Geagea: Hezbollah is taking Lebanon as hostage

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geagea  def 21Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea said in an interview with Free Lebanon radio station on Monday that the “phenomenon” of Sunni cleric Ahmad al-Assir was a reaction to Hezbollah’s activities in Lebanon, calling on all Lebanese to support the army and state given the clashes in the southern city of Sidon.

“The phenomenon of Hezbollah produced several other phenomenons, including that of Assir.” It is not about [the proliferation of] weapons, but rather mini-states leading to more mini-states,” Geagea said

“Assir is a big problem, but Hezbollah is the one that is taking [Lebanon] as hostage.”

“We are all citizens who enjoy the same rights and duties, but when one citizen sees that another enjoys superiority over him regarding these rights, then he is bound to react against this reality,” he said in reference to Hezbollah.

“Hezbollah has violated all laws and state institutions seeing as it revolts against any political issue that it opposes, which was demonstrated during the May 7, 2008, clashes,” Geagea said

“We believe that the army’s tackling of the situation in Sidon marks the beginning of addressing the possession of illegitimate arms and the presence of ‘statelets’ in Lebanon,” he added

“When a portion of Lebanese believe that they have the right to form an armed group independent of the state, then other Lebanese will follow suit,” he stressed.

“This is the mistake that Assir committed and the only way to end this reality lies in resorting to state institutions, starting with the army,” he said.

“We can no longer tolerate illegitimate arms, whether they are in Assir’s possession or Hezbollah’s,” he said.

Geagea added that the demand to eliminate Assir’s phenomenon should go a step further to include the arrest of those who killed Hashem Salman in front of the Iranian Embassy in Beirut on June 9.

“Tackling one phenomenon and not the other will not end the current situation in Lebanon, because similar armed groups will emerge in the country in the future,” he explained.

“The biggest problem lies in the presence of Hezbollah because failure to tackle this problem will create future ones and we will continue to move from one bad situation to a worse one,” said the LF leader.

“From now on, we will demand that the state perform its duties until the end, which goes beyond ending the unrest in Sidon,” he stressed.

“Where are Salman’s murderers?” Geagea wondered.

Salman, 28, the leader of the student section of the Lebanese Option party , was killed and several other anti-Hezbollah protesters were wounded in the June 9 demonstration, outside the Iranian Embassy in Beirut.

Earlier in the week the leader of the Lebanese Option party Ahmad al-Asaad blamed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and senior officials in the Lebanese state for Salman’s killing .

The firebrand Sunni cleric rose to prominence for his outspoken opposition to the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his calls for disarming Hezbollah.

Lebanese army commandos seized Monday the Mosque complex belonging to Sheikh Assir in the southern coastal city of Sidon, in the second day of clashes between the military and gunmen loyal to the militant preacher that have claimed the lives of at least 17 soldiers and more than 25 gunmen.

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429 responses to “Geagea: Hezbollah is taking Lebanon as hostage”

  1. dateam Avatar

    Please do not insult our intelligence and shift the blame….this guy has been brought in from the start to instigate sectarian strife…I ask who has funded this guy? Who is his paymaster? Hes the same paymaster as yours. He went to qusar long before hzb took photos of himself and plastered it all over facebook…calling for jihad….He even threatened that something would happen by sunday last week…the writing has been on the wall and certain politicians were giving him political coverage….foreigners are amongst the dead from assir’s side.The army general has made it clear what will be done so stay out of it….To call him a “phenomenon” is a denial of what the pig really is.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      But until Assir blocked a road seeking disarmament he was nothing. The religiously-newsy-folks played it up, and he was an overnight success. Geagea is right (again 😉 when he says “which goes beyond ending the unrest in Sidon”. You can’t support Lebanon’s army one day and not the next. And this might be the one warm-up to tackle Tripoli, and then Hezzy … messy, true, but you want the stupidity to go on forever??? Or you want to get to a point where voting can become a possibility?? You don’t like Geagea, then don’t vote for him either. But there must be a realistic separation of Lebanon’s institutions from all the countries wanting to overrun it – and ONE army working for Lebanon. We would like see ONE Lebanon.
      And everyone likes to dump on Hariri the elder and be quick to note his failings now … but when he was in charge, even for such a short time, EVERYONE felt good about ‘the rebuilding’ and the FEELING that something was being accomplished for Lebanon. Too bad some couldn’t wait for an election to move him on or out of the life of Lebanon.
      But that ‘feeling’ has been gone ever since.

      1. libnan1 Avatar

        Yes on army, it’s called the Lebanese Army 5th

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          What? They took ‘Forces’ out of the name LAF ??. (where are my notes …..)

        2. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Better named the Lebanese Army as Lebanese ” Fifth Column ” for Hezbushaitan and Iran

      2. dateam Avatar

        Sorry 5th you are wrong….the writing was on the wall with this guy…it wasnt a case of before he blocked a road he was a nobody….saida has lived in peace for a long time until this guy came along….noone told him he cant express his opinion but when he called for jihad in syria and went there himself he should have been pulled up…look now? He still is a nothing but he has become a “nothing” with his own army and weapons. and foreign fighters…Regarding the north they have been receiving political coverage from day one…6 soldiers have been murdered in qusar nothing done…when are certain sections of the community going to realise that when the army does its job they need to be supported and given the freedom to do so…not when things dont go their way they want the army to come in….they have stifled the army from day one…the north and borders should have been sealed from day one..now its too late….This guy assir is a dog calling for sunnis to dessert the army and the palestinians in the camps to fire on the army….dont be surprised if he disappears into the night as is already the case i think…Look at what gagea has said “assir is a big problem” he has not outrightly condemned him has he? Hes just a problem???

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Question: can the army move to dahyieh on a tip over the whereabouts of the 4 terrorists suspects of Feb 14, 2005 explosion?
          Question: can the army search south Lebanon for the guy who booby-trapped an elevator in baddaro?
          Question: can the army arrest thugs who killed on video a protester in front of the Iranian embassy?
          Question: can the army arrest those who fired rockets from ballouneh?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And then there was Wissam …. who functioned (too?) well for the country.

          2. dateam Avatar

            I think wissam was a lot more complicated than that….spy world his time was up his carriers took him out.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Ah that spy world…
            Always loved how people who criticize Hollywood the most are the same who believe Hollywood’s movie the most

          4. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            New movie for you coming up ” Vagabond 007 “

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Those who didn’t like honest and equal neutrally-applied ‘law’ took him out.

          6. dateam Avatar

            Yes they can. Im not defending one side against the other. This guy has blatantly attacked our army…the army has been attacked on more than one occassion now and it has lead to this.

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            “yes they can”
            Hahahhaa
            and he speaks of logic
            Hahhahaha

          8. dateam Avatar

            lets look at your questions…first 1 “a tip ” does that qualify an arrest warrant? stl needs to make its mind up first it was the syrians hariri went thewre and gave assad a hug…now its 4 memebrs from hzb but the hzb has not been accussed??? 2nd question..that whole assasination attempt is funnier than gageas attempt…the very concept of you asking these questions shows you feel that the army wopuldnt dare go in yet you seem to think hzb was behind a dead rocket fired the other day when they have missiles that can hit telaviv…those rockets are a classic example of palestinians stooges used or fsa used weapons there is no sophistication in it….regarding the death of the protester noone has stopped the army and the hzb has even condemmed it…where did you get your questions from assir or mustaqbal?

          9. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            stop stuttering like someone cornered
            this army of yours does not dare enter dahyie and the security zones of Hezbollah and this is a fact known to all and proclaimed by Hezbollah
            1- 4 terrorists have blown Lebanese people, regardless of their affiliation and no one in the army dares to lift a finger.
            2- you want to laugh at both geagea and harb’s assassination attempts, laugh, it doesn’t make them any less real, nor who the culprits are: Hezbollah members.
            3- they have missile that can hit tel-aviv but they’re using them on Lebanese. you’re going to tell me that Palestinians with rockets dare or can launch them from ballouneh? only the black vans of Hezbollah can drive with impunity wherever they want, undisturbed by army checkpoints.
            4- those who killed the guy in front of the embassy are Hezbollah, and what did the brave army do that day when a black shirt got a gun out and started shooting? they watched!

          10. dateam Avatar

            fact is you need to stop pointing the finger at everyone else…regardless of who you support or dont its your decision i dont really care but dont make excuses for the same people that caused naher elbared…..when you want to play with the big boys play but dont act like a baby when things dont go your way…accept responsibility for actions.

          11. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            nahr el bared was done with the support of your friends who were the only political faction not to support the army’s cleansing of the camp. Where did the leader of the terrorists there run to? Syria.
            Syria then was still under the tight grip of Assad, can a guy like this enter the Syrian territories without the mukhabarat knowing of his whereabouts? are you kidding me?
            When these thugs were smuggled in and out of Iraq with your assistance you called them heroes. When they came back to bite you they are now terrorists. hahaha.
            who is crying that things did not go their way?
            it’s you baby!

          12. dateam Avatar

            You are dillusional…naher elbared fighters were brought in by hariri,fatfat,and gcc to counter hzb after 2006 war…when the money stopped they robbed the bank and went in and slaughtered the army…250 saudi nationals were caught and whisked away back to saudia arabia…When they were caught they thought they were fighting to liberate palestine thats how brainwashed they are….

          13. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            right that’s why their leader ran to Saudi Arabia right?
            that’s why Hariri was the last to give the green light to exterminate them and nasrallah ran to the frontline…
            pfff you think you’re fooling anyone?

