Salafists, pro-Hezbollah fighters clash in Lebanon’s Tripoli

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tripoli army patrolFierce clashes raged in the heart of Tripoli in northern Lebanon on Thursday, a security official told AFP, in the latest in a string of Syria-related incidents in the small Mediterranean country.

“A major clash in Tripoli’s souks broke out between Salafists [who support the revolt in Syria] and fighters loyal to Hezbollah,” the source said, adding that two pro-Hezbollah fighters were wounded.

It was the first battle since 2008 in central Tripoli, although frequent Syria-related violence has raged in other districts.

It comes after some three weeks of sectarian fighting in the flashpoint Jabal Mohsen and Bab al-Tabbaneh neighborhoods, during which around 40 people were killed.

The army deployed in force on Tripoli’s main streets on Thursday, the official said on condition of anonymity, although the soldiers stayed clear of the strife-torn areas.

An AFP journalist saw artillery and military vehicles deployed at the entrance of Tripoli, which has seen escalating violence since the outbreak in March 2011 of a revolt in Syria against President Bashar al-Assad.

Thursday’s battle saw Salafists fight members of the Syrian National Socialist Party, which supports the Assad regime.

It came a day after two gunmen, including a Syrian, were killed in a firefight with Lebanese soldiers near Arsal on the border with Syria, the army said.

On Wednesday night, “a group of armed men driving a pick-up truck assaulted and opened fire on a Lebanese army checkpoint in the Wadi Hmeid area near Arsal,” the army said, adding that two attackers were killed.

Also on Thursday, a clash broke out at the same Arsal checkpoint with a second group of armed men, the statement said.

Hours earlier a Syrian army helicopter bombarded areas near Arsal, which is home to a majority Sunni population that supports the revolt against Assad.

The Lebanese army is working to stop the smuggling of weapons and fighters across the border into Syria.

On Wednesday, the strategic Syrian town of Qusayr near the border fell to troops loyal to Assad, including fighters from Lebanon’s Hezbollah movement.

Hours after Qusayr’s capture, 10 rockets fired from inside Syria hit the Hezbollah bastion of Baalbek in eastern Lebanon, the army said.

President Michel Suleiman on Thursday condemned the violence and called for “a firm and strong response to the sources of fire.”

Although Lebanon has officially adopted a position of neutrality in Syria;s raging conflict, it is sharply divided.

The Shiite Hezbollah backs Assad’s regime, with fighters on the ground, while the Sunni-led March 14 bloc supports the revolt.

Al Arabiya

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  1. Guest Avatar

    ran-Hezbollah-Assad could not have chosen a worse date in the memory of many Arabs than June 6, 2013 to mark their victory in Qusayr and the fall of Qusayr since June 6, 1967 is the anniversary of the 6 Day War tragedy. Now it is overshadowed by the fall of Qusayr and Syria tragedy. The resistance axis has now changed that date to being one of a double tragedy and hypocrisy of the resistance that has turned against most Arabs. June 6, 2013 will represent Hezbollah’s betrayal and its phony resistance that overshadows June 6, 1967 forever now.

    1. dateam Avatar

      The arabs dogged each other back then and what has changed since then?

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        The water will go to whichever army is more steadfast and more deserving. When allah decides a matter, it is done!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Allo? Akbar ?? Any decisions yet??? Allo, Allo …. (damn horrible connection …)

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            In a matter of justice all should be eqal in your eyes.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Only one God, right? Only one species of human. 😉

