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Charbel: Things won’t get any worse in Lebanon

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charbel marwan no qaeda in LebanonLebanese Interior Minister Marwan Charbel told As-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper in remarks published on Sunday that there would be no war in Lebanon things will not get any worse in the country .

“What is currently happening  in Lebanon is direcly related directly to the events in Syria, but I reassure you that things will not get any worse and there will be no war,” Charbel said

Charbel also said that the security forces were doing their job in all Lebanese areas.

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle descibed Hezbollah’s involvement in al-Qussair battles as a “dangerous turn of events in Syria,” condemning Hezbollah fighters ‘ targeting of civilians in the city. Hundreds of Hezbollah fighters have reportedly been killed while fighting in support of the Syrian regime of president Bashar al Assad.

Following the end of the al-Qussair battle, Gulf powers have acted to blacklist the Shiite party while Sunni clerics, including Saudi Arabia’s grand mufti called on their Sunni brethren to take action against Hezbollah.

Gulf toursist who are the biggest spenders stayed away from lebanon so far this year. Their absence is clearly evident in downtown Beirut where the majority of the retail establishment closed their doors .  Solidere, which owns all the downtown commercial real estate has seen the price of its  shares drop from around $19   when the Syrian Revolution started in Mid March 2011 to $11.30 last Friday.

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76 responses to “Charbel: Things won’t get any worse in Lebanon”

  1. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    That must be because things are so bad now they cannot get worse. Indeed they won’t because we have hit the bottom already. Would any one agree with me.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      With the exception of another bloody all-out tribal war again, yes I agree. The whole place is like an extended refugee camp …. and many Lebanese, not getting even the international support which refugees get, live in dire conditions. Simple survival has become paramount.

  2. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    That must be because things are so bad now they cannot get worse. Indeed they won’t because we have hit the bottom already. Would any one agree with me.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      With the exception of another bloody all-out tribal war again, yes I agree. The whole place is like an extended refugee camp …. and many Lebanese, not getting even the international support which refugees get, live in dire conditions. Simple survival has become paramount.

  3. hoba3ma Avatar
    hoba3ma

    He has the crystal ball not! he seems stuck in mud thinking I am here for a while, maybe or maybe not. Wait till the army gets involved , and maybe then things won’t get any worth. Shooting from the hip, top notch politician with elementary school level thinking!

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Keep praying, Hoba.

      1. hoba3ma Avatar
        hoba3ma

        Yah, let’s you and I hold a mass and invite Hafizallla.

    2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
      FreeConstantinople

      some have crystal balls (most bloggers in here lol) others have balls in crystal

  4. hoba3ma Avatar
    hoba3ma

    He has the crystal ball not! he seems stuck in mud thinking I am here for a while, maybe or maybe not. Wait till the army gets involved , and maybe then things won’t get any worth. Shooting from the hip, top notch politician with elementary school level thinking!

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Keep praying, Hoba.

      1. hoba3ma Avatar
        hoba3ma

        Yah, let’s you and I hold a mass and invite Hafizallla.

    2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
      FreeConstantinople

      some have crystal balls (most bloggers in here lol) others have balls in crystal

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  7. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    He looks like hes about to finger Nasrallah haha

    1. AntiFSA Avatar
      AntiFSA

      Just for you to even think that tells me how sick you are.

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        Its sickening how Hezbollah goes and kills the innocent in Syria and the Lebanese Army allows it

        1. AntiFSA Avatar
          AntiFSA

          Oh, so the FSA terrorist are innocent now are they. That’s new. Before criticizing Hezbollah Allah’s involved in Syria, why don’t criticize all the mercenaries who have come from over 25 countries to cause havoc in Syria. The most sickening thing is that for over two years most western countries have chosen to close a blind eye to all the outside influences in Syria. And as soon as Hezbollah gets involved, its all eyes on them. As for the all mighty Lebanese Army, (and yes I’m being sarcastic) what they should be doing is protecting borders. These terrorist have been able to cross border between Lebanon and Syria freely for the past two years. Hezbollah has now put a stop to that, not the Army.

          1. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            No but Hezbollah is justifying its role in Syria by saying it is fighting western forces( obviously not according to the statement you just made). Being a big political party as hezbollah is, it needs to understand it needs to take the interest of lebanon as a state before anything else.

          2. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Just remember the many threats the terrorist have been making towards Hezbollah since this fake revolution started. The powers that be have made sure that the Syrian war was turned into Shiite and Sunni conflict.

