New details emerge of anti-Islam film

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Some time in the summer, a small theater in Los Angeles screened a movie to which hardly anyone came.

It was a clunky film filled with scenes in a desert and in tents. The characters were cartoonish; the dialogue gauche.

The actors who’d responded to a July 2011 casting call thought they were making an adventure film set 2,000 years ago called “Desert Warrior.” That’s how Backstage magazine and other acting publications described it.

The American-made movie, it turns out, was hardly an innocent desert action flick.

Instead, the movie, backed by hardcore anti-Islam groups in the United States, is a tome on Islam as fraud. In trailers posted on YouTube in July, viewers saw this: scene after scene of the Prophet Mohammed portrayed as a womanizer, buffoon, ruthless killer and child molester.

Islam forbids all depictions of Mohammed, let alone insulting ones.

The Muslim world erupted in rage.

Protesters aired their anti-American anger in Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Israel and the Palestinian territories. Violent mobs attacked the U.S. Consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi leaving theambassador and three other Americans dead.

As outrage spread, the film’s origins still remained murky. Whose idea was it? Who financed it?

At the heart of the mystery was the filmmaker himself, a man identified in the casting call as Sam Bassiel, on the call sheet as Sam Bassil and reported at first by news outlets as Sam Bacile.

But federal officials consider that man to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who was convicted in 2009 of bank fraud.

The FBI contacted the filmmaker because of the potential for threats, a federal law enforcement official told CNN Thursday. But he is not under investigation.

With media parked at his residence in Cerritos, California, Nakoula called the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department Wednesday night to report a disturbance, said spokesman Steve Whitmore. He wanted local police to protect him.

When news of his movie first broke, the filmmaker identified himself as Sam Bacile and told the Wall Street Journal that he was a 52-year-old Israeli-American real estate developer from California. He said Jewish donors had financed his film.

But Israel’s Foreign Ministry said there was no record of a Sam Bacile with Israeli citizenship.

“This guy is totally anonymous. At this point, no one can confirm he holds Israeli citizenship, and even if he did we are not involved,” ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said.

A search by CNN of public records related to Bacile came up empty. A search of entertainment records turned up no previous mention of a Sam Bacile, and the directors and writers guilds had no listing for him.

CNN has not been able to speak with the filmmaker.

A production staff member who worked on the film in its initial stages told CNN that an entirely different name was filed on the paperwork for the Screen Actors Guild: Abenob Nakoula Bassely. A public records search showed an Abanob B. Nakoula residing at the same address as Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

He believed the filmmaker was a Coptic Christian and when the two spoke on the phone during production, the filmmaker said he was in Alexandria, Egypt, raising money for the film. There has been a long history of animosity between Muslims and the minority Copts in Egypt.

Another staffer who worked on the film said he knew the producer as Sam Bassil. That’s how he signed a personal check to pay staff.

The staffer said he was “99% positive” that Sam Bassil was not Jewish. He had quite a few religious pieces in his house, including images of the Madonna.

He was married with two children — the daughter helped during production and even brought in lunch on a few occasions, the staffer said.

Neither staffer wanted to be identified for security reasons.

When CNN inquired about Sam Bassil, the U.S. attorney’s office sent a copy of a 2009 indictment. Those court documents showed the bank fraud conviction for Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

Several other aliases — Mark Basseley Youssef, Yousseff M. Basseley, Nicola Bacily and Malid Ahlawi — were all listed as aliases in the indictment. Other court documents listed Thomas J. Tanas, Ahmad Hamdy and Erwin Salameh also as aliases.

In his interview with the Wall Street Journal, the filmmaker characterized his movie, now called “Innocence of Muslims,” as “a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam.”

“Islam is a cancer,” he said. “The movie is a political movie. It’s not a religious movie.”

Cindy Garcia, an actress in the film, told CNN that the original script did not include a Prophet Mohammed character. She said she and other actors complained that their lines had been changed.