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            do you not agree that whoever is more guided(knowledgable) and steadfast in practise will be the winner(most deserving).??
            My logic says yes because the knowledgable is smarter and the more steadfast is stronger 😉 put them together and you have a winner ,even with a nuke you cannot destroy knowledge because technology is oboslete, knowledge is not.
            As for one god this is my way of pondering over an issue. Some play golf others do yoga and others drink lets not get judgemental now.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            So, now you are back to education.
            Education may or may not impart knowledge … some perhaps could not ever learn how to shape a rock into a spear, and some others never figure out how to make a vegetable grow. We managed to advance with watching each other, and then by describing what we did – in our thoughts – to pass knowledge on.
            But it’s primary function for humans, up to at least a certain age (pick one above 16 please), and since the time humans learned to grunt in sounds which made sense to others, is to teach us HOW to think. In 2013, this should be obvious.
            First teach how to read and write. Second, how to be able to communicate to others. Third, to do mathematical exercises which teach logical thinking. It is a needed evolution of brain-growth from day 0 to 16 years – and should be in the required sequences and at the right time of brain-growth. If you taught a child nothing more than that, and left it open to self-interest to fill out his quest for knowledge, you might have a world of people saying: ‘I’m alright, Jack -screw the rest of you.’ ( A ‘me’ generation?)
            So, you want to ‘guide’ the child. Maybe because it’s your child. You should want what is BEST for the child and it’s future. And you know that after age 16 you can’t guide – because they think they know everything already. So … Now the question becomes: ‘how much diversion of thought about what ‘IS’ can I force on him/her at the earlier stages, without taking away from him/her what is required to enable my child to think for itself?’
            When the child is malleable, and you teach him/her that Yoga is ‘good’ but Golf is ‘bad’, or even that a good Scotch will steal his/her soul, he/she will end up doing nothing but Yoga, when his/her ‘internal’ interest leads him/her to want to play golf, and have a descent scotch after the game.
            Congratulations. You now have the natural spear-maker trying to grow food, and the natural farmer failing at hunting, and a whole society going down because you did it wrong.
            WHERE IS THE ‘WINNER’?
            And who the hell thinks that only winning is important?? (Except in Golf?) … I thought we were talking about knowledge. Stay on a subject, please.
            Gods and Equality are different subjects too.
            “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.” – Epictetus

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            5th i agrre with what your saying but how does what you say make what i say wrong? My original post was referring to the 2 sides that are fighting so the scene is set …2 armies… i said whoever is more knowledgable(knows what a spear is and knows how to grow veggies lol where as the other army only grows veggies) and steadfast(more willing to teach and learn than the other army) will be rewarded(win). Mypost about golf 5th is the fact (ive asked around) most binding verdicts in todays society are discussed over a game of golf. But im sure if they said in court we discussed the matter and come up with a verdict because of a game of golf people will say WTF?!?but it doesnt mean the decision(verdict) is unlawful(wrong) aslong as its according to the book of law…
            Some people need to go to that “special” place physically or mentally so they can have clear thoughts.

            If i had said i.e John Brown said ” the water will go to the most knowledgable and most steadfast” and he is a modern day judge/ philosopher you would ‘probably’ give me a thumbs up.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Good thing I don’t play golf, I suppose. Imagine …. Glenfiddich would be your only choice. :-)) And we’d all be nudists on warm beaches. :-))
            Did I say ‘wrong’ anywhere?
            Yes, yes …’Stay The Course’ … ‘Nose to the Grindstone’ … that sort of thing. Use your brains – not your brawn – but work ’till it’s done nevertheless. Those apply to successful living … don’t sound so good when applied to dealing death.
            Napolean was out-maeuvered on the field although he kept plugging away. But in those days they didn’t fight around the women and children … there was some ‘honour’ in going to battle – FOR your country. Where indeed is there any in this? The women and children, the sick and the weak and the wounded, all ‘part’ of a ‘battle’? And it’s between two (and more) ‘sides’ with the same god, or a later concept of Him, and a multi-different interpretation of what (assuming that existence) He put them here for … and as far as I’m concerned, their interpretation stinks. So do others, especially when they won’t allow you to go to that “special place” to clear a mind and rest a body – and the soul if you like.
            You need to start with the simple if you want to figure it out. Not begin with the theories of a multitude yelling at you. And that’s why I talked about educating to think for yourself – not to be brainwashed into a restriction of ability to think.

            “Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.” – Albert Camus
            This, of course, alludes to your ‘equality’ problem. We are – simply – NOT equal.
            It’s marvellous that we are so different, really. I probably couldn’t live with myself, but will always be thankful that somebody was able to … and we respected our differences. Or agreed to disagree without killing each other. 🙂
            Aside from some ‘liberal-think’ that somehow believes we are equal, what we WOULD like to see is that we are ‘treated equally’ in a society of humans. And the best way we found to do that so far is by agreeing to vote on things, and then agree to abide by the vote – even if it’s a pain in ‘our ass’ to need to continue to ‘lobby’ to get a ‘better vote’ the next time. For all in the society.
            But what you see is also a confusion about what is a ‘Binding Law’. There are NONE made by ‘man’ which are binding. If you look around, there are none in nature either. All things on this planet change. ‘WE’ can change too.
            The Laws of Physics and Mathematics – which we are still trying to learn, of course – were not made by humans – they were discovered with free thoughts OF humans, often against ‘Belief’ by lesser brains … and I guess you could say those are ‘binding’ – since, for instance, I’ve never found falling off a cliff didn’t result in a bump. So … I CAN logically believe there is gravity. Why is it there? Because of centrifugal force combined with the mass of a planet … and that ‘force’ is the only one I accept as a ‘binding’ control on my freedom.
            I agree to live within the ‘laws’ made by humans in a particular society. But I don’t need to agree with them all, for sure, to live in it.
            “It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” — Aristotle, ‘Nicomachean Ethics,’ 325 B.C.
            Being a ‘good man’ should come first. No?? I’ll try to be a nice citizen …. I don’t have any wish to be killing people because the rest of them are idiots. :-))))
            And now I’ve ‘touched’ on many things … hehehehe

