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20 Shiites forced off buses and killed in Pakistan

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A Pakistani official says gunmen forced 20 Shiites off buses in northern Pakistan and killed them.

The police official said the incident happened Thursday in the Naran Valley.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was worried about retribution.

The Deputy Inspector General of police in Gilgit, Ali Sher, said the victims were traveling from Rawalpindi, near the capital Islamabad, to Gilgit, a mostly Shiite area.

There have been several such sectarian attacks in the region in the past. Many Sunni extremists do not view Shiites as true Muslims.

CBS News’ Farhan Bokhari reports the attack comes at a sensitive time for predominantly Muslim Pakistan. On Friday, the country’s Muslims will celebrate Jumatul wida – the last Friday of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, which is an occasion that typically sees large gatherings of friends and family.

A senior government official who spoke to CBS NEWS on condition of anonymity warned that Thursday’s attack could provoke Shiite protests on Friday and increase sectarian tension across the country.

Though a minority in comparison to the Sunni Muslim majority in Pakistan, Shiites still comprise a significant portion of the nation’s population – between one fifth and one third of the populace, depending on the estimate.

CBS

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59 responses to “20 Shiites forced off buses and killed in Pakistan”

  1. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    This is what Wahhabi’s do!!

    1. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Correction: This is what the prophet of Islam did and these are just doing as their supreme leader did ! killing and killing and more killing…..in the name of God, as they shout “Allahu Akbar” while killing innocent people…
      This is your religion my friend ! WAKE  UP from this CRAP  !!!!!

      1. Moe2000 Avatar
        Moe2000

         Show me where Shia Muslim beheads someone for being a Christian Jew or a Sunni, Show me one!!!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I agree Moe … and bullets ARE much more humane.
          Although, I’m not sure I could say the same about bombs ….

        2. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
          Omeriko Omeriko

          I’m totally against such killings of innocent people, Shiites or others and I’m sad for their suffering. But what you are saying is pure rubbish. Iranian are those who masterminded the bombing of the Jewish community building in Argentina in which dozens were killed just because they were Jews – Not even Israelis!!! Why the hell did Iran bomb a Jewish center in far Argentina? 

          Shell I remind you Muktada a Sadr in Iraq? 

          Shell I remind you stoning or hanging people on cranes in the streets of Iran for some religious offences?

          Shell I remind you late PM Rafik al Hariri, rest in peace, that was murdered with many others, probably by Hizbullah? So Shiites don’t behead, they just bomb. What a relief… 

        3. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

          @yahoo-PZUP5FQOGLZX2CDKYSMHWI4YRI:disqus  First of all I’m against killing Jews Sunni’s or Christians for there faith,
          Secondly The Mahdi army only carried revenge attacks because of Wahhabi Al Qaeda blowing up innocent Shia in shopping markets and at places of worship, Thirdly I am against Sharia law that’s the only thing that i do not agree with Iran on. Hanging someone for having a drink or  adultery i do not agree with. And if someone chooses to leave Islam that is his choice Allah will judge him not fellow man. I am against man judging fellow man i prefer to leave it to Allah.

        4. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

           @yahoo-PZUP5FQOGLZX2CDKYSMHWI4YRI:disqus  If it was the Hezib or Iran that did the bombing in Argentina i cant tell you. Just take into consideration at the time Iran had the revolution and Hezbollah had just been founded and where still a loose rag tag group very different from today.

      2. bs244846 Avatar
        bs244846

        i believe each is free to believe in whatever he wants….i do not believe shi3as kill for the sake of killing…shi3as like christians in the middle east have been persecuted by sunnas….i believe anyone persecuted as a minority has the right to defend himself….the day any belief denies you the right in believing in what you want or considers you inferior just because you have another belief then this belief should be fought against….i am a christian and i dontt want anybody to impose upon me any belief like i do not impose my belief on anyone else and consider all humans equal regardless of their belief…but sunna islam does not see it like that…hence all minorities in middle east should ally against this gorilla represented by saoudi arabia…and foremost stop allowing america abuse of sunna blind fanatism and barbarism to produce wars between religions in middle east….hence my appeal to all sunnas to have a look of moderation into their belief and refrain from blindly following saoudi arabia…the head of the snake

      3. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        You are telling us the religion of islam is the only religion that has done killing and christianity is all about peace, where do I start, what about the crusaders, US wars in Korea, vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, WWI, WWII, Bosnia, Kosovo, British and French empires, …..Now you are going to tell me moslems had something to do with that.

