Obama: Why I won’t say ‘Islamic terrorism’


obama-refuses-to-say-islamic-terrorismPresident Barack Obama has taken a lot of criticism from political opponents over his rhetoric when it comes to terrorism. But on Wednesday at a CNN presidential town hall, he was asked to defend why he refuses to say “Islamic” terrorism to a Gold Star mother.

“My son gave his life for acts of terrorism,” audience member Tina Houchins told Obama at the town hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper. “Do you still believe that the acts of terrorism are done for the self-proclaimed Islamic religious motive? And if you do, why do you still refuse to use the term … Islamic terrorist?”

Obama called it a “sort of manufactured” issue.

“There is no doubt, and I’ve said repeatedly, where we see terrorist organizations like al Qaeda or ISIL — They have perverted and distorted and tried to claim the mantle of Islam for an excuse for basically barbarism and death,” he said.
“These are people who’ve killed children, killed Muslims, take sex slaves, there’s no religious rational that would justify in any way any of the things that they do,” he said. “But what I have been careful about when I describe these issues is to make sure that we do not lump these murderers into the billion Muslims that exist around the world, including in this country, who are peaceful, who are responsible, who, in this country, are fellow troops and police officers and fire fighters and teachers and neighbors and friends.”

The President compared using the term to if a Christian were a murderer but claiming their religion in their actions.

“If you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up and said, ‘We’re on the vanguard of Christianity.’ As a Christian, I’m not going to let them claim my religion and say, ‘you’re killing for Christ.’ I would say, that’s ridiculous,” Obama said.

“That’s not what my religion stands for. Call these folks what they are, which is killers and terrorists,” he added.
At one point, Obama said that the danger of using the term is when “a president or people aspiring to become president get loose with this language.”

Tapper interjected: “You were clearly talking about the Republican nominee Donald Trump just then –”
“No, I wasn’t,” Obama said. “It’s not unique to the Republican nominee. Look, I’m trying to be careful, we’re on a military base, I don’t insert partisan politics into this. I think that there have been a number of public figures where you start hearing commentary that is dangerous. Because what it starts doing is it starts dividing us up as Americans.”

After the Orlando shootings in June, Trump used the term “radical Islamic terrorism” to describe the motives. It became a topic of the election after he publicly criticized Obama and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton for not using the term.



157 responses to “Obama: Why I won’t say ‘Islamic terrorism’”

  1. ‘“If you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up and said, ‘We’re on the vanguard of Christianity.’ As a Christian, I’m not going to let them claim my religion and say, ‘you’re killing for Christ.’ I would say, that’s ridiculous,” Obama said.’

    Obama is teaching a sleight-of-hand for dummies course? How can anybody possibly be THAT dumb not to see through this?

    1. The Branch Davidians were Christians… They blew up people. That is NOT Christ’s way.
      He said… I came to this world so “That they may have life and have it more abundantly.”
      Many Christians do not represent me. Many moslems are not represented by the wahhabs.

      1. More sleight-of-hand. But you’re not Obama, pal, so it’s not gonna work. Branch Davidians, seriously, mate?? Not to mention that they, although undoubtedly crazy, never “blew up” anybody. Try reading Wikipedia for a change (even though it’s Joo-controlled and hence unreliable) instead of just making up bullshit.

        As to Muslims, of course, not all of them are Wahhabis. Reducing Islamic violence to “Wahhabism” is, however, another typical and all-too-transparent deflection technique. The Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas types are not Wahhabis. Yet they are all revolting, totalitarian, violence- and terror-glorifying and practicing crap, just like the Khomeinist “non-Wahhabis” are. Yes, a different kind of crap, of a different texture, maybe with a slightly different stench. But stinking Islamist crap nevertheless. And one should not forget the frequent use of Islam and specifically, of Jihadist imagery, by supposedly “secular” Arab dictators to gain public support for their own misdeeds.

        1. Never said I am Obama, pal (what is that? short for palestinian?) and never blew up anybody? Nichols and McVeigh both were Christians who blew up Oklahoma federal building in response to the Branch Davidian Waco incident and some believe they were members of the sect despite their Catholic upbringing. BUT hey I get it… Blew up anybody means ONLY Blew up any JOOS? 😛

          1. Terry Lynn Nichols (Guilty on 161 counts of first degree murder, first degree arson and conspiracy.) and Timothy James McVeigh (Use of a weapon of mass destruction
            Conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, Destruction with the use of explosives
            8 counts of first-degree murder) had a motive, retaliation for the Waco Siege, Ruby Ridge standoff, other government raids.
            Terry Lynn Nichols and Timothy James McVeigh was an American domestic terrorist.
            You point out that both were Christians, but you forgot to specify skin color…..
            Are you running some kind of contest who “Blew up” more – the Christians, Muslims or the Jews? Disgusting.