          3. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            It wasnt hezbollahs war to fight in the beginning. And hezbollah made it an inner muslim conflict by standing up with the alawites and shiites. if it had gone from the beginning standing up for the revolution like it did for all the other revolutions, assad would be out, there would be a way lower number of sunni jihadists, and the syrian people would get there first taste of a true democracy. Plus Hezbollah wouldnt be viewed as the parasite of the arab world as they are right now and may have even recieved some of the benefits from the new gov. as they were from the baath party. But I guess everyone has their own point of view, right?

          4. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            First you say it wasn’t Hezbollah’s war, then you say they should have joined the revolution from the beginning. I find that a bit odd. And please, how can you blame Hezbollah for it turning into a Shiite Sunni war. From the very beginning Sunni clerics from across the Gulf issued Fatwa’s ordering Jihad against the Alawites and Shiites. I appreciate and respect your thoughts, however please try and be open minded.

          5. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            they shouldnt have joined it but they should have verbally supported it from the beginning. Please read my words carefully…

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes Anti – The only ‘power’ that has made the stupid sectarianism work well for them for over 40 years is the Assidic one …. they Baath in it …. And Bashar seems to have succeeded with that once again.

          7. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Yes 5th, I know, typical response from you. Always either blaming Assad, Hezbollah or Iran. Sectarianism was unheard of in Syria before this crap revolution started. All religions lived, worked and befriended each other in peace. But who to believe 5th, you or the thousands of different people in Syria who have been interviewed for the past 2 years and have said that Sectarianism did not exists. 5th, I have said to you before, Look back at when the fake revolution started, the millions of people who hit the streets in support of Assad. And it happened more than once. If what you say is true, that Sectarianism existed in Syria, would these protesters have come out from the very beginning. I think not. I think you are starting to show your age my friend. It seems to me that you pick and chose what you believe to fiction and fact. My suggestion, change your Scotch. What your drinking now is not doing you justice. :))))

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Right Anti, I know … Sectarianism started after the Sun-God went down …. or.. maybe when he came up to burn Baby-lonians … or the Serpent God ate some Monkeys. What, after all, is sectarianism, but racism with a religious twist?
            Even the ‘7-tribes’ had a few problems … now there’s a few hundred.
            Of course it was ‘around’ all along … but it takes a special skill to get them all so aggravated they want to do wars – and I pot mostly at the guys who did it.
            How many ‘offshoot’ groups of idiots are in there now?? Look at Libya … all together until time to divvy the spoils – and again be telling people how to live.
            And don’t tell me the Assads didn’t do that in Syria.
            It wasn’t a bunch of terrorists with pea-shooters who levelled the country.

          9. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Sectarianism doesnt always start in the beginning, it starts when a group of people want some thing that another group has and gains followers overtime. Dont tell me the millions of sunni syrians who took to the streets for protestwere foreignors. They were native syrians who werent given gov. positions and were tired of their country being viewed as a tool for Iran and hezbollah. They didnt have a high ranking sunni official in the gov. who voiced the support of the makority of the sunnis. Sectarianism didnt start the day ghaddafi or saddam hussein took power. It started when the people were tired of not having a voice and a true democracy. And if i am correct, I believe assads father shut down a larger sunni protest, so you cant say sectarianism never existed, the were just put dow everytime. Thank god the internet is allowed today.

          10. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            The millions of people who took to the streets were in support of the government. Yes there were protest against them, however nowhere near the millions. As for the high ranking Sunni official in the government, are you kidding me, most of the high ranking government officals are or were Sunni. Walid al-Muallem, Foreign
            Minister is Sunni, Manaf Tlass, the former commander of an elite Republican Guard, is Sunni (that is until he accepted money from the gulf pigs and defected like the animal he is). Riyad Hijab, the former Prime minister. (again this animal also defected for money). Just those 3 had the highest position in government after the President. And what were they, SUNNI.

          11. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Yes but those high ranking syrian officials were also paid to support assad, not the syrian people. and your right, the protests werent near the millions, im sorry. but they were big and assad made the wrong decision to use military force on the innocent. these were also going on during hafezs time but the internet was severly limited and not all of syria knew this was going on or the baath party wouldve been dealt with long ago

          12. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Come on real, If he has high ranking government officials who are or were Sunni they being paid to support him, and if he doesn’t, then his criticized. So what you are saying is, “his damned if he does and his damned if he doesn’t”
            And I have heard it all before, He used military force on the innocent protesters. Ok Real, for arguments sake, lets say he did. (even though I believe it was all fabricated) What about Bahrain, or Saudi Arabia, they too have done the same. Why aren’t the west talking about that.? Why doesn’t the likes of this blog mention it like they mention Syria. ? Can’t you see the bigger picture. The war is not about democracy, Its about the US and Russia debating as to who has a bigger dick. And in the end, only the innocent will suffer.

