Qatar paid $150 mil ransom to free the Lebanese hostages

Khaled al-Attiya, Qatar FMQatari Foreign Minister Khaled al-Attiya was the first to announce on Friday that β€œthe Qatari mediation has led to the release of the nine Lebanese” hostages who were abducted in Syria’s Aazaz .

Al-Jazeera television which is owned by Qatar reported the story in a breaking news headline without elaborating any further.

Turkish officials who were involved in the negotiation of the release of the Lebanese hostages told Al Liwa newspaper that Qatar paid $150 million to the kidnappers to secure the release of the pilgrims who were kidnapped in northern Syria in May 2012 while on their way to Lebanon from Iran

Lebanese General Security chief Maj. Gen. Abbas Ibrahim who was earlier on Friday in damascus to discuss with his Syrian counterpart General Ali Mamlouk the release of the nine Lebanese pilgrims, headed to Turkey to meet with the abductees after crossing the (Syrian-Turkish) border.

In addition to the ransom the deal included the release of 282 women detainees in Syrian prisons.

According to the deal the two Turkish pilots who were kidnapped last August by the relatives of the nine lebanese hostages will be handed over by the abductors to Ibrahim who will in turn hand them over to the Turkish authorities.

A group called Zuwwar al-Imam Rida said last August that it was behind the kidnapping of two Turkish pilots in Beirut, saying they would be freed in exchange for the pilgrims.

“Very positive developments are under way in the case of the pilots; this matter has largely been settled,” Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Turkish television following the announcement of the deal

Al Jazeera  released  a picture of eight of thenine freed hostages and said they all appear to be in good health
Al Jazeera released a picture of eight of the nine freed hostages and said they all appear to be in good health

Ibrahim thanked Qatar and Turkey for their roles in the release of the Lebanese hostages . He also thanked Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas for his effort and Syria reportedly for cooperating in the release of the women prisoners .

The Qatar Foreign minister along with Ibrahim will accompany the freed pilgrims from Turkey to Lebanon as soon as the all the procedures required to complete the ransom deal are finalized

The news was greeted with jubilation in Hezbollah’s stronghold in Dhahieh, southern Beirut, where relatives of some of those kidnapped live. Preparations are underway in Dhahieh to celebrate the arrival of the Lebanese Shiite pilgrims.

Updates:

LBCI reported that General Security chief Ibrahim revealed that he is working on resolving the case of the two bishops abducted in Aleppo, saying that they are doing well and that his recent trip to Belgium was linked to the issue.

LBCI also reported that the freed Shiite pilgrims will return to Lebanon on board a private Qatari jet accompanied by General Ibrahim and Qatari FM Khaled al-Attiya.

  • LF for life

    what about all the Christian’s jailed in Syria for over 25 years. why arent they paying 15million per person for them. Lebanon is the most Fucked up country in the WHOLE world. this is a dark day. Hezzb my ass and the shia’s always get what they want.

    • tayyardotorg

      christians are kouffar and will burn in hell; however their ex leader samir geagea reverted to salafism and we hope many of them will follow him

      • man-o-war

        Troll!

        • tayyardotorg

          yalli jayeen, 7adder el mishway

          • man-o-war

            Great! We are waiting with open arms πŸ˜‰ Of course, we will be serving smoked pork chops! I also have a special bottle of Arak just for the occasion. You will love your visit.

          • Hannibal

            lol

          • master09

            You know I asked you a ? Why did Mohamed ban pork of your menu and the Halal like the Jews. Can you give me facts.

          • tayyardotorg

            first who is mohamed? your friend? no respect; its prophet mohamed PiBUH.
            second its not prophet mohamed who banned pork, its allah
            last if you want to know, google is a vast library for ignorami koufar; our library is koran and ahadith; the day you decide to join us, i presume soon, and you show real interest in salafism rather than this sarcastic approach, that day i will ask our imam and give you all the information you need

          • master09

            Salafism is what gives Islam a bad name dude.

          • Hannibal

            hey tayyar? Do you have a salafi beard?

          • tayyardotorg

            2 of them; one to the outside and one hidden

          • Hannibal

            So the one on the outside hides your weary face for the hidden one hides the micropenis?
            I am right, ain’t I? lol

          • Leborigine

            lol – is that tayardog still barking?? What a turd!

          • tayyardotorg

            jayinak ya mkhannas

          • tayyardotorg

            are you fond of penis? do you admire them or just a hobby?

          • Hannibal

            Only yours the micro one and scientifically speaking it is quite an abnormality… Bringing my electron microscope as a lens won’t help…. Yek Yek Yek

          • man-o-war

            I heard Salafi beards make the best brooms. True?

          • Peaceforleb

            Man O my friend you are wrong, it’s actually a toilet brush. I heard this is ASSir’s new trade. And my is he succeeding. From what I’ve been told he gets the rim nice and sparkly. With no need for any type of cleaning products. See Salifi’s are good for something after all.

          • 5thDrawer

            And then, if we still enjoy bacon, or a pork roast, what happens ???

          • tayyardotorg

            allah sub7anahou ta3ala forbade pork; so if you want to eat pork, you are disobeying the orders of allah; we do not have to understand all what allah wants or why but we have to obey him; allah knows it all. If you disobey him you will burn in hell

          • 5thDrawer

            ‘All God’s creatures got soul’ … and can be quite tasty when flavoured right. :-)))

          • Hannibal

            I know why so that people like tayyardotorg won’t be accused of cannibalism…. hahahahahahahahaha could not help myself… Had to say it! lol

      • cook

        Refrain yourself from using anti-Semitic language, we are all peaceful here.

        • tayyardotorg

          are you threatening me? lol!!! peaceful!!! hahaha, good joke

          • cook

            stam bamza7 ma3ak lol, esa erja3 lal quran

          • tayyardotorg

            eh bala hek maze7 ma fya la nakha wala mazzieh

          • cook

            אני לא ΧžΧ‘Χ™ΧŸ אוΧͺך!! Χ—Χ—Χ—Χ—Χ—

          • tayyardotorg

            yahoodi kaman

          • cook

            la2 3aza wen shayef yahoodi :S ana mesh kosher
            esa hat netkharaf 3an Hezbushaitan .. hadol mesh eslam sa7?

