Obama lost faith in Afghanistan mission, says Gates

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bill gates defThe former defense boss has dropped a bombshell.

Robert Gates, President Obama’s ex-secretary of defense, contends in a new book that Obama backed our soldiers in Afghanistan but lost faith in their mission despite having ordered an infusion of new troops.

Gates came to the conclusion that Obama “doesn’t believe in his own strategy, and doesn’t consider the war to be his. For him, it’s all about getting out,” according to his new memoir, “Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War,” to be published next week.

The book is the first major insider tale of the administration. Gates, a Republican and the only cabinet holdover Obama kept from the George W. Bush administration, served two years and was replaced in 2011 by Leon Panetta, who was later succeeded by Chuck Hagel.
In the book, Gates amply praises Obama, calling him intellectually rigorous and willing to overrule the advice of top aides and other Democrats.

But he is very critical over Afghanistan — even though he believes the President made the right decisions about the war there.

The President ordered a surge of 30,000 troops into Afghanistan in 2009, but by 2011 he apparently thought it was a mistake, the book says.
Gates recalls a meeting at which Obama vented about Gen. David Petraeus, his commander, and Afghan President Hamad Karzai.

“The President doesn’t trust his commander, can’t stand Karzai, doesn’t believe in his own strategy and doesn’t consider the war to be his,” Gates writes. “For him, it’s all about getting out,” according to reports about the book in the Washington Post and The New York Times.
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He does commend Obama’s decision to raid the house where Osama bin Laden was hiding, calling it “one of the most courageous decisions I had ever witnessed in the White House.”

In the book, Gates slams Vice President Biden with very faint praise. He calls him a man of integrity but says, “I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

He praises Hillary Clinton, then secretary of state, but claims she told Obama that her 2007 opposition as a senator to Bush’s surge in Iraq was rooted in political calculation — she knew she would face Obama, an opponent of the war, in the 2008 Iowa presidential caucuses.

Gates claims Obama similarly “conceded vaguely ” that his own opposition to the surge was political.

“To hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying,” he said.

Gates also criticizes the Bush administration, saying the former President failed to capitalize on early victories in Iraq and Afghanistan and would not listen when Gates and then Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice pushed for a shutdown of the Guantanamo detention center.

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  1. This was supposed to be a simple victory for the superpower. The mujahideen had other ideas . Their martyrdom operations and IED’s have inflicted massive damaged to the invaders. They have turned this war on its head , and sent the western economy into a financial crisis.
    The war in Iraq was turned on its head by the martyrdom operations under the leadership of Shaykh Abu Mussab Al-Zarqawi (RA). It is said that the American soldiers used to shiver when they heard that they were heading to Iraq to face Abu Mussab Al- Zarqawi! Similar was the case with the martyrdom operations under Mulla Dadullah (RA) in Afghanistan. The reality, as stated before is that the world of Kufr does not possess an answer to this weapon of the Muslims. Therefore, the Muslims have learnt this weapon of war, cherished it and are utilising it to the maximum effect to destroy the false might of the Kuffar. The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life. They view this world merely as a passing amusement as their Prophet r said: “Live in this world as if you were a traveller…”

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      man-o-war

      “The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life”, and there lies the major problem with you terrorists. You don’t love life as much as you love death. I guess even a super power can’t fix stupid. Can you go blow yourself up now? Also, until that moment happens can you please wear a condom when you sleep with your child bride. Thanks, from the rest of the sane world that loves life.

      1. What is Suicide Bombing?

        “A Suicide bombing can be defined as a group or an individual inflicting harm upon their perceived targets by way of taking their own lives in a military operation.” This can take the form of binding explosives to ones’ own body or to an attached equipment or vehicle and then detonating it in a suitable area to inflict harm upon the target. In these operations, the committer is almost certain to lose his life, hence the labeling of “suicide”.

        Now, the term suicide is generally used to refer to the act of taking one’s own life due to discontentment, isolation or otherwise. Suicide is generally considered something blameworthy. Islam, however, has shown us that suicide results when a person runs away from the Commands of Allah and when his relationship with Allah ﷻ deteriorates. Allah, The Exalted Says:

        “But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Quran nor acts on its orders, etc.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.” [20:124] So, whoever turns away from the Religion of Allah, His Quran and the teachings of His Prophet , then he will have a life of hardship – whether he realizes it or not. The Kafir or Mushrik who does not believe in Allah, or associates someone else as a partner with Him, has no connection with Allah and therefore, when hardship comes upon him because of his sin or otherwise, he sees nowhere to go and sees little meaning with his life in this world. So he takes his own life. As for a Muslim committing suicide then the reasons for these are somewhat the same – discontent with the Decree of Allah and insufficient faith.

        The Islamic Ruling on Suicide

        Shaykh Abdul Hakeem (HA) writes:

        “The curse of Allah is upon the person who commits suicide. His abode is Hellfire. Allah is Displeased with him. The one who commits suicide does so because of impatience, and despair of the mercy of Allah. Either he lacks faith or his faith is non-existent. He kills himself without a Shar’ai purpose e.g. anger or illness or due to loss of honor etc. None of these reasons have anything to do with raising the Word of Allah.

        Abu Huraira d narrates, “We were in Khyber when the Prophet  said about a person that he is from the people of Hellfire, even though he claimed to be a Muslim. When the time for the battle came, he fought bravely. When he endured severe wounds, the people were close to doubting (his destiny). (But) When he started feeling the pain from his wounds, he took out an arrow from his quiver and killed himself with it. This was hard upon the Muslims. They said, ‘O Prophet of Allah r! Your words proved true. That man committed suicide.’ He  said: “Declare that only the believer will go to Paradise. But the help of this religion is taken from even the corrupt.” [Bukhari, Muslim, Ahmad]

        … Abu Huraira d narrates that the Prophet  said: “Whoever kills himself by strangling then he will be strangled in the Hellfire. Whoever kills himself by a sword or a dagger then he will be sentenced to the same punishment in Hellfire.”

        There are a lot of Hadith to this effect. The scholars are unanimously agreed on the prohibition of suicide. The one who commits suicide commits a major sin. If he considers it permissible then he will remain forever in Hellfire. If he does not consider it permissible, then he will remain for a long time in Hellfire but not forever. Allah The Exalted Said:

        “… And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire, and that is easy for Allah.” [4:29-30]”1

        It is clear from the above discussion that suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam. What entails from that is that “suicide bombing” is not suicide according to Islam because, as we will see, Islam extols the martyrdom operation.

        So martyrdom operation ≠ Suicide bombing

        So, from now on, we will refer to these operations as “martyrdom operations” instead of “suicide bombings” which is a false term.

        The Islamic Ruling on Martyrdom Operations

        There are many evidences in the Quran, Sunnah and the sayings of the truthful scholars that indicate the legitimacy of the martyrdom operation.

        Allah Says: “And amongst mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the Pleasure of Allah. And Allah is full of Sympathy to (His) slaves.” [2:207]

        Imam Ibn Kathir said in the explanation of this verse: “The majority of the scholars of Tafsir hold that this verse was sent down regarding every Mujahid in the Path of Allah… and when Hisham ibn ‘Amir d plunged into the enemy ranks, some of the people objected to this. So, Umar bin Khattab d and Abu Hurayra d recited this verse.” [Tafsir ibn Kathir 1/216]
        Hisham ibn ‘Amir d plunged into the enemy ranks knowing full well that he would almost certainly die as a result of this just as the case is with the martyrdom operations. So, Umar ibn Khattab d and Abu Hurayra d approved of the act…

        Imam Muslim narrated in his Sahih on the authority of Abu Bakr bin Musa d that he said: “I heard Abu Hurayra d in the presence of the enemy saying, “The Prophet  said, “The gates of Paradise are beneath the shade of swords!”. A heavily built man then stood up and said, “O Abu Musa! You heard the Messenger of Allah  say this?” He said, “Yes!” Then the man returned to his comrades and said, “I give my Salam to you”. Then he broke his sheathe and walked with his sword into the enemy and attacked them until he was killed.”

        Imam Muslim also narrated in his Sahih the Hadith of Anas ibn Malik d in the story of the Battle of Badr: “The polytheists (now) advanced (towards us), and the Messenger of Allah  said: “Get up to enter Paradise, the width of which is equal to the heavens and the earth.” Umair bin Al-Humam Al-Ansari d said: “Messenger of Allah  Is Paradise equal in extent to the heavens and the earth?” He  said: “Yes.” Umair d said: “Good, Good!” The Messenger of Allah  asked him, “What prompted you to utter these words (i.e. good, good!)?” He replied, “Messenger of Allah ! Nothing but the desire that I be among its residents” He  said: “You are (surely) among its residents.” Then Umair d took out dates from his bag and began to eat them. Then he said, “If I were to live until I have eaten all these dates of mine, it would be a long life.” (The narrator said): “He threw away all the dates he had with him and fought the enemies until he was killed.”

        In both these narrations, the Sahaba who carried out the attacks almost certainly knew that they were going to be killed during their operations but they still carried them out and such acts were extolled and praised in the Shariah.

        In Mustadrak Al-Hakim, it is narrated that a man came to the Messenger of Allaah  and said: “How do you see it if I were to throw myself into the midst of the polytheists and fight them until I was killed? Would I go to Paradise? “He  replied: “Yes.” So the man threw himself into the midst of the pagans and fought until he was killed.

        This Hadith is also another clear evidence of the legality of martyrdom operations which involve plunging oneself into the midst of the enemy to cause them harm.

        Imam Ahmad t narrated in his Musnad from Ibn Mas’ud d that the Prophet  said, “Our Lord wonders at two men: a man who stirs from his bed… to Prayer… and a man who raids in the Path of Allah and his companions are defeated, and he realizes what awaits him in defeat and (what) awaits him in returning (to combat) – but he returns (to combat) until his blood is spilled. Allah Says: “Look at my servant! He went back (to combat) hopeful and anxious for that which is with Me, until his blood was spilled.”

        The man who goes back to combat knows fully well before his operation that he will die but Allah Welcomes his deed and praises his action!

        Mua’th ibn ‘Afra d asked the Messenger of Allah : “What makes Allah Laugh upon His slave?” He  replied, “The slave immersing himself into the army without armor.” Mu’ath d then took off his armor and fought until he was killed.

        Glory be to Allah! What would be the status of the one upon whom Allah ﷻ Laughs?

        Imam Qurtubi d said: “I heard that when the army of Muslims met the Persians, the horses of the Muslims fled fearing the Persian elephants. One of them (the Muslims) made an elephant out of clay and made his horse familiar with it (so that it wouldn’t get scared seeing a completely new creature). The next day, his horse did not run from the elephant, so he attacked the elephant that was leading. He was told ‘It will certainly kill you’. He said, ‘No grief, that I die and the Muslims win’”

        … And there are a lot Ahadith and events narrated in the texts similar to the above. These clearly illustrate that the Shariah considers it highly rewarding for a person to sacrifice his life for the sake of Allah with the complete surety that the person’s attack will result in his death as in the case of the martyrdom operation if there is considerable benefit in it for Islam and the Muslims. The martyrdom operation is a modern technique that is similar to the case of the Sahaba plunging themselves into the enemy ranks with a sure probability of death. The only difference between the two is that in the martyrdom operation, the operative causes his own death while in the case of the incidents mentioned earlier, the operative is killed by the enemy. But the scholars state that this does not make a difference since the intention (to raise High the Word of Allah etc.) and the outcome (death) is similar in both cases. And what matters is the intention. Furthermore, the following evidence provides the final verdict in the matter:

        What is stated as the strongest proof of killing oneself for the sake of the uplifting of the religion of Allah is the story of the Boy and the Cave in the Battle of the Ditch. The story has been narrated in Sahih Muslim. The full Hadith can be looked at from the source. We will quote here the part that concerns us. As a summary, in the previous nations, a king was persecuting a boy on account of his faith in Islam. He tried several ways to kill the boy, like trying to throw him from the top of a mountain or drowning him in the ocean… but the boy would supplicate to Allah to save him and he would be saved. Finally, it comes in the narration:

        “… He (the boy) said to the King: “You will not be able to kill me until you do what I say!” (The King) said: “What is that?” He replied, “Gather all the people on a single plain and tie me to a (tree) trunk. Then take an arrow from my quiver and place it in the middle of the bow and say, ‘In the Name of Allah, The Lord of the boy!’, then shoot me. If you do that, you will (be able to) kill me.” So, the King gathered all the people in a single plain and tied him to a (tree) trunk. He then took an arrow from his quiver, placed it in the middle of the bow and said, “In the Name of Allah! The Lord of the boy” and fired the arrow. The arrow hit the boy’s temple. He placed his hand on his temple and then died. So the people said, “We believe in the Lord of the boy… we believe in the Lord of the boy.”