            Christian terrorism, fair enough.
            Except abortion clinic bombers (in US) have killed 7 people over the last 35 years.
            Islamic terrorists have killed 5 million people over the last 35 years.

            Now don’t come waving with the ‘Jew Card’, you know more about them then I do

          2. coffee?

          3. Coffee is always good. Thank goodness, Yahwe, Allah and Christ for that Nespresso machine. 🙂

          4. Nespresso? Buy yourself a decent espresso machine you lazy bum.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Coffee is Arabic word you use everyday

          6. You won’t believe it: I also like hummus and pita bread. Sadly, this is where the list of Arab contributions to humanity ends. Sorry, wait: I forgot the zero, airplane hijackings and suicide bombings. 🙂

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad


          8. Hannibal Avatar

            I am beginning to believe that Israelis see the world history through their f’ed up old testament (to what exactly?) Bigotry and Racism hidden under a holocaust wrapper which they hijacked as well. I wonder sometimes if you have any history books…
            During PAX ARABICA, the golden age of the Arab empire, Arabs in the 7th to 13th centuries were the best civilization ever to rise. BTW I am sure that Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians (YES they exist), Jordanians, and Iraqis are NOT Arabs but they are a mix of Arabs, Greeks, Romans and Aramaic people. To the Arabs and Arabists, to be an Arab means to belong to an Arabic-speaking land. To others, like myself it unified Arabs, and the descendants of the Phoenicians, Canaanites, Aramaic people and many other people like Greeks, Romans, Byzantine AND CRUSADERS into a “melting pot” which is the modern Middle East today. The Ottomans turned the entire region back in time and seeded the area with tensions and the French and British put the final nail into the bigotry of today by dividing the land and creating the monster of Isreal. However, this is not the topic of today neither the answer to this teenage keyboard ninja YK.
            To educate you my ninja friend, and consider it a freebee the Arab contribution to civilization is bigger than an encyclopedia can handle you Hummus-pita face. 😉 So here goes:
            1. Talking of zeros which is a very complicated concept for your tiny brain to fathom, it provided much needed solutions for complicated mathematical problems. Needless to say that all modern computing is based on Algorithms a name that comes from Al- Khwarizmi who founded Algebra. The writings of Leonardo da Vinci, Leonardo Fibonacci of Pisa, and Master Jacob of Florence show the Arab influence on mathematical studies in European universities. The reformation of the calendar, with a margin of error of only one day in five thousand years, was also a contribution of Arab intellect.
            2. As to Astronomy, they were very advanced and helped establish longitude and latitude, and to investigate the relative speeds of sound and light. Al-Biruni, discussed the possibility of the earth rotation on its own axis — a theory proven by Galileo six centuries later. Arab Scientists perfected the work of Ptolemy and the Greeks in the development of the magnetic compass.
            3. As to the field of medicine, the Arabs improved upon the healing arts of ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt. No need to mention Ibn-Sina, the medical encyclopedia of Al-Razi, and their work on contagion which saved Europe from many plagues as they referenced the Arab literature during the renaissance (Do you even know what it is?) … That is the tip of the iceberg as it will take pages to describe what they have done in this field.
            4. Have you at least looked at their architecture which sadly your Zionist / American invention ISIS was planted there to destroy? That is a crime (YES your Zionist invention) against history AND humanity. Arab styles were elegant and daring. Arabesque designs, calligraphy, and explosions of color can be seen today in many structures.
            5. Arabs built on the Phoenicians/Canaanites charts and cartography which were more advanced than the European counterparts even after the renaissance (Do you know what is by now?) 😛 The work of one Arab, Ibn Battuta, who travelled by horse, camel and sailboat, and covered over seventy five thousand miles and was deemed one of the best geographer of all times.
            6. In horticulture, Arabs loved the land, for in earth and water they saw the source of life and the greatest of God ‘s gifts. The Arab contributions to food production are legion. Too many to list here but they were able to graft a single vine so that it would bear grapes in different colors, and their vineyards were responsible for the future of wine industries of Europe. Arab horticulture gave the world the fragrant flowers and herbs from which perfumes were extracted. Bulb flowers were already in a highly hybridized and cultivated state when the Crusaders carried them home from Palestine to western Europe toward the end of the centuries of Arab power. Rice, Sesame, pepper, ginger, cloves, melons and shallots, as well as dates, figs, oranges, lemons, and other citrus fruits, were introduced into European cuisine via the Crusaders and the trade caravans of Eastern merchants. The women of Europe borrowed from the cosmetics first prepared by the Egyptians, Syrians, and Phoenicians. Some of these included lipsticks, nail polishes, eye shadow, eye liner (ko7l), perfumes and powders, hair dyes (henna), body lotions and oils, and even wigs.
            7. Language, calligraphy and philosophy, the Arabic language is rich and pliant, and poetry, literature, and drama have left their mark on both East and West. Among the earliest publications of the Arabs were the translations into Arabic of the Greek and Roman classics — the works of Aristotle, Plato, Hippocrates, Ptolemy, Dioscorides and Galen. Some note that the poet Nizami‘s translations of the twelfth century romance, Layla and Majnun, may have been an inspiration for the later work, Romeo and Juliet. Ibn Tufail‘s Hayy ibn Yaqzan (Alive, Son of Awake), considered by many to be the first real novel, was translated by Pocock into Latin in 1671 and by Simon Ockley into English in 1708. It bears many similarities to Defoe ‘s Robinson Crusoe. A Thousand and One Nights and Omar Khayyam ‘s Rubaiyat are among the best loved and most widely read of Arab literature. The fascination with Arabic, following the Hellenistic period of Louis XIV, is particularly evident in Shakespeare ‘s characterizations of the Moors (Othello and the Price of Morocco), in Christopher Marlowe ‘s Tamburlaine the Great, and in George Peel ‘s The Battle of Alcazar. And that is just a small touch of what is there…
            8. As to music, the harp, lyre, zither, drum, tambourine, flute, oboe and reed instruments are today either exactly as they were used from earliest Arab civilization or variations of the Arabs‘ early musical instruments. The guitar and mandolin are sisters to that plaintive, pear-shaped stringed instrument, the 3oud. The bagpipe was first introduced into Europe by Crusaders returning from the wars in Palestine. It quickly became identified with the British Isles. Once the entertainment of the lonely Arab shepherds, the bagpipe returned to Palestine with the British Army. This lost musical art was relearned during the period of Sir John Glubb‘s reorganization and command of Jordan‘s colorful Bedouin Corps. Arab poetry was put to music the subtle delicacy of minor key sequences and rhythm. The modes continue to influence our ballads and folk songs today. Extempore poetry was perfected into musical expression, and Arab wedding and other occasions are still celebrated with extempore versing and musical composition.
            9. This Arab, if you will, keeps proving that you are a nincompoop, another contribution of Arabs to society 😉

