Gaza mourns 8 members of same family killed in Israel air strike

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gaza 8 members of same family killed by IsraelEight members of the same family, including five children, have been killed in Israel’s Gaza offensive which has claimed 85 lives since it began its retaliation for Hamas rocket attacks on Tel Aviv and other Israeli cities.

Palestinian medical officials said a strike early Thursday struck a home in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, killing eight members of the Al Haj family.

Earlier, at least eight others were killed when a strike hit a Gaza beach café where they were watching the World Cup semi-final match between Argentina and the Netherlands, said Mahmoud Sawali, who said he lost at least two of his brothers in the attack.

The Israeli military said it was investigating both incidents. It also said it struck a car in Gaza carrying three Islamic Jihad militants involved in firing rockets.

The militant group confirmed that its men were killed in the strike. Hamas officials said that the Palestinian side of its border crossing with Israel had also been destroyed in Israeli airstrikes.

The Israeli military has continued its aerial offensive in Hamas-dominated Gaza for a third day today while militants fired rockets at Israeli cities.

 

The Health Ministry in Gaza has reported 85 deaths, including 22 today. It says about half were women and children though the exact breakdown could not immediately be confirmed. A four-year-old girl and a five-year-old boy were reported to have been among those killed today.

 

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who was due to brief the Security Council on the crisis later today, has condemned the rocket attacks and urged Israel to show restraint. He told reporters: ‘Gaza is on a knife edge.’

 

 Military spokesman Lt. Col. Peter Lerner said Israel struck more than 320 Hamas targets overnight, focusing on underground tunnel networks and rocket launching sites. That brought the total number of targets hit to 750 in three days of the offensive.

Lerner said Israel has already mobilized 20,000 reservists for a possible ground operation into Gaza, but for the time being Israel remained focused on maximizing its air campaign.

Neither side is showing any sign of halting their heaviest fighting since an eight-day battle in late 2012. Israel says that Hamas must cease rocket fire from Gaza for Israel to consider a truce.

srael has said militants have fired hundreds of rockets, striking across the length of the country. No one has been seriously harmed as the Iron Dome defence system has intercepted at least 70 of the projectiles destined for major population centers.

‘The ground option needs to be the last option and only if it is absolutely necessary. It is a carefully designed plan of action,’ Lerner said.

The Israeli security Cabinet was meeting to discuss its next moves.

Secretary of State John Kerry, in Beijing for a summit with Chinese leaders, said the U.S. is trying to stem the surging violence in a way that allows the Jewish state to continue defending itself from Hamas rocket fire. He called it a ‘dangerous moment’ for the Mideast.

Kerry said he has spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon said the operation was going according to plan, with Israel targeting various Hamas interests.

‘The military’s successes so far have been very significant,’ he said. ‘We will continue until they understand that this escalation is not beneficial to them and that we will not tolerate rocket fire toward our towns and citizens.’

Hamas’s armed wing said it fired six rockets at Israel early on Thursday. Confrontations were also reported at sea where Palestinian militants in Gaza said they fired mortars and rockets at Israeli gunboats shooting at the coastal territory.

Israel accuses militants of deliberately endangering civilians by using homes and other civilian buildings for cover. The military has also directly targeted the offices and homes of known militants that it says are used as command centers. The military typically contacts the families first to ask civilians to evacuate before striking its targets.

Yigal Palmor, an Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, said Hamas is firing rockets from ‘within houses and streets and neighborhoods which are populated with civilians… exposing these civilians to retaliation and to backfire.’

After an overnight lull, militants resumed their barrage toward central and southern Israel. Remnants of a long-range rocket fired from Gaza landed in a gas station in south Tel Aviv after being shot down by Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ defence system.

The longer range of the rockets fired from Gaza has disrupted life across southern and central Israel, where people have been forced to remain close to home, and kindergartens and summer camps have closed. Israeli television has been a constant news loop with updates from both sides of the border and even radio music stations were interrupting songs with news of every siren informing of incoming rockets.

‘We heard the siren and we immediately entered the home shelter,’ said Avraham Nachum, from the southern Israeli town of Netivot. ‘One of the boys was in the shower. He didn’t manage to step outside of the shower on time.’

Besides firing toward Israel’s two largest cities of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, Hamas also launched a rocket that reached the town of Zichron Yaakov, more than 100 kilometers (60 miles) north of Gaza.

Initially, Israel said that ‘quiet would be met with quiet’ but as the rocket fire has reached deeper into Israel officials have taken a tougher stand saying the rocket threat against Israel must be lifted.

‘The state of Israel is ready for every scenario in order to protect its citizens,’ said President Shimon Peres. ‘The Hamas is killing the citizens of Gaza by placing them where rockets are being fired.’

Late on Thursday, Israeli police said they intercepted a Palestinian car whose two occupants were trying to smuggle a bomb into Israel from the West Bank. Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the men were arrested at a West Bank checkpoint, and the bomb was being dismantled.

Palestinians have said Israel has targeted more than 70 homes in its offensive. The Israeli military said on Wednesday it had bombed 550 Hamas sites, including 60 rocket launchers and 11 homes of senior Hamas members. It described those dwellings as command centres.

Washington backed Israel’s actions in Gaza, while the European Union and U.N. urged restraint on both sides.

Israel said Gaza militants fired more than 105 rockets on Wednesday – at least 82 struck inside the country, and an additional 21 were intercepted.

Some were aimed at Israel’s Dimona nuclear plant, 80 km (50 miles) from Gaza, but were either shot down or landed in open country.

Dimona, the desert site of a nuclear reactor and widely assumed to have a role in atomic weaponry, was targeted by locally made M-75 long-range rockets, militants said. The Israeli army said Iron Dome shot down one, and two others caused no damage.

Communities near coastal Tel Aviv and in the south, closer to Gaza, were also targeted. In the longest-range attack since the offensive began, a rocket hit near Zichron Yaakov, more than 100 kilometers (60 miles) north of Gaza, on Wednesday.

Israeli and U.S. officials have today said Israel’s Iron Dome interceptor has shot down some 90 per cent of Palestinian rockets it engaged during this week’s surge of Gaza fighting, up from the 85 per cent rate in the conflict of 2012.

Seven batteries of the system, made by the state-owned Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd and partly funded by Washington, have been rotated around Israel to tackle unprecedented long-range salvoes by Hamas guerrillas.

Israel said it attacked 326 targets in Gaza on Wednesday, including concealed rocket launchers, tunnels suspected of being intended for armed cross-border infiltrations, training bases, and weapons storage and production facilities.

In an attack after darkness fell, Israel targeted a car marked as a media vehicle of a Gaza website that had the letters ‘TV’ on it. It killed the driver, medical officials said.

The Israeli-Palestinian violence began building up three weeks ago after three Jewish students were abducted in the occupied West Bank. They were killed and their bodies were found last week. Then a Palestinian teenager was kidnapped and killed in Jerusalem.

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525 responses to “Gaza mourns 8 members of same family killed in Israel air strike”

  1. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    Rockets were fired from Lebanon to Israel about an hour ago. It is believed to be Palestinian groups. Yalibnan late on posting as usual.

    1. sweetvirgo Avatar
      sweetvirgo

      I saw that as well. Lebanon always gets sucked in somebody else’s war.

    2. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      Maybe yalibnan has a life?

    3. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      The group who ever they are simply aiding Israel and paving the way for them in invading Gaza. None of these groups are trustworthy, none of them truely fight against Israel. They act when Israel want them to act and ask them to launch some missile in Israeli potato field.

    4. $89733098 Avatar
      $89733098

      Next stop spreading rumours. U r like an old woman.

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        What rumors again?

        1. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          ” It is believed to be Palestinian groups. ”

          That rumour!
          Wow u believe ur own lies that u can’t differentiate between fact and fiction.

          1. Just facts Avatar
            Just facts

            Actually, it was Hamas who stated that its branch in Lebanon takes responsibility for the rocket attacks on Israeli territory on July 11 and 12.

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            if u say so

          3. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            BS!!

          4. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Was it not one Lebanese and two Palestinians who fired them? The truth already came out lol.

          5. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            One Lebanese and 2 Palestinians do not make “Palestinian groups” u liar!

          6. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            I said my first statement before they knew who did it. Notice how i said believed. And who gave them the rockets then? We all know what the Palestinians hide in their camps.

          7. master09 Avatar
            master09

            You see barabie was there firing the rockets with them it’s the only one that knows the facts like an old women that it is.

  2. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    Not even half of Hamas’ rockets hit Israel. They’d be better off selling the rockets to improve Gaza’s infrastructure and condition.

    1. if only they listened to you.

      1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        its not worth listening to

    2. nagy_michael2 Avatar
      nagy_michael2

      Well everytime Iran wants to try new technology they use Hamas and Hezbollah. These poor civilians end up paying for it. Haven’t Hamas learned yet? but history tells us that they will never do and keep trying.. but for what purpose kidnapping israelis and killing teenagers… wasn’t that to drive israeli angers toward war? Anwar Al Sadat got pretty much everything back by signing peace treaty and worked well for both sides. why don’t these jackasses do away with war and sign a treaty so they can get lucky and get east jerusalem as the capital of Palestine.. but history and future will always be the same. war and more war.. But I am not exhonarting the israelis here i saw what they did to Lebanon and they need to help reach out to the palestinians and change their minds. butchery never lead to peace and will lead to more killings..

      1. arzatna1 Avatar
        arzatna1

        Iran promised them all the virgins they ever hoped for . The sad part about this war is most of the victims are civilians and its only outcome will be more hatred , more calls for revenge and more future wars. This should keep the Ayatollahs happy and the trigger happy Netanyahu engaged in wars and away from peace

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          It keeps the ‘bomb-vest-volunteers’ coming.

        2. Just facts Avatar
          Just facts

          The Gaza citizens have all the rights to be angry at their leaders hiding in tunnels. The only bomb-shelters are available for Hamas leaders and not for residents. Additionally, Hamas forbids the citizens to leave their houses and demands them to become a living shield if Israeli solders enter.

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        The Palestinians had an election. Hamas didn’t like the results. End of discussions.
        Something like Lebanon.
        To deal with the sneaky underhanded Israelis, you need to be like them, not shoot them. Perhaps …. be more religious than the religious? :-))))

        1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
          nagy_michael2

          Instead they always choose utter stupidity than wisdom. They can shock the israelis and the world if they become peaceful and who can argue against peace..Israelis are not angels and they can be badder than Hamas. but why give them a reason to humilate you every single time. was there a reason for killing 3 kids? how childish was that and utter stupidity.. all because Iran is inciting them. Of Course Irani Angel will dispute that.. But i know very well that General Suleimeini in Tehran is planning these things and he always succeed at the cost of the Poor Palestinians people.

          1. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            They all work for Israel. They create pretext for Israel when ever they are asked. The answer can be found in your argument provided we conclude that these resistance group are not stupid at all rather they are very smart. They are grown up individual and they do understand the cost benefit analysis. They simply work against the interest of Palestinian sunnis.

        2. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          Ur an idiot. Hamas won the election u lying scum

          1. it did and just like the PLO in Rammalah, never had another election.
            both regimes are i-legal by palistinian definition. both hijacked the palistinian people and both do not have the legitmacy to lead the palistinian people

          2. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            These Fake resistance group deserve real beating by the Palestinian public for their treachery.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I didn’t use the ‘win’ word anywhere did I?
            The problem was that not ALL THE PEOPLE voted for them.
            SOME were thinking independently, I suppose.

          4. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “The Palestinians had an election. Hamas didn’t like the results.”

            Hamas won the election but according to u they didn’t like the results.. Interesting.
            Care to explain why Hamas didn’t like winning, seeing as the “result” was them winning the election.
            It’s clear what you are trying to do when you play semantics with the word “win”, but u can’t weasel your way out of the “result”.

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            The result was ‘instant war’ … first within Gaza, then without. Did they sit down to make some ‘laws’ for ALL the people? To create a viable state with a working infrastructure? To better the lives of all who lived there? To show the world they could be the best of the best? To guarantee a bigger result in the next election?
            No. So why would I assume they were happy?
            They could not be anything more than ‘resistance’. But here they were, stuck with having to actually run the show. And they didn’t like it.

            I’ll add Hezzy to that line … If Nasty became King instead of Aoun he would actually need to make the country function, and he’s not prepared for it. He’s ONLY loving the ‘resistance’ role.
            It’s always more safe to pull the strings from the shadows ‘above’. Once you’re out ‘on stage’ you better look good, or the fruit&shoes begin to fly.

          6. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            This is a lecture held in Manchester England about the current conflict in Syria/Iraq and the fitna .Please listen if you have time. I have found it very informative and a must for every one to listen. Youtube video link bellow
            ISIS : A Historical Analysis of their ideology, and the Kharijites (2 part Lecture)
            /watch?v=EjPk37AUQDA

            /watch?v=58gNjtkpfPI

      3. wargame1 Avatar
        wargame1

        Have you ever thought of a possibility that these so called resistance group in Palestine are Israeli controlled opposition and they do this activities to help Israel invade Palestine?

        1. Just facts Avatar
          Just facts

          Your conspiracy theory is interesting. But let’s see. The only winner of this war is the Hamas ideology of Palestinian resistance. Israel will again be blamed by the world after this war. On the contrary, by actively creating decay and victims, Hamas will again get European billions of dollars. And again will invest them solely into its hate ideology of creating thousands of tunnels and 10000 rockets (just more modern), and not into economics/education/culture/defence.

          The main question I suppose is why Palestinians consistently vote for these resistance groups? Did you hear any serious critique of Hamas from Palestinians? They were instead allowed to enter the united parliament.

          So, following your conspiracy theory. Israel again lost popularity, but “kept the Palestine”, Palestinians will again get billions to live without working hard on building their own country. Everyone is happy.

          1. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Palestinians do not support any of these garbage. These human filth are imposed on them. I heard Bashar Al Assad also got elected with 90+% vote where millions of refugee are driven out of Syria. If you live few more years (I wish you a long life) then you will have your answer from the unfolding events.

          2. SOVIET RUSSIA, THE CREATORS OF THE PLO AND THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLEhttp://www.think-israel.org/brand.russiatheenemy.html

    3. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      Israel gave them the location where to launch those rockets. I have seen this drama multiple times where Hamas Hezbushaitan rain down rockets on Israel but no Israeli dies , only they destroy some potato field but Israel in retaliation kill hundreds of Palestinians and invade Palestinians land. This time its no different. Israel need these controlled opposition who will create a pretext of invasion and killing palestinians. The real resistance group are in Afghanistan and in Syria who will visit Palestine in the near future and by then you will not find these hamas hezbushaitan etc. Even if you find them , you will find them openly fighting for Israel against the sunnis.

      1. do you look at it as an unfair/cheating that we protect our citizens? that we acctually give thought to defending our people instead of mass killing??
        alomost every home in israel has a safe room. old buildings all have shelters.people here are trained in following the civil def instructions, we all make drills in safe/fast evacuations at our schools/work place…and it is going for years. the terrorists don’t hit us but not because they colaborate- because we prepere..now be honest, how many of these def activities do you run in Lebanon or Gaza?none! because the people who start a war with israel care about killing israelis, not about saving their own people.

        1. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          They can easily get your border patrol in the border area. Does every Israeli solders in the border have an Iron dome fixed in their ass? The whole thing is a drama. Hamas of Khamas..if they really want to fight Israel then they should approach to the borders where plenty of Israeli solders are there. Look how Iran Hezbushaitan are fighting in Syria. They dont look that stupid there. Any way I hope you will present some video , not some but plenty of video of rockets raining down on Israel and Israeli Iron dome is destroying them like a video game

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            These are the spurious arguments which might as well be coming out of your sphincter. The ‘I can kill you before you kill me’ kind of idiocy that just keeps the ‘merry-go-round’ greased.
            Doron looks at it slightly differently. ‘I can save forty and you only save one.’
            More reasonable, perhaps, but still only a numbers game of death.

          2. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            You have reading problem and with a preemptive thought which is a sickness.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah .. sorry … I keep thinking ‘peace and love’ … horrible I know.
            Not many ‘Games’ based on that either, is there.
            Although …. Does anyone here remember ‘Leisure Suit Larry’?
            That was a fun one with no guns that I remember.
            :-))))

          4. wrong, numbers in the game of life
            i save fourty of my people, if you saved only one then the shame is on you for not protecting them

          5. no but close enough- we have the “wind jacket” system which is like an Iron dome but for armed vihicles- totaly anihilates the anti tank weapons.
            we work hard to make sure we suffer less casualties. if we’re winning ,its not because the arabs don’t try to defeat us but because they can’t defeat us.

          6. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            The Israeli government need one simple thing and that is to learn to live in peace with the Arabs. This co existence was there in the past. The idea of bringing the Iranian entity in the midst of the Arabs in Arab land was a grave error of judgement. The Arabs historically are very hospitable. I dont think they are that rigid not to give you a place to stay. The Persians created this hatred when they came as a peace broker or resisting the Israeli occupation. You can make all the arms to protect yourself and thats not a bad thing but if your government do wrong thing against the neighbors then Allah will punish you. Wind Jacket ,Iron dome , Gas etc wont help much as you can take for example the fight between David (Peace be upon him) and Goliath. Israeli government need to sit with all the Arab leaders and boot the Persians out and with a true intention of peace , you will find the Arabs easy going. Unfortunately this might not happen according to the prophesy I read. But I advocate peace more than war.

          7. WG, oh they are rigid allright..till this very day, neither Hamas nor PLO has changed the sections in their charter that calls for the total destruction of israel..sorry but i don’t trust their kindness to “give ” us a place to stay. on the contrary- if the palistinians acknoledge our right to be here we will give them a place to stay.
            we can sit with everybody as long as it makes sense.
            sitting and negotiating with someone who officialy want’s to anihilate us , does not make sense

          8. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            The Israeli situation is not straight forward. You seems simple minded and peace loving. I didnt find any arrogance within you. I would like to tell that the whole Israeli thing is a huge conspiracy. If you see the Israeli Flag you see the two blue line and that indicate the River Euphrates and Nile. If you read the protocols of the elders of Zion then you will know that the Zionist goal is not only to take little Gaza but also ALL land between the two rivers. I know that all Jews are not Zionist nor they support that Zionism. I have seen the orthodox Jews strongly oppose Zionism. So all the Palestinian leaders name you mentioned were mostly bought up or subdued by the Zionist. You do remember when Izzak Rabin were coming to a good solution he was assassinated. The whole thing is ugly and there is no easy solution. Its a huge conspiracy where both Jews and the Muslims are in great trouble.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            On that you are right … great troubles … Lebs are not doing any better.

          10. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Please accept my apology for being harsh on you yesterday. I will explain to you the 72 virgine hadis from the text and when you know them you will be happy;)
            I didnt mean what I said I was just angry and couldn’t control myself.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Oh gee .. I think I missed that Wargame – might be the glasses. 😉
            Listen. We all have an ‘opinion’, and usually based more on the ‘whole-life’ experience, rather than what we were told we Should believe. Trying to avoid ‘seeing’ what is real because there was a theory that said it wasn’t so is, in my opinion, the biggest mistake there is.
            I said before (long ago) that I admired your ability to dig into the histories and theories – even if a trifle pedantic, since most of us can’t stand the reams of information you pile into here. :-))
            But there have been many good theories advanced by humans which make more sense to try to emulate than the ancient scripts of the religious orders.
            If you feel they are attempting those emulations, they would need to be as well-researched … and I doubt ‘they’ are. Even for the sake of trying to back up the ‘belief’ system. Not everything is a huge chess game of plots and counter-plots.
            ——————–
            I’m rather simple. I like the simple – even the simple perfection in a scotch.
            Let us use scotch as a meeting with another human.
            Hello. Did that hurt me? No? Then it can’t be bad.
            Did it give something back? Did I enjoy it? Yes.
            To a point of subjection? No. Can’t say it’s the only good one.
            Is it good for me? Perhaps in small amounts. It IS what it is, after all.
            Should I break the bottle because it isn’t ‘everything’ I need to feel good?
            I think not … I can visit it again sometime … IF I Choose.
            ——————–
            Obviously that 72 is ridiculous to consider as a line-up of virginal flesh just waiting to be consumed. 😉 You MAY explain the history of thought on it, but it won’t convert me into a ‘believer’ trying to blow myself up in a crowd. The best you’ll hear from me is: ‘Wow. When they just don’t know, those human brains can sure come up with some doosies. Eh?’ 😉
            You may explain. I’ll listen. As I actually do to most of the other stuff you place here. But I can’t just go along with what is so far out, to me, that it could never happen – even if there seems a pile of people who do.
            Little of it fits in my ‘whole-life’ experience, on a planet I have been lucky enough to see parts of, and meet people of, beyond the book, or the computer, or the theories of their cultures – which failed them in many cases, but didn’t aim to hurt me.
            You haven’t. Carry on, dude.

          12. master09 Avatar
            master09

            I love it, it is so simple but please don’t break that scotch bottle over someone head just because you did not like it, I will by you another lol.

        2. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          It is fare to protect your own people and its a sin to attack the unarmed civilians from both side. Its necessary to settle down the matter. In the past when the Muslim Khalifa Omer Al Khattab took the key of Jerusalem the Christians asked him not to let the jews enter in to the city. Khalifa Omer rejected the idea. According to the Jewish Rabbi their golden age was when they were under the Muslim rule in Spain. The Arabs and the Jews live in peace in the past and they can live again in peace in the future. Its the Iranian entity who also invaded Lebanon meddling with the situation. Both Israel and Iran exploiting the Arab land. The Jewish persecution in Europe are done by the Europeans NOT Muslims however the Arabs would not mind to shelter them as they have a rich history of good relations. The problem is when the Ashkenazim Jew start coming and invading land after land. You may somehow find it legitimate as you believe God gave you this land. But the way you are invading this land based on 3000 years old history is not acceptable. I believe Israel should cut the Iranian brokers and deal with the Arabs directly as both share border with each other

          1. i have no problem with a muslim that doesn’t want to kill me, WG1. i don’t have a problem with any muslim/Arab that doesn’t want to send me back to russia (i’m from iraqi backround so it will be hard for me to explain polish/russian why i demand citizenship there)
            the ones that want me dead and work in that direction ,i will fight them with all my heart- if they place their fire power between their own civilians, then it is their problem not mine. i’m not fighting to protect Gaza after all. i fight to protect my people from Gaza militants and do not hold myself responsible for innocent’s death in there.
            make Hamas fight fair and you will see a drastic decline in civilians death in Gaza! nothing more to say about the subject

          2. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Fare enough. I consider these Khamas Hezbushaitan etc are opportunist and criminal. They do not represent the Palestinians rather they just occupy these land for their own benefit. The Arabs never said those extreme words like wiping out Israel from the Map or other hateful word. This kind of wired doctrine is foreign to sunni Islam. But it is unfortunate that when Iran make such comment the Arabs get the blame because you share the border with the Arabs and NOT Iran. Therefore as long as these Persian stray dogs dwell in these area they will prevent any type of reconciliation. You know why? If there is a reconciliation then the Persians will have no excuse to invade Lebanon Syria etc. They simply need to pack their bags with a one way ticket to Iran. They wont let it happen but the Sunnis will make it happen. Once Assad fall the rug under the feet of Hezbushatn will disappear. There are Talibans who will be visiting Iran because the Iranian regime conspired against them to overthrow. Iran’s fate is sealed. Once the Iranian savage are cleansed from the area the Arabs can at least talk directly with you. And then if both party cant agree on peace the war is the solution.

          3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            7abibi we cant invade something that is ours

          4. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            What is yours? The Shia shit hole Iran which will be conquered for the second time by the Arabs.

          5. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            the entire middle east is ours

          6. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol

          7. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            ARABS WILL CONQUER IRAN AGAIN!!!
            The Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said: “Even if but a single day remains in this world, Allah will certainly prolong that day so that one from my family (Al-Mahdi) can take possession of Mount (or the land of) Daylam (in Iran) and the city of Constantinople (Istanbul).” (Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman, p. 74 and Death-Doomsday-The Hereafter and the Portents of the End Times, p. 440)

          8. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            no arabs love to be our slaves…. just ask hezzy

          9. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Al-Mahdi will conquer Constantinople and Mount Daylam (in Iran). (Al-Haythami’s Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi Alamat al-Mahdi al- Muntazar, p. 27)

          10. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Isn’t Constantinople already in the hands of Muslim Turks? or do they not count because they are not Arab? lol

          11. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Yunus bin Saif Al-Khulani said: ” You will reconcile with the Romans through a reconciliation treaty. Then, together, you will invade the (lands of the) Turks and Kerman (a region currently in Iran)and Allah will conquer them for you…” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          12. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            when r u gonna learn that allah is something either in my ass or ur head hence it doesnt really matter what he says

          13. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            And that comment just shows what a bigot you are.