        The King was then told, “Do you see what you feared? By Allah! That which you feared has happened! The people have believed (in the Lord of the boy).” So, the King ordered for ditches (to be dug) at the junctions of all the roads. When they were dug, fires were lit in them and the King said, “Whoever does not renounce his religion, then throw him in the fire or tell them to jump into it.” So this was what happened until a woman came carrying a baby and she hesitated to jump into the fire, so the child spoke to her, “O Mother! Have patience for you are upon the truth!”

        It is clear from this Hadith that the boy caused his own killing so that the people would accept Islam and be saved from the Hellfire. Therefore, such a deed is not considered suicide in the Shariah. Rather, it is considered as one of the most praiseworthy actions.

        It is also proven here that just as the boy caused his own death for the sake of Islam, it is also permissible for the martyrdom operative to cause his own death if there is a valid benefit of Islam involved (as determined by the Scholars and Mujahideen). If someone were to say that the boy did not kill himself by his own hands as the martyrdom operative does, then the scholars have replied to this that a person who commits suicide by his own hands or by, say, telling another person to shoot him would get the same legal verdict applied to him. So, the method of killing does not matter; rather what is crucial is
        the Decree of Allah etc. in the case of suicide) Similarly, it does not matter whether the martyrdom seeker kills himself by his own hands or by the hands of the enemy as long as the intention is valid i.e. to Raise High the Word of Allah and to establish Islam, terrorize the Kuffar etc… And Allah Knows Best…

        And this is why martyrdom operations are allowed because they constitute sacrificing one’s life for raising high the Word of Allah, spreading His Religion, terrorizing His enemies and encouraging His slaves (i.e. Muslims) to fight.

        As a summary, we will mention some of the views of the Scholars regarding a single man plunging into the ranks of the Kuffar, just as the case is with the martyrdom operation:

        The Scholarly Verdicts

        From the Hanafi school of Law, Imam Muhammad ibn Hassan Ash-Shaibani said in the book As-Seer Al-Kabir: “If one person attacks 1000 polytheists, there is nothing wrong with this if there is hope of success or infliction of loss upon the enemy; otherwise, it is disliked for then he would expose himself to death without having benefitted the Muslims. As for someone whose aim is to incite the Muslims to emulate his feat, then its permissibility is not far-fetched for it contains benefit for the Muslims in certain ways. If his intent is to terrorize the enemy and demonstrate the Muslims’ strength of faith then its permissibility is not far-fetched if there is benefit in it for the religion. Giving one’s life for strengthening the religion and weakening the infidels is a Noble Status that Allah Has Praised the Believers with in His Statement:

        “Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise…” [9:111]2

        One of the Maliki scholars – Ibn Al-Khuwaiz Miqdad – said : “And as for the person who attacks 100 or a unit of an army, or a group of thieves and fighters, or the Khawarij3 then there are two probabilities: ‘If he knows it probable that he will kill those he attacks and get saved then this is better. And if he knows it probable that he will get killed but will cause great harm (to the enemy) or benefit to the Muslims, then this is permissible too.”4

        From the Shafi’ school of Fiqh, Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani stated : “As for the matter of one person attacking a larger number of the enemy, then the consensus is that if it is done to show courage to terrify the enemy and encourage the Muslims against them or a similar intention to this, then it is good. And when it is done out of mere rashness, the nit is not allowed, especially if it causes weakness in the Muslims.”5

        Of the Hanbali school, Ibn Taymiyyah stated: “The four scholars have declared permissible the plunging in the rows of the polytheists even if it is probable that they will kill him, if it is beneficial for the Muslims.”6

        2. Tafsir Al-Qurtubi (364/2)

        3. A sect that differed away from mainstream Islam

        4. Tafsir Al-Qurtubi (363/2)

        5. Fath-ul-Bari (8/185-186)

        6. Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah (28/540)

        From all these evidences, it is clear that martyrdom operations are firmly backed by evidences from the Islamic Shariah. And they are one of the greatest means of gaining the approval of Allah, The Exalted. As stated by the scholars, the martyrdom operations are allowed if there is considerable benefit in it for Islam and the Muslim Ummah. The Mujahideen have utilized these operations in various battlefields – from Afghanistan to Iraq and various contemporary scholars of all schools of thought have clarified their legality.

        Contemporary Verdicts

        Now, we will quote some statements of the contemporary scholars in favor of the martyrdom operation:

        Mufti Abu Bashar Al-Qasmi (HA) of the Indian subcontinent, author of one of the best books on the subject entitled, “Islam and the Martyrdom Operations” writes:

        “(From the incident of the people of the Ditch) We came to know that the boy arranged for his own killing by ordering the King to kill him. If the boy neither ordered nor told the King the way to kill him, the King wouldn’t have been able to do so. It is also clear from this that it is allowed to kill oneself through others if the purpose is to uplift the religion. Similarly, it is also allowed to kill oneself for the honor of the religion – just as the people of the Ditch threw themselves into the fire by their own free will. Even the woman who was hesitating to jump into the fire was encouraged by her baby who spoke by the Will of Allah, “Oh mother! Have patience for you are upon the truth!”. After this, the mother threw herself into the fire and earned the status of martyrdom.

        Similarly, if one is killed by another’s hand, then this makes no difference – for example an individual attacking a large army by himself.

        All these people are martyrs, worthy of praise… All of them have been praised. This is because they did these “suicide” attacks because of the benefit and uplifting of the religion. And whatever act is done for the sake of benefit of the religion and raising high the Word of Islam, then that is a pious act.

        It can be deduced from this that if someone kills himself for the uplifting of the religion, or if he immerses himself into the ranks of the Kuffar and they kill him, or if he orders others to kill him for the sake of the benefit and honor of the religion… All these have the same ruling… There is no difference between them. They are all martyrs…”

        [Islam and Martyrdom Operations: Pg. 164-165]

        In another place, he writes after citing some evidences:

        “It can be deduced from this that those people who carry out the martyrdom operation in obedience to Allah ﷻ and in the struggle of Jihad and get killed as a result, then they are martyrs. It is utterly wrong to doubt their martyrdom or their admission to Paradise. When the tongue of Prophethood  has borne witness to their martyrdom, then there is no room for any Ummati to express an opinion contrary to that of his Prophet .” [Pg. 168]

        Shaykh Sulayman Al-Ulwan (HA) of the Arabian Peninsula writes:

        “And I see that in this time, in which the Muslims are unable to (fully) fight the Jews and destroy them and expel them from the Holy Land, then the best treatment and the greatest medicine that we apply to the brothers of monkeys and pigs (i.e. the Jews) is that we perform these martyrdom operations, and put forward our souls as a sacrifice for the motivation of faith, and for (other) praiseworthy goals, such as planting terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve , inflicting damage upon their bodies and causing loss to their wealth.”

        He (HA) then comments on the story of the people of the Ditch and says:

        “So in this, there is evidence for the correctness of these martyrdom operations that the Mujahideen in the Path of Allah perform against the Jews, Christians and those who make mischief in the earth.”

        [The Islamic Ruling on the Permissibility of Self-Sacrificial Operations: Pg. 53-54]

        The Intellectual Evidence

        For a Muslim, the evidence of the Quran and Sunnah is sufficient to cleanse his heart regarding the legality of any matter. Allah’s Book and His Messenger’s  Sunnah represent the final ordinance that may be used to judge the permission or prohibition of any matter. However, it is allowed in the Shariah to narrate intellectual evidences that conform to the primary source of legislation (i.e. Quran and Sunnah). And so, we will take a general look at why martyrdom operations are performed by the Mujahideen from an empirical standpoint.
        To say that the current war that is being fought between Islam and Kufr is one-sided (from a worldly perspective) is an understatement to say the least. On the one hand are the 40+ NATO allies with their heavy air, land and sea weaponry, latest gadgets and state-of-the-art equipment. They have their B-52’s, daisy cutters and Apaches that can destroy entire populations within a short span of time along with a number of soldiers that seems unmatchable. They have nukes at hand to erase generations of human beings. At the head of this unholy alliance is a country whose defense budget exceeds the revenues of some entire countries that exist on the same planet. Then, these 40+ countries have as their trustworthy allies the apostate leadership of the so-called “Muslim” countries, complete with their armies, logistics and intelligence…

        On the other side, there are the plain and simple people who do not possess the reins of any country. They are not leaders over vast areas of lands, nor do they command the politics or economics of any sizeable region. Their weaponry is basic – small firearms, IEDs’ and limited heavy weaponry. Their sources of income are the charities that are given by their fellow brothers in faith and the booty that they acquire waging war. Their number is limited, their abodes are mountains and their style is guerilla.

        But they have Allah on their side… And they will be granted victory because they do not disobey the One in Whose Hands is the Dominion of the Heavens and the Earth…

        “That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord. Thus does Allah set forth their parables for mankind.” [47:3]

        And blessed are the meek

        For they shall inherit the world

        But what are the means that they utilized to achieve this victory?

        The reality of the martyrdom operations is that they have turned this war on its head. A Mujahid can strap on explosives to his body or vehicle and explode it in the middle of a large gathering of the enemy and with the loss of just one life, huge losses to the enemy can be inflicted. The truth is that the martyrdom operations have turned this war at its head. The Americans who were flexing their muscles at the innocent Muslims of Afghanistan after 2001 are now being seen asking for talks and trying desperately to find a way out of this war. The effect of 9/11 bears witness to this! 19 determined men changed the course of history with one superb effort. They caused almost irreparable losses to the Kuffar’s economy and destroyed the years of planning they had done to colonize the world…

        Then, the war in Iraq was turned on its hand by the martyrdom operations under the leadership of Shaykh Abu Mussab Al-Zarqawi (RA). It is said that the American soldiers used to shiver when they heard that they were heading to Iraq to face Abu Mussab Al- Zarqawi! Similar was the case with the martyrdom operations under Mulla Dadullah (RA) in Afghanistan. The reality, as stated before is that the world of Kufr does not possess an answer to this weapon of Muslims. Therefore, the Muslims must learn this weapon of war, cherish it and utilize it to the maximum effect to destroy the false might of the Kuffar. The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life. They view this world merely as a passing amusement as their Prophet r said: “Live in this world as if you were a traveller…”

        In Conclusion

        All the false propaganda against martyrdom operations is a farce because the operations have their basis in the Shariah. The Muslims of the world must not look to the media or the public opinion when deciding the legality of any issue but they should look at the Shariah – the brilliant, clear Shariah which holds the light to salvation for them in this world and the next.

        So, therefore, as a conclusion it can be said that the term “suicide bombing” is inaccurate. Rather, “martyrdom operations” are one of the greatest of praiseworthy acts in the Shariah if they are carried out according to their conditions, under the guidance of pious Scholars and Mujahideen. We ask Allah to show us the truth as truth and enable us to follow it and to show us falsehood as falsehood and enable us to abstain from it…And our final word is that All Praise is to Allah, The Lord of the Worlds…

        1. master09 Avatar

          BLA BLA BLA like man o war said put a condom on, where on your body is up to you. lol

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Hang on I need to throw up again, can you see the pattern developing.

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          You spew all that garbage to tell me that Allah blesses “martyrdom operations” aka suicide bombings. What a waste of space you are. Your brilliant clear shariah that is used to rule Saudia Arabia (kingdom of pedophiles and suicide bombers) gave a man (Fayhan al-Ghamdi) 8 years in prison (only after widespread condemnation) for raping, torturing , and murdering his five year old daughter because the psycho questioned her virginity. He raped her in every hole she had, poor young innocent child. You and your sharia law are garbage and should be disposed of in the trash bin of history.

          Like I said before, you need to book a one way ticket out of Australia to Syria and strap some holy bombs to your body and send yourself to hell. I pray to Allah that he hasn’t let you breed yet.

          1. I seem to have struck a nerve which has enraged you man o war. The fact is there is a war on for the emergence of an Islamic empire. And war my friend is not freindly and not clean like old times. There is no more valour in war. The imperialist do not fight fair, so all is now fair In love and war.
            Pious Muslims spend their whole lives working for God and preparing for death and the hereafter, People who put in the effort and obey Allah’commands, are on a high level in Allah’s eyes. Because we have faith in one god , pray regularly , ,give zakat, fast regularly, we become ready and love to meet our creator, and he loves to meet us. People who disobey god and transgress beyond bounds in sin hate to meet their creator , and he dislikes meeting them. So they cling to what remain of their short life and have hateful eny to the true believers .
            Allah says in the Quran 3:119 (translated by Ali Unal)
            You are such (frank, clear-hearted) people that you love them (even those who are enemies to you), but they do not love you; and you believe in the whole of the Book (without making any distinction between the verses, and believe in all of the God-revealed Books). When they meet you they say (hypocritically), “We believe;” but when they find themselves alone, they gnaw their fingers in rage against you. Say (to them, O Messenger): “Perish in your rage!” Assuredly, God has full knowledge of what lies hidden in the bosoms. ” it looks like the quran have proved true once again. I’m sorry you continue to feel this way.
            By the way I married an Aussie who reverted to Islam, and have beautiful children who love Islam. ” there are so many stories like mine , because the truth is clear to those who are pure.