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Very nicely done Hannibal. 😉 … People should read books, after all.

          10. Hannibal Avatar

            Thank you my philosophy friend… 😉
            Your history friend

          11. Good advice. Sadly, in your case it seems directed solely at other people. Ever considered practicing what you preach seriously? 🙂
            P.S. Dumbyad’s links don’t count as “books”, pal.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Obsessed with me Dumbkyard? Life is too short, and it’s my job (or life’s calling) hahahh..!

          13. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Then again as the song goes, what have done for me lately?

          14. “I am beginning to believe that Israelis see the world history through their f’ed up old testament …”

            No need to be coy, pal: you believed that all along. That’s what 98% of Arabs do, and you’re no exception. No way my innocent humoristic comment on hummus and plane hijackings – meant to mess with Dumbyad’s puny brain – caused an epiphany for you. 🙂

            P.S. Sorry I didn’t read beyond the first paragraph: life is too short, and it’s not my job (or life’s calling) to try convincing those living-in-denial Arabs they are civilizational failures. Thank goodness, there are a few straight-thinking people in the Arab world who can do that much better than me.

          15. man-o-war Avatar

            “my innocent humoristic comment on hummus and plane hijackings” – bigoted douchenozzle

          16. Well, I have no doubt that you sincerely believe I’m 100% guilty, pal. 🙂

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Innocence deafening eloquence.

          18. Hannibal Avatar

            Typical… You do not want an education. So go back to your dark ages, grow a beard and join your brothers in ISIS.
            Humor me and read item number 9.
            It is a short read and entertaining.

          19. If you sincerely believe that anyone can get an “education” by reading inane comments on YaLibnan, then you’re dumber than your average Arab (or Jewish) cab driver.

            “Humor me and read item number 9.”