          13. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            I think Bahrains time will come. As for Saudi Arabia the sunni can easily overwhelm the shiite. However in Syria, the people want a leader that supports the majority of them, not just the minorities. And when i say leader, I mean President of Syria. And do you really think this is all fabricated? Let me guess, your one of those people who deny slavery and the holocaust happened, and that the US did the 9-11 attack on itself. Btw the US doesnt talk about the protests in the gc because they have oil dependencies (like being addicted to caffiene or nicotine). Im not here to say Assad is 100% wrong (he treated the syrian christians well) im just saying he took the wrong step by using military force and that will cost both him and Syria.

        2. Patience2 Avatar
          Patience2

          Well, really, (underneath it all) the Lebanese army IS hezbian.

          1. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Thank God for that

          2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
            FreeConstantinople

            khatchig hezbian; maybe better antranik papadourian from bourj hammoudian

    2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
      FreeConstantinople

      you are as much real lebanese as i am real chinese; i have one advantage though, i can read the chinese written by 5th in here even though it is meaningless; keep aside the karshouni of sanibahl and the japanese of deborigine….

  8. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    He looks like hes about to finger Nasrallah haha

    1. AntiFSA Avatar
      AntiFSA

      Just for you to even think that tells me how sick you are.

      1. The real lebanese Avatar
        The real lebanese

        Its sickening how Hezbollah goes and kills the innocent in Syria and the Lebanese Army allows it

        1. AntiFSA Avatar
          AntiFSA

          Oh, so the FSA terrorist are innocent now are they. That’s new. Before criticizing Hezbollah Allah’s involved in Syria, why don’t criticize all the mercenaries who have come from over 25 countries to cause havoc in Syria. The most sickening thing is that for over two years most western countries have chosen to close a blind eye to all the outside influences in Syria. And as soon as Hezbollah gets involved, its all eyes on them. As for the all mighty Lebanese Army, (and yes I’m being sarcastic) what they should be doing is protecting borders. These terrorist have been able to cross border between Lebanon and Syria freely for the past two years. Hezbollah has now put a stop to that, not the Army.

          1. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            No but Hezbollah is justifying its role in Syria by saying it is fighting western forces( obviously not according to the statement you just made). Being a big political party as hezbollah is, it needs to understand it needs to take the interest of lebanon as a state before anything else.

          2. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Just remember the many threats the terrorist have been making towards Hezbollah since this fake revolution started. The powers that be have made sure that the Syrian war was turned into Shiite and Sunni conflict.

          3. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            It wasnt hezbollahs war to fight in the beginning. And hezbollah made it an inner muslim conflict by standing up with the alawites and shiites. if it had gone from the beginning standing up for the revolution like it did for all the other revolutions, assad would be out, there would be a way lower number of sunni jihadists, and the syrian people would get there first taste of a true democracy. Plus Hezbollah wouldnt be viewed as the parasite of the arab world as they are right now and may have even recieved some of the benefits from the new gov. as they were from the baath party. But I guess everyone has their own point of view, right?

          4. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            First you say it wasn’t Hezbollah’s war, then you say they should have joined the revolution from the beginning. I find that a bit odd. And please, how can you blame Hezbollah for it turning into a Shiite Sunni war. From the very beginning Sunni clerics from across the Gulf issued Fatwa’s ordering Jihad against the Alawites and Shiites. I appreciate and respect your thoughts, however please try and be open minded.

          5. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            they shouldnt have joined it but they should have verbally supported it from the beginning. Please read my words carefully…

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes Anti – The only ‘power’ that has made the stupid sectarianism work well for them for over 40 years is the Assidic one …. they Baath in it …. And Bashar seems to have succeeded with that once again.