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Actually i remember nahrelbared hariri was calling for all to support the army and to turn in their weapons (mind you hizblshayton was still weak)
            While nasrlaat called on HA members not to get involved watsoever..
            The question is why wouldn’t you want to help the army clean up nahr el bared but all of a sudden you want to exile the sunnis when assir stood up and called on them to turn in their weapons? Simple.. “POWER”
            If HA were to support the army in nahrlbared that would mean that they would be the ones subject to handing in their weapons. They didn’t want that, whats HA worth if they dont have weapons?’nos frangi’.
            Now 2013 the tables have turned we see HA ‘claiming’ that the sunnis are thugs and should be exiled and have their weapons turned in and they are the ones “helping” the army but the difference is they themselves think they shouldn’t turn in their weapons because they want to forcefully control the country because it knows the LA dont have the nuts or are on HA’s payroll to try and exterminate these HA thugs. While hariri still sings the same song that ALL should turn in their weapons in order to have the ONE army we dream of the difference is this time his calling on all sunnis not to get involved.
            Just answer me one very simple question and forget politics for a second.
            Is it fair for HA to have weapons and the rest of lebanon not too reguardless of their objectives???

          15. dateam Avatar

            You watch assir will somehow probably disappear now.

          16. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            He did disappear and why shouldn’t he
            Every punk who shot at the army or blown people has disappeared, why not assir?

          17. dateam Avatar

            Reports coming out assir has fled to syria…FSA have said hes under their protection….your comment lacks any logic.

          18. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Coming out from where? Almanar or nbn or otv?

          19. dateam Avatar

            Again your assumptions are amusing…from now lebanon they have regular updates on saida situation…

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And nothing on Tripoli ….

          21. dateam Avatar

            its now on yalibnan

          22. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            أكد الناطق باسم هيئة أركان القوى العسكرية في الجيش السوري الحر العقيد عبد الحميد عمر زكريا أن “بسام الدادا لا علاقة له بالجيش السوري الحر والكلام يمثل رأيه الشخصي ولا يمثل الجيش الحر أبداً”، قائلاً: “لا صحة لما قاله بسام الدادا حول وجود أحمد الأسير في سوريا”.

          23. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            General Khawagi doesnt have the balls to stand up to anyone who supports Hezbollah. Cant blame him, who wants to become the next Wissam al-Hassan…

          24. kamille1 Avatar
            kamille1

            i feel your pain, but just because the army doesn’t have the right leadership, or the desire to not start another war in lebanon, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t support it when they do something right. when a lebanese soldier dies, he is not dying for ha, but he is dying for his country. and today they need all our support as lebanese..

        2. $53594500 Avatar
          $53594500

          the “they” u mention is Hez. the army does what Hez tells it to. the army (Hez )tried to arrest Asirs men and started the whole thing . they didnt investigate when Asirs men were shot in a car 2 weeks ago or when when Hez killed a protestor recently .I’d say the army is a corrupt and a joke. you are a traitor if u support Hez criminals !GO Assir

    2. $53594500 Avatar
      $53594500

      and last week hez threatened the govt. whose the real pig here. id say Nasralla. he’s done way m re evil to lebanon and i dont see you menioning that biased much ?

  2. dateam Avatar

    Please do not insult our intelligence and shift the blame….this guy has been brought in from the start to instigate sectarian strife…I ask who has funded this guy? Who is his paymaster? Hes the same paymaster as yours. He went to qusar long before hzb took photos of himself and plastered it all over facebook…calling for jihad….He even threatened that something would happen by sunday last week…the writing has been on the wall and certain politicians were giving him political coverage….foreigners are amongst the dead from assir’s side.The army general has made it clear what will be done so stay out of it….To call him a “phenomenon” is a denial of what the pig really is.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      But until Assir blocked a road seeking disarmament he was nothing. The religiously-newsy-folks played it up, and he was an overnight success. Geagea is right (again 😉 when he says “which goes beyond ending the unrest in Sidon”. You can’t support Lebanon’s army one day and not the next. And this might be the one warm-up to tackle Tripoli, and then Hezzy … messy, true, but you want the stupidity to go on forever??? Or you want to get to a point where voting can become a possibility??

      1. libnan1 Avatar

        Yes on army, it’s called the Lebanese Army 5th

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          What? They took ‘Forces’ out of the name LAF ??. (where are my notes …..)

        2. wargame1 Avatar
          wargame1

          Better named the Lebanese Army as Lebanese ” Fifth Column ” for Hezbushaitan and Iran

      2. dateam Avatar

        Sorry 5th you are wrong….the writing was on the wall with this guy…it wasnt a case of before he blocked a road he was a nobody….saida has lived in peace for a long time until this guy came along….noone told him he cant express his opinion but when he called for jihad in syria and went there himself he should have been pulled up…look now? He still is a nothing but he has become a “nothing” with his own army and weapons. and foreign fighters…Regarding the north they have been receiving political coverage from day one…6 soldiers have been murdered in qusar nothing done…when are certain sections of the community going to realise that when the army does its job they need to be supported and given the freedom to do so…not when things dont go their way they want the army to come in….they have stifled the army from day one…the north and borders should have been sealed from day one..now its too late….This guy assir is a dog calling for sunnis to dessert the army and the palestinians in the camps to fire on the army….dont be surprised if he disappears into the night as is already the case i think…Look at what gagea has said “assir is a big problem” he has not outrightly condemned him has he? Hes just a problem???

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Question: can the army move to dahyieh on a tip over the whereabouts of the 4 terrorists suspects of Feb 14, 2005 explosion?
          Question: can the army search south Lebanon for the guy who booby-trapped an elevator in baddaro?
          Question: can the army arrest thugs who killed on video a protester in front of the Iranian embassy?
          Question: can the army arrest those who fired rockets from ballouneh?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And then there was Wissam …. who functioned (too?) well for the country.

          2. dateam Avatar

            I think wissam was a lot more complicated than that….spy world his time was up his carriers took him out.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Ah that spy world…
            Always loved how people who criticize Hollywood the most are the same who believe Hollywood’s movie the most

          4. wargame1 Avatar
            wargame1

            New movie for you coming up ” Vagabond 007 “

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Those who didn’t like honest and equal neutrally-applied ‘law’ took him out.

          6. dateam Avatar

            Yes they can. Im not defending one side against the other. This guy has blatantly attacked our army…the army has been attacked on more than one occassion now and it has lead to this.

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            “yes they can”
            Hahahhaa
            and he speaks of logic
            Hahhahaha

          8. dateam Avatar

            lets look at your questions…first 1 “a tip ” does that qualify an arrest warrant? stl needs to make its mind up first it was the syrians hariri went thewre and gave assad a hug…now its 4 memebrs from hzb but the hzb has not been accussed??? 2nd question..that whole assasination attempt is funnier than gageas attempt…the very concept of you asking these questions shows you feel that the army wopuldnt dare go in yet you seem to think hzb was behind a dead rocket fired the other day when they have missiles that can hit telaviv…those rockets are a classic example of palestinians stooges used or fsa used weapons there is no sophistication in it….regarding the death of the protester noone has stopped the army and the hzb has even condemmed it…where did you get your questions from assir or mustaqbal?

          9. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            stop stuttering like someone cornered
            this army of yours does not dare enter dahyie and the security zones of Hezbollah and this is a fact known to all and proclaimed by Hezbollah
            1- 4 terrorists have blown Lebanese people, regardless of their affiliation and no one in the army dares to lift a finger.
            2- you want to laugh at both geagea and harb’s assassination attempts, laugh, it doesn’t make them any less real, nor who the culprits are: Hezbollah members.
            3- they have missile that can hit tel-aviv but they’re using them on Lebanese. you’re going to tell me that Palestinians with rockets dare or can launch them from ballouneh? only the black vans of Hezbollah can drive with impunity wherever they want, undisturbed by army checkpoints.
            4- those who killed the guy in front of the embassy are Hezbollah, and what did the brave army do that day when a black shirt got a gun out and started shooting? they watched!

          10. dateam Avatar

            fact is you need to stop pointing the finger at everyone else…regardless of who you support or dont its your decision i dont really care but dont make excuses for the same people that caused naher elbared…..when you want to play with the big boys play but dont act like a baby when things dont go your way…accept responsibility for actions.

          11. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            nahr el bared was done with the support of your friends who were the only political faction not to support the army’s cleansing of the camp. Where did the leader of the terrorists there run to? Syria.
            Syria then was still under the tight grip of Assad, can a guy like this enter the Syrian territories without the mukhabarat knowing of his whereabouts? are you kidding me?
            When these thugs were smuggled in and out of Iraq with your assistance you called them heroes. When they came back to bite you they are now terrorists. hahaha.
            who is crying that things did not go their way?
            it’s you baby!

          12. dateam Avatar

            You are dillusional…naher elbared fighters were brought in by hariri,fatfat,and gcc to counter hzb after 2006 war…when the money stopped they robbed the bank and went in and slaughtered the army…250 saudi nationals were caught and whisked away back to saudia arabia…When they were caught they thought they were fighting to liberate palestine thats how brainwashed they are….

          13. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            right that’s why their leader ran to Saudi Arabia right?
            that’s why Hariri was the last to give the green light to exterminate them and nasrallah ran to the frontline…
            pfff you think you’re fooling anyone?