            Do I have to? It’s a lot of scrolling-down, mate. 🙂

          20. Hannibal Avatar

            Then you must have a small screen. Get off your lazy ass, stop being a keyboard warrior, and go to work… May be you can find a job that pays for that big screen so you do not have to scroll-down a lot, mate 😉

          21. Don’t you know that this IS my work, pal? Our mutual friend Omega exposed me a while ago. 🙂

          22. Hannibal Avatar

            In Omega we trust…
            “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” Jesus

          23. As a third-generation LaVeyan, I prefer “My name is Legion”. But then we’re open-minded people, respectful of other beliefs. 🙂

          24. Hannibal Avatar

            Hmmmmm. Who are we? in the we’re?

          25. Who am I? Who are you? Am I you? Are you me? Is this world but a vanishing dream? 🙂

          26. Hannibal Avatar

            He turns philosopher on me… Damn it 5thDrawer… see what you have done? ;P

          27. What does this have to do with what Hannibal wrote?

            Like you said: “a while ago” but you still seem hurt/bothered with it, why? How’s Jeffrey Lietchman and his dog Calvin, Rick D?

          28. My heart is bleeding right now. You’ve destroyed, demolished, annihilated me. Not to mention blowing my cover and depriving me of my Mossad livelihood.
            Get real, pal: people mocking your idiocy are not necessarily “hurt” by you. Sometimes they just like to mock. Although I have to agree that you don’t deserve even mockery. 🙂

          29. Throwing another tantrum ‘keyboard ninja’*?

            *trademarked to Hannibal

          30. HAHA! Good one.

          31. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Actually many people DO learn something by listening to other people. Everything taken in is an education, after all. One way to also learn who to avoid.

          32. I’m a researcher of cockroaches, mate. You don’t “listen” to them. You observe their behavior, then dissect them. And then you transfer the results to the chemist in charge of the “Raid” formula. Capisce? 🙂

          33. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Life is too short why are you wasting your time here?
            That’s one paragraph.

          34. Masterfully put. Hats off.

            p.s. “teenage keyboard ninja YK” – hahaha!

          35. It’s a masterpiece. I never read it, but I’ll take your word for it. 🙂
            And yes, the guy does have class. I, for one, would never call you a “keyboard ninja”. Way too complimentary, pal. Cockroach, moron, retard, piece of crap, genetic garbage, Arab Nazi – yes. But a “ninja”? Although them Mutant Ninja Turtles did live in the sewers…. 🙂

          36. Trolls don’t read or answer, they post and ask questions.

            Not sure why you throw a tantrum and resort to such lengthy name calling every time. Aide from the deep inferiority complex you suffer from, I must have hit a big nerve of yours.

          37. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Questions you are unable answer and answers that you do not wish to hear.

          38. It’s particularly funny to see you reply.

            1. because it was not addressed to you
            2. because I have called you out, several times, for never answering but always asking

            My comments show otherwise: I always take the time to answer; backed-up answers that you never agree with because they go against the monolithic, pre-conceived mindset you have.

            What answers don’t I wish to hear? When I don’t agree, I challenge you to prove otherwise in asking you questions but each and every single time, you dilute, divert, ridicule to tap out.

          39. Rudy1947 Avatar

            1. Too bad.
            2. Because you never answer.

          40. My comments/replies who otherwise: that I do answer. You not liking it is a different story.

            Something tells me you will now engage your modus operandi: divert, dilute, lie, ridicule to tap out.

          41. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Hearing voices again. Pity, you should try meditation or different music.

          42. ‘Well, there it is.’ Modus operandi engaged.

          43. Rudy1947 Avatar

            No reference to Amadeus?

          44. Glad you learned something.

            No mention of Amadeus -> hence the quotation marks.

          45. Rudy1947 Avatar

            So now it’s just assumed you quoted a line from a movie. Charming.

          46. You brought up Amadeus, didn’t you?

          47. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “pal. Cockroach, moron, retard, piece of crap, genetic garbage, Arab Nazi”; your copyrights.

          48. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The rat trying to pick up some crumbs. Very unbecoming.

          49. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “pal. Cockroach, moron, retard, piece of crap, genetic garbage, Arab Nazi”; Trademarked to Y K..

          50. I’m perfectly willing to waive my rights for your benefit, sista. Feel free to use them whenever you want. 🙂

          51. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Very entertaining.

          52. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Egyptians were not Arabs … “Though chickpeas were widely eaten in the region, and they were often cooked in stews and other hot dishes, puréed chickpeas eaten cold with tahini do not appear before the Abbasid period in Egypt and the Levant.”
            They especially liked the Fava Bean as well ….

          53. So you want to take this off their list of achievements as well? That’s brutal, mate. 🙂

          54. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The World uses Arabic numbers in science, technology.. and the Nasdaq $$? That’s brutal

          55. I mentioned the zero, retard. But then I read the Joo-run Wikipedia and it appears that it was introduced by Hindus and only passed on/developed by the Arabs. So this one’s off the list, too. As to the numbers themselves, the ones currently used seem have been developed by the Spanyards and the Italians and adapted to European needs. Nobody besides the Arabs themselves and the Persians uses the original (Eastern) Arabic numerals. Certainly not Nasdaq.