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I guess you’re not going to comment on the Muslim man sentenced to eight years for raping and murdering his five year old child, in a justice system run by Sharia law? Its okay, keep your head buried in the sand.

            “Pious Muslims spend their whole lives working for God and preparing for death and the hereafter”, it would be nice if you guys put as much energy in enjoying and living life to the fullest, even if it may be a speck of sand in time.

            War is not fair, I understand that. If your outnumbered and outgunned, it makes sense to resort to extreme measures like suicide bombings (still don’t agree with it). However, the targeting of civilian areas will surely send you to hell fire. Why do they have to target civilian areas? Schools? etc.. Military targets I can understand, but it never seems to stop there with extremists.

          3. Saudis don’t represent Islam as they are on a power trip, and I don’t defend rapists. So if he is guilty kill the bastard.
            Don’t get me wrong we love to enjoy life in peace, unfortunately evil will not leave us alone , thus the state of the world is as it is. I feel guilty for not being able to help my brethren more. That us why we need one righteous caliphate , and throw the secular puppets in the dustbins of history.
            Even many Muslims don’t agree with martyrdom operations as they are controversial , and that is their opinion. I do not hold that against them.
            But we gave a strong argument for it as I have represented .There is no exuse however for intentionally targeting innocent civilians , and anyone who does that is not a Muslim or totally misguided and is bound for hellfire.
            I believe I a moderate Islam, not extreme as advised by the quran and the prophet . Thank you for listening.

          4. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The holiest shrines of Islam are found in the Saudi kingdom. I think if any country represents Islam and should be held to the standards set by Islam it should be them. Where is the revolt led by the pious and righteous Muslims?

            If he is guilty? are you kidding? Don’t act like you haven’t heard of the case. When they give a man who murdered and raped his 5 year old daughter 8 years in prison its a blight on Islam.

            “kill the bastard”, You can’t even be executed for murdering your children or wife in Saudia Arabia. What justice system do they adhere to? Sharia law!

            You’re welcome. I’m always up for listening to opposing views.

          5. It’s quite upsetting to read how these people portray Islam to be. How can one condon suicide attacks and claim to be a forgiving person in the same breath. You make a very good point with regards to that poor 5 year old girl. That non human that raped her should be hang not jailed. Next thing he’ll tell you is his way of islam believes in the 72 virgins. May I suggest you don’t waste time exchanging with this person. It is like hitting your head against a brick wall.

          6. It wasn’t long ago that your Iranian shite friends threatened America with a million ready to go suicide bombers. It must be ok when it suits you right.
            Anyway anyone who supports Assad in this forum , is not highly thought of.
            So you better just keep quite.

          7. Where in my post have I said I follow any political leader? lol. I follow my heart which tells me to respect all walks of life. Which also tells me never to harm an innocent person especially a child because we differ in religious or political beliefs. To treat all people who threat me with dignity and respect. To not follow some false cleric with his false hadith that condones the killing of innocent people through suicide attacks. To treat my wife, sister and mother or daughter or any other female as equal humans and not as a slave. To allow my female family members to work and drive a car and have a social life without being called a Sharmouta. To not force my wife to war a burqa by telling he she will burn in the fires of hell if she doesn’t. And most importantly to not call Christians, Jews or Catholics infidels. After reading your comment, I can see your heart tells you the opposite. .

          8. Is this not your post see below
            Discussion on Ya Libnan News

            Key Syrian opposition bloc to reject peace talks

            Farq2 • 4 days ago
            The Syria opposition are as fake as they come. They never really wanted peace. They only know killing and destruction. Assad should not even try and negotiate with these non humans. He should only have one mind set for them, which is the mind he has now, destroy each and every last one of these rodents.”

            From the above posts you that you submitted I see you are a supporter of Assad , who condemns the killing of the invaders and tyrants , but fails to condemn the genocide of the innocence. I can see straight through your mask .
            You put down brave warriors whilst sucking up to the Kuffar.
            I sorry if I hurt your feelings but You are the type the quran warnes us about, a munaafiq who is a traitor and cannot be trusted by anyone.
            May Allah guide you to the truth.

          9. Hoping Assad eliminates these rodents doesn’t mean I support him. I would support anybody who eliminates these non humans even if it was Hilter. Its seems the only one who has a nerve hit is you. Straight away you call me an infidel because I disagree with you which proves what I said above is true. You are a disgusting individual and your interpretation of Islam and the Koran is even more disgusting. And as for Allah guiding me back, I can tell you has. Lets hope he does the same for you. I don’t hate you and you are not my enermy. Can you say the samething for yourself. Well obviously not because according to you I’m an infidel in your blind and brainwashed eyes. Which would mean majority of the world are infidels as well.

          10. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Just having a sticky beak, saudi government only enforces sharia when it wants no doubt, labelling and defaming the whole country is where you should take a breather and rethink. There are people working towards fixing this problem hissy fits are not the way of any prophet peace be upon them or any high achievers. This statement of mine i aim towards all countries not just saudi.you here of people being dealt with unjustly everywhere, sometimes you don’t and they are the countries we should be questioning.

            As for the bombings schools and religous places have been used are being used by government agencies and average people for weapon storage or hideouts. Blowing them up is the effect and consequence theorym.

          11. master09 Avatar

            People who put in the effort and obey Allah’commands, are on a high level in Allah’s eyes. Because we have faith in one god , pray regularly , ,give zakat, fast regularly, we become ready and love to meet our creator, and he loves to meet us.
            But in every religion people do what you say above.
            Half of Sydney Muslims are living other lives, drinking, watching porn, raping, STEALING and doing so many bad things that God told us ALLLLL not to do.
            I go out with some Muslim Girls who would run from Islam the minute they get a chance, dressing in a blanket in front of family and underneath wearing a dress that a striper is afraid to wear ready to show it when they walk in the CBD, I know I have pleasured many over the time.
            Muslims are not perfect, Christians are not perfect NO HUMAN IS PERFECT.
            But what you are saying clearly shows that you think DEEP INSIDE YOUR HEAD that muslims are perfect, praying or the other things that you do..
            As a Christian when I go around the world working for charity I help as my lord Jesus said EVERY HUMAN, be it Muslim, Christian, black white short tall what ever the SAME WAY..
            I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME FACTS, NAME ONE MUSLIM CHARITY THAT HELPS ANYONE ELSE BUT MUSLIMS… GOOD LUCK FINDING ONEITS LIKE FINDING A NEEDLE IN THE UNIVERSE.. A human loves all humans that is what JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVOIR SHOWED US, ALL.
            BEING A CHRISTIAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUTH GIVING YOUR LIFE TO OTHERS IS WHAT WE ALL SHOULD DO.
            Jesus came to this earth to SERVE and show the way.
            Praying and fasting is not what GOD wants, LOVE EACH OTHER AND GIVE EACH OTHER THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THIS EARTH AND THAT IS TIME, YES TIME…..
            GO HELP YOUR MAN KIND BECAUSE THAT IS BETTER THAN PRAYING ON THE FLOOR BY YOURSELF HELPING NO ONE, PEACE IN YOURSELF IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FINDING…THAT LEADS TO GOD..

          12. I suppose differences of religion is where we can agree to disagree ‘ and each practices their own freely. In the end we will find out what we did right and wrong.
            Muslims who do not practice the teaching have obviously fully assimimilated, integrated, and disintegrated into western culture . They have sold their Islam for a miserable price . Some may repent other will die unrepented. Allah guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills.
            Prayer is part of our balanced lifestyle which is being more more consumed by the beast of materialism. Allah does nt need us to pray to him, but we are in need of Allah, and through sincere prayer we may receive guidance and help remove and stay away from sin.
            The last 100 years the Muslims have lost their way, but their is a revival and uprising against secularist , materialistic system.
            In Islam we are encouraged to help people directly if possible. People closest to you first. (Family and friends). As we see existing charities take up to 60 percent I admin fees, and billions of dollars never actually reached the people the money was intended for.
            I pay this zakat once a year, and send it direct to the people. I also supplement with sadaqah in other ways as I see fit. I have also used HUMAN APPEAL INTERNATIONAL to DONATE SHEEP to poverty stricken countries .
            I’m sorry but I don’t trust UN sponsored charities , the UN has lost its credibilty,and it will take a lot for it to earn it back.

          13. master09 Avatar

            What about the thousand of church charity that help humans directly do you know how many of them are around the world. Second you talk about Muslims loosing thier way, what about the six million Muslims a year in Africa that become Christians did they loose the way or did they find Jesus and the love that shines into the heart when you look for it.
            That needle you will never find it.

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            where were you when the fires hit sydney? ill tell one thing i was fighting the fires at NO COST and majority of burnt out areas were not even muslim, whilse human appeal went down on foot with the food clothes and money. The places you call poorest suburbs and people with the “simple Minds” were there for the cause.
            so you go your way we will go ours.

          15. master09 Avatar

            Well done but you always miss the point. I am not attacking anyone but when someone says Muslims are the only people who know the way to God well that is a bit of crap, what say you about that. You go your way and I go my way shows that you missed the point completely and without thinking about what was said. I am saying Be it Muslim Christian or what ever you are we should help each other. So read again and come back and talk about fires. Wow fires I think when it comes to fires even an athiest is on his knees to help the poorest or the richest. So read again what I write.
            Let me tell you another thing you fight a fire for no cost but are you there for the next 2 years helping people put their lives back together AT NO COST.

          16. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I understood your point and btr2u’s point but you missed mine ill be more objective now that i have your attention and maybe you could do the same, we should be doing good for eachother and humanity as a whole your belief and how you do good is what you can go should go your way in doing and i will do the same my way. But there must be something mutual seeing that we both believe that our actions are needed to achieve truth justice and peace for humanity.

            Talking about peoples sharaf and who you f#ked is not part of the religion of christianity that you preach hence i rest my case

          17. master09 Avatar

            It was a point about screwing to make a point that no one is perfect be it Muslim or Christian again you missed the point. Only the judge will rest the case when we die. Than the case will rest.

          18. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You think Islam is the only true way. Guess what? Christians feel the only true way is through Jesus, Jews feel they are the only true way. And the post can go on further of people who think their way is the right way. In reality, nobody knows what is right. Live your life in peace and pray to your god, leave everyone else alone to pray to whom they wish. Leave the judging to GOD!

            Good for you and your family. There are also many stories of people leaving Islam.

            I personally hate the mentality that some Muslims have about living this life for the afterlife. Loving death more than life is a terrible mindset to have.

          19. It’s indeed depressing to even hear. This Muslim Pakistani guy I know was like yeah in heaven there’s everything, including your favorite food like Nando’s etc and the place you so much love.

            I was like yeahhhh right i’m not gonna hang around on some persian carpet biitch

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And your now-covered ‘Aussie convert’ (the former, and probably not respected well by any in the community, imperialist ) will be so happy when you send the children off to blow themselves up in one of those countries where Islamic Imperialists wish to kill all the Western Imperialists.
            Right. You understand the ‘one book’ so well.

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Man, that is so convoluted.
          Allow me a quote: ‘Into the valley of death rode the 600’ ….
          So, what’s the difference? The heat of battle always produces those who are willing to give the most they can … which usually depends on an allegiance to a concept (or leader) – even if it happens to be a bad one.
          But the 600 rode against the cannon. I doubt they would have against women and children walking in the street. Your ‘concept’ is severely flawed – even if your bomber is trying to gather his 72 virgins with him as he goes.

          The boy and the tree? William Tell. But Tell had a much better result, and didn’t cause the death of hundreds of other innocents in his fight for justice.
          And what child would not reach up to a crying mother and say ‘It’s alright Mom.’ .. while not really understanding why she cries.

          So call it ‘martyrdom operations’ if you wish. It’s still insanity.
          In this case, a collective one.
          Why push a younger fearful sister into performing it for you?? Can a woman be a martyr beyond the original meaning of the word: ‘witness’? I guess if they have stooped to that level of age there could be a few virginal boys ‘up there’. They have killed them too.
          And in 2014, there is NO justification.

          1. Not everyone is brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice for God, especially atheists. And If you read my previous posts, I condemn to hell the intentional killing of innonence. All morality and laws stem from GODS laws, so we have to question how and why do you determine what is right and wrong. And do these views change. Eg . Homosexuality was filthy and wrong a few decades ago, but now it is all good. Why did this change .
            Our minds are limited and make mistakes which we are always correcting, so we must trust GOD’ s laws which don’t change.
            Morality is based on pleasing our creator, so if you believe we are nothing more than an accident in time, then what is your incentive to do good.
            What is your opinion on this.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, there’s several different subjects ……
            Your 1st question must begin by asking ‘why’ humans ‘believe’ – FIRST.
            And do you really believe an ‘atheist’ can’t believe in something? Would not die for a ‘love’ for instance? Is there not some ‘passion’ in all humans? Has it been only ‘Muslims’ who know the ‘personal’ odds against their actions in any given circumstance – especially in wars?
            ‘For God’, many have knelt and prayed while being killed – en mass sometimes.
            The ‘belief’ was so strong in the Samurai, that he would commit Sepaku – not always with ‘assistance’; and in history, also ‘en mass’ if ordered to.
            What, indeed, IS ‘belief’? Can you trust yourself to seek the answer?