          14. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Actually i remember nahrelbared hariri was calling for all to support the army and to turn in their weapons (mind you hizblshayton was still weak)
            While nasrlaat called on HA members not to get involved watsoever..
            The question is why wouldn’t you want to help the army clean up nahr el bared but all of a sudden you want to exile the sunnis when assir stood up and called on them to turn in their weapons? Simple.. “POWER”
            If HA were to support the army in nahrlbared that would mean that they would be the ones subject to handing in their weapons. They didn’t want that, whats HA worth if they dont have weapons?’nos frangi’.
            Now 2013 the tables have turned we see HA ‘claiming’ that the sunnis are thugs and should be exiled and have their weapons turned in and they are the ones “helping” the army but the difference is they themselves think they shouldn’t turn in their weapons because they want to forcefully control the country because it knows the LA dont have the nuts or are on HA’s payroll to try and exterminate these HA thugs. While hariri still sings the same song that ALL should turn in their weapons in order to have the ONE army we dream of the difference is this time his calling on all sunnis not to get involved.
            Just answer me one very simple question and forget politics for a second.
            Is it fair for HA to have weapons and the rest of lebanon not too reguardless of their objectives???

          15. dateam Avatar

            You watch assir will somehow probably disappear now.

          16. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            He did disappear and why shouldn’t he
            Every punk who shot at the army or blown people has disappeared, why not assir?

          17. dateam Avatar

            Reports coming out assir has fled to syria…FSA have said hes under their protection….your comment lacks any logic.

          18. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Coming out from where? Almanar or nbn or otv?

          19. dateam Avatar

            Again your assumptions are amusing…from now lebanon they have regular updates on saida situation…

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And nothing on Tripoli ….

          21. dateam Avatar

            its now on yalibnan

          22. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            أكد الناطق باسم هيئة أركان القوى العسكرية في الجيش السوري الحر العقيد عبد الحميد عمر زكريا أن “بسام الدادا لا علاقة له بالجيش السوري الحر والكلام يمثل رأيه الشخصي ولا يمثل الجيش الحر أبداً”، قائلاً: “لا صحة لما قاله بسام الدادا حول وجود أحمد الأسير في سوريا”.

          23. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            General Khawagi doesnt have the balls to stand up to anyone who supports Hezbollah. Cant blame him, who wants to become the next Wissam al-Hassan…

          24. kamille1 Avatar
            kamille1

            i feel your pain, but just because the army doesn’t have the right leadership, or the desire to not start another war in lebanon, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t support it when they do something right. when a lebanese soldier dies, he is not dying for ha, but he is dying for his country. and today they need all our support as lebanese..

        2. doobybro Avatar
          doobybro

          the “they” u mention is Hez. the army does what Hez tells it to. the army (Hez )tried to arrest Asirs men and started the whole thing . they didnt investigate when Asirs men were shot in a car 2 weeks ago or when when Hez killed a protestor recently .I’d say the army is a corrupt and a joke. you are a traitor if u support Hez criminals !GO Assir

    2. doobybro Avatar
      doobybro

      and last week hez threatened the govt. whose the real pig here. id say Nasralla. he’s done way m re evil to lebanon and i dont see you menioning that biased much ?

  3. Beauty-Full-Lebanon Avatar
    Beauty-Full-Lebanon

    It is the rule of a jungle , the strongest will rule , talk and reasoning does not make a difference , change should come from new generations of peace-loving independent minds

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right now, they seem to have been educated backward into the jungle again.

  4. Beauty-Full-Lebanon Avatar
    Beauty-Full-Lebanon

    It is the rule of a jungle , the strongest will rule , talk and reasoning does not make a difference , change should come from new generations of peace-loving independent minds

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right now, they seem to have been educated backward into the jungle again.

  5. Once Syria is cleansed of NATO “jihad” proxies, i think its time to clean Lebanon too.

    a “country” invented by the French needs a fresh start. Syria, Iraq and Lebanon should unify under a single democratic government, anyone who disagrees should be placed on a boat and sent to France.

    1. kamille1 Avatar
      kamille1

      “a country created by the french”??? how about we send you directly to the jewel of the middle east “iran” a country that was not created by the french..on a one way ticket.

      1. Yes, created by the French. don’t you know history? there was no Lebanese Republic before the French arrived and drew it on a piece of paper…

        Iran is lovely. lots of history and culture, great place to visit.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          How can the French create a country that was?
          Lebanon is a member of the UN charter… There is NOTHING YOU and your filthy likes can do about it… Go screw a mullah homo.

          1. you still haven’t told me when the “Lebanese Republic” was, prior to 1943? was it a member of the “UN charter”, as you call it, before the UN was invented?
            it must be magic…

          2. master09 Avatar
            master09

            What about Libya ,Egypt ,Syria ,Saudi Arabia , Bahrain. Xplain them. Was Egypt or others part of the UN before 1945. The whole of the ME was F… KED up dude.

          3. nothing was wrong with the Middle East. it was being occupied by the British Empire and France.

            the UN was invented in 1945, that was my point. my “friend” claimed the Lebanese Republic was a “UN charter” member from its invention in 1943… figure that one out.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            They simply recognized what was ‘there’ at the time.

          5. a fascist and a colonialist rolled into one… just like all the other empires that are no longer there.

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            You can’t deny history Hannibal, there was no trace of a COUNTRY called Lebanon before the independence in 43 even before the UN was created. Between 20 and 43 it was a French mandate (a nice name for colony) before that it was all part of the ottoman empire and the mountains only were somewhat autonomous. Lebanon in its actual border is not even 100 years old.
            Now Mount Lebanon is indeed old, but the Alps or the Himalayas are not a country…
            Please edit the last part of your comment…

          7. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            another SSNP? Hmmmm.
            Go give up your passport and be Homeless… You deserve it.

          8. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            you don’t want to mess with me today…

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            OK get your Mekenseh ready he he… Why not today? PMS?

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            OOooooo …. nasty. :-))

          11. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Hey check your passport, chances are it was signed by a criminal named jamil el-sayyed
            mabrouk 3alek the passport
            wondering why nobody gives you visas?

          12. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Do not care I have a US passport and a Swiss passport I come and go as I please but in my heart I am LEBANESE…

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Half of East Europe did not exist in its current form 10 years ago… What’s the point. You want to deny history so be it. But this asshole Ilan zubi is out of line to suggest Lebanon belongs to Syria.
            People have the right to self determination… A simple vote really… Who wants to be Syrian? Let us see where this will get you.

          14. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            be careful not to really put it to a vote of self-determination
            half the country wants to be Iranian (part of that half are half the Christians)

          15. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            As much as I am against Aoun’s agenda for the presidency I guarantee you it is all talk… Who wants to be part of that shit hole Syria? I can’t stand their friggin accent… moooooooo (It is like a herd of cows) moooooooo?

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Is that because they might get electricity ?? 😉

          17. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            There was no trace of a COUNTRY called Syria either, nor iran, nor Israel, nor Jordan, they were all dynasties, regions or kingdoms. so what is everyone’s point here??

    2. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      I think its time for you to go and f^ck yourself!
      You either must be a dumb jew or an intelligent ssnp, which on an IQ scale, is as smart as a dumb jew!
      Sick and tired of idiots always referring to Lebanon being part of something and was a French invention. If that’s the case, then give America back to the Indians, Australia back to the Aborigines, England back to the Britons, Moldova back to Romania, Finland back to Russia, etc etc
      Stupid stupid people. I thought qanso was on his own, but it seems that there are other idiots like him!

      1. *Yawn*

        “Indians” in America? whose dumb now?

        why not give everything back?! at least you know these lands were colonized. was Lebanon no colonized?
        before the French occupied Lebanon, was there a Lebanese Republic?

        wake up.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          ayre be yehudiitak… Leave this site as you do not belong on a Lebanese site… Ilan aal what a name… substitute the L with an R and the meaning of your name becomes two dicks in Arabic…

          1. is that it?
            i’m waiting for facts and all i get is fantasy…

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            The whole damn religion-thing is based on fantasy, Davidoffski … Some are nice fantasies, and some are not. And THAT’s a fact. The rest is politics.

          3. something we finally agree on.

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Hey Hannibal, tone it down, there is no need for such language. The guy is presenting a fair argument and replying with insults only proves that he has hit a sensitive spot. While this site is Lebanese, anybody has the right to voice his/her opinion without being insulted like this. I think you should delete your insulting comments and enter in a civilized debate. Apologizing would also be a major plus.

          5. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I will never apologize… I am a Lebanese asshole… and I tell him and his likes to come get an inch of Lebanon and they will all be pushed back…
            Long Live Lebanon L3 😉

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            you know that all you said is farts on tiles
            the Lebanese people haven’t taken one decision by themselves since that independence day.
            Who do you want to push back? Lebanon is already occupied by Iran through a good 35% to 40% of Lebanese who are mercenaries to Iran.
            Farjina ya battal

          7. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The problem actually are people like you… talk talk talk criticize criticize criticize
            and no action
            At least I acknowledge what ails us and I am doing something about it… Are you?

          8. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            lol don’t worry cannibal is only an online warrior 🙂

          9. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            I totally agree with mekenseh, Illan has you by your tiny balls and all you can do is abuse… Just like that other idiot debborigine.

            Everything Illan has said is fact and you and 5th haven’t been able to counter those facts. 🙂

          10. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            It is a well known fact that zionists and Salafi walk hand by hand… la ghouraaba…
            After all they are your cousins not mine.