          • IraniAngel

            wallah hadol w kilel er9abiyeen mish islam el 7a2i2iye!!!!!

          • cook

            sob bekheir, everything ok? πŸ™‚

          • IraniAngel

            saba7 el nour, neshkorAllah an2 mni7, wunta keefak?

          • Guest

            khoob hastam, deram rooye essay kar mikonam all weekend :/

          • IraniAngel

            that must be killiing you.. sounds a bit tough

          • Guest

            Philosophy πŸ™‚

          • IraniAngel

            so it is tough and it is killing you πŸ™‚ good luck

          • cook

            Doesnt stop me from spamming on the internet though, and thats what counts ^ ^

          • IraniAngel

            taking breaks once in a while is totally permitted

          • Guest

            London tala boodi? such an amazing place

          • IraniAngel

            no, i would absolutely love to go there and i definitely will fi mosta2bal eza allah rad.

          • Hannibal

            From the way it sounds and the twisted face I gather Heraclitus has diarrhea… LOL

          • tayyardotorg

            if you are smelling diarrhea, being in a virtual world, it is unlikely that the smell comes except from yourself; glad you are starting to recognise the smell of faeces; next step is to quit denial and admit the fact that you are the diarrhea or its causative organism and not someone else; last i invite you to join salafism because allah only can cure you from the diarrhea that is devastating you

          • Hannibal

            Noise…

          • tayyardotorg

            normal, if you got diarrhea and are smelling faeces, no doubt you are passing flatus thus making noise

          • tayyardotorg

            sorry

          • Hannibal

            Are you still writing in this biblical archaic gibberish language Heraclitus? Time to retire it… Join the civilized world and write in English πŸ˜›

          • cook

            A Syrian poster on CNN by the name of Syrially told me that by the end of this year, these letters wont function anymore on any computer or device =(
            LOL

          • Hannibal

            Hasn’t he heard of backups? lol

          • cook

            No disc available to back them up, the Syrian army would have occupied Israel by then lol.

        • Peaceforleb

          All except this jahash Cook. Take no notice of it. I think the jihad its wife, sister and mother are performing in Syria is making it jealous. After all male Salifi’s do like it from behind.

      • Peaceforleb

        I have never come across a lower Salifi than you. You are a disgrace not only in Islam, however in humanity as well. The only thing you are achieving on this blog is proving to the rest of us how pathetic the Salifi religion really is. Oh and btw, you salifi pigs are in no way Muslims. That we are sure of. Ya hayawayn.

        • tayyardotorg

          allah yishfik min ghaba’ el koufr wa illa assatour

        • Hannibal

          Peace
          This guy is a Christian from Ashrafieh disgruntled with the world as he is a loser jobless and disoriented with the sea of change…
          He poses as a different person every once in an a while until he gets banned.
          If you want to ruffle his feathers just make fun of his language and you will see he starts using google and wiktionary to prove he is educated although he never made it past high school.

      • master09

        A cave person will all be just that, again I pray for your black heart. Jesus bring you light.

        • tayyardotorg

          like your kafer leader hassan nastyrallah

        • tayyardotorg

          what about a stable person born in an animal farm? issa!!!

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ya waylek min ekhirtek.

    • turk in beirut

      because nobody dont need them forget them

    • man-o-war

      Why is Lebanon F’ed up? Qatar paid the 150 million ransom.

    • you do make an excellent point about Lebanese being jailed in Syria being forgotten or treated as irrelevant , the middle east in general including Lebanon is no a place worthy of an award for justice….its who you know or get in bed with that will get you favors now and then.

    • Hannibal

      I doubt they are alive… The hyena would have produced them by now if they were…

  • LF for life

    what about all the Christian’s jailed in Syria for over 25 years. why arent they paying 15million per person for them. Lebanon is the most Fucked up country in the WHOLE world. this is a dark day. Hezzb my ass and the shia’s always get what they want.

    • tayyardotorg

      christians are kouffar and will burn in hell; however their ex leader samir geagea reverted to salafism and we hope many of them will follow him

      • man-o-war

        Troll!

        • tayyardotorg

          yalli jayeen, 7adder el mishway

          • man-o-war

            Great! We are waiting with open arms πŸ˜‰ Of course, we will be serving smoked pork chops! I also have a special bottle of Arak just for the occasion. You will love your visit.

          • Hannibal

            lol

          • master09

            You know I asked you a ? Why did Mohamed ban pork of your menu and the Halal like the Jews. Can you give me facts.

          • tayyardotorg

            first moo is mohamed? your friend? no respect; its prophet mohamed PiBUH.
            second its not prophet mohamed who banned pork, its allah
            last if you want to know, google is a vast library for ignorami koufar; our library is koran and ahadith; the day you decide to join us, i presume soon, and you show real interest in salafism rather than this sarcastic approach, that day i will ask our imam and give you all the information you need

          • master09

            Salafism is what gives Islam a bad name dude.

          • Hannibal

            hey tayyar? Do you have a salafi beard?

          • tayyardotorg

            2 of them; one to the outside and one hidden

          • Hannibal

            So the one on the outside hides your weary face for the hidden one hides the micropenis?
            I am right, ain’t I? lol

          • Leborigine

            lol – is that tayardog still barking?? What a turd!

          • tayyardotorg

            jayinak ya mkhannas

          • tayyardotorg

            are you fond of penis? do you admire them or just a hobby?

          • Hannibal

            Only yours the micro one and scientifically speaking it is quite an abnormality… Bringing my electron microscope as a lens won’t help…. Yek Yek Yek

          • tayyardotorg

            3ama bi albak shou a3ma; satl fhimna bass a3ma kaman; ana bshoufo bala microscope; is’al il mama

          • man-o-war

            I heard Salafi beards make the best brooms. True?

          • Peaceforleb

            Man O my friend you are wrong, it’s actually a toilet brush. I heard this is ASSir’s new trade. And my is he succeeding. From what I’ve been told he gets the rim nice and sparkly. With no need for any type of cleaning products. See Salifi’s are good for something after all.

          • 5thDrawer

            And then, if we still enjoy bacon, or a pork roast, what happens ???