          7. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Yes 5th, I know, typical response from you. Always either blaming Assad, Hezbollah or Iran. Sectarianism was unheard of in Syria before this crap revolution started. All religions lived, worked and befriended each other in peace. But who to believe 5th, you or the thousands of different people in Syria who have been interviewed for the past 2 years and have said that Sectarianism did not exists. 5th, I have said to you before, Look back at when the fake revolution started, the millions of people who hit the streets in support of Assad. And it happened more than once. If what you say is true, that Sectarianism existed in Syria, would these protesters have come out from the very beginning. I think not. I think you are starting to show your age my friend. It seems to me that you pick and chose what you believe to fiction and fact. My suggestion, change your Scotch. What you drinking now is not doing you justice. :))))

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Right Anti, I know … Sectarianism started after the Sun-God went down …. or.. maybe when he came up to burn Baby-lonians … or the Serpent God ate some Monkeys. What, after all, is sectarianism, but racism with a religious twist?
            Even the ‘7-tribes’ had a few problems … now there’s a few hundred.
            Of course it was ‘around’ all along … but it takes a special skill to get them all so aggravated they want to do wars – and I pot mostly at the guys who did it.
            How many ‘offshoot’ groups of idiots are in there now?? Look at Libya … all together until time to divvy the spoils – and again be telling people how to live.
            And don’t tell me the Assads didn’t do that in Syria.
            It wasn’t a bunch of terrorists with pea-shooters who levelled the country.

          9. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Sectarianism doesnt always start in the beginning, it starts when a group of people want some thing that another group has and gains followers overtime. Dont tell me the millions of sunni syrians who took to the streets for protestwere foreignors. They were native syrians who werent given gov. positions and were tired of their country being viewed as a tool for Iran and hezbollah. They didnt have a high ranking sunni official in the gov. who voiced the support of the makority of the sunnis. Sectarianism didnt start the day ghaddafi or saddam hussein took power. It started when the people were tired of not having a voice and a true democracy.

          10. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            The millions of people who took to the streets were in support of the government. Yes there were protest against them, however nowhere near the millions. As for the high ranking Sunni official in the government, are you kidding me, most of the high ranking government officals are or were Sunni. Walid al-Muallem, Foreign
            Minister is Suuni, Manaf Tlass, the former commander of an elite Republican Guard, is Sunni (that is until he accepted money from the gulf pigs and defected like the animal he is). Riyad Hijab, the former Prime minister. (again this animal also defected for money). Just those 3 had the highest position in government after the President. And what were they, SUNNI.

          11. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Yes but those high ranking syrian officials were also paid to support assad, not the syrian people. and your right, the protests werent near the millions, im sorry. but they were big and assad made the wrong decision to use military force on the innocent. these were also going on during hafezs time but the internet was severly limited and not all of syria knew this was going on or the baath party wouldve been dealt with long ago

          12. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Come on real, If he has high ranking government officials who are or were Sunni they being paid to support him, and if he doesn’t, then his criticized. So what you are saying is, “his damned if he does and his damned if he doesn’t”
            And I have heard it all before, He used military force on the innocent protesters. Ok Real, for arguments sake, lets say he did. (even though I believe it was all fabricated) What about Bahrain, or Saudi Arabia, they too have done the same. Why aren’t the west talking about that.? Why doesn’t the likes of this blog mention it like they mention Syria. ? Can’t you see the bigger picture. The war is not about democracy, Its about the US and Russia debating as to who has a bigger dick. And in the end, only the innocent will suffer.

          13. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            I think Bahrains time will come. As for Saudi Arabia the sunni can easily overwhelm the shiite. However in Syria, the people want a leader that supports the majority of them, not just the minorities. And when i say leader, I mean President of Syria. And do you really think this is all fabricated? Let me guess, your one of those people who deny slavery and the holocaust happened, and that the US did the 9-11 attack on itself. Btw the US doesnt talk about the protests in the gc because they have oil dependencies (like being addicted to caffiene or nicotine). Im not here to say Assad is 100% wrong (he treated the syrian christians well) im just saying he took the wrong step by using military force and that will cost both him and Syria.

        2. Patience2 Avatar
          Patience2

          Well, really, (underneath it all) the Lebanese army IS hezbian.

          1. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Thank God for that

          2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
            FreeConstantinople

            khatchig hezbian; maybe better antranik papadourian from bourj hammoudian

    2. FreeConstantinople Avatar
      FreeConstantinople

      you are as much real lebanese as i am real chinese; i have one advantage though, i can read the chinese written by 5th in here even though it is meaningless; keep aside the karshouni of sanibahl and the japanese of deborigine….

  9. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Does this man also write Science Fiction??

  10. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Does this man also write Science Fiction??

  11. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    yeah right! Have you seen the news lately ya 7aafe?