          11. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            lol if you are going to use terms then know how to state them. Unless you are trying to imply “zionists and Salafi walk” on their hands. Which would then show how much of an imbecile you are.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            What ‘fact’ has he ‘won’ over mine … when it’s debate and not fact he prefers?

          13. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Nothing that illan said is fact. However, you being an idiot, now that is a fact!

          14. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            And a well known fact if you don’t mind.

          15. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            You being a donkey, now that is fact!

          16. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Can you hear me bray, eeyore eeyore eeyore.

            I take that as a compliment, at least a donkey has some intelligence, but an idiot will always be an idiot.

          17. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            Wow and you are answering an “idiot”?

            lmfao

          18. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            btw you admitting you are a donkey means your parents are too 🙂

          19. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Hahahaha, you are so intelligent…. what a fluffer lol
            BTW, good comeback, there you go, a couple of taps on your shoulder.
            Now f%4k off!

          20. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            Only fluffer i know is your mum

          21. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Wow, another good comeback, bravo ya shattoor. Yalla, go back to sniffing men’s anal cavities, it will do you some good.

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Wow … you ARE the modern one … can’t say ‘Indian’ any more, must be ‘Native’. Or is that now ‘Indigenous Peoples’. Gotta have the politically correct terms of any given century, right?? The whole Planet was colonized by Africans if you want to be really technical – although we really don’t know what they called it at that time, do we?

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol

          2. why use “Indian” in the first place?
            the moron Columbus was looking for India not America. if the various tribes of North America wish to be known collectively as “First Nation” or “Native Americans”, whats wrong with that?
            but they certainly not Indian.

            wow indeed, at least you do know something, we are from Africa but we’re Apes too. some more evolved than others.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            A sailor is seeking – bumps onto a shore – and a bunch of darker-skinned people pop up and say ‘How’ ??? What did you think he would call them? :-)))
            So why say ‘Moron’ about Columbus … considering the education and the general state of humanity of his time-period? And he certainly didn’t have all the world’s texts to browse first – and was mentally repressed by the ‘beliefs’ of his time, and it’s (various) ‘rulers’. You MUST say he was more realistic than DeLeon who searched for a ‘fountain of youth’.
            The fact Columbus got funded for another little trip, actually hit land before the ships sank or they all starved to death or couldn’t walk because of scurvy, was a minor miracle in the first place.
            You need to put yourself into the scene of history to understand it. And then be happy you live in the ‘now’ … which in another few hundred hundred years will have some laughing at us too, IF they are allowed to read the human-records at that time without someone chopping off their heads because they don’t ‘believe’.
            People can call themselves what they wish as far as I’m concerned … but they better begin to figure out soon that we are all in this together, and it’s becoming a freaking disaster with too many ‘on board’.
            Little enclaves of ‘purists’ on ‘reserved land’ isn’t helping them, or anyone else.

          4. Native Americans did not choose their “reservations”, by definition these are Bantustans.
            first you need to acknowledge that before you can further recognize the totalitarian society the United States is.

            as for the mass murderer and i will add moron, Columbus, there were already maps by that period detailing coastlines of the Caribbean and South America but being the moron his was, along with most of the Europeans of the day, he could not read Arabic.
            he did however employ Arab navigators to guide the fleet around the world to India… the original plan.

            no one is laughing at anyone else, some people knew already for 2000 years before Columbus that the Earth was not flat but Christianity continued to massacre anyone who held that view as the bible claims otherwise. this is not a recent discovery, this is a lack of understanding.

            yesterday, today, tomorrow, what really is the difference? (apart from technology)
            people are the same, with the same fascist, imperialistic tendencies as they always were.
            can you recognize them?

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Good thing we all speak English now, isn’t it? The tower was finally built. 😉
            No more lack of understanding. :-)))

          6. why should Native peoples leave their lands?
            their genocide has been a result of trying to maintain control of their lands!

            in 2013, as was the case for the past 50 years, trying to get Native peoples off their land has been the order of the day. zero development and induced poverty is well known. you use the propaganda term, “integration”.
            integration to what, is the real question?

            a totalitarian society like the United States refuses to recognize its history and reality. this you see everyday from Afghanistan to poverty in the States itself.

            the creation of the ‘Bantustans’ was exactly for the purpose of destroying Native American culture and forcing its “integration” into the slave ‘cult of flag and television’.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah .. I think the ‘American’ cult is a little weird too … is why I chose not to be in it. And if I wanted to be living in the ‘fish& hunt’ cult I could do that too. But it requires trecking with the herds to make it viable. You have to be ‘at one’ with nature, and keep taking the tents down.
            I CAN see that the ‘Reservation System’ was a totally BAD idea.
            And, I must say, that although the Buffalo herds have been built back up, there’s still too few to sustain the increased ‘native’ populations … and certainly not the ‘outsider multicolour fellows’ who came along after.
            You want to take the world back to perhaps ‘Post Black Death’ levels at least.
            Hmmm … maybe one idea the ‘Middle East’ is working on.

          8. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Arab Jarab…

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The only ape I see here is you… Last time you ate a banana you had an urge to climb a tree.

          10. Apes who do not eat bananas, have nothing intelligent to say!
            answer my questions or have a banana…

          11. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Life is a breeze when you’re LEBANESE

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            That’s a better rhyme than Libnan1 usually comes out with. 😉

          13. libnan1 Avatar

            5th, some students do better than their teachers.

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            hohohohohoho 😉

          15. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Aoun is a failure any student of his will do better… 😛 he he

          16. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            Once you go PERSIAAAAAAN
            There’s NO other VERSIAAAN
            I know its an old one but i couldnt help repeating it …

          17. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            LOL I would change Version to Virgin 😛 lol

          18. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Nice to see you are still laughing Irani …. 😉

          19. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            thats the spirit of a true iraniangel… always being able to laugh and be happy dispite how taugh life is, is what characterizes iraniangels… i have a friend who went to dubai two years ago.. she told me that the westerners in dubai were amazed how happy the iranians were and how they alway make joke and laugh… my point is very clear reminding what happened the day we beat souht korea… i am not exaggerating when i tell you that ALL iranians came out in the streets celebrating the victory… the streets all turned into green, white and red (iranian colors) we danced and sang all day and all night long… of course untill the po-po, baseej and undercover agents attacked us in Vali Asr Sq. Believe you me i was exhausted and yet i ran away so fast in order to escape these terrorist gangs… HAHAHAHA

          20. that depends, seeing that it only applies since 1943 and you only have a 30% chance of actually being indigenous.
            70% chance of being European, Indo-Ayran or Arab.

            the real question is, whats your haplogroup?

          21. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The haplogroup argument is moot… First let me tell you that I checked and I am from a European ancestry… That being said I will explain to you the sources as this is a favorite topic of mine:

            3000 BC the sea people (Europeans) attacked the Levant but left Phoenicia untouched (Scholars debated as to why would the sea people not only leave the Phoenicians be but integrate with them in a new alliance)… Scholars said right after this integration the Phoenicians gained real maritime skills and conquered the mediterranean basin.

            300 BC Hellenistic conquest… European

            First century AD… Roman conquest… European

            To be followed by Byzantium
            Then the cursed 7th century and the Arab expansion introduced the J1 haplotype and a nasty religion
            to be followed by a crusade… European
            Then to be followed by Ottoman expansion

            Although the argument of 30-30-30 haplotype where do you draw the line before you say any is Lebanese?

            Lebanon is a message of coexistence… our neighboring countries are striking that message as it is what holds us together and unfortunately they are succeeding.

            There is no country except few (i.e. Saudis) that are of pure blood… and frankly pure blood is ugly and retard… Not to mention boring 🙂

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Good Hannibal. I have a theory on that question ‘Scholars debated as to why …’
            It seems ONLY ‘British Sea-People’ really liked rowing the ship’s cannon to shore and humping them over mountains or through swamps – and THAT was much later in time. (Mad dogs and Englishmen …. 😉
            :-)))
            (Ref. Ticonderoga – New York; or one of the many Fort St. Louis’ – the one in Nova Scotia Canada.

          23. Now we’ve made some progress.
            You’ve confirmed that you hate Arabs, then you hate Islam and finally that your “Lebanon” is actually just a state of mind, not reality.

            your “favorite topic” seems to have forgotten the Egyptians, Hittites, Babylonians, Assyrians and Persians, all were up mount Lebanon too.

            your coexistence “idealism” is poorly placed and unconvincing. many countries have far more mix populations than Lebanon and they never killed each other at the level of this invented state’s civil wars.
            South Africa for all intents and purposes coexists. Russia? less people died in their civil wars.

            your date and identification of the “sea peoples” is hilarious. in your apparent studies, have you not visited the Obelisk temple at Byblos? and its Egyptian hieroglyphs of the “sea peoples” of Lycia? have you even been to Lebanon?

            you have certainly proved a lot of things but not your point. your understanding is based on hearsay and mockumentary television.
            reality still has not changed and all your noise and swearing still has the Lebanese Republic coming into existence when the French invented it in 1920 by drawing lines on a piece of paper and then declaring it a republic in 1943.
            since then Lebanon has been divided between NATO and Middle Eastern states in its continuing war for the Near East. A buffer to be caught in the middle of two Waring factions until one of them wins and Lebanon is absorb again, as it always was, except for briefs points in History.