          • tayyardotorg

            allah sub7anahou ta3ala forbade pork; so if you want to eat pork, you are disobeying the orders of allah; we do not have to understand all what allah wants or why but we have to obey him; allah knows it all. If you disobey him you will burn in hell

          • 5thDrawer

            ‘All God’s creatures got soul’ … and can be quite tasty when flavoured right. :-)))

          • Hannibal

            I know why so that people like tayyardotorg won’t be accused of cannibalism…. hahahahahahahahaha could not help myself… Had to say it! lol

      • dateam

        twat

        • tayyardotorg

          we will use 2000 watt for kouffar

          • master09

            Lol

        • 5thDrawer

          And THAT is English. :-)))

      • Heraclitus

        Refrain yourself from using anti-Semitic language, we are all peaceful here.

        • tayyardotorg

          are you threatening me? lol!!! peaceful!!! hahaha, good joke

          • Heraclitus

            stam bamza7 ma3ak lol, esa erja3 lal quran

          • tayyardotorg

            eh bala hek maze7 ma fya la nakha wala mazzieh

          • Heraclitus

            אני לא ΧžΧ‘Χ™ΧŸ אוΧͺך!! Χ—Χ—Χ—Χ—Χ—

          • tayyardotorg

            yahoodi kaman

          • Heraclitus

            la2 3aza wen shayef yahoodi :S ana mesh kosher
            esa hat netkharaf 3an Hezbushaitan .. hadol mesh eslam sa7?

          • IraniAngel

            wallah hadol w kilel er9abiyeen mish islam el 7a2i2iye!!!!!

          • Heraclitus

            sob bekheir, everything ok? πŸ™‚

          • IraniAngel

            saba7 el nour, neshkorAllah an2 mni7, wunta keefak?

          • Heraclitus

            khoob hastam, deram rooye essay kar mikonam all weekend :/

          • IraniAngel

            that must be killiing you.. sounds a bit tough

          • Heraclitus

            Philosophy πŸ™‚

          • IraniAngel

            so it is tough and it is killing you πŸ™‚ good luck

          • Heraclitus

            Doesnt stop me from spamming on the internet though, and thats what counts ^ ^

          • IraniAngel

            taking breaks once in a while are totally permitted

          • Heraclitus

            London tala boodi? such an amazing place

          • IraniAngel

            no, i would absolutely love to go there and i definitely will fi mosta2bal eza allah rad.

          • Hannibal

            From the way it sounds and the twisted face I gather Heraclitus has diarrhea… LOL

          • tayyardotorg

            if you are smelling diarrhea, being in a virtual world, it is unlikely that the small comes except from yourself; glad you are starting to recognise the smell of faeces; next step is to quit denial annd admit the fact that you are the diarrhea or its causative organism and not someone else; last i invite you to join salafism because allah only can cure you from the diarrhea that is devastating yoyu

          • Hannibal

            Noise…

          • tayyardotorg

            normal, if you got diarrhea and are smelling faeces, no doubt you are passing flatus thus making noise

          • tayyardotorg

            Χ‘Χ“Χ¨Χš Χ›ΧœΧœ Χ™Χ”Χ•Χ“Χ™

          • Hannibal

            Are you still writing in this biblical archaic gibberish language Heraclitus? Time to retire it… Join the civilized world and write in English πŸ˜›

          • Heraclitus

            A Syrian poster on CNN by the name of Syrially told me that by the end of this year, these letters wont function anymore on any computer or device =(
            LOL

          • Hannibal

            Hasn’t he heard of backups? lol

          • Heraclitus

            No disc available to back them up, the Syrian army would have occupied Israel by then lol.

        • Peaceforleb

          All except this jahash Cook. Take no notice of it. I think the jihad its wife, sister and mother are performing in Syria is making it jealous. After all male Salifi’s do like it from behind.

      • Peaceforleb

        I have never come across a lower Salifi than you. You are a disgrace not only in Islam, however in humanity as well. The only thing you are achieving on this blog is proving to the rest of us how pathetic the Salifi religion really is. Oh and btw, you salifi pigs are in no way Muslims. That we are sure of. Ya hayawayn.

        • tayyardotorg

          allah yishfik min ghaba’ el koufr wa illa assatour

        • Hannibal

          Peace
          This guy is a Christian from Ashrafieh disgruntled with the world as he is a loser jobless and disoriented with the sea of change…
          He poses as a different person every once in an a while until he gets banned.
          If you want to ruffle his feathers just make fun of his language and you will see he starts using google and wiktionary to prove he is educated although he never made it past high school.

      • master09

        A cave person will all be just that, again I pray for your black heart. Jesus bring you light.

        • tayyardotorg

          like your kafer leader hassan nastyrallah

        • tayyardotorg

          what about a stable person born in an animal farm? issa!!!

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ya waylek min ekhirtek.

    • turk in beirut

      because nobody dont need them forget them

    • man-o-war

      Why is Lebanon F’ed up? Qatar paid the 150 million ransom.

    • you do make an excellent point about Lebanese being jailed in Syria being forgotten or treated as irrelevant , the middle east in general including Lebanon is no a place worthy of an award for justice….its who you know or get in bed with that will get you favors now and then.

    • Hannibal

      I doubt they are alive… The hyena would have produced them by now if they were…

  • cook

    God bless Qatar

    • Peaceforleb

      Come on cookie. God bless Qatar. What the hell.

      • cook

        Just spamming lol

  • Heraclitus

    God bless Qatar

    • Peaceforleb

      Come on cookie. God bless Qatar. What the hell.

      • Heraclitus

        Just spamming lol

  • yalibnan

    This is to remind all our readers to respect the community . Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

    For those who are new to this site please note that Ya Libnan is all about fixing Lebanon.

    We want our readers to come up with ideas that if implemented will make lebanon a better country.

    Ya Libnan is a democratic venue that is open to anyone wishing to contribute any ideas to improve Lebanon. Our only wish is to maintain the civility of the discussions and that is why those who have not been able to abide by this rule have been banned from participating in this forum . We don’t want or expect anything from anyone …better lebanon is the only reward we seek. Help us get there!