          14. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            ok

          15. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            barabie,
            If you are as hot as your new picture I will change my religion to Sunni Islam to meet you… 😛

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Think about the flight cost first …. 😉
            But Hannibal, I know we agree that there ARE times to set politics into the cupboard and forget them. :-)))

          17. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I did… 😉

          18. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Thanks but I’m not into woman bashers.

          19. Where is Mal and the others? The pic is misleading to your cause. How are you?

          20. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            My cause? Please do tell what my cause is!

          21. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Relax and try to hold yourself together. The attack on Iran is not happening immidiately.

          22. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Ka’b said: “…You will enter into a reconciliation treaty with them for 10 years… You and the Romans will invade an enemy (located) behind Constantinople. When you return for that invasion, you will see Constantinople… Then, you and they will invade Al-Kufa (Shia city in Iraq) and cause devastation to it … Then, you and the Romans together will invade some of the people of the East (probably Iran and Russia)…” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          23. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said : ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together against their enemy and they (Muslims & Romans) will split the war acquisitions. Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran).” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          24. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Romans will Break the Treaty over Booty After the conquest of Iran!!!
            Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said : ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together an enemy for Romans and they will split the war acquisitions. Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran). The Romans will say: Split with us the war booties (spoils) like we did. So, Muslims will split with the Romans the war booties and children of Polytheists. The Roman will say: Split what you got of the (Persian) Muslim children. The Muslims will say: We cannot split with you the the children of Muslims. … The Romans will invade and take over all of AshSham (Syria), except Damascus and Ma’taq mountain near Homs (in Syria) where Muslims will keep their children. Victory will be withheld until one third of the Muslims dies, one third flees and one third remains fighting….”(Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

            ———————————————-
            The timing of this attack is after the Roman invasion of Egypt which is called the Battle of Alexandria. So the battle of Alexandria has not yet begun so we have some time to see this dramatic event.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Not begun? Somebody cut the undersea cable there last year … one reason Leb-Net is useless. 😉
            (and yes, someone blamed Brits – not Romans. 😉

          26. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            The Romans are the descendant of Isaac(peace be upon him) . Prophet Isaac and rebeca had twin sons one of them is Jacob (peace be upon him) and the other one was Esau. Esau was reddish/White (Edom in the Bible) and very different in appearance than Jacob. Esau didnt have the prophethood however Esau had some great qualities and I will tell you that from a Prophesy. In Islamic prophesy the Romans are called Banu Al Asfar i.e Yellow people due to their skin or hair color. So the British , American Other European are all Romans. The Romans are a nation and their Leaders were the Roman Empire.

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Romulus and Remus had a hand in this … they founded the city. 😉

          28. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I thought yellow was Chinese… We are considered Caucasian whites and you Arabs are the sand niggers… A color between black and shit hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

          29. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Prophesy about the good qualities of the Roman
            Muslim narrated from al-Mustawrid al-Qurashi that he said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) saying:
            “The Hour will come when the Romans are the majority of people.”
            So ‘Amr ibn al-‘As said to him: “Watch what you say.” He said: “I say what I heard from the Messenger of Allah [sallallahu ‘alayhi wa-sallam].”
            He said: “If you say that, it is because they have four qualities: they are the most able of people to cope with tribulation, the quickest of them to recover after an affliction, the readiest of them to return to battle after fleeing, and the best of them to the poor, the orphan and the weak. And they have a fifth good quality: they are the strongest of them in resisting the oppression of kings.”

            —————————————-
            Now you can verify it from their social security program, freedom of religion , freedom of speech, human rights etc. They are not perfect but they have both good and bad in them. Please note that in Tehran (Iran) there is not a single sunni Mosque allowed by the Iranian government. So imagine if these Majoos were to give the power to rule over nation they would make Husayniat Mutta center all over the world, But if you see the Roman land the Muslims practice their religion and all other like Hindu Buddist Atheist Christians and other can practice their religion. There are many Christians Churches were leased or bought by the Muslims to make Mosque in the Roman land and the Romans doesnt give objection to it. Certainely there are some wicked among them but I am talking about the qualities of the majority. So this is a nice prophesy and we also see that the Romans are the majority of the people on Earth. Unfortunately in the end of time the Romans and The Muslims will fight due to the conspiracy of the Iranian Majoosi losers

          30. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            abu this and bin that… Are you like lunatic? Sheikh Wargame… 😛 lol

          31. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Romans? Where? Did you and your prophet invent a time machine?

          32. we do not blame sunnies for iran’s words.ok , maybe we do, i doubt israeli leader could spot the difference before last years events.

            i admit in advance i do not know the sunni Islam way on this, i do know ISIS’s way but i accept they are radical group and not the majority.
            but we had Nasser threatening to destroy Israel, Saddat after him. we had Saddam (i believe he was sunnie too) and Kadafy as well, we had Yaser Arafat and now we have Hamas.all are Sunni leaders or organisations and they all swore in one time or another to destroy israel..so where does the Sunni islam kick in when it comes to co-existance with Israel?
            a serious question

          33. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Gaddafi was a Shia but other leaders you mentioned were sunnis. But these leaders some of them were sincere others were pure opportunist. I didnt mentioned the very present history. Top Rabbis recognize their “Golden Age” when they were in Spain under the Muslim rule. Before the Israeli invasion of Palestine the Muslims and the Jews indeed lived in peace. I have learned this from the Jews and also from the Muslims. During the time of the rightly guided Khalifa such as Omer Othman Ali Abu Bakr you would not find and attack on the Jews. During the time of the prophet many Jews reverted to Islam but there were a faction of Jews who conspired but that doesnt mean that the whole Jew community was bad. If you see the Jewish history there were always some arrogant people who killed most of the prophets and many prophets escaped from them. Moses and Aaron also had problem and Jesus (Peace be upon them all) had problem too. So I would like to point out to that particular group among the Jews who are not rightly guided. The Jews were persecuted by many nations. What ever the reason was , most of those persecution were not by the Muslims.

          34. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Everyone blames them for starting that ‘One God’ thing. :-)))

          35. master09 Avatar
            master09

            The Jewish persecution in Europe are done by the Europeans NOT Muslims , you say, well
            Read history who do you think Hitler worked with from the Arab world this is only one.

            Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini

          36. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Hitler worked for your Grumpa

          37. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Stop being lame jewboy

          38. master09 Avatar
            master09

            What the truth is lame, you can do better than that give me facts. But the truth only goes one way to those who are brainwashed. Lol

          39. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring.”

            – Rabbi Dov Lior, Chief
            rabbi of settlements in Hebron and Kiryat Arba, head of the Council of
            Rabbis of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank], and leading figure
            in the religious Zionist movement. (January 2011)

          40. whats the name of that muslim priest that said rocks call to muslim -hey , there is a jew hiding behind me, come and kill him?

          41. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            lol please provide facts not half concocted quotes that have no references.
            I provided you with quotes, names, dates and positions!

          42. hmmmm….
            you should know by now that i don’t lie..you may not like it but it’s truth:
            summery of the meeting:
            http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Total/hitler.mufti.htm

            http://www.pipelinenews.org/2012/mar/06/Dutch-Holocaust-Survivor-I-Saw-How-The-Mufti-Of-Jerusalem.html

            i’m still looking for the diary of the SS officer that was in charge of the welcome commitee

          43. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “whats the name of that muslim priest that said rocks call to muslim -hey , there is a jew hiding behind me, come and kill him?”

            That is what u barked! Showing pictures of ONE guy does not confirm the above. What is it with you losers?

          44. well, you are stupid and ignorant by choise hahahaha..
            you asked for a proof the grand mufti was a Nazi colaborator- you got one and by a typical predictable reaction to proofs you resigned to stupidity :))))
            “one guy” lol if you call the grand mufti just one guy then BIBI is just one guy too..
            let me tell you one more thing your fear of truth prevents you from researching: that arab nazi is the one that defined the war between us as a religious war. till he started using it as a pretext , al aqsa had no special meaning for arabs. this musliNazi is the one that turned it to a jihady cause

          45. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            I asked for proof of your quote! Don’t be a typical “chosen” liar!
            The comments are there for all to see.

          46. ok fool, besides well documented meetings and pics
            what would you consider a proof?

          47. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “al aqsa had no special meaning for arabs”

            Lol the third holiest site in Islam had no meaning for Arabs?? hahahaha

          48. must i always hand feed you? can’t you do some research of your own? lol
            as a source for a religious tension…it is the grand mufti’s doing..the myth the jews will tear down al aqsa to build the temple again..

          49. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Yes plz hand feed me, just like the slaves hand fed the Romans. 🙂

          50. or a master feeds his dog..

          51. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            If that’s your pic, I know where I’d be eating. 😉
            Let Doron feed you. :-)))

          52. more like a master feeds his dog 😉

          53. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol a master doesn’t HAND feed his dog but a slave does hand feed his master 😉

          54. i’m a compassionat master, not like the ones you’re used to back home.
            drop me a line when you get here, my dogs would keep you warm in the dog house

          55. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Ur dogs? U must b the pack leader. Do u sleep in the kennel with them or do u have ur own kennel? Every settler is a dog. Scratch that. Every settler is a rat.

          56. my dogs, i have 2 of them, they sleep outside of my house that i have in israel.
            they have a big yard to play in, i feed them, take them on walks and take care of everything they need..you should really come over, once we vacinate you properly i’d let you join them

          57. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Take care of everything they need? So obviously u bend over for them and let them hump ur ugly fat ass. Typical settler scum into beastiality. .

          58. nope they are castarated..your father wishes he was too before he entered the begger that you call mom :)))
            please continue

          59. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Yes I know ur one of the chosen but u offered to hand feed me.
            :p

          60. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Here’s the quote ….. from one of the also-weird ‘other’ sites. 😉

            “The Hour [of Resurrection] will not come until you fight the Jews.
            The Jew will hide behind stones or trees.
            Then the stones or trees will call:
            ‘Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”
            http://www.raptureforums.Com/FeaturedCommentary/palestinianmuftimuslimsdestinyistokilljews.cfm

            Actually, if you set a search engine to ‘stones worship calls’ etc, you’ll find that gods speak from many places … something like ogres in caves, I think.
            :-))))
            (we all know ogres only live in caves)(Disney spruced one up a little …)

          61. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Trust u to come to his aid.
            Secondly you are quoting something from 1400 years ago not from someone in the CURRENT government! Or at least in the last 5 years.
            But it hasn’t gone unnoticed that you don’t miss a chance to demean a certain side.
            And raptureforums?? lmfao what next?

          62. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I did say ‘other’ … and weird … :-))
            Love your swim-suit. Sends me into raptures. 😉
            (oh .. was that out of context? 😉
            Love Australia.

          63. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            raptures ay? lol smartass 😛
            thanks, i love it too.
            I have a spare one if u want it altho i do recall u saying u prefer ur birthday suit.

          64. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I do. For those beaches where there are prudes I have a ‘Tan-Through’.
            And I don’t need your top … 😉

          65. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            ” When Christ accused the Pharisees of His day of being Satan’s
            spiritual children, He fully realized what they were capable of. Second
            century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis
            and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation
            of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed, “A proselyte who
            is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a
            priest.” 1 Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of
            pedophilia as “halakah,” or binding Jewish law. 2 Has ben Yohai, child
            rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben
            Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and
            ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and
            dancing in his memory.
            References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy
            considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are
            enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work,
            Treatise Sanhedrin.”

            You wanna play that game of taking things out of context?

          66. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Barabie … tsk.
            Seems I had missed this one … avoiding the over-long ‘Threads’ I guess ….
            We have to put our minds back at least 3000 years for the human animal …
            Knowing age 13 is basically the youngest for reproduction …
            My take on it is:
            If the ‘wife’ is pregnant for twelve to 24 years and finally dies from that (or maybe before), they had to have some way to relieve the stress of 20-odd kids running around (until age 3 I guess for females) with no-one to even do the cooking, let alone boink with ‘legally’, until natural-life ended at 45.

            Trust Religion to come up with an answer … and males have a habit of sticking it in many strange places, after all – getting on with getting off. :-)))
            Maybe Jesus said ‘tsk’ too … but he was a century ‘up’ in his time. 😉

          67. Patience2 Avatar
            Patience2

            I thought ‘Trolls’ lived under bridges??

          68. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Damn … you’re right. Excuse ME.
            I corrected. Trolls live on Blog Sites. :-)))))

            I was thinking of calling Nasty a Troglodyte … born in Lebanon, married in Iran to a Co-menie … living in a cave … sort of fits.

          69. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            LOL ….. 2

          70. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            LOL …..

          71. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            lol obviously u cant be “brain” washed as u have no brain!
            Please provide evidence of Hitler “working” with the Arab world!
            Him meeting someone doesn’t mean “working” but of course a liar and a thief like yourself will try anything to demean the other side.
            Why don’t you tell us how many jews met Hitler? You wanna play that game? I’m keen. 🙂

          72. master09 Avatar
            master09

            They ALL worked with Hitler in some way or another even the Jews. But I was replying to one comment made by wargame if you red it rite it was about one people not the entire world. Facts bring anger accusations and defence in all forms. It’s like when a donkey is poked he it will kick hence your reply. They all worked with Hitler even the Jews its called Money and nothing else. So read what I was replying to rather than kick like a jackass. Yes I have no brains hence waiting Time replying to you . Lol

          73. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “The Jewish persecution in Europe are done by the Europeans NOT Muslims , you say, well
            Read history who do you think Hitler worked with from the Arab world this is only one.”

            You must have a limited understanding of the English language!
            I will let your own words bury u. 🙂

          74. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            Hey.wireless just came back on, is it safe to come back above ground now?

          75. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            No. Stay there.

          76. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            Rockets are bad for business.

          77. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Can still do a Belly-Dance underground, Cookie. :-)))

          78. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            We can do a lot underground. Baking cookies is not one of them. Hamas occupiers of Gaza use metal from ovens to make rockets. They even took my stage pole that I use for work.

          79. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I could admire your ‘floor-work’. 😉

          80. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            most of my work is done underground.

          81. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Unfortunate … I prefer sunny beaches ….

          82. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            i can make the sun shine but you have to provide your own sand

          83. lol..you wish you were half of a jew..it would improve your intelegence to a level you didn’t know possible

          84. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Typical “chosen people” attitude!

          85. jelouse ?lol infiority complex taking the best of you?..you know it’s true..
            and stupid too.. chosen people is not meant as prefered and spoiled children- chosen means chosen to recieve the 10 comandments and introduce the one god to the people of the world..only small people with infiority complex try to turn it into something it is not

          86. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            oh yes im so jealous that i wasn’t “chosen” to rape, murder, steal, lie etc like you have.

          87. no…i wasn’t talking about that, was talking about the inteligence thing..i guess you’re too thick to get that too

          88. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Yes I wasn’t chosen to be as intelligent as the chosen ones

          89. lol..any time you use the word chosen in that context makes me smile a little wider.can’t help it

            dont let your limitations stop you from chacing your dreams-you can still do farm work or sweep streets, earn your living with honor.

          90. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Of course a chosen one would look down upon farm worker or street sweepers.
            Good to see u showing how discriminatory the chosen ones are.
            Now sit boy!

          91. what can i say..the chosen ones should always be in advantage over the less fortunat ones
            i can see where you’re infriority complex comes from and i really appreciate your attemps to assure yourself you are as good as anybody else.
            and i totaly agree with you.you should strive to overcome the difficulties that hold you from being a more mature complete person…and who knows, maybe if you try hard enough, god might bring your souls back into this world as a jew..for now you have to take the back seat as you’re used to
            were you talking to me? lol

          92. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol good to see u admit u r a racist chosen one. Good boy, now play dead. Actually don’t play.

          93. my bad..shouldn’t use sufisticated humor when talking to you , Sorry
            ..knock knock….

          94. my bad..should stick to the basics when talking to you..

            knock knock..

          95. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Lol

          96. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Geez Barabie, I’m starting to get worried with all the likes I’m giving you. You and I actually agree on more than what I initially thought.
            -:))

          97. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I knew the 10 commandments as my kids after me without having to receive them… They are embedded in anyone with conscience… I did not need a myth to receive them specially that the Jews were never in Egypt nor in the Sinai… They were one lunatic tribe lost in Arabia… 😛

          98. so you pass the STD to your wives and children too? you are an animal lol

        3. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          War is strategy. Now let us assume that your Iron dome can intercept all incoming Missile. So dont you think Iran and their stooge in Palestine know it? Arnt they fighting well against the sunnis in Syria? They surely are not stupid. Its Israel who benefit from this Khamas attack as they will now invade Gaza , killed hundreds of civilians in Palestine. What would be your strategy if you are in charge of an army against a force like the Israelite with Iron dome but you are given rockets and few weapon? You also are responsible to protect your civilians knowing full well that if you hit the civilians then you give your opponent the automatic license to kill your civilians. What would you do as a patriot?
          I dislike this senseless killing.Targeting the civilian deliberately in a war is equivalent to allocate a place in the hell fire. Who ever believe it are cautious in their action.

          1. war is not a stratagy imo.it is a tactical weapon in the hands of people in power.
            if it seems right to use war then it’s war they use, if it’s sanctions or peace- it’s all tactical measurments
            iron dome can not intercept cruse missiles for the reason it has to be able to calculate the course of the projectile- luckily, so far ,this is all the Hamas has atm.
            but iron dome is not the complete product only 30% of it.. 😉
            we already have the arrow system to intercept balistic missiles and the last bit- “magic wand” is to be deployed in 2015 i believe. the 3 components assamble a complete anti missiles def system.
            so let the iranian and their lackies sit and devise ways to overcome iron dome..we’re light years ahead.
            what would i do as a patriot if i was Hamas you ask?
            i wouldn’t be a patriot cause being a patriot means i get my people killed.i would assess my situation, weight the pros and cons for continuing this war and i’d negotiate cause there is no way i would win.admitting defeat would be a courageous brave decision. continue to fight while your people are being killed when you KNOW you can’t win is a coward’s choice!
            one more thing that i bet you didn’t think about: Iron dome saves the lives of thousands of Palestinians..true..think about this:
            if there was no iron dome, the israeli casualties would force us to enter Gaza and destroy all those missiles like we did before. you remember how many Gaza people died in previous wars?
            because we have iron dome, Israel can postpone the ground invasion and this saves Palestinian’s lives too.

  3. MekensehParty Avatar
    MekensehParty

    Let’s hear it from dr. Maher’s samples how they will condemn the murder of a family while their barbaric “president” butchered tens of thousands of families.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      ASSUMING accuracy and correct information …. how it works is:
      Israel phones the target. ‘We are going to shut you down very soon. You have 15 minutes.’
      Hamas calls the neighbours who didn’t vote for them, for a party – free candy for kids.
      Party is run by the ones who volunteered to also wear bomb-vests earlier.
      News-people are called 20 minutes later – record Martyrs.

      1. $89733098 Avatar
        $89733098

        5th u r truly disgusting. Hopefully that liver of yours doesn’t last much longer u disgusting pig!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Hohohohohohohoho …… Hey Cutie, I got THAT from reading news reports. 🙂
          And really, if Hamas had spent HALF the effort and money, that it has in digging ‘supply & invasion’ tunnels, putting ‘basement storage’ units under homes and schools, and making it’s own rocket designs, into doing what the Israelis did in making decent bomb-shelters instead with early-warning systems, and by keeping their ‘rocket-launch gangs’ away from the cities in the first place, then we would be simply watching a ‘mutual fireworks show’ above ground while ALL of them in that tiny bit of the world lived underground.
          Which would be nice.
          They might enjoy AC on the 40-degree days too.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (Pssst … vs … It’s Hind who wants the Art Works. )

      2. master09 Avatar
        master09

        I bet that’s true that reply from barabie is full of love and peace, you can tell it can’t take a joke.

        1. Sparing no one this week Master, each comment is a brush stroke of a lovely portrait. hope you are doing well

          1. master09 Avatar
            master09

            Geo doing well hope the birds are singing for you and you are making time for family.
            They say hating is easier than loving as it takes less time, that’s for the lazy people.
            I say
            Do not do good in speech and thought but by GIVING love and peace.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Wonder if this is a new Yalbnan ‘posting’ record …. hmmm

  4. Just facts Avatar
    Just facts

    These 8 Gaza citizen are relatives and neighbours of one Hamas militant whose house was bombed. Israel explicitely warned these and several hundreds of other palestinians living close to the terrorist objects about the proposed attacks, asking them at least twice to leave the houses.

    Germany magazine “Sueddeutche Zeiting” writes: Hamas welcomed this act of self-sacrifice, and called all other Gaza citizen to defend Hamas objects by their bodies.

    1. AkhouManUki Avatar
      AkhouManUki

      That does not excuse Israel to bomb a heavily populated residential area. That is sloppy and reckless.

      1. Just facts Avatar
        Just facts

        Launching rockets from populated areas at all main Israeli towns (Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Haifa, Beer Sheva, Ashdod) does not excuse the response?.. By which logic and moral?

        Please show any other army that bombed 2000 terrorist objects in a week with only under 100 civilians killed (not counting the terrorists)? This was made possible, because the people from houses nearby are notified by a phone (a hour and 5 minutes before the strike), and when the strikes are cancelled at the last moment with people still seen near the objects.

        In this specific case, this family was warned by a phone, but intentionally ignored the warning and was lead by someone to a balcony for self-sacrifice when it was late to cancel the bombing.

        1. AkhouManUki Avatar
          AkhouManUki

          Wow, are you the official spokesperson for the IDF? I love the name, just facts – it makes it so clear that everything you are saying is clearly factual. Very clever. Perhaps your time is better spent elsewhere.

          I don’t care how you try to rationalize murder, when you kill 8 people from the same family in one house, that is sloppy, reckless, and avoidable.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well … even if not ‘led to the killing-spot’, the munitions under the place, added to the stuff in the attack missile, sure make a huge ‘event’ for the photographers. There’s one shot that looks like a person should be blocks away before it’s hit.

          2. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            And of course 5th spews the israhelli barking points. Then claims to be fair and unbiased.. lmfao. u remind me of another taqiyah practicing rabid dog by the name geo

          3. Aren’t you a wounded yelping sorry soul, may Allah cure you from your hate and insecurity, so much time on your hands and nothing to do with it than to attack everyone. how does that make you feel better? there are 2 realities here Barabie, one in the circumference of your head and the other is the reality that your life is empty!! go back and research what you have said and done, your comments are neither private to you or me. I will not contaminate this place or disrespect others by engaging you at your level , my advice to you is to make yourself more desirable next time. I mean it !!

          4. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            oh u won’t disrespect others but yet call me a chihuahua. retard if u can’t stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!
            Don’t disrespect me and i won’t reply in kind, very simple that even your simpleton mind should understand that.
            If you weren’t so busy practicing your taqiyah you might have understood something as simple as that.
            Now run along and play in the sand, adults have better things to do than to school you.

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I’m biased against all the killers. Simple.

          6. Just facts Avatar
            Just facts

            It is true that I based my postings on the official published videos, phone recordings and reports of IDF. What sources do you use to base your opinions on?

          7. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            Decades of history – all the facts I need. Maybe you should expand your sources beyond the IDF’s official propaganda outlet – who knows what new facts you might learn!

      2. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
        Ivana Humpalot

        We know your country Lebanon does not care about Syrian rockets killing people (though no comparison to the numbers shot at Israel). But Israel does care about human life on both sides. No country would tolerate this. The British in 1944 carpet bombed German cities in retaliation for the V2 rockets launched at London

        1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          okay…

        2. AkhouManUki Avatar
          AkhouManUki

          No one is asking Israel to tolerate anything. I’m simply pointing out that it’s sloppy and reckless to murder 8 innocent civilians living under one roof – plain and simple.