          24. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Never said hate… Please do not put words in my mouth.
            I will answer one question:
            I was born in Lebanon and I lived throughout the civil war which I fought in to defend my non-Arab Lebanese identity…
            Countries may come and go… Lebanon still remains.
            Until then it is still the knife in your heart.
            Moving forward I won’t answer your questions and we agree on one thing: We disagree…
            God Bless Lebanon! Now you and your zionists brothers come and try get it…

          25. you won’t answer anything, because you can not.
            i know the Earth revolves around the Sun, no amount of slogans will change that. the Catholics tried and failed for 1000 years.

            please don’t be a silly boy now at the end, you implied hate and dislike.

            God bless Lebanon indeed! which one? your vision of it?
            reality is simple. like Lebanon as a state did not exist prior to 1920, it will not exist as a state in the future.
            nothing to feel bad about, israel too is on its way out. this is just how the world works…

          26. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            It does not matter… At the end I get all the votes up and your words fall on deaf ears… My views are popular in Lebanon. The Lebanese as a nation as a people and as its army choose to stand to tyranny and to usurpers and specially to assholes like you.. Hmmmm Who is really gonna be standing at the end? The answer is in the popularity indeed… I am popular as a Lebanese and you are a nobody because you HAVE NO nation.

          27. lol! you really are a funny one.

            who cares about “thumbs up”? i’m here because this silly little website supports the French view of Lebanon.
            you and the other 1/3 of Lebanon will always support the French view of Lebanon because that’s who Heri Denz invented this country for…

            this view that you hold so dear is dying in the Middle East, you are too blind and illiterate to see the end.
            just like all the other ends…

          28. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Who cares? The people who are voting me up as they vote you down…. HA HA HA
            Ilan Davidof the communist Jew…. he he he

          29. *Yawn*
            still can’t accept reality can you… shame.

          30. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            life is a breeze when you’re Chinese

            life is a breeze when you’re Vietnamese

            And so on
            Your childhood rhyme is actually a joke.

          31. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            As I said go crawl with your takfiiri zionist masters… You will be crushed like the roaches you are and your beards will be shaven and your bodies painted with lard before we send you to hell…

          32. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            keep your sexual fantasies to yourself

          33. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            for takfiiris everything is sexual… laa ghouraaba na7nou fii loubnaan norawidou al khouyoul al 3arabia.

          34. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            You’re a “takfiri”?
            🙂

          35. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            “Rich folks uses goose grease

            Po’ folks uses lard.

            My old man just spits on his

            And rams it in real hard.”

          36. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I told your mom not to tell… But what to do she gossips a lot…

          37. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Bravo ya shattoor!! Ayri bihanakak malla zkitt!

          38. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            Mate don’t talk about your penis as it’s the most embarrassing part of you. The last thing you want to do is draw attention to that pimple you call a penis.

          39. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You’re no longer hidden mate.

          40. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            No No No, your wrong. This dick is hiding, Hiding in the hole with ASSir. After all I was told by the source. 🙂

          41. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            brain dead unlike you i don’t hide.

          42. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Hey ball juggler! Hiding out in Australia, right? How does freedom feel? When are you going to join your brothers in jihad?

          43. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Soon God willing.

          44. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            When your mum lets go of my penis

          45. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Its amazing anyone can pinch tweezers around your millimeter peter for that long. #StrongWomen #millimeterpeter #Exposedaussijihadi

          46. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Its amazing anyone can pinch tweezers around your millimeter peter for that long.
            #StrongWomen #MilliMeterPeter #AussieJihadi

          47. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            I actually find it amazing how these scumbags can stoop so low because they are so dumb to come back with a smart answer.
            As I said before, once an idiot always an idiot.

            To be honest though, ignoring h.a.t. is the best medicine. An uneducated P.O.S.

          48. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            At least this time you didn’t attempt to dirty yourself. Good for you Leborigine, Good for you. lol

          49. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            lol, sorry to disappoint you Anti. I did dirty myself below. Disqus is a bit dodgy today.

          50. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Bro, all I can say is be careful. If you keep talking about balls, penises and licking to this clown, chances are he might think you are making a pass at him. lol

          51. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            5alas, that was my last response to this thing.

          52. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Which thing? There are many of them unfortunately? H.A.T. or this man without land Ilan? lol

          53. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Did you get that fact from Wikipedia or is it just speculation as usual. At least I am not embarrassed about it, the same way I am not embarrassed about my Lebanon like you are. A pimple for a penis is better than no pens at all you diseased syriansyphillis MF.

          54. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            oooh touchy about your penis size ay
            lmfao
            🙂
            hahaha

          55. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Small things entertain small minds, what can I say?
            This is the type of education your parents gave you, haha, ya 3aynee 3a hayk ahil. Shee bi5arree.

          56. hezzies are terrorists Avatar
            hezzies are terrorists

            yes your small penis does amuse me, so much so that i’m lmfao.

          57. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            hahahahaha it amuses me too because despite its size you still struggle to get your lips wrapped around it. No wonder you prefer to just lick the hairy balls

          58. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Leborigine, I’m ashamed of you after that last post. To think that you would dirty Ayrak with this jahash is beyond me. lol

          59. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            lol, you actually made me laugh Anti. Its good entertainment.

            This thing is a Urolagniac. Its a big fan of watersports.

          60. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yup … I think Hannibal got the biggest number of ‘ups’ in the pissing match. 🙂

          61. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            lol

          62. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Lol, that is a record for now, we have to aim higher.

          63. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Oh Dear … Short People will feel slighted now …. 😉

          64. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            What can I say bro, some people have weird fetishes.

          65. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Hannibal, take it easy on this fool. I mean if you had extreme pain in you rectum from years of abuse from a family member, how would that make you feel. Can’t you see how much pain this poor soul is in. Or maybe pain and pleasure. And Hannibal, no we will not shave their beards. If we do, how do you propose we clean our toilets then. I know you to be smarter than that.

          66. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            No I have to use the beards for the mekenseh of mekenseh party 😉

          67. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            lol

        3. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          Exactly!! Dumbness all around. You know exactly what I mean!

      2. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        Stupid people are the ones who resort to name calling and racist slur.
        Fight back with arguments not by insulting millions.
        While I disagree with his statement about NATO “jihad” proxies, Lebanon is indeed a country that was created through and agreement between the French and the Lebanese Christians who asked to be independent from Syria. This is when the country was created and was given the name of the mountains it surrounds.
        A redrawing of the ME map is in the making and soon you might see a copy of Sikes-Picot. Pray that this time they’ll take your opinion on how to draw it.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          with that argument let us make it Ottoman… We all belong to Turkey…

          Lebanon was not created… The aspirations of free Lebanon started long time ago even when the Maan were in control fighting Ottoman rules. Fakhr-al-Din was exiled and then executed for expressing the aspirations of all Lebanese (1500s) at having Lebanon as a free country. The French just gave Lebanon back to its people.

          If you want to go back even further down in the histories, in 1096 the crusaders on their way to Jerusalem found out that the Lebanese were hiding in Mount Lebanon and refusing to integrate with the Arab expansion. They were called by the Arabs a century earlier Marada.

          AND BEFORE in year 395 Under the Byzantine Empire, intellectual and economic activities in Beirut, Tyre, and Sidon continued to flourish as part of a Lebanese province stretching all the way to Baalbeck.

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Doesn’t change the fact that Lebanon in its current borders was not created before 1943 and the Independence. I don’t see why you so vehemently deny historical facts. A dozen European countries were born less than 20 years ago. No shame in that.
            What is shameful on the other hand is what the Lebanese people did with their new country… but that’s a subject for another day.

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I’m not saying it should go back to Syria, Turkey or the ZoroastriansJust stating historical facts: Lebanon as a country did not exist before 43

    3. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      How could it be invented when it was mentioned in the Bible by name some 5000 years ago when Syria was not even on the map… The truth is that parts of Syria and Palestine are Lebanese and not the other way around… Read the history.

      Lebanon is mentioned 71 times in the Old Testament.
      Both Temples were built with the cedars of Lebanon (1 Kings 5:15-24; Ezra 3:7).
      Solomon sent 30,000 workers to Lebanon, 10,000 per month, to obtain the cedar for the Temple (1 Kings 5:13-14)
      The “House of the Forest of Lebanon” was a public hall built by Solomon entirely of the cedars of Lebanon (1 Kings 7:2-5).
      First-century Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai, the last survivor of the Great Sanhedrin, reported that 40 years prior to the Temple’s destruction in AD 70, the Temple doors opened by themselves. He related the incident to Zechariah 11:1-2, in which he saw Lebanon as a symbol of the Temple.
      Lebanon is mentioned 7 times in the Song of Solomon. The beloved comes from Lebanon (4:8).
      The “cedars of Lebanon” is often used as a symbol of strength (Psalm 29:5).
      Jesus ministered in Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon (Matthew 15:21-28).
      In Jesus day, Lebanon was called Phoenicia. Some early Christians moved there to flee persecution (Acts 11:19).

      Lebanon is a knife in your heart ya 7maar…

      1. which bible are you reading that existed 5000 years ago?
        if you have one it would be the greatest judao-christian religious discovery ever!

        fairy tales from a book you call the bible is sweet but has no basis in reality.

        reality however does tell us of the name “Lebanon”, meaning “white”, in case you don’t know that either, refers to the snow caped mountains.
        Phoenicia (Greek) or Fenkhu (Ancient Egyptian) however was a state, Lebanon is a mountain.

        so i repeat. Lebanon or the Lebanese Republic was invented by France.
        France drew the borders on a piece of paper and Henri Dentz made it so…

        oh and Syria comes from “Assyria”, an empire that existed long before Lebanon was invented. the Roman Empire rehashed the name Syria for its province in the region, which i might add, included Lebanon.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Although you claim you know history and you don’t but I will entertain you… Let us suppose what you say is true… So come and get it… I dare you.
          Many tried ALL failed… You know why? because we are assholes and we won’t give it back… Lebanon (STATE ARMY AND PEOPLE) is ours forever. So fu*ck off!