    • IraniAngel

      in that case i have a suggestion that will make not only lebanon but the whole middle east a better place. 3 weeks or so ago i came across a realively recent survey that showed that around 75% of the lebanese regardless of religious and ethnitic background are strong supporters of the terrorist organization of hezbollah and the even crueler iranian regime which is responsible of the killings of 1000s of 1000s of iraniangels and which is responsible of the sufferings of iranianangels. i was simply choked when i first read it so i had to read it several times in order to take in the survey. how is it possible that the lebanese are like that??? we the iraniangels on the other hand have figured out these nasty mollahs and their evil aims ages ago but apparently that doesnt apply for the lebanese. if you want a better lebanon stop supporting a terrorist organization. by stopping your support to hezbollah and the iraniangel regime you would be amazed how the effect would reach way out of your own borders.

      • tayyardotorg

        i agree with you; i think you iranianangels should revert to salafism; the reason why lebanese support hizboshaytan to 80 % is that the devil is easier to follow than allah: the devil seduces. It is enough to see this alcoholic 5th drawer to realise HOW DEVASTATING THE SEDUCTIVE EFFECT OF SHAYTAN IS… On the other hand the christian kouffars had a leader called samir geagea who reverted to salafism hence they hate him, consequently the christian kouffars of lebanon are supporting micehlk aoun who is a hizboshaytan ally

        • IraniAngel

          you are so funny but irrelevant

        • 5thDrawer

          And if a Salafist Dork reverted to Aounism that would be bad too, I suppose. πŸ˜‰
          And if you think you can drive me to drink more than the stupidity of your religion already did to many people, forget it. I enjoy the flavour.

          • tayyardotorg

            salafism is your only cure for alcoholism; the incoherence in your speech is attributable to alcohol

          • tayyardotorg

            i dont know if you noticed, you oscillate between states of dementia depending on your dose of drugs ingested or injected and sometimes like in this reply, you are in a paroxysmal dementic state; if you think being rude, using big words and obsessively attacking others will give more credit to your bankrupt sterile collection of irritating incoherent words, lol, then you are really funny however you add no fun to this blog. I think the yalibnan admins should seek new spirit to dynamise their blog. I reviewed the blog during the weekend and noticed that mostly al mahabeel assalasa write in it. Over the years, reading you is boring, monotonous, repetitive, insultive and repelling to anyone who contradicts your bahloul idea like arid argumentation probably based on some kind of interest (pleasing a generous master for example) or kinship. You read one of your replies and you have read the loads of them in tons of letters collected together. I dont know if you got enough neurons remaining which escaped alcoholic encephalopathy to realise that nobody is coming in here because of your aberrant abhorrent rigid and non tolerant attitude dominating the blog and imposing its colour and tone which at best serves as a hypnotising useless tool (not even laxative like those of hanibal) if it is useful for anything which by itself is against any attractive advertising aim that people in politics or in business try to refrain from; hence i do not know why yalibnan is keeping you besides your function as a loyal canine guarding the door of the blog and barking, when you are sober, at any newcomer; as the french say, dogs bark but the caravane will pass ( i couldnt find in google translate canadian french)

          • 5thDrawer

            hehehehehehe … found me interesting enough to be ‘a cause’….
            Even if it’s a personal attack, it’s the longest most coherent thing you’ve written.
            Perhaps you should attempt something/anything outside of politics since you can’t work out how to be free of the ‘rules’ in one book – which is what holds a whole country down in the mud.
            If you think I’m a ‘stick-in-the-mud’ about freedom and it’s worth, you’re right.

          • tayyardotorg

            actually i thank you for the rigidity and intolerance in your replies because you are advertising our salafi ideology; people usually criticise us for being rigid and intolerant; you are showing that you are more rigid and intolerant than us with a difference that we are slaves of allah while you are a slave of a master; many many thanks again, i bet, have you had the possibility, udoubtfully you wouldn’t hesitate to behead me; may allah help you

    • cook

      Send the Palestinian “refugees” to Syria, and absorb the Syrian Christians in the event of Assad collapsing. Get rid of Hezbushaitan and recognize Israel as a Jewish state. lol

    • 5thDrawer

      tayyadork just lost most of his comments from 3 weeks … imagine the re-write needed. :-)))

      • tayyardotorg

        i dont think yalibnan admin was addressing me since i believe i am the one most respectful to TOS and to bloggers as well as the one most subject to the calomniation of the stupidity of stray bloggers, drug users and alcoholic gangs in here

        • 5thDrawer

          and that’s one of the few in English .. πŸ˜‰

        • man-o-war

          Aww! Are people picking on you? I wonder why? Have you read your comments?

          • tayyardotorg

            ya oustaz (in syrian language); i do not care if kouffars like you are picking on me; allah will punish them because they are kouffar

          • IraniAngel

            i think… no i know for a fact that the kuffars are better than the nasty salafists. so it is the other way around. god will punish the salafists

    • Dear Yalibnan mod, first I want to thank you for your above comment, I personally appreciate the message and its sincerity.
      Sadly I have reasons to believe that there is no fixing Lebanon as a whole, what is Lebanon ? a people or a geographic address? as individuals we must start the mission within to be successful on a small personal scale and celeberate the ability to love and respect one another on reasons other than sect, religion or political alliances.
      Although there is no shortage of haters partaking in the comment box on a mission to feel psychologically superior by insulting and provoking others I must give yalibnan the credit for being the venue that allowed me to interact with many other Lebanese that truly display the ability to coexist and show a desire to leave a positive mark among us even though the rear view mirror shows a shameful past, it is those individuals that make it worthwhile to come back and visit and If I can suggest an Idea for a positive article for yalibnan it would be a weekly news segment of positive things taking place among Lebanese from all sides.