            You admit “minds are limited and make mistakes which we are always correcting”. Can you open yours a little to admit that, in the course of human history, this has always been the case? Tell me why ‘correction’ is locked into the words written by humans of one tiny period of time 2000 or so years ago, and is now considered the ‘ultimate correction’ – a FINITE line of thought?
            Do you really ‘believe’ you are using all the brain-cells you have, and they are stuffed full of the ‘ultimate knowledge’ in a few written words, because the cranium has not yet expanded enough to allow the ‘corrections’?

            And if, AS WE SEE, there are no two of us identically formed in that cavity, how can you expect ‘ALL’ to follow ONE line of thought (or belief) the same way?

            Can you forget the expansive prose of the humans and be simplistic?
            ‘God’s Law’ is the Physics of the Universe. ‘Morality’ is from the human. AND it changes, as you say, with the brains in expanding craniums – which found that as a species, survival of the physically weakest animals relied on ‘social’ living – banding together against all the odds to REPRODUCE – which IS the natural desire of all life on the planet since the amoeba.
            Considering that ‘we believe’ there was ‘creation’, WHY would ‘God’ simply not stop humans from developing the larger brain before they began to ‘socialize’ and thus make ‘theories’ of morality in their little bands, which then guided them to stomp off and kill the next ‘social band’ of humans who had a different ‘culture’; usually because their natural surroundings and methods of surviving in it ‘allowed’ for a different ‘style’ of life.
            As we KNOW now, killing all the other band was not a good idea. Mixing it up produced a more capable species – and today we understand why, with blood and genetic knowledge – although first humans just did it naturally by swopping mates on occasion.

            Nobody, and certainly not fully cognizant ‘homosexuals’, will tell you that homosexual desires are ‘good’ for a species, but the word ‘Wrong’ didn’t come from a god. Whoever told you that it is all ‘good’ now??
            BUT since they were born through no fault of their own, and are part of the human experience, and a part of life on the planet, WHY should they not have ‘equality’ in the social groupings under the laws humans create for those? (One of those biggies, as we know, being – ‘Thou shall not kill’.)

            Ah yes, why would I have incentive to ‘do good’ – or indeed do anything – since the ‘accident’ of two humans reproducing put me here? OR, why would I bother running around killing people since I know I’m going to die anyway? Such a waste of time and energy, after all. I should have just laid there and chewed grass for the lifetime – which would have allowed me to say I followed all God’s laws, right? Sounds realistic. Doesn’t it?
            REALLY, if I was born in Hawaii, it could indeed be possible to be THAT ‘godly’. It’s a garden of Eden for the picking. Those people certainly were until the ‘mix from the East’ landed on them – and except for a ‘belief’ they needed to feed a fair maiden to a volcano on occasion to keep a God quiet, they lived well and large. (Ah, again, the downtrodden women. Males always powerful? But Hawaii had a QUEEN too. And there was ‘honour’ in the ‘single’ sacrifice.)
            I HAVE a choice. I make MY decisions. I ENJOY life. I am amazed constantly by it. I added to an expanding gene pool. I did it all in your ‘Godly’ way – without the same ‘moralities’ holding me back – and like to think I contributed to ‘the society’. I’ve been happy in the ‘accident’ most of the time, until I see what ‘other’ humans can do with their ‘beliefs’ and the lesser genetic codes they will never ‘confess’ to having – even if I proved it to them. I recognize I am not in the upper ranges of it either. It is ALL a wonder, this thing we humans call ‘life’ – I would like to see the advances of 2000 more years – but I know I will not.
            I’m not about to blow myself up in grief over that.
            (as much as some might like me to …)

          3. Hi 5th I hope you are well.
            Thanks for sharing your thoughts,.and you have some interesting points.
            But going on the belief on those self concocted theories you came to the conclusion of , you have no incentive to believe in god and do good since you are going to die and become dust , without being judged or being held accountable.
            So if that’s the case, what purpose are you here for other than experiencing as much personal sensations as you can before you die and become permanent dust.
            If you believe in God you will find we have purpose to fulfill,
            All of us and u have an equal responsibility. That responsibility is to listen with an open heart and an open mind. In a world filled with prejudice and cultural conditioning, it is very hard to be able to find people to take a moment to think about life objectively and try to arrive at the truth about this world and the real purpose of our lives.

            Unfortunately, when you ask most people the question: “What is the purpose of life?” (such a fundamental and important question), they will not tell you what they have concluded through observation or analytical reasoning. Rather, in most cases, they will simply tell you what someone else said, or they will tell you what is “commonly presumed” by others, i.e., What my father said purpose of life is, what the minister of my church said the purpose of life is, what my teacher in school said, what my friend said, etc. If I ask anyone about the purpose of eating or why do we eat, everyone will say [in one word or another] that it is for nutritional purposes, because nutrition sustains life. If I ask anyone why they work, they will say because it’s a necessity in order to support themselves and to provide for the needs of their families. If I ask anyone why they sleep, why they wash, why they dress, etc., they will answer with appropriate answers, for these are common necessities for all human beings. We can follow this line of questioning with a hundred questions and receive the same or similar answers from anyone in any language from any place in the world.

            Then I ask you the question: Why, when we ask the question, “What is the goal and purpose of life?” that we get many different answers? It is because people are confused; they don’t really know. They are stumbling in the dark, and rather than say, “I don’t know”; they just offer any answer they have been programmed to give. Think about it. Is our purpose in this world simply to eat, sleep, dress, work, acquire some material things and enjoy ourselves? Is this our purpose? Why are we born? What is the object of our existence? What is the wisdom behind the creation of man and this tremendous universe? Think about those questions.

            Here I would like to mention a few verses from the Holy Quran that address this subject. We seek the protection of Allah from every evil thing. Allah mentions to us in the Holy Quran, “And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and Allah is over all things competent. Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding-Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth, [saying], “Our Lord, You did not create this aimlessly; exalted are You [above such a thing]; then protect us from the punishment of the Fire.” Surah 3: Ayahs 189-191

            Now here in these verses, Allah draws our attention to the creation of the heavens and earth, the alternation of the night and the day, the creation of the universe. HE calls our attention to their creation and their precision, and mentions those who contemplate the wonders of creation and realize that this was not created for any foolish purpose, [that Allah is exalted above doing such a thing] and they seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of Hell. Truly, when you see the design of all that Allah created, you realize it is very powerful and very precise. Something very powerful and very precise; something beyond your own calculation and imagination, cannot be foolish.

            My dear respected brothers and sisters, we have to ask ourselves a further question. When you see a bridge, a building or an automobile, you automatically consider the person or company that constructed it. When you see a large ship, an airplane, a rocket, a satellite; you also think about how incredible it is. [You know by its design who the maker is.] When you see a super international airport, nuclear plant or an orbiting space station you have to be thoroughly impressed with the engineering dynamics that are involved. Yet, these are just things that are manufactured by human beings. So what about the human body with its massive and intricate control systems? Think about it.

            Think about the brain: how it thinks, functions, analyzes, retrieves and stores information, as well as distinguishes and categorizes information in a millionth of a second, all of this constantly.

            Think about the brain for a moment. (And don’t forget the fact that you are using your brain to consider itself!) This is the brain that made the automobile, the rocket ships, the boats, and so on. Think about the brain and who made that!

            Think about the heart. Think about how it pumps continuously for sixty or seventy years [taking in and discharging blood throughout the body] maintaining steady precision throughout the life of the person.

            Think about the kidneys and the liver and the various functions they perform. The purifying instruments of the body that perform hundreds of chemical analyses simultaneously and also controls the level of toxicity in the content of the body. All of these are done automatically.

            Think about your eyes, the human cameras, that adjust, focus, interpret, evaluate, discern color automatically, naturally receiving and adjusting to light and distance.

            Think about it-Who created them? Who has mastered their design and function? Who plans and regulates their function? Human beings do this? No, of course not. What about this universe?

            Think about this. This earth is one planet in our solar system, and our solar system is one [of possible many] solar systems. Our galaxy, The Milky Way, is one of the galaxies. There are ONE HUNDRED MILLION GALAXIES in the universe. They are all in order and they are all precise. They are not colliding with each other. They are not conflicting with on another. They are swimming along in an orbit that has been set for them. Did human beings set that into motion and are human beings maintaining that precision? No, of course not.

            Think about the oceans, the fish, the insects, the birds, the plants, bacteria, and chemical elements that have not yet been discovered and cannot be detected even with the most sophisticated instruments. Yet each of them has a law that they follow. Did all of this synchronization, balance, harmony, variation, design, maintenance, operation and infinite numeration happen all by chance? Do these things function perfectly and perpetually also by chance? No, of course not. That would be totally illogical and foolish. In the least, it indicates that however it came to exist-it exists beyond the realm of human capability. We will all agree to that. The Being, The Almighty Power, God, The Creator who has the knowledge to design and proportion created all of this and is responsible for maintaining it. HE is the only one that deserves praise and gratitude.

            If I were to give each one of you one hundred dollars for no reason, just for being here, you would at least say thank you. What about your eyes, your kidneys, your brain, your children, and your life: Who gave you all of that? Is He not worthy of praise and thanks? Is He not worthy of your worship and recognition?

            My brothers and sisters, that in a nutshell, is the goal and purpose of this life. Allah said to us in the Holy Quran: “And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.” [Surah 51: Ayah 56] this is what the Almighty said.

            Our purpose in this life is to recognize The Creator, to be grateful to Him, to worship Him, to surrender ourselves to Him and to obey the laws that He has determined for us. It means worship is our purpose in life. Whatever we do in the course of that worship, [i.e., the eating, the sleeping, the dressing, the working, the enjoying,] between birth and death is consequential and subject to His orders. But the main reason for our creation is worship. I don’t think anyone who is analytical or scientific will have much of an argument with that purpose. They may have some other reason with themselves-but that is something they have to deal with between themselves and Almighty God.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            oops … from Btru2u … a reply … hmmm …
            “So if that’s the case, what purpose are you here for other than experiencing as much personal sensations as you can before you die and become permanent dust.”
            Maybe, Btru2u, I have found my ‘purpose’ finally. Putting MY thoughts into YaLibnan. Without always quoting those ancient texts. 😉 And If I was ‘worshipping’ all the time I wouldn’t have time for this anyway.
            (Can’t say that ‘blogging’ is always pleasant sensations … something like trying to stand on the knees all the time … but then he would say ‘Humans Must Always Suffer’ … And I had enough of that with at least one idiot ‘boss’ who interfered, with work I enjoyed to do well, because he needed to feel ‘superior’ even if it cost him lost production to aggravate me.)

            Allow me to say, I like your last line … and agree … “that is something they have to deal with between themselves and Almighty God.” And if as you say ‘those self concocted theories’ are wrong, then I will find out eventually. I don’t particularly enjoy having the others stuffed down my throat to silence me, nor to see other people being wiped out by ‘mad bombers’ (the origin of the discussion) because some personal freedom is considered ‘naughty’ in their version of God’s eye – which appears to be the ROOT cause of all the stupidity (insanity) going on. I will never believe ‘a God’ wants that – no matter what you call him. If I did, I’d punch him in that eye.

          5. Allah knows the intentions and actions of each individual, so it’s not up to me to judge the ” martyrs.” But is easy to distinguish between the provoked and the defender, the good and the evil. There is no blame on the oppressed for retaliating with the intention of the greater good.
            I’m glad you have found your purpose and meaning in your life with YA LIBNAN.
            It’s your choice to follow the perfected system or go through a trial and error process that could take you , …GOD knows where.
            Good luck with that….

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hahahaha … 😉 Cheers. 🙂

          7. man-o-war Avatar

            Why has God created us? If the sole purpose is to worship him, it makes no sense. He created us just to worship him. Why? God needed to reaffirm superiority over his creation? How does that make any sense? Why create the human race, the earth, the heavens and so on to do this?

            Do you believe all our actions are predetermined by God? That God knows exactly what we will do and how we’ll behave because God has written it. Then why would God let that sadistic maniac rape and murder his five year old? Would God have decided thats how that five year old was to live her life? Is God playing a game with us?