          1. that’s hilarious.
            history and reality is the same thing. if it was not true, why not produce your evidence?

            “tried and failed” at what?
            Phoenicia no longer exists. you think they might have said the same thing to Cyrus the Great when he showed up?
            the Lebanese Republic has only been a state since 1943.
            you are too emotional for something that’s nothing in history. the world is much older than that silly book you read.

            wake up.
            in the real world Lebanon was invented by Henri Dentz as a French buffer in the Middle East…
            1/3 of Lebanon belongs to GCC intelligence. 1/3 to French intelligence. 1/3 to Iranian intelligence.
            why are you so upset?

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            You forgot the part where England gave it to France …. wondering what silly book of fairy tales you use.

          3. logic totally eludes you doesn’t it?

            i’m sure the Arab proxies, France and Italy will be rather disappointed that you trying to paint them out of the Sinai and Palestine campaign!

            the Sykes–Picot Agreement and Agreement of Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne decided the fate of the near-east, not your silly story you watched on TV.
            partition was agreed before the invasion not after… wake up.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Just Search ‘Lebanon’ in Wikipedia … 🙂 7000 years, actually.
            😉

          5. lol! Wikipedia! go back to school…

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Why anyone dumps on Wiki is beyond me. MANY people have put factual information in there – and as I said before, if it isn’t verified they tell you. Even then, it can be interesting. ALSO – Education is about more than a piece of paper from some school. I knew a man who worked at a lower-end-job, was a very good artist of birds, which he watched, AND an ‘acknowledged expert’ on fungus and mushrooms. Did not have a ‘paper’ in any of those … but if I was trying to figure out which mushrooms I could eat in a forest, I’d want his advice for damn sure. You must be someone under age 35.

          7. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            more like a teenage keyboard warrior… 😉 chi bekharre… laxative.

          8. Wikipedia serves its purpose to an extent but is useless for academic discussion.
            labeling Nazi Germany as a totalitarian state but not being able to use the same label for the USA is hilarious.
            Wikipedia is mostly based on mass “media” perception. the people that contribute have set values and beliefs and this is constantly visible in the dialog.
            Wikipedia does not analyze and certainly does not adhere to principles of logic and reason. how can it? piling a lot of low IQ brains together does not increase the IQ.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            So, now you think there should be ‘academic discussion’ in an encyclopaedia ???
            Well, I don’t know what things you ‘look up’, but I would not be looking for ‘academic discussions’ when I’m looking for factual information. And if I see a lot of cross-referencing – which Wiki supplies in factual articles written by descent authors – I can search that as well, to see where an author has obtained the information – which is supposed to be factual.
            Scroll to the bottom of pages … it helps not to just read headlines.
            THIS BLOG is an ‘academic discussion’. Wiki is NOT.
            No wonder you don’t like it … you can’t debate in it … only ‘contribute’ if you know something – and that will be scrutinized as well, before being allowed to stay.
            If you want to make it better, contribute some money to help pay the ‘staff’.

          10. can you debate a fact?
            can you cross-reference the Earth revolving around the Sun?

            wikipedia is primarily based on “media” and general perception, regardless of facts.
            it believes jesus is god incarnate, just as it believes that Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel. it however does not believe that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus exists, instead calling it “Northern Cyprus” as fact?

            Wikipedia believes Charles Taylor is a war criminal but not George Bush? this is “media” perception based on NATO’s ICC.

            Wikipedia is not fact based. you can’t “fix” it.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Then YOU should go in and add your ‘bits’.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well then, I see I simply must run that quote again,
            “Truth is eternal, knowledge is changeable. It is disastrous to confuse them.” – Madeleine L’Engle

          13. That’s hilarious! “young-adult fiction” writer? explains a lot.
            truth is debatable, facts are eternal. her truth comes from a badly written fiction called the bible. i wouldn’t take anything she says seriously, seeing that she has a different option from the very book “written” by the god she believes in.

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ah. Now it’s a different God. YOU are a dork.

          15. your academia is showing… be careful.

          16. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Wikipedia is not fact based? Are you smoking crack? You can actually wiki crack cocaine and learn all kinds of FACTS about it, it will even have sources at the bottom. Amazing!!! Sources include scientific articles written by real scientists with graphs and such. WTF are you talking about? If you don’t like the sources used for that particular subject you looked up then use another method of research. If you’re writing a paper for a university class then I would not use Wiki as my source, but I would use the sources cited on wiki to help with my research.

          17. if you just joined the conversation, at least have something you back up your nonsense before you open your mouth!
            first i would suggest reading the entire timeline.

          18. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            So you want Wikipedia and the general public to believe that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus exists and yet deny the modern state of Lebanon because of its pre 1943 borders! You know what, I am convinced that you are a tool. BTW, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and that is a fact that I believe in, whether you like it or not.

          19. who said i “deny” Lebanon exists?

            i said the Lebanese Republic has existed since 1943. is that in question?
            i said the borders of Lebanon were drawn by the French who invented a buffer state we now call Lebanon. is that in question?

            the problem the people here have, is that their under the impression that a country called “Lebanon” has always existed and somehow disappeared from history only to be reborn when Henri Denz thought of it…

            i know you “believe” Jerusalem is the capital of israel. a few million people do but the rest of Earth does not.
            no country on this Planet, perhaps countries from the Planet you’re from, but this planet Earth, does not have an embassy in jerusalem. the law of nations state that your ambassador must be represented in the country’s capital. none exists in jerusalem.

            this is a historical precedent of epic proportions. not even the ancient empires did something like this.

          20. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Wikipedia has sources ……

          21. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Something is awol from your brain as you pick and choose as you see fit in history to push your agenda…
            Let us discuss the Levant under Mu3awiya (700AD)… Mu3awiya organized the Arab new conquest into 4 districts: He split Phoenicia Maritima between Jordan and Damascus (no reference to Syria — bilad al sham) according to the historian Kamal Salibi… Splitting Lebanon into two provinces… A south from the Mount of Lebanon. The Lebanese were always coordinating revolts after revolt seeking alliances within the emerging communities of Druze and Shiites.
            It is also recorded that a historian recording the conquests of Sala7udin against the Crusaders as saying “I was almost killed in the Lebanon” referring to the Northern territories of Jerusalem as Lebanon was the substitute name of Phoenicia which extended from Acre to Ebla in northeast Syria.
            So whether the land was occupied by “invaders” or not the aspirations of the local population never changed. Namely a FREE LEBANON… Many died for it and it will never be part of a bigger country. Actually Syria will be split back into smaller pieces as will Iraq because religion is embedded into the makeup of the Levant.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And the whole will no longer be as productive as the sum of it’s parts have been.
            Lebanon would do well to observe.
            ALL the people – and refugees who may choose to move back to the rubble – will suffer under this arrangement, thanks to Assad and his crew.
            But in truth, at this point in history, it may be the only way to have them stop killing each other …. at least, until they catch their breath and another megalomaniac comes along … remembering that the Supreme one is waiting in the wings.
            The idiocy of the religious.

          23. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            As I said: it belongs to US LEBANESE so come get it… Many tried… Yes… The Palestinians, the Syrians, the Israelis, and now the Iranians… They will all end up as fish food… and we remain…
            sawfa nabqa youridou amm la youridou el ghayr ya ayr…

          24. you’re a funny guy… no brain but funny.

    4. Beiruti Avatar

      You are just as low as the family you come from, you immoral zionist rat.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        LOL EXACTLY!!!!

      2. cook2half Avatar
        cook2half

        zionists only hate Hezolshaytan , we have nothing against Lebanon !!!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Now you’re a Zionist?? Is that why you can’t do Scotch??
          How do you feel about ‘clothing optional’ beaches?

          1. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yup am a zionist but not Jewish , special case you know 😉 drinking is not in my culture (Iranian culture) .

            I prefer the non-clothing beaches in europe hehe

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Viva La France. 🙂
            Why are you burning Olive-trees?

          3. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            olive trees ? you mean in the west bank ? I actually dont know anything about that , both the Jews and the Arabs that live in the South are very very different than the ones in Haifa

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And, like in Lebanon, we’re talking peoples separated by SO Many miles ….
            Understandable differences … yes.

      3. AntiFSA Avatar

        You unbelievable Beiruti, always attacking ones family when you don’t like what you hear. Stop being a child in the play who has lost his toy and counter with facts not insults. Especially insults to family.

    5. The real lebanese Avatar
      The real lebanese

      I think you should move to Iran. Atleast you will get some support there.

      1. who needs support when you have facts.
        nothing serious from these people… just noise.

        1. The real lebanese Avatar
          The real lebanese

          I think its a fact that none of these countries want to combine. Their each having there own problems and combining it would make a state with three seperate problems. Plus the shiite would be singled out resulting in a bigger regional war(noting that Syria already is one). And im not sure if you are but judging from your past comments im assuming you are shiite, but the shiites are being called out in all three countries so this really isnt your smartest move.