  12. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    yeah right! Have you seen the news lately ya 7aafe?

  13. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Not Worse? Not better ….. 🙁
    Exerpts-RamiKhouri-DailyStar-June15:

    Saad Hariri’s broadside of sharp accusations against Hezbollah a few days ago was symptomatic of the entire Lebanese political system: spirited, adversarial, apocalyptic, mostly accurate in its accusations, dire in its predictions, but probably insignificant in its practical, immediate consequences. That is because two weeks ago, Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah made similar attacks against many (mostly Sunni) Salafi groups, the United States, Israel, conservative Arab regimes in the Gulf and others that he sees as being in the same camp as Hariri’s March 14 alliance. He, like Hariri, accused his foes of participating in equally evil deeds and of having treacherous intentions, whose consequences would spell the ruin of the Arab world as we know it.

    Nasrallah and Hezbollah, with their Syrian and Iranian strategic allies, offer resistance, respect, discipline, efficiency, liberation, deterrence, self-reliance and effective social service delivery systems that appeal to many; but they also represent to many others the promise only of perpetual warfare, recklessly determined unilaterally, along with the repulsive examples of Iranian and Syrian-style autocratic governance, bundled in an unspoken Shiite sectarian cloak.
    On the other hand, Hariri’s world is equally complex and paradoxical, at once enticing and frightening. With its rich tapestry of capitalism and pluralism, and national values captured symbolically in the spectacles of the Saudi and American worlds, Hariri’s ways offer materialistic allures blunted by the deep costs of social and class cleavages, where markets rule and governments cannot plug the gaps in basic needs–food, shelter, jobs, electricity among others–that plague perhaps hundreds of millions of people.

    Many Lebanese deeply resent Hezbollah’s status as a heavily armed organization beyond the control of the state, and running its own foreign and war agendas while disregarding the consequences for the rest of the country. There is much to love and fear about Hezbollah, depending on your vantage point in Lebanon and the region
    Those who fear the Hariri promise do so in part because they distrust governance that coddles and sometimes relies on fundamentalist Sunni-Wahhabi values as its foundation. They fear the Salafist wave that haunts them, as much as Hariri’s compatriots fear the Shiite-Iranian wave that they see steadily approaching from the east.

    So ideological divides in Lebanon and Middle East continue to widen and deepen, and move into the realm of armed combat, ethnic cleansing, and apocalyptic warnings about neighbors and foes that represent the devil’s ways. These warnings are issued by charismatic, powerful men in hiding, who mirror a modern Arab political culture that remains confounded by both its own bizarreness and its capacity for violence and self-destruction.

    1. Michaelinlondon1234 Avatar
      Michaelinlondon1234

      You do write some rubbish at times.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        And you don’t read … it’s not mine. 🙂
        Although, I did think it was fairly well ‘on the nail’.

  14. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Not Worse? Not better ….. 🙁
    Exerpts-RamiKhouri-DailyStar-June15:

    Saad Hariri’s broadside of sharp accusations against Hezbollah a few days ago was symptomatic of the entire Lebanese political system: spirited, adversarial, apocalyptic, mostly accurate in its accusations, dire in its predictions, but probably insignificant in its practical, immediate consequences. That is because two weeks ago, Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah made similar attacks against many (mostly Sunni) Salafi groups, the United States, Israel, conservative Arab regimes in the Gulf and others that he sees as being in the same camp as Hariri’s March 14 alliance. He, like Hariri, accused his foes of participating in equally evil deeds and of having treacherous intentions, whose consequences would spell the ruin of the Arab world as we know it.

    Nasrallah and Hezbollah, with their Syrian and Iranian strategic allies, offer resistance, respect, discipline, efficiency, liberation, deterrence, self-reliance and effective social service delivery systems that appeal to many; but they also represent to many others the promise only of perpetual warfare, recklessly determined unilaterally, along with the repulsive examples of Iranian and Syrian-style autocratic governance, bundled in an unspoken Shiite sectarian cloak.
    On the other hand, Hariri’s world is equally complex and paradoxical, at once enticing and frightening. With its rich tapestry of capitalism and pluralism, and national values captured symbolically in the spectacles of the Saudi and American worlds, Hariri’s ways offer materialistic allures blunted by the deep costs of social and class cleavages, where markets rule and governments cannot plug the gaps in basic needs–food, shelter, jobs, electricity among others–that plague perhaps hundreds of millions of people.