She said she spoke Wednesday with the producer.

“He said he wrote the script because he wants the Muslims to quit killing,” Garcia said. “I had no idea he was doing all this.”

Garcia described the movie’s repercussions as a “nightmare,” given the outrage and deaths, and she regretted having a role. She said she was angry and hurt by the lies.

The 79 other cast and crew members said they were “grossly misled” about the film’s intent.

YouTube restricts video access over Libyan violence

“The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer,” they said in a statement.

They said they were “shocked by the drastic rewrites of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.”

Garcia said that the character of Mohammed in the movie was named George when it was shot, and that after production wrapped she returned and read other lines that may have been dubbed into the piece.

A member of the production staff who worked on the film and has a copy of the original script corroborated the woman’s account. There was no mention of Mohammed or Islam, the crew member said.

The filmmaker told the Wall Street Journal Jewish donors contributed $5 million to make the film. Based on the trailer, however, the amateurish movie appears to have been produced on a low budget.

Anti-Muslim activist Steve Klein, who said he was a script consultant for the movie, said the filmmaker told him his idea was to make a film that would reveal “facts, evidence and proof” about the Prophet Mohammed to people he perceived as radical Muslims.

Klein said the movie was called “Innocence of Bin Laden.”

“Our intent was to reach out to the small minority of very dangerous people in California and try to shock them into understanding how dangerous Islam is,” Klein said.

“We knew that it was going to cause some friction, if anybody paid attention to it,” he said.

But when Klein went to the screening in the Los Angeles theater, no one was there.

“It was a bust, a wash,” he said.

Killing shines light on Muslim sensitivities around Prophet Mohammed

But a while later, the trailers were online. They were segments focusing on the Prophet Mohammed and posted under the title, “Innocence of Mohammed.”

The trailers were translated into Egyptian dialects of Arabic, the New York Times reported. Egyptian television aired certain segments.

And the fury erupted.

Klein told CNN Wednesday that the filmmaker, whom he called Sam Bacile, was in hiding.

“He’s very depressed, and he’s upset,” Klein said. “I talked to him this morning, and he said that he was very concerned for what happened to the ambassador.”

The Atlantic later quoted Klein as saying that Sam Bacile was a pseudonym. He said he did not know Bacile’s real name.

Klein is known in Southern California for his vocal opposition to the construction of a mosque in Temecula, southeast of Los Angeles, in 2010. He heads up Concerned Citizens for the First Amendment, a group that contends Islam is a threat to American freedom.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, says Klein, a former Marine and Vietnam veteran, helped train militant Christian fundamentalists prepare for war.

On Thursday, a Los Angeles County official denied a CNN’s request to view a copy of the film permit filed for the production of “Innocence of Muslims.”

“While these permits are typically made available to the public, online, this particular permit has been temporarily removed at the specific request of Federal authorities, who have cited public safety concerns,” county Assistant Chief Executive Officer Ryan J. Alsop told CNN in an e-mail.

Alsop later revised his statement to say that the permit “is not being made available to the public at this time due to public safety concerns raised by the U.S. State Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigations. The Federal government has not issued an official request to the County of Los Angeles to remove the permit.”

A permit is required when filming is done outside of a certified soundstage or studio backlot, which could involve cameras in public spaces, according to Film L.A. Inc., the private nonprofit group set up by the city and county of Los Angeles to process film permits.

The FBI and U.S. Department of Homeland Security issued a joint intelligence bulletin about how the film poses “security concerns to U.S. interests at home and abroad,” according to the bulletin obtained by CNN.

“Although there has been no violent reaction to the film in the Homeland thus far, the risk of violence could increase both at home and abroad as the film continues to gain attention. Additionally, we judge that violent extremist groups in the United States could exploit anger over the film to advance their recruitment efforts,” the bulletin says.

The movie got even more notice after it was promoted by anti-Islam activists, including Egyptian-born Coptic Christian Morris Sadek and Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose Quran-burning last year sparked deadly riots in Afghanistan.

