for stating the obvious you prick! Because all the Lebanese people on this site didn’t know that the Lebanese Forces, Kataeb, FPM, and Marada are Christian groups! Irani, are you also telling me that the Sunnis, Shi’ites and Druze are nowhere to be found in the 15 year conflict? Irani, did you get a PhD in Lebanese History? Is that why you’re telling this blog that Christians live in Lebanon?! You indeed are a very smart man.

      3. Let’s get this straight forward very fast, America is NOT a Christian nation, it is a nation that a MAJORITY of its population is Christian, but its NOT a Christian nation. America is the father of secularism, and it’s laws clearly prove that. If America was a Christian nation, the Christians of the East would have been protected, but they do not care. Saddam Hussein is a Muslim, but no still blame the Christians.

      4. The Pope has apologized for the Crusades, the Witch Hunts, and other crimes committed by the Catholic Church. Tell me one! TELL ME ONE F**KING MUSLIM CLERIC, MUFTI, LEADER, PRESIDENT WHO APOLOGIZED FOR THE ACTIONS OF VIOLENT MUSLIMS! 15/19 9/11 Hijackers were from Saudi Arabia! Did Saudi Arabia even condemn the attacks? That’s what i thought!

      5. Why are you labeling all Americans and Mexicans as Christians? Are those Mexicans dealing drugs in the name of Christianity? Did the Americans kill 6 million Vietnamese in the name of Christianity? The Sudanese killed 2 million Christians in the last 3 decades, and that was in the name of Christianity! You are not a Christian because you wear a rosary or cross around your neck. Those Mexican drug dealers aren’t Christians! Nowhere in the Bible does it say “Thou shall sell drugs”. People like Martin Luther King have the beautiful opportunity to call themselves Christian. You are a very ignorant man my friend, and i can honestly hope one day you won’t be so rude and closeminded.

      6. Oh Latin America has a high crime rate? Is all of Latin America the New Vatican Continent? Who are you to label all those people as Christians? Anyone can be Christian by name, but not by actions.

      7. LOL you said “poor jews”, yeah because you suddenly care about the Jews now! You are a very dirty hypocrite. Yes, because the Jews are treated so well in Arab countries now! We honestly gave them a 7 star hotel treatment.

      You are a dog, go on an iranian website, you dirty peasant.

      • 5thDrawer

        I begin to think, Beiruti, there is a basic problem with minds that are forcibly bent at early ages to learn from only one book (which dictates every minute of living and is called a ‘religion’), in that forever after they must relate everything ‘good or bad’ to it; and think that all those in the world who did not ‘grow’ that way must necessarily have been formed by the ‘other’ competitive ‘religions’.
        How else to explain the ‘One God’ being so widely misinterpreted over the ages?
        There is no allowance for a natural free and inquisitve mind because that cannot be imagined as possible, although those minds can also be of the character of ‘good or bad’ in relation to fellow humans, except through the narrowed fields of view.

        More like a horse with blinders, Beiruti.
        We could horse-whip him if we had a horse. ;-)

      • AntiFSA1

        Oh, the Pope apologized for the Crusades. Well that just make it all Ok doesn’t it. And you are correct, Anyone can be Christian by name, but not by actions. Same in Islam Beiruti. Maybe you and some of the other bloggers on this site should practise what you preach and not tarnish all Muslim people with same brush. Or does you faith not allow you to do such.

        • master09

          Has any Muslim cleric apologized for how many CHRISTIAN where and are been kill today..by muslims and we are not talking 29 0r 50 in one subject lets talk 2million or is that a made up number….look at Africa as one example….millions been killied, who will apologize for them. Yes a crusade is the only way……….or should we let islam killl us offfff…sit and watch while it just hits us in the head….wow

        • Beiruti

          Those Mexican drug dealers and American soldiers weren’t killing in the name of Christianity. The Muslims in Sudan are slaughtering in the name of Islam, this is the 21st century, wake up! The time of the Crusades was an era in which armies killed each other for land and other purposes, and the Pope still apologized even though it was unnecessary especially for that time era. The Catholic Church has a lot of corruption, but your friend above was talking about European treatment of Jews, yet he does not know that the Catholic Church saved 800,000 Jews during World War 2, and gives more to the poor than any other organization in the world. There may be a lot of rapist priests and other dirt in the Catholic Churches, but Christians are followers of Jesus Christ not a priest, pope or anything else, those are their for our guidance and enhancing our morality.

      • IraniAngel

        this site is more an iraniAngel website than a lebanese you tosser

        • 5thDrawer

          There’s a ‘hits’ box? Oh my … well, batter up. :-) But I think you’ve got more strikes ….

          • IraniAngel

            dont worry, i can take it.. as the saying goes: life is rough so you gotta be tough

      • IraniAngel

        i care more about the jews than you care about you soul. and by the way you say you dont want to waste your precious time on me. well i bet your time is the only precious thing you have.

    • daibers

      yu sung fu mr yu no sheaa mr yu like zioniste mr no good mr

      • Patience2

        I’ve missed you, Dab, good to see you again.

    • Patience2

      Spoken like the ‘fruit-fly’ that you’ve now shown yourself to be.

    • Patience2

      It’s odd, how most everything of what you say most accurately applies, actually, to Islam! Could you have (possibly) made a misteak when you chose the first word in your explosion??

    • master09

      Wow where do you get your info from please send me to that site or person who has brain washed that very tiny pea of yours . The best part 15 years of civil war. Your history is amazing wow . Every Muslim talks about the crusades. Tell me why did they go to the ME. Don’t tell me because what the Muslims was doing to CHristians what did you xpect them to do sit and watch them do as they wanted. But in your teaching you guys did nothing to the CHristians. How many churches and Christians are burned every day around the world only because they are CHristians. But when your blind your blind. Tell me if you know how we help Muslims in war zones floods fires, the old the sick and anyone that needs help because they are humans. We do not ask them if they are CHristians first before we help them . Your info must come from that brainwashing imam that sits in a bunker and spreads butter on your lips. Lol I will not say you are uneducated but MISEDUCATED poor soul.

  • Persistent

    These exchanges prove my exact point why it is prudent to refrain from insulting other religions, It hardens the feeling of the devoted, neutralizes the moderates and creates mistrust. It is a very emotional topic to say the least and people feel obliged to react…… This subject is a minefield with no winners, a lose-lose situation. People should focus on what they have in common and not what divides them, now this one is a win-win situation….

  • Persistent

    These exchanges prove my exact point why it is prudent to refrain from insulting other religions, It hardens the feeling of the devoted, neutralize the moderates and creates mistrust. It is a very emotional topic to say the least and people feel obliged to react…… This subject is a minefield with no winners, lose-lose situation. People should focus on what we have in common and not what divides us, now this one is a win-win situation….