Don’t mess with nuclear Russia, Putin warns west


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Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday Russia’s armed forces, backed by its nuclear arsenal, were ready to meet any aggression, declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp that foreign states should understand: “It’s best not to mess with us.”

Putin told the assembly, on the banks of a lake near Moscow, the Russian takeover of Crimea in March was essential to save a largely Russian-speaking population from Ukrainian government violence. He said continued fighting in eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists launched an uprising in April, was the result of a refusal by Kiev to negotiate.

Ukraine, and Western governments, accuse Russia of sending troops and armour to back the separatists in a conflict that has already killed over 2,000 people. Russia denies the charge.

“Russia is far from being involved in any large-scale conflicts,” he said at the camp on the banks of Lake Seliger. “We don’t want that and don’t plan on it. But naturally, we should always be ready to repel any aggression towards Russia.

“Russia’s partners…should understand it’s best not to mess with us,” said Putin, dressed casually in a grey sweater and light blue jeans.

“Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers.”

Putin spoke easily with the students, many of whom looked to be asking scripted questions about demography and history. Other times he accepted gifts or, smilingly, played down their praise.

When a student said that she had not heard a single negative comment about Putin’s presidency from camp speakers, he responded with a grin that “objectivity” was important.

His tone darkened when speaking on Ukraine, blaming the United States and the European Union for the “unconstitutional” removal of Kiev’s former Moscow-backed president Viktor Yanukovich and replacement with a pro-European government.

He said eastern Ukraine did not agree with Yanukovich’s removal and was now subjected to “crude military force” from government planes, tanks and artillery.

“If those are contemporary European values, then I’m simply disappointed in the highest degree,” he said, comparing Ukraine’s military operations in the east of the country with the Nazi siege of Leningrad in World War Two.

“Small villages and large cities surrounded by the Ukrainian army which is directly hitting residential areas with the aim of destroying the infrastructure… It sadly reminds me of the events of the Second World War, when German fascist… occupiers surrounded our cities.”




25 responses to “Don’t mess with nuclear Russia, Putin warns west”

  1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
    Maborlz Ez-Hari

    Is this the begining of WW3? Russia is leading the world into a very dangerous climate.

    1. MekensehParty Avatar

      One of the things that you refuse to acknowledge of course is that the US military supremacy, and specifically in this case the Star Wars program has made WWIII a subject of sci-Fi books/movies only. Until NATO falls apart and the US divided into 50 countries or more will such a scenario become possible.
      For now the only people who live in a dangerous climate are the Russians themselves. They’re in danger of starvation before anything else.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Who’s refusing? If the US is that far ahead then so be it, but a nuclear threat isnt something you take lightly. Even the north korean situation is a concern I just don’t share your optimism.

        1. MekensehParty Avatar

          It’s true that I’m very optimistic when it comes to nuclear weapons. I even always thought that Iran should be allowed to own it because only then will it finally realize that the danger of owning it is greater than not owning it.
          As long as Iran does not have a nuke no one will threaten Iran with a nuclear strike. Once it has the bomb, all Iran’s enemies will start threatening with nuclear strikes just like little Putin did. And if a conflict happens it will be mutual destruction. That’s what’s so magnificent about the nuclear bomb, it is so destructive that even if you “win” a nuclear war there will be nothing left to build your victory upon.
          If you face an enemy and know in advance that every bone you break in him the same will be broken in you you realize the futility of such a battle and both of you will not fight it.
          The only country that does not fall into this category is the country that developed an anti-nuke weapon. If the US goes in a fight like the one mentioned above it is the only country that is certain to win with minimal physical damage. The only damage that we fear is the moral one and that is exactly what’s stopping us from taking idiot Putin to his words and level his country. We know Putin is a gangster and we will not make all the Russians pay for the price of electing him with such a horrendous price. Instead we slapped him with sanctions and we’re sitting on a great economy watching his crumble. Soon the Russians will look like their parents in 1990, hungry and confused, and we’ll end up sending hem rice just like we did in 1990.

    2. arzatna1 Avatar

      This guy is the closest thing to a dictator . Look how he engineered his come back to the presidency. He is obviously also trigger happy as he has shown in Crimea and his support to rogue regimes like the one in Syria . But he also realizes that the moment he pulls the nuclear trigger he will evaporate and being the fox he is I won’t worry about his threats …He is just bluffing and the west should continue to push for more sanctions to teach him real poker

      1. MekensehParty Avatar

        He’s not only bluffing, he fell to the level of bluffing like a North Korean.

  2. why they are figthing and no Syiah or sunni at the area.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Peasants. Still climbing out of the Communist mould … and not really a democracy anyway.
      (Putin gets 104% in one place – better than Assad ;-))
      ‘Demonstrate’ for some societal freedoms in Moscow (the BIG city) and you get beaten up by the same type of thugs as in Syria. Don’t try that in small towns – they still love Communism. (think they were fed more)
      Demonstrate for viable voting results, and you’re in the clink.