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Im not gonna write a massive statement i agree with most of what you say wars are not worth it. Probably word it differently though but anyway..And we are not initially equal in every aspect otherwise men would be giving birth to babies thats nasty. We can live with eachothers difference and maybe we can look at there negatives and try and make it a positive?? Fair enough?? Where i differ though is when you say fighting for a country i mean you did say people spend tremendous amounts of energy trying to be normal but normal is subjective what is normal?? I will fight for my families honour if that means fighting for my country to protect my honour or against my country for my honour so be it. I prefer to sort it out through dialogue so we can live peacefully(we know how good those are lol) and prefer not fight for land. im a believer in the less materials you have the the less problems you have. Does this now mean im a bad man? I am not asking for much am i?just let me have my own freedom to think what i want when i want it?

            The earth destroys its fools and the wise destroy the earth 😉

            I have bad dreams about what is happening in lebanon ever since i was born its come to the conclusion this is a WAR and in war there is only one winner. Maybe for a short time if we still have people fighting for land i.e jews and palestenians, myanmar. We can have treaties but how long and how much before somebody breaks it??

            In another topic 5th i realise you use alot of intuition in your statements your an abstract thinker am i correct?(just a punt)

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I think there are no ‘winners’ in war. But having ‘known’ war ‘may’ make it possible for humans to avoid it in future. What exactly IS a ‘win’? Some freedom may be won, or lost … some land may change hands for a while … all losses will be grieved, and the sadness at the horror never leaves either ‘side’s’ combatants. The one who ‘wins’ must then help the other to rise up again – because, as we have found through history, if he doesn’t there will be another war at some point – and perhaps worse than the previous. (e.g.. Germany) The great hope is that it will provide a future with more understanding BY humans about why not to have it, and to find another way to accept that our short time of ‘life’ should be in peace – not spent trying to find ways to shorten it, but rather perhaps maximizing.
            Do I need ‘intuition’ to see that? There have been too many examples of ‘wars’ that simply seem to go on and on … some with no large battles of decisive end … and I can read the histories – although I have observed too.
            Abstract … perhaps. Always had an imagination which seemed to feel free to ramble around in the old head. 🙂 When younger, it asked some of the same questions … takes a lifetime to consider the answer to some abstract questions … and I think one ‘biggie’ will not be answered until after. While here, I attempt to enjoy life itself – without ending some else’s – and not listening too hard to theories unproven. I have not found all life to be a joy – but I’ve never been afraid to give an opinion, which can get one in hot water sometimes because others just don’t appreciate the abstraction. :-)))
            As I got older, I became less and less ‘normal’. 😉 We’ll leave ‘honour’ for another day. I already said too much. But here’s one you might like.
            “Idealism increases in direct proportion to one’s distance from the problem.” – John Galsworthy

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            knowledge passes through technology… When the Christians set the library of Alexandria ablaze all the knowledge was gone… The recorded word was on a technological innovation… Papyrus.

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yallah Hannibal … and now they are even dumping CD & DVD !!! WTF !!

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (Can’t figure why someone gave that a ‘down’ … unless they are on a cloud. 😉

          12. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Nice.

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol

  2. Guest Avatar

    ran-Hezbollah-Assad could not have chosen a worse date in the memory of many Arabs than June 6, 2013 to mark their victory in Qusayr and the fall of Qusayr since June 6, 1967 is the anniversary of the 6 Day War tragedy. Now it is overshadowed by the fall of Qusayr and Syria tragedy. The resistance axis has now changed that date to being one of a double tragedy and hypocrisy of the resistance that has turned against most Arabs. June 6, 2013 will represent Hezbollah’s betrayal and its phony resistance that overshadows June 6, 1967 forever now.