      • 5thDrawer

        Coming in right behind you, Geo. (maybe too long for a read by some …) ;-)))

        • 5thDrawer

          DEAR Mods:
          Happy thoughts, YaLibnan. But it IS a blog too … and there’s a lot of confused people ‘out there’.
          Which is ok … we can all learn something or have an opinion without shooting. Right?
          But having been commenting in here since before Assad began eliminating his general population, I have seen many great ideas ‘for’ a workable Lebanon – not the least of which have been in articles by people like Ghassan Karam – and functional opinions by others doing ‘comments’ – and I now have the opinion that NO-ONE IN Lebanon actually listens to rational thought – OR reads YaLibnan.
          And we can see the reasons it doesn’t happen to change, can’t we?? I mean, Besides the fact MOST Lebanese were smart enough to leave there when they had a chance and the place was filled up by Syrians or refugees from various other lands. (Lebanese always said ‘You’re welcome’. Of course that screwed them.)
          And I don’t put the religiosity at the top of my list of reasons – which will probably amaze the uber-religious in here, since they love to bring out ALL that irrational stuff any time someone dares to mention what anyone can read in any of ‘the books’, and I am happy enough to pot at them when they become stupid with it.
          The FIRST thing Lebanon needs is people ‘At The Top’ who will make it ‘better’. i.e. Workable. As a ‘country’ named Lebanon. Not some sectarian hodgepodge with both a president and a prime minister and a stupidly ‘confessional’ idea where no-one confesses their true desires … or who dropped the bombs … or even did a bad job.
          Really, it’s all about POWER … and I don’t mean the kind that’s supposed to flow in a copper wire, but can’t in Lebanon … or burns a house when it does … or fries a tourist walking on a street.
          I have mentioned in here in other ‘notes’ about happy-history times with ‘benevolent’ dictators and kings and various other kinds of monarchial systems. And stated that I’m sure even King Solomon had his detractors, but he was ‘in power’ and considered wise, and history is kind to him.
          When ‘We The People’ decided that one-man rule wasn’t enough in the growing populations of the planet, we opted for ‘groups’ – which often held sway because of the ‘belief-systems’. OR in some cases, developed over time generally workable systems where ‘the people’ voted to see who would control their countries for a time. And we need to ‘believe’ politicians and religious types will do their best for all of us, don’t we?
          SOME hate to give up ‘the power’ when they have it. And eventually, ‘the work’ is not ‘for’ the country, but only to keep ‘the power’. Aside from a dictator-family like Assad has, or even probably Saudi Arabia, the WORST EXAMPLE of this in recent history is Lebanon with SEVERAL ‘families’ only working for power. It doesn’t change. Cannot seem to get the idea that votes are for people who are supposed to do some WORK for EVERYONE, and make the place function, with equality under law, for everyone.
          The last vote (which may well be the last) was the best example of this ‘worst system’ which was supposed to be temporary to simply stop killings everywhere – in many cases, on a block-by-block basis.
          The best example of the converse in recent history, although there have been examples through history of those who GAVE UP POWER for the the COMMON GOOD, is the Australian government which knew it would lose the power making a law which removed all un-necessary ‘private guns’ from the country, but they did anyway. LO and BEHOLD, everyone did what ‘THEIR GOVERNMENT’ said to do, then voted it out anyway … And NOW everyone agrees it was a great ‘move’ to make, and Australia didn’t sink into the ocean because of it.
          Why did so many Lebanese – AND OTHERS – want to go there??
          And I’m not saying that this ‘power-tripping’ doesn’t go on in other countries … the USA isn’t ‘clean’ of it for sure, looking at very recent events.
          But those countries HAVE governing systems that ‘The People’ agreed to give power to FOR the sake of having a country – and to give it a few years to function; which, if it did, could manage to stay ‘in power’ under a free-and equal-vote concept. NO GANG is going to change that until they get a chance in a ‘next election’. Even if they still arm everyone to the hilt. AND If it came up with bad ideas or bad management … Poof !!
          LEBANON – seemingly loved by most here – HAS been given lots of good advice – lots of money too – and no-one confesses to the bad management.
          It might even have survived Assad … both one and two.
          But SOME want to keep ‘POWER’.
          I think you have a hope in hell of keeping this site a ‘dialogue’ of sober second thought. No-body in Lebanon is listening.

          • tayyardotorg

            i can see very well that you are not lebanese and you know very little about lebanon; we in syria know them very well and were all office boys to us; they used to queue in anjar to get an appointment with a moukhabarat officer like ali douba or ghazi kanaan: from the president of the republic to the prime minister to ministers and MP’S. As far as you know it all, lol, let me laugh: who ever sings your songs is good whoever does not is an idiot and you attack him; you need to get social reinsertion schooling before we the salafis come

          • 5thDrawer

            So I assume it’s your Salafist Idiots traumatizing Tripoli tonight.
            And it’s not even Friday … amazing.

            You have no viable alternative except subjugation – and it’s subjugation to an unworkable and rather beastly concept. Obviously hasn’t worked for centuries. Your ‘power-trip’ is simply mouthing off at anyone who won’t go down for you.
            YaLibnan will never find a solution with the likes of you.
            I have no intention of being ‘social’, Dork. That has nothing to do with good government for ‘all the people’, after all.

          • tayyardotorg

            solution to what? for breaking the monotony imposed by a bot like you which is stereotyped and sees things with blinkers!!! just repetitive obsessive compulsive charabia (assembly of incoherent words) reflecting your alcohol withdrawal delirium tremens. By allah if you did not exhibit this severe alcoholic addiction i would have said this is a computer program. Pssst pssst, between you and me i also think you shoot yourself with some highs but i wont tell the others; this will be our secret even though those who have minimum intelligence in here, less than the number of fingers in one hand, have already noticed it. But allah knows it all. Again, if you are not a robot, your only cure is salafism; nothing but allah will cure you from the social alienation alcohol and drugs put you in

      • libnan1

        Yeah, how about an article about the night life in Beirut showing pictures of some hot looking chicks rubbing … instead of pictures of people wearing table cloth on their heads.

        • Man I dont know who you are more obsessed with. aoun or chicks!! Horny womanizing bastard!!! lol

  • yalibnan

    This is to remind all our readers to respect the community . Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

    For those who are new to this site please note that Ya Libnan is all about fixing Lebanon.

    We want our readers to come up with ideas that if implemented will make lebanon a better country.

    Ya Libnan is a democratic venue that is open to anyone wishing to contribute any ideas to improve Lebanon. Our only wish is to maintain the civility of the discussions and that is why those who have not been able to abide by this rule have been banned from participating in this forum . We don’t want or expect anything from anyone …better lebanon is the only reward we seek. Help us get there!