          56. Oy vey, she’s a mathematician as well. I bet she sucks at that as she sucks at everything else.

          57. 5thDrawer Avatar

            This from a guy sucking left hind tit.

          58. Not very grammatical, but I catch your drift, mate. “Hind” vs. “hind” – that’s truly hilarious. Did you come up with this all by yourself? 🙂

          59. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The Spaniards?
            ABD AL-RAHMAN I, a survivor of a family of caliphs of the Arab empire, reached Spain in the mid-700’s. He became the first Caliph of Al-Andalus, the Moorish part of Spain. He also set up the UMAYYAD Dynasty that ruled Al-Andalus for over three-hundred years. (Grolier, History of Spain). Al Andalus means, “the land of the vandals,” from which comes the modern name Andalusia. By the beginning of the ninth century, Moorish Spain was the gem of Europe with its capital city, Cordova. With the establishment of Abdurrahman III – “the great caliphate of Cordova” – came the golden age of Al-Andalus. Cordova, in southern Spain, was the intellectual center of Europe.

            At a time when London was a tiny mud-hut village that “could not boast of a single streetlamp” in Cordova “there were half a million inhabitants, living in 113,000 houses. There were 700 mosques and 300 public baths spread throughout the city and its twenty-one suburbs. The streets were paved and lit.” The houses had marble balconies for summer and hot-air ducts under the mosaic floors for the winter. They were adorned with gardens with artificial fountains and orchards”. “Paper, a material still unknown to the west, was everywhere. There were bookshops and more than seventy libraries.” (Burke, 1985, p. 38).

          60. You are a moronic, incontinent retard with the attention span of a fly, spouting irrelevant nonsense 24/7. Sadly, if you were aware of this, you wouldn’t be who you are.

          61. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Good excuse Y K! Illiterate macho thug from the gutters.

          62. Are you even remotely familiar with the meaning of the word “excuse”? 🙂

          63. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Good excuse ..”You are a moronic, incontinent retard with the attention span of a fly”. Try harder stalker.

          64. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Copte are indigenous of ancient Egypt. ..no need for wikipedantic.

          65. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It’s handy sometimes …. 😉

          66. 5thDrawer Avatar

            One might say ‘Stunning Fireworks displays’, I suppose. And poor folks need to make a living somehow. :-))

          67. What would Arab “Resister” retards do without Russia Today? Having to rely on Al Manar and Press TV surely must suck. 🙂

          68. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You just revealed your frustration all news must be hidden except MSM Bloomberg Corporation “journalism”..

            The Right’s Latest Weapon: ‘Zionist Editing’ on Wikipedia

          69. Anybody writing “MSM” should be force-fed genetically modified Monsanto beans for the rest of his/her life (which, if you believe them “non-MSM” reports on the issue, will be quite short). 🙂

          70. Scradje Avatar

            We should have a glossary of code words that kremtrolls and assorted other troll scum like to use, such as: ‘neocons’, ‘globalists’, ‘banksters’, ‘Khazars’, ‘MSM’, ‘hasbara’, ‘Rothschild’, ‘Soros’, ‘libtards’, ‘Kiev junta’ and of course ‘Putin is a great man who looks after his people’.

          71. Yep, the code words they use are really worth some methodical research, but the list you provided is a good start. 🙂

          72. Baran, not kuev junta, kuev has real fasci regime supporting by fasci from londiniy and crazy ds…

          73. None of them killed in the name of Christ. Neither did Breivik. It doesn’t make them one ounce better, however. But they were not “Christian” terrorists in any meaningful way.

          74. Can you explain how or why there was more than one shooter on the island?

          75. The 2011 Norway terror incident was another false-flag that coincided with Norway’s refusal to participate in Libya.

            Do explain why there was more than one shooter on the island – despite the ‘official’ story stating he was a lone wolf.

            Terrorism on European soil is done by the MI6, CIA (and MOSSAD).

          76. McVeigh had nothing to do with Christianity. He was a Nazi, with a conspiracist worldview not dissimilar to that of our pal Omega. His favorite book was “The Turner Diaries”. And if you mention the Jooz (weren’t we talking about “Christian” versus “Islamic” terror?), then yes, buddy, he hated them, as befits every good Nazi.