    1. dateam Avatar

      The arabs dogged each other back then and what has changed since then?

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        The water will go to whichever army is more steadfast and more deserving. When allah decides a matter, it is done!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Allo? Akbar ?? Any decisions yet??? Allo, Allo …. (damn horrible connection …)

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            In a matter of justice all should be eqal in your eyes.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Only one God, right? Only one species of human. 😉

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            do you not agree that whoever is more guided(knowledgable) and steadfast in practise will be the winner(most deserving).??
            My logic says yes because the knowledgable is smarter and the more steadfast is stronger 😉 put them together and you have a winner ,even with a nuke you cannot destroy knowledge because technology is oboslete, knowledge is not.
            As for one god this is my way of pondering over an issue. Some play golf others do yoga and others drink lets not get judgemental now.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            So, now you are back to education.
            Education may or may not impart knowledge … some perhaps could not ever learn how to shape a rock into a spear, and some others never figure out how to make a vegetable grow. We managed to advance with watching each other, and then by describing what we did – in our thoughts – to pass knowledge on.
            But it’s primary function for humans, up to at least a certain age (pick one above 16 please), and since the time humans learned to grunt in sounds which made sense to others, is to teach us HOW to think. In 2013, this should be obvious.
            First teach how to read and write. Second, how to be able to communicate to others. Third, to do mathematical exercises which teach logical thinking. It is a needed evolution of brain-growth from day 0 to 16 years – and should be in the required sequences and at the right time of brain-growth. If you taught a child nothing more than that, and left it open to self-interest to fill out his quest for knowledge, you might have a world of people saying: ‘I’m alright, Jack -screw the rest of you.’ ( A ‘me’ generation?)
            So, you want to ‘guide’ the child. Maybe because it’s your child. You should want what is BEST for the child and it’s future. And you know that after age 16 you can’t guide – because they think they know everything already. So … Now the question becomes: ‘how much diversion of thought about what ‘IS’ can I force on him at the earlier stages, without taking away from him what is required to enable him to think for himself?’
            When the child is malleable, and you teach him/her that Yoga is ‘good’ but Golf is ‘bad’, or even that a good Scotch will steal his/her soul, he/she will end up doing nothing but Yoga, when his/her ‘internal’ interest leads him/her to want to play golf, and have a descent scotch after the game.
            Congratulations. You now have the natural spear-maker trying to grow food, and the natural farmer failing at hunting, and a whole society going down because you did it wrong.
            WHERE IS THE ‘WINNER’?
            And who the hell thinks that only winning is important?? (Except in Golf?) … I thought we were talking about knowledge. Stay on a subject, please.

            “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.” – Epictetus

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            5th i agrre with what your saying but how does what you say make what i say wrong? My original post was referring to the 2 sides that are fighting so the scene is set …2 armies… i said whoever is more knowledgable(knows what a spear is and knows how to grow veggies lol where as the other army only grows veggies) and steadfast(more willing to teach and learn than the other army) will be rewarded(win). Mypost about golf 5th is the fact (ive asked around) most binding laws in todays society are made over a game of golf. But im sure if they said in court we discussed the matter and come with a verdict because a game of golf people will say WTF?!?but it doesnt mean the decision is wrong according to the book of law…
            Some people need to go to that “special” place physically or mentally so they can have clear thoughts.

            If i had said i.e John Brown said ” the water will go to the most knowledgable and most steadfast” and he is a modern day judge/ philosopher you would ‘probably’ give me a thumbs up.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Good thing I don’t play golf, I suppose. Imagine …. Glenfiddich would be your only choice. :-)) And we’d all be nudists on warm beaches. :-))
            Yes, yes …’Stay The Course’ … ‘Nose to the Grindstone’ … that sort of thing. Use your brains – not your brawn – but work ’till it’s done nevertheless. Those apply to successful living … don’t sound so good when applied to dealing death.
            Napolean was out-maeuvered on the field although he kept plugging away. But in those days they didn’t fight around the women and children … there was some ‘honour’ in going to battle – FOR your country. Where indeed is there any in this? The women and children, the sick and the weak and the wounded, all ‘part’ of a ‘battle’? And it’s between two (and more) ‘sides’ with the same god, or a later concept of Him, and a multi-different interpretation of what (assuming that existence) He put them here for … and as far as I’m concerned, their interpretation stinks. So do others, especially when they won’t allow you to go to that “special place” to clear a mind and rest a body – and the soul if you like.
            You need to start with the simple if you want to figure it out. Not begin with the theories of a multitude yelling at you. And that’s why I talked about educating to think for yourself – not to be brainwashed into a restriction of ability to think.