  3. MekensehParty Avatar

    Liar with a straight face.
    Don’t mess with us we have nukes has been answered in 1990 with don’t mess with us we have anti-nuke shields and nukes.
    Remember why your dear Soviet Union fell if you’re so fond of history.
    Remember that they are treating you like a gangster and won’t hesitate to put you down like one.

  4. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    Nuclear Russia is the reason why other countries shouldnt have nuclear weapons. We are out of the Cold War, and suddenly Russia wants to threaten the west with Nuclear weapons so it can continue destroying Ukraine and funding the Assad regime? Sounds like a joke but thats Putin’s logic when the West is weak.

    1. MekensehParty Avatar

      When there is an absolute and secure check mate at the end of the game you can allow yourself to be perceived as weak during the game.
      The endgame is well known to all and Putin is very well aware of it. Simple proof is him mentioning his big guns for his own people to take him seriously.

    2. An offhand comment, made at a youth camp, cannot be considered “threatening” to anybody but western journalists. Putin, in referring to nuclear weapons, was merely trying to relate to these children that they live in a strong country. Antagonizing Russia is folly, so it goes, because its words are backed with potent force. This is what every statesman attempts to convey of his country, and it is not wise to call the bluff of one who possess a nuclear weapons’ arsenal.

      That Washington, not Moscow, reinvigorated Cold War tensions should be common knowledge. Recall that the Ukraine is Russia’s borderland; “Ukraine,” deriving from “Ukraina,” literally translates to “borderland.” If a superpower is spreading its tentacles around an adversaries’ borderland, you should expect military response, as the prospect of encirclement poses an existential threat to any nation. Think of the United States and Latin America, or Syria, under Hafez, and Lebanon.

      The United States has served as the “threatening” party ever since the Clinton Administration. From bombing Belgrade to attempting to gain a foothold in Russian markets, it paved the way to the current confrontation. While Clinton expanded NATO to the former Warsaw Pact, he too had the gall to criticize Russian military actions in Chechnya – a region of the country undergoing insurrection. This provoked then President Yeltsin into saying: “It seems Mr. Clinton has forgotten Russia is a great power that possesses a nuclear arsenal. We aren’t afraid at all of Clinton’s anti-Russian position. I want to tell President Clinton that he alone cannot dictate how the world should live, work and play.”

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        “it is not wise to call the bluff of one who possess a nuclear weapons’ arsenal.” Glad you noticed.

        “If a superpower is spreading its testicles around an adversaries’ borderland, you should expect military response, as the prospect of encirclement poses an existential threat to any nation.” How was the west spreading its testicles? Ukrainians elected the president, and suddenly Russia needs to go in and protect its citizens? Thats bs. They were safer before Russia started a war.

        Getting economically involved in Russia is threatening? As for Belgrade, if you were threatening you wouldn’t apologize. Russia would be against the majority of the world if it tried to start a nuclear war. I dont see the US telling Russia to not mess with nuclear US.

        1. “Glad you noticed.”

          Did you notice that it isn’t a threat to teach schoolchildren that their nation is formidable? My point was that Putin didn’t say anything so as to get Maborlz, below, contemplating WWIII.

          “How was the west spreading its testicles?”

          I meant to say “tentacles” lol. I’ve changed that in the original post.

          “Ukrainians elected the president, and suddenly Russia needs to go in and protect its citizens?”

          You have the chronology of events confused. This whole dilemma actually began when Ukraine’s elected President was overthrown by Maidan.

          The Kremlin had clearly had enough of such circus acts in its borderland, influenced by foreign provocateurs, and decided to annex the Crimean Peninsula, while Kiev was ruled by a provisional government. It stopped short of acknowledging the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts, which are in contention today.

          “Getting economically involved in Russia is threatening?”

          Considering that Russia had regressed into dire poverty, and the majority of wealth had amassed into the coffers of less than a dozen oligarchs, yes; it was very threatening. We aren’t talking about “economic involvement” in 1990s, but economic plundering. Putin stopped it, however, and this is why Russians love him, and Western pundits hate him.

          “As for Belgrade, if you were threatening you wouldn’t apologize.”

          When has NATO apologized for its intervention in the Balkans? I search Google, and only come across some lamenting official.

          “I dont see the US telling Russia to not mess with nuclear US.”

          That is because you do not see Russia threatening immediate US interests. The reality is to the contrary.

          Yeltsin brought up nuclear weapons, during a press conference, in an atmosphere of US hostility; Putin referred to nuclear weapons, during a meeting with youth, in an atmosphere of US hostility. Sense a pattern, here?