Jones said he had been contacted to help distribute the film.

“The film is not intended to insult the Muslim community, but it is intended to reveal truths about Mohammed that are possibly not widely known,” Jones said in a statement.

“It is very clear that God did not influence him (Mohammed) in the writings of the Quran,” said Jones, who went on to blame Muslims’ fear of criticism for the protests, rather than the film.

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called Jones to ask him to withdraw his support for the film, said Col. David Lapan, Dempsey’s spokesman.

“Jones’ support of the film risks causing more violence and death,” Lapan said.

That fear mounted as anger raged in the Muslim world and especially as Friday, Islam’s day of religious observance, fast approached.

CNN

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72 responses to “New details emerge of anti-Islam film”

  1. 1hetruthprojec1 Avatar
    1hetruthprojec1

    Blah blah blah blah…

    1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      i bet the author of the movie is a yahoodi faking to be coptic; the plan is to make the copts in egypt fight the muslims like they did in lebanon; they are mirroring to them a coptic state on the border with south Soudan. I hope the copts dont fall into the yahoodi trap. Wars are always bad: ask the lebanese people. Unfortunately the syrians are so stupid: even though they were behind most of the war in Lebanon (in alliance with their yahoodi allies at that time) and witnessed most of it yet they did not learn that wars are not made to make winners and losers: main outcome is destruction and arrieration so that israel appears a superior country. Mind you if you tell me that israel is also in war i  will answer you “yes israel is indeed in war but the war in israel is not on israeli territory; always on enemy territory”. It is high time we move this war into israeli land; only then israel will deviate from its aggressive approach, an approach that we witness more an more especially after the alliance between the yahood and the saoudi wahhabi salafi royal family, whose main purpose is to steal america part of the petrodollars they earn from saoudi arabia.

      1. patriotss Avatar

        WELL SAID 

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Now it’s the American car-drivers getting paid to buy gas … by the Saudis no less. :-))))

      3. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Now it’s the American car-drivers getting paid to buy gas … by the Saudis no less. :-))))

  2. 1hetruthprojec1 Avatar
    1hetruthprojec1

    Blah blah blah blah…

    1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      i bet the author of the movie is a yahoodi faking to be coptic; the plan is to make the copts in egypt fight the muslims like they did in lebanon; they are mirroring to them a coptic state on the border with south Soudan. I hope the copts dont fall into the yahoodi trap. Wars are always bad: ask the lebanese people. Unfortunately the syrians are so stupid: even though they were behind most of the war in Lebanon (in alliance with their yahoodi allies at that time) and witnessed most of it yet they did not learn that wars are not made to make winners and losers: main outcome is destruction and arrieration so that israel appears a superior country. Mind you if you tell me that israel is also in war i  will answer you “yes israel is indeed in war but the war in israel is not on israeli territory; always on enemy territory”. It is high time we move this war into israeli land; only then israel will deviate from its aggressive approach, an approach that we witness more an more especially after the alliance between the yahood and the saoudi wahhabi salafi royal family, whose main purpose is to steal america part of the petrodollars they earn from saoudi arabia.

      1. patriotss Avatar

        WELL SAID 

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Now it’s the American car-drivers getting paid to buy gas … by the Saudis no less. :-))))

  3. Sad part is its the truth in the film that he was a pedophile warlord that used slaughter and submission to get what he wanted.. Now he has 1.5 billion brainwashed fools chasing his disillusion..