            “Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.” – Albert Camus

            This, of course, alludes to your ‘equality’ problem. We are – simply – NOT equal.

            It’s marvellous that we are so different, really. I probably couldn’t live with myself, but will always be thankful that somebody was able to … and we respected our differences. Or agreed to disagree without killing each other. 🙂
            Aside from some ‘liberal-think’ that somehow believes we are equal, what we WOULD like to see is that we are ‘treated equally’ in a society of humans. And the best way we found to do that so far is by agreeing to vote on things, and then agree to abide by the vote – even if it’s a pain in ‘our ass’ to need to continue to ‘lobby’ to get a ‘better vote’ the next time. For all in the society.
            But what you see is also a confusion about what is a ‘Binding Law’. There are NONE made by ‘man’ which are binding. If you look around, there are none in nature either. All things on this planet change. ‘WE’ can change too.
            The Laws of Physics and Mathematics – which we are still trying to learn, of course – were not made by humans – they were discovered with free thoughts OF humans, often against ‘Belief’ by lesser brains … and I guess you could say those are ‘binding’ – since, for instance, I’ve never found falling off a cliff didn’t result in a bump. So … I CAN logically believe there is gravity. Why is it there? Because of centrifugal force combined with the mass of a planet … and that ‘force’ is the only one I accept as a ‘binding’ control on my freedom.
            I agree to live within the ‘laws’ made by humans in a particular society. But I don’t need to agree with them all, for sure, to live in it.
            “It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” — Aristotle, ‘Nicomachean Ethics,’ 325 B.C.

            Being a ‘good man’ should come first. No?? I’ll try to be a nice citizen …. I don’t have any wish to be killing people because the rest of them are idiots. :-))))

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Im not gonna write a massive statement i agree with most of what you say wars are not worth it. Probably word it differently though but anyway..And we are not initially equal in every aspect otherwise men would be giving birth to babies thats nasty. We can live with eachothers difference and maybe we can look at there negatives and try and make it a positive?? Fair enough?? Where i differ though is when you say fighting for a country i mean you did say people spend tremendous amounts of energy trying to be normal but normal is subjective what is normal?? I will fight for my families honour if that means fighting for my country to protect my honour or against my country for my honour so be it. I prefer to sort it out through dialogue so we can live peacefully(we know how good those are lol) and prefer not fight for land. im a believer in the less materials you have the the less problems you have.

            The earth destroys its fools and the wise destroy the earth 😉

            I have bad dreams about what is happening in lebanon ever since i was born its come to the conclusion this is a WAR and in war there is only one winner.

            In another topic 5th i realise you use alot of intuition in your statements your an abstract thinker am i correct?(just a punt)

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I think there are no ‘winners’ in war. But having ‘known’ war may make it possible for humans to avoid it in future. What exactly IS a ‘win’? Some freedom may be won, or lost … some land may change hands for a while … all losses will be grieved, and the sadness at the horror never leaves either ‘side’s’ combatants. The one who ‘wins’ must then help the other to rise up again – because, as we have found through history, if he doesn’t there will be another war at some point – and perhaps worse than the previous. (e.g.. Germany) The great hope is that it will provide a future with more understanding BY humans about why not to have it, and to find another way to accept that our short time of ‘life’ should be in peace – not spent trying to find ways to shorten it, but rather perhaps maximizing.
            Do I need ‘intuition’ to see that? There have been too many examples of ‘wars’ that simply seem to go on and on … some with no large battles of decisive end … and I can read the histories – although I have observed too.
            Abstract … perhaps. Always had an imagination which seemed to feel free to ramble around in the old head. 🙂 When younger, it asked some of the same questions … takes a lifetime to consider the answer to some abstract questions … and I think one ‘biggie’ will not be answered until after. While here, I attempt to enjoy life itself – without ending some else’s – and not listening too hard to theories unproven. I have not found all life to be a joy – but I’ve never been afraid to give an opinion, which can get one in hot water sometimes because others just don’t appreciate the abstraction. :-)))
            As I got older, I became less and less ‘normal’. 😉 We’ll leave ‘honour’ for another day. I already said too much. But here’s one you might like.
            “Idealism increases in direct proportion to one’s distance from the problem.” – John Galsworthy

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            knowledge passes through technology… When the Christians set the library of Alexandria ablaze all the knowledge was gone… The recorded word was on a technological innovation… Papyrus.