          If you and your fellow hardline Israelis spent less time trying to justify every mistake, and actually reacted like human beings with a heart on occasion, peace would be within reach.

          1. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            Oh please, go criticise the thousands of civilians murdered by Obama’s drones, not to mention tons more killed everywhere in the world, and then come complain about one family.

            Terrorists are not human beings. Gaza is a launch pad for Iranian rockets and must be cleaned.

          2. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            It’s not about one misfire – it’s about being a repeat offender of misfires.

            Terrorists are integrated among innocent human beings, so if you think Israel has discovered the solution to terrorism by grossly negligent, sloppy bombings that wipe out large numbers of innocent people, then human beings won’t be around for very long.

            It’s pathetic in this day and age, especially for a country like Israel that has stolen leading technology from the east and the west.

            Also, for the Israeli apologists that claim that Israel holds itself to a higher standard than the Palestinians – I have yet to hear about any IDF officers being held accountable for this act of negligent murder.

          3. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            Well looks like Israel just accepted Egypt’s ceasefire, while hamas rejected it and called it “a joke”. Any more excuses libs?

          4. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            Egypt is a country, Hamas is a terrorist group created as a result of Israel’s oppression of Palestinians. Big difference.

          5. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            I dont agree with the way Israel treated the Palestinians in the 80s, but now that they got the Oslo Accords in 1993 and went on to having complete control of the Gaza Strip in 2005, no more excuses.

          6. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            U r disgusting

          7. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Look Barabie, I also liked your post because I agree with you when it comes to that tool.

          8. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You guys are bringing me to tears agreeing and all… lol 😛

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            LOL … 😉 Gotta love the ‘wars of words’. So much less pain. :-))))

          10. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “Racism originated in the Torah… The land of Israel is designated for the people of Israel.”

            – Rabbi Yosef Scheinen, Head of the Ashdod Yeshiva (religious school). (2010)

          11. Just facts Avatar
            Just facts

            And Italy land belongs to Italians, Russia to Russians, Mexico to Mexicans and China to Chinese.

            But you do not call over 150 countries racist. What a hypocrisy…
            Besides, we all know that all countries belong to Muslims in the long run, according to Islam.

          12. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Lol i didn’t call them racist, your own rabbi yosef scheinen did. Learn to read

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            hohohohohohoho …..

          14. firing back is a human reaction, so does grief for unnecery deaths but survival instict is stronger

          15. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            Which is the difference between winning the battle and winning the war. Israel is so hung up on tit for tat tactical victories, that it has completely lost sight of what the ultimate victory looks like.

            As long as Palestinians are living in desperate conditions, desperate measures will be taken.

          16. sorry but you just can’t put the blam on israel and clear the palistinians from guilt. especialy on a day when a truce is agreed and Hamas rejects it.
            nope, on a day like this Hamas is the only one to blame for this ti for tat war.
            we can’t take the blame for their stupidity. so many lives from the palistinian side lost and will be lost due to Hamas’s stupidity.

          17. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            Israel is the big boy on the block – they run the country supposedly, so again, you are comparing Israel to a terrorist group that was created as a direct result of Israeli oppression. After decades of oppression, you really expect Hamas to just fall in line? There is much more at stake here than logic. Palestinians have had their pride trampled on for decades by Israel.

          18. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Logic, I must say, escapes all of them it seems.
            I dare say they are all oppressed by their ‘good books’ all the time.

          19. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            so what, you think they (the Palestinians) should never stop fighting?
            There must be a time where the word defeat takes full meaning. It’s no shame, many people and causes were defeated.
            Killing 8 people in one family is very regrettable, of course, but you need to keep in mind that if Israel was not intercepting the volleys of rockets these could fall anywhere including hospitals, schools, residential areas and maybe just maybe some military targets… The terrorist mentality is way heavier on Hamas’ side.

          20. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            No one is arguing that point – Hamas has much less to lose than Israel – and Hamas directly benefits from Israel killing 8 people from the same family – that is like compressing years of recruiting into days, imagine how many people on the fence are now more extreme as a result of that sloppy attack by Israel.

            I would love nothing more than the Palestinians and Israelis to stop fighting, unfortunately neither side is willing to sacrifice pride today for freedom tomorrow.

          21. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I totally agree with your 2nd paragraph, but totally disagree with your first. Hamas today/presently lost everything. Or at least the Iranian Hamas is over. The “political wing” of Hamas might survive this war but militarily they are done. Checking reactions in Western and World media very few people heard the news of the massacred family and even less people were moved. Pictures and stories of families decimated have been on the news for more than 3 years now, one or two or a dozen more are not going to make any difference. As for recruiting what you need first and foremost is not images that make the volunteers flock, you need money to keep these volunteers on your side. And Hamas has none having lost all its sponsors and allies. What’s left are these rockets in stock and with a fully efficient Iron Dome these rockets are worth nothing.
            To go back to the people of Gaza being responsible (as much as the people of Israel) for the war. Gazans have been benefitting from Iranian and later Qatari money. That’s what kept their mouth shut and supporting Hamas. Now, there’s no money, buildings and infrastructure destroyed, an even tighter siege from both Israel and Egypt, no sponsors or supporters besides Hind and Farq, not even a glimpse of a possible victory in sight… the reaction is going to be the loss of Hamas military wing support and legitimacy.

          22. IDF cancels attack if near the target are children or women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl7jNZ1mAUA

          23. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Can’t win ’em all …. sigh …

          24. AkhouManUki Avatar
            AkhouManUki

            Wow – do you think that the IDF should receive the nobel peace prize for this? Amazing how this footage came out right as they murdered a family of 8 just days before. What timing.

          25. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            “Hurting small [non-Jewish] children makes sense if it’s
            clear that they’ll grow up to harm us, and in such a situation – the
            injury will be directed at them of all people.”

            – The King’s Torah, written by Rabbi Yitzhak
            Shapira and Rabbi Yosef Elitzur, from the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the
            settlement of Yitzhar. (2010)

          26. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            What are you talking about? Israelis do not care about the Goyim… They are not chosen… That is chosen to be assholes… 😉

        3. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Now you are the spokesperson for Lebanon as well? You do hump a lot… From Beirut to Jerusalem is a LOT of humping 😉

          1. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            Its cookie

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            have u heard this song called ‘from paris to berlin’?? blease youtube it

          3. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Are your ancestors like… Arabs or something? You have a broblem with the p? 😛

          4. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            nobe it just makes me feel international

          5. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You’re such a bunk (punk) 😛 lol

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            English language has really gone downhill, hasn’t it? And there were 4 songwriters working on that?? 🙁
            Speaking of ‘Parisiennes’ however … they DO love to get out on the streets and march, don’t they?? :-)))

          7. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            dont u mean barisiennes? besides its a danish song 😉

        4. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          “”Goyim [non- Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that,
          they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel…
          Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap.
          We will sit like an effendi and eat… With gentiles, it will be like
          any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why?
          Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is
          his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

          – Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Late influential
          spiritual leader of the Shas party, which was a part of Prime Minister
          Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition government from 2009-2012. (September 2010)”

          1. Just facts Avatar
            Just facts

            You may find much better antisemitic “claims” on the internet. They are not new at all; very established antisemitic theories were available around 1514 and were implemented in 1939.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

          2. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            oh please the “antiblah blah blah” claim is wearing very thin. u need new material.
            Btw r u trying to say that those racist pigs didn’t say those things?

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And just like Good Muslims, Barabie, the Good Jews put down their idiots too.
            Don’t they ??

          4. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Rabbi Ovadia forgot to mention that the Goyim also exist to do his mother over and over… Such a bitch to bear such an animal.

          5. banging a dead body….somehow i can really see you do that..not surprised at all

          6. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Do you feel it?

          7. lol..i have sex with one life woman only.
            i leave the corpses and the donkies to you

          8. as i said before and somehow it was erased….
            i leave the dead ones and the donkies to you

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I do a donkey like you moron anytime…Have I struck a nerve somehow with my reference to your grandpa Ovadia? he he

          10. i’m not gay,underaged or animal lol…you will not enjoy it Hani Ahabal
            and yes you did , respect to the memories of dead is very important to me, nothing i can expect from you

          11. i’m not underaged/gay or beast or in other words: not your type hani Ahabal LOL

          12. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Zionazis are all gay beasts… Enough said!

          13. LOL.. did i touch a nerve Hani Ahabal?
            could it be you’re too shy about being a pedofile gay, nacrofeel?
            not ready to expose yourself yet in public?
            i wonder..how do you have a place for a donkey in that closet of yours?
            probably an under aged donkey..

          14. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Use something original moron, stop plagiarizing my sentences… What is this? Tit for tat? You must be like a 13 years old keyboard warrior pretending to be someone you’re not… Don’t you have a home to raid or a land to steal?

          15. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Oh no now the “chosen” assholes r gonna get all verbal diarrhoea.

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            AND, they will drink the finest Scotch. 😉

            (and having tried ALL the ‘religious wines’, the religious better get some advice from France on how to ‘create’ a grape …)

          17. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            prefer vodka mixed with a energy drink 🙂

          18. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
            the Gaza-Stripper

            at least mine are real

          19. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Yes ur stupidity is real, I agree.

  5. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    What else is there in a war except mourners,death of innocent civilians,homeless people

    ,cripples,!!War does not settle anything!!Blunders have been committed and more will be committed!!!

  6. Abbas urged to stop the violence, Hamas has accused him of betraying

  7. Btru2u Avatar

    The Arabs leadership should be ashamed of themselves if they are deterred by the flexing of Israeli muscle through the killing of unarmed civilians.
    If Hizbullah can beat them , a real army can destroy them.
    In a new cartoon pic an Arab petrol pump sign reads ARAB SILENCE, whilst an Israeli Tank fills up.

    1. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      When did Hezbushaitan beat them? All these Iranian entities are invading Lebanon Palestine Syria and let the Israelis take land after land in Palestine. They work as a Israeli border guard. So its not straight forward for the Arabs Leaders to send their solders. All these fake resistance group like Hamas Hezbushaitan needed to be cleansed from the area. Hamas just gave Israel the pretext to bomb and invade Gaza. I haven’t heard a single Israeli casualty but I hear that hamas is raining down rockets in Israel.

      Do you think that Europe America Russia would let these controlled opposition remain in these area if they were true rebel? If Hezbushaitan supposedly own against Israel in SIX day then why are they having problem against FSA in Syria? You know why ? Because The FSA do not fight picnic war like Israel did against Hezbushaitan. The situation is not straightforward that all those Arab countries will send solders.

      1. Btru2u Avatar

        You might have a point , but I don’t believe Hamas is trying to provoke Israel. Israel was already systematically bombing Gaza before the Palestinian firecrackers were launched. Just as Israel planned to invade Lebanon in 2006 to take the Litany river for their water supply.
        In the Middle East, the supply of water is much less than its demand, thereby resulting in conflict over it. This is true for Israel and Lebanon, where there have been struggles, although not always armed, for the waters of the Litani River. At this point, Israel occupies southern Lebanon. Part of the Litani is located in this region. There are conflicting reports and conclusions over whether or not Israel is using the Litani. There is also a verbal struggle over which country needs the Litani more, could make best use of it, and who, therefore, should develop their use of the Litani. Although there is not an armed struggle over it now, it has been involved in armed struggles in the past (in the 1967 war, and in 1982) and it is conceivable that in the future the struggles over it may become armed.

        We all remember that Jewish soldiers are cowards dogs who run as soon as they meet serious or even opposition.
        I detest what Hezeshaitain are doing in Syria, but to say they are allied with Israel , throws a spanner in the works. They did destroy millions of dollars , in tanks.
        How do you think the war should be waged.
        Allah knows best.

        1. $89733098 Avatar
          $89733098

          Btru2u I’m sorry to say this but u r wrong. Having a few tanks destroyed to achieve a bigger objective is nothing. Wargame is def right when he says the “war” between the hezbsatan and israhell was fake.
          What is Hamas achieving by launching firecrackers into potato fields?

          1. nothing but if they manage to get some israelis killed they will claim they “won” (another devine victory) and the fools in Gaza will give them another chance to try at israel.
            yesterday Hamas announced it is going to fire at 21:00 to tel aviv. it shot 9 rockets- none hit ofcourse but it didn’t stop the fools from declairing mission accomplished lol
            they sent 10 children to dance in the street to show how happy they are with this glorious victory….sending 9 rockets that cause no damage…
            i really don’t know who is the biggest fool- Hamas leaders or Hamas supporters.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            About brainwashing … it’s a horrible thing … supporters and leaders are.

          3. yep, but i don’t believe leaders on both sides are brain washed..they have a fixation about an agenda and they brain wash the population.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Then Doron, as I said, ‘The Fish Stinks From The Head’. 🙂
            Damn, those old Armenians were smart.

          5. can we settle for ‘the fish stinks’? 🙂

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Especially near the Mt. Sidon zone. :-))))

          7. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            “yesterday Hamas announced it is going to fire at 21:00 to tel aviv”

            Thats a loaded information telling the Israelis the exact timing so they can switch their Iron dome on. Well the Iron dome system is active 24 hours however a advance information can be a great help. Well these Iranian backed terrorist will bring more destruction on the Palestinian majority sunnis. Thats the ultimate goal for Iran. They love to do it in Syria and why not in Palestine

          8. it’s not correct WG1, Hamas already knows it can not bypass or surprise the Iron dome so they tryed a different approach:
            if they can not harm us , they try to affect our moral- so the fools announced the time they are going to lunch, put a clock with a count down till 21:00 and then they sent the rockets….fools

            however, i do agree about the iraninan plot- they pretend to spearhead the attack on the zionist country for the last 20 years, sweep all arabs behind them in the pretext of Muslims Vs Jews but in truth they never went against israel in anything but speaches- they left the dirty work for the arabs. all the while these non arabs quietly inching their way towards ME hegemony, HA agents in lebanon, iraqi HA, Huti Yemanies and shiat all over are happy to do the irani master’s bid.after all it is in the name of the holy religious.

            what the fools do not undserstand is that it’s not a religious war as far as the irani are concerned. it’s a colonial move, calculated and cautious one designed to bring iran as close as possible ,as quietly as possible towards it’s objective of controling the ME.

            for 30 years now israel is the carrot the Iranian are waving infront of the Arab horse to make it pull the cart in the desired direction. i’d laugh if it wasn’t that sad

          9. Btru2u Avatar

            What do you suggest Hamas the elected peoples government should do while they are being bombed.

          10. well..they can set a date for another elections..the original date for elections passed few years ago.
            acttualy- there is no indication that Hamas rule is what the Gazza people wish for now.
            Hamas is a dictaturship atm

          11. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            They should not endanger the Palestinian civilians. Who elected these fake rubbish? They all are Israeli controlled opposition. All these so called resistance group backed by Iran will be wiped out when the FSA from Syria and the Afghan Pushtuns come to liberate Palestine.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            fried potatoes ….

          13. $89733098 Avatar
            $89733098

            Ok that was funny

        2. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Hezbushaitan fights for their own interest and they fight against the sunnis. The Shia religion was invented by a Jew named Abdullah Ibn Al Saba. The entire Shia religion is based on Talmudic doctrine. According to their holy book the 12 Imam would supplicate to God in Hebrew, He learns from a container called “Al Jafr” and it contains the knowledge of the Israelite. And this 12 Imam would supposedly rule the world with the law of David!! i.e. Talmud. The Shias indoctrinate their people to rob the sunnis and they claim that it is halal to kill a sunni and rob them. You cant serve two masters at the same time. When you see Hezbushaitan is fighting against the sunnis in Syria and at the same time you believe that they are fighting FOR the sunnis in Palestine then I have a problem with that. They have invaded Syria Lebanon Palestine Iraq etc MUCH MUCH more land compare to Israel and the duty of the sunnis is to drive them out of these places. The question whether they are fighting against Israel or not is irrelevant. Israel never attacked Iran and Iran never attacked Israel , they do not share border. Iran is the first country in the middle east who recognize Israel when it was established. The Shia element was brought around it by the Israelis and their sponsors in order to create a buffer zone against the Arabs. Now the drama is set in such a way that the Arabs have become Zionist who do nothing and these stray dogs from Persia is supposedly helping the Sunnis in Palestine. This is a simple technique. Assad brought ISIS when the sunnis was doing great and then ISIS so far made 42 suicide bombing attack against the sunnis. Nuri Maliki did the same when he was losing bigtime against the sunni tribal rebel. Now ISIS is acting on behalf of Maliki and Iran. The Shias are the main follower of Dajjal and the most avowed enemy of Islam. Your thinking process is influenced by Hezbuttahrir ideology. Do you know that Hezbuttahrir Amir send their delegation in France and asked Khomenie to be their Khalifa and then again they send their delegation in Iran and aske Khomenie to be their Khalifa. When Khomenie established “Islamic” regime in Iran he posted big picture of Sayeed Qutb in Iran. Egypt didnt have diplomatic relation with Iran for about 20 years because they conspired in killing Anwer Sadat with the help of Muslim Brotherhood. But Morsi immediately visited Iran and restored the relationship. So its not surprising to me to see your thoughts about hezbushaitan. Again the saying ” You cant serve two masters at the same time”

          1. Btru2u Avatar

            Maybe you are right about hezbashaitan, and ISIS, but we do not know what is in peoples hearts. Even the prophet would not call the hypocrites munafiqs , because that is Allah’s judgement not ours.
            Maybe not all Shia think the same thing.
            Iyou are wrong about hizb tahrir, they if you read their recent statements about ISIS and the Arab dictators you will see they have the best interests of the umma at hearts, with a workable Plan to implement the a true khilafah . Only that unity within the umma will help us achieve victory. It’s sad to see that when the people of Syria and Palestine rose up against their oppressors, after much encouragement from all the do gooders, they were left in the lurch to unsuccessfully defend themselves. Truly they have been betrayed .
            I don’t know all the answers , but this Ramadan we should all be making bigger efforts in our worship, and actions of righteousness generosity , and maybe Allah (swt) might change the condition of our umm

          2. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Hezbuttahrir are the party of the Khwarij. No one asked them to establish Khelafa. Its their mission and the majority sunnis oppose them. Now they have their Khelafa in Iraq and we all will witness how they get acceptance from the Muslims all over the world. Their glossy propaganda on the internet is not the acceptance of the Muslims. If majority of Muslims accept them then they would not send the suicide bombers to kill them. These are the Dogs of the hell fire and Allah will destroy them in due time.

          3. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            You dont have to see what is in their heart when you see them beheading the Muslims. So far they made 42 suicide mission against the Syrian sunnis. AND YES this group call any one a Kafir who ever oppose them. I have no business what the Shia think. They curse the companions of the prophet , they curse the mother of the believers. But the Sunnis should not be at war with them if they are not attacked. The Hezbuttahrir also curse the companion of the prophet. I have learned about this group much. They are very secret in their belief but many of them defeted from the group and exposed them.

          4. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Why do I need to read what Hezbuttahrir says? Who appointed them in the first place? I have no business with this treacherous Khawarij. They are sponsored by the British Intelligence , The MI6

          5. Btru2u Avatar

            You truly have your head in the sand , in regards to hizb Tahrir, who are calling for a United umma under a khilafah rashidah to be established in the same way of the prophet.
            These brothers continuously defend the truth and love the umma Prophets family and companions. Do not demonise our brothers in Islam who are only defending the truth.
            Your words seem to be defending Israels actions. That is A very low blow from a brother. You need to strengthen your Iman , and start reading the quran , to receive guidance, and thinking of solutions, to unite the umma against its common enemies, without jumping on ISRAELS propaganda bandwagon.
            Good on the Palestinians for standing up for themselves with stones and firecrackers. It’s better than licking ISRAEL butt. The shame falls on the Arab puppet dictators who are serving the Zionists.

          6. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Hezbuttahrir are the Khawarij. They can call for a Khelafa but no one give a hoot about these Khawarij. Its this group Hezbuttahrir who are serving the Zionist. They are called the Dogs of the Hell fire. You should be ashamed to defend these Khawarij when all the Syrian rebel group rejected them. I have no reason to support this bastards when they kill the Muslims. They are rejected in Iraq. These are power hungry Head cutting savage and a bad news for the Muslims.

          7. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            A new video lecture and it may be beneficial for you to get out from supporting the Dogs of the Hell fire.
            ISIS & The Alleged Khilāfah:Treacherous Takfīrī Kharijites
            Here is the youtube video link
            /watch?v=Q5hGBksFqfk

          8. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Hesbuttahrir are formed by the Sufi and the Shia and there are clear evidence if you do a little background check. So if these people calling for Khelafa then only a fool will join in their bandwagon. The Sunnis always rejected this stupid movement. But the media presented them if they are representing the Sunni Islam. They are sponsored by Iran. Yesterday there was a Lecture in Manchester exposing the so called Khalifa of Iraq. Here is the youtube video Lecture

            /watch?v=EjPk37AUQDA

          9. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Kharijites: The Dogs of The Hellfire – Part 1 of 3. You will understand how the sunnis despise these treacherous parasite. I can assure you that there will be a time when the angry mob will lynch these dogs on the street. They have brain washed many sunni youth and put them in harms way thus weakening the sunnis in favor of Iran and Israel. This is a youtube video link of first part. You will find two other parts on youtube.
            /watch?v=ADArjvteUGU

          10. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Boko Haram voices support for ISIS’ Baghdadi. Another filthy scums and they work with Hezbushaitan!! How is it possible that every time these Al-Qaeda have direct link with Iran. The Syrian uprising exposed this group when they carried out 42 suicide mission against the Syrian sunni rebel and never fight against Assad. Nigerian Army Links Boko Haram To Hezbollah
            Nigerian troops in the Joint Task Forces in Kano said that investigations into the discovery of weapon cache found in a home occupied by Lebanese foreign nationals in Kano shows that Boko Haram Islamist militants have connections with the Lebanon-based Hezbollah. They also arrested two Hezbushaitan member working with the Boko Khawarij. The more you show your support on them the more your ugly face will expose.

          11. Btru2u Avatar

            wargame you must learn to read before accuse me of anything. I support the dawaa that hizb tahrir brings and I am not sure about the
            others which i admitted . you need to swallow some pride mate and stop making assumptions. There Is no need to arc up and insult me based on mainstream media accusations.

          12. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            I accused the Dogs of the hell fire who are creating fitna in Syria Iraq and elsewhere. You have your freedom and right to support any group you like. I support the FSA and Islam Brigade who are fighting against the oppression of Assad and Iran. Both FSA and Islam Brigade also are fighting against the ISIS Dogs because these Dogs killed many sunni fighters and carried out 42 suicide mission against FSA and Islam brigade. So I have no reason to support ISIS. Is it too difficult for you to swallow? Hezbuttahrir are a Iranian sponsored group who wanted Khomeini as their Khalifa. These Dogs and Al-Qaeda Dogs claimed 911 responsibility but that operation was engineered and exicuted by Israel Iran and a faction of US government. So this proves that these Tahrir and Qaeda work hand in hand with the enemy of Islam. You take this insult because you support these very group.

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            wargame1

            The lecture in Manchester England about the ISIS and the Fitna they are creating. I hope you can clear your head after you listen to this lecture. Here is the Youtube video link:
            ISIS: Historical Analysis of Its Ideology (Kharijites) 2 of 2
            /watch?v=58gNjtkpfPI

          14. Btru2u Avatar

            This is the comment I made on ISIS 10 days ago.
            Even though there are sincere Muslims fighting oppression with Isis. I believe that the ISIS leadership is a product of the CIA to further divide the region and hijack the revolution , preying on the vulnerable minds of sincere jihadists. Here some of the reasons for this belief .
            1: JUBHAT AL NUSRA, , fought and beat Assads troops in Syria, then ISIS moved in declaring victory and demanding allegiance from NUSRA.
            2: ISIS has shed the blood of the Muslim rebels including NUSRA , to forcibly impose their will on them, but ISIS not yet taken on not yet fought Assads troops.
            3. There is something fishy when you see 30000 fully armed Maliki troops flee and leave their weapons for 1000 ISIS troops.
            4: How can a khilafah state be declared when , no capital cities have been taken and secured for the the caliph and it’s people to move around freely and with security.
            5: He does not have the full support the majority of the people , and cannot move around safely .
            6: He declare that ISIS and NUSRA are united when no such agreement was made, and he has not even contacted or spoken to anyone.
            7: The caliphate was not established in the way of the prophet.