        Let’s say we all have blood on our hands and noone is innocent.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I never said Christians do not kill or do not make war against others. Actually some of the biggest criminals in the world and in history are Christians: Examples: Hitler, Stalin (he was atheist but born christian), Napoleon, etc….and locally Geagea and Aoun, etc…
          All the wars you mentioned above were politically motivated, not religiously, except for the Crusades war which were religiously motivated because Islam’s purpose is eliminate all other religions, including Christianity and impose Islam on all people on earth, so the Crusades were to protect the holy land from being completely Islamized. In any case, all the wars initiated by these Christians, including the Crusades, were never inspired by the Bible or by the teachings of Jesus Christ, because in the Bible Jesus said: “LOVE YOUR ENNEMIES, BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE YOU”, “HE WHO LIVES BY THE SWORD DIES BY THE SWORD”.

          However, in the Kuran the “God” of Islam said to Mohammed: “Kill everyone who does not believe in Allah and his prophet”, the Killing in Islam is Religiously motivated. Muslims are promised paradise if they commit the JIHAD, remember!

          Killing in Islam is a DECREE from God (the Islam’s God). For this reason, any religion that intices its followers to kill others who do not believe in it, it is impossible that this religion is from GOD. Yes, Mohammad killed thousands, and caused muslims to kill hundreds of thousands within the last 1400+ years, ALL by DECREE from God.

          Yes, Christianity is all about peace, Jesus Christ is the ultimate peace and love and sacrifice, but Christians not all of them follow these teachings, these teachings are too perfect for us human sinners: How could we love our ennemies ? Only God would want all his children to love each other no matter what.

          Read the life of Mohammad, what do you see in it: Killing, Sex, Fornication, Rape, Theaft (legalized by God), Racism, and all sorts of weird teachings (Breastfeeding of adults, fornicating with a dead wife, marrying little girls, etc….).

          Islam my friend is a “FADIHA”  (an embarassment in English) simply put. Any simple regular muslim man has more conscience, wisdom, self respect and pitty in his heart than Mohammad and the God of Islam. Would you kill someone if he does not want to become Muslim ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did. Would you marry a six years old girl or marry your daughter at 6 for a 55 years old man ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did. Would you kill someone who changes his religion from Islam to any other religion ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did and asked his followers to kill every one who changes his religion (that is from Islam to any other religion).

          THIS IS ISLAM AND MOHAMMAD my friend. Wake up from the 1400+ years of brainwashing. All muslims these days are lucky that we are in the information technology revolution, anything you want to know you can know it by the push of a button. Take advantage of this technology and discover Islam for its truth from the the islamic sources themselves, and then use your brain that GOD gave you to use and distinguish between GOOD and BAD, RIGHT and WRONG.

          Goof Luck! Your comment Slick turned me on and could not stop typing….

      4. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        What you have stated below is the usual propaganda that you hear daily when a country, a religion, a sect, a group or an individual is targated. I do not have enough knowledge about either faith to enter a debate with you. But what I can say, I have known many devoted moslems and christians and they do not fit your description. There are good and desent people  whom they want to earn a living, raise a family and enjoy life. There is no denial that there are the fanatics that their behavior blemishs a faith or a cause.

        I am not defending the deplorable behavior of let’s hypothatically say 5% (75 Millions) of the total moslem population , but what about the other 1 billion and 425 millions). You are making a wrong and broad declaration.

        Peace bro…..

      5. LebOz Avatar
        LebOz

        You sound like someone straight out of the era of the crusades…..