          8. Mohammed (PBUH) (was the role model of the perfect human life). And his life was balanced.
            Spending time nourishing our mind (learning), body(work ,good food and exercise) , and soul (prayer and or contemplation/ meditation )is the secret to work life balance and will help us achieve happiness and contentment in life. Many People currently sacrifice their health to make money, then they sacrifice their money to recuperate their health, then they Are so anxious about the future that they do not enjoy the present; the result being they do not live in the present or the future; they live as if they are never going to die, and then die having never really lived.”
            God is not playing a game with us .he is hurling , good and evil, truth and falsehood against each other. We are all being tested in these catogeries, and the rewards and punishments are with God , all from the fruits our bodies and souls have produced with our free will to choose.
            Alhamdullilah I know the difference.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oy Vay … such a ‘role model’ I should try to be. 😉
            BUT Now it sounds like ‘Zen’ … and we know Buddhists were around longer.
            Are you certain it all downloaded from those damn Hebrews?? :-))))))

      2. I’m a forgiving bloke , so I hope Alkah guides you to the truth and forgives your history of hateful comments to the Muslims.
        I hope you will one day experience the contentment and happiness that a Muslim life brings to the soul.
        Unfortunately not all of us can forgive under extreme circumstances , and there is no blame on them if they seek retribution.
        May we all learn to get along , and bring light to the world.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          I have no hate for Muslims, but I do hate terrorists who hijack the religion to justify their heinous crimes against humanity. I don’t need or want your forgiveness, maybe you should save that for the innocent people that get caught in the middle of your “martyrdom operations” aka suicide bombings.

          “May we all learn to get along”, why would any sane person want to get along with someone who loves death more than life?

        2. ...some guy Avatar
          …some guy

          Respect and admiration for your stand on forgiveness!

          1. Nelson Mandela has left a recent legacy that I hope the world could learn from .
            Thanks for the kind Gesture,

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, let’s then agree Mandela also learned something along with ‘the world’- which wasn’t written in a book related to his immediate problems.

    2. libnan1 Avatar

      If the American were as kuffar as you think, they would have wiped Iraq and Afghanistan of the face of the earth. They were playing paddy cake with these people because of the innocent people these terrorists were hiding behind. So count yourself luck that they were not kuffar.

  2. This was supposed to be a simple victory for the superpower. The mujahideen had other ideas . Their martyrdom operations and IED’s have inflicted massive damaged to the invaders. They have turned this war on its head , and sent the western economy into a financial crisis.
    The war in Iraq was turned on its head by the martyrdom operations under the leadership of Shaykh Abu Mussab Al-Zarqawi (RA). It is said that the American soldiers used to shiver when they heard that they were heading to Iraq to face Abu Mussab Al- Zarqawi! Similar was the case with the martyrdom operations under Mulla Dadullah (RA) in Afghanistan. The reality, as stated before is that the world of Kufr does not possess an answer to this weapon of the Muslims. Therefore, the Muslims have learnt this weapon of war, cherished it and are utilising it to the maximum effect to destroy the false might of the Kuffar. The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life. They view this world merely as a passing amusement as their Prophet r said: “Live in this world as if you were a traveller…”

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      “The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life”, and there lies the major problem with you terrorists. You don’t love life as much as you love death. I guess even a super power can’t fix stupid. Can you go blow yourself up now? Also, until that moment happens can you please wear a condom when you sleep with your child bride. Thanks, from the rest of the sane world that loves life.

      1. What is Suicide Bombing?

        “A Suicide bombing can be defined as a group or an individual inflicting harm upon their perceived targets by way of taking their own lives in a military operation.” This can take the form of binding explosives to ones’ own body or to an attached equipment or vehicle and then detonating it in a suitable area to inflict harm upon the target. In these operations, the committer is almost certain to lose his life, hence the labeling of “suicide”.

        Now, the term suicide is generally used to refer to the act of taking one’s own life due to discontentment, isolation or otherwise. Suicide is generally considered something blameworthy. Islam, however, has shown us that suicide results when a person runs away from the Commands of Allah and when his relationship with Allah ﷻ deteriorates. Allah, The Exalted Says:

        “But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Quran nor acts on its orders, etc.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.” [20:124] So, whoever turns away from the Religion of Allah, His Quran and the teachings of His Prophet , then he will have a life of hardship – whether he realizes it or not. The Kafir or Mushrik who does not believe in Allah, or associates someone else as a partner with Him, has no connection with Allah and therefore, when hardship comes upon him because of his sin or otherwise, he sees nowhere to go and sees little meaning with his life in this world. So he takes his own life. As for a Muslim committing suicide then the reasons for these are somewhat the same – discontent with the Decree of Allah and insufficient faith.

        The Islamic Ruling on Suicide

        Shaykh Abdul Hakeem (HA) writes:

        “The curse of Allah is upon the person who commits suicide. His abode is Hellfire. Allah is Displeased with him. The one who commits suicide does so because of impatience, and despair of the mercy of Allah. Either he lacks faith or his faith is non-existent. He kills himself without a Shar’ai purpose e.g. anger or illness or due to loss of honor etc. None of these reasons have anything to do with raising the Word of Allah.

        Abu Huraira d narrates, “We were in Khyber when the Prophet  said about a person that he is from the people of Hellfire, even though he claimed to be a Muslim. When the time for the battle came, he fought bravely. When he endured severe wounds, the people were close to doubting (his destiny). (But) When he started feeling the pain from his wounds, he took out an arrow from his quiver and killed himself with it. This was hard upon the Muslims. They said, ‘O Prophet of Allah r! Your words proved true. That man committed suicide.’ He  said: “Declare that only the believer will go to Paradise. But the help of this religion is taken from even the corrupt.” [Bukhari, Muslim, Ahmad]

        … Abu Huraira d narrates that the Prophet  said: “Whoever kills himself by strangling then he will be strangled in the Hellfire. Whoever kills himself by a sword or a dagger then he will be sentenced to the same punishment in Hellfire.”

        There are a lot of Hadith to this effect. The scholars are unanimously agreed on the prohibition of suicide. The one who commits suicide commits a major sin. If he considers it permissible then he will remain forever in Hellfire. If he does not consider it permissible, then he will remain for a long time in Hellfire but not forever. Allah The Exalted Said:

        “… And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire, and that is easy for Allah.” [4:29-30]”1

        It is clear from the above discussion that suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam. What entails from that is that “suicide bombing” is not suicide according to Islam because, as we will see, Islam extols the martyrdom operation.

        So martyrdom operation ≠ Suicide bombing

        So, from now on, we will refer to these operations as “martyrdom operations” instead of “suicide bombings” which is a false term.

        The Islamic Ruling on Martyrdom Operations

        There are many evidences in the Quran, Sunnah and the sayings of the truthful scholars that indicate the legitimacy of the martyrdom operation.

        Allah Says: “And amongst mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the Pleasure of Allah. And Allah is full of Sympathy to (His) slaves.” [2:207]

        Imam Ibn Kathir said in the explanation of this verse: “The majority of the scholars of Tafsir hold that this verse was sent down regarding every Mujahid in the Path of Allah… and when Hisham ibn ‘Amir d plunged into the enemy ranks, some of the people objected to this. So, Umar bin Khattab d and Abu Hurayra d recited this verse.” [Tafsir ibn Kathir 1/216]
        Hisham ibn ‘Amir d plunged into the enemy ranks knowing full well that he would almost certainly die as a result of this just as the case is with the martyrdom operations. So, Umar ibn Khattab d and Abu Hurayra d approved of the act…

        Imam Muslim narrated in his Sahih on the authority of Abu Bakr bin Musa d that he said: “I heard Abu Hurayra d in the presence of the enemy saying, “The Prophet  said, “The gates of Paradise are beneath the shade of swords!”. A heavily built man then stood up and said, “O Abu Musa! You heard the Messenger of Allah  say this?” He said, “Yes!” Then the man returned to his comrades and said, “I give my Salam to you”. Then he broke his sheathe and walked with his sword into the enemy and attacked them until he was killed.”

        Imam Muslim also narrated in his Sahih the Hadith of Anas ibn Malik d in the story of the Battle of Badr: “The polytheists (now) advanced (towards us), and the Messenger of Allah  said: “Get up to enter Paradise, the width of which is equal to the heavens and the earth.” Umair bin Al-Humam Al-Ansari d said: “Messenger of Allah  Is Paradise equal in extent to the heavens and the earth?” He  said: “Yes.” Umair d said: “Good, Good!” The Messenger of Allah  asked him, “What prompted you to utter these words (i.e. good, good!)?” He replied, “Messenger of Allah ! Nothing but the desire that I be among its residents” He  said: “You are (surely) among its residents.” Then Umair d took out dates from his bag and began to eat them. Then he said, “If I were to live until I have eaten all these dates of mine, it would be a long life.” (The narrator said): “He threw away all the dates he had with him and fought the enemies until he was killed.”

        In both these narrations, the Sahaba who carried out the attacks almost certainly knew that they were going to be killed during their operations but they still carried them out and such acts were extolled and praised in the Shariah.

        In Mustadrak Al-Hakim, it is narrated that a man came to the Messenger of Allaah  and said: “How do you see it if I were to throw myself into the midst of the polytheists and fight them until I was killed? Would I go to Paradise? “He  replied: “Yes.” So the man threw himself into the midst of the pagans and fought until he was killed.

        This Hadith is also another clear evidence of the legality of martyrdom operations which involve plunging oneself into the midst of the enemy to cause them harm.

        Imam Ahmad t narrated in his Musnad from Ibn Mas’ud d that the Prophet  said, “Our Lord wonders at two men: a man who stirs from his bed… to Prayer… and a man who raids in the Path of Allah and his companions are defeated, and he realizes what awaits him in defeat and (what) awaits him in returning (to combat) – but he returns (to combat) until his blood is spilled. Allah Says: “Look at my servant! He went back (to combat) hopeful and anxious for that which is with Me, until his blood was spilled.”

        The man who goes back to combat knows fully well before his operation that he will die but Allah Welcomes his deed and praises his action!

        Mua’th ibn ‘Afra d asked the Messenger of Allah : “What makes Allah Laugh upon His slave?” He  replied, “The slave immersing himself into the army without armor.” Mu’ath d then took off his armor and fought until he was killed.

        Glory be to Allah! What would be the status of the one upon whom Allah ﷻ Laughs?

        Imam Qurtubi d said: “I heard that when the army of Muslims met the Persians, the horses of the Muslims fled fearing the Persian elephants. One of them (the Muslims) made an elephant out of clay and made his horse familiar with it (so that it wouldn’t get scared seeing a completely new creature). The next day, his horse did not run from the elephant, so he attacked the elephant that was leading. He was told ‘It will certainly kill you’. He said, ‘No grief, that I die and the Muslims win’”

        … And there are a lot Ahadith and events narrated in the texts similar to the above. These clearly illustrate that the Shariah considers it highly rewarding for a person to sacrifice his life for the sake of Allah with the complete surety that the person’s attack will result in his death as in the case of the martyrdom operation if there is considerable benefit in it for Islam and the Muslims. The martyrdom operation is a modern technique that is similar to the case of the Sahaba plunging themselves into the enemy ranks with a sure probability of death. The only difference between the two is that in the martyrdom operation, the operative causes his own death while in the case of the incidents mentioned earlier, the operative is killed by the enemy. But the scholars state that this does not make a difference since the intention (to raise High the Word of Allah etc.) and the outcome (death) is similar in both cases. And what matters is the intention. Furthermore, the following evidence provides the final verdict in the matter:

        What is stated as the strongest proof of killing oneself for the sake of the uplifting of the religion of Allah is the story of the Boy and the Cave in the Battle of the Ditch. The story has been narrated in Sahih Muslim. The full Hadith can be looked at from the source. We will quote here the part that concerns us. As a summary, in the previous nations, a king was persecuting a boy on account of his faith in Islam. He tried several ways to kill the boy, like trying to throw him from the top of a mountain or drowning him in the ocean… but the boy would supplicate to Allah to save him and he would be saved. Finally, it comes in the narration:

        “… He (the boy) said to the King: “You will not be able to kill me until you do what I say!” (The King) said: “What is that?” He replied, “Gather all the people on a single plain and tie me to a (tree) trunk. Then take an arrow from my quiver and place it in the middle of the bow and say, ‘In the Name of Allah, The Lord of the boy!’, then shoot me. If you do that, you will (be able to) kill me.” So, the King gathered all the people in a single plain and tied him to a (tree) trunk. He then took an arrow from his quiver, placed it in the middle of the bow and said, “In the Name of Allah! The Lord of the boy” and fired the arrow. The arrow hit the boy’s temple. He placed his hand on his temple and then died. So the people said, “We believe in the Lord of the boy… we believe in the Lord of the boy.”

        The King was then told, “Do you see what you feared? By Allah! That which you feared has happened! The people have believed (in the Lord of the boy).” So, the King ordered for ditches (to be dug) at the junctions of all the roads. When they were dug, fires were lit in them and the King said, “Whoever does not renounce his religion, then throw him in the fire or tell them to jump into it.” So this was what happened until a woman came carrying a baby and she hesitated to jump into the fire, so the child spoke to her, “O Mother! Have patience for you are upon the truth!”

        It is clear from this Hadith that the boy caused his own killing so that the people would accept Islam and be saved from the Hellfire. Therefore, such a deed is not considered suicide in the Shariah. Rather, it is considered as one of the most praiseworthy actions.