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            wargame1

            I read that particular comment of yours and gave a thumbs up too. Now the reason of My arguments contradict with you is due to our thinking process. I would like to demonstrate that with the hadis as why I think like this. I promised to bring those hadis but I was lazy. If you have seen the video of Anwer Al Awlaki where he stated the background of ISIS and clearly stated that they are the Khalifa of Banul Abbas. Awlaki was their supporter. Abbasid Khelafa was there in the past in Iraq and there are hadis that in the end of time Banul Abbas will create fitna in Iraq Syria etc. I have read those and after watching that Awlaki video I became more interested in those hadis. If you see history then you will find a strong rivalry between Abbasid and Umayad and the present conflict between the Islam Brigade and ISIS are the same old rivalry. Banu Hashem and Banu Umaya were long rival to each other. Abbasid also are from Banu Hashem. I will post them in a chronological manner so we can follow the unfolding events. If it happens then we will know that those hadis were narrated correctly.

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            wargame1

            Ali bin Abi Taleb (r.a.) said: ” Wait for the end of misery once three things occur.” We said: What are they, O’ Prince of Believers? He said: “The dispute among the people of AshSham (Syria), the Black Banners (battalions carrying black banners), and the Qaz’a in the month of Ramadan. It was asked: “What is the Qaz’a ? He said: “Haven’t you heard what Allah said in the Quran (26:4):”If We wish, We can send down to them from Heaven a sign, such that their necks remain surrendered to it (mesmerized in amazement).” This Aya (sign) that makes a girl come out of her bedroom, wakes up the person who is asleep, and frightens the one who is awake.” (Ibn Al-Shajari’s Al-Amali Al-Shajaria)

            NOTE: There are several hadis about a Asteroied/Meteorite falling in the east side of Syria near Euphrates river. Qaz’a is referring to that Asteroied. A tentative date i.e.Day of impact: Friday July 03, 2015(15th of Ramadan) Place of Impact: Syria Time of impact: Morning sometimes after the Fajr Prayer in Syrian time. From other hadis I have found that when the Ramadan begins on a Friday night then on the 15th of Ramadan Friday morning will have that asteroid impact. from other hadis we can find the timeline which is during the Syrian tribulation. Ramadan 2015 begins on Thursday night But there is a possibility that it will begin on Friday night depending on the Moon. So there is a probability.This is a different topic and I will share this asteroid event later sometimes.

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            Two Black Flags: one is from Iraq and one is from Afghanistan
            Muhammad bin Al-Hanafia, said: ” A black banner (army battalion) of Bani Al-Abbas ( family of Prophet Mohammad’s(Peace be upon him) uncle, Al-Abbas) will come out . Then, another black banner (army battalion) will come from Khorasan. Their turbans are black and their clothes are white. At their front end will be a man named Shuayb bin Salih, from Tamim (tribe) . They will defeat the supporters of the Sufyani (and proceed further) until he (Shuayb bin Salih) arrives to Jerusalem (where) he will lay the foundation for the Mahdi’s (future) dominion. He will be supplied with three hundred (men) from AshSham (Syria). From the time, he comes out (from Khorasan) until he hands over the matter (rule) to the Mahdi, there will be seventy two months (six years).” (Nuaim Ibn Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan).
            The first black flag of Banul Abbas is certainly from Iraq who are in Syria at the moment (Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Syria). But the Taliban is not in Syria yet.

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            End of the Black flag of Banul Abbas

            Ka’b said: “The perishing (end) of Bani Al-Abbas (the progeny of Al-Abbas) will be once a star appears in Jawf (region), and a Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) and Wahiya (catastrophe). All of this in the month of Ramadan. The redness will be between the 5th and 20th of Ramadan. The Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) is between the middle and the 20th (of Ramadan). The Wahiya (catastrophe) is between the 20th and 24th (of Ramadan). A star thrown (by Allah from Heaven) illuminates like a moon and then turns like a snake until its ends meet. Two tremors will be in the night of Fis’hain. The star thrown (by Allah from Heaven) is a Shahab (asteroid) that rushes from the sky with a powerful sound when it drops in the East and because of it, people will experience magnificent disasters.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan )
            star appears in Jawf region = This star is possibly the Tariq star mentioned in the Quran in Chapter 86. The Morning Star, The Nightcomer. It can be a comet . This will appear in the Eastern sky. This star has a Tail and it is very bright. It will appear several times in interval.

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            End of the black flag could be in 2015

            Ka’b said: “The end of the kingship of Bani Al-Abbas (the progeny of Al-Abbas) is redness in the sky which occurs between the 10th to 15th of Ramadan. A Wahiya (catastrophe) between the 20th and 24th of Ramadan and a star coming from the East that illuminates like a moon in a full moon night, then it turns. Also Ka’b said:”Drought in the East, Wahiya (catastrophe) in the West, redness in the Jawf (Interior), death that spreads (perhaps due to contagious diseases) in Qibla (Mecca).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan )

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            Black flag of Banul Abbas will not give their allegiance to Al-Mahdi

            Saeed (or Sayyid) bin Al-Musayyab reported: “Black Banners will come from the East from the descendants of Al-Abbas. They will remain for whatsoever Allah wishes. Then, small Black Banners from the East will come to fight a man from the descendants of Abu Sufyan . They will give their allegiance to the Mahdi.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)
            The first Black Flag holders will not give their allegiance to Al-Mahdi but the second Black flag from Khorashan are the army of Al-Mahdi. This is also logical as those who are cherishing the ISIS Khelafa will reject any other leader.

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            Black banners of Banul Abbas differs and splits

            Ali bin Abi Taleb (r.a.) said: “When the black banners differ among each other, a town/city of the towns/cities of Iram and the western side of its Mosque collapses. Then, in AshSham,Syria) three banners (armies) come out for each of the As’Hab (reddish white man), Abqa’, and Sufyani. The Sufyani comes from AshSham and the Abqa’ from Egypt. The Sufyani will defeat them.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan)

            Al-Walid bin Muslim narrated based on an old man: “If the black banners split into 3 groups: a group calling for the progeny of Fatima (to rule the Muslims), a group calling for the progeny of the Abbas, and a group calling for (the kingship to be) for themselves…” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)
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            We have seen the Black banner of Al-Qaeda split in to three i.e. Al Nusrah ISIS and Al-Qaeda

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            Black flag differs among each other

            Ali bin Abi Taleb (r.a.) said: “When the black banners differ among each other, a town/city of the towns/cities of Iram and the western side of its Mosque collapses. Then, in AshSham (syria) , three banners (armies) come out for each of the As’Hab (reddish white man), Abqa’, and Sufyani. The Sufyani comes from AshSham(Syria) and the Abqa’ from Egypt. The Sufyani will defeat them.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan)
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            This event of “western side of its Mosque collapses” Possibly indicates the western wall of Al-Aqsa which is also the Jewish jewish wailing wall. Yet to be happened.

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            Another Army from the Magreb (Morocco Tunisia Alzeria) will come or already in Syria and they will be in Egypt too

            Reported on a chain of transmission on the authority of Ka’b: ” The sign of the coming-out of the Mahdi is (army) battalions coming from Al-Maghreb , led by man who is an A’raj (Can not walk properly or Limper) from Kinda.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan page 205)

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            wargame1

            A land slide/Earth Quake in ” Harasta” in Syria

            “The Earth will swallow a village called Harasta near Damascus.” (Muhammad Al-Barzanji’s book Isha’ah li Ashrat Al-Sa’a)

            Khaled bin Ma’daan said: “Sufyani defeats the group twice, then perishes. The Mahdi will not come out until a Khusf (land collapse) occurs in a village in Ghota called Harasta.” (Ibn A’sakir)

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            wargame1

            The demise of the Black banner (timeline)

            Al-Walid bin Muslim said: “The black banners (battalions) will remain victorious against those who oppose them until the Turks enter (Muslim lands) through the door of Armenia.” He added: “The first sign of the signs of their demise is their dispute among each other.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan )
            In my openion This is the black banner of Banul Abbas from Iraq i.e. ISIS

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            The Eastern tribulation on the Arabs

            Narrated from Ka’b bin Alqama : “There will be, [after the Fitna (trouble) in AshSham (Syria), an eastern one (Fitna) which will be the devastation of the kings and the humiliation of the Arabs, until the people of the Maghrib come out.” (Nuaim bin Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan, No. 53)
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            The Eastern fitna (tribilation) is very likely an attack from Iran and from the Syrian regime or by ISIS on Saudi Arabia. “people of the Maghrib” magreb refers to Morocco Tunisia Alzeria etc.

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            wargame1

            Refering to Chechnya ,Iraq Syria

            Our Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: ” There will be such troubles and calamities that nobody will be able to find a place of shelter. These woes will move around AshSham (Greater Syria), fall upon Iraq and tie the hands and feet of the Arabian Peninsula. A group of Muslims will fight against troubles in the steppes. Nobody will feel any sympathy for them or even say, ‘Alas!’ As they try to remedy their woes from one side, the woes will emerge again on the other side.” (Muntakhab Kanz Al-Ummal, vol. 5, pp. 38-39)
            The world’s largest steppe region, often referred to as “the Great Steppe”, is found in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and neighbouring countries in stretching from Ukraine in the west through Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to the Altai, Koppet Dag and Tian Shan ranges.

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            Egypt will face two invasion one of by the Romans and another one is possibly Al-Qaeda from Magreb.
            Ka’b bin Alqama said: “If the Maghreb invades Egypt…the chief of the Maghreb will be a man from Kinda who is A’raj (can not walk properly).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

            Najeeb bin Al-Sirri said: “People of Maghreb go on 2 expeditions: one of them ends by reaching Qantara of Fustat (old Cairo) and tie their horses to it. The other one (expedition) is to AshSham (Greater Syria).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

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            wargame1

            Attack on the coastal region of Syria

            Aqba bin Amer Al-Juhni said: ” If the People of Maghreb go on an expedition, the Romans will take over the Maghreb. Alexandria and Egypt and the coast of AshSham will be devastated.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

            coast of AshSham is the Syrian coastal region of Alawite stronghold.

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            The army coming from the Magreb

            Najeeb bin Al-Sirri said: “Abd-Rahman leads the People of Maghreb in an expedition when the Romans have taken over Alexandria. So, they (People of Maghreb) will fight them (Romans) and defeat them and get them out.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)
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            This Abdur rahman from the Magreb will possibly declare himself as Khalifa same as Bagdadi did in Iraq.

          31. Btru2u Avatar

            Allahu aalam . intereting times ahead. May our actions and intentions stay pure and only for the sake of Allah.

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            Fight between the black banner and the yellow banner

            Al-Zubri said: ” Those of the black banners and those of yellow banners will meet and fight until they reach Palestine. Then, the Sufyani marshes against the people of the East (of black banners). Once the people of Maghreb land in Jordan, their chief dies, so they split into 3 groups. One group returns to where it came from. One group goes to perform Hajj. One group remains. The Sufyani fights and defeats them so they will pledge allegiance to him.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

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            Fight between the Black banner and Yellow banner

            Al-Zubri said: “If the black banners differ among each other, the yellow banners will attack them. They will meet at the Qantara of the People of Egypt. The people of the East (with black banners) and the people of the Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, or Tunis) (with yellow banners) fight each other for seven (probably, for 7 months). The people of the East will be defeated to the extent that (people of the Maghreb) will land in Al-Ramla (in Palestine). Something will happen between the people of AshSham and the people of the Maghreb that will make people of the Maghreb angry. So, people of the Maghreb will say: We came to aid you and you do what you are doing, we will quit (tilting the balance of power) between you and people of the East ! They warn you because the people of AsSham (Syria)will be few in number in the eyes of the people of Maghreb. Then, the Sufyani will come out and the people of AshSham (Syria) will follow him. So, he will fight people of the East.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fita

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            People of Magreb in Damascus

            Mohammad bin Al-Hanafiya said: “The People of Maghreb enter Damascus Mosque and while they are looking at its marvels, there will be a land tremor so the western part of the Mosque will collapse and there will be a Khusuf (land collapse) in a town called Harasta. Then, the Sufyani comes out and fights them until he pushes them back to Egypt. Then, he returns and fights the People of the East until he pushes them back to Iraq.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)
            This hadis indicating that the people of Magreb has entered in Damascus! referring to the Grand Mosque of Damascus where Jesus(peace be upon him) will descend. Youtube video link of that Mosque bellow
            watch?v=RxD2900pDQc

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            The Romans and the Turk alliance in attacking Egypt

            Abi Otba, a Mala of Amr bin Al-Aas said: ” Egypt will be devastated when it gets hit by the four arrows: the arrow of the Turks, arrow of the Romans, arrow of Abyssinia (Ethiopia or East Africa), and arrow of people of Andalusia.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

            Andalusia of today can be Spain, Portugal, Andorra and part of southern France.

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            Turk and Roman alliance

            Artat bin Al-Munzir said: “If the Turks and Romans (in alliance) amass their armies and a village in Damascus experiences Khusf (land collapse), and a group of people fall off the western end of their mosque, then three banners will be raised in AshSham: Abqa’, As’Hab (reddish, white man), and Sufyani. A man in Damascus will be besieged, then killed with those who are with him. Two men from Bani Sufyan will appear (probably As’Hab and Sufyani), the second one will be the victorious. Once the support armies of Abqa’ approach, the Sufyani defeats them. He (Sufyani) will kill the Turks and Romans (Europeans) in Qirqisia (an ancient city in Eastern Syria) until the foxes in the land satisfy their hunger from their flesh (of the Turks and Romans).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan)

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            The Turk invasion of Northern Iraq!

            Ka’b bin Alqama said: “The Turks will invade the Jazeerah (Northern Iraq) and their horses drink from the Euphrates. Allah will afflict them with the plague that kills them and none of them will survive except one man.” He is also quoted saying: ” They will land in Aamid, drink from Tigres and Euphrates, and go freely around Al-Jaeerah (Arabian Peninsula or Northern Iraq) and no one will be be able to do anything about them. So, Allah (s.t.) will afflict them with a snow, wind, and ice so they become non-moving (meaning they freeze to death). People will come back and say Allah has caused them to perish and eliminated your enemy and none of them remained, all of them perished.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

            Makhul said that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him)said: ” The Turks will make two invasions: one of them will be in which they will devastate Azerbaijan, and in the second one, they will reach to the shore of the Euphrates (river).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

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            wargame1

            The Turks and the Khazars appear in Arabian Peninsula or Northern Iraq

            Ibn Masud said: “If the Turks and Khazar appear in Al-Jazeera (Arabian Peninsula or Northern Iraq) and Azerbaijan while the Romans appear in Omq (valley in Antioch & Northern Syria) and its outskirts. The Romans will fight a man of Qais tribe from the people of Qansareen. The Sufyani in Iraq fights the People of the East. In each side, there is an enemy. After he (the Sufyani) fights them for 40 days and does not get support (from Muslims in other regions), he reconciles with the Romans such that neither party will owe the other one anything.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan )

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            wargame1

            Amaar bin Yusr said: “The sign of the Mahdi is: The Turks sweep down against you. Your Caliph who seeks wealth dies and you elect a successor after him who is weak so he gets deposed after 2 years from the Bay’a. A Khusf (collapse) occurs to the West end of Damascus mosque. The emergence of three individuals in AshSham (Greater Syria). The attack of People of the West on Egypt. This is the beginning of the reign of the Sufyani.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan )

            There are three Sufyani. Assad can be the second Sufyani and his Father is the first who is dead already.

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            Al-Mahdi fights the Turks and gain huge booty
            Artat bin Al-Munzir said: “The Mahdi will send the the first battalion he formed to (fight) the Turks. He defeats them and takes what they have from spoils and money. Then, he marshes to Syria and conquers it. Then, he emancipates (frees) all the slaves he has and give their owners their value.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan, Jalal-uddine AsSuyuti’s Al-Urf Al-Wardi fi Akhbar Al-Mahdi, a part of Al-Hawi li Al-Fatawa)

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            The Sufyani fights the Turks

            Artat bin Al-Munzir said: ” The Sufyani will fight the Turks. Their eradication (uprooting) will be at the hands of the Mahdi. The first battalion formed by the Mahdi will be send to (fight) the Turks.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan, Jalal-uddine AsSuyuti’s Al-Urf Al-Wardi fi Akhbar Al-Mahdi, a part of Al-Hawi li Al-Fatawa)

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            wargame1

            TWO SELF APPOINTED kHALIFA ! FIRST ONE IS FROM THE EAST AND THE OTHER ONE IS FROM THE WEST.
            “When there comes to you a document from the East that will be read out to you as: “From the slave of Allah, ‘Abdullah, Amir al-Mu’mineen (Prince of the Faithful Believers),” then await another document coming to you from the West that will be read out to you as: “From the slave of Allah, ‘Abd-Rahman, Amir al-Mu’mineen (Prince of the Faithful Believers).” Then, by He (God) in whose hand is Huzayfa’s soul, you will fight them near Al-Qantarah, and they will expel you far, far away from the land of Egypt and the land of AshSham (Syria), and an Arabian woman will be sold at the stairs of Damascus for twenty-five dirhams.” (Nuaim bin Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan, No. 52)

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            The chief of the Army of Magreb is a limper (can not walk properly)

            Ka’b bin Alqama said: “If the Maghreb invades Egypt…the chief of the Maghreb will be a man from Kinda who is A’raj (can not walk properly).” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

            Reported on a chain of transmission on the authority of Ka’b bin Alqama “The sign of the Mahdi’s appearance will be battalions coming from the Maghreb, lead by A’raj (Limper) from ‘Kinda. )” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s Kitab Al-Fitan page 205)
            This event is about to unfold Maghreb is West is they are Morocco Tunisia Algeria

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            Black banner and Yellow Banner fighting in Palestine

            Al-Zubri said: ” Those of the black banners and those of yellow banners will meet and fight until they reach Palestine. Then, the Sufyani marshes against the people of the East (of black banners). Once the people of Maghreb (of yellow banners) land in Jordan, their chief dies, so they split into 3 groups. One group returns to where it came from. One group goes to perform Hajj (Pilgrim in Mecca). One group remains. The Sufyani fights and defeats them so they will pledge allegiance to him.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

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            5thDrawer

            That’s half an ‘up’ for the line on ‘actions of righteous generosity’.
            I don’t see much of it.

        3. it’s unfair to call it firecrackers..it’s state of the art Gaza manufacture 🙂
          but seriously- it’s not fire crackers at all. it inflicted damage in property and life losses before.
          Iron dome took the sting out of this terror from the sky but by no means we should treat a rocket with 50-100kg of explosives as firecrackers.
          i look at the pics you post and it looks as if you expect us to apologize for defending our citizens..or better yet, expect we drop iron dome all together so you can see some israeli blood spills?? this is what you want anyway- to see dead israelis…
          what ever reservations you have for Gaza death tol it comes down to this:
          1. hamas do not take measurse to defend civilians
          2. Hamas is cinicly useing civilians as shields to fighters

          every drop of blood spilled in Gaza is Hama’s risponsibility

          1. Btru2u Avatar

            The disproportionate use of force by Israel is to blame.
            I have no problems with finding and trialing the puportraitors of the murders any innocent civilians.
            But Israel has to implement justice as usuall and rubs its hands in delight as it continues with its agenda of killing and tortuturing the innocent indeginous people of Palestine.
            Any civilised country would have handled this differently.
            Quran 17:04 And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, “You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.

          2. it is not disproportionat at all Btr2u, unless you want us to drop our def so the Hamas people feel better for killing israelis.
            had the rockets Hamas is firing ,all hit israel, you would see a “proportionate” killing..would it help anyone except Hamas? NO! but it will satisfy your need for proportionat killing.
            the solution is very simple really: Hammas stops- we stop. Hammas continues- we continue and who ever defends his people best will have less casualties!
            we are not going to throw out of the window the time and effort we invested in defending our people inorder for the guy on the other side to feel it is a “fair” war (as if there was ever a thing called a fair war…)

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            TheUSequalsTheIS

            n who is hammas?

          4. Hamas’s evil tween

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            TheUSequalsTheIS

            lolzzz

          6. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            The rocket attack by Hamas (If it is real) is wrong. First of all What are the Targets? According to hamas they launch those rockets “Deep in to Israel” !! Immediately its a forbidden act of Islam. If its a war then their target should strictly be against the Army. But by their own definition they are launching those rockets against the civilians in Israel. NOW in reality the latest news from Israel is …10 Israeli “injured”.. on the other hand Israeli aerial bombing destroyed homes and killed over hundred Palestinians. The plan is to invade Gaza and Hamas is helping Israel by creating the pretext. Its Israel who asked Hamas to launched those rockets in a certain safe location

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            Hamas is more criminal than Israel as they are the one responsible in exposing the Palestinians in harms way

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            wargame1

            If you dont have enough protection and then you still throw a stone on a hornet’s nest and endanger your own people then do not blame the Hornets. If you have protection of your own and let the other expose then its a crime. So the latest violence in Palestine is a crime by Hamas in the first place and then Israel who are taking full advantage of the situation.

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            So far only TEN Israeli are injured. Now the question is what type of Missile are these? Those Iron dome is a theory , in reality they can prevent some of the missiles but most of them are not possible to prevent. Its not like computer video game. Palestinians share border with Israel and Hamas do not need to fire rockets “Deep inside Israel” when they can fight the armed Israeli in the border. Something fishy is going on. To me its Hamas who collaborate with Israel and paving the way for Israel to invade Gaza. For the last FORTY years these Iranian backed so called resistance did just that time and again. You dont need forty years to liberate a country. And where is the resistance if you compare the resistance of the Iraqi sunnis and the Afghans against the occupation force? We have seen hundreds of thousands of damaged Tanks and other military hardware. Look at the FSA resistance , they have destroyed atleast 4000 tank of Assad and many aircraft too. What is happening in Palestine is Iranian Picnic war if you compare their war against the sunnis in Syria. They are killing the sunnis in Syria and “Protecting” the sunnis in Palestine…….LoL Its not a war but they aid Israel in invading Palestine and Israel aid them in invading Lebanon

          10. where did you get your statistics from, wargame??iron dome is a theory??
            well that theory looks very much real to me standing in a field outside of my city and intercepting Hamas rockets.
            and it is exactly like a video game- fast calculationg of a projectile’s course, determining it’s a danger and intercepting it out of it’s way.
            they fire deep into israel cause in their perseption if they hit a stratigic target AND lose the war- they still won it…i don’t see the logic in it but maybe a fellow arab would.
            they aim for Haifa’s petrochemical factories and oil distilers.
            they aim for Hadera and it’s power plant
            they aim at ben gurion air port and some other locations as well

            besides, it’s a little bit insulting that after so many years and so many wars israel went through and won, you attribute our victories to a sellout of our enemies..i’d agree with you on incompatance but not a sell out.we lost too many good men for this to be a sell out

          11. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Show me some videos so by observation we can establish the science. Have you seen hundreds of videos from Syria on how a ATGM destroy a tank? Show us some Israeli Iron dome in action first then we will establish this theory as practical thing. So far you have given us the theory. This theory was done during the Reagan era called Star Wars of star wars anti-ballistic missile program. It was proven not that rosy as it was stated. The whole system has one integral part i.e. Tracking so where is the video from Israel? There is one possibility that these missiles are harmless fire crackers but exactly look like a missile. Another possibility is Israel gave the location to Hamas on where and which direction they should launch the missile

          12. well if you can come to israel i’d be happy to have you as a guest (no joke) and take you to an iron dome battery on the outscirts of my city.
            other way is to type iron dome on youtube…you really got me confused here, i can’t get you 1000 meters into the air to be next to the interceptor when it shots down the missile

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Wargame. If you go back to even the invention of the tank times, and into modern times, you will see that being IN a tank is NOT the safest little thing to volunteer for. It’s something like a ‘land-submarine’. Everything is nice and cosy … until the environment enters. And if humans build that, they will always search for a way to allow the environment in.
            WAR MACHINE BUILDING has always been a never-ending battle to find a way to get away from those really messy, painful, and personal moments with adversaries slogging it out in a muddy field and getting the clothes dirty.
            It’s about numbers … again. A tank can take out more than it’s crew of four (or whatever) before those four go down. Simple mathematics.
            And after a battle, we can hope someone does the recycling. Too.