          1. no i am not Shiite.
            i agree, the aforementioned countries are unlikely to unify but their political outlook appears to be heading in the same direction. that was the only reason for my suggestion.

            i’m not sure what you are trying to imply by Shiites being “caught out”? this seems to be a paradox for this region.
            on the one hand you have a Sunni religious establishment that hates shia’s but have military bases and CIA offices of the enemies. then you have “wrong version” of Islam, the Shia’s who are apparently opposed to the enemies of Islam.

            even the “mujaheddin” are armed, trained and funded by the CIA… delusion and confusion seems to be the order of the day.

            as for the apparent problems of the 3 countries, what are they? sectarianism?
            sponsoring of various groups by external forces is not a “problem”, its aggression. destabilization is the order of the day.

          2. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            True but I think it would be better for their ‘destabilizations’ to happen separately so we dont risk seeing a world war 3. Their political outlooks are heading in the same direction, and I do agree that external forces are playing a significant role, but I dont think external forces have anything to do with the start of the uprisings. I think they just jump in to grab some credit later.

          3. The start of the uprisings, especially Tunisia, Yemen (which had been going for a while), Bahrain and Egypt, i can agree were spontaneous… most of the other protest, including Syria, which you have to agree were no where as massive or convincing… people protest in New York too but OWS is not labelled a “revolution” by the “media”.

            taking advantage of protests is exactly the game being played. it played in Libya and now in Syria. Bahrain and Yemen is not less of a “revolution” than the later two but that does not serve the interests of NATO, so they are downplayed and crushed with no serious noise from the “media”.

            Libya and Syria has direct NATO involvement. Libya was unfortunate as it involved direct NATO invasion, this method however was blocked by Russia in Syria.

            the problem people are having is not only recognizing the Syrian war for what it is, (there are many examples, such as Contras and Unita) but also with the added dimension of sectarianism and religious fanaticism, people are confused.

            WWIII is an unfortunate reality that is coming…

  6. Yes, it is a double standard. Four Hezbollah members killed Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Is the LAF going after all of Hezbollah or are they just going after the four killers? Actually, they are going after none of them, since Hezbollah is protecting the four killers of Rafik Hariri. Now, it looks like one lone follower of Assir may have killed the two Lebanese soldiers. Does the LAF go after just the guilty person or does it go against the whole group? It looks like the LAF is now doing the dirty work for HA in Lebanon while the HA is away and busy killing in Syria. Many can see through all of this.

    1. libnan1 Avatar

      No LAF are not doing the work of nobody. They are protecting the innocent from the criminals you support. If the LAF let HA take care of your buddies every single Sunni and Geagea would screamed foul but when LAF cleaned things up you accused them of doing HA work. The same shit happened before with the PLO. Why don’t you all go to Syria and fight HA in Syria, virgins will be waiting for you in your heaven, I think the latest count is 72 ….

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        My take is to dissolve orangina party and you traitors join the SSNP and change the color of the zawba3a to Orange… I mean save us the time and cut to the chase.

      2. A security source said that the Lebanese army and the Hezbollah-affiliated Resistance Brigades were coordinating together in the clashes in the southern city of Sidon.

        “Lebanese Army [members] are fighting [alongside] other members of the Resistance Brigades, and are coordinating together,” the source told NOW.

        The source also said that army members and members from the Resistance Brigades were seen “greeting each other.”

        “Members of the Resistance Brigades were seen from time to time near the Lebanese army’s tanks,” the source added.

        The source also accused Hezbollah of being behind the eruption of clashes between Assir’s supporters and the army.

        “Hezbollah managed to get the army involved [in clashes against] Assir… in an attempt to kill him,” the source said.

        The source also said that 200 militants from the Resistance Brigades arrived to the Ain al-Hilweh Palestinian refugee camp, and surrounded all its entrances.

        “The Lebanese army witnessed this [operation],” the source added.

        However, the source also said that the army reopened the entrances of the refugee camp to allow its residents to flee.

        The source also said that the Lebanese army and the Hezbollah-affiliated militants were targeting members of the Jund as-Sham organization inside Ain al-Hilweh.

        An eyewitness also told NOW that as he was trying to enter the Ain al-Hilweh camp, members of the Resistance Brigades asked him to retreat immediately, “because the Lebanese army will start shelling the area after half an hour.”

        The eyewitness also said that “Resistance Brigades members were raiding houses in the Al-Ommal area in Sidon to identify members affiliated with Assir.”

        1. libnan1 Avatar

          And your point is …. this is the way supposed to work people helping the army protect its back not like your people shooting at the army from the back when it attacked the PLO way back then. Sunnis need to lean something from the resistance.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The source also accused Hezbollah of being behind the eruption of clashes between Assir’s supporters and the army.“Hezbollah managed to get the army involved [in clashes against] Assir… in an attempt to kill him,” the source said.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I heard they were standing on THEIR roof-tops orchestrating the battle. 😉

          3. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The “source” also accused the decapitated civilians in a newly released video faked the whole thing and blamed it on jihadist.

            The “source” also accused Geagea of being Assir real father and that he disowned him when he was 10 for chronic masturbation.

          4. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I knew it. There is something about ASSir and Geagea that is familiar. They both look like donkeys. lol

          5. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            It’s a fun game! You should join in the fun of playing the new and exciting game of “The source also said…”

          6. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ok, I’m in. The source also said that ASSir takes it up the ass. Your turn.

          7. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The source also said that Assir was a character in Harry Potter, he played the Nimbus 2000. The fastest broom at Hogwarts!

          8. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ha Ha Ha Ha, I tell you what, that ASSir gets around. He wanted fame and now his got it. The source also said that ASSir has just been sponsored by Caroma as a new face of the toilet brush range.

          9. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Man o, you have another Ball juggler fan. This one is as arrogant as they come. However be careful as it bits. lol

          10. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Just like AOun and Nassrallah do it too..AOun acts like he always got a cork screwing his butt. that’s explains why he is always angry..

          11. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Nagy, I get it, you don’t like Aoun and Nasrallah. Why do you keep telling me. Haven’t you realized I REALLY DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Keep your kara comments to someone who really gives a shit. Or at the very least someone who takes notice of you.

          12. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            obviously if you didn’t care to comment you would not have. keep your kara crap out of lebanon starting with Dahia and the beautiful south that you turned it into hell. your nassrallah is no different that Arafat.. you’re the source of evil in lebanon more than israel itself. your HA are no different than the Salfists its just they act differently but in the end wants the same control and turn LEbanon into Islamic states following the ruling of the GOdfather of drugs in Tehran..

          13. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Thats why I hate opening champagne bottles! Corks can be so dangerous sometimes, unless your into that type of thing. Nagy?

          14. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            while he has Strida why would he masturbates.. your comments are so gay and only dumg ass would make such comments.

          15. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Hey Nagy, don’t blame me bro. I was just quoting the source. Breaking news: New source said that previous comment about masturbation was untrue, because “while he has Strida why would he masturbate”. According to the source Assir has been banging Strida and therefore would have no need to masturbate.

          16. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            the source also says you were giving me a Blow jo..

          17. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Another player of “The source also said…”!!!!

            The source also said that an unnamed eyewitness has spotted Assir. The source said that Assir was seen yelling at Nagy over and over again while standing over him. When asked to state what he had heard, the witness said he heard Assir screaming at Nagy “All jaw, no hands, b*&^ch you know you like that” as Nagy was on his knees doing a damn fine job following directions. When Nagy was later confronted by the eyewitness to what he was doing he said “no comment”

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Like I told you Man o, as arrogant as they come. You should however give IT a round of applause for coming out. I’m also throwing in some money for IT to buy some tooth picks so IT can pick ASSir’s pubic hair out of IT’S teeth. IT’S going to need a hell of a lot.

          19. daiber Avatar

            yu tubji mr yu like from back mr tubji yu say gay no good mr yu do 69 to another tubji mr

          20. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I knew you were that way inclined. Good for you, Good for you for finally coming out.

          21. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you. Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man and he will add to his learning.

            Now back to my coffee 😉

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Too reasonable, in light of the rest of this overly-long pile of commentary. :-)))

          23. jojoblackiswhite Avatar
            jojoblackiswhite

            i likey

          24. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            of course and they want to embarrass the President in the process. I would not be surprised if the snipers where hezzie in order to implicate the sunnis. Never ASSIR men attacked any christians in Saida.. and they called him extremists..he always preached peace with other religion and even blessed the visit of the pope.. I think this is was a big setup by Nassrallah and his gangs to get rid of him. They have succeeded allright..

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          The “source” also said that up until last year Assir was hiding out as a monkey.

          The “source” also said that 1 million Salafist are fighting in Syria with the backing of the Lebanese government.

          The “source” also said that the real killer of Hariri was his son posing as a HA agent.

          The “source” also said that UFO’s are real and there were also unnamed eyewitnesses that verified the story.

          The “source” also said that there was a source leaking top secret information about HA.

          The “source” also said…your turn!

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        when LAF were trying to clean the camp in Tripoli HA Nassrallah said the camp is a red line. NEver I heard Nassrallah or any HA says anything bad about the salfists who slaughtered the army then. Everytime a HA involved in any killings he hides in dahia and no one dares to touch them. We’re supporting the army no matter where its in lebanon. the army is allowed in many areas in lebanon except in HA stronghold. Besides it was HA who have been instigating all the problems. I would not be surprised if their snipers killed the army to pit them against the SUnnis then ASSIR. yes finally they left the appt. complex after Assir left.. HA created ASSIR and other extremists in Lebanon. And Aoun the clown is supporting them including the killing of Corp. Hana..you guys say the guy who shot him did his time. baloney.. 1 year for killing a lebanese soldier..I hope you and the salfist and your HA crap go to hell and leave lebanon in peace not in pieces..