        It is also proven here that just as the boy caused his own death for the sake of Islam, it is also permissible for the martyrdom operative to cause his own death if there is a valid benefit of Islam involved (as determined by the Scholars and Mujahideen). If someone were to say that the boy did not kill himself by his own hands as the martyrdom operative does, then the scholars have replied to this that a person who commits suicide by his own hands or by, say, telling another person to shoot him would get the same legal verdict applied to him. So, the method of killing does not matter; rather what is crucial is
        the Decree of Allah etc. in the case of suicide) Similarly, it does not matter whether the martyrdom seeker kills himself by his own hands or by the hands of the enemy as long as the intention is valid i.e. to Raise High the Word of Allah and to establish Islam, terrorize the Kuffar etc… And Allah Knows Best…

        And this is why martyrdom operations are allowed because they constitute sacrificing one’s life for raising high the Word of Allah, spreading His Religion, terrorizing His enemies and encouraging His slaves (i.e. Muslims) to fight.

        As a summary, we will mention some of the views of the Scholars regarding a single man plunging into the ranks of the Kuffar, just as the case is with the martyrdom operation:

        The Scholarly Verdicts

        From the Hanafi school of Law, Imam Muhammad ibn Hassan Ash-Shaibani said in the book As-Seer Al-Kabir: “If one person attacks 1000 polytheists, there is nothing wrong with this if there is hope of success or infliction of loss upon the enemy; otherwise, it is disliked for then he would expose himself to death without having benefitted the Muslims. As for someone whose aim is to incite the Muslims to emulate his feat, then its permissibility is not far-fetched for it contains benefit for the Muslims in certain ways. If his intent is to terrorize the enemy and demonstrate the Muslims’ strength of faith then its permissibility is not far-fetched if there is benefit in it for the religion. Giving one’s life for strengthening the religion and weakening the infidels is a Noble Status that Allah Has Praised the Believers with in His Statement:

        “Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise…” [9:111]2

        One of the Maliki scholars – Ibn Al-Khuwaiz Miqdad – said : “And as for the person who attacks 100 or a unit of an army, or a group of thieves and fighters, or the Khawarij3 then there are two probabilities: ‘If he knows it probable that he will kill those he attacks and get saved then this is better. And if he knows it probable that he will get killed but will cause great harm (to the enemy) or benefit to the Muslims, then this is permissible too.”4

        From the Shafi’ school of Fiqh, Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani stated : “As for the matter of one person attacking a larger number of the enemy, then the consensus is that if it is done to show courage to terrify the enemy and encourage the Muslims against them or a similar intention to this, then it is good. And when it is done out of mere rashness, the nit is not allowed, especially if it causes weakness in the Muslims.”5

        Of the Hanbali school, Ibn Taymiyyah stated: “The four scholars have declared permissible the plunging in the rows of the polytheists even if it is probable that they will kill him, if it is beneficial for the Muslims.”6

        2. Tafsir Al-Qurtubi (364/2)

        3. A sect that differed away from mainstream Islam

        4. Tafsir Al-Qurtubi (363/2)

        5. Fath-ul-Bari (8/185-186)

        6. Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah (28/540)

        From all these evidences, it is clear that martyrdom operations are firmly backed by evidences from the Islamic Shariah. And they are one of the greatest means of gaining the approval of Allah, The Exalted. As stated by the scholars, the martyrdom operations are allowed if there is considerable benefit in it for Islam and the Muslim Ummah. The Mujahideen have utilized these operations in various battlefields – from Afghanistan to Iraq and various contemporary scholars of all schools of thought have clarified their legality.

        Contemporary Verdicts

        Now, we will quote some statements of the contemporary scholars in favor of the martyrdom operation:

        Mufti Abu Bashar Al-Qasmi (HA) of the Indian subcontinent, author of one of the best books on the subject entitled, “Islam and the Martyrdom Operations” writes:

        “(From the incident of the people of the Ditch) We came to know that the boy arranged for his own killing by ordering the King to kill him. If the boy neither ordered nor told the King the way to kill him, the King wouldn’t have been able to do so. It is also clear from this that it is allowed to kill oneself through others if the purpose is to uplift the religion. Similarly, it is also allowed to kill oneself for the honor of the religion – just as the people of the Ditch threw themselves into the fire by their own free will. Even the woman who was hesitating to jump into the fire was encouraged by her baby who spoke by the Will of Allah, “Oh mother! Have patience for you are upon the truth!”. After this, the mother threw herself into the fire and earned the status of martyrdom.

        Similarly, if one is killed by another’s hand, then this makes no difference – for example an individual attacking a large army by himself.

        All these people are martyrs, worthy of praise… All of them have been praised. This is because they did these “suicide” attacks because of the benefit and uplifting of the religion. And whatever act is done for the sake of benefit of the religion and raising high the Word of Islam, then that is a pious act.

        It can be deduced from this that if someone kills himself for the uplifting of the religion, or if he immerses himself into the ranks of the Kuffar and they kill him, or if he orders others to kill him for the sake of the benefit and honor of the religion… All these have the same ruling… There is no difference between them. They are all martyrs…”

        [Islam and Martyrdom Operations: Pg. 164-165]

        In another place, he writes after citing some evidences:

        “It can be deduced from this that those people who carry out the martyrdom operation in obedience to Allah ﷻ and in the struggle of Jihad and get killed as a result, then they are martyrs. It is utterly wrong to doubt their martyrdom or their admission to Paradise. When the tongue of Prophethood  has borne witness to their martyrdom, then there is no room for any Ummati to express an opinion contrary to that of his Prophet .” [Pg. 168]

        Shaykh Sulayman Al-Ulwan (HA) of the Arabian Peninsula writes:

        “And I see that in this time, in which the Muslims are unable to (fully) fight the Jews and destroy them and expel them from the Holy Land, then the best treatment and the greatest medicine that we apply to the brothers of monkeys and pigs (i.e. the Jews) is that we perform these martyrdom operations, and put forward our souls as a sacrifice for the motivation of faith, and for (other) praiseworthy goals, such as planting terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve , inflicting damage upon their bodies and causing loss to their wealth.”

        He (HA) then comments on the story of the people of the Ditch and says:

        “So in this, there is evidence for the correctness of these martyrdom operations that the Mujahideen in the Path of Allah perform against the Jews, Christians and those who make mischief in the earth.”

        [The Islamic Ruling on the Permissibility of Self-Sacrificial Operations: Pg. 53-54]

        The Intellectual Evidence

        For a Muslim, the evidence of the Quran and Sunnah is sufficient to cleanse his heart regarding the legality of any matter. Allah’s Book and His Messenger’s  Sunnah represent the final ordinance that may be used to judge the permission or prohibition of any matter. However, it is allowed in the Shariah to narrate intellectual evidences that conform to the primary source of legislation (i.e. Quran and Sunnah). And so, we will take a general look at why martyrdom operations are performed by the Mujahideen from an empirical standpoint.
        To say that the current war that is being fought between Islam and Kufr is one-sided (from a worldly perspective) is an understatement to say the least. On the one hand are the 40+ NATO allies with their heavy air, land and sea weaponry, latest gadgets and state-of-the-art equipment. They have their B-52’s, daisy cutters and Apaches that can destroy entire populations within a short span of time along with a number of soldiers that seems unmatchable. They have nukes at hand to erase generations of human beings. At the head of this unholy alliance is a country whose defense budget exceeds the revenues of some entire countries that exist on the same planet. Then, these 40+ countries have as their trustworthy allies the apostate leadership of the so-called “Muslim” countries, complete with their armies, logistics and intelligence…

        On the other side, there are the plain and simple people who do not possess the reins of any country. They are not leaders over vast areas of lands, nor do they command the politics or economics of any sizeable region. Their weaponry is basic – small firearms, IEDs’ and limited heavy weaponry. Their sources of income are the charities that are given by their fellow brothers in faith and the booty that they acquire waging war. Their number is limited, their abodes are mountains and their style is guerilla.

        But they have Allah on their side… And they will be granted victory because they do not disobey the One in Whose Hands is the Dominion of the Heavens and the Earth…

        “That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord. Thus does Allah set forth their parables for mankind.” [47:3]

        And blessed are the meek

        For they shall inherit the world

        But what are the means that they utilized to achieve this victory?

        The reality of the martyrdom operations is that they have turned this war on its head. A Mujahid can strap on explosives to his body or vehicle and explode it in the middle of a large gathering of the enemy and with the loss of just one life, huge losses to the enemy can be inflicted. The truth is that the martyrdom operations have turned this war at its head. The Americans who were flexing their muscles at the innocent Muslims of Afghanistan after 2001 are now being seen asking for talks and trying desperately to find a way out of this war. The effect of 9/11 bears witness to this! 19 determined men changed the course of history with one superb effort. They caused almost irreparable losses to the Kuffar’s economy and destroyed the years of planning they had done to colonize the world…

        Then, the war in Iraq was turned on its hand by the martyrdom operations under the leadership of Shaykh Abu Mussab Al-Zarqawi (RA). It is said that the American soldiers used to shiver when they heard that they were heading to Iraq to face Abu Mussab Al- Zarqawi! Similar was the case with the martyrdom operations under Mulla Dadullah (RA) in Afghanistan. The reality, as stated before is that the world of Kufr does not possess an answer to this weapon of Muslims. Therefore, the Muslims must learn this weapon of war, cherish it and utilize it to the maximum effect to destroy the false might of the Kuffar. The true Muslims love death as the Kuffar love life. They view this world merely as a passing amusement as their Prophet r said: “Live in this world as if you were a traveller…”

        In Conclusion

        All the false propaganda against martyrdom operations is a farce because the operations have their basis in the Shariah. The Muslims of the world must not look to the media or the public opinion when deciding the legality of any issue but they should look at the Shariah – the brilliant, clear Shariah which holds the light to salvation for them in this world and the next.

        So, therefore, as a conclusion it can be said that the term “suicide bombing” is inaccurate. Rather, “martyrdom operations” are one of the greatest of praiseworthy acts in the Shariah if they are carried out according to their conditions, under the guidance of pious Scholars and Mujahideen. We ask Allah to show us the truth as truth and enable us to follow it and to show us falsehood as falsehood and enable us to abstain from it…And our final word is that All Praise is to Allah, The Lord of the Worlds…

        1. master09 Avatar

          BLA BLA BLA like man o war said put a condom on, where is up to you. lol

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Hang on I need to throw up again, can you see the pattern developing.

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          You spew all that garbage to tell me that Allah blesses “martyrdom operations” aka suicide bombings. What a waste of space you are. Your brilliant clear shariah that is used to rule Saudia Arabia (kingdom of pedophiles and suicide bombers) gave a man (Fayhan al-Ghamdi) 8 years in prison (only after widespread condemnation) for raping, torturing , and murdering his five year old daughter because the psycho questioned her virginity. He raped her in every hole she had, poor young innocent child. You and your sharia law are garbage and should be disposed of in the trash bin of history.

          Like I said before, you need to book a one way ticket out of Australia to Syria and strap some holy bombs to your body and send yourself to hell. I pray to Allah that he hasn’t let you breed yet.

          1. I seem to have struck a nerve which has enraged you man o war. The fact is there is a war on for the emergence of an Islamic empire. And war my friend is not freindly and not clean like old times. There is no more valour in war. The imperialist do not fight fair, so all is now fair I love and war.
            Pious Muslims spend their whole lives working for God and preparing for death and the hereafter, People who put in the effort and obey Allah’commands, are on a high level in Allah’s eyes. Because we have faith in one god , pray regularly , ,give zakat, fast regularly, we become ready and love to meet our creator, and he loves to meet us. People who disobey god and transgress beyond bounds in sin hate to meet their creator , and he dislike meeting them. So they cling to they remain of their short life and have hateful eny to thebeliever,
            Allah says in the Quran 3:119
            You are such (frank, clear-hearted) people that you love them (even those who are enemies to you), but they do not love you; and you believe in the whole of the Book (without making any distinction between the verses, and believe in all of the God-revealed Books). When they meet you they say (hypocritically), “We believe;” but when they find themselves alone, they gnaw their fingers in rage against you. Say (to them, O Messenger): “Perish in your rage!” Assuredly, God has full knowledge of what lies hidden in the bosoms. ” it looks like the quran have proved true once again.

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I guess no you’re not going to comment on the Muslim man sentenced to eight years for raping and murdering his five year old child, in a justice system run by Sharia law? Its okay, keep your head buried in the sand.

            “Pious Muslims spend their whole lives working for God and preparing for death and the hereafter”, it would be nice if you guys put as much energy in enjoying and living life to the fullest, even if it may be a speck of sand in time.

            War is not fair, I understand that. If your outnumbered and outgunned, it makes sense to resort to extreme measures like suicide bombings (still don’t agree with it). However, the targeting of civilian areas will surely send you to hell fire. Why do they have to target civilian areas? Schools? etc.. Military targets I can understand, but it never seems to stop there with extremists.