    Many Lebanese deeply resent Hezbollah’s status as a heavily armed organization beyond the control of the state, and running its own foreign and war agendas while disregarding the consequences for the rest of the country. There is much to love and fear about Hezbollah, depending on your vantage point in Lebanon and the region
    Those who fear the Hariri promise do so in part because they distrust governance that coddles and sometimes relies on fundamentalist Sunni-Wahhabi values as its foundation. They fear the Salafist wave that haunts them, as much as Hariri’s compatriots fear the Shiite-Iranian wave that they see steadily approaching from the east.

    So ideological divides in Lebanon and Middle East continue to widen and deepen, and move into the realm of armed combat, ethnic cleansing, and apocalyptic warnings about neighbors and foes that represent the devil’s ways. These warnings are issued by charismatic, powerful men in hiding, who mirror a modern Arab political culture that remains confounded by both its own bizarreness and its capacity for violence and self-destruction.

    1. Michaelinlondon1234 Avatar
      Michaelinlondon1234

      You do write some rubbish at times.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        And you don’t read … it’s not mine. 🙂

  15. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    To live a life in seclusion one starts to create his own version of law and govern himself by it.
    Now to live in a secular country thats pretty much the same except instead of one person governing himself we have groups governing themselves and all who cant think for themselves joining the train of thought to whatever it takes to meet their needs…
    Ofcourse there will be shortcomings for every secular party due to contradicting laws against eachother which will defenitely lead to wars if the followers of it do not have the patience or options to search for an answer or a “goal”.
    In saying that lebanon wont get any worse maybe… considering its small population and our mentality to stick together after weve had enough of killing eachother.. but will it get any better??
    Dont know if the creator of a secular country really thought it through this far..
    Heres an option yalibnan but may just be a bandaid approach until the current government all screw their heads on.
    Scrap current secular law, talk to religous leaders get them to unite and create a court for the christians(run by their own teachings), a court for the muslims(sharia) and a court for “lebanon”(run by common law or the “majority” of people)
    Seeing that we go by majority rules those are the majorities in lebanon… ofcourse there are shortcomings to my theory but it should keep people busy for a while.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Reasonable … Are you confusing ‘secular’ with ‘sectarian’ there?
      And Lebanon just got past the ‘Religious Talking Heads’ on the marriage bit – a little.
      I think you should re-think that ‘band-aid’ muchly.

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Just when i was started to think im a lost cause lol…Your right i have confused secular and sectarian. My view on the marriage is that it was blown way out of proportian, you dont need paper trails to tell us who we are or what we believe in.. back to the drawing board for me ay. Although i see why i was confused, because lebanon is(now) sectarian and the governments pushing for secular.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          You’re Welcome. 😉

  16. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    To live a life in seclusion one starts to create his own version of law and govern himself by it.
    Now to live in a secular country thats pretty much the same except instead of one person governing himself we have groups governing themselves and all who cant think for themselves joining the train of thought to whatever it takes to meet their needs…
    Ofcourse there will be shortcomings for every secular party due to contradicting laws against eachother which will defenitely lead to wars if the followers of it do not have the patience or options to search for an answer or a “goal”.
    In saying that lebanon wont get any worse maybe… considering its small population and our mentality to stick together after weve had enough of killing eachother.. but will it get any better??
    Dont know if the creator of a secular country really thought it through this far..
    Heres an option yalibnan but may just be a bandaid approach until the current government all screw their heads on.
    Scrap current secular law, talk to religous leaders get them to unite and create a court for the christians(run by their own teachings), a court for the muslims(sharia) and a court for “lebanon”(run by common law or the “majority” of people)
    Seeing that we go by majority rules those are the majorities in lebanon… ofcourse there are shortcomings to my theory but it should keep people busy for a while.

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      5thDrawer

      Reasonable … Are you confusing ‘secular’ with ‘sectarian’ there?
      And Lebanon just got past the ‘Religious Talking Heads’ on the marriage bit – a little.
      I think you should re-think that ‘band-aid’ muchly.

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        Reasonableman

        Just when i was started to think im a lost cause lol…Your right i have confused secular and sectarian. My view on the marriage is that it was blown way out of proportian, you dont need paper trails to tell us who we are or what we believe in.. back to the drawing board for me ay.

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          5thDrawer

          You’re Welcome. 😉

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    5thDrawer

    Ten Days Later ….. anyone notice ‘better’?

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    5thDrawer

    Ten Days Later ….. anyone notice ‘better’?

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