Hezbollah celebrates the fall of Qusair

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Hezbollah funeral 21Hezbollah supporters in the Beirut’s Shia suburb of Dahieh are reported to be celebrating the fall of Qusair.

The Guardian’s Martin Chulov in Beirut explains the background to Hezbollah’s role in the battle for Qusair.

Hezbollah’s role as a spearhead against a Sunni insurgency in an Arab land has meant a rethink of the group’s raison d’etre and has unambiguously wedded it to the fortunes of the Assad regime, whose military had been unable to gain ground in numerous battles across the country until the increased role of Hezbollah and a militia of Shia fighters from Syria and elsewhere, known as Abu Fadl al-Abbas.

Iran, the main patron of both groups, released a statement on Wednesday morning “congratulating the Syrian people for their victory”.

In recent days Hezbollah had deployed hundreds of its elite forces to Qusair, a sign that the battle was drawing to a close despite resistance from rebels who had proved tougher than expected. The defence of the town was primarily led by homegrown fighters, among them defectors. However, reinforcements from Homs and Aleppo, as well as a contingent of around 200 from the al-Qaida-aligned Jabhat al-Nusra, arrived one week ago. The total number of fighters is thought to have been around 3,000 …

Buoyed by victory in Qusair, a broader role for Hezbollah is now thought to be on the agenda.ย Unconfirmed reports in recent days have suggested that the group will now be moved to Aleppoย in similarly large numbers, where it will attempt to dislodge rebel groups who have controlled 60% of Syria’s largest city for the past 10 months.

 

Stalemate

The fall of Qusair doesnโ€™t change the strategic stalemate in Syria, according to Michael Hanna senior fellow at Century Foundation thinktank.

Speaking to the Guardian, he said:

It is obviously a big blow, not just tactically but psychologically, for the rebels. But we have seen these tactical ebbs and flows before … People have made far-reaching conclusions that have assumed that these temporary shifts in momentum signify the beginning of the end for either side. I think that is simply premature.

There are still huge swaths of Syrian territory that, I think, are permanently out of control of central government. There are places in the country that are never going to be reclaimed. So I think itโ€™s hard to think of a scenario whereby we can talk about Assad winning. These limitations are going to carry on into the foreseeable future.

Itโ€™s hard to see how this becomes a model for reclaiming control of the entire country.

Asked about Hezbollah’s role in the battle, Hanna said:

Clearly having Hezbollah engaged in an open and dedicated fashion, not only infused new numbers into the fight, but also well-trained and disciplined fighters. Obviously they did make a very big difference in Qusair, as has Iranian technical, logistical, and planning support.

Hanna was also pessimistic about possibility of a diplomatic breakthrough at the Geneva II conference.

We are at a strategic stalemate and this is something that could go on for years. I imagine there is going to be a political settlement to this war at some point, but I donโ€™t think that is in the near term … There is not going to be any resolution or progress at Geneva, if the talks happen.

 

Not a turning point

The fall ofย Qusair is a serious blow to the rebels but not a turning pointย in the war, according to the FT’s David Gardner

In his instant take on the battle he writes:
It cements a stalemate that, until now, had been dynamic. The combined forces loyal to the Assads still cannot regain control of large, mostly rural swathes of Syria; while rebel forces are still too fragmented, ideologically divided and poorly armed to depose the regime. But Qusair shows how far the nature of regime forces has changed.
This appears to be the emerging consensus among analyst.

 

 

The Guardian

Photo: Funeral of one of the Hezbollah fighters killed in Syria

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126 responses to “Hezbollah celebrates the fall of Qusair”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    And now, one assumes, The Red Cross/Crescent has FINALLY been allowed to rush in with help for the kids, the women, the sick and wounded …. and Hezzy’s are handing out candy bars and gum.
    We wait for the head-counts.

    Meanwhile, in Dahieh, the people celebrate – with the same mentality of the majority on the planet, which is: ‘I’m alright Jack’.
    Perhaps that is where they will build a camp for the ‘prisoners of war’.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    And now, one assumes, The Red Cross/Crescent has FINALLY been allowed to rush in with help for the kids, the women, the sick and wounded …. and Hezzy’s are handing out candy bars and gum.
    We wait for the head-counts.

  3. Amine123 Avatar
    Amine123

    Murderers

  4. Amine123 Avatar
    Amine123

    Murderers

  5. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    The funniest video on BBC is the ‘commander’ of the ‘winners’ standing in the rubble and telling ‘the people’ they should ‘come home’ now because it’s safe. The second funniest is the nervous soldier putting Assad’s flag on the clock-tower, which looks like it’s ready to fall over.

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    The funniest video on BBC is the ‘commander’ of the ‘winners’ standing in the rubble and telling ‘the people’ they should ‘come home’ now because it’s safe. The second funniest is the nervous soldier putting Assad’s flag on the clock-tower, which looks like it’s ready to fall over.

  7. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    If Qusair took that much effort to re-take and that much “foreign” help (HA, Iran and others), this means that the Syrian govenment on its own is very fragile and weak. With all their weapons, tanks and aircrafts they could not take Qusair other than with the foreigners help. On the other hand, Qusair is very close to the Lebanese border and very accessible for HA, so this also helped in the logistics to re-take it back. I wonder if another town much farther than Qusair will have the same fate, as it will require HA and Iranians
    to travel for miles in the country side to reach their target, and hence be subject to all sorts of attacks and traps by the FSA.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      In a way this war has never been Syrian vs. Syrians. The weapons, fighters, and logistical support backing the opposition has all been possible through “foreign” intervention. With all that help and backing Assad is still in power. Does this mean the rebels are weak and fragile? So, what exactly is your point?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        The point, for some Syrian people, was to have a voice in their own fate. When they asked for it with the first ‘demonstrations’, and the example shown by Assad was 13 kids, who had made ‘naughty’ graffiti, were returned in pieces, they began to realize the futility of asking. So … When they then asked for ‘intervention’ … they got it.
        Not all of that is satisfactory intervention, is it? Was there another ‘way’?
        I suppose staying quiet as cattle and keeping quiet would be your preference.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          I agree that Assad directly ( or indirectly) screwed up big time. Who ever ordered for those kids to be slaughtered should have been taken into custody and charged for his crimes (I don’t think it was Assad, could be wrong). The people of Syria that felt oppressed did what they had to do. Then foreign players from both sides got involved and took the conflict to another level. Supporters of the rebels just gloss over the fact that they have received tons of outside support. At the same time constantly screaming that Assad is getting foreign help. What should the Syrians that support Assad and are fearful of the rebellion do? I mean there are other inhabitants in Syria other than Sunni Muslims. So, once again I agree that Assad and his government screwed up royally, but now what? Someone has to stop fighting or the killing, massacres, and destabilizing of Lebanon will continue. Look what’s happening in Turkey, the protesters are being handled in a very aggressive manner (no live fire yet). Some have been killed already. All it will take is a few more deaths and the protesters will get more violent. What should the Turkish government do then? Push back harder or back off and hope it fizzles out.

      2. Constantin7 Avatar
        Constantin7

        My point is that taking Qusair after so much effort by the Syrian regime showed the weakness of the regime and not its strength. So showing off that they took Qusair is not really worth it. The rebels are much weaker militarily no question about that but their numbers are increasing and the support for them is increasing (local and internationally) and I believe that the rebels are bound for final victory and the regime is bound to a final loss. The regime cannot be stronger any more, with time its is becoming weaker and weaker and more isolated on the international level, while the rebels are getting stronger and stronger. Compare the Syrian regime 3 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago and now, right now they are at their weakest position which proves my theory that they are disintegrating. And the opposite is true on the opposition side. So they won the battle of Qusair but the war is far from finished.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Sounds like you have no problem with international support for the rebels, but are against outside support for the Assad regime. Is that a correct assumption? I do think that its silly for the SAA to be celebrating and making fools of themselves. However, its good for a military thats low on morale. You just have to take one look at Qusayr and Allepo to realize that SYRIANS are losing big time and there are no winners in a CIVIL WAR. The only way for this to come to an abrupt end will be intervention by a superior air force that will actively target Assad military assets. Finding willing countries to engage in this adventure will be tough. They would be more willing to play if Russia steps aside.