          3. Saudis don’t represent Islam as they are on a power trip, and I don’t defend rapists. So if he is guilty kill the bastard.
            Don’t get me wrong we love to enjoy life in peace, unfortunately evil will not leave us alone , thus the state of the world is as it is. I feel guilty for not being able to help my brethren more. That us why we need one righteous caliphate , and throw the secular puppets in the dustbins of history.
            Even many Muslims don’t agree with martyrdom operations as they are controversial , and that is their opinion. I do not hold that against them.
            But we gave a strong argument for it as I have represented .There is no exuse however for intentionally targeting innocent civilians , and anyone who does that is not a Muslim or totally misguided and is bound for hellfire.
            I believe I a moderate Islam, not extreme as advised by the quran and the prophet . Thank you for listening.

          4. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The holiest shrines of Islam are found in the Saudi kingdom. I think if any country represents Islam and should be held to the standards set by Islam it should be them. Where is the revolt led by the pious and righteous Muslims?

            When they give a man who murdered and raped his 5 year old daughter 8 years in prison its a blight on Islam. You can’t even be executed for murdering your children or wife in Saudia Arabia. What justice system do they adhere to? Sharia law!

            You’re welcome. I’m always up for listening to opposing views.

          5. It’s quite upsetting to read how these people portray Islam to be. How can one condon suicide attacks and claim to be a forgiving person in the same breath. You make a very good point with regards to that poor 5 year old girl. That non human that raped her should be hang not jailed. Next thing he’ll tell you is his way of islam believes in the 72 virgins. May I suggest you don’t waste time exchanging with this person. It is like hitting you head against a brick wall.

          6. It wasn’t long ago that your Iranian shite friends threatened America with a million ready to go suicide bombers. It must be ok when it suits you right.
            Anyway anyone who supports Assad in this forum , is not highly thought of.
            So you better just keep quite.

          7. Where in my post have I said I follow any political leader?

          8. Is this not your post see below
            Discussion on Ya Libnan News

            Key Syrian opposition bloc to reject peace talks

            Farq2 • 4 days ago
            The Syria opposition are as fake as they come. They never really wanted peace. They only know killing and destruction. Assad should not even try and negotiate with these non humans. He should only have one mind set for them, which is the mind he has now, destroy each and every last one of these rodents.”

            From the above posts you that you submitted I see you are a supporter of Assad , who condemns the killing of the invaders and tyrants , but fails to condemn the genocide of the innocence. I can see straight through your mask .
            You put down brave warriors whilst sucking up to the Kuffar.
            I sorry if I hurt your feelings but You are the type the quran warnes us about, a munaafiq who is a traitor and cannot be trusted by anyone.
            May Allah guide you to the truth.

          9. Hoping Assad eliminates these rodents doesn’t mean I support him. I would support anybody who eliminates these non humans even if it was Hilter. Its seems the only one who has a nerve hit is you. Straight away you call me an infidel because I disagree with you which proves what I said above is true. You are a disgusting individual and your interpretation of Islam and the Koran is even more disgusting. And as for Allah guiding me back, I can tell you has. Lets hope he does the same for you. I don’t hate you and you are not my enermy. Can you say the samething for yourself. Well obviously not because according to you I’m an infidel in your blind and brainwashed eyes. Which would mean majority of the world are infidels as well.

          10. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Just having a sticky beak, saudi government only enforces sharia when it wants no doubt, labelling and defaming the whole country is where you should take a breather and rethink. There are people working towards fixing this problem hissy fits are not the way of any prophet peace be upon them or any high achievers. This statement of mine i aim towards all countries not just saudi.you here of people being dealt with unjustly everywhere, sometimes you don’t and they are the countries we should be questioning.

            As for the bombings schools and religous places have been used are being used by government agencies and average people for weapon storage or hideouts. Blowing them up is the effect and consequence theorym.

          11. master09 Avatar

            People who put in the effort and obey Allah’commands, are on a high level in Allah’s eyes. Because we have faith in one god , pray regularly , ,give zakat, fast regularly, we become ready and love to meet our creator, and he loves to meet us.
            But in every religion people do what you say above.
            Half of Sydney Muslims are living other lives, drinking, watching porn, raping, STEALING and doing so many bad things that God told us ALLLLL not to do.
            I go out with some Muslim Girls who would run from Islam the minute they get a chance, dressing in a blanket in front of family and underneath wearing a dress that a striper is afraid to wear ready to show it when they walk in the CBD, I know I have pleasured many over the time.
            Muslims are not perfect, Christians are not perfect NO HUMAN IS PERFECT.
            But what you are saying clearly shows that you think DEEP INSIDE YOUR HEAD that muslims are perfect, praying or the other things that you do..
            As a Christian when I go around the world working for charity I help as my lord Jesus said EVERY HUMAN, be it Muslim, Christian, black white short tall what ever the SAME WAY..
            I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME FACTS, NAME ONE MUSLIM CHARITY THAT HELPS ANYONE ELSE BUT MUSLIMS… GOOD LUCK FINDING ONEITS LIKE FINDING A NEEDLE IN THE UNIVERSE.. A human loves all humans that is what JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVOIR SHOWED US, ALL.
            BEING A CHRISTIAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUTH GIVING YOUR LIFE TO OTHERS IS WHAT WE ALL SHOULD DO.
            Jesus came to this earth to SERVE and show the way.
            Praying and fasting is not what GOD wants, LOVE EACH OTHER AND GIVE EACH OTHER THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THIS EARTH AND THAT IS TIME, YES TIME…..
            GO HELP YOUR MAN KIND BECAUSE THAT IS BETTER THAN PRAYING ON THE FLOOR BY YOURSELF HELPING NO ONE, PEACE IN YOURSELF IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FINDING…THAT LEADS TO GOD..

          12. I suppose differences of religion is where we can agree to disagree ‘ and each practices their own freely. In the end we will find out what we did right and wrong.
            Muslims who do not practice the teaching have obviously fully assimimilated, integrated, and disintegrated into western culture . They have sold their Islam for a miserable price . Some may repent other will die unrepented. Allah guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills.
            Prayer is part of our balanced lifestyle which is being more more consumed by the beast of materialism. Allah does nt need us to pray to him, but we are in need of Allah, and through sincere prayer we may receive guidance and help remove and stay away from sin.
            The last 100 years the Muslims have lost their way, but their is a revival and uprising against secularist , materialistic system.
            In Islam we are encouraged to help people directly if possible. People closest to you first. (Family and friends). As we see existing charities take up to 60 percent I admin fees, and billions of dollars never actually reached the people the money was intended for.
            I pay this zakat once a year, and send it direct to the people. I also supplement with sadaqah in other ways as I see fit. I have also used HUMAN APPEAL INTERNATIONAL to DONATE SHEEP to poverty stricken countries .
            I’m sorry but I don’t trust UN sponsored charities , the UN has lost its credibilty,and it will take a lot for it to earn it back.

          13. master09 Avatar

            What about the thousand of church charity that help humans directly do you know how many of them are around the world. Second you talk about Muslims loosing thier way, what about the six million Muslims a year in Africa that become Christians did they loose the way or did they find Jesus and the love that shines into the heart when you look for it.
            That needle you will never find it.

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            where were you when the fires hit sydney? ill tell one thing i was fighting the fires at NO COST and majority of burnt out areas were not even muslim, whilse human appeal went down on foot with the food clothes and money. The places you call poorest suburbs and people with the “simple Minds” were there for the cause.
            so you go your way we will go ours.

          15. master09 Avatar

            Well done but you always miss the point. I am not attacking anyone but when someone says Muslims are the only people who know the way to God well that is a bit of crap, what say you about that. You go your way and I go my way shows that you missed the point completely and without thinking about what was said. I am saying Be it Muslim Christian or what ever you are we should help each other. So read again and come back and talk about fires. Wow fires I think when it comes to fires even an athiest is on his knees to help the poorest or the richest. So read again what I write.

          16. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I understood your point and btr2u’s point but you missed mine ill be more objective now that i have your attention and maybe you could do the same, we should be doing good for eachother and humanity as a whole your belief and how you do good is what you can go should go your way in doing and i will do the same my way. But there must be something mutual seeing that we both believe that our actions are needed to achieve truth justice and peace for humanity.

            Talking about peoples sharaf and who you f#ked is not part of the religion of christianity that you preach hence i rest my case

          17. master09 Avatar

            It was a point about screwing to make a point that no one is perfect be it Muslim or Christian again you missed the point. Only the judge will rest the case when we die. Than the case will rest.

          18. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You think Islam is the only true way. Guess what? Christians feel the only true way is through Jesus, Jews feel they are the only true way. And the post can go on further of people who think their way is the right way. In reality, nobody knows what is right. Live your life in peace and pray to your god, leave everyone else alone to pray to whom they wish. Leave the judging to GOD!

            Good for you and your family. There are also many stories of people leaving Islam.

            I personally hate the mentality that some Muslims have about living this life for the afterlife. Loving death more than life is a terrible mindset to have.

          19. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            It’s indeed depressing to even hear. This Muslim Pakistani guy I know was like yeah in heaven there’s everything, including your favorite food like Nando’s etc and the place you so much love.

            I was like yeahhhh right i’m not gonna hang around on some persian carpet biitch

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And your now-covered ‘Aussie convert’ (the former, and probably not respected well by any in the community, imperialist ) will be so happy when you send the children off to blow themselves up in one of those countries where Islamic Imperialists wish to kill all the Western Imperialists.
            Right. You understand the ‘one book’ so well.

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Man, that is so convoluted.
          Allow me a quote: ‘Into the valley of death rode the 600’ ….
          So, what’s the difference? The heat of battle always produces those who are willing to give the most they can … which usually depends on an allegiance to a concept (or leader) – even if it happens to be a bad one.
          But the 600 rode against the cannon. I doubt they would have against women and children walking in the street. Your ‘concept’ is severely flawed – even if your bomber is trying to gather his 72 virgins with him as he goes.

          The boy and the tree? William Tell. But Tell had a much better result, and didn’t cause the death of hundreds of other innocents in his fight for justice.
          And what child would not reach up to a crying mother and say ‘It’s alright Mom.’ .. while not really understanding why she cries.

          So call it ‘martyrdom operations’ if you wish. It’s still insanity.
          In this case, a collective one.
          Why push a younger fearful sister into performing it for you?? Can a woman be a martyr beyond the original meaning of the word: ‘witness’? I guess if they have stooped to that level of age there could be a few virginal boys ‘up there’. They have killed them too.
          And in 2014, there is NO justification.

          1. Not everyone is brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice for God, especially atheists.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, there’s several different subjects ……
            Your 1st question must begin by asking ‘why’ humans ‘believe’ – FIRST.
            And do you really believe an ‘atheist’ can’t believe in something? Would not die for a ‘love’ for instance? Is there not some ‘passion’ in all humans? Has it been only ‘Muslims’ who know the ‘personal’ odds against their actions in any given circumstance – especially in wars?
            ‘For God’, many have knelt and prayed while being killed – en mass sometimes.
            The ‘belief’ was so strong in the Samurai, that he would commit Sepaku – not always with ‘assistance’; and in history, also ‘en mass’ if ordered to.
            What, indeed, IS ‘belief’? Can you trust yourself to seek the answer?

            You admit “minds are limited and make mistakes which we are always correcting”. Can you open yours a little to admit that, in the course of human history, this has always been the case? Tell me why ‘correction’ is locked into the words written by humans of one tiny period of time 2000 or so years ago, and is now considered the ‘ultimate correction’ – a FINITE line of thought?
            Do you really ‘believe’ you are using all the brain-cells you have, and they are stuffed full of the ‘ultimate knowledge’ in a few written words, because the cranium has not yet expanded enough to allow the ‘corrections’?

            And if, AS WE SEE, there are no two of us identically formed in that cavity, how can you expect ‘ALL’ to follow ONE line of thought (or belief) the same way?

            Can you forget the expansive prose of the humans and be simplistic?
            ‘God’s Law’ is the Physics of the Universe. ‘Morality’ is from the human. AND it changes, as you say, with the brains in expanding craniums – which found that as a species, survival of the physically weakest animals relied on ‘social’ living – banding together against all the odds to REPRODUCE – which IS the natural desire of all life on the planet since the amoeba.
            Considering that ‘we believe’ there was ‘creation’, WHY would ‘God’ simply not stop humans from developing the larger brain before they began to ‘socialize’ and thus make ‘theories’ of morality in their little bands, which then guided them to stomp off and kill the next ‘social band’ of humans who had a different ‘culture’; usually because their natural surroundings and methods of surviving in it ‘allowed’ for a different ‘style’ of life.
            As we KNOW now, killing all the other band was not a good idea. Mixing it up produced a more capable species – and today we understand why, with blood and genetic knowledge – although first humans just did it naturally by swopping mates on occasion.

            Nobody, and certainly not fully cognizant ‘homosexuals’, will tell you that homosexual desires are ‘good’ for a species, but the word ‘Wrong’ didn’t come from a god. Whoever told you that it is all ‘good’ now??
            BUT since they were born through no fault of their own, and are part of the human experience, and a part of life on the planet, WHY should they not have ‘equality’ in the social groupings under the laws humans create for those? (One of those biggies, as we know, being – ‘Thou shall not kill’.)