        Your rhetoric is so full of hate, anger and I must say, fear.

        How long have you been studying Islamic scriptures / history?

        Did you manage to find anything positive in the Koran?

        Who / what were your reference points when seeking clarification, translation, historical association, definition of words, verses, chapters within the Koran? 

        I know many Muslims and their actions indicate, love for family, respect and loyalty.

        I think its you that needs to WAKE UP from the CRAP that seems to be so entrenched in your own little world.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I understand the difference in opinion and respect it, because I believe in the freedom of every individual to believe whatever they want. Thanks to this forum where we can exchange our ideas in a civilized manner. Sorry, but I won’t stop criticizing this alleged religion for the disaster it brought upon humanity. 

        2. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I understand the difference in opinion and respect it, because I believe in the freedom of every individual to believe whatever they want. Thanks to this forum where we can exchange our ideas in a civilized manner. Sorry, but I won’t stop criticizing this alleged religion for the disaster it brought upon humanity. 

    2. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Correction: This is what the prophet of Islam did and these are just doing as their supreme leader did ! killing and killing and more killing…..in the name of God, as they shout “Allahu Akbar” while killing innocent people…
      This is your religion my friend ! WAKE  UP from this CRAP  !!!!!

      1. Moe2000 Avatar
        Moe2000

         Show me where Shia Muslim beheads someone for being a Christian Jew or a Sunni, Show me one!!!

        1. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

          @yahoo-PZUP5FQOGLZX2CDKYSMHWI4YRI:disqus  First of all I’m against killing Jews Sunni’s or Christians for there faith,
          Secondly The Mahdi army only carried revenge attacks because of Wahhabi Al Qaeda blowing up innocent Shia in shopping markets and at places of worship, Thirdly I am against Sharia law that’s the only thing that i do not agree with Iran on. Hanging someone for having a drink or  adultery i do not agree with. And if someone chooses to leave Islam that is his choice Allah will judge him not fellow man. I am against man judging fellow man i prefer to leave it to Allah.

      2. bs244846 Avatar
        bs244846

        i believe each is free to believe in whatever he wants….i do not believe shi3as kill for the sake of killing…shi3as like christians in the middle east have been persecuted by sunnas….i believe anyone persecuted as a minority has the right to defend himself….the day any belief denies you the right in believing in what you want or considers you inferior just because you have another belief then this belief should be fought against….i am a christian and i dontt want anybody to impose upon me any belief like i do not impose my belief on anyone else and consider all humans equal regardless of their belief…but sunna islam does not see it like that…hence all minorities in middle east should ally against this gorilla represented by saoudi arabia…and foremost stop allowing america abuse of sunna blind fanatism and barbarism to produce wars between religions in middle east….hence my appeal to all sunnas to have a look of moderation into their belief and refrain from blindly following saoudi arabia…the head of the snake

      3. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        You are telling us the religion of islam is the only religion that has done killing and christianity is all about peace, where do I start, what about the crusaders, US wars in Korea, vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, WWI, WWII, Bosnia, Kosovo, British and French empires, …..Now you are going to tell me moslems had something to do with that.

        Let’s say we all have blood on our hands and noone is innocent.

      4. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        What you have stated below is the usual propaganda that you hear daily when a country, a religion, a sect, a group or an individual is targated. I do not have enough knowledge about either faith to enter a debate with you. But what I can say, I have known many devoted moslems and christians and they do not fit your description. There are good and desent people  whom they want to earn a living, raise a family and enjoy life. There is no denial that there are the fanatics that their behavior blemishs a faith or a cause.

        I am not defending the deplorable behavior of let’s hypothatically say 5% (75 Millions) of the total moslem population , but what about the other 1 billion and 425 millions). You are making a wrong and broad declaration.

        Peace bro…..

  2. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    This is what Wahhabi’s do!!

    1. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Correction: This is what the prophet of Islam did and these are just doing as their supreme leader did ! killing and killing and more killing…..in the name of God, as they shout “Allahu Akbar” while killing innocent people…
      This is your religion my friend ! WAKE  UP from this CRAP  !!!!!