  8. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    If Qusair took that much effort to re-take and that much “foreign” help (HA, Iran and others), this means that the Syrian govenment on its own is very fragile and weak. With all their weapons, tanks and aircrafts they could not take Qusair other than with the foreigners help. On the other hand, Qusair is very close to the Lebanese border and very accessible for HA, so this also helped in the logistics to re-take it back. I wonder if another town much farther than Qusair will have the same fate, as it will require HA and Iranians
    to travel for miles in the country side to reach their target, and hence be subject to all sorts of attacks and traps by the FSA.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      In a way this war has never been Syrian vs. Syrians. The weapons, fighters, and logistical support backing the opposition has all been possible through “foreign” intervention. With all that help and backing Assad is still in power. Does this mean the rebels are weak and fragile? So, what exactly is your point?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        The point, for some Syrian people, was to have a voice in their own fate. When they asked for it with the first ‘demonstrations’, and the example shown by Assad was 13 kids, who had made ‘naughty’ graffiti, were returned in pieces, they began to realize the futility of asking. So … When they then asked for ‘intervention’ … they got it.
        Not all of that is satisfactory intervention, is it? Was there another ‘way’?
        I suppose staying quiet as cattle and keeping quiet would be your preference.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          I agree that Assad directly ( or indirectly) screwed up big time. Who ever ordered for those kids to be slaughtered should have been taken into custody and charged for his crimes (I don’t think it was Assad, could be wrong). The people of Syria that felt oppressed did what they had to do. Then foreign players from both sides got involved and took the conflict to another level. Supporters of the rebels just gloss over the fact that they have received tons of outside support. At the same time constantly screaming that Assad is getting foreign help. What should the Syrians that support Assad and are fearful of the rebellion do? I mean there are other inhabitants in Syria other than Sunni Muslims. So, once again I agree that Assad and his government screwed up royally, but now what? Someone has to stop fighting or the killing, massacres, and destabilizing of Lebanon will continue. Look what’s happening in Turkey, the protesters are being handled in a very aggressive manner (no live fire yet). Some have been killed already. All it will take is a few more deaths and the protesters will get more violent. What should the Turkish government do then? Push back harder or back off and hope it fizzles out.

      2. Constantin7 Avatar
        Constantin7

        My point is that taking Qusair after so much effort by the Syrian regime showed the weakness of the regime and not its strength. So showing off that they took Qusair is not really worth it. The rebels are much weaker militarily no question about that but their numbers are increasing and the support for them is increasing (local and internationally) and I believe that the rebels are bound for final victory and the regime is bound to a final loss. The regime cannot be stronger any more, with time its is becoming weaker and weaker and more isolated on the international level, while the rebels are getting stronger and stronger. Compare the Syrian regime 3 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago and now, right now they are at their weakest position which proves my theory that they are disintegrating. And the opposite is true on the opposition side. So they won the battle of Qusair but the war is far from finished.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Sounds like you have no problem with international support for the rebels, but are against outside support for the Assad regime. Is that a correct assumption? I do think that its silly for the SAA to be celebrating and making fools of themselves. However, its good for a military thats low on morale. You just have to take one look at Qusayr and Allepo to realize that SYRIANS are losing big time and there are no winners in a CIVIL WAR. The only way for this to come to an abrupt end will be intervention by a superior air force that will actively target Assad military assets. Finding willing countries to engage in this adventure will be tough. They would be more willing to play if Russia steps aside.

  9. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    QUSAYR HAS NOT FALLEN!! THE FSA NOW ARE IN CONTROL AGAIN OF OVER 70% OF QUSAYR. The properganda of the falling of qusayr is just a psycological game played by hezblshayton.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      “Yes our brothers, this a round that we have lost,” the General Commission of the Syrian Revolution said on its Facebook page, while adding that rebels seeking to oust Assad “will continue to fight the thousands of Lebanese mercenaries.”, there is one statement from the rebels.

      Free Syrian Army Supreme Military Council member Alaa al-Basha said that the rebels withdrew โ€œdue to a lack of ammunitions and weapons.โ€, there is another statement for your reasonable mind.

      The Britain-based Observatory, which relies on a network of activists and medics on the ground, also confirmed the fall of Al-Qusayr.
      “The army and Hezbollah have succeeded in taking Al-Qusayr after an intense bombardment of the town overnight,” it said. “The rebels have withdrawn to other areas because they were short of ammunition.”

      โ€œThe rebels withdrew from Al-Qusayr in exchange for lifting the siege off the district and the evacuation of civilians and injured people,โ€, there is another statement for you, but at least this one is saying that they withdrew as part of an agreement. Does that make you feel better?

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Yes your behind on your news it was a strategic withdrawal and now up to 70 hezblshayton members died after a martydom operation from JAN. Up to 40 shit and iranis have veen captured. ๐Ÿ˜‰ you wait and see chump.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Syrian Observatory for Human Rights posted a comment on their Facebook stating what happened 15hrs ago, “Homs province: Fighters from the Lebanese Hizbullah have overrun the city of al-Quseir after intense bombardment cover overnight by regime forces, which continued until dawn today. Reports indicate that the rebel forces retreated from the city due to lack of ammunition and men, this comes despite the many promises that supplies would reach the rebels of al-Quseir.”, so excuse me if I’m behind, but no news is out about your strategic comeback. Was releasing statements by the Syrian observatory, FSA supreme military council, and the General commission of the Syrian revolution of the loss of Al Qusayr part of the strategy?

          Al Qaeda (JAN) martyrdom operation killed 70 Hezbos, Wow!! What fantasy news are you reading? And those terrorist bastards don’t take prisoners they just behead them to release the soul, thats where your story falls apart. Why are they capturing shit anyway? Are they running low on fuel? They could probably ask Saudi Arabia or Qatar for more. Chump? Nice, chimp! I, unlike yourself don’t want to see Syria destroyed or their people killed any longer and if crushing the rebels is the way to get it done then so be it. I would like to see Assad step down and allow for free elections to be held and the rebuilding to begin.

          I was just talking to a Syrian gentlemen (Sunni) who left Syria 6 months ago to escape the fighting. He is from Homs and said that he lived in a building that had just about every religious sect living in it and they got along fine even with the fighting raging all around them. He also said that the rebels were lobbing mortars at the residential areas with no idea where or what they were hitting. My point, is there atrocities being committed by both sides and it has to stop. Can your blind hate for other religions allow you to see this or are you to obsessed with martyrdom? I mean 40 (?) Virgins does sound nice.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hate for other religions now i know your agenda your the person that uses religion as his sword infact 5 minutes ago my alawi neighbours pitbull just jumped over the fence and was scaring women and children in my street(christians buddhists hindus). While on their(alawi neighbours) behalf it was negligance leaving the dog untied and leaving the home i risked going outside letting the pitbull chase me my hand was actually in his jaw while i was trying to tie him up. So piss off with your religous propergander. Another thing 15hours ago? Chump mark my words get updated on your news or INDEPTH RESEARCH CRITEA. If you want to see a beter syria then you join the revoloution how can this long eared idiot win 99% of votes i wonder.

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Why you mad bro? Yes, 15 hours ago. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I personally hate religion because it leads to needless death in the name of something no one can prove to be true. I know that the Imams at all the peaceful mosques from Lebanon to Qatar are calling for jihad against another religious group and that is wrong. I, unlike you have given you the sources of the quotes I presented to you. You just spout shiite out your mouth with no sources to back it up. Tell me where you got your news so I can look it up, Chimp!

            Also, what about the indiscriminate shelling by the rebels? Most of who don’t know their elbows from their a**hole.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            How about iraq and iran? How about using warplanes against lightweight guns? How about chemical weapons being used? How about all the weapons from russia? What about the sargeant offering government positions to foreigners if they join the war?what about soldiers claiming to CLEANSE and the massacres they cause?I can show you a video of how hezblshayton raped a women threw her bi zilet raba(naked) on the street and any FSA rebel who tried to save her they shot at. Using humans as bait now thats just pathetic as claiming somebody who opposes the long eared donkey as biassed and intolerent of other religions. Now answer me this how legitament is hezblshayton when they are helping a donkey who forged votes and jailed and threatened people at the polls so he can win? My sources you will not find on the internet ;-))

          4. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            How about Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, and Saudia Arabia? How about the Imams promising Jihadis a place in heaven and many virgins if they go fight in Syria? What about the rebels who threaten to cleanse Syria of the Alwaite? I also would like to see the video you speak of, but I doubt it even exists just like your sources. You never know though, there are some evil people in this world.