          14. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            ‘every drop of blood spilled in Gaza is Hama’s risponsibility’

            i wud like to know who hama is?

        4. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I was thinking of Btru2u when I ran across this …. 😉

          1. don’t know about btru2u but this is a funny pic lol

      2. FSA& ISIS are harder to confront for 2 major reasons:
        A. the rebeles have the support of the local population in the areas they occupy
        B. for the first time HA found itself fighting an enemy that fights gerila war, first time that HA is not the agile muskito that stings but the fat clumzy elephent that the muskito stings

        1. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Very good analysis. Hezbushaitan and Iran have no chance to win in Syria. They will keep sending their troops in to the meat grinder. It will make them bankrupt in the end. But the victory of FSA will be slow as they dont have heavy weapon. Assad and Iran will be the victim of their own weapon because when ever a ATGM or Anti Aircraft missile fall in to the rebel hand its a bad news for Assad and Iran. I have read the analysis of Asymmetrical war where the modern war machine bogged down against the poorly armed rebel.

          1. thats another good analisys as well.
            both sides will lose here.neither will be able to maintain security in the country. armed sides will fracture to sects and loclized regional warlords. the lad of Syria is bound for many more years of instability

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Ah look at the traitor Islamist agreeing with the Zionist… So fitting. Do you like do each others as well? Since it is hard for you to get laid before the afterlife?

          3. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            Dyou think Moses will split the Mediterranean to let 1.7 million cockroaches go to Cyprus?

          4. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Of course he will but half way through he will command the sea to close on the 1.7 million zionists to rid the world of this pest 😉
            Let’s hump…

          5. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
            Ivana Humpalot

            Gazans are zionists? Id almost feel sorry if they converted to Judaism halfway

          6. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            hannibal what habbened to u? in the bast we never agreed but know i actually like ur comments

          7. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            The problem is yours as once your daddy Hezbushaitan is out of the picture you will become marinated. Islam doesnt teach to hate the Jews or the Christians but you fake Christians do. Sucking the iranian cock wont help much as the FSA will be visiting Lebanon

        2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          good to know

          1. the irani leaders already know that, they knew from before it started, still they have to risk it all for the shiat cresent future

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            amazing

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            :-)))

          4. lol, any pros or cons or we stick to sarcazem alone today?

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Better hang in with the sarcasm … I haven’t really seen any ‘pros’.

          6. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            no absolutely not 7abibi. i love u

      3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        again we cant invade something that is already ours

        1. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Nu’aym ibn Hammad narrated from Ibn Muhayriz that he said: “The Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said:

          “Persia will only take one or two thrusts, and then there will be no Persia after that. But the Romans will have many generations: whenever one generation goes, another one will take their place.”

          And their most recent manifestations are undoubtedly the United States of America, and the European Union along with Canada Australia Newzealand and many other lands where they rule. Now you majoos compare with them . What have you achieved after the Arabs broke your back bone and conquered Persia? You have managed to sneak in to some Arab country by installing stooge and most of the time with the help of the Romans. Your Nuke power plant was made by USA…..LoL. Israel sold many billions of Droller Arms. You should be ashamed and see how the prophesy fulfilled.

          1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            the messenger of allah was a liar

          2. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            Oh really!! let us see the forth coming events and we will have the answer.

        2. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          The desolation of Persia from brigands (Bandits, robbers, plunderes). Your fate is sealed!

          al-Qurtubi narrated in at-Tadhkirah from Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman [radhiyallahu ‘anhu], from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) that he said:
          “Desolation will not begin to overtake the lands of the Earth until Egypt is made desolate, and Egypt will be safe from desolation until al-Basrah is made desolate.

          The desolation of al-Basrah will be from flooding, the desolation of Egypt from the drying up of the Nile, the desolation of Makkah and the desolation of al-Madinah from hunger, the desolation of Yemen from locusts, the desolation of al-Ubullah from siege, the desolation of Persia from brigands (Bandits, robbers, plunderes), the desolation of the Turks from the Daylamites (Persians), the desolation of the Daylamites from the Armenians, the desolation of the Armenians from the Khazars, the desolation of the Khazars from the Turks, the desolation of the Turks from lightning strikes, the desolation of Sind from India, the desolation of India from China, the desolation of China from drought, the desolation of the Abyssinians from earthquakes, the desolation of az-Zawra’ from the Sufyani, the desolation of ar-Rawha’ from being swallowed by the earth, and the desolation of ‘Iraq from killing.”

      4. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Israel screws your nation and you blame Iran… Keep going. You sound like a broken record.

        1. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Yes we blame Iran and the war is going on in Syria. Once the Majoos are wiped out of Syria the rebel will visit you too. You maronite Christians enjoyed the Majoosi joy ride but I think its going to be over.

          1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            well tell ur allah to shut up, he obviously gives u these crazy ideas

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Haven’t you learned that the Maronites are “shawke be 3aynak”? Nobody EVER can uproot us… The Arabs tried, the Turks tried, the Palestinians tried and we remain… Salibna be ardna maghroos… We were there first as Phoenicians Arameans before the Arabs or Islam was ever invented and you came in as usurpers of our land… Go back to your towel head, Camel jockey, Sand Nigger peninsula and rot with the deshdeeshe wearing mekenseh bearded donkeys.

          3. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            You are already uprooted. Tell me your percentage in the whole middle east.

          4. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Moot point… We identify ourselves with the nation not the religion…
            Speaking of numbers, gems are rare but shit is everywhere…
            Go lick your wounds dog…

    2. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      What Arabs? You mean those rich brats in the desert? All sold out long time ago happy on their thrones…

  8. master09 Avatar
    master09

    “They are bombing innocent people. There are missiles being launched by Hamas, but the Israeli response is disproportionate. They are attacking the civilian population and not Hamas officials.”
    Well stop Fn putting or firing missiles from houses and schools where children and women are. What do you xpect the other side to do sit back and smoke a cigar you clowns.

    1. sweetvirgo Avatar
      sweetvirgo

      Neither one of them will stop until one annihilate’s the other. This is what I fear.

      1. master09 Avatar
        master09

        This is never going to stop because hate in this world is stronger then love. I bet you if the women and children on both sides are left to make the plan for peace it will happen over night.

        1. sweetvirgo Avatar
          sweetvirgo

          Unfortunatley you are right. There is no more love.

  9. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
    Ivana Humpalot

    Gaza should be turned into a big parking lot for Ashkelon beach

    1. $89733098 Avatar
      $89733098

      And u should b turned into fertiliser for a junkyard.

    2. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
      the Gaza-Stripper

      Hey, get off my corner you sicko.

      1. Ivana Humpalot Avatar
        Ivana Humpalot

        Babe you sure those tits are from allah?

        1. the Gaza-Stripper Avatar
          the Gaza-Stripper

          the muonds allah created for enjoyment are on the back of a camel. My mounds are 100% real

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ahh .. back to %ages. Hmmm … Maybe we can get to have a ‘vote’? 😉
            (yes, yes … you get to keep the face-mask on .. )

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      It was a tough vote to get.

  10. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
    Maborlz Ez-Hari

    Where are the rebels, the nusra’s, the isis’s, the brotherhood, salafi’s, the azzam brigades, where is the arab league, saudi arabia, Jordan, all the emirs and sheiks? Isreali kleb are attacking and killing for their enjoyment, randomly and indiscriminately targeting and aiming at civilians with their US funded terrorist idf. The arabs know how to kill each other, plant bombs in roadsides for their countrymen, place bombs in busy markerts and mosques, kidnapping and beheading people in nearby villages but when the isreali kleb are out on the prowl the arabs stay well away.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Sad…

  11. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Someone is trying to post up here … and not succeeding … hehehhe
    Probably needs a name ….

  12. Can the esteemed people here EDUCATE the rest if this is not true about the chosen people?
    The current Jews in Israel do not originate from Palestine! They are not “descendants” of the mythic Jews of the Bible!
    The fact that over 95% of those today calling themselves “Jews”, are actually descendants of the Khazarpeople, originating from southern Russia:. Jews from Eastern Europe and Western Asia were descended from Mongolians and other Asiatic peoples who had adopted Judaism as their “religion” over 1,000 years ago and had become know as “Jews.”

    The history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry..

    Khazars adopt Judaism as their religion in A.D. 740.
    Majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not Semitic. Refers to 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia and A. N. Poliak, Professor, Medieval Jewish History, Tel Aviv University.
    Jews more closely related to Hun, Uigur, and Magyrs than to the seed of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
    Khazars exacted tribute from subject peoples.
    Identified them with the hosts of Gog and Magog.
    German word Ketzer is our word for Khazar and means heretic or Jew.
    Khazars were with Attila the Hun in 4th century.
    Some were phallic worshipers, killed anyone thought to be extra intelligent and called it an offering to god.
    Quotes 1,000-year-old Arab historian, “The Khazars and their King are all Jews…some are of the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars.”
    Khazars were re-exporters of foreign goods, middlemen, inspectors of trade, goldsmiths, and silversmiths; and they exacted 10% tax on all trade.
    Jews fled Rome and Greece to Khazaria to avoid forced conversion to Christianity. They adopted Islam when forced, repudiating it when safe.
    Khazar King, in a letter, traced his people in Togarma and Japheth, the ancestors of all the Turkish tribes.
    In A.D. 864 a monk wrote “there exists a people under the sky in regions where no Christians can be found, whose name is Gog and Magog, and who are Huns; among them is one called Gazari [Khazari?], who are circumcised and observe Judaism in its entirety.”
    Russian communists tried to hide Khazar-Jewish connection!
    History of breaking up of Khazar Empire and integration of these Jews into Russia, Poland, etc.
    Khazar kingdom known as a kingdom of “Red” Jews.
    Khazars joined Ghengis Khan and retained their Judaism.
    Interchangeable names –Khazar, Zhid (or Yid), and Jew .
    Majority of Jews in Middle Ages were Khazars.
    Jews were mintmasters, royal treasurers, tax collectors, and money lenders. Principal source of income was foreign trade and the levying of customs dues and they practiced communal life.
    They lost the name of Khazars and became known as Jews. During Dark Ages commerce largely in Jewish hands, including slave trade.
    During Crusades whole families and towns of Jews committed suicide rather than accept Christianity.
    Proves only a handful of Sephardim Jews were in Europe so the vast majority of Jews today are Khazar in origin.
    Gives origin of Yiddish language. It is NOT Hebrew!
    “The Jewish dark ages may be said to begin with the Renaissance.” This remark by the Jew Cecil Roth, coupled with other information, is a sorrowful admission that the Jews were supreme in the Dark Ages but lost their dominion over Europe when the Light of God’s Word brought about the Renaissance!)
    Quotes from many sources to prove Jews NOT descended from Biblical Israelites, ending with this, …evidence from anthropology concurs with history in refuting the popular belief in a Jewish race descended from the biblical tribe.
    Israeli’s right to exist…not based on…the mythological covenant of Abraham with God; it is based on international law — i.e., on the United Nations’ decision of 1947…
    Many Jews have learned of their Khazar ancestry and now reject the Chosen-Race doctrine.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Finally got a name I see …. next time, don’t try so often to post … please.

  13. Is this true about the infallible Chosen One’s?
    Khazar Empire, Illuminati and New World Order?
    Bolshevik Jews Plotted The Ukrainian Holocaust!
    The Jewish Genocide of 1.4+ Million Armenian Christians!
    The Bolshevik Jews Behind The Deaths of 40+ Millions During The Communist Revolution!
    YNET Israel News: Stalin’s Jews. We Mustn’t Forget That Some of Greatest Murderers of Modern Times Were Jewish!
    Bolshevik Jews Plotted The Ukrainian Holocaust!
    Mark Weber: The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia’s Early Soviet Regime! During Which 20+ Million Russians Died !
    Ashkenazi Khazars (90+% of modern Jewry) are not the Jews of the Bible!
    The 2002 Jenin Holocaust of Palestinians By Zionist ’666′ Israel !
    Deir Yassin Remembered ! The 1948 Holocaust of Palestinians by Zionist ’666′ Israel !
    Jewish Historian Ilan Pappe: History of Zionism – Genocide And Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine!
    Jenin Massacre?
    Jewish Historian Teddy Katz: 1948 Tantura Massacre of Palestinians! Genocide And Ethnic Cleansing!
    Zionist ’666′ Israeli Apartheid and The Nakba!
    Forget Deir Yassin: Its Victims Were “Unworthy”! The Holocaust of Palestinians by Zionist ’666′ Israel !
    Holocaustianity: Zionism’s Big Lie!
    Repost: Holocaust, Hate Speech & Were the Germans so Stupid?
    Jack Bernstein: The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel !
    Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land ! US Media And The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict!
    ’666′ Star of David, Satanic Curse / Hex(agram) On Humanity! Occult Symbol.
    The Historical Truth About Auschwitz!
    Mark Weber: Wilhelm Höttl And The Elusive ‘Six Million’! Part 2 – How Many Jews Died?
    Jewish Estimate Sees Number of Holocaust Dead Drop To 2.8 Million!
    Fred Leuchter: The End of The Auschwitz Gas Chambers Myth!
    Fred A. Leuchter, Jr.: Inside the Auschwitz ‘Gas Chambers’!
    The Rudolf Report: Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz!
    Barbara Kulaszka: What is ‘Holocaust Denial’?
    How Many Died At Auschwitz?
    How the Illuminati Manipulates Jews!
    Hitler Was A Rothschild Jew?!
    Norman Finkelstein on Zionism And The Holocaust Industry!
    Holocaust Denier Death, Mossad Linked. How Many Jews Died in the German Concentration Camps?
    Gideon Levy: Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians, Or, Democratic Israel At Work?!
    Israel Admits It Covertly Canceled Residency Status of 140,000 Palestinians!
    Flashback 1990: Holocaust Expert Rejects Charge That Nazis Made Soap From Jews!

  14. Is this true?
    A Jew is one who remains faithful to the laws of the Jewish religion, that is, the Holy Torah and its commandments.
    The Jewish people became a people before they had their own land, and continued to exist as a people also after they went Into exile, because our very peoplehood is based exclusively on the Torah.
    The Holy Land was given to the Jewish people on the condition that they observe the Torah and its commandments. When they failed to do this, their sovereignty over the land was taken from them, and they went into exile. From that time, we are prohibited by the Torah with a very grave prohibition to establish a Jewish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world.
    Rather, we are obligated to be loyal to the nations under whose protection we
    dwell.
    This situation has existed for close to 2000 years when the Jewish people were dispersed throughout all corners of the world. During this time, the Jews always remained faithful to the country in which they lived.
    The Jewish people are grateful to all those merciful nations which have allowed them to observe Torah and the commandments undisturbed.
    From ancient times, the relations between the Jewish and Islamic peoples have always been those of peace and brotherhood, and friendship always reigned between them. The proof of this is the fact that for centuries, in all the Arab lands, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in honor and amidst mutual esteem.
    Jews throughout all generations yearned to grace the sacred soil of the Holy Land and to live there. However, their sole purpose was to fulfill the commandments dependent upon the land and to absorb Its holiness.
    Never, G-d forbid, did they have any nationalist or sovereign intent whatsoever which, as mentioned above, is forbidden to us. Indeed, also here in the Holy Land, our fathers lived in neighborly harmony with the Palestinian residents of the land, helping one another, to mutual benefit.
    Until about two hundred years ago, the vast majority of Jews observed the Torah and the commandments in entirety. Jewry’s leaders were Torah scholars, who directed the people according to the Torah. They were loyal citizens in the host nations where they dwelled and to the local laws. They prayed for the welfare of their respective governments. To our sorrow, at that time a small number of Jews slowly left their observance of Torah and commandments. Together with this, they began to deride the spiritual leadership of their people. This assimilation was the basis upon which, one hundred years ago, the ideology of Zionism was born. Its founders were assimilated Jews who had abandoned the Torah.
    Immediately at the founding of the Zionist movement, masses of Jews under the
    leadership of their Rabbis, launched a heavy battle against Zionism. Their attack was directed not only at the non-religious Zionist idea, but rather, primarily at its opposition to the Torah-ordained path that Jewry must follow while in exile. As such, the Zionists incited the nations of the world, demanding political sovereignty over the Holy Land while remaining oblivious to the resentment this would arouse In the Palestinian Arabs, the land’s veteran inhabitants. As stated, the leaders of Orthodox Jewry vehemently opposed the movement with all force.
    The Zionists refused to heed the voice of the Rabbis and Torah authority. They persisted in their ways until they succeeded in influencing the British government to issue the Balfour Declaration concerning the “establishment of a national home for the Jews in the land of Israel.” To our great sorrow,
    from that point on began the deterioration of the good relations between the Jews and the Arab inhabitants of the land. This occurred because the Arab people understood that the Zionists wished to seize rulership from them. In addition, the Arab people had suspicions as if the Jewish people wished to seize control of the Temple Mount and other similar sites. Matters worsened as a result.
    The Jewish leadership of that time saw it as proper to clarify before the Arab leaders that the Torah-true Jews had no desire whatsoever for sovereignty, and that our desire was to continue to live in peace with the Arabs, as we had always done. The leader of the G-d-fearing Jewish community at that time, Rabbi Yoseph
    Chaim Zonnenfeld. of blessed memory, organized a delegation in July of 24′ which visited
    King Hussein and his sons Faisal the King of Iraq and the Amir Abdullah In order to lucidly present to them the position of the G-d-fearing Jewish community.
    The Jewish delegation clarified unequivocally that Torah Jewry is totally opposed to the Zionist sovereignty over the Holy Land. It Is worth noting that the delegation was received with great honor. They were even assured that all Arab lands were completely open to Jews, however, on the condition that the Jews do not demand political
    rights. This condition also applied to the Holy Land. One of the members of the
    Jewish delegation, Professor
    Yisroel Yaakov De Haan, paid with his life for his participation.
    Torah Jewry protests at every opportunity against the Zionist rule over the Holy Land, and the Zionist rebellion against the neighboring nations. Torah Jewry has condemned the Zionist oppression of the Palestinians, the land’s veteran inhabitants who have been driven from their homes and properties. The Zionists’ barbaric and violent deeds are absolutely antithetical to the essence of the Jewish people.
    Torah Jewry has never ever recognized the Zionist state.
    Since the Zionists succeeding in establishing their state, Torah Jewry has continuously announced to the world that the Zionists do not represent the Jewish people, and that the name “Israel” that they use is a forgery.
    For as has been stated above, it is forbidden to us from the Torah to rebel against the nations, and all sovereignty by us is prohibited. Rather, we await the days when all the world will recognize the sovereignty of the Creator, and the words of the prophet Isaiah will yet be fulfilled: “And they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. No nation will lift its sword against any other, nor will they learn warfare anymore.”
    Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews have refrained to this day from taking any funds from the Zionist regime, whether for their educational institutions, synagogues or other benefits. Obviously, they do not participate in the Zionist elections, whether for the “Knesset” or for the municipality. We do not serve in their army, and we even avoid speaking in the Hebrew language that the Zionists Invented. (incidentally, this is not the holy and true Hebrew language in which the Bible is written.) All this is done because Torah Jewry does not recognize the Zionist regime, which Is against the Torah and against humanity.
    Lately, the question has once again arisen concerning the Temple Mount and sovereignty over it. Thus, we wish to state unequivocally: a) In our time, it is a severe Torah prohibition for any Jew to set foot on any part of the Temple Mount area. b) The Jewish people have no claim whatsoever to sovereignty over this holy site, which is under Islamic authority, nor over any other holy site. Rabbi Zonenfeld was once asked, “is it true, that the Rabbi prefers an non-Jewish government over all of the Holy Land”? Rabbi Zonenfeld replied, “if King Hussein would rule over Palestine, the holiness of the Holy Land would not be diminished to even to an Iota degree”. We yearningly await G-d’s great day, when He will return His Divine Presence to Zion, restoring the holy city to its former holiness and glory as in days of old, to be a light to the peoples and the nations.
    The Zionists have no right of any sovereignty over even one inch of the Holy Land. They do not represent the Jewish people in any way whatsoever. They have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people.
    Therefore, their words, declarations and actions are not in any way representative of the Jewish people. This is because the Zionists’ seizing of power over the Holy Land is antithetical to Jewish law, and also because the Zionists do not behave like Jews at all rather, they desecrate the sanctity of the land.
    We once again clarify that it is our desire to live in peace with our Arab and Palestinian neighbors, as we did before the Zionist revolution, and as Jews all over the world till today live, accepting the yoke of rulership of their host nation, with complete loyalty. Our sole desire is to serve our G-d and to fulfill His commandments with a perfect heart and to delight in the radiance of the sanctity of the Land.

  15. Is this true?

    1) What is “The People of Israel” ?

    The People of Israel have existed for thousands of years.

    They have their own particular, essential nature.

    The Torah is the source of their essential nature.

    Without Torah and Faith there is no People of Israel.

    Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the People of Israel.

    The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine Service.

    Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.

    2) What is Zionism?

    Zionism is a relatively new thing.

    It has only existed for a century.

    Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the People of Israel, and substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character – a materialistic worldly nation.

    Their misfortune is lack of what other nations possess, i.e. a state and army.

    Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.

    This is clearly spelled out in the circles of Zionist thought, and among the leaders of the Zionist State, that through changing the nature and character of the People of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set before the People of Israel “their salvation” — a state and an army.

    The People of Israel oppose the so-called “State of Israel” for four reasons:

    FIRST — The so-called “State of Israel” is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the People of Israel, as is explained above. The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic “salvation,” and the means of achieving this “salvation” is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator. This is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.

    SECOND — Because of all of this and other reasons the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

    THIRD — Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn’t want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.

    FOURTH — Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.

    The Zionists claim that they are the saviors of Israel, but this is refuted by twelve things:

    FIRST — If one contemplates the two thousand years of our exile, take any hundred years even the hardest, one will not find as much suffering, bloodshed, and catastrophes for the People of Israel in the period of the Zionists, and it is known that most of the suffering of this century was caused by the Zionists, as our Rabbis warned us would be the case.

    SECOND — It is openly stated in books written by the founders of Zionism that the means by which they planned to establish a state was by instigating anti-Semitism, and undermining the security of the Jews in all the lands of the world, until they would be forced to flee to their state. And thus they did – They intentionally infuriated the German people and fanned the flames of Nazi hatred, and they helped the Nazis, with trickery and deceit, to take whole Jewish communities off to the concentration camps, and the Zionists themselves admit this. (See the books Perfidy, Min Hameitzor, etc.). The Zionists continue to practice this strategy today. They incite anti-Semitism and then they present themselves as the “saviors”. Here are two replies given by Leaders of the Zionists during World War II, when they were asked for money to help ransom Jews from the Nazis. Greenbaum said “One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland.” (G-d forbid).
    Weitzman said, “The most important part of the Jewish people is already in the land (of Israel) and those who are left, are unimportant” (May we be spared).

    THIRD — We see that most of world Jewry lives in security and under good physical conditions, and have no desire to go live in the Zionist State. Whereas many people have left the Zionist State to live under better conditions in other lands.

    FOURTH — The Zionists make a great deal of propaganda to induce people to immigrate to their state. If their state is so beneficial why do they have to make so much propaganda.

    FIFTH — Because nobody wants the Zionists to “save” them. The only way they can get immigrants is by promising poor people material benefits, and even then very few people respond.

    SIXTH — The Zionist State is always threatened by the dangers of war. Whereas the rest of world Jewry live in peace and security, (Except in a few places where the Zionists have undermined their security and fanned the flames of hatred)

    SEVENTH — The Zionist State could not continue to exist without economic support from Jews living outside of the Zionist State.

    EIGHTH — The Zionist State is on the verge of economic collapse, and their money is nearly worthless.

    NINTH — The Zionist State persecute all Jews who are loyal to their Faith.

    TENTH — They start wars that endanger the Jewish People, for the sake of their own political interests.

    ELEVENTH – According to the Torah the path of safety is following ways of peace not starting fights with other nations, as the Zionists do.

    TWELFTH — Even if the Zionists could and would provide physical security it would be at the expense of our Faith and Our Torah the true People of Israel prefer death rather than life at such a cost.

    It is therefore clear that Zionism is not the savior of the people of Israel. Rather it is their greatest misfortune.