      1. Moe2000 Avatar
        Moe2000

         Show me where Shia Muslim beheads someone for being a Christian Jew or a Sunni, Show me one!!!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I agree Moe … and bullets ARE much more humane.
          Although, I’m not sure I could say the same about bombs ….

        2. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
          Omeriko Omeriko

          I’m totally against such killings of innocent people, Shiites or others and I’m sad for their suffering. But what you are saying is pure rubbish. Iranian are those who masterminded the bombing of the Jewish community building in Argentina in which dozens were killed just because they were Jews – Not even Israelis!!! Why the hell did Iran bomb a Jewish center in far Argentina? 

          Shell I remind you Muktada a Sadr in Iraq? 

          Shell I remind you stoning or hanging people on cranes in the streets of Iran for some religious offences?

          Shell I remind you late PM Rafik al Hariri, rest in peace, that was murdered with many others, probably by Hizbullah? So Shiites don’t behead, they just bomb. What a relief… 

        3. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

          @yahoo-PZUP5FQOGLZX2CDKYSMHWI4YRI:disqus  First of all i against killing Jews Sunni’s or Christians for there faith,
          Secondly The Mahdi army only carried revenge attacks because of Wahhabi Al Qaeda blowing up innocent Shia in shopping markets and at places of worship, Thirdly I am against Sharia law that’s the only thing that i do not agree with Iran on. Hanging someone for having a drink or  adultery i do not agree with. And if someone chooses to leave Islam that is his choice Allah will judge him not fellow man. I am against man judging fellow man i prefer to leave it to Allah.

        4. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

           @yahoo-PZUP5FQOGLZX2CDKYSMHWI4YRI:disqus  If it was the Hezib or Iran that did the bombing in Argentina i cant tell you. Just take into consideration at the time Iran had the revolution and Hezbollah had just been founded and where still a loose rag tag group very different from today.

      2. bs244846 Avatar
        bs244846

        i believe each is free to believe in whatever he wants….i do not believe shi3as kill for the sake of killing…shi3as like christians in the middle east have been persecuted by sunnas….i believe anyone persecuted as a minority has the right to defend himself….the day any belief denies you the right in believing in what you want or considers you inferior just because you have another belief then this belief should be fought against….i am a christian and i dontt want anybody to impose upon me any belief like i do not impose my belief on anyone else and consider all humans equal regardless of their belief…but sunna islam does not see it like that…hence all minorities in middle east should ally against this gorilla represented by saoudi arabia…and foremost stop allowing america abuse of sunna blind fanatism and barbarism to produce wars between religions in middle east….hence my appeal to all sunnas to have a look of moderation into their belief and refrain from blindly following saoudi arabia…the head of the snake

      3. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        You are telling us the religion of islam is only done the killing and christianity is all about peace, where do I start, the crusaders, wars in Korea, vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, WWI, WWII, Bosenia, Kosovo, Brits and French during their  empires, …..

        Let’s say we all have blood on our hands and noone is innocent.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I never said Christians do not kill or do not make war against others. Actually some of the biggest criminals in the world and in history are Christians: Examples: Hitler, Stalin (he was atheist but born christian), Napoleon, etc….and locally Geagea and Aoun, etc…
          All the wars you mentioned above were politically motivated, not religiously, except for the Crusades war which were religiously motivated because Islam’s purpose is eliminate all other religions, including Christianity and impose Islam on all people on earth, so the Crusades were to protect the holy land from being completely Islamized. In any case, all the wars initiated by these Christians, including the Crusades, were never inspired by the Bible or by the teachings of Jesus Christ, because in the Bible Jesus said: “LOVE YOUR ENNEMIES, BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE YOU”, “HE WHO LIVES BY THE SWORD DIES BY THE SWORD”.

          However, in the Kuran the “God” of Islam said to Mohammed: “Kill everyone who does not believe in Allah and his prophet”, the Killing in Islam is Religiously motivated. Muslims are promised paradise if they commit the JIHAD, remember!