            You should start your own web page and then you can use that as your source. You can call it “theshiitethatcomesoutofmymouth”

            What is it with you and big ears?

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I am not pulling with any group i am against a call for jihad in syria by khomani or qurdowi or anyone the war to me is political, and i am pulling with the individuals who are fighting to protect their homes and those who cannot fight to protect their homes and with the people who want a proper voting system in place and not this 99% garbage. The rebels (not the jihadis) seem to have this ideaology that protects those of modest social standing. Unlike HA whome have solid evidence against them that the war is an oppertunity to spread there ideaology to turn lebanon into the irani islamic republic this is why i hate HA. The war is syrian so leave it for the syrian. HA also seem to want to protect this donkey (long eared) after the atrocities him and his army have commited where is the fairness in that? Is it ok to call somebody generalise and call a terrorist all who holds a gun to protect his home against a tyrant who knows his army is raping and killing civilians and still wants to stay in power? Killing innocent civillians by using warplanes and tanks to ‘allegedly’ target terrorists? You cant! Thats incorrect and to come from a primeminister(uneducated only in power because of his father) is even worse. He should be locked up just for his statement and his statement ignited spreading of chaos. Now its clear you still think HA is helping lebanon and i will provide you evidence and well see what you have to say ๐Ÿ˜‰

          6. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The oppressed Syrians have a right to fight, but the jihadis that flooded Syria in the past year do not. Why are the hezbos fighting? In my opinion, their fighting to protect their interests (the reason anyone fights). If Assad falls and the new dictator (thats what will happen) is not favorable to the Hezbos then they will lose a lot. Also, it probably has to do with internal Lebanese conflicts (sunni vs. shiite). They saw the hundreds if not thousands of Sunni fighters crossing into Syria to fight Assad and decided if they fight we fight. There is also clear evidence that some Sunni groups want to turn Lebanon into the sunna republic of Lebanon, run by sharia law. Not gonna happen!!

            Its easy to win 99% of the votes when you’re the only one on the ballot. Am I wrong? What other options did people have? Assad is another Arab dictator and most of the other Arab countries are also run by dictators. Many of the Arab countries helping the rebellion are run by dictators. They crush any dissent without mercy. Even in the democracy of Turkey they are dealing with dissent through violence.

            posted this for someone else earlier, but he did not respond. Lets say Assad calls off his Military and steps down tomorrow. You’re given power to rule that day, what would you do to begin the healing process? How would you treat the minorities? How would you handle the Syrians that fought along Assad? I mean they were fighting for their lives (at least thats what they think). They have a right to defend their villages and people to. Right?

            We seem to forget that this war is a civil war. The military is made up of Syrians. The Syrians that back the regime have every right to syria as anyone else.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            La Chronique du Printemps Arabe ูŠูˆู…ูŠุงุช ุงู„ุฑุจูŠุน ุงู„ุนุฑุจูŠ, par Cรฉdric Labrousse1 hour agoย ยทย SYRIA – CHRONICLE MAP – RAGING BATTLE IN NORTH-QUSAYR / REBELS (FROM SIF, AL NUSRA, INDEPENDANT FSA KATIBA, …) DON’T WANT TO LET QUSAYR TO FALL ENTIRELY / LOYALIST TRY DURING THE NIGHT TO PUSH ENTER DABA’A – CHRONICLE INFORMATION – Clashes continue during the night and theย morning of 6th june, after a counter-attack of rebels in North-Qusayr, trying to consolidate their positions around the stadium and north to national hospital, forcing Hezbollah to evacuate journalist from the city to Homs before the night. Important battle take place too in north of Daba’a, where alawite militias. Many civilians fled to Buwaydah ash Sharqiyah (Qusayr is a desert now, of ruins, smoke and foreign religious fighters from Hezbollah, iraqi militias and iranian pasdaran). Chronicle, another time, denounce medias and alter-medias cover about Syria : after only reporting from SOHR, they only work about SANA… But never with syrian contacts…

          8. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Nice! So they have lost Qusayr, but the fighting continues in the northern part of the town and the surrounding area. No mention of 80 dead hezbo that you stated earlier. Is this a unbiased source? Doubt it , but at least you found something to post even if it does not back up your claims. I’m sure the fighting in that area is far from over.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I know my sources are strong and you will hear it soon i dont have authority to post the name as of yet.hence it does back the claim al qusayr has not been taken over ๐Ÿ˜‰

            proof hezblshayton want syria and lebanon to become part of iran islamic republic and dont care about lebanon
            /watch?v=zAt7L9Lzl2c
            Aleppo | A member of the Syrian freedom fighters was able to obtain footage of this secret meeting of Assad officials addressing soldiers, civilians and members of foreign Shi’ite militias in the Hezbollaat held towns of Zahra and Nubl speaking about their strategy to retake Mennagh air base

            Syrian official promises every volunteer who creates a militia of 50 will be rewarded as a permanent employee of the syrian government.He also promises hezblaat towns zahra and nubl to be the future capital under the flag of al hussayn.

          10. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The Shia Holy book hate speech preach that who ever differ with the Shias are subject to kill . Please read thisโ€œFor those in our (Shiaโ€™s) State who differ with us, there is a punishment. God has made their blood Halal (permissible to be shed) when our Qaโ€™im (Shiaโ€™s 12 imam) emerges.โ€( Baqir Al-Majlisiโ€™s Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 50, p. 373)Explain this teaching

            โ€œ The money of the Al-Nasib (the Sunni) is Halal (permissible to be stolen) and every thing he owns is Halal.โ€ ( Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 2, p. 48 and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 11, p.60)

          11. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I thought the Shi’ite holy book was the Quran. The same ones the Sunni use. Religion is F’d up. There are plenty of things in the Quran that I find wrong. Like how you can beat your wife if she disobeys you. If you invade a village its ok to take the women for yourself even if they are married (spoils of war). I’m curious how the Imam in Saudia Arabia justified his rape, torture, and murder of his 5 year old daughter. The dictators there were going to release him from prison if he paid the mother a set amount of money ( I think his daughter was worth $30,000), but international uproar changed their minds and he was put back in jail. Yet at the same time they will cut your hand off for stealing. Some really backwards thinking. Stuck in the stone-age mentality as the rest of the world moves forward and upwards laughing the whole time.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Watch BBC – they had ‘feet on the ground’ journalists …

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=AFj7J7dla30

            /watch?v=yp0ZR6-qAQc

          14. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The Hezbos know that this would be impossible and would not risk getting attacked by 60% of the Lebanese population that isn’t Shi’ite. Lebanon is for all Lebanese regardless of your religious affiliation. If someone doesn’t like it they can go to Israel, Iran, Saudia Arabia or the Vatican City.

          15. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Strangely enough, Man-O, a ‘few’ seemed to take the option … ๐Ÿ˜‰
            (left room for Syrian refugees, I guess.)

          16. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=uJVOruKm178

            Al Qusair, Homs province, 05-06-2013: Dr. Qassim Al Zein in Al Qusair told Radio Free Syria a short time ago that efforts are underway to transport injured civilians from Al Qusair to Lebanon, with the wounded currently trapped in the village of Buwayda, which has been devastated by relentless regime bombardment, with no humanitarian agencies helping in the efforts to get the injured to safety. Tens of thousands of civilians are still trapped in Al Qusair.

            I asked an Afghan โ€“ always the trustiest source for such information โ€“ why Hezbollah was taking such huge casualties. Here is the reply I got: โ€œIn southern Lebanon, when they were fighting the Israelis, Hezbollah knew their own land and their own territory.

            โ€œThey were fighting from home and the Israelis fell into the trap because they didnโ€™t know Lebanon. The occupied always know the territory be…tter than the occupiers. But now Hezbollah are on unfamiliar territory. The Syrians know Qusayr. Hezbollah do not.โ€

            A big โ€œouchโ€. I guess Sayyed Nasrallah thinks about this.

            – Robert Fisk (An English writer and journalist from Maidstone, Kent. He has been Middle East correspondent of The Independent for over thirty years, primarily based in Beirut).

          17. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Sad video : ( You can really hear the desperation in his voice.