    Even though there are some observant Jews and rabbis, who approve of the Zionists, this is not the opinion of the Torah.

    The Zionists have enough control over the American news media to make sure that only their side of the story is heard.

    They make it look like all Jewry and their rabbis are Zionists, but this is false propaganda.

    The most important Rabbis and the majority of religious Jewry are opposed to Zionism, but their voice is not heard because of Zionist control of American news media.

    The Zionists terrorize everyone who speaks out against them.

    That part of the Jewish masses which is fooled by Zionist propaganda puts pressure on their Rabbis not to speak out.

    Between the terror and the pressure of the masses most of the Rabbis are prevented from speaking out.

    We bring three testimonies of the true opinion of the Torah.

    1) In the past two thousand years of the dangers and sufferings of exile not once did any of the Sages of Israel suggest that we make a state to protect ourselves. In every generation we had thousands of Sages well versed in the Torah.

    2) We have thousands of legal work of Torah law that have been handed down to us by the Sages of all generations. Not once do we see a word suggesting the establishment of a state. What we do find is warnings against it.

    3) The founders of Zionism were all atheists who denied the Torah. All the Torah Sages of that time opposed them and opposed Zionism, saying that Zionism would lead only to destruction.

    However the true People of Israel will never change their nature or give up their Faith because of the strength the Creator gives them.

    Zionism is a foreign growth in the body of the Jewish People. The end will be that it will rid itself of this foreign growth and remain pure.

    Zionism has overcome the Jewish people by force, fraud and terror, but none of this will help them because the truth will always remain with the help of the Creator.

    Zionism will not replace the Jewish People. The Jewish People will remain strong in their faith and the Zionist State will cease to exist.

    It is therefore, our demand that the State that calls itself ISRAEL, should cease to exist. Since this won’t be done, we demand that they cease to call themselves “Israel”, because their entire being is in complete opposition to the true People of Israel. The true People of Israel deny them permission to call themselves by that name. The Zionist leaders have no right to set themselves up as the representatives and spokesmen of the true People of ISRAEL.

    Since we know they will not fulfill this demand either we feel that at least we cry out the truth. The truth will always remain the truth. By no means or force can the truth be changed. Even if all the world would say that one and one is three, the truth will remain that one and one is two.

    Let the truth be declared. The use of the Name “ISRAEL” by that State is a complete falsification. The People of Israel have nothing to do with that State. Zionism and its State have no share and no part in the true ISRAEL.

  16. Is this true?
    Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

    Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

    There is a vile lie, which stalks the Jewish people across the globe. It is a lie so heinous, so far from the truth, that it can only gain popularity due to the complicity of powerful forces in the “mainstream” media and educational establishment.

    It is a lie which has brought many innocent people untold suffering and if unchecked has the potential to create extraordinary tragedy in the future.
    It is the lie that declares that Judaism and Zionism are identical.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins.

    Zionism has for over a century denied Sinaitic revelation. It believes that Jewish exile can be ended by military aggression.

    Zionism has spent the past century strategically dispossessing the Palestinian people. It has ignored their just claims and subjected them to persecution, torture and death.

    Torah Jews the world over are shocked and pained at this short-lived dogma of irreligiosity and cruelty. Thousands of Torah scholars and saints have condemned this movement from its inception. They knew that the pre-existing good relationship between Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land was bound to suffer as Zionism advanced.

    The so-called “State of Israel” stands rejected on religious grounds by the Torah. Its monstrous insensitivity to the laws of basic decency and fairness appall all men be they Jewish or not.

    We of Neturei Karta have been in the forefront of the battle against Zionism for over a century.

    Our presence here is to refute the base lie that the evil, which is Zionism, in some way represents the Jewish people.

    The reverse is true.

    We are saddened day in and day at the terrible toll of death emanating from the Holy Land. Not one of them would have occurred if Zionism had not unleashed its evil energies upon the world.

    As Jews we are called upon to live in peace and harmony with all men. We are exhorted to be law abiding and patriotic citizens in all lands.

    We condemn the current Zionist atrocities in the Holy Land. We yearn for peace based upon mutual respect. We are convinced that this proposed mutual respect is doomed to fail as long as the Israeli state exists. We welcome its abolition in a peaceful manner.

    May we be worthy of true redemption when all men will join in brotherhood in His worship.

  17. Is this true?

    Judaism is the faith of the Jewish people. It is rooted in the revelation at Sinai where the Torah was given by G-d to man. The doctrines and laws there revealed to the Jewish people are forever binding. Throughout the
    centuries Jewish scholars and saints have explained the Law. Those explanations are also part of our tradition.

    This definition of Judaism was universally accepted by the Jewish people until the dawn of the so called Enlightenment in Europe. In the wake of that mass abandonment of G-d, many Jews, as well as many Christians and Muslims around the world, came to reject their faiths.

    It was in the spirit of creating a man – made religion that movements such as Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist Judaism were born. These movements had in common that they rejected some, many or all the
    basics of Torah faith.

    Exile and Redemption
    One of the central tenets of Torah is that the Creator rewards and punishes mankind.

    Through many of the Prophetic books in the Old Testament the Jewish people were warned that a serious rebellion against the Will of G-d would result in the most severe of punishments. Unchecked it could lead to the ruin of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the entirety of the Jewish nation.

    And, it is here, my friends, in those Old Testament prophesies, that the quarrel between Judaism and Zionism begins.

    Eventually the horrors foretold by the Prophets came to pass. Jewry was exiled from the Land. The first exile, also known as the Babylonian captivity, lasted only 70 years. By a series of miraculous events the people were returned to the land. This second entry into the land led to the rebuilding of the Temple. The Second Temple stood from about 2500 years ago until about 1900 years ago, then it too was destroyed. This time the cause was once again the backsliding of the people who were, as
    always, held to a very demanding Divine standard.

    But the prophecies of doom were accompanied with promises of consolation. The exile would not be forever. There would be years of dispersion, many of them endured under persecution. Yet, there was the promise that the people would yet return to the Land. But this return was not to be under human control. It would be heralded by the advent of Elijah the Prophet and accompanied with many miracles. And, this time, the redemption would not just be for the Jewish people but, rather for all men. All nations would cease to practice war. All would rejoice together in the Creator’s care.

    There would be no want or physical deprivation. It would be a time of spiritual brotherhood, all men united in Divine service. Thus, at the burning of the Second Temple, the Jewish people were sent into an exile which extends till today. For two thousand years Jews have prayed for the
    end of their exile and the accompanying redemption of the entire world. They were taught by the Prophets and subsequent Sages that their exile was an expiation of their sins. This meant that the only reasonable and
    permissible path to end the exile were repentance and prayer.

    To suggest that one could use political or military means to escape the Creator’s decree was seen as heresy, as a denial of the Divine stewardship over sin and forgiveness. And, so, as the centuries rolled by the Jewish people prayed and awaited the miraculous events of redemption.

    Throughout these long years no Jew anywhere suggested – and this among a people that studied its sacred texts constantly and wrote about them voluminously – that exile could be ended by human means.

    The Holy Land was always venerated, of course, and small colonies, almost uniformly devoted to prayer, contemplation and study were established there.

    It was only towards the end of the nineteenth century, among Jews far estranged from their faith that the notion began to be put forth that exile was the result of Jewish weakness. Theodore Herzl and a handful of others, all ignorant or non observant of Torah began to set the process in motion that by the end of the next century would have produced untold suffering for Jews and Palestinians.

    Rabbinic Opposition
    These early Zionists were immediately opposed by the Rabbinic Leadership of that era.

    The opposition was based on four assumptions.

    1) The very concept of Zionism was a refutation of the traditional Torah belief in exile as punishment and redemption and as dependant on penitence and Divine intervention.

    2) The Zionists were overwhelmingly irreligious. There claim to represent the Jewish people before the world was preposterous. How can those who
    reject Judaism be Jewish leaders? Their natural instincts were to uproot Torah and its observance.

    3) Zionism was woefully unconcerned about non – Jews in general and
    the Palestinian people already living in the land. Its heavy – handed policies were sure to cause much pain and suffering and lead world Jewry into needless conflict with the nations of the world.

    4) Zionism would cause Jews to be less than loyal to the governments under whose auspices they lived in exile. This might weaken Jewish patriotism and exacerbate Jewish – Gentile conflicts.

    Throughout the world Zionists were a minority.

    Even those Jews who had lost touch with Torah tradition were able to see that Zionism was a recipe for disaster.

    Within the Zionist movement itself a tiny faction constantly criticized both the Labor and Revisionist mainstreams. This small group, associated with the Brit Shalom movement, advocated a bi – national democratic state and was willing to accept Jewish minority status therein. In the words of one of its foremost thinkers, Judah Magnes, Chancellor of Hebrew University, “If we cannot find ways of peace and understanding (with the
    indigenous population), if we can only establish ourselves upon the force of bayonets, then our whole enterprise is not worthwhile and it is better that the eternal people should remain patient and wait.”

    These were the words of a non – believer but of essential decency. His ideas and those of his small band of followers were cast aside by the Zionist mainstream.

    Of course, in the Torah view the very notion of Jewish sovereignty of any kind over the Holy Land is forbidden. We note that even those who desired some degree of Jewish return – saw this – provided they had some basic decency, as something that had to be worked out with the approval of the native Palestinian people.

    Zionist immigration poured into Palestine during the twenties and thirties. The British government tried to be all things to all men but their efforts failed. At times the Zionist conquest via immigration became an actual
    shooting conquest with acts of terror against Palestinians, British and other Jews becoming the order of the day.

    But, despite Zionist machinations, if not for the tragic fate of the Jews in the Second World War the state of Israel probably would never have come into existence.

    As stated before, after the Holocaust, the world took its sense of pity for the Jewish people and bestowed it on the Zionists.

    Little if any thought was given to the deep and just desire of Palestinians to be a sovereign people in their own land or to the anti – Zionist Jews living therein.

    It was as if a man having been chased from his home by a mob comes upon someone else’s else home and decides to chase out its inhabitants and take it over.

    Surely the suffering the man has endured at the hands of the mob is not enough for another family to be evicted from their centuries old place of residence.

    I have little doubt that if a Palestinian people, sovereign in its own land, would have been asked after the Holocaust, along with the other nations of the world, to take in Jewish refugees that they would have easily
    agreed. But they could not be expected to abandon, their homes and property and their very identity to make way for hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees whose goal was to dispossess them and rule over them.
    Throughout the twentieth century a large segment of Orthodox Jews has remained immune to Zionist temptation. Unfortunately, during this same period, some orthodox Jews actually embraced Zionism while others attempted to co – exist with it.

    Those who have maintained our faith as it was handed down to us over the centuries have fought Zionism in the Holy Land and throughout the world.

    These Jews, many of whose descendants live in Jerusalem to this day, have refused to recognize the Zionist state. They do not vote in its elections or serve in its army. They do not accept any financial support from the government for their schools, thus plunging their schools into a never ending fund raising crisis.

    In their view the state of Israel exists in violation of Torah basics. In its daily policies it wars against Torah practice. Its claim to represent the Jewish people is vile and ludicrous. By positing non – believers as Jewish
    leaders it desecrates G-d’s Great and Holy Name in public, a very grave sin in the eyes of the Torah.

    The pious Jews of whom Neturei Karta is only one of many are seasoned veterans in the anti – Zionist struggle. We, of all people know how hard it is to break through the media black out, especially in the United
    States.

    Yet, we must break through if there is to be any real peace in the Middle East. We have been informed by our Talmudic sages that any premature attempt to end exile will result in massive bloodshed.

    The bloodshed is here. Israel has caused more bloodshed than anyone could have possibly imagined.

    Decades before the state the Zionist desire to rule over the land led to riots, assassinations and endless death and suffering.

    To this day the death toll mounts. Both hardliners and soft liners have had their hopes dashed. They have both been behind the wheels of government. And both have failed utterly.

    Friends, there will be no peace in the Middle East until their is no state of Israel.

    The Torah cannot be violated. Our task in exile cannot be fulfilled by trying to end exile by human agitations. Nor can our hopes for redemption be realized in the Israeli state.

    Of course immediately part of the solution is, we’d like to see the West Bank and Gaza settlements dismantled. The people living there must leave as soon as is humanly possible.

    But, this is only one part of the solution. Yes, the immediate decision in keeping with common sense, is to begin a Palestinian state. But these solutions are only for the interim and only a part of the solution.

    The true Torah solution, the key to peace is the immediate return of Palestine to the Palestinians in its entirety including the Temple Mount and Jerusalem.

    This would, of course, include a full right of return for all Palestinian refuges That is what elementary justice demands. This is the path of the Torah and of common sense.

    The Jewish people have many mitzvos (commandments) to pursue in their exile. Fighting and killing Palestinian children are not among them.

    Of course, today, millions of Jews reside in Palestine. Whether some, all or none of them might stay under Palestinian rule is, of course, up to the land’s rightful rulers, the Palestinians.

    This will inevitably begin the process of true peace with justice and healing between the Palestinian people and the Jewish people.

    In the meantime, though, given that at present many Jews living in the Holy Land are victims of Zionist propaganda what path should be pursued?
    For our part the obligation remains steady. It is to educate the Jewish community about the doctrinal errors and practical evils of Zionism.

    It is to join our Palestinian cousins in protest against the evils of Zionism. It is to pursue peace with all men and all nations. It is to practice our faith. It is to worship the Creator with humility, with modesty and piety.
    But let us go a step further and examine what the impact of Jewish anti Zionism might be on the Islamic world. First, it is important both practically and morally that Palestinian and general Islamic ideology not confuse Zionism and Judaism and by so doing leave themselves vulnerable to the charge of anti – Semitism.

    Further, it could well prove beneficial to the Palestinian cause if they would publicize thier good relations with anti Zionist Jews thus undercutting the
    stereotype of them in the Zionist dominated media as bigots and baseless haters.

    This coalition of anti – Zionist Jews and Palestinians who see the inhumanity of Zionism might well become quite a moral force for good in the world.

    In any event, let us resolve to leave here this evening with our mutual moral compasses set right. Let us understand that Torah Jewry is in no way an antagonist of the Palestinian people in particular or of the Islamic
    world in general.

    The hour is late. The civilian death toll mounts daily. Innocents on all sides suffer.

    May it be the Creator’s Will that the state of Israel be peacefully dismantled speedily in our days, that Jew and Palestinian live yet in peace with each other around the world and in the Holy Land and that speedily in our days all mankind may merit the advent of Divine Redemption where G-d’s Kingdom will be accepted.

  18. Is this true?
    The correction of the historical record in the case of any falsification is beneficial, for, as is well known, the “seal of the Creator is truth.” In the case of Zionism it is not merely an academic error. It is one that has caused much death and destruction in the past and will only continue to do so in the future, G-d forbid, if it is left uncorrected. In fact, it is my hope and prayer that today’s talk will be the first step of a process which may yet lead to a just solution to the Middle East’s agony or, at least, a significant easing of its people’s suffering.

    Triumph of Falsity
    But first we must ask a simple question. Why has the lie, which equates Judaism and Zionism, triumphed? Why, has what is so demonstrably false, captured the citadels of Western public opinion? And, in the end, what can we do about it? History is invariably written by those who emerge victorious from its struggles. In the case of the Zionist/Palestinian struggle of the past century this factor immediately places the Israeli state, its propagandists and international apologists, in the ideological driver’s seat.

    Second, the suffering of the Jewish people in the Second World War in Europe created extraordinary sympathy among the peoples of the earth and it was this sincere and commendable sympathy that has been incessantly exploited by the Zionist propaganda machine since 1945.

    Last, Zionist propagandists are always given to bullying tactics and censorship. It is very helpful in this regard to read former Congressman Findley’s book, They Dared to Speak Out. It is the sorry record of the immense resources that the Zionist lobby invested in destroying the careers of politicians all across the United States who had voiced some qualms about this nation’s subservience to Israel.

    Of course, anti – Zionist Jews of all political and religious orientations have long experienced the lash of the Zionist movement. In 1924, a scholarly Dutch Jew, Dr. Jacob Israel de Hahn, who functioned as a secretary of Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld (1849 – 1932 ) Chief Rabbi of Palestine, (may their memories be blessed) was murdered as he returned from evening prayers outside Shaarui Zedek hospital in Jerusalem. His crime was that he had been involved in discussions with Arab leaders that offered an alternative to Zionist hegemony. His murderers were members of the Haganah, a Zionist, so – called “defense organization.” In fact, Dr. de Hahn may well be described as the first victim of Zionist violence
    in the Holy Land.

    Yet, outside of a limited circle of anti – Zionist Jews, this cowardly and cold blooded murder is completely unknown.

    Equally unknown to the general public was the ease with which Zionists turned on their fellow Jews, as in the sinking of Jewish refugee ships calculated to elicit world sympathy such as the S.S. Patria in 1940 and the S. S. Struma in 1941 which cost the lives of 276 innocent Jews in the case of the former and 769 in the case of the latter.

    More is known about pre – state terror campaigns against Arab and British innocents. Clearly, this was a movement that found human life cheap and public criticism intolerable.

    Fortunately, though, Zionism is missing the most potent weapon in any ideology’s arsenal. It doesn’t have the truth on its side.

    Thus, we find that, today, despite the power of the Zionist lobby and the subservience, until recently, of most politicians, media outlets and educational settings here in America, to its dictates, the historical blackout is coming to an end.

    More and more people are questioning the Zionist version of history. At the United Nations and throughout Europe the questions have already been raised and largely answered. The answers are a variety of criticisms of the Israeli state. Some of these center on Israel’s practices. Others point to its underlying philosophy.

  19. Is this true?
    Q – But don’t Jews deserve a homeland?
    A – No Torah faithful Jew in the 1900 years of our people’s exile believed that we should seek to reclaim the land by military means. Instead, they believed that at the end of days, when the Creator chooses to redeem all mankind then all peoples will join in the worship of Him. This will not require the subjugation or dispossession of peoples. It will be a time of universal brotherhood with its spiritual in the Holy Land. Until then the Jewish people have a particular task in exile.

    Q – And what might that be?
    A – To accept in faith their exile. And, by word and deed, quietly and unobtrusively, to act as moral and spiritual paragons. And, in general to attend to G-d’s service via Torah study, prayer and good deeds.

    Q – How do you view the Palestinian people?
    A – They are the victims of the Zionist movement’s moral blindness and obstinate refusal to take into account the existence of peoples other than themselves. The Palestinian people have a right to their homeland. And they have a right to financial restitution for property loss and damages inflicted upon them over the past decades.

    Q – What is the opinion on the peace process, Oslo accords and similar efforts?
    A – Any Jewish support for the suffering Palestinian people is a step in the right direction practically and evidence of a moral conscience which every Jew should have. However, we believe that all these plans, although they may be well intentioned, are doomed to failure. Jews are forbidden to exercise political sovereignty over the Hold Land. They are called upon to seek peace with all men. The Zionist enterprise is metaphysically doomed to moral and practical failure.

    Q – What should be the Jewish approach to the Islamic world?
    A – Jews are called upon to deal ethically and honestly with all men. This is our task as a “kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” Zionism has misled many Jews into acts of aggression against the Palestinian people. Therefore, it behooves all Jews, as best we can, to rectify this situation by seeking peace, reconciliation and dialogue when dealing with Palestinian people and all Islamic nations. This is one of the great spiritual tests confronting the Jewish people – to establish a moral relationship with their Islamic brethren.

    Q – Realistically speaking, does your program have any chance of implementation?
    A – First, the Creator runs the world and with Him all things are possible. Second, there is a tremendous sense of disillusionment and exhaustion among Jews world wide with the Israeli state and Zionism in general. Many realize that following Zionist principles leads to one dead end after another. They are longing for another solution. Our solution, which is simply the ancient tradition of the Torah, is appearing increasingly plausible to many and may, in the not too distant future, with the help of the Creator, carry the day until then we hope and pray that no more innocent blood be shed, be it Jewish or Arab. We yearn for the day when many will come to realize that the only real path to peace lies in the Jewish people returning to their true task in exile, the undivided service of G-d and devotion to morality, integrity and honesty.

  20. Is this true?
    Where the Torah tells about the creation of the first human being, the most prominent Jewish commentator, Rashi, explains that the earth from which Adam was formed was not taken from one spot but from various parts of the globe. Thus human dignity does not depend on the place of one’s birth nor is it limited to one region. The greatness or worth of a person is not measured by his or her outward appearance. Jews believe that Adam was created in G-d’s image and that he is the common ancestor of all mankind. At this stage in human history, there is no room for privileged people who can do with others as they please. Human life is sacred and human rights are not to be denied by those who would subvert them for “national security” or for any other reason. No one knows this better than the Jews, who have been second-class citizens so often and for so long. Zionists, however, may differ. This is understandable because Judaism and Zionism are by no means the same. Indeed they are incompatible and irreconcilable: If one is a good Jew, one cannot be a Zionist; if one is a Zionist, one cannot be a good Jew.

    The Treason of Zionism
    A conference such as this is long overdue, and I wish to thank those who made it possible to hold it. For over 60 years I have fought Zionism, as did my father before me, and I am therefore quite familiar with it. For those who have been in this fight for only the last ten or twenty years, what I have to say may be surprising or even shocking. Nevertheless these matters must be stated clearly and openly, because unless the disease of Zionism is diagnosed accurately, it cannot be cured. Too long have those opposed to Zionism engaged in daydreaming and wishful thinking. In order to recognize Zionism for what it is, one has to know about Judaism, about Zionism — the opposite and negation of Judaism, and about Jewish history. In the time allotted to me, I am not going to talk about the actions of the Zionists; they will be adequately dealt with by other speakers. As a Jew, I plan to discuss Zionism, which is rebellion against G-d and treason to the Jewish people.

    To begin with, a few definitions: Who is a Jew? A Jew is anyone who has a Jewish mother or who converted to Judaism in conformity with Halacha, Jewish religious law. This definition alone excludes racism. Judaism does not seek converts, but those who do convert are accepted on a basis of equality. Let us see how far this goes. Some of the most eminent and respected rabbis were converts to Judaism. Jewish parents throughout the world bless their children every Sabbath and holiday eve, and they have done it in the same way for millennia. If the children are girls, the blessing is, “May G-d let you be like Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah.” Not one of these matriarchs was born a Jewess; they were all converts to Judaism. If the children are boys, the blessing is, “May G-d let you be like Ephraim and Manasseh.” The mother of these two was an Egyptian woman who became Jewish and had married Joseph. Moses himself, the greatest Jew who ever lived, married a Midianite woman who became Jewish. Finally, the Tanach, the holy writings of the Jew, contains the book of Ruth. This woman was not only not Jewish by birth, but she came from the Moabites, traditional enemies of the Jewish people. This book describes Ruth’s conversion to Judaism and is read annually on the holiday commemorating the giving of the Torah, the “Law,” i.e. the Pentateuch. At its very end, the book of Ruth traces the ancestry of King David, the greatest king the Jews ever had, to Ruth, his great-grandmother.

    Apart from the Zionists, the only ones who consistently considered the Jews a race were the Nazis. And they only served to prove the stupidity and irrationality of racism. There was no way to prove racially whether a Mrs. Muller or a Mr. Meyer were Jews or Aryans. The only way to decide whether a person was Jewish was to trace the religious affiliation of the parents or grandparents. So much for the this racial nonsense.

    Racial pride has been the downfall of those Jews in the past who were blinded by their own narrow-minded chauvinism. This brings us to a second definition. Is there a Jewish people? If so, what is its mission? Let us make this completely clear: The Jewish nation was not born or reconstituted a generation ago by some Zionist politicians. The Jewish nation was born on Mount Sinai when the Jews by their response, “let us do and let us hear,” adopted the Torah given to them by G-d for all future generations. `This day you become a people,” though valid still today, was spoken thousands of years ago.

    According to Jewish tradition, there are seven Noahide laws which apply to all human beings. Then there are the Ten Commandments which form basic standard of morality and conduct for adherents of all monotheistic religions. In addition to these, there are 613 laws obligatory for Jews, and every Jew has to observe those which are applicable to him or her according to Halacha. It is the carrying out of these mitzvoth, “commandments,” which constitutes the essence of being Jewish, and therefore of the Jewish people and their covenant with G-d.