    1. being a pedophile was accepted back then… and everybody slaughtered everybody else for conquest and religion. Some still do…

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh Hannibal … Tsk … you can’t just pump out those historical briefs, you know. You need to give a whole dissertation on what you mean, and almost need to run a university-level study-course on your up-to-date thought processes, because a lot of people simply haven’t gotten the ‘concept’ of ‘past’ yet. :-))

        1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
          nayyashAl3arab

          i see you are agreeing with the yahoodi iran aware that the prophet was a pedophile; is this the way you want to build Lebanon by attacking other people’s beliefs.Why do you allow a yahoodu mud stirrer to divide us? where is your freedom of belief and of opinion? i believe each is free to worship whatever he likes; i respect hindous yet they worship cows

        2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
          nayyashAl3arab

          i see you are agreeing with the yahoodi iran aware that the prophet was a pedophile; is this the way you want to build Lebanon by attacking other people’s beliefs.Why do you allow a yahoodu mud stirrer to divide us? where is your freedom of belief and of opinion? i believe each is free to worship whatever he likes; i respect hindous yet they worship cows

        3. @nayyashAl3arab:disqus I did not agree I am just saying that all nations did that… Alexander the great had a wife yet he slept with men… At that time it was normal. Sodom and Gomorrha jews even slept with animals. Civilization and laws evolve… At least we hope.
          Now take a look at this link. It is what can I say? enlightening? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rkFQWLoVY4&feature=g-vrec
          Nobody is innocent… All religious nitwits should be reprogrammed. 

      2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
        nayyashAl3arab

        i did not say you did; it was actually 5thdrawer who did and she  keeps on liking their words despite the fact their forged history is against common teaching and against lebanese interests

        1. lefthanded Avatar

          We have different opinions regarding politics, but you have my outmost respect, we need more Lebanese like you, it’s good to think differently but the most important thing is respect.

      3. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
        nayyashAl3arab

        i did not say you did; it was actually 5thdrawer who did and she  keeps on liking their words despite the fact their forged history is against common teaching and against lebanese interests

      4. and in the Middle East it still is.. the they did it 1st thing dont work when you deal with islam..Its nothing but a joke upon a bunch of illiterate Arabs who believe any conspiracy they dream up as facts when in reality Islam will never achieve anything but the sh*thole it is. Until the 90% of the so called peace loving Muslims do something about the other 10% there is nothing to talk about.a radical cuts ff your head, a moderate watches and tells you why

    2.  Jewish Talmud Sahadrin 51 b allows Jews to marry a girl exactly 3 years and a day old.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Well Moe, that’s really a silly one, right? How much work can they do in a kitchen at 3?? ;-))

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Well Moe, that’s really a silly one, right? How much work can they do in a kitchen at 3?? ;-))

      3. Bullsh*t, quit trying to make that pedophile you adore better, it wont work..He shoulda been murdered centuries ago

      4. Bullsh*t, quit trying to make that pedophile you adore better, it wont work..He shoulda been murdered centuries ago

    3.  Zionism will be dealt with soon inshallah.

    4.  Zionism will be dealt with soon inshallah.

    5. Inshallah Iran sends a couple hundred thousand missiles at the Zionist terror entity when you make the mistake of touching Iran.

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        Eza Allah rad

      2. Suuuure… and you’ll be glowing while living in the dark fr a couple hundred years too.. Iran will be finished in less than a month

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        why would they do that while they have hezbollah and lebanon to sacrifice in the name of Allah

    6. Inshallah Iran sends a couple hundred thousand missiles at the Zionist terror entity when you make the mistake of touching Iran.

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        Eza Allah rad

      2. Suuuure… and you’ll be glowing while living in the dark fr a couple hundred years too.. Iran will be finished in less than a month

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        why would they do that while they have hezbollah and lebanon to sacrifice in the name of Allah

    7. NAYYASHME3RAB Avatar
      NAYYASHME3RAB

      aysha murdered him; actually she poisoned him

  4. Sad part is its the truth in the film that he was a pedophile warlord that used slaughter and submission to get what he wanted.. Now he has 1.5 billion brainwashed fools chasing his disillusion..