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I hear that they are promising 72 virgins nowadays. It might be decreased now after their defeat in Al-Qusayr. Or maybe increased to give the terrorist an incentive to go and die in the name of jihad.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            It was always 72. People keep quoting different numbers. They come in blocks of 72. We’re not sure how they are created, But there you go. 72.
            (I’d have enough trouble with one … although it could be fun ‘teaching’.)
            Jehovah’s Witnesses (marturs original) ran the numbers game a different way. They believe in being pacifists (good idea) … because their version of ‘The Book’ says there are only so many spaces (private cubicles?) in Heaven. Nevertheless, being human, they also increased in numbers on the planet. Eventually some realized there were more of them than there are spaces. This required a ‘political’ solution – of course – and they simply ‘uppd’ the numbers so no-one would fight over it. Logical – in a religious way.
            Wasn’t that sensible?? ๐Ÿ˜‰

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Even plane or a tank is ‘indiscriminant’ when it’s shell explodes – although it may have had a target … and most of the rubble in Syria was created by random shelling … we know who from.

          21. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I think there is a difference between having a target when firing and the shoot and pray method used primarily by the rebels. I agree the tank and plane fire can go off target (even the best weapons in the world go off the mark sometimes), but at least there was a target. However, there is tons of footage of the shoot and pray strategy. They don’t even try to aim most of the time.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hope the dog has it’s rabies shots …. :-/
            Sometimes you win … sometimes you lose. Tomorrow is another day.
            Oh … wait … this IS tomorrow … hmmm …

          23. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Reasonable, come on man. The terrorist got their asses kicked. And please, strategic withdrawal. More like they shit themselves. Al-Qusayr is now fully under the control of the real Syrian army and was always going to be.

          24. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            If you want to believe so then believe, unfortunately i cannot provide the sources but even if i did you wouldnt believe. So on my behalf i didnt provide sources so i may be called hypacritic but time will tell today is a new day.

          25. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Surprise surprise! No sources to speak of. So, may ask where you came up with breaking news?

          26. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Its fair to ask you now for your evidence that rebels want to turn LEBANON into an islamic republic. I know JAN have tried turning al raqqa into a sharia neighbourhood but please enlighten me how this affects lebanon and how on earth JAN allegedley represent ALL sunnis in syria when JAN who undertake orders from terrorist alquaida who LIVE in terrorist IRAN?

          27. dateam Avatar

            ok heres one for you…hours ago an army checkpoint in arsal was attacked…the army killed the purputrators…one was syrian and one was lebanese….now what the frig does the lebanese army have to do with the so called fight for democracy in syria?

          28. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Ah ok so where are the from im assuming your gonna say tripoli ok fine where abouts maybe tebbeneh or jabal did they say LOL? I bet not

          29. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I never said that JAN (Al Qaeda) or the rebels wanted to turn Lebanon into an Islamic republic. I said some Sunni groups want to turn Lebanon into an Islamic republic governed by Sharia law. All you have to do is go to a Friday prayer in Tripoli to hear about their wet dreams. I believe every country should be non-sectarian.

            Anyway, here is a video for you.

            /watch?v=HB8FrEtOr0Q

            and here is one of their leaders who got deported from Britain back to Lebanon

            /watch?v=Of0rtW9yC98

          30. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            So is the 1st video in tripoli because ive got some friends in tripoli who say such a thing didnt happen they could be wrong but i tried to support your claim by thinking of the worst case scenario but really no evidence that is in tripoli. Alqueada yes maybe in syria but we all know they have connections to iran and anything to do with iran i and vast majority of people who really know alqueada are from iran will reject. As for the second video what relivence does it have for syria and lebanon? When people are armed and calling for sharia law is one thing or armed and controlling a country and somehow only one 2 seats in the last elections is another thing.

          31. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            In Tripoli, there are MOST people who want to live in peace, with jobs and schools and everything functioning (as it does amazingly a lot of the time – even without the jobs ….) and they march in ‘demonstrations’ to try to have the guns condemned and gone.
            And then, there are ‘the others’ who screw all that up. LAF is only beginning to work on it … thanks to politicians who can’t figure out ‘what is Lebanon’.

          32. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Thats correct 100% no doubt, but theres more than reasonable grounds to believe the same thing thats happening is happening in beirut. Factories stored with weapons not to be touched by the LAF only by HA. They are both threats no doubt and im a believer in tackling the bigger threat and the rest will be childs play. I really feel sorry for the army taking orders from individuals whome i feel have a long way to go to figuring out lebanon.

          33. dateam Avatar

            Heres something you might find interesting below is a list from early 2012 of the fireign fighters accounted for that were killed in fighting JIHAD in syria ( see here is where the opposition got it wrong foreign fighters were and are not fighting for democracy they are fighting to kill period). libya 61 tunisia 187 saudia arabia 59 jordan 40 kuwait 39 chechnya 33 palestinian 33 azebaijan 32 lebanon 29 egypt 20 turkey 20 belgium 18 afghanistan 12 albania 10 iraq 9 dagestan 8 morocco 8 qatar 6 algeria 5 bosnia 4 yemen 4 sweden 4 australia 3 denmark 3 ireland 3 china 2 uae 2 france 2 mauritania 2 sudan 2 britain 1 bulgaria 1 canada 1 chad 1 holland 1 spain1….find me 1 sheikh from the beginning related to the opposition that called for a fight for democracy in syria or rather they were calling for jihad….now if you are a westerner or alawite,christian,shiite,druze,jew,orthodox,budhist,gay,aethiest or whatever and heard this rhetoric what would you do? Support it? Heres fact for you al qusar had a 10% christians population living amongst all the other religions when the rebels came they all fled…deir azzor’s christian population have all fled when the rebels came….when the government began its attack on qusar the rebels first fled to a village called al-duvair they massacred the christians there and the rest were forced to flee….so in effect with this do you blame the hzb for doing what it did? In spite of peoples opinions and my own i do not blame them….why does the opposition which is supposedly fighting for freedom ( and dont get me wrong there is opposition trying to but unfortunately they have allowed themselves to be overrun by the foreign mercenaries brought in they are disjointed and have been infighting from day one…just the other day while the battle for qusar was raging a section of the opposition resigned claiming that their is a disconnect from the heirachy as they battle on the ground and the heirachy lives it up in nice hotels) need to kidnap 11 lebanese and 2 priests? what value does that add to their cause? You see in the real world you cannot keep blaming everyone for your wrongs their comes a time when you have to tuck your skirt in and do what you have to….Dont be in denial this is not sectarian it was a battle for democracy but the same greed and power people were fighting against ate them up as well…now unfortunately you reap what you sow….

          34. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=foaQ5RdoY5Y
            here is what assads army does rapes girls and use them as bait.
            Now you mean the same kind of denial hezblshayton and assads army used against the entry of red cross/cresent to reach the wounded?
            If saving this girl or any other innocent civilian the jihad(struggle) theyr calling for then count me in. The jihad(struggle) of killing innocent civillians and invading syria like hezblshayton iran iraq and russia want then count me out. For your own benifit Watch how you use the term jihad because it could be easily misunderstood on this blog.
            No strong evidence as of yet about the priests and who has kidnapped them.
            The christians in alqusayr der ezzor all could have fled before a rebel takeover. Who said they fled during the takeover and if it was during the takeover atleast they had a passageway for them to leave unlike what the long eared donkey does and deny entry and exit to paramedics and reporters.

          35. dateam Avatar

            Brother it is now irrelevant who did what because both have committed atrocities…we all saw the eating heart episode…we are now in the here and now…unfortunately go through history of all the wars and tell me where atrocities were not committed from both sides…..people all come last…we are all pawns in chess game that is bigger than all of us.

          36. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Not both groups, individuals from both groups YES, have commited atrocities and i can also supply you with a video of abusakkar aka heart eater saying sorry he is not part of any movement (the guy was already dead) and that he is willing to face justice even if it means his death when bashar faces his justice for the atrocities his commited i mean thats very reasonable. Howcome we dont see government forces or HA saying sorry is another question. We are only what we allow ourself to be i am no pawn and neither should you be.