            You’re not Obama because he’s much smarter than you, and much better at the art of sleight-of-hand. Your desire to somehow insert the Palestinians into the conversation is understandable (you are parroting the typical Arab narrative, after all), but it’s just one more deflection attempt. And a rather clumsy one to boot.

          77. – Never heard of ‘The Turner Diaries’.

            – OKC was a false flag; big time. The discrepancies between what happened and the official forced-fed story are flagrant. Only an idiot would swallow the bs so blindly.

            – You talk a lot about ‘Nazis’ but you do support the Neo-Nazis in Ukraine and Crimea. Strange.

          78. Despite the incident at Waco, Texas, Americans don’t realize their government will use lethal force on them when necessary – regardless it’s wrong or right.

            Nichols and McVeigh were CIA patsies. OKC was a false-flag.


          79. Rudy1947 Avatar

            ROFL ROFL ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!

          80. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Extremist Jewish settlers attack Christians in Jerusalem..but it won’t be on Yalibnan

          81. Hannibal Avatar

            Probably because it is a topic as boring as the settlers? You know recently I am becoming a fan of walls. Let’s build a high enough wall between us and those settlers to keep them out like one keeps rabid animals out of one’s yard and a la Trump 😉 make them pay for it…

          82. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            High time, they’re coming..Israel bought Christian refugee’s properties in Irak under Barzani, for settlers.

      2. I must be missing something: when did Davidians blew up people? Are you referring to the Waco, Texas incident?

  2. Mr. Obama, have you knowledge about an Christian organization that is going around killing and blowing people up?
    Name this Christian organization if you can.

    I never heard any Christians shouting “kill for the sake of Christ”.

    You avoiding to say ‘Islamic terrorism’, because no Muslim would like you.
    How many Muslim like this pieces of manure Donald Trump?

    As about your “.. I have been careful about when I describe these issues is to make sure that we do not lump these murderers into the billion Muslims that exist around the world, including in this country, who are peaceful, who are responsible, who, in this country, are fellow troops(!- and police officers and fire fighters and teachers and neighbors and friends.”, you are naive.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Take the word describing ANY religion out of it, and say ‘human’ instead … might understand the concept better.

      1. Since religion is generally defined as a belief system concerning the supernatural, sacred or divine, and practices, values, institutions and rituals associated with such belief. Some religions also have a moral code, it is not valid with your “say ‘human’ instead”.

        Humans change attitude when they become religious.

        Is the “6% have no moral understanding …” based on your own statistic?
        Try harder next time HUMAN…..

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          No MattyTricks … I put the report in here a while ago on that statistic.
          Of course, hardly anyone reads reports. They don’t even like statistics,

          1. My comment is solely regarding Obamas “Why I won’t say ‘Islamic terrorism’ “, not any DNA of Y K that isn’t relevant to Obama’s ‘Islamic terrorism’…..
            Without any statistic its clear that you don’t have normal understanding, if you are turning my standpoint to a DNA dilemma.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Wasn’t trying to. Just noting the fact that all the people who ran around getting blood withdrawn, or licking popsicle sticks, to find out if they were ‘among the greatest’, drew upon an early theory in the ‘science’ which is not nearly done in full, and used the false early premises to make unjustified claims to push their own agendas.
            Which was the conclusion of that particular ‘report’.

        2. I am EXTREMELY religious… It did not change my attitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvp0Me5FRQ

          1. Who cares if you EXTREMELY religious…

          2. First I do even if you don’t… 😉 Second I am replying to: “Humans change attitude when they become religious.”

          3. Indeed “Humans change attitude when they become religious.”, but it was enough for me that you It did not change your attitude.
            You are special….

          4. Well thank you my dear friend. Buddhists in general are passive aren’t they? For some reason only those religions coming out of Palestine are aggressive. 😛 Could it be the water?

          5. Sorry cant help you in this subject, you should know it better – you live in the ME.
            Regarding the water, isn’t there a shortage of this source of life?

          6. Hannibal Avatar

            I do not live in the ME. I live in the US of A.

          7. Upcoming election is utter nightmare for you, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7faf8ba3cc26300775faf6d23e393fab049be22483805990cac8c5191aefccd4.jpg
            making a choices between cholera or plague.

          8. Hannibal Avatar

            Not voting in protest… 😉 I want a Batman.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (steps up … wanting to be less conspicuous with easy work)
            Here Sir. Fold your shirt? Shine your shoes? ;-)))

          10. Americans…..

          11. Hannibal Avatar

            So true! 😀

          12. This town needs an enema, pal. 🙂

          13. Nightmare? It’s the best thing happening in the world today, it keeps everyone entertained. The one who will become President is already decided – all this is nothing but a circus.