    In what way are the Jews a “chosen people”? Every Jewish man anywhere and at any time when called to the reading of the Torah says, “Who has chosen us from all the peoples and gave us His Torah.” This is the way in which the Jews are chosen. The Jewish people are chosen not for domination over others, not for conquest or warfare, but to serve G-d and thus to serve mankind. “And the hands are the hands of Esau,” has been traditionally interpreted to mean that while “the voice is Jacob’s,” the hands- – symbolizing violence – are Esau’s. Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behavior and spiritual purity. Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a “modern” statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people.

    Hypocrisy and Perversion
    One means of misleading many Jews and all too many non-Jews is the Zionist misuse of names and symbols sacred in Judaism. They use the holy name Israel for their Zionist state. They have named their land acquisition fund with a term that traditionally implies the reward for piety, good deeds, and charitable work. They have adopted as a state symbol the menorah (candlebrum). What hypocrisy, what perversion it is to have the Israeli army fight under an emblem, the meaning of which is explained in the Tenach (on the occasion of a previous return to the Holy Land) as, “not with armed force and not with power, but in My spirit says the Lord of Hosts.”

    The infamous founder of political Zionism, may his name be cursed, who only discovered his own Jewishness because of anti-Semitism displayed at the Dreyfus trial in France, proposed various solutions to what he called the “Jewish problem.” At one point he proposed to resettle the Jews in Uganda. At another he proposed to convert them to Catholicism. He finally hit on the idea of a Judenstaat, an exclusive Jewish state. Thus from its very beginning Zionism was a result of Anti-Semitism and indeed is completely compatible with it, because Zionists and anti-Semites had (and have) a common goal: To bring all Jews from their places of domicile to the Zionist state, thus uprooting Jewish communities that had existed for hundreds and even thousands of years. Loyalty to the Zionist state was substituted for loyalty to G-d, and the state was made into the modern “golden calf”. Belief in the Torah and fulfillment of religious obligations in Zionist eyes became a private matter and not a duty for every Jew or for the Jewish people. The Zionists made divine law subject to party or parliamentary votes, and they set their own standards of conduct and ethics.

    Neither the founder of political Zionism nor any of the prime ministers of the Zionist state believed in the divine origin of the Torah nor even in the existence of G-d. All prime ministers were members of a party that opposed religion in principle and that considered the Bible a document of ancient folklore, devoid of any religious meaning. And yet these same Zionists base their claim to the Holy Land on this same Bible, the divine origin of which they deny. At the same time they conveniently forget the Jewish holiday prayer “and for our sins have we been exiled from our land,” and ignore the fact that the present exile of the Jewish people is divinely decreed and that the Jewish people are neither commanded nor permitted to conquer or rule the Holy Land before the coming of the Messiah. The Jewish people do, of course, recognize special spiritual ties to that land they call it Eretz Yisrael. Every morning, afternoon, and evening, and night they mention it and Zion and Jerusalem in their prayers, and indeed a Jew does not sit down to a meal without doing likewise. To the Jew, the very soil of the Holy Land is different from that of any other spot on this globe, and wherever he is he turns his face toward Jerusalem during prayers. To live in the Holy Land or even to be buried there was always considered to be of high merit.

    This love of the land and the Jewish longing for a return to it and for the coming of the Messiah have been exploited innumerable times during the past 2,000 years. Zionism has had many precursors and each has been a curse for the Jews. Individuals who proclaimed themselves the Messiah and messianic movements have sprung up from time to time, from the Roman era through the Middle Ages and down to the modern Zionists. Many of these pseudo-Messiahs posed as rabbis or as national leaders, though some of them eventually professed other faiths; many temporarily – some for longer periods – succeeded in misleading Jews, rabbis, and entire Jewish communities. All were in due course exposed and recognized as frauds, and those who had set their hope on them found only disappointment and all too often disaster.

    In the early stages of the development of modern Zionism, the Mizrachi was founded, an organization of so-called religious Zionists who tried to combine their faith with political Zionism. This led to constant conflict between the dictates of divine law and the demands of Jewish nationalism. Most of the time, the Mizrachi was outvoted at Zionist congresses and served only to give the Zionist movement a false religious aura. Whenever expediency called for it, these “religious” Zionist fellow-travelers have been used by the Zionist government to underpin national claims with “religious” authority. The National Religious Party in the Zionist state has been well rewarded for giving its stamp of approval to nationalistic measures and enactments, whether these rewards were of financial nature or in the form of cabinet or other government posts. The chauvinism of these religious Zionists frequently exceeded that of other Zionists, and it was always couched in religious terms – a prime example of the abuse of religion. The fraudulence of these “religious” Zionists was demonstrated during the past year when it was revealed that two of their world leaders had committed million-dollar thefts.

    A Jewish world organization was founded in 1912 on the German-Polish border with the specific purpose of fighting Zionism. This organization, Agudath Israel, “Union of Israel,” was to represent the true Jewish people in the world and to unmask the unwarranted and unjust claims of the Zionists. Rabbis everywhere joined Agudath Israel, as did masses of observant Jews. Anti-Zionist congresses were convened in Vienna and in Marienbad. In countries such as Poland, Agudists were members of parliament. Under Agudah leadership more than 50 years ago, Jews in the Holy Land opposed to Zionism obtained permission from Britain, the mandatory power in Palestine, to declare in writing that they did not wish to be represented by the Zionists or any of their groups, particularly not by the Zionist quasi-governmental organizations such as the Va’ad Leumi, “National Council.”

    Haganah Assassination
    Shortly thereafter, Jacob de Haan, a former distinguished Dutch diplomat who was then leader of Agudath Israel in Palestine, initiated talks with Arab leaders with a view toward the eventual establishments of a state there in which Jews and Arabs would have equal rights. In this way he hoped to forestall the creation of a Zionist state. Despite threats to his life, de Haan, fully aware of the ultimate dangers of a Zionist state, continued his talks and negotiations. On the eve of his departure in 1924 for Britain to meet with authorities there, he was assassinated by the Haganah, the Zionist paramilitary force, in the center of Jerusalem as he came from evening prayers. More than a half a century ago, this devout and visionary Jew gave his life in a fight that he considered paramount, at a time when the world at large was still blind and deaf to the difficulties and problems that a future Zionist state would entail.

    Zionist Terrorism
    As a result of such terrorism and increasing Zionist pressure, Agudath Israel gradually began to weaken and to compromise. During the Nazi period, it entered indo deals and arrangements with the Zionists, despite the fact that its fundamental aim had been to combat Zionism. After the Zionist state was established, Agudath Israel broke off with its past, participated in the Zionist government on the cabinet level and elected Agudists to the Zionist parliament. Still professing a nominal anti-Zionism, Agudath Israel established a network of “independent” schools in the Holy Land, but today the overwhelming part of the budget of these schools comes from the Zionist government.

    In view of these developments, those Jews who wanted to continue the fight against Zionism without any compromise left Agudath Israel and constituted themselves as the Neturei Karta, an Aramaic phrase meaning “Guardians of the City,” i.e. the city of Jerusalem. The Neturei Karta in turn became a worldwide movement, known in some places as “Friends of Jerusalem.”

    The greatest leader of the Neturei Karta was Rabbi Amram Blau, an inspired and dedicated leader whose compassion equaled his courage. He could not keep silent in the face of injustice, immorality, or hypocrisy. He was beloved by Jews and respected by Christians and Muslims. Born in Jerusalem, he never left the Holy Land during his entire life. In his writings he stressed many times that Jews and Arabs had lived in harmony until the advent of political Zionism. Rabbi Blau was imprisoned in Jerusalem, not by the Ottoman authorities, not by the British, and not by the Arabs, but by the Zionists. What was his crime? He defended with vigor and honesty, without regard for his own safety, the holy character of Jerusalem against the “innovations” and encroachments of the Zionists. He fought for the sanctity of the Sabbath and actively opposed the inroads of indecency and immorality made under the Zionist regime.

    Unceasingly Rabbi Blau denounced the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the Messiah as an act of infamy and blasphemy. Under his leadership, the Neturei Karta declared year after year that they did not recognize the legitimacy of the Zionist state or the validity of its laws.

    During the first period of fighting between the Zionist state and the Arabs, the rabbis of the Neturei Karta went toward the combat lines, carrying a white flag, and stated that they wanted no part in this war and that they were absolutely opposed to the creation of a Zionist state. In his last proclamation, Rabbi Blau deplored the actions of the Zionists against the Muslim and Christian Palestinians and the grievous harm done by the Zionists to the Jewish people in endeavoring to change them from “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation” to a modern state, devoid of spiritual foundation, based on chauvinism, built on conquest, and relying on military prowess. “The number of your cities constitute your gods,” the prophet Jeremiah had thundered to the chauvinist and idolatrous Jewish government of this day. Like it, the Zionists are now establishing a new status quo and expanding their position by founding new settlements in he territories occupied since 1967.

    Rabbi Blau in his last statement severely condemned the UN for recognizing and accepting as a member the Zionist state, thus giving the Zionists unprecedented prestige and power. It is high time that the anti-Zionist nations listen to him, heed his plea, and undo this great wrong and correct this fatal error. It is well known that no action was taken concerning the expulsion of the Zionist state because of the fear that financial support for the UN would be withdrawn. Let those states, opposed to Zionism, who have become affluent during the past generation, show that they mean what they say by offering to replace any financial loss the UN may suffer as a consequence, and let the member states vote their conscience without fear and regardless of any intimidation.

    There has been times before in Jewish history, as related in the Bible, when the masses were misled and only a minority of Jews clung to the true mission of the Jewish people. One of the first such of the occasions was the worship of the golden calf; today we unfortunately see a repetition of this, with the Zionist state now being the object of worship. Until the appearance and growing influence of political Zionism, Jewish leaders were chosen on the basis of their piety, decency, learning, and their love of justice and mercy. Today only too often so-called Jewish leaders, completely unqualified under Jewish law and traditional concepts, make pronouncements and decisions in the name and on behalf of the Jewish people. This is particularly true in the USA where there is the largest Jewish community in our time. I can never forget the remark of a woman in Oklahoma: “Isn’t today’s Judaism wonderful! All you have to do is give money.”

    Even at his death Rabbi Blau refuted the Zionists who had often claimed that the Neturei Karta was nothing but an insignificant sect of a few hundred souls. Yet when Rabbi Blau died in Jerusalem on a Friday morning two years ago, a few hours later no fewer than 22,000 men attended his funeral.

    At all times in the past, the misleaders of the Jews have sooner or later fallen by the wayside, and only those who upheld the validity of the Torah and the Talmud (the written and oral law) and of Halachah, and who resisted the demagogues, prevailed. The Neturei Karta follow in this tradition. They continue as a living rebuke to Zionism and speak in our time for the true Jewish people, those who have not been misled by Zionism.

    During the Roman conquest of the Holy Land, there were Jews who on the basis of nationalism and racial pride were sure that they could not lose a war. They, like the Zionists of our day, were opposed to any compromise or settlement; there were determined to fight to the end. At that time, however almost 2,000 years ago, the fore most rabbi, Rabbi Yochanan ben Sakkai, chose a different way. The military adventurers prevented him from leaving beleaguered Jerusalem to negotiate with the Romans, so the rabbi had himself carried out in a coffin by his disciples to the Roman headquarters. He said to the Romans that the Jews need neither an army nor weapons and asked for permission to establish a yeshiva, a Jewish religious school, at Yavneh. It was this religious school, and not the militarists or generals of the time, that helped to perpetuate Judaism and the identity of the Jewish people.

    It must be stated explicitly that while not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews. The motives of some of these non-Jewish Zionists, e.g. Lord Balfour and General Smuts, are at least open to question. From the beginning of the Zionist movement, some of the most articulate and fervent Zionists have been Christian clergymen, especially “fundamentalists,” who hail Zionism as an important “religious” movement and welcome it as a fulfillment of prophecy. They also, and significantly, serve the cause of Zionism.

    One of the basic aims of Zionism is aliyah, the immigration to the Zionist state of Jews from all countries. Nevertheless, during the past few years hundreds of thousands of Israelis have outgathered themselves from the Zionist paradise, and American Jews have “voted with their feet” and have chosen not to be ingathered. These Jews recognize that the Zionist state is in fact nothing but a giant ghetto.

    Instead of being able to render assistance to Jewish communities in other countries, American Jews have been mobilized to concentrate on helping the Zionist state, making the USA the real and major source of Zionist power and influence. The Zionists, true to the nature of their movement, rely on technical superiority and on a forbidding military deterrent – provided largely by the USA – for their security.

    Nothing could be further from the true ideals of the Jewish people. The Jewish people were chosen in the first place “for you are the leas of all nations.” As the Psalm says, “they rely on vehicles and horsepower, but we invoke the name of the Eternal, our G-d.”

    One most vital point deserves mention. A former president of the World Zionist Organization has stated explicitly that a Zionist owes unqualified loyalty to the Zionist state and that, in the case of a conflict, the first loyalty of a Zionist must be to the Zionist state. According to Jewish law, however, a Jew owes allegiance and loyalty to the country of which he is a citizen, and, of course, no faithful Jews owes any loyalty or allegiance to the Zionist state which has been condemned by the foremost rabbis of our age.

    It is not my purpose to detail how Zionism should be dealt with. Let me state, however, that isolated or spontaneous acts against individuals or the mere adoption of resolutions in the UN or elsewhere are not effective means of bringing an end to Zionism. Let me state also that the battle against Zionism must be waged first, not on the shores of the Mediterranean, but in Zionism’s most powerful bastion the USA.

    As an American citizen, I deplore that our government and our politicians have adopted an attitude that is in complete contradiction to the advice of the father of our country George Washington. Instead of shying away from foreign entanglements and permanent alliances with foreign powers, the establishment in Washington has embraced Zionism so wholeheartedly that in the eyes any criticism of the Zionist state and any opposition to political Zionism in the UN by any nation has become a punishable offense. And the American media do not dare to speak out against such an absurdity.

    Unfortunately, thus far, each year sees still further gains in influence by American Zionists. This fact has made possible events and developments that were unthinkable even ten years ago. It takes a lot of courage to be opposed to Zionism in the USA today. It also took a lot of courage during the Second World War to be anti-Fascist in Italy or anti-Nazi in Germany. In the long run Zionism is nothing but a passing aberration in the long history of the Jewish people and of the world.

    Let us take faith and hope in the certainty that eventually prejudice, hatred, and injustice will disappear, and that the prophecy will come true that all nations of the world will participate in the pilgrimage to Jerusalem, “For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

  21. Is this true?
    Where the Torah tells about the creation of the first human being, the most prominent Jewish commentator, Rashi, explains that the earth from which Adam was formed was not taken from one spot but from various parts of the globe. Thus human dignity does not depend on the place of one’s birth nor is it limited to one region.

    The greatness or worth of a person is not measured by his or her outward appearance. Jews believe that Adam was created in G-d’s image and that he is the common ancestor of all mankind. At this stage in human history, there is no room for privileged people who can do with others as they please. Human life is sacred and human rights are not to be denied by those who would subvert them for “national security” or for any other reason. No one knows this better than the Jews, who have been second-class citizens so often and for so long. Some Zionists, however, may differ. This is understandable because Judaism and Zionism are by no means the same. Indeed they are incompatible and irreconcilable: If one is a good Jew, one cannot be a Zionist; if one is a Zionist, one cannot be a good Jew.

    For those who have been in this fight for only the last ten or twenty years, which may be surprising or even shocking. Nevertheless these matters must be stated clearly and openly, because unless the disease of Zionism is diagnosed accurately, it cannot be cured. Too long have those opposed to Zionism engaged in daydreaming and wishful thinking. In order to recognize Zionism for what it is, one has to know about Judaism, about Zionism — the opposite and negation of Judaism, and about Jewish history. In the time allotted to me, I am not going to talk about the actions of the Zionists; they will be adequately dealt with by others. As a Jew, I plan to discuss Zionism, which is rebellion against G-d and treason to the Jewish people.

    To begin with, a few definitions: Who is a Jew? A Jew is anyone who has a Jewish mother or who converted to Judaism in conformity with Halacha, Jewish religious law. This definition alone excludes racism. Judaism does not seek converts, but those who do convert are accepted on a basis of equality. Let us see how far this goes. Some of the most eminent and respected rabbis were converts to Judaism. Jewish parents throughout the world bless their children every Sabbath and holiday eve, and they have done it in the same way for millennia. If the children are girls, the blessing is, “May G-d let you be like Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah.” Not one of these matriarchs was born a Jewess; they were all converts to Judaism. If the children are boys, the blessing is, “May G-d let you be like Ephraim and Menashe.” The mother of these two was an Egyptian woman who became Jewish and had married Joseph. Moses himself, the greatest Jew who ever lived, married a Midianite woman who became Jewish. Finally, the Tenach, the holy writings of the Jew, contains the book of Ruth. This woman was not only not Jewish by birth, but she came from the Moabites, traditional enemies of the Jewish people. This book describes Ruth’s conversion to Judaism and is read annually on the holiday commemorating the giving of the Torah, the “Law,” i.e. the Pentateuch. At its very end, the book of Ruth traces the ancestry of King David, the greatest king the Jews ever had, to Ruth, his great-grandmother.

    Apart from the Zionists, the only ones who consistently considered the Jews a race were the Nazis. And they only served to prove the stupidity and irrationality of racism. There was no way to prove racially whether a Mrs. Muller or a Mr. Meyer were Jews or Aryans (the Nazi term for non-Jewish Germans. The only way to decide whether a person was Jewish was to trace the religious affiliation of the parents or grandparents. So much for the this racial nonsense.

    Racial pride has been the downfall of those Jews in the past who were blinded by their own narrow-minded chauvinism. This brings us to a second definition. Is there a Jewish people? If so, what is its mission? Let us make this completely clear: The Jewish nation was not born or reconstituted a generation ago by some Zionist politicians. The Jewish nation was born on Mount Sinai when the Jews by their response, “let us do and let us hear,” adopted the Torah given to them by G-d for all future generations. `This day you become a people,” though valid still today, was spoken thousands of years ago.

    According to Jewish tradition, there are seven Noachide laws which apply to all human beings. Then there are the Ten Commandments which form basic standard of morality and conduct for adherents of all monotheistic religions. In addition to these, there are 613 laws obligatory for Jews, and every Jew has to observe those which are applicable to him or her according to Halacha. It is the carrying out of these mitzvoth, “commandments,” which constitutes the essence of being Jewish, and therefore of the Jewish people and their covenant with G-d.

    In what way are the Jews a “chosen people”? Every Jewish man anywhere and at any time when called to the reading of the Torah says, “Who has chosen us from all the peoples and gave us His Torah.” This is the way in which the Jews are chosen. The Jewish people are chosen not for domination over others, not for conquest or warfare, but to serve G-d and thus to serve mankind. “And the hands are the hands of Esau,” has been traditionally interpreted to mean that while “the voice is Jacob’s,” the hands- – symbolizing violence – are Esau’s. Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behavior and spiritual purity. Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a “modern” statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people.

    One means of misleading many Jews and all too many non-Jews is the Zionist misuse of names and symbols sacred in Judaism. They use the holy name Israel for their Zionist state. They have named their land acquisition fund with a term that traditionally implies the reward for piety, good deeds, and charitable work. They have adopted as a state symbol the menorah (candlebrum). What hypocrisy, what perversion it is to have the Israeli army fight under an emblem, the meaning of which is explained in the Tenach (on the occasion of a previous return to the Holy Land) as, “not with armed force and not with power, but in My spirit says the Lord of Hosts.”

    The infamous founder of political Zionism, may his name be cursed, who only discovered his own Jewishness because of anti-Semitism displayed at the Dreyfus trial in France, proposed various solutions to what he called the “Jewish problem.” At one point he proposed to resettle the Jews in Uganda. At another he proposed to convert them to Catholicism. He finally hit on the idea of a Judenstaat, an exclusive Jewish state. Thus from its very beginning Zionism was a result of Anti-Semitism and indeed is completely compatible with it, because Zionists and anti-Semites had (and have) a common goal: To bring all Jews from their places of domicile to the Zionist state, thus uprooting Jewish communities that had existed for hundreds and even thousands of years. Loyalty to the Zionist state was substituted for loyalty to G-d, and the state was made into the modern “golden calf”. Belief in the Torah and fulfillment of religious obligations in Zionist eyes became a private matter and not a duty for every Jew or for the Jewish people. The Zionists made divine law subject to party or parliamentary votes, and they set their own standards of conduct and ethics.

    Neither the founder of political Zionism nor any of the prime ministers of the Zionist state believed in the divine origin of the Torah nor even in the existence of G-d. All prime ministers were members of a party that opposed religion in principle and that considered the Bible a document of ancient folklore, devoid of any religious meaning. And yet these same Zionists base their claim to the Holy Land on this same Bible, the divine origin of which they deny. At the same time they conveniently forget the Jewish holiday prayer “and for our sins have we been exiled from our land,” and ignore the fact that the present exile of the Jewish people is divinely decreed and that the Jewish people are neither commanded nor permitted to conquer or rule the Holy Land before the coming of the Messiah. The Jewish people do, of course, recognize special spiritual ties to that land they call it Eretz Yisrael. Every morning, afternoon, and evening, and night they mention it and Zion and Jerusalem in their prayers, and indeed a Jew does not sit down to a meal without doing likewise. To the Jew, the very soil of the Holy Land is different from that of any other spot on this globe, and wherever he is he turns his face toward Jerusalem during prayers. To live in the Holy Land or even to be buried there was always considered to be of high merit.

    This love of the land and the Jewish longing for a return to it and for the coming of the Messiah have been exploited innumerable times during the past 2,000 years. Zionism has had many precursors and each has been a curse for the Jews. Individuals who proclaimed themselves the Messiah and messianic movements have sprung up from time to time, from the Roman era through the Middle Ages and down to the modern Zionists. Many of these pseudo-Messiahs posed as rabbis or as national leaders, though some of them eventually professed other faiths; many temporarily – some for longer periods – succeeded in misleading Jews, rabbis, and entire Jewish communities. All were in due course exposed and recognized as frauds, and those who had set their hope on them found only disappointment and all too often disaster.

    In the early stages of the development of modern Zionism, the Mizrachi was founded, an organization of so-called religious Zionists who tried to combine their faith with political Zionism. This led to constant conflict between the dictates of divine law and the demands of Jewish nationalism. Most of the time, the Mizrachi was outvoted at Zionist congresses and served only to give the Zionist movement a false religious aura. Whenever expediency called for it, these “religious” Zionist fellow-travelers have been used by the Zionist government to underpin national claims with “religious” authority. The National Religious Party in the Zionist state has been well rewarded for giving its stamp of approval to nationalistic measures and enactments, whether these rewards were of financial nature or in the form of cabinet or other government posts. The chauvinism of these religious Zionists frequently exceeded that of other Zionists, and it was always couched in religious terms – a prime example of the abuse of religion. The fraudulence of these “religious” Zionists was demonstrated during the past year when it was revealed that two of their world leaders had committed million-dollar thefts.

    A Jewish world organization was founded in 1912 on the German-Polish border with the specific purpose of fighting Zionism. This organization, Agudath Israel, “Union of Israel,” was to represent the true Jewish people in the world and to unmask the unwarranted and unjust claims of the Zionists. Rabbis everywhere joined Agudath Israel, as did masses of observant Jews. Anti-Zionist congresses were convened in Vienna and in Marienbad. In countries such as Poland, Agudists were members of parliament. Under Agudah leadership more than 50 years ago, Jews in the Holy Land opposed to Zionism obtained permission from Britain, the mandatory power in Palestine, to declare in writing that they did not wish to be represented by the Zionists or any of their groups, particularly not by the Zionist quasi-governmental organizations such as the Va’ad Leumi, “National Council.”

    Shortly thereafter, Jacob de Haan, a former distinguished Dutch diplomat who was then leader of Agudath Israel in Palestine, initiated talks with Arab leaders with a view toward the eventual establishments of a state there in which Jews and Arabs would have equal rights. In this way he hoped to forestall the creation of a Zionist state. Despite threats to his life, de Haan, fully aware of the ultimate dangers of a Zionist state, continued his talks and negotiations. On the eve of his departure in 1924 for Britain to meet with authorities there, he was assassinated by the Haganah, the Zionist paramilitary force, in the center of Jerusalem as he came from evening prayers. More than a half a century ago, this devout and visionary Jew gave his life in a fight that he considered paramount, at a time when the world at large was still blind and deaf to the difficulties and problems that a future Zionist state would entail.