    1. being a pedophile was accepted back then… and everybody slaughtered everybody else for conquest and religion. Some still do…

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh Hannibal … Tsk … you can’t just pump out those historical briefs, you know. You need to give a whole dissertation on what you mean, and almost need to run a university-level study-course on your up-to-date thought processes, because a lot of people simply haven’t gotten the ‘concept’ of ‘past’ yet. :-))

        1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
          nayyashAl3arab

          i see you are agreeing with the yahoodi iran aware that the prophet was a pedophile; is this the way you want to build Lebanon by attacking other people’s beliefs.Why do you allow a yahoodu mud stirrer to divide us? where is your freedom of belief and of opinion? i believe each is free to worship whatever he likes; i respect hindous yet they worship cows

        2. @nayyashAl3arab:disqus I did not agree I am just saying that all nations did that… Alexander the great had a wife yet he slept with men… At that time it was normal. Sodom and Gomorrha jews even slept with animals. Civilization and laws evolve… At least we hope.
          Now take a look at this link. It is what can I say? enlightening? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rkFQWLoVY4&feature=g-vrec
          Nobody is innocent… All religious nitwits should be reprogrammed. 

      2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
        nayyashAl3arab

        i did not say you did; it was actually 5thdrawer who did and she  keeps on liking their words despite the fact their forged history is against common teaching and against lebanese interests

        1. lefthanded Avatar

          We have different opinions regarding politics, but you have my outmost respect, we need more Lebanese like you, it’s good to think differently but the most important thing is respect.

      3. and in the Middle East it still is.. the they did it 1st thing dont work when you deal with islam..Its nothing but a joke upon a bunch of illiterate Arabs who believe any conspiracy they dream up as facts when in reality Islam will never achieve anything but the sh*thole it is. Until the 90% of the so called peace loving Muslims do something about the other 10% there is nothing to talk about.a radical cuts ff your head, a moderate watches and tells you why

    2.  Jewish Talmud Sahadrin 51 b allows Jews to marry a girl exactly 3 years and a day old.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Well Moe, that’s really a silly one, right? How much work can they do in a kitchen at 3?? ;-))

      2. Bullsh*t, quit trying to make that pedophile you adore better, it wont work..He shoulda been murdered centuries ago

    3.  Zionism will be dealt with soon inshallah.

    4. Inshallah Iran sends a couple hundred thousand missiles at the Zionist terror entity when you make the mistake of touching Iran.

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        Eza Allah rad

      2. Suuuure… and you’ll be glowing while living in the dark fr a couple hundred years too.. Iran will be finished in less than a month

      3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        why would they do that while they have hezbollah and lebanon to sacrifice in the name of Allah

    5. NAYYASHME3RAB Avatar
      NAYYASHME3RAB

      aysha murdered him; actually she poisoned him

  5. 5thDrawer Avatar

    What is ‘Free Speech’?
    A ‘BLOG’ , to some extent, is something like ‘Speakers’ Corner’ … several of those in the world now, the original of which is found in London. You can ‘Wiki’ the history of Speaker’s Corner, of course.
    The ‘rights’ of free speech in public do have some rules, which have generally been debated on as well, since societes changed over time, but those rules apply against things which may cause societal havoc or are considered ‘bad form’ to the sensitivities of listening ears – such as profanity. Individual blog-sites have rules decided by their creators – yet as we can see, the concept of what one is allowed to write can be fairly broad. Because the subjects of ‘opinion’ – even within a dedicated blog-site – can expand broadly. This also helps in the sense of ‘connectivity’ of opinions on various subjects, and broadens concepts in minds, and can expand the popularity of the blog-site.
    As with Speaker’s Corner, we can listen, heckle, or simply walk away. That also is part of the freedom.