          37. dateam Avatar

            brother god bless you i cant reason with someone that says even though someone is dead its ok to rip out his heart and eat…lets agree to disagree

          38. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Really dont know when i said its ok you must be dreaming, its a crime to mutilate a body no matter what, but its even worse when you torture and mutilate while the person is alive and also murder a person.
            Like assads thugs in this video carving into the skins and cutting limbs of people that are alive. You never seem to mention this but always bring up a man eating a heart. Shall a show you a video of a man being buried alive because he refuses to say the properganda the thugs want him to say?
            watch?v=kikhPhy7D5I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
            I agree we disagree but not to disagree especially when i have provided strong evidence that the atrocities of the individual rebels are much Much less to that of bashar. We can go on for days and new atrocities will occur and we can also talk about them until your satisfied ๐Ÿ˜‰

          39. dateam Avatar

            ok we agree atrocities have been committed on both sides…i too can show you videos of atrocities committed on both sides….theres one video where the rebels make a 10 year old kid decapitate his own fathers head…..we can go on and on…the point your failing to understand is that initially this was a fight for democracy however the opposition couldnt get its shit together allowing the radicals to take over….just look at the opposition they are all over the place….you have guys on the ground fighting and guys sitting in luxury hotels claiming their also fighting for democracy when in fact they are only fighting for power….i ask you this…what is your views on bahrains fight for democracy? What about myanmar where muslims are being cleansed? what about palestine for 70 years? Are you aware that mass graves were found this week in palestine ? atrocities committed by the jews during the nakba? Where was the outcry from the sunni world? Where was the arab league meeting to demand israel be taken to the hague for war crimes? Where was one of these sheikhs calling for jihad making at least one comment of condemnation?Is this a fight for democracy or has it become sectarian? Or is the sectarian line the easy way out? Did you know assads wife is a sunni? You failed to answer one of my previous questions…find me 1 sheikh who called for democracy just one? Dont you see they have scared the shit out of everyone even those opposed to assad have now changed their minds because they have seen what has been happening…..both sides have made their decisions and both sides have to live with the consequences….we arabs will never learn….the opposition ran to the americans and what did they do for them?

          40. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Touching. If the video has anything to do with a man in a mask please spare me the horror, people who do these things wearing masks are afraid to show their identity and or iis staged or some other sick reason and the initial thing is you cannot prove who the person is behind a mask. Thats for the forensics. As far as bashars personal life i dont care, its has actions that have brought syria to where it is.yes the inital fight is for democracy and thats my stance but really you cant blame the opposition if bashar the so called educated didnt decapitate the kids and try to silence the uprisings with an iron fist we wouldnt be in this situation. You cant say the opposition allowed the foreign fighters with open arms either. If bashar and his so called army couldnt even stop foreigners from entering syria where are the tax payers money going why does the country have a useless army. They even let israel in and blow things up TWICE and still are yet to retaliate. It took 3 weeks to do something in qusayr which is supposed to be done in a couple of hours(still havnt taken over completely lol). Bahrain i will not comment about i have no proper understanding of it. I dont recall a sheikh in lebanon calling for sharia law although they may have called for jihad(struggle) to fight for the oppressed and thats not calling for sharia but give me something to work with instead of generalising that all masheye5 are the same and expect me to give you a comment by generalising. The opposition ran to america for democracy something bashar needs to learn the meaning of.

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes, sounds bad Dateam … unless you’re really hungry. ๐Ÿ˜‰
            I forget the name of the book at the moment … Story of the people who survived a long time in the Andes after a plane-crash by living on dead people’s body-parts for a long time. Of course, the meat was frozen … until they cooked it. ๐Ÿ™‚
            It’s ok … and they said the prayers over the bodies first. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          42. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Alive

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ah, yes … I’d forgotten the title, although I’d read it. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

          44. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The state of this nation is a sad one… Criminal culture and criminal religion. tfeh
            I am so happy I no longer subscribe to this low life nation… Next I will wipe my ass with the old passport.

          45. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            No, no, Hannibal … save it for posterity, not posterior. :-)))
            Your kids will be happy to frame it after you’re gone, and hang it on a wall somewhere – maybe with a blow-up of the wonderful pictures all the passports contain. :-)) They can proudly say: ‘That’s my gene-pool’.

          46. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            The difficulty with naming the countries any particular ‘fighter’ came ‘from’ and/or simply happens to carry a passport from, while also claiming that they are Muslim, is that you cannot really say they are part of that country of passport. As any of a variety of Jihadiis or terrorists or freedom-fighters, they are all living the way of the ‘Muslim Country’ – sort of ‘by the book’ – and only demonstrating that sectarian crap which exists between various factions of all religions. Basically, you need to say in this case that it is a Muslim War.
            Now, if you had the name of a German-Jewish guy born in Israel, OR an Anglo-Saxon Christian born in Britain, and they were fighting with the various Jihadiis, THAT would be something to crow about – and they would be the guys to interview for their ‘valid’ reasons to be killing every day when possible, beyond the fact it’s exciting and brings in a good buck as long as they survive.
            If there were a huge bunch of THOSE types, ‘the west’ might actually be more interested – beyond wringing it’s hands in shock at the atrocities … which it also knows have occurred in any war in history anyway.
            War – and living in it – IS Hell. (It’s that ‘man’-thing, ya know? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  10. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    QUSAYR HAS NOT FALLEN!! THE FSA NOW ARE IN CONTROL AGAIN OF OVER 70% OF QUSAYR. The properganda of the falling of qusayr is just a psycological game played by hezblshayton.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      “Yes our brothers, this a round that we have lost,” the General Commission of the Syrian Revolution said on its Facebook page, while adding that rebels seeking to oust Assad “will continue to fight the thousands of Lebanese mercenaries.”, there is one statement from the rebels.

      Free Syrian Army Supreme Military Council member Alaa al-Basha said that the rebels withdrew โ€œdue to a lack of ammunitions and weapons.โ€, there is another statement for your reasonable mind.

      The Britain-based Observatory, which relies on a network of activists and medics on the ground, also confirmed the fall of Al-Qusayr.
      “The army and Hezbollah have succeeded in taking Al-Qusayr after an intense bombardment of the town overnight,” it said. “The rebels have withdrawn to other areas because they were short of ammunition.”

      โ€œThe rebels withdrew from Al-Qusayr in exchange for lifting the siege off the district and the evacuation of civilians and injured people,โ€, there is another statement for you, but at least this one is saying that they withdrew as part of an agreement. Does that make you feel better?

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Yes your behind on your news it was a strategic withdrawal and now up to 70 hezblshayton members died after a martydom operation from JAN. Up to 40 shit and iranis have veen captured. ๐Ÿ˜‰ you wait and see chump.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Syrian Observatory for Human Rights posted a comment on their Facebook stating what happened 15hrs ago, “Homs province: Fighters from the Lebanese Hizbullah have overrun the city of al-Quseir after intense bombardment cover overnight by regime forces, which continued until dawn today. Reports indicate that the rebel forces retreated from the city due to lack of ammunition and men, this comes despite the many promises that supplies would reach the rebels of al-Quseir.”, so excuse me if I’m behind, but no news is out about your strategic comeback. Was releasing statements by the Syrian observatory, FSA supreme military council, and the General commission of the Syrian revolution of the loss of Al Qusayr part of the strategy?

          Al Qaeda (JAN) martyrdom operation killed 70 Hezbos, Wow!! What fantasy news are you reading? And those terrorist bastards don’t take prisoners they just behead them to release the soul, thats where your story falls apart. Why are they capturing shit anyway? Are they running low on fuel? They could probably ask Saudi Arabia or Qatar for more. Chump? Nice, chimp! I, unlike yourself don’t want to see Syria destroyed or their people killed any longer and if crushing the rebels is the way to get it done then so be it. I would like to see Assad step down and allow for free elections to be held and the rebuilding to begin.

          I was just talking to a Syrian gentlemen (Sunni) who left Syria 6 months ago to escape the fighting. He is from Homs and said that he lived in a building that had just about every religious sect living in it and they got along fine even with the fighting raging all around them. He also said that the rebels were lobbing mortars at the residential areas with no idea where or what they were hitting. My point, is there atrocities being committed by both sides and it has to stop. Can your blind hate for other religions allow you to see this or are you to obsessed with martyrdom? I mean 40 (?) Virgins does sound nice.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hate for other religions now i know your agenda your the person that uses religion as his sword infact 5 minutes ago my alawi neighbours pitbull just jumped over the fence and was scaring women and children in my street(christians buddhists hindus). While on their(alawi neighbours) behalf it was negligance leaving the dog untied and leaving the home i risked going outside letting the pitbull chase me my hand was actually in his jaw while i was trying to tie him up. So piss off with your religous propergander. Another thing 15hours ago? Chump mark my words get updated on your news or INDEPTH RESEARCH CRITEA. If you want to see a beter syria then you join the revoloution how can this long eared idiot win 99% of votes i wonder.