    • IraniAngel

      in that case i have suggestion that will make not only lebanon but the whole middle east a better place. 3 weeks or so ago i came across a realively recent survey that showed that around 75% of lebanese regardless of religious and ethnitic background are strong supporters of the terrorist organization of hezbollah and the even crueler iranian regime which is responsible of the killings of 1000s of 1000s of iraniangels and which is responsible of the sufferings of iranianangels. i was simply choked when i first read it so i had to read it several times in order to take in the survey. how is it possible that the lebanese are like that??? we the iraniangels on the other hand have figured out these nasty mollahs and their evil aims ages ago but apparently that doesnt apply for the lebanese. if you want a better lebanon stop supporting a terrorist organization. by stopping your support to hezbollah and the iraniangels regime you would be amazed how the effect would reach way out of your own borders.

      • tayyardotorg

        i agree with you; i think you iranianangels should revert to salafism; the reason why lebanese support hizboshaytan to 80 % is that the devil is easier to follow than allah: the devil seduces. It is enough to see this alcoholic 5th drawer to realise HOW DEVASTATING THE SEDUCTIVE EFFECT OF SHAYTAN IS…

        • IraniAngel

          you are so funny but irrelevant

          • tayyardotorg

            ya shi3a kafer, ya sadiki; what is irrelevant to you does not mean it is irrelevant; only allah can tell what is relevant and what is not; sadak allahou al 3azim

          • 5thDrawer

            Et Voila.

        • 5thDrawer

          And if a Salafist Dork reverted to Aounism that would be bad too, I suppose. πŸ˜‰

          • tayyardotorg

            salafism is your only cure from alcoholism; the incoherence in your speech is attributable to alcohol

          • tayyardotorg

            i dont know if you noticed, you oscillate between states of dementia depending on your dose of drugs ingested or injected and sometimes like in this reply, you are in a paroxysmal dementic state; if you think being rude, using big words and attacking others will give more credit to your bankrupt collection of incoherent words, lol, then you are really funny however you add no fun to this blog. I think the yalibnan admins should seek new spirit to dynamise their blog. I reviewed the blog during the weekend and noticed that mostly al mahabeel assalasa write in it. Over the years, reading you is boring monotonous and insultive to anyone who contradicts your bahloul ideas probably based on some kind of interest (pleasing a generous master) or kinship. I dont know if you got enough neurons remaining which escaped alcoholic encephalopathy to realise that nobody is coming in here becaure of your aberrant abhorrent attitude which at best serves as a hypnotising tool which by itself against any attractive aim that people in politics or in business try to refrain from; hence i do not know why yalibnan is keeping you besides your function as a loyal canine guarding the door of the blog and barking, when you are sober, at any newcomer

          • 5thDrawer

            hehehehehehe … found me interesting enough to be ‘a cause’….
            Even if it’s a personal attack, it’s the longest most coherent thing you’ve written.
            Perhaps you should attempt something/anything outside of politics since you can’t work out how to be free of the ‘rules’ in one book – which is what holds a whole country down in the mud.

          • tayyardotorg

            actually i thank you for the rigidity and intolerance in your replies because you are advertising our salafi ideology; people usually criticise us for being rigid and intolerant; you are showing that you are more rigid and intolerant than us with a difference that we are slaves of allah while you are a slave of a master; many many thanks again, i bet if you had the possibility you would behead me

    • Heraclitus

      Send the Palestinian “refugees” to Syria, and absorb the Syrian Christians in the event of Assad collapsing. Get rid of Hezbushaitan and make peace with Israel. lol

    • 5thDrawer

      tayyadork just lost most of his comments from 3 weeks … imagine the re-write needed. :-)))

      • tayyardotorg

        i dont think yalibnan admin was addressing me since i believe i am the one most respectful to TOS and to bloggers as well as the one most subject to the calomniation of the stupidity of stray bloggers, drug users and alcoholic gangs in here

        • 5thDrawer

          and that’s one of the few in English .. πŸ˜‰

          • tayyardotorg

            esh eshbneh nezil dorkit wa darit

        • man-o-war

          Aww! Are people picking on you? I wonder why? Have you read your comments?

          • tayyardotorg

            ya oustaz (in syrian language); i do not care if kouffars like you are picking on me; allah will punish them because they are kouffar

          • IraniAngel

            i think… no i know for a fact that the kuffars are better than the nasty salafists. so it is the other way around. god will punish the salafists

    • Dear Yalibnan mod, first I want to thank you for your above comment, I personally appreciate the message and its sincerity.
      Sadly I have reasons to believe that there is no fixing Lebanon as a whole, what is Lebanon ? a people or a geographic address? as individuals we must start the mission within to be successful on a small personal scale and celeberate the ability to love and respect one another on reasons other than sect, religion or political alliances.
      Although there is no shortage of haters partaking in the comment box on a mission to feel psychologically superior by insulting and provoking others I must give yalibnan the credit for being the venue that allowed me to interact with many other Lebanese that truly display the ability to coexist and show a desire to leave a positive mark among us even though the rear view mirror shows a shameful past, it is those individuals that make it worthwhile to come back and visit and If I can suggest an Idea for a positive article for yalibnan it would be a weekly news segment of positive things taking place among Lebanese from all sides.

      • 5thDrawer

        Coming in right behind you, Geo.