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yallah Hannibal … and now they are even dumping CD & DVD !!! WTF !!

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (Can’t figure why someone gave that a ‘down’ … unless they are on a cloud. 😉

          12. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Nice.

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            lol

  3. man-o-war Avatar
    man-o-war

    Why is it always pro-Hezbollah fighters? Why can’t we call them anti-Salafist fighters? I think the army should start killing ANYONE walking around the streets with a visible weapon.

    I heard yesterday from someone I know that he was trying to go home but the fighting prevented him from going home the normal route. So , he calls his brother-in-law to come pick him up on a back route. On their way back they were flagged down by a soldier who was standing looking confused. He asked them if they could update him on the situation down the road and if there were any armed men down there, because he was fearful to head that way.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Man-O. The brother ‘knows’ the ‘back-routes’.
      The soldiers don’t know the city like the city-people know the city … when you were born and live there you end up with an innate sense of exactly where you are, and which street to stay out of at any given time depending on the rumours or gunshots you heard that day.
      Sometimes you only have to see a certain type of idiot and you move in another direction – auto-reflex kicks in … but when the gang rolls in on the motorcycles you head for the coffee shop – or the internet cafe. (KFC would have been a bad choice. 😉
      Too many years of same-same.
      The problem for the soldier, also, is that he’s wearing a more obvious uniform … really a better target – and one that no-body seems to respect at all. He’s ‘Lebanese’.
      Which is very confusing to the average sectarian – whether that sectarian is a true idiot or not.

      I think MOST in all of Lebanon are afraid to go somewhere else in the country. They get too confused by different surroundings, and thus don’t feel safe.
      Everyone in their own ‘HOOD’, and some with a huge collection of hoods – with guns.
      Sometimes, I think the USA is learning from Lebanon. 😉

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        I’m passing this into here – from the Tripoli Daily Star today … in case anyone can think how to help patrick meehan in his ‘quest’. (I corrected spellings .. you can find it there.)

        “SOS. My Sister in Law’s house was struck to-day Friday with rockets in Tripoli . She and Her 20 year old Daughter have left the area and will report to me where they are now when I call them by mobile. For a week now they have no sleep, food, and little water. I am an Irishman living in Uk . You will be aware that many of my countrymen has served in UN and lost their lives over the years in South Lebanon. I appeal to you on humanitarian grounds to give me a phone number that she can contact to guide her or help her at this great time of need and extreme danger.
        Your’s
        Patrick Meehan”

  4. man-o-war Avatar
    man-o-war

    Why is it always pro-Hezbollah fighters? Why can’t we call them anti-Salafist fighters? I think the army should start killing ANYONE walking around the streets with a visible weapon.

    I heard yesterday from someone I know that he was trying to go home but the fighting prevented him from going home the normal route. So , he calls his brother-in-law to come pick him up on a back route. On their way back they were flagged down by a soldier who was standing looking confused. He asked them if they could update him on the situation down the road and if there were any armed men down there, because he was fearful to head that way.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Man-O. The brother ‘knows’ the ‘back-routes’.
      The soldiers don’t know the city like the city-people know the city … when you were born and live there you end up with an innate sense of exactly where you are, and which street to stay out of at any given time depending on the rumours or gunshots you heard that day.
      Sometimes you only have to see a certain type of idiot and you move in another direction – auto-reflex kicks in … but when the gang rolls in on the motorcycles you head for the coffee shop – or the internet cafe. 😉
      Too many years of same-same.
      The problem for the soldier, also, is that he’s wearing a more obvious uniform … really a better target – and one that no-body seems to respect at all. He’s ‘Lebanese’.
      Which is very confusing to the average sectarian – whether that sectarian is a true idiot or not.

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        5thDrawer

        I’m passing this into here – from the Tripoli Daily Star today … in case anyone can think how to help patrick meehan in his ‘quest’. (I corrected spellings .. you can find it there.)

        “SOS. My Sister in Law’s house was struck to-day Friday with rockets in Tripoli . She and Her 20 year old Daughter have left the area and will report to me where they are now when I call them by mobile. For a week now they have no sleep, food, and little water. I am an Irishman living in Uk . You will be aware that many of my countrymen has served in UN and lost their lives over the years in South Lebanon. I appeal to you on humanitarian grounds to give me a phone number that she can contact to guide her or help her at this great time of need and extreme danger.
        Your’s
        Patrick Meehan”

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