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Why you mad bro? Yes, 15 hours ago. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I personally hate religion because it leads to needless death in the name of something no one can prove to be true. I know that the Imams at all the peaceful mosques from Lebanon to Qatar are calling for jihad against another religious group and that is wrong. I, unlike you have given you the sources of the quotes I presented to you. You just spout shiite out your mouth with no sources to back it up. Tell me where you got your news so I can look it up, Chimp!

            Also, what about the indiscriminate shelling by the rebels? Most of who don’t know their elbows from their a**hole.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            How about iraq and iran? How about using warplanes against lightweight guns? How about chemical weapons being used? How about all the weapons from russia? What about the sargeant offering government positions to foreigners if they join the war?what about soldiers claiming to CLEANSE and the massacres they cause?I can show you a video of how hezblshayton raped a women threw her bi zilet raba(naked) on the street and any FSA rebel who tried to save her they shot at. Using humans as bait now thats just pathetic as claiming somebody who opposes the long eared donkey as biassed and intolerent of other religions. Now answer me this how legitament is hezblshayton when they are helping a donkey who forged votes and jailed and threatened people at the polls so he can win? My sources you will not find on the internet ;-))

          4. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            How about Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, and Saudia Arabia? How about the Imams promising Jihadis a place in heaven and many virgins if they go fight in Syria? What about the rebels who threaten to cleanse Syria of the Alwaite? I also would like to see the video you speak of, but I doubt it even exists just like your sources. You never know though, there are some evil people in this world.

            You should start your own web page and then you can use that as your source. You can call it “theshiitethatcomesoutofmymouth”

            What is it with you and big ears?

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I am not pulling with any group i am against a call for jihad in syria by khomani or qurdowi or anyone the war to me is political, and i am pulling with the individuals who are fighting to protect their homes and those who cannot fight to protect their homes and with the people who want a proper voting system in place and not this 99% garbage. The rebels (not the jihadis) seem to have this ideaology that protects those of modest social standing. Unlike HA whome have solid evidence against them that the war is an oppertunity to spread there ideaology to turn lebanon into the irani islamic republic this is why i hate HA. The war is syrian so leave it for the syrian. HA also seem to want to protect this donkey (long eared) after the atrocities him and his army have commited where is the fairness in that? Is it ok to call somebody generalise and call a terrorist all who holds a gun to protect his home against a tyrant who knows his army is raping and killing civilians and still wants to stay in power? Killing innocent civillians by using warplanes and tanks to ‘allegedly’ target terrorists? You cant! Thats incorrect and to come from a primeminister(uneducated only in power because of his father) is even worse. He should be locked up just for his statement and his statement ignited spreading of chaos. Now its clear you still think HA is helping lebanon and i will provide you evidence and well see what you have to say ๐Ÿ˜‰

          6. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The oppressed Syrians have a right to fight, but the jihadis that flooded Syria in the past year do not. Why are the hezbos fighting? In my opinion, their fighting to protect their interests (the reason anyone fights). If Assad falls and the new dictator (thats what will happen) is not favorable to the Hezbos then they will lose a lot. Also, it probably has to do with internal Lebanese conflicts (sunni vs. shiite). They saw the hundreds if not thousands of Sunni fighters crossing into Syria to fight Assad and decided if they fight we fight. There is also clear evidence that some Sunni groups want to turn Lebanon into the sunna republic of Lebanon, run by sharia law. Not gonna happen!!

            Its easy to win 99% of the votes when you’re the only one on the ballot. Am I wrong? What other options did people have? Assad is another Arab dictator and most of the other Arab countries are also run by dictators. Many of the Arab countries helping the rebellion are run by dictators. They crush any dissent without mercy. Even in the democracy of Turkey they are dealing with dissent through violence.

            posted this for someone else earlier, but he did not respond. Lets say Assad calls off his Military and steps down tomorrow. You’re given power to rule that day, what would you do to begin the healing process? How would you treat the minorities? How would you handle the Syrians that fought along Assad? I mean they were fighting for their lives (at least thats what they think). They have a right to defend their villages and people to. Right?

            We seem to forget that this war is a civil war. The military is made up of Syrians. The Syrians that back the regime have every right to syria as anyone else.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            La Chronique du Printemps Arabe ูŠูˆู…ูŠุงุช ุงู„ุฑุจูŠุน ุงู„ุนุฑุจูŠ, par Cรฉdric Labrousse1 hour agoย ยทย SYRIA – CHRONICLE MAP – RAGING BATTLE IN NORTH-QUSAYR / REBELS (FROM SIF, AL NUSRA, INDEPENDANT FSA KATIBA, …) DON’T WANT TO LET QUSAYR TO FALL ENTIRELY / LOYALIST TRY DURING THE NIGHT TO PUSH ENTER DABA’A – CHRONICLE INFORMATION – Clashes continue during the night and theย morning of 6th june, after a counter-attack of rebels in North-Qusayr, trying to consolidate their positions around the stadium and north to national hospital, forcing Hezbollah to evacuate journalist from the city to Homs before the night. Important battle take place too in north of Daba’a, where alawite militias. Many civilians fled to Buwaydah ash Sharqiyah (Qusayr is a desert now, of ruins, smoke and foreign religious fighters from Hezbollah, iraqi militias and iranian pasdaran). Chronicle, another time, denounce medias and alter-medias cover about Syria : after only reporting from SOHR, they only work about SANA… But never with syrian contacts…

          8. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Nice! So they have lost Qusayr, but the fighting continues in the northern part of the town and the surrounding area. No mention of 80 dead hezbo that you stated earlier. Is this a unbiased source? Doubt it , but at least you found something to post even if it does not back up your claims. I’m sure the fighting in that area is far from over.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I know my sources are strong and you will hear it soon i dont have authority to post the name as of yet.hence it does back the claim al qusayr has not been taken over ๐Ÿ˜‰

            proof hezblshayton want syria and lebanon to become part of iran islamic republic and dont care about lebanon
            /watch?v=zAt7L9Lzl2c
            Aleppo | A member of the Syrian freedom fighters was able to obtain footage of this secret meeting of Assad officials addressing soldiers, civilians and members of foreign Shi’ite militias in the Hezbollaat held towns of Zahra and Nubl speaking about their strategy to retake Mennagh air base

            Syrian official promises every volunteer who creates a militia of 50 will be rewarded as a permanent employee of the syrian government.He also promises hezblaat towns zahra and nubl to be the future capital under the flag of al hussayn.

          10. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The Shia Holy book hate speech preach that who ever differ with the Shias are subject to kill . Please read thisโ€œFor those in our (Shiaโ€™s) State who differ with us, there is a punishment. God has made their blood Halal (permissible to be shed) when our Qaโ€™im (Shiaโ€™s 12 imam) emerges.โ€( Baqir Al-Majlisiโ€™s Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 50, p. 373)Explain this teaching

            โ€œ The money of the Al-Nasib (the Sunni) is Halal (permissible to be stolen) and every thing he owns is Halal.โ€ ( Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 2, p. 48 and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 11, p.60)

          11. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I thought the Shi’ite holy book was the Quran. The same ones the Sunni use. Religion is F’d up. There are plenty of things in the Quran that I find wrong. Like how you can beat your wife if she disobeys you. If you invade a village its ok to take the women for yourself even if they are married (spoils of war). I’m curious how the Imam in Saudia Arabia justified his rape, torture, and murder of his 5 year old daughter. The dictators there were going to release him from prison if he paid the mother a set amount of money ( I think his daughter was worth $30,000), but international uproar changed their minds and he was put back in jail. Yet at the same time they will cut your hand off for stealing. Some really backwards thinking. Stuck in the stone-age mentality as the rest of the world moves forward and upwards laughing the whole time.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Watch BBC – they had ‘feet on the ground’ journalists …

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=AFj7J7dla30

            /watch?v=yp0ZR6-qAQc

          14. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            The Hezbos know that this would be impossible and would not risk getting attacked by 60% of the Lebanese population that isn’t Shi’ite. Lebanon is for all Lebanese regardless of your religious affiliation. If someone doesn’t like it they can go to Israel, Iran, Saudia Arabia or the Vatican City.