          1. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            So you’re saying its ok for Russia to basically invade Ukraine by hiring mercenaries who dont even know what they’re doing (evident in their many instances of inaccurate fire or shooting down the air liner)? Telling the west not to mess with nuclear Russia isnt an indirect threat? The US even said a couple days ago they had no reason to help Ukraine. Putin had absolutely no reason to say that. And the crisis started when the EU backed president came into power due to protests (no violence reported) caused the Russian backed president to flee the country because of his plan to sign an agreement with Russia distancing Ukraine from the EU for good. Elections were set up after his departure and we ended up where we are today. NATO, and particularly the US, are some of the biggest investors of the Balkans, although I cant find an apology myself either. All in all, there is very little US hostility today to Russia’s interests yet Putin feels the need to flex and cause drama.

          2. I am convinced that the separatist movement in the Donbas rose on its own accord. This does not negate the possibility that they have been receiving aid from Russia, of course.

            Their fighters are not “mercenaries,” but volunteers. Moreover, they are not morons. These are very disciplined men who have been giving the Ukrainian Army a rough fight. One should not jump to conclusions regarding the airline tragedy; Kiev has remained awfully quiet about it in past weeks, and are still yet to release, or perhaps forge, their “evidence.”

            Let me remind you, again, that Putin was talking to minors, not releasing a statement of some sort. He was in a youth camp to preach about how great Russia is. Nuclear weapons was bound to come up in some way, as possession of them can be considered the hallmark of a great nation.

            There was no violence during the protests? The police felt the need to utilize live ammunition against “peaceful protestors” who, with weapons of their own, were raiding government buildings. This culminated in the Odessa Massacre, where the “peaceful protestors” incinerated over four dozen civilians, many Russian-speaking, encamped in a local trade union building. It was a very violent affair.

            If you are to say that Putin has a hand in the militias operating in the east, in the name of truth, you must also concede that America influenced the unrest in the west. Follow the money; Soros and his National Endowment for Democracy, closely linked to the CIA, had poured billions of dollars into Ukraine prior to the coup. This was an investment, which has produced returns – results which severely threaten Russian interests.

            A state which acts on its immediate interests is not “flexing its muscles.” A state which overthrows leader after leader, across the world, flexes its muscles. It is hypocritical for the US to denounce Russian actions in Georgia and Ukraine, traditional Russian spheres, only for it to have its hands in nearly every global conspiracy.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, if Russia had responded by also pouring ‘billions of dollars into Ukraine’, which would have been better and smarter than staging the most expensive Olympics in history, then the ‘average’ Ukrainian would be Much better off than I am. But they were, and are, not. Where’s the money?
            In a ‘socialist atmosphere’ of the highest order, the citizens were starving.
            Who wasn’t handing out the food of that ‘Breadbasket’ of Europe?
            Yanukovich – and his minions.
            Because …. they talk Socialist – but act Communist.

          4. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            These are the Pro Russian separatists. Dont look too disciplined to me.


            ” Soros and his National Endowment for Democracy, closely linked to the CIA, had poured billions of dollars into Ukraine prior to the coup. This was an investment, which has produced returns – results which severely threaten Russian interests.” That shouldn’t even lead to the escalation Russia made it to be. Ukraine is its own independent country. If an anti Assad president came into power would you want the regime coming and annexing Lebanon under the pretext of “defending its citizens inside Lebanon”? No! (Atleast I wouldn’t).

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            ‘foreign provocateurs’ …. Muslim Chechens?

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Even this bully will die some day.

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        May be too late 🙁

  5. Igor Chingoski Avatar
    Igor Chingoski

    You don’t understand the Russian Values, Russia is only protecting the population of Crimea which is largely Russian, The West this is to say the USA is always demonizing Russia and all those who oppose the American plans of supremacy, they want Ukraine to put Americna Missiles and attack Russia.

    If the so called “west” values are in effect then why they don’t stop the Invasion and illegal settlements of Israel…? Th took the land from the Palestinians and Crowded Lebanon displacing Thousands of people and with the secret wars of Israel in the region displacing Syrians and Iraqi innocent Civilians making an exodus to take the land, this is killing the Lebanese Economy because most come to Lebanon seeking refuge.
    And if the Extremists of ISIS are not Special forces from England and USA then I ask: Why in the world they don’t attack Israel and they only kill innocent Christians? like the slaughter by beheading of Priests kept in secret! they only speak of American lives like that idiot who lost His head for steering shit in Syria.

    1. so you are telling me that iraq or syria can invade lebanon , because they need to protect the arab ?

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar

    I guess the problem was that only the West-Ukraines got tours of Yanukovich’s Palatial Estate … the Eastern ones didn’t … so they didn’t see where the tax-dollars had gone. I suppose they also had enough little gardens in the retirement community of Crimea to keep eating – unlike the folks in the ‘Big City’. Yanukovich DID leave, of course … and went crying to Putin: ‘They took my Dacha !’.
    Putin called the retirees.

    That simple … Don’t mess with the ‘Old-Boys-Club’ too much.

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