  7. Yes, it is a double standard. Four Hezbollah members killed Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Is the LAF going after all of Hezbollah or are they just going after the four killers? Actually, they are going after none of them, since Hezbollah is protecting the four killers of Rafik Hariri. Now, it looks like one lone follower of Assir may have killed the two Lebanese soldiers. Does the LAF go after just the guilty person or does it go against the whole group? It looks like the LAF is now doing the dirty work for HA in Lebanon while the HA is away and busy killing in Syria. Many can see through all of this.

    1. libnan1 Avatar

      No LAF are not doing the work of nobody. They are protecting the innocent from the criminals you support. If the LAF let HA take care of your buddies every single Sunni and Geagea would screamed foul but when LAF cleaned things up you accused them of doing HA work. The same shit happened before with the PLO. Why don’t you all go to Syria and fight HA in Syria, virgins will be waiting for you in your heaven, I think the latest count is 72 ….

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        My take is to dissolve orangina party and you traitors join the SSNP and change the color of the zawba3a to Orange… I mean save us the time and cut to the chase.

      2. A security source said that the Lebanese army and the Hezbollah-affiliated Resistance Brigades were coordinating together in the clashes in the southern city of Sidon.

        “Lebanese Army [members] are fighting [alongside] other members of the Resistance Brigades, and are coordinating together,” the source told NOW.

        The source also said that army members and members from the Resistance Brigades were seen “greeting each other.”

        “Members of the Resistance Brigades were seen from time to time near the Lebanese army’s tanks,” the source added.

        The source also accused Hezbollah of being behind the eruption of clashes between Assir’s supporters and the army.

        “Hezbollah managed to get the army involved [in clashes against] Assir… in an attempt to kill him,” the source said.

        The source also said that 200 militants from the Resistance Brigades arrived to the Ain al-Hilweh Palestinian refugee camp, and surrounded all its entrances.

        “The Lebanese army witnessed this [operation],” the source added.

        However, the source also said that the army reopened the entrances of the refugee camp to allow its residents to flee.

        The source also said that the Lebanese army and the Hezbollah-affiliated militants were targeting members of the Jund as-Sham organization inside Ain al-Hilweh.

        An eyewitness also told NOW that as he was trying to enter the Ain al-Hilweh camp, members of the Resistance Brigades asked him to retreat immediately, “because the Lebanese army will start shelling the area after half an hour.”

        The eyewitness also said that “Resistance Brigades members were raiding houses in the Al-Ommal area in Sidon to identify members affiliated with Assir.”

        1. libnan1 Avatar

          And your point is …. this is the way supposed to work people helping the army protect its back not like your people shooting at the army from the back when it attacked the PLO way back then. Sunnis need to lean something from the resistance.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The source also accused Hezbollah of being behind the eruption of clashes between Assir’s supporters and the army.“Hezbollah managed to get the army involved [in clashes against] Assir… in an attempt to kill him,” the source said.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I heard they were standing on THEIR roof-tops orchestrating the battle. 😉

          3. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The “source” also accused the decapitated civilians in a newly released video faked the whole thing and blamed it on jihadist.

            The “source” also accused Geagea of being Assir real father and that he disowned him when he was 10 for chronic masturbation.

          4. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I knew it. There is something about ASSir and Geagea that is familiar. They both look like donkeys. lol

          5. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            It’s a fun game! You should join in the fun of playing the new and exciting game of “The source also said…”

          6. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ok, I’m in. The source also said that ASSir takes it up the ass. Your turn.

          7. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The source also said that Assir was a character in Harry Potter, he played the Nimbus 2000. The fastest broom at Hogwarts!

          8. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Ha Ha Ha Ha, I tell you what, that ASSir gets around. He wanted fame and now his got it. The source also said that ASSir has just been sponsored by Caroma as a new face of the toilet brush range.

          9. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Man o, you have another Ball juggler fan. This one is as arrogant as they come. However be careful as it bits. lol

          10. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Just like AOun and Nassrallah do it too..AOun acts like he always got a cork screwing his butt. that’s explains why he is always angry..

          11. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Nagy, I get it, you don’t like Aoun and Nasrallah. Why do you keep telling me. Haven’t you realized I REALLY DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Keep your kara comments to someone who really gives a shit. Or at the very least someone who takes notice of you.

          12. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            obviously if you didn’t care to comment you would not have. keep your kara crap out of lebanon starting with Dahia and the beautiful south that you turned it into hell. your nassrallah is no different that Arafat.. you’re the source of evil in lebanon more than israel itself. your HA are no different than the Salfists its just they act differently but in the end wants the same control and turn LEbanon into Islamic states following the ruling of the GOdfather of drugs in Tehran..

          13. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Thats why I hate opening champagne bottles! Corks can be so dangerous sometimes, unless your into that type of thing. Nagy?

          14. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            while he has Strida why would he masturbates.. your comments are so gay and only dumg ass would make such comments.

          15. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Hey Nagy, don’t blame me bro. I was just quoting the source. Breaking news: New source said that previous comment about masturbation was untrue, because “while he has Strida why would he masturbate”. According to the source Assir has been banging Strida and therefore would have no need to masturbate.

          16. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            the source also says you were giving me a Blow jo..

          17. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Another player of “The source also said…”!!!!

            The source also said that an unnamed eyewitness has spotted Assir. The source said that Assir was seen yelling at Nagy over and over again while standing over him. When asked to state what he had heard, the source said he heard Assir screaming at Nagy “All jaw, no hands, b*&^ch you know you like that” as Nagy was on his knees doing a damn fine job following directions. When Nagy was later confronted by the eyewitness to what he was doing he said “no comment”

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Like I told you Man o, as arrogant as they come. You should however give IT a round of applause for coming out. I’m also throwing in some money for Nagy to buy some tooth picks so he can pick ASSir’s pubic hair out of his teeth. His going to need a hell of a lot.

          19. daiber Avatar

            yu tubji mr yu like from back mr tubji yu say gay no good mr yu do 69 to another tubji mr

          20. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I knew you were that way inclined. Good for you, Good for you for finally coming out.

          21. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you. Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man and he will add to his learning.

            Now back to my coffee 😉

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Too reasonable, in light of the rest of this overly-long pile of commentary. :-)))

          23. Jack Audy Avatar
            Jack Audy

            i likey

          24. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            of course and they want to embarrass the President in the process. I would not be surprised if the snipers where hezzie in order to implicate the sunnis. Never ASSIR men attacked any christians in Saida.. and they called him extremists..he always preached peace with other religion and even blessed the visit of the pope.. I think this is was a big setup by Nassrallah and his gangs to get rid of him. They have succeeded allright..

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          The “source” also said that up until last year Assir was hiding out as a monkey.

          The “source” also said that 1 million Salafist are fighting in Syria with the backing of the Lebanese government.

          The “source” also said that the real killer of Hariri was his son posing as a HA agent.

          The “source” also said that UFO’s are real and there were also unnamed eyewitnesses that verified the story.

          The “source” also said that there was a source leaking top secret information about HA.

          The “source” also said…your turn!

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        when LAF were trying to clean the camp in Tripoli HA Nassrallah said the camp is a red line. NEver I heard Nassrallah or any HA says anything bad about the salfists who slaughtered the army then. Everytime a HA involved in any killings he hides in dahia and no one dares to touch them. We’re supporting the army no matter where its in lebanon. the army is allowed in many areas in lebanon except in HA stronghold. Besides it was HA who have been instigating all the problems. I would not be surprised if their snipers killed the army to pit them against the SUnnis then ASSIR. yes finally they left the appt. complex after Assir left.. HA created ASSIR and other extremists in Lebanon. And Aoun the clown is supporting them including the killing of Corp. Hana..you guys say the guy who shot him did his time. baloney.. 1 year for killing a lebanese soldier..I hope you and the salfist and your HA crap go to hell and leave lebanon in peace not in pieces..

  8. Security sources said a man, who was identified as Mahmoud Al-Sous, vandalized a van owned by Assir’s brother, Amjad, breaking its windows.

    Note: This is how the recent incident started up that has led to all of this. Where’s Mahmoud Al-Sous?

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Oh .. THAT’s weird. Fire at the Army because some street-punk breaks a window??? Riiiiight ….

    2. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      The “source” said a man, who was identified as Assir was really just Don King doing a handstand and bullying the locals. The “source” is unsure why Don King was in Lebanon, but an unnamed eyewitness claims he saw him sneak in from Syria and may be working for Assad to destabilize the Middle East.

  9. Security sources said a man, who was identified as Mahmoud Al-Sous, vandalized a van owned by Assir’s brother, Amjad, breaking its windows.

    Note: This is how the recent incident started up that has led to all of this. Where’s Mahmoud Al-Sous?

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Oh .. THAT’s weird. Fire at the Army because some street-punk breaks a window??? Riiiiight ….

    2. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      The “source” said a man, who was identified as Assir was really just Don King doing a handstand and bullying the locals. The “source” is unsure why Don King was in Lebanon, but an unnamed eyewitness claims he saw him sneak in from Syria and may be working for Assad to destabilize the Middle East.

  10. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    So .. are we voting for Geagea now? 😉 Isn’t he right again?

  11. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    So .. are we voting for Geagea now? 😉 Isn’t he right again?

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