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar

            He becomes confused when we can live in one spot, but talk about another. 😉

          15. He becomes confused…..
            Are you sure?

          16. You have seen the reception of Pop Franciskus received in Georgien, not everyone is happy – changed attitude when they become Georgian Orthodox…..

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Some folks are simply against anything, aren’t they?
            I passed by a tiny crowd standing beside the road with anti-abortion signs yesterday.
            Peacefully displaying their signs. I gave them the finger, of course.

          18. “.. Peacefully displaying their signs. I gave them the finger, of course.”,
            some folks are simply against anything, aren’t you?

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yup, that’s the finger. :-))
            I’m told to avoid cholesterol … doesn’t mean I stopped eating some of it.

          20. Yup, that’s the Stinkefinger 😉

          21. Horrifying mob of 5,000 attacks Christians for BUILDING CHURCH shouting ‘Egypt is Islamic’
            A MOB of 5,000 attacked a group of Christians as they attempted to build a church, the latest in a string of violent attacks in Egypt.
            By KATIE MANSFIELD
            10:14, Sat, Jul 2, 2016 | UPDATED: 10:38, Sat, Jul 2, 2016

            CAIRO — Residents in the southern Egyptian village of Naj al-Nassara watched in horror as their beloved Archangel Mikhail Coptic Church burned to the ground.
            Egyptian Coptic Christians attend a Mass on July 24, 2016, in the rubble of a makeshift chapel that was torched a few months ago during clashes in the Egyptian village of Ismailia, south of Cairo.
            Khaled Desouki, AFP/Getty Images

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It’s not the building that has importance when people gather to pray.
            2 or more may gather, and find the love in it as well.

          23. On Monday evening, explosive devices were detonated at the entrance of the Holy Mosque in Dresden.

            If it’s not the building that has importance when people gather to pray, why about 100 Muslims held the previous night guard outside the mosque after the attack on the Fatih Mosque in Dresden, and thus expressed their solidarity?
            source http://www.trt.net.tr/deutsch/europa/2016/09/29/solidaritat-gegen-moschee-angriff-in-dresden-579460

          24. 5thDrawer Avatar

            People do ‘Express’.
            Attacking concrete a crowd may have contributed money to buy pisses us all off when part of that crowd, doesn’t it? Burned some paint I see. Don’t want that action on our houses either, do we. Hell, had a fire-bug working cars in a neighbourhood here last year … liked to watch the burn, especially if it went to the house after. Just one fried brain caused a lot of people angst, which wasn’t for any religious purpose at all. Smiled for the cameras when they caught him. But probably not really happy and satisfied that he hadn’t made a record of any sort.

          25. Burned some paint… – bowed up the door.

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Heat changes even metal. First rules of physics.
            If they bought insurance, it will be replaced.

          27. 2 or more may gather, and find the love in it
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ff2964b3e0ab90a25b45baf14e7b911bede3e1abc9a6ebbed234a013a861912.jpg in Copenhagen and London…

            Then you have nothing against mosque being shut down in Germany, France?

            As you say who need the building to pray……

          28. This picture is beyond belief.

            You can thank the Anglo-American-Zionists’ forced migration from the ME to EU.

          29. O'Matrix Avatar

            20 days ago you claimed that “It’s not the building that has importance when people gather to pray.”, so why MUSLIMS PRAY BY ROME’S COLOSSEUM IN PROTEST OVER MOSQUE SHORTAGE?
            Muslims have held prayers next to the Colosseum in Rome to protest against a shortage of mosques.
            The lack of officially-registered places of worship for Italy’s more than 1 million Muslims has led to many using unofficial venues such as private homes.

            Critics say this makes them difficult to monitor and can foster radicalisation.

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (Directed to no-one in particular … as the reply…)
            I suppose no-one can afford to buy the Colosseum and re-furbish it, as they did with the tractor factory near where I live. Outside the Colosseum is a large clear area with no buildings. Maybe they protest the traffic on the roads around it? Romans may have too.
            You know, they only need to work and wait a while to buy a bit of land that that they all contribute to, and then get the appropriate licences and cover the building codes of the area they apply in, and then build their Mosque.
            Did they think Europe was full of empty ones waiting for them to fill?? REALLY ??
            Someone sure lead them astray, then. I doubt it was Romans.
            And hell, if a crowd of a million or so shows up anywhere suddenly, they shouldn’t expect the local hotel to have been waiting and ready, if they didn’t reserve ahead.
            I’d say their tour guide hasn’t got any sense at all.