        • 5thDrawer

          DEAR Mods:
          Happy thoughts, YaLibnan. But it IS a blog too … and there’s a lot of confused people ‘out there’.
          Which is ok … we can all learn something or have an opinion without shooting. Right?
          But having been commenting in here since before Assad began eliminating his general population, I have seen many great ideas ‘for’ a workable Lebanon – not the least of which have been in articles by people like Ghassan Karam – and functional opinions by others doing ‘comments’ – and I now have the opinion that NO-ONE IN Lebanon actually listens to rational thought – OR reads YaLibnan.
          And we can see the reasons it doesn’t happen to change, can’t we?? I mean, Besides the fact MOST Lebanese were smart enough to leave there when they had a chance and the place was filled up by Syrians or refugees from various other lands. (Lebanese always said ‘You’re welcome’. Of course that screwed them.)
          And I don’t put the religiosity at the top of my list of reasons – which will probably amaze the uber-religious in here, since they love to bring out ALL that irrational stuff any time someone dares to mention what anyone can read in any of ‘the books’, and I am happy enough to pot at them when that become stupid with it.
          The FIRST thing Lebanon needs is people ‘At The Top’ who will make it ‘better’. i.e. Workable. As a ‘country’ named Lebanon. Not some sectarian hodgepodge with both a president and a prime minister and a stupidly ‘confessional’ idea where no-one confesses their true desires … or who dropped the bombs … or even did a bad job.
          Really, it’s all about POWER … and I don’t mean the kind that’s supposed to flow in a copper wire, but can’t in Lebanon … or burns a house when it does … or fries a tourist walking on a street.
          I have mentioned in here in other ‘notes’ about happy-history times with ‘benevolent’ dictators and kings and various other kinds of monarchial systems. And stated that I’m sure even King Solomon had his detractors, but he was ‘in power’ and considered wise, and history is kind to him.
          When ‘We The People’ decided that one-man rule wasn’t enough in the growing populations of the planet, we opted for ‘groups’ – which often held sway because of the ‘belief-systems’. OR in some cases, developed over time generally workable systems where ‘the people’ voted to see who would control their countries for a time. And we need to ‘believe’ politicians and religious types will do their best for all of us, don’t we?
          SOME hate to give up ‘the power’ when they have it. And eventually, ‘the work’ is not ‘for’ the country, but only to keep ‘the power’. Aside from a dictator-family like Assad has, or even probably Saudi Arabia, the WORST EXAMPLE of this in recent history is Lebanon with SEVERAL ‘families’ only working for power. It doesn’t change. Cannot seem to get the idea that votes are for people who are supposed to do some WORK for EVERYONE, and make the place function, with equality under law, for everyone.
          The last vote (which may well be the last) was the best example of this ‘worst system’ which was supposed to be temporary to simply stop killings everywhere.
          The best example of the converse in recent history, although there have been examples through history of those who GAVE UP POWER for the the COMMON GOOD, is the Australian government which knew it would lose the power making a law which removed all un-necessary ‘private guns’ from the country, but they did anyway. LO and BEHOLD, everyone did what ‘THEIR GOVERNMENT’ said to do, then voted it out anyway … And NOW everyone agrees it was a great ‘move’ to make, and Australia didn’t sink into the ocean because of it.
          Why did so many Lebanese – AND OTHERS – want to go there??
          And I’m not saying that this ‘power-tripping’ doesn’t go on in other countries … the USA isn’t ‘clean’ of it for sure, looking at very recent events.
          But those countries HAVE governing systems that ‘The People’ agreed to give power to FOR the sake of having a country – and to give it a few years to function; which, if it did, could manage to stay ‘in power’ under a free-and equal-vote concept. NO GANG is going to change that until they get a chance in a ‘next election’. Even if they still arm everyone to the hilt. AND If it came up with bad ideas or bad management … Poof !!
          LEBANON – seemingly loved by most here – HAS been given lots of good advice – lots of money too – and no-one confesses to the bad management.
          It might even have survived Assad … both one and two.
          But SOME want to keep ‘POWER’.
          I think you have a hope in hell of keeping this site a ‘dialogue’ of sober second thought.

          • tayyardotorg

            i can see very well that you are not lebanese and you know very little about lebanon; we in syria know them very well and were all office boys to us; they used to queue in anjar to get an appointment with a moukhabarat officer like ali douba or ghazi kanaan: from the president of the republic to the prime minister to ministers and MP’S. As far as you know it all, lol, let me laugh: who ever sings you songs is good whoever does not is an idiot and you attack him; you need to get social reinsertion schooling before we the salafis come

          • 5thDrawer

            So I assume it’s your Salafist Idiots traumatizing Tripoli tonight.
            And it’s not even Friday … amazing.

          • tayyardotorg

            solution to what? for breaking the monotony imposed by a bot like you which is stereotyped and sees things with blinkers!!! just repetitive obsessive compulsive charabia (assembly of incoherent words) reflecting your alcohol withdrawal delirium tremens. By allah if you did not exhibit this severe alcoholic addiction i would have said this is a computer program. Pssst pssst, between you and me i also think you shoot yourself with some highs but i wont tell the others; this will be our secret even though those who have minimum intelligence in here, less than the number of fingers in one hand, have already noticed it. But allah knows it all. Again, if you are not a robot, your only cure is salafism; nothing but allah will cure you from the social alienation alcohol and drugs put you in

      • libnan1

        Yeah, how about an article about the night life in Beirut showing pictures of some hot looking chicks rubbing … instead of pictures of people wearing table cloth on their heads.

        • Man I dont know who you are more obsessed with. aoun or chicks!! Horny womanizing bastard!!! lol

  • yalibnan

    This is to remind all our readers that all comments should be in the English language in order for all participants to understand what is being written and allow them to respond. Comments that do not comply with this policy will be removed

    • IraniAngel

      ok

    • cook

      I know we’re typing in persian now but are we allowed to type in Arabic?
      I’ll stop my Hebrew from now on then :)) ΧΧ™ΧŸ Χ‘Χ’Χ™Χ”

      • IraniAngel

        i have to take off now… talk to you later

        • cook

          Bye!

      • yalibnan

        Only comments written in the English language are permitted. Comments written in any other language regardless of alphabet used will be deleted . This is to make sure that all participants understand what is being written and allow them to respond.

        • Hannibal

          Yalibnan
          Are you becoming an English language Nazi? πŸ˜‰
          I mean everyone knows that speaking in other tongues but English won’t reach most of the people… But entertain me a little here… Whose loss is it really? Isn’t it the blogger’s? Since he/she may not get their message across?
          You say that the site is to “make lebanon a better country” and what better country will it be when its people don’t speak Lebanese, the mother tongue on its own site. If this is a Lebanese site then it makes plenty of sense that we have English as a second language and Levantine Lebanese as its First…

          Note that Lebanese is NOT Arabic…
          Try to say rou7 ballit el ba7er to an Arab and you will get a puzzled face.
          P.S. I hope I won’t be adding an “el” to my name like poor Prophet’s “Tees”… lol

          • 5thDrawer

            Oh Hannibal …. they didn’t specify whether English English, or American English … so you have a lot of leeway still I think. :-)))))
            Keep an ‘Oxford’ handy just to bug people. :-))))))))

          • tayyardotorg

            me sbeak canadian englisi, is that okay?