          15. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Strangely enough, Man-O, a ‘few’ seemed to take the option … ๐Ÿ˜‰
            (left room for Syrian refugees, I guess.)

          16. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=uJVOruKm178

            Al Qusair, Homs province, 05-06-2013: Dr. Qassim Al Zein in Al Qusair told Radio Free Syria a short time ago that efforts are underway to transport injured civilians from Al Qusair to Lebanon, with the wounded currently trapped in the village of Buwayda, which has been devastated by relentless regime bombardment, with no humanitarian agencies helping in the efforts to get the injured to safety. Tens of thousands of civilians are still trapped in Al Qusair.

            I asked an Afghan โ€“ always the trustiest source for such information โ€“ why Hezbollah was taking such huge casualties. Here is the reply I got: โ€œIn southern Lebanon, when they were fighting the Israelis, Hezbollah knew their own land and their own territory.

            โ€œThey were fighting from home and the Israelis fell into the trap because they didnโ€™t know Lebanon. The occupied always know the territory be…tter than the occupiers. But now Hezbollah are on unfamiliar territory. The Syrians know Qusayr. Hezbollah do not.โ€

            A big โ€œouchโ€. I guess Sayyed Nasrallah thinks about this.

            – Robert Fisk (An English writer and journalist from Maidstone, Kent. He has been Middle East correspondent of The Independent for over thirty years, primarily based in Beirut).

          17. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Sad video : ( You can really hear the desperation in his voice.

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            I hear that they are promising 72 virgins nowadays. It might be decreased now after their defeat in Al-Qusayr. Or maybe increased to give the terrorist an incentive to go and die in the name of jihad.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            It was always 72. People keep quoting different numbers. They come in blocks of 72. We’re not sure how they are created, But there you go. 72.
            (I’d have enough trouble with one … although it could be fun ‘teaching’.)
            Jehovah’s Witnesses (marturs original) ran the numbers game a different way. They believe in being pacifists (good idea) … because their version of ‘The Book’ says there are only so many spaces (private cubicles?) in Heaven. Nevertheless, being human, they also increased in numbers on the planet. Eventually some realized there were more of them than there are spaces. This required a ‘political’ solution – of course – and they simply ‘uppd’ the numbers so no-one would fight over it. Logical – in a religious way.
            Wasn’t that sensible?? ๐Ÿ˜‰

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Even plane or a tank is ‘indiscriminant’ when it’s shell explodes – although it may have had a target … and most of the rubble in Syria was created by random shelling … we know who from.

          21. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I think there is a difference between having a target when firing and the shoot and pray method used primarily by the rebels. I agree the tank and plane fire can go off target (even the best weapons in the world go off the mark sometimes), but at least there was a target. However, there is tons of footage of the shoot and pray strategy. They don’t even try to aim most of the time.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hope the dog has it’s rabies shots …. :-/

          23. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Reasonable, come on man. The terrorist got their asses kicked. And please, strategic withdrawal. More like they shit themselves. Al-Qusayr is now fully under the control of the real Syrian army and was always going to be.

          24. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            If you want to believe so then believe, unfortunately i cannot provide the sources but even if i did you wouldnt believe. So on my behalf i didnt provide sources so i may be called hypacritic but time will tell today is a new day.

          25. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Surprise surprise! No sources to speak of. So, may ask where you came up with breaking news?

          26. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Its fair to ask you now for your evidence that rebels want to turn lebanon into an islamic republic. I know JAN have tried turning al raqqa into a sharia neighbourhood but please enlighten me how this affects lebanon and how on earth JAN allegedley represent ALL sunnis in syria when JAN who undertake orders from terrorist alquaida who LIVE in terrorist IRAN?

          27. dateam Avatar

            ok heres one for you…hours ago an army checkpoint in arsal was attacked…the army killed the purputrators…one was syrian and one was lebanese….now what the frig does the lebanese army have to do with the so called fight for democracy in syria?

          28. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Ah ok so where are the from im assuming your gonna say tripoli ok fine where abouts maybe tebbeneh or jabal did they say LOL? I bet not

          29. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I never said that JAN (Al Qaeda) or the rebels wanted to turn Lebanon into an Islamic republic. I said some Sunni groups want to turn Lebanon into an Islamic republic governed by Sharia law. All you have to do is go to a Friday prayer in Tripoli to hear about their wet dreams. I believe every country should be non-sectarian.

            Anyway, here is a video for you.

            /watch?v=HB8FrEtOr0Q

            and here is one of their leaders who got deported from Britain back to Lebanon

            /watch?v=Of0rtW9yC98

          30. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            So is the 1st video in tripoli because ive got some friends in tripoli who say such a thing didnt happen they could be wrong but i tried to support your claim by thinking of the worst case scenario but really no evidence that is in tripoli. Alqueada yes maybe in syria but we all know they have connections to iran and anything to do with iran i and vast majority of people who really know alqueada are from iran will reject. As for the second video what relivence does it have for syria and lebanon? When people are armed and calling for sharia law is one thing or armed and controlling a country and somehow only one 2 seats in the last elections is another thing.

          31. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            In Tripoli, there are MOST people who want to live in peace, with jobs and schools and everything functioning (as it does amazingly a lot of the time – even without the jobs ….) and they march in ‘demonstrations’ to try to have the guns condemned and gone.
            And then, there are ‘the others’ who screw all that up. LAF is only beginning to work on it … thanks to politicians who can’t figure out ‘what is Lebanon’.

          32. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Thats correct 100% no doubt, but theres more than reasonable grounds to believe the same thing thats happening is happening in beirut. Factories stored with weapons not to be touched by the LAF only by HA. They are both threats no doubt and im a believer in tackling the bigger threat and the rest will be childs play. I really feel sorry for the army taking orders from individuals whome i feel have a long way to go to figuring out lebanon.

          33. dateam Avatar

            Heres something you might find interesting below is a list from early 2012 of the fireign fighters accounted for that were killed in fighting JIHAD in syria ( see here is where the opposition got it wrong foreign fighters were and are not fighting for democracy they are fighting to kill period). libya 61 tunisia 187 saudia arabia 59 jordan 40 kuwait 39 chechnya 33 palestinian 33 azebaijan 32 lebanon 29 egypt 20 turkey 20 belgium 18 afghanistan 12 albania 10 iraq 9 dagestan 8 morocco 8 qatar 6 algeria 5 bosnia 4 yemen 4 sweden 4 australia 3 denmark 3 ireland 3 china 2 uae 2 france 2 mauritania 2 sudan 2 britain 1 bulgaria 1 canada 1 chad 1 holland 1 spain1….find me 1 sheikh from the beginning related to the opposition that called for a fight for democracy in syria or rather they were calling for jihad….now if you are a westerner or alawite,christian,shiite,druze,jew,orthodox,budhist,gay,aethiest or whatever and heard this rhetoric what would you do? Support it? Heres fact for you al qusar had a 10% christians population living amongst all the other religions when the rebels came they all fled…deir azzor’s christian population have all fled when the rebels came….when the government began its attack on qusar the rebels first fled to a village called al-duvair they massacred the christians there and the rest were forced to flee….so in effect with this do you blame the hzb for doing what it did? In spite of peoples opinions and my own i do not blame them….why does the opposition which is supposedly fighting for freedom ( and dont get me wrong there is opposition trying to but unfortunately they have allowed themselves to be overrun by the foreign mercenaries brought in they are disjointed and have been infighting from day one…just the other day while the battle for qusar was raging a section of the opposition resigned claiming that their is a disconnect from the heirachy as they battle on the ground and the heirachy lives it up in nice hotels) need to kidnap 11 lebanese and 2 priests? what value does that add to their cause? You see in the real world you cannot keep blaming everyone for your wrongs their comes a time when you have to tuck your skirt in and do what you have to….Dont be in denial this is not sectarian it was a battle for democracy but the same greed and power people were fighting against ate them up as well…now unfortunately you reap what you sow….

          34. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            /watch?v=foaQ5RdoY5Y
            here is what assads army does rapes girls and use them as bait.

          35. dateam Avatar

            Brother it is now irrelevant who did what because both have committed atrocities…we all saw the eating heart episode…we are now in the here and now…unfortunately go through history of all the wars and tell me where atrocities were not committed from both sides…..people all come last…we are all pawns in chess game that is bigger than all of us.