    In this ‘event of a movie’ we see the HUGE difference between concepts of freedom AS WELL AS the utilization by some, of a relatively small opinion, to foment political carnage on a society.
    ONE man, backed by a few friendly cronies perhaps, ‘creates’ a film of his sorry opinions in a society which allows him to do it. He has done nothing illegal according to that society’s rules, although perhaps has been underhanded – and is duly castigated for that by the actors.
    No-one thinks it’s very good, and it’s a flop – because both the subject of it and it’s ‘art form’ are decidedly poor. Indeed, in this society of ‘free thought’ all religious figureheads have had similar treatments at various times. No-one thinks it’s worth worrying about. Another nut-bar has come out with his opinion, and everyone walked away.

    BUT … some time later, some ‘clips’ of it – with again a translation probably squewed for a purpose and aired on TV – are used for another purpose.
    And a different society which has NOT gotten the concept of ‘Free Speech’ firmly in mind is forced to react … AND the reaction is against A WHOLE COUNTRY of different thoughts. It is a ‘political’ havoc created against freedom of thought.

    With the exception of 4 dead who were good friends of a country, the ones who suffer most are the politically afflicted. The ill-educated and the disenfranchised. The young aimless youth who simply feel in their frustrations that to run in the streets and wreak havoc anywhere, for any convenient excuse, have a wonderful reason to do it – even against their own society. America is the convenient figurehead. But the ‘war’ is against freedom of thought.

    Marx utilized Speakers’ Corner – as well as writing some ‘blogs’. Look how his words were utilized by politicians … against freedom.

    1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      sorry i like the use of this neowordism to wiki but i do not consider wiki a reference i rely upon

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        That’s why I didn’t quote it. I said it’s YOUR choice it look it up.
        ‘can’ implies ‘able to’ … not ‘you should’.

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        That’s why I didn’t quote it. I said it’s YOUR choice it look it up.
        ‘can’ implies ‘able to’ … not ‘you should’.

    2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      is this a copy and paste from wikiplegia? shall we call it wikieducopenia or wikiplagiaremia?

      1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
        nayyashAl3arab

        5th says that war is against frreedom of thought yet she approves an israeli war monger in this blog? does she copy and paste from wikiignoremia without understanding the meaning of what she plagiarises?

      2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
        nayyashAl3arab

        am sorry 5thdrawer; i used composite words that needed someone who went to higher education to be able to understand; try wiki

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well … I tried to keep it simple for you …

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well … I tried to keep it simple for you …

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar

    What is ‘Free Speech’?
    A ‘BLOG’ , to some extent, is something like ‘Speakers’ Corner’ … several of those in the world now, the original of which is found in London. You can ‘Wiki’ the history of Speaker’s Corner, of course.
    The ‘rights’ of free speech in public do have some rules, which have generally been debated on as well, since societes changed over time, but those rules apply against things which may cause societal havoc or are considered ‘bad form’ to the sensitivities of listening ears – such as profanity. Individual blog-sites have rules decided by their creators – yet as we can see, the concept of what one is allowed to write can be fairly broad. Because the subjects of ‘opinion’ – even within a dedicated blog-site – can expand broadly. This also helps in the sense of ‘connectivity’ of opinions on various subjects, and broadens concepts in minds, and can expand the popularity of the blog-site.
    As with Speaker’s Corner, we can listen, heckle, or simply walk away. That also is part of the freedom.

    In this ‘event of a movie’ we see the HUGE difference between concepts of freedom AS WELL AS the utilization by some, of a relatively small opinion, to foment political carnage on a society.
    ONE man, backed by a few friendly cronies perhaps, ‘creates’ a film of his sorry opinions in a society which allows him to do it. He has done nothing illegal according to that society’s rules, although perhaps has been underhanded – and is duly castigated for that by the actors.
    No-one thinks it’s very good, and it’s a flop – because both the subject of it and it’s ‘art form’ are decidedly poor. Indeed, in this society of ‘free thought’ all religious figureheads have had similar treatments at various times. No-one thinks it’s worth worrying about. Another nut-bar has come out with his opinion, and everyone walked away.