            Ah yes, why would I have incentive to ‘do good’ – or indeed do anything – since the ‘accident’ of two humans reproducing put me here? OR, why would I bother running around killing people since I know I’m going to die anyway? Such a waste of time and energy, after all. I should have just laid there and chewed grass for the lifetime – which would have allowed me to say I followed all God’s laws, right? Sounds realistic. Doesn’t it?
            REALLY, if I was born in Hawaii, it could indeed be possible to be THAT ‘godly’. It’s a garden of Eden for the picking. Those people certainly were until the ‘mix from the East’ landed on them – and except for a ‘belief’ they needed to feed a fair maiden to a volcano on occasion to keep a God quiet, they lived well and large. (Ah, again, the downtrodden women. Males always powerful? But Hawaii had a QUEEN. And there was ‘honour’ in the sacrifice.)
            I HAVE a choice. I make MY decisions. I ENJOY life. I am amazed constantly by it. I added to an expanding gene pool. I did it all in your ‘Godly’ way – without the same ‘moralities’ holding me back – and like to think I contributed to ‘the society’. I’ve been happy in the ‘accident’ most of the time, until I see what ‘other’ humans can do with their ‘beliefs’ and the lesser genetic codes they will never ‘confess’ to having – even if I proved it to them. I recognize I am not in the upper ranges of it either. It is ALL a wonder, this thing we humans call ‘life’ – I would like to see the advances of 2000 more years – but I know I will not.
            I’m not about to blow myself up in grief over that.

          3. Hi 5th I hope you are well.
            Thanks for sharing your thoughts,.and you have some interesting points.
            But going on the belief on those self concocted theories you came to the conclusion of , you have no incentive to believe in god and do good since you are going to die and become dust , without being judged or being held accountable.
            So if that’s the case, what purpose are you here for other than experiencing as much personal sensations as you can before you die and become permanent dust.
            If you believe in God you will find we have purpose to fulfill,
            All of us and u have an equal responsibility. That responsibility is to listen with an open heart and an open mind. In a world filled with prejudice and cultural conditioning, it is very hard to be able to find people to take a moment to think about life objectively and try to arrive at the truth about this world and the real purpose of our lives.

            Unfortunately, when you ask most people the question: “What is the purpose of life?” (such a fundamental and important question), they will not tell you what they have concluded through observation or analytical reasoning. Rather, in most cases, they will simply tell you what someone else said, or they will tell you what is “commonly presumed” by others, i.e., What my father said purpose of life is, what the minister of my church said the purpose of life is, what my teacher in school said, what my friend said, etc. If I ask anyone about the purpose of eating or why do we eat, everyone will say [in one word or another] that it is for nutritional purposes, because nutrition sustains life. If I ask anyone why they work, they will say because it’s a necessity in order to support themselves and to provide for the needs of their families. If I ask anyone why they sleep, why they wash, why they dress, etc., they will answer with appropriate answers, for these are common necessities for all human beings. We can follow this line of questioning with a hundred questions and receive the same or similar answers from anyone in any language from any place in the world.

            Then I ask you the question: Why, when we ask the question, “What is the goal and purpose of life?” that we get many different answers? It is because people are confused; they don’t really know. They are stumbling in the dark, and rather than say, “I don’t know”; they just offer any answer they have been programmed to give. Think about it. Is our purpose in this world simply to eat, sleep, dress, work, acquire some material things and enjoy ourselves? Is this our purpose? Why are we born? What is the object of our existence? What is the wisdom behind the creation of man and this tremendous universe? Think about those questions.

            Here I would like to mention a few verses from the Holy Quran that address this subject. We seek the protection of Allah from every evil thing. Allah mentions to us in the Holy Quran, “And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and Allah is over all things competent. Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding-Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth, [saying], “Our Lord, You did not create this aimlessly; exalted are You [above such a thing]; then protect us from the punishment of the Fire.” Surah 3: Ayahs 189-191

            Now here in these verses, Allah draws our attention to the creation of the heavens and earth, the alternation of the night and the day, the creation of the universe. HE calls our attention to their creation and their precision, and mentions those who contemplate the wonders of creation and realize that this was not created for any foolish purpose, [that Allah is exalted above doing such a thing] and they seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of Hell. Truly, when you see the design of all that Allah created, you realize it is very powerful and very precise. Something very powerful and very precise; something beyond your own calculation and imagination, cannot be foolish.

            My dear respected brothers and sisters, we have to ask ourselves a further question. When you see a bridge, a building or an automobile, you automatically consider the person or company that constructed it. When you see a large ship, an airplane, a rocket, a satellite; you also think about how incredible it is. [You know by its design who the maker is.] When you see a super international airport, nuclear plant or an orbiting space station you have to be thoroughly impressed with the engineering dynamics that are involved. Yet, these are just things that are manufactured by human beings. So what about the human body with its massive and intricate control systems? Think about it.

            Think about the brain: how it thinks, functions, analyzes, retrieves and stores information, as well as distinguishes and categorizes information in a millionth of a second, all of this constantly.

            Think about the brain for a moment. (And don’t forget the fact that you are using your brain to consider itself!) This is the brain that made the automobile, the rocket ships, the boats, and so on. Think about the brain and who made that!

            Think about the heart. Think about how it pumps continuously for sixty or seventy years [taking in and discharging blood throughout the body] maintaining steady precision throughout the life of the person.

            Think about the kidneys and the liver and the various functions they perform. The purifying instruments of the body that perform hundreds of chemical analyses simultaneously and also controls the level of toxicity in the content of the body. All of these are done automatically.

            Think about your eyes, the human cameras, that adjust, focus, interpret, evaluate, discern color automatically, naturally receiving and adjusting to light and distance.

            Think about it-Who created them? Who has mastered their design and function? Who plans and regulates their function? Human beings do this? No, of course not. What about this universe?

            Think about this. This earth is one planet in our solar system, and our solar system is one [of possible many] solar systems. Our galaxy, The Milky Way, is one of the galaxies. There are ONE HUNDRED MILLION GALAXIES in the universe. They are all in order and they are all precise. They are not colliding with each other. They are not conflicting with on another. They are swimming along in an orbit that has been set for them. Did human beings set that into motion and are human beings maintaining that precision? No, of course not.

            Think about the oceans, the fish, the insects, the birds, the plants, bacteria, and chemical elements that have not yet been discovered and cannot be detected even with the most sophisticated instruments. Yet each of them has a law that they follow. Did all of this synchronization, balance, harmony, variation, design, maintenance, operation and infinite numeration happen all by chance? Do these things function perfectly and perpetually also by chance? No, of course not. That would be totally illogical and foolish. In the least, it indicates that however it came to exist-it exists beyond the realm of human capability. We will all agree to that. The Being, The Almighty Power, God, The Creator who has the knowledge to design and proportion created all of this and is responsible for maintaining it. HE is the only one that deserves praise and gratitude.

            If I were to give each one of you one hundred dollars for no reason, just for being here, you would at least say thank you. What about your eyes, your kidneys, your brain, your children, and your life: Who gave you all of that? Is He not worthy of praise and thanks? Is He not worthy of your worship and recognition?

            My brothers and sisters, that in a nutshell, is the goal and purpose of this life. Allah said to us in the Holy Quran: “And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.” [Surah 51: Ayah 56] this is what the Almighty said.

            Our purpose in this life is to recognize The Creator, to be grateful to Him, to worship Him, to surrender ourselves to Him and to obey the laws that He has determined for us. It means worship is our purpose in life. Whatever we do in the course of that worship, [i.e., the eating, the sleeping, the dressing, the working, the enjoying,] between birth and death is consequential and subject to His orders. But the main reason for our creation is worship. I don’t think anyone who is analytical or scientific will have much of an argument with that purpose. They may have some other reason with themselves-but that is something they have to deal with between themselves and Almighty God.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            oops … from Btru2u … a reply … hmmm …
            “So if that’s the case, what purpose are you here for other than experiencing as much personal sensations as you can before you die and become permanent dust.”
            Maybe, Btru2u, I have found my ‘purpose’ finally. Putting MY thoughts into YaLibnan. Without always quoting those ancient texts. 😉 And If I was ‘worshipping’ all the time I wouldn’t have time for this anyway.
            (Can’t say that ‘blogging’ is always pleasant sensations … something like trying to stand on the knees all the time … but then he would say ‘Humans Must Always Suffer’ … And I had enough of that with at least one idiot ‘boss’ who interfered, with work I enjoyed to do well, because he needed to feel ‘superior’ even if it cost him lost production to aggravate me.)

            Allow me to say, I like your last line … and agree … “that is something they have to deal with between themselves and Almighty God.” And if as you say ‘those self concocted theories’ are wrong, then I will find out eventually. I don’t particularly enjoy having the others stuffed down my throat to silence me, nor to see other people being wiped out by ‘mad bombers’ (the origin of the discussion) because some personal freedom is considered ‘naughty’ in their version of God’s eye – which appears to be the ROOT cause of all the stupidity (insanity) going on. I will never believe ‘a God’ wants that – no matter what you call him. If I did, I’d punch him in that eye.

          5. Allah knows the intentions and actions of each individual, so it’s not up to me to judge the ” martyrs.” But is easy to distinguish between the provoked and the defender, the good and the evil. There is no blame on the oppressed for retaliating with the intention of the greater good.
            I’m glad you have found your purpose and meaning in your life with YA LIBNAN.
            It’s your choice to follow the perfected system or go through a trial and error process that could take you , …GOD knows where.
            Good luck with that….

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hahahaha … 😉 Cheers. 🙂

          7. man-o-war Avatar

            Why has God created us? If the sole purpose is to worship him, it makes no sense. He created us just to worship him. Why? God needed to reaffirm superiority over his creation? How does that make any sense? Why create the human race, the earth, the heavens and so on to do this?

            Do you believe all our actions are predetermined by God? That God knows exactly what we will do and how we’ll behave because God has written it. Then why would God let that sadistic maniac rape and murder his five year old? Would God have decided thats how that five year old was to live her life? Is God playing a game with us?

          8. Mohammed (was the role model of the perfect human life). And his life was balanced.
            Spending time nourishing our mind (learning), body(work ,good food and exercise) , and soul (prayer and or contemplation/ meditation )is the secret to work life balance and will help us achieve happiness and contentment in life. Many People currently sacrifice their health to make money, then they sacrifice their money to recuperate their health, then they Are so anxious about the future that they do not enjoy the present; the result being they do not live in the present or the future; they live as if they are never going to die, and then die having never really lived.”
            God is not playing a game with us .he is hurling , good and evil, truth and falsehood against each other. We are all being tested in these catogeries, and the rewards and punishments are with God , all from the fruits our bodies and souls have produced with our free will to choose.
            Alhamdullilah I know the difference.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oy Vay … such ‘role model’ I should try to be. 😉
            BUT Now it sounds like ‘Zen’ … and we know Buddhists were around longer.
            Are you certain it all downloaded from those damn Hebrews?? :-))))))

      2. I’m a forgiving bloke , so I hope Alkah guides you to the truth and forgives your history of hateful comments to the Muslims.
        I hope you will one day experience the contentment and happiness that a Muslim life brings to the soul.
        Unfortunately not all of us can forgive under extreme circumstances , and there is no blame on them if they seek retribution.
        May we all learn to get along , and bring light to the world.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          I have no hate for Muslims, but I do hate terrorists who hijack the religion to justify their heinous crimes against humanity. I don’t need or want your forgiveness, maybe you should save that for the innocent people that get caught in the middle of your “martyrdom operations” aka suicide bombings.

          “May we all learn to get along”, why would any sane person want to get along with someone who loves death more than life?

        2. Respect and admiration for your stand on forgiveness!

          1. Nelson Mandela has left a recent legacy that I hope the world could learn from .

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, let’s then agree Mandela also learned something along with ‘the world’- which wasn’t written in a book related to his immediate problems.

    2. libnan1 Avatar

      If the American were as kuffar as you think, they would have wiped Iraq and Afghanistan of the face of the earth. They were playing paddy cake with these people because of the innocent people these terrorists were hiding behind. So count yourself luck that they were not kuffar.

  3. libnan1 Avatar

    The American people lost faith in Obama too. We can’t wait for this guy to get out of town.

  4. libnan1 Avatar

    The American people lost faith in Obama too. We can’t for this guy to get out of town.

  5. Leebsat Avatar

    There are Many Ways to Enter……. But !
    Not ComE_BacK Alive any Way There From….. Yes 1 Hv With Dead_Body Box…..Its Enjoy_Able Afghanistan… By: Leebsat Besham

  6. Leebsat Avatar

    There are Many Ways to Enter……. But !
    Not ComE_BacK Alive any Way There From….. Yes 1 Hv With Dead_Body Box…..Its Enjoy_Able Afghanistan… By: Leebsat Besham

  7. To even think that this baboon will be gone in 2 years, cant wait

  8. cook2half Avatar
    cook2half

    To even think that this baboon will be gone in 2 years, cant wait

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