          • tayyardotorg

            Only one previous lebanese prime minister did that before; ballat el ba7r

          • Hannibal

            tayyardotdog
            Obviously Yalibnan sees a very constructive person in you IF NOT they would have banned you long time ago.
            You have nothing to contribute but spew hatred and poison into every post. At this juncture I really do feel sorry for you. I will no longer respond to your posts like the dog you are you will bark and I will just carry on my way.
            I thank you for making the world and specially Lebanon a better place.
            If in a week from now you remain on this site I will yield to you as the level of this site has become too low for my taste.
            I will read the posts but stop commenting in protest…
            If in two weeks I see you are still posting here I will no longer visit this site.
            @yalibnan:disqus
            Please act on your words… I have no political nor religious nor personal qualm regarding this character… But honestly do me a favor and reread his posts… If you find them constructive by no means let him be… But if you do… I’m out!
            Yes I know don’t let the door hit me in the back on my way out πŸ˜‰
            So long!
            P.S. You banned this character more than 10 times before… Just to let you know. Like cancer he comes back.

          • Peaceforleb

            Hannibal, it was bad enough us losing Prophet. I think I speak on behalf of most on this blog when I say you should say. I have had some disagreements with you in the past, however with all the arguing and rants I was able to see that you and I and most on this blog share one thing which we are very passionate about. Our love for Lebanon. I hope you change your mind and continue to provide us with you knowledge and experiences. My friend take no notice of this idiot. What should happen is all sound minded people on this blog should no longer respond to this animal. And hopefully it will go away.

          • Hannibal

            Thanks Peace… I will stay ONLY if Prophet comes back πŸ˜‰ and Dab of course πŸ˜€

          • Amen to that Hannibal!! if you have not seen youtube video “what does the fox say” please check it out great entertainment but now we need to do a song “what does the Dab say” πŸ™‚

          • 5thDrawer

            Dab was the smartest on that … popped in, made his valid comment about ‘El Dork’, and went back to work feeding the damaged family. πŸ™‚

  • yalibnan

    This is to remind all our readers that all comments should be in the English language in order for all participants to understand what is being written and allow them to respond. Comments that do not comply with this policy will be removed

    • IraniAngel

      ok

    • Heraclitus

      I know we’re typing in persian now but are we allowed to type in Arabic?
      I’ll stop my Hebrew from now on then :)) ΧΧ™ΧŸ Χ‘Χ’Χ™Χ”

      • IraniAngel

        i have to take off now… talk to you later

        • Heraclitus

          Bye!

      • yalibnan

        Only comments written in the English language are permitted. Comments written in any other language regardless of alphabet used will be deleted . This is to make sure that all participants understand what is being written and allow them to respond.

        • Hannibal

          Yalibnan
          Are you becoming an English language Nazi? πŸ˜‰
          I mean everyone knows that speaking in other tongues but English won’t reach most of the people… But entertain me a little here… Whose loss is it really? Isn’t it the blogger’s? Since he/she may not get their message across?
          You say that the site is to “make lebanon a better country” and what better country will it be when its people don’t speak Lebanese, the mother tongue on its own site. If this is a Lebanese site then it makes plenty of sense that we have English as a second language and Levantine Lebanese as its First…

          Note that Lebanese is NOT Arabic…
          Try to say rou7 ballit el ba7er to an Arab and you will get a puzzled face.
          P.S. I hope I won’t be adding an “el” to my name like poor Prophet’s “Tees”… lol

          • 5thDrawer

            Oh Hannibal …. they didn’t specify whether English English, or American English … so you have a lot of leeway still I think. :-)))))
            Keep an ‘Oxford’ handy just to bug people. :-))))))))

          • tayyardotorg

            me sbeak canadian englisi, is that okay?

          • tayyardotorg

            Only one previous lebanese prime minister did that before; ballat el ba7r

          • Hannibal

            tayyardotdog
            Obviously Yalibnan sees a very constructive person in you IF NOT they would have banned you long time ago.
            You have nothing to contribute but spew hatred and poison into every post. At this juncture I really do feel sorry for you. I will no longer respond to your posts like the dog you are you will bark and I will just carry on my way.
            I thank you for making the world and specially Lebanon a better place.
            If in a week from now you remain on this site I will yield to you as the level of this site has become too low for my taste.
            I will read the posts but stop commenting in protest…
            If in two weeks I see you are still posting here I will no longer visit this site.
            @yalibnan:disqus
            Please act on your words… I have no political nor religious nor personal qualm regarding this character… But honestly do me a favor and reread his posts… If you find them constructive by no means let him be… But if you do… I’m out!
            Yes I know don’t let the door hit me in the back on my way out πŸ˜‰
            So long!
            P.S. You banned this character more than 10 times before… Just to let you know. Like cancer he comes back.

          • Peaceforleb

            Hannibal, it was bad enough us losing Prophet. I think I speak on behalf of most on this blog when I say you should say. I have had some disagreements with you in the past, however with all the arguing and rants I was able to see that you and I and most on this blog share one thing which we are very passionate about. Our love for Lebanon. I hope you change your mind and continue to provide us with you knowledge and experiences. My friend take no notice of this idiot. What should happen is all sound minded people on this blog should no longer respond to this animal. And hopefully it will go away.

          • Hannibal

            Thanks Peace… I will stay ONLY if Prophet comes back πŸ˜‰ and Dab of course πŸ˜€

          • Amen to that Hannibal!! if you have not seen youtube video “what does the fox say” please check it out great entertainment but now we need to do a song “what does the Dab say” πŸ™‚

          • 5thDrawer

            Dab was the smartest on that … popped in, made his valid comment about ‘El Dork’, and went back to work feeding the damaged family. πŸ™‚

  • 5thDrawer

    The real funny question is, with all that money, where are they going to spend it in that pile of rubble?

    • tayyardotorg

      do you suffer from piles?

    • Leborigine

      They will spend it on more weapons to create more rubble, lol my apologies out-dated weapons, and dog food for that imbecile troll AKA ayrdog

  • 5thDrawer

    The real funny question is, with all that money, where are they going to spend it in that pile of rubble?

    • tayyardotorg

      do you suffer from piles?

    • Leborigine

      They will spend it on more weapons to create more rubble, lol my apologies out-dated weapons, and dog food for that imbecile troll AKA ayrdog