          36. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Not both groups, individuals from both groups YES, have commited atrocities and i can also supply you with a video of abusakkar aka heart eater saying sorry he is not part of any movement (the guy was already dead) and that he is willing to face justice even if it means his death when bashar faces his justice for the atrocities his commited i mean thats very reasonable. We are only what we allow ourself to be i am no pawn and neither should you be.

          37. dateam Avatar

            brother god bless you i cant reason with someone that says even though someone is dead its ok to rip out his heart and eat…lets agree to disagree

          38. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Really dont know when i said its ok you must be dreaming, its a crime to mutilate a body no matter what, but its even worse when you torture and mutilate while the person is alive and also murder a person.
            Like assads thugs in this video
            watch?v=kikhPhy7D5I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          39. dateam Avatar

            ok we agree atrocities have been committed on both sides…i too can show you videos of atrocities committed on both sides….theres one video where the rebels make a 10 year old kid decapitate his own fathers head…..we can go on and on…the point your failing to understand is that initially this was a fight for democracy however the opposition couldnt get its shit together allowing the radicals to take over….just look at the opposition they are all over the place….you have guys on the ground fighting and guys sitting in luxury hotels claiming their also fighting for democracy when in fact they are only fighting for power….i ask you this…what is your views on bahrains fight for democracy? What about myanmar where muslims are being cleansed? what about palestine for 70 years? Are you aware that mass graves were found this week in palestine ? atrocities committed by the jews during the nakba? Where was the outcry from the sunni world? Where was the arab league meeting to demand israel be taken to the hague for war crimes? Where was one of these sheikhs calling for jihad making at least one comment of condemnation?Is this a fight for democracy or has it become sectarian? Or is the sectarian line the easy way out? Did you know assads wife is a sunni? You failed to answer one of my previous questions…find me 1 sheikh who called for democracy just one? Dont you see they have scared the shit out of everyone even those opposed to assad have now changed their minds because they have seen what has been happening…..both sides have made their decisions and both sides have to live with the consequences….we arabs will never learn….the opposition ran to the americans and what did they do for them?

          40. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Touching. yes the inital fight is for democracy and thats my stance but really you cant blame the opposition if bashar the so called educated didnt decapitate the kids and try to silence the uprisings with an iron fist we wouldnt be in this situation. You cant say the opposition allowed the foreign fighters with open arms either. If bashar and his so called army couldnt even stop foreigners from entering syria where are the tax payers money going why does the country have a useless army. They even let israel in and blow things up TWICE and still are yet to retaliate. It took 3 weeks to do something in qusayr which is supposed to be done in a couple of hours(still havnt taken over completely lol). Bahrain i will not comment about i have no proper understanding of it. I dont recall a sheikh in lebanon calling for sharia law although they may have called for jihad(struggle) to fight for the oppressed and thats not calling for sharia but give me something to work with instead of generalising that all masheye5 are the same and expect me to give you a comment by generalising. The opposition ran to america for democracy something bashar needs to learn the meaning of.

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes, sounds bad Dateam … unless you’re really hungry. ๐Ÿ˜‰
            I forget the name of the book at the moment … Story of the people who survived a long time in the Andes after a plane-crash by living on dead people’s body-parts for a long time. Of course, the meat was frozen … until they cooked it. ๐Ÿ™‚
            It’s ok … and they said the prayers over the bodies first. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          42. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Alive

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ah, yes … I’d forgotten the title, although I’d read it. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

          44. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            The state of this nation is a sad one… Criminal culture and criminal religion. tfeh
            I am so happy I no longer subscribe to this low life nation… Next I will wipe my ass with the old passport.

          45. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            No, no, Hannibal … save it for posterity, not posterior. :-)))
            Your kids will be happy to frame it after you’re gone, and hang it on a wall somewhere – maybe with a blow-up of the wonderful pictures all the passports contain. :-))

          46. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            The difficulty with naming the countries any particular ‘fighter’ came ‘from’ and/or simply happens to carry a passport from, while also claiming that they are Muslim, is that you cannot really say they are part of that country of passport. As any of a variety of Jihadiis or terrorists or freedom-fighters, they are all living the way of the ‘Muslim Country’ – sort of ‘by the book’ – and only demonstrating that sectarian crap which exists between various factions of all religions. Basically, you need to say in this case that it is a Muslim War.
            Now, if you had the name of a German-Jewish guy born in Israel, OR an Anglo-Saxon Christian born in Britain, and they were fighting with the various Jihadiis, THAT would be something to crow about – and they would be the guys to interview for their ‘valid’ reasons to be killing every day when possible, beyond the fact it’s exciting and brings in a good buck as long as they survive.
            If there were a huge bunch of THOSE types, ‘the west’ might actually be more interested – beyond wringing it’s hands in shock at the atrocities … which it also knows have occurred in any war in history anyway.
            War – and living in it – IS Hell. (It’s that ‘man’-thing, ya know? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  11. freelebanonman Avatar
    freelebanonman

    you filthy shiite fighting and killing civilians and your fellows muslims in syria who are fighting a tyrant murderous regime , you celebrating victory against muslim people in their own country and you call yourselfs muslims , you shiites are nothing but rottens and the pray fo every muslim that who from shiites who fights with Hezbolah the shaytan in syria comes back in a coffin and killed like pigs , Allah willings Assad and his his tyrant regime gangs will be slaughtered by the syrian people and every muslim who loves and fights for free democratic syria free from the pig Assad and his gangs and you shiites who fights with that murderer will face the same ugly end and fate.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      There is always two sides to the story, but your hate for other religions is blinding you. I’m sorry for your ignorance. Hypothetical situation for you: Lets say Assad calls off his Military and steps down tomorrow. You’re given power to rule that day, what would you do to begin the healing process? How would you treat the minorities? How would you handle the Syrians that fought along Assad? I mean they were fighting for their lives (at least thats what they think). They have a right to defend their villages and people to. Right?

    2. Moe28 Avatar

      What about the Tyrants of Bahrain you filthy Wahhabi ? Or the Tyrants of Al Qatif in Saudi Arabia or Saddam the Tyrant of Iraq? Stop being a hypocrite.

  12. freelebanonman Avatar
    freelebanonman

    you filthy shiite fighting and killing civilians and your fellows muslims in syria who are fighting a tyrant murderous regime , you celebrating victory against muslim people in their own country and you call yourselfs muslims , you shiites are nothing but rottens and the pray fo every muslim that who from shiites who fights with Hezbolah the shaytan in syria comes back in a coffin and killed like pigs , Allah willings Assad and his his tyrant regime gangs will be slaughtered by the syrian people and every muslim who loves and fights for free democratic syria free from the pig Assad and his gangs and you shiites who fights with that murderer will face the same ugly end and fate.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      There is always two sides to the story, but your hate for other religions is blinding you. I’m sorry for your ignorance. Hypothetical situation for you: Lets say Assad calls off his Military and steps down tomorrow. You’re given power to rule that day, what would you do to begin the healing process? How would you treat the minorities? How would you handle the Syrians that fought along Assad? I mean they were fighting for their lives (at least thats what they think). They have a right to defend their villages and people to. Right?

    2. Moe28 Avatar

      What about the Tyrants of Bahrain you filthy Wahhabi ? Or the Tyrants of Al Qatif in Saudi Arabia or Saddam the Tyrant of Iraq? Stop being a hypocrite.

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    ran-Hezbollah-Assad could not have chosen a worse date in the memory of many Arabs than June 6, 2013 to mark their victory in Qusayr and the fall of Qusayr since June 6, 1967 is the anniversary of the 6 Day War tragedy. Now it is overshadowed by the fall of Qusayr and Syria tragedy. The resistance axis has now changed that date to being one of a double tragedy and hypocrisy of the resistance that has turned against most Arabs. June 6, 2013 will represent Hezbollah’s betrayal and its phony resistance that overshadows June 6, 1967 forever.

  14. Guest Avatar

    ran-Hezbollah-Assad could not have chosen a worse date in the memory of many Arabs than June 6, 2013 to mark their victory in Qusayr and the fall of Qusayr since June 6, 1967 is the anniversary of the 6 Day War tragedy. Now it is overshadowed by the fall of Qusayr and Syria tragedy. The resistance axis has now changed that date to being one of a double tragedy and hypocrisy of the resistance that has turned against most Arabs. June 6, 2013 will represent Hezbollah’s betrayal and its phony resistance that overshadows June 6, 1967 forever.

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