          31. Hannibal Avatar

            The religion of pieces 😉 body pieces, building pieces. I am not angry with those who perpetrate those acts. I am angry with the silent moslem majority, the free loaders, who claim to belong to the “other moslems”… YET they do nothing. The sad part is the burning of the chapel carrying the name of Michael the Archangel who is mentioned in their Quran.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            One reason to keep god-talk out of schools … there will always be some smart-ass kids who ask a better question, and have a great answer ready. 🙂

    2. Maybe you’re right… A couple of jewish families using usury in the 30s in Germany led to the extermination of European Jews by hungry Germans… Was THAT justified?
      Islam definitely needs a “CTRL-ALT-DEL” and I know we can learn from the Crusaders’ history what they have done to Moslems and Jews around 1100 A.D. Since, Christianity redefined itself and the Christians separated Church from State and the Church is still working on modernizing itself. The new Pope is a gem and making major strides. If you read the old testament written by Hebrew prophets you will be appalled and in most cases the majority of Jews today do not subscribe to it. Islam, is new. Christianity has a lead of over 600 years of evolution over it. So despite the fact that I despise Wahhabi Islam and Sharia Law, I know many moslems who make fun of their “traditions” and espouse a peaceful existence with others. Nabih Berri, the speaker of the Lebanese parliament, speaks of Christians in Lebanon as “ahlina” translating to “our parents” or “our relatives”. Mousa el Sadr used to kneel in the church and hold his hands in a cross like form and hold them up painfully to send a message of love and understanding to the Christian community. There are many other Moslems who would die for you to protect your freedom. I, myself criticized many of times “the religion of pieces” in anger to what extremist thugs hiding behind their religion have done to their fellow humans. I myself criticized the “freeloaders” Arab and Islamic states for not taking care of these groups themselves (short of Sisi in Egypt). I do believe that hiding behind their finger and “tolerating” the “brotherhood” must end and stop relying on the West to do their dirty laundry, step up to the podium, and reform Islam. BUT that does not justify putting Islam and moslems in the ovens.

      1. Wait a minute…

        What have the Jews to do with Obama’s: Why I won’t say ‘Islamic terrorism’?

        The terror act of 9/11 is not putting Islam and muslims in the ovens, just the Saudi murderers – Saudi Arabia citizens.

        The victims were from many different countries not just Americans.
        Foreign casualties of the September 11 attacks – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks#Foreign_deaths

        1. It happened that it was a good example about putting all of Moslems in one bucket about the wrongs of the world. Did you have coffee today? You seem slow somehow. 😛

          1. I don’t need coffee, why should be swift.
            There are other things I can do while typing reply’s to you.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (down, up, down, up down, up, down, up … hehehehehe ;-))
            ‘Gimme 25, soldier.’

          3. Is that supposed to be funny or it is just more nonsense coming out of your mouth?

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He’s Alzheimer;p

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          And some external ‘first responders’ too. But this pile of charts and graphs is interesting … the people who love animals and the earth are the worst when it comes to hating people most, and doing some terror with it.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You never met a radical Vegan, I assume. Nothing on that chart is edible.
            And yet, some have insisted that their plants talk to them too… but when the veggies are stuck in a blender together, the noise of the blender stifles the screams.

          2. Let’s play your game, “What have the Jews to do with Obama’s: Why I won’t say ‘Islamic terrorism’?”
            “And some external ‘first responders’ too. ..” .. “You never met a radical Vegan, ..”
            Do you get the point?

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Variety .. the ‘Spice of Life’. 😉

          4. Your taste – NOT mine.

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I do believe I already condemned them for slaughter of several Ukrainians lately, and a civilian aircraft. Why keep adding to the list?
            If the point was ‘do as I say, not as I do’, then ‘peace’ resides in the belly of the snake.

          6. Did they slugheter of several Ukrainians lately?
            Was it in Aleppo?

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Depends on what you consider ‘lately’ now, I guess.
            Switching to another country didn’t make it better. Perhaps the word you want is ‘recently’. Many prefer ‘historically’. Whatever.

          8. Hannibal Avatar


          9. LOL me no undre stande LOL. yu good mister

          10. Hannibal Avatar

            ahlaaaaaan Mr. Dab. Good to know you’re with us.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Remember dab?

          12. Hannibal Avatar

            yup… Glad he is back. 😉

  3. Saudi warns of ‘serious consequences’ over US 9/11 bill….
    “Saudi Arabia’s foreign ministry condemned the passage of a U.S. law that would allow families of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks to sue the kingdom for damages, calling it a matter of “great concern” in a statement on Thursday.”

    The Saudi riyal fell against the U.S. dollar in the forward foreign exchange market on Thursday after the law was passed….

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