    BUT … some time later, some ‘clips’ of it – with again a translation probably squewed for a purpose and aired on TV – are used for another purpose.
    And a different society which has NOT gotten the concept of ‘Free Speech’ firmly in mind is forced to react … AND the reaction is against A WHOLE COUNTRY of different thoughts. It is a ‘political’ havoc created against freedom of thought.

    With the exception of 4 dead who were good friends of a country, the ones who suffer most are the politically afflicted. The ill-educated and the disenfranchised. The young aimless youth who simply feel in their frustrations that to run in the streets and wreak havoc anywhere, for any convenient excuse, have a wonderful reason to do it – even against their own society. America is the convenient figurehead. But the ‘war’ is against freedom of thought.

    Marx utilized Speakers’ Corner – as well as writing some ‘blogs’. Look how his words were utilized by politicians … against freedom.

  7. 5thDrawer Avatar

    What is ‘Free Speech’?
    A ‘BLOG’ , to some extent, is something like ‘Speakers’ Corner’ … several of those in the world now, the original of which is found in London. You can ‘Wiki’ the history of Speaker’s Corner, of course.The ‘rights’ of free speech in public do have some rules, which have generally been debated on as well, since societes changed over time, but those rules apply against things which may cause societal havoc or are considered ‘bad form’ to the sensitivities of listening ears – such as profanity. Individual blog-sites have rules decided by their creators – yet as we can see, the concept of what one is allowed to write can be fairly broad. Because the subjects of ‘opinion’ – even within a dedicated blog-site – can expand broadly. This also helps in the sense of ‘connectivity’ of opinions on various subjects, and broadens concepts in minds, and can expand the popularity of the blog-site.
    As with Speaker’s Corner, we can listen, heckle, or simply walk away. That also is part of the freedom.

    In this ‘event of a movie’ we see the HUGE difference between concepts of freedom AS WELL AS the utilization by some, of a relatively small opinion, to foment political carnage on a society.
    ONE man, backed by a few friendly cronies perhaps, ‘creates’ a film of his sorry opinions in a society which allows him to do it. He has done nothing illegal according to that society’s rules, although perhaps has been underhanded – and is duly castigated for that by the actors.
    No-one thinks it’s very good, and it’s a flop – because both the subject of it and it’s ‘art form’ are decidedly poor. Indeed, in this society of ‘free thought’ all religious figureheads have had similar treatments at various times. No-one thinks it’s worth worrying about. Another nut-bar has come out with his opinion, and everyone walked away.

    BUT … a year later, some ‘clips’ of it – with again a translation probably squewed for a purpose and aired on TV – are used for another purpose.
    And a different society which has NOT gotten the concept of ‘Free Speech’ firmly in mind is forced to react … AND the reaction is against A WHOLE COUNTRY of different thoughts. It is a ‘political’ havoc created against freedom of thought.

    With the exception of 4 dead who were good friends of a country, the ones who suffer most are the politically afflicted. The ill-educated and the disenfranchised. The young aimless youth who simply feel in their frustrations that to run in the streets and wreak havoc anywhere, for any convenient excuse, have a wonderful reason to do it – even against their own society. America is the convenient figurehead. But the ‘war’ is against freedom of thought.

    Marx utilized Speakers’ Corner – as well as writing some ‘blogs’. Look how his words were utilized by politicians … against freedom.

    1. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      sorry i like the use of this neowordism to wiki but i do not consider wiki a reference i rely upon

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        That’s why I didn’t quote it. I said it’s YOUR choice.

    2. nayyashAl3arab Avatar
      nayyashAl3arab

      is this a copy and paste from wikiplegia?

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        nayyashAl3arab

        5th says that war is against frreedom of thought yet she approves an israeli war monger in this blog? does she copy and paste from wikiignoremia without understanding the meaning of what she plagiarises?

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        nayyashAl3arab

        am sorry 5thdrawer; i used composite words that needed someone who went to higher education to be able to understand; try wiki

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well … I tried to keep it simple for you …

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