    As a result of such terrorism and increasing Zionist pressure, Agudath Israel gradually began to weaken and to compromise. During the Nazi period, it entered indo deals and arrangements with the Zionists, despite the fact that its fundamental aim had been to combat Zionism. After the Zionist state was established, Agudath Israel broke off with its past, participated in the Zionist government on the cabinet level and elected Agudists to the Zionist parliament. Still professing a nominal anti-Zionism, Agudath Israel established a network of “independent” schools in the Holy Land, but today the overwhelming part of the budget of these schools comes from the Zionist government.

    In view of these developments, those Jews who wanted to continue the fight against Zionism without any compromise left Agudath Israel and constituted themselves as the Neturei Karta, an Aramaic phrase meaning “Guardians of the City,” i.e. the city of Jerusalem. The Neturei Karta in turn became a worldwide movement, known in some places as “Friends of Jerusalem.”

    The greatest leader of the Neturei Karta was Rabbi Amram Blau, an inspired and dedicated leader whose compassion equaled his courage. He could not keep silent in the face of injustice, immorality, or hypocrisy. He was beloved by Jews and respected by Christians and Muslims. Born in Jerusalem, he never left the Holy Land during his entire life. In his writings he stressed many times that Jews and Arabs had lived in harmony until the advent of political Zionism. Rabbi Blau was imprisoned in Jerusalem, not by the Ottoman authorities, not by the British, and not by the Arabs, but by the Zionists. What was his crime? He defended with vigor and honesty, without regard for his own safety, the holy character of Jerusalem against the “innovations” and encroachments of the Zionists. He fought for the sanctity of the Sabbath and actively opposed the inroads of indecency and immorality made under the Zionist regime. Unceasingly he denounced the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the Messiah as an acct of infamy and blasphemy. Under his leadership, the Neturei Karta declared year after year that they did not recognize the legitimacy of the Zionist state or the validity of its laws.

    During the first period of fighting between the Zionist state and the Arabs, the rabbis of the Neturei Karta went toward the combat lines, carrying a white flag, and stated that they wanted no part in this war and that they were absolutely opposed to the creation of a Zionist state. In his last proclamation, Rabbi Blau deplored the actions of the Zionists against the Muslim and Christian Palestinians and the grievous harm done by the Zionists to the Jewish people in endeavoring to change them from “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation” to a modern state, devoid of spiritual foundation, based on chauvinism, built on conquest, and relying on military prowess. “The number of your cities constitute your gods,” the prophet Jeremiah had thundered to the chauvinist and idolatrous Jewish government of this day. Like it, the Zionists are now establishing a new status quo and expanding their position by founding new settlements in he territories occupied since 1967.

    Rabbi Blau in his last statement severely condemned the UN for recognizing and accepting as a member the Zionist state, thus giving the Zionists unprecedented prestige and power. It is high time that the anti-Zionist nations listen to him, heed his plea, and undo this great wrong and correct this fatal error. It is well known that no action was taken concerning the expulsion of the Zionist state because of the fear that financial support for the UN would be withdrawn. Let those states, opposed to Zionism, who have become affluent during the past generation, show that they mean what they say by offering to replace any financial loss the UN may suffer as a consequence, and let the member states vote their conscience without fear and regardless of any intimidation.

    There has been times before in Jewish history, as related in the Bible, when the masses were misled and only a minority of Jews clung to the true mission of the Jewish people. One of the first such of the occasions was the worship of the golden calf; today we unfortunately see a repetition of this, with the Zionist state now being the object of worship. Until the appearance and growing influence of political Zionism, Jewish leaders were chosen on the basis of their piety, decency, learning, and their love of justice and mercy. Today only too often so-called Jewish leaders, completely unqualified under Jewish law and traditional concepts, make pronouncements and decisions in the name and on behalf of the Jewish people. This is particularly true in the USA where there is the largest Jewish community in our time. I can never forget the remark of a woman in Oklahoma: “Isn’t today’s Judaism wonderful! All you have to do is give money.”

    Even at his death Rabbi Blau refuted the Zionists who had often claimed that the Neturei Karta was nothing but an insignificant sect of a few hundred souls. Yet when Rabbi Blau died in Jerusalem on a Friday morning two years ago, a few hours later no fewer than 22,000 men attended his funeral.

    At all times in the past, the misleaders of the Jews have sooner or later fallen by the wayside, and only those who upheld the validity of the Torah and the Talmud (the written and oral law) and of Halachah, and who resisted the demagogues, prevailed. The Neturei Karta follow in this tradition. They continue as a living rebuke to Zionism and speak in our time for the true Jewish people, those who have not been misled by Zionism.

    During the Roman conquest of the Holy Land, there were Jews who on the basis of nationalism and racial pride were sure that they could not lose a war. They, like the Zionists of our day, were opposed to any compromise or settlement; there were determined to fight to the end. At that time, however almost 2,000 years ago, the fore most rabbi, Rabbi Yochanan ben Sakkai, chose a different way. The military adventurers prevented him from leaving beleaguered Jerusalem to negotiate with the Romans, so the rabbi had himself carried out in a coffin by his disciples to the Roman headquarters. He said to the Romans that the Jews need neither an army nor weapons and asked for permission to establish a yeshiva, a Jewish religious school, at Yavneh. It was this religious school, and not the militarists or generals of the time, that helped to perpetuate Judaism and the identity of the Jewish people.

    It must be stated explicitly that while not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews. The motives of some of these non-Jewish Zionists, e.g. Lord Balfour and General Smuts, are at least open to question. From the beginning of the Zionist movement, some of the most articulate and fervent Zionists have been Christian clergymen, especially “fundamentalists,” who hail Zionism as an important “religious” movement and welcome it as a fulfillment of prophecy. They also, and significantly, serve the cause of Zionism.

    One of the basic aims of Zionism is aliyah, the immigration to the Zionist state of Jews from all countries. Nevertheless, during the past few years hundreds of thousands of Israelis have outgathered themselves from the Zionist paradise, and American Jews have “voted with their feet” and have chosen not to be ingathered. These Jews recognize that the Zionist state is in fact nothing but a giant ghetto.

    Instead of being able to render assistance to Jewish communities in other countries, American Jews have been mobilized to concentrate on helping the Zionist state, making the USA the real and major source of Zionist power and influence. The Zionists, true to the nature of their movement, rely on technical superiority and on a forbidding military deterrent – provided largely by the USA – for their security.

    Nothing could be farther from the true ideals of the Jewish people. The Jewish people were chosen in the first place “for you are the leas of all nations.” As the Psalm says, “they rely on vehicles and horsepower, but we invoke the name of the Eternal, our G-d.”

    One most vital point deserves mention. A former president of the World Zionist Organization has stated explicitly that a Zionist owes unqualified loyalty to the Zionist state and that, in the case of a conflict, the first loyalty of a Zionist must be to the Zionist state. According to Jewish law, however, a Jew owes allegiance and loyalty to the country of which he is a citizen, and, of course, no faithful Jews owes any loyalty or allegiance to the Zionist state which has been condemned by the foremost rabbis of our age.

    It is not my purpose to detail how Zionism should be dealt with. Let me state, however, that isolated or spontaneous acts against individuals or the mere adoption of resolutions in the UN or elsewhere are not effective means of bringing an end to Zionism. Let me state also that the battle against Zionism must be waged first, not on the shores of the Mediterranean, but in Zionism’s most powerful bastion — the USA>

    Instead of shying away from foreign entanglements and permanent alliances with foreign powers, the establishment in Washington has embraced Zionism so wholeheartedly that in the eyes any criticism of the Zionist state and any opposition to political Zionism in the UN by any nation has become a punishable offense. And the docile American media do not dare to speak out against such an absurdity.

    Unfortunately, thus far, each year sees still further gains in influence by American Zionists. This fact has made possible events and developments that were unthinkable even ten years ago. It takes a lot of courage to be opposed to Zionism in the USA today. It also took a lot of courage during the Second World War to be anti-Fascist in Italy or anti-Nazi in Germany. In the long run Zionism is nothing but a passing aberration in the long history of the Jewish people and of the world.

  22. Is this true?
    There is a recurring theme here. It seems that “the Jews” are now attempting to surpass each other in hyperbole in regards to themselves and their “Historic hopes.” This is not mere Jewish chutzpah but the articulation of an ancient ambition that has been nurtured in the breasts of successive generations of Jews since the time of the Khazars and beyond. When people like Begin and Mandelstam speak they speak for an entire race that has been subtly corrupted by Evil and whose ordinary members have been cruelly and cynically used by their hidden masters, the Evil Jewish Leadershipwho themselves serve even more sinister masters … the Occult Hierarchy … the Black Adepts of the Cult of Evil, theSecret Masters of the Dark Empire of Secret Societies … the Dark Masters of the Confederacy of Evil who have guided World Jewry along paths and into directions it should not have gone.

    Not all Jews are evil but Evil has recruited willing disciples from the ranks of Jewry because of its unique status and mindset that has made it a consummate instrument of Evil. The Black Adepts of the Cult of Evil come from different races but the Modern Tribe of Jews has contributed significant figures to it.

    The blood of their own people is not only dripping from the grasping hands of Jewish Zionists but the blood of so many others as well, for, the ambitions of Zionists, both Jew and Gentile, will not be blocked by anything or anyone. Moreover, when we learn that Jewish Zionists actively conspired to sacrifice their own people in the death camps of Europe during the Nazi reign then we know that Evil is at its root and in its very being. The ordinary Jew, like the ordinary Gentile, has been used as a disposable commodity in the Great Game, which is the five thousand year old Luciferian Conspiracy for World Government.

    Moreover, the Black Adepts, the High Priests of the Luciferian Creed, are the main human agents of Evil on Earth who orchestrate this Great Game on Earth and think nothing of sacrificing millions to their Dark Gods who are Ahriman(Satan) and Lucifer. These Black Adepts belong to an ancient cult that precedes the Cult of Yahweh. For, their religion is a very ancient religion that has set itself up as the vehicle by which the ambitions of Lucifer and Ahriman are hastened on Earth. This ancient, evil cult is the Cult of Evil. Furthermore, the main human agents of Evil, the Black Adepts of the the Cult of Evil, are intergenerational Luciferians and Satanist; successive generations of humans linked by blood who have given themselves up totally, to the blandishments of Evil.

    The Cult of Evil’s advance to absolute temporal power on Earth has been inexorable and its adherents can be found in the ranks of the highest and most exalted of our leaders. The very leaders who profess their love for God, king and country, treacherously betray God, their king and their country to their own gods who are the Dark Gods, Lucifer and Ahriman.And the infiltration of Organised Jewry by the minions of the Black Adepts of the Cult of Evil and the spectacular rise of Kabbalism in Western Mystery Tradition during the Enlightenment was not accidental. For, history does not “happen” it is made by men who conspire to transform the future by commanding the present.

    Amongst the Kabbalists were men who were nominally Jewish but had worked, like generations of Black Adepts before them, to hasten the ambitions of the Dark Gods on Earth, and would betray their race as they would betray humanity itself to their gods in an instant. The Kabbalah was not only a contemporary expression of gnosis but also another vehicle of Evil by which the ambitions of Lucifer and Ahriman are infixed in human consciousness and transmitted down through the ages. For, the Kabbalists had nurtured within their ranks a Cult of Evil headed by the Black Adepts who had attached themselves (and still do) to the Jewish race, parasite-like, understanding that the uniqueness of Jewry give them a singular and powerful means of enacting the Agenda of Evil that they follow. For, these few men within Jewry, nominally Jewish but who hate Jews as they hate all mankind, are the human agents of Evil who seek to destroy Natural Moral Order on Earth and are using World Jewry to do it.

    That is why this secret cabal within Jewry used the Kabbalists as a means to attack Western Civilisation, which was founded upon the Christ Impulse released from the Cross at Calvary. And it is these few but very influential men who have been very influential in infixing within the Jewish consciousness the chauvinism and contempt for fellowmen that has led Jewry into repeated confrontation with the Gentile world.

    The mass expulsions of Jews from host nations and “anti-Semitism” are not accidents or anomalies in history nor are they a consequence of Gentile envy. Rather, they happen as a reaction to Jewish angst and mischief. They occurred because of Jewry’s manifest rancour and contempt for both mankind and especially for the Christ Impulse that underpins Western Civilisation. The Talmud is the exoteric expression of this hatred towards humankind while the Kabbalah is the occult manifestation of this Evil intent. Both are bitter fruits of the activity of Evil upon the “genius of the Jew” and the actions of the few men who moulded Jewish sentiment by their warped philosophies.

    All Jews are not evil but some Jews have given themselves over to the Dark Side and have secretly worshipped the Dark Gods, just as some Gentiles have done. Consequently, both Gentile and Jew are amongst the lower grades of the the Cult of Evil and some have even ascended to the ranks of the Occult Hierarchy, who are the Black Adepts of the Cult of Evil, the High Priests of the Luciferian Creed, and orchestrate the Great Conspiracy on Earth.

    Thus, some of our best known leaders, both Jew and Gentile, who profess loyalty and love for their people, stand condemned by their treachery toward mankind as they secretly work to betray it to their sinister gods by attempting to subvert God’s rule on Earth. And, the promotion of Organised Jewry as the bete noire of humanity is a primary concern of the wicked and evil people who are willing agents of Evil. Thus, by perverting the idea of “God’s Chosen People” fiendish people have knowingly produced a race of bigots who think nothing of despoiling the nations in which they live, moreover, who do so in the belief that it is mandated by God. Moreover, to encourage separateness and aloofness that guaranteed a peculiar sense of spiritual and racial integrity in which, through the centuries, was distilled a rancour and hatred for the rest of humanity but, especially, towards Christ and everything He represented.

    The Proper Student of History who understands the true nature of History, who sees the Hidden Stream of History and the actions of Higher Hidden Hands upon the historical process, perceives in certain events the actions of Divine Will as well as the dark machinations of Evil Powers. Thus, the Proper Student of Historyperceives the machinations of Evil in the destruction of the first international bankers, the Knights Templars. Why? Because the organisation of the Knights Templars was a major repository of the Christ Impulse and its leaders had worked ceaselessly to fashion a modern Europe founded upon it. Thus, the Proper Student of History also sees the machinations of Evil in the skilful replacement of the Knights Templars by Organised Jewry as the “International Bankers” of the future. That is, the careful positioning of the race of men, “the Jew,” together with his enmity and rancorous philosophies as the future financiers and moneymen of modern Europe. In other words, the Proper Student of History perceives in the destruction of the Knights Templars (the Guardians of the Christ Impulse) and the exaltation of the Jewish usurer (the apotheosis of Jewish enmity to the Christ Impulse) a key event in the unfolding conspiracy … the five thousand year old Luciferian Conspiracy for World Government.

    Those who understand the sublime unity of History, who recognise the myriad themes and patterns flowing through it, also know that seemingly unconnected events separated by centuries are, in fact, intimately connected. They not only perceive the connectedness of many events separated by time and space but also that proper understanding of the nature of these events brings a more substantive understanding of History. In this wise, the keen student of History will perceive a sublime connectivity in certain events in ancient Palestine with some occurring today. For example, Christ was moved to physical violence only once. This happened following His riding in triumph into Jerusalem, when He went by the eastern gate, called the King’s Gate, and into The Temple; when he entered the house of His heavenly Father, as the Lord and Proprietor of it. Where He came upon a great impiety and saw people buying and selling, and changing money, in The Temple, in His Father’s house. The corrupt, greedy, rapacious money-changers had turned the house of prayer into a den of thieves. Christ so angered by them and their activities overthrew the tables of the money-changers and “drove them all out of the temple” (Matt. 21:12; Mark 11:15; John 2:15).

    Thus, the Proper Student of History sees in this event a deep significance especially when juxtaposed with the crucial role of the International Bankers, the modern money-changers, in the Evil Agenda to debase, demoralise and enslave the masses. Moreover, perceive the significance of the crucial role of the Jew in this ungodly scheme.

  23. Is it true?
    The ‘controversy’ about who wrote the Protocols continues. However, the obvious, practical conclusion is that it doesn’t make any difference WHO wrote them. The argument about authorship and hoax theories are utterly MOOT. This ‘controversy’ is usually seated among people who have NOT read them.
    Anyone I know who has actually read them has no doubt about them and what they represent. The Protocols, no matter who penned them, are the key to understanding the current collapse of our civilization.
    The wholesale extermination of Moslems in Iraq and Afghanistan indicates to me in NO uncertain terms, that we are clearly at the beginning of WW3. The endless lies in the controlled media about 911 and Iraq war have forced me to, again, review the Protocols. The simple, blatant FACT is that a very small group of Zionist Jews have implemented virtually every one of Protocols. And all that has been done behind the backs and without the knowledge of 99% of we Jews.
    And, as always, we remain amazed…absolutely AMAZED. Each time we reread it, we discover new implementations of the Protocols, and how the protocols are slowly confiscating our properties, eroding our economies and the civil rights of the populations in western countries, and the stupid Goyim STILL do not realise it.
    To think that this very small Zionist group has succeeded over the last 50 years in replacing, controlling or seriously influencing most of the political, military and intelligence leadership of western countries, is mind-bogglingly awesome.
    This ‘coup’ predicated on the Protocols is, in the humble opinion, the most important news event of the last 100 years. While this subject is discussed widely around the world – and a 30-part television series about the Protocols is running in many Moslem countries, we in the West are NOT allowed to ever mention this subject. Only now, people are beginning to understand why Jews were always forbidden to read the Protocols.
    Only a person who is familiar with the Protocols can easily, correctly interpret the barrage of misleading/fabricated statements coming out of Downing street and the White House. NO ONE can claim to be informed about the current state of the world WITHOUT having read the Protocols.
    Here are just a few random excerpts to ponder:
    6. In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan.
    GENTILES ARE STUPID 6.
    The GOYIM enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope by their means to get a nibble at the public pie, and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, of which we are remarkably generous. And the reason why we give them this success is to make use of the nigh conceit of themselves to which it gives birth, for that insensibly disposes them to assimulate our suggestions without being on their guard against them in the fullness of their confidence that it is their own infallibility which is giving utterance to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others ….
    You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the GOYIM can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success…. by so much as ours disregard success if only they can carry through their plans, by so much the Goyim are willing to sacrifice any plans only to have success.
    This psychology of theirs materially facilitates for us the task of setting them in the required direction. These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads. We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM …. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality ….
    PROTOCOL No. 16 1.
    In order to effect the destruction of all collective forces except ours we shall emasculate the first stage of collectivism — the UNIVERSITIES, by re-educating them in a new direction. THEIR OFFICIALS AND PROFESSORS WILL BE PREPARED FOR THEIR BUSINESS BY DETAILED SECRET PROGRAMS OF ACTION FROM WHICH THEY WILL NOT WITH IMMUNITY DIVERGE, NOT BY ONE IOTA. THEY WILL BE APPOINTED WITH ESPECIAL PRECAUTION, AND WILL BE SO PLACED AS TO BE WHOLLY DEPENDENT UPON THE GOVERNMENT.
    4. IT IS FROM US THAT THE ALL-ENGULFING TERROR PROCEEDS. WE HAVE IN OUR SERVICE PERSONS OF ALL OPINIONS, OF ALL DOCTRINES, RESTORATING MONARCHISTS, DEMAGOGUES, SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS, AND UTOPIAN DREAMERS OF EVERY KIND. We have harnessed them all to the task: EACH ONE OF THEM ON HIS OWN ACCOUNT IS BORING AWAY AT THE LAST REMNANTS OF AUTHORITY, IS STRIVING TO OVERTHROW ALL ESTABLISHED FORM OF ORDER. By these acts all States are in torture; they exhort to tranquility, are ready to sacrifice everything for peace: BUT WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM PEACE UNTIL THEY OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR INTERNATIONAL SUPER-GOVERNMENT, AND WITH SUBMISSIVENESS.
    ONLY LIES PRINTED
    15. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government. Thanks to such methods we shall be in a position as from time to time may be required, to excite or to tranquillize the public mind on political questions, to persuade or to confuse, printing now truth, now lies, facts or their contradictions, according as they may be well or ill received, always very cautiously feeling our ground before stepping upon it …. WE SHALL HAVE A SURE TRIUMPH OVER OUR OPPONENTS SINCE THEY WILL NOT HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSITION ORGANS OF THE PRESS IN WHICH THEY CAN GIVE FULL AND FINAL EXPRESSION TO THEIR VIEWS owing to the aforesaid methods of dealing with the press. We shall not even need to refute them except very superficially.
    WE CONTROL THE PRESS
    4. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.
    1. We shall soon begin to establish huge monopolies, reservoirs of colossal riches, upon which even, large fortunes of the GOYIM will depend to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of the States on the day after the political smash …
    4. The aristocracy of the GOYIM as a political force, is dead — We need not take it into account; but as landed proprietors they can still be harmful to us from the fact that they are self-sufficing in the resources upon which they live. It is essential therefore for us at whatever cost to deprive them of their land. This object will be best attained by increasing the burdens upon landed property — in loading lands with debts. These measures will check land-holding and keep it in a state of humble and un-conditional submission.
    7. To complete the ruin of the industry of the GOYIM we shall bring to the assistance of speculation the luxury which we have developed among the GOYIM, that greedy demand for luxury which is swallowing up everything.
    2. Throughout all Europe, and by means of relations with Europe, in other continents also, we must create ferments, discords and hostility. Therein we gain a double advantage. In the first place we keep in check all countries, for they will know that we have the power whenever we like to create disorders or to restore order. All these countries are accustomed to see in us an indispensable force of coercion. In the second place, by our intrigues we shall tangle up all the threads which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States by means of the political, by economic treaties, or loan obligations. In order to succeed in this we must use great cunning and penetration during negotiations and agreements, but, as regards what is called the “official language,” we shall keep to the opposite tactics and assume the mask of honesty and complacency. In this way the peoples and governments of the GOYIM, whom we have taught to look only at the outside whatever we present to their notice, will still continue to accept us as the benefactors and saviours of the human race.
    3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war. 4. Moreover, the art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbitage, by regulations of life in common and all sorts of other quirks, in all which the GOYIM understand nothing, belongs likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain. Reared on analysis, observation, on delicacies of fine calculation, in this species of skill we have no rivals, any more than we have either in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity. In this respect the Jesuits alone might have compared with us, but we have contrived to discredit them in the eyes of the unthinking mob as an overt organization, while we ourselves all the while have kept our secret organization in the shade. However, it is probably all the same to the world who is its sovereign lord, whether the head of Catholicism or our despot of the blood of Zion! But to us, the Chosen People, it is very far from being a matter of indifference.
    WE ARE WOLVES
    4. The GOYIM are a flock of sheep, and we are their wolves. And you know what happens when the wolves get hold of the flock?
    5. There is another reason also why they will close their eyes: for we shall keep promising them to give back all the liberties we have taken away as soon as we have quelled the enemies of peace and tamed all parties ….
    6. It is not worth to say anything about how long a time they will be kept waiting for this return of their liberties.

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    Today in Afganistan, in a sleepy village with no military presence but a few policemen, a few whole families and many women and children were killed by a car-bomb in a market area. A car driven by one of the usual idiots, of course.

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    Added ‘little twist’ story ….
    “On July 28, Hamas security placed Sami Abu Lashin under “house arrest” – and shot him in the legs in order to keep him in his house.
    We know Hamas has shot some suspected “collaborators” in the legs for their “house arrest.” But Lashin does not appear to be a collaborator, he has extensive anti-Israel material on his Facebook page yet is not pro-Hamas.
    One of his Fatah friends expressed frustration that Hamas and Islamic Jihad were not including Fatah in their strategy sessions during the war, even though Fatah has taken credit for hundreds of rockets towards Israel.
    Hamas used the war as cover to go after its political enemies. Knowing that Israel would give warnings to people to leave their houses, they used the excuse of “house arrest” and collaboration to enforce their desire to keep Fatah members in their houses, to be killed. This way they achieve two goals: indirectly killing their enemies and being able to blame Israel for killing Gazans who were unable to leave their homes!
    The Western media is utterly silent about the level of depravity of Hamas in Gaza.”

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