          Killing in Islam is a DECREE from God (the Islam’s God). For this reason, any religion that intices its followers to kill others who do not believe in it, it is impossible that this religion is from GOD. Yes, Mohammad killed thousands, and caused muslims to kill hundreds of thousands within the last 1400+ years, ALL by DECREE from God.

          Yes, Christianity is all about peace, Jesus Christ is the ultimate peace and love and sacrifice, but Christians not all of them follow these teachings, these teachings are too perfect for us human sinners: How could we love our ennemies ? Only God would want all his children to love each other no matter what.

          Read the life of Mohammad, what do you see in it: Killing, Sex, Fornication, Rape, Theaft (legalized by God), Racism, and all sorts of weird teachings (Breastfeeding of adults, fornicating with a dead wife, marrying little girls, etc….).

          Islam my friend is a “FADIHA”  (an embarassment in English) simply put. Any simple regular muslim man has more conscience, wisdom, self respect and pitty in his heart than Mohammad and the God of Islam. Would you kill someone if he does not want to become Muslim ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did. Would you marry a six years old girl or marry your daughter at 6 for a 55 years old man ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did. Would you kill someone who changes his religion from Islam to any other religion ? I don’t think so, Muhammad did and asked his followers to kill every one who changes his religion (that is from Islam to any other religion).

          THIS IS ISLAM AND MOHAMMAD my friend. Wake up from the 1400+ years of brainwashing. All muslims these days are lucky that we are in the information technology revolution, anything you want to know you can know it by the push of a button. Take advantage of this technology and discover Islam for its truth from the the islamic sources themselves, and then use your brain that GOD gave you to use and distinguish between GOOD and BAD, RIGHT and WRONG.

          Goof Luck! Your comment Slick turned me on and could not stop typing….

      4. slick101 Avatar
        slick101

        What you have stated below is the usual propaganda that you hear daily when a country, a religion, a sect, a group or an individual is targated. I do not have enough knowledge about either faith to enter a debate with you. But what I can say, I have known many devoted moslems and christians and they do not fit your description. There are good and desent people  whom they want to earn a living, raise a family and enjoy life. There is no denial that there are the fanatics that their behavior blemishs a faith or a cause.

        I am not defending the deplorable behavior of let’s hypothatically say 5% (75 Millions) of the total moslem population , but what about the other 1 billion and 425 millions). You are making a wrong and broad declaration.

        Peace bro…..

      5. LebOz Avatar
        LebOz

        You sound like someone straight out of the era of the crusades…..

        Your rhetoric is so full of hate, anger and I must say, fear.

        How long have you been studying Islamic scriptures / history?

        Did you manage to find anything positive in the Koran?

        Who / what were your reference points when seeking clarification, translation, historical association, definition of words, verses, chapters within the Koran? 

        I know many Muslims and their actions indicate, love for family, respect and loyalty.

        I think its you that needs to WAKE UP from the CRAP that seems to be so entrenched in your own little world.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I understand the difference in opinion and respect it, because I believe in the freedom of every individual to believe whatever they want. Thanks to this forum where we can exchange our ideas in a civilized manner. Sorry, but I won’t stop criticizing this alleged religion for the disaster it brought upon humanity. 

  3. Yefim_Feldman Avatar
    Yefim_Feldman

    Islam  a  religion  of  peace  by  firing  squad.

    1. bs244846 Avatar
      bs244846

      i think it is wrong to say islam….you need to specify which type of islam….sunnah who are aysha followers,reviewing who is aysha she was just a criminal who killed prophet mohammad. sunnahs believe in jihad that is fight for sharia law which is nothing but an agglomerate of cultural laws, frequently barbaric, inspired by ahadith of the prophets companions, many of which have been distorted as well as from ahadith of aysha which were obviously more applicable to a whorehouse than anything else….then you have the followers of Ali whether they be alawis or shi3as, these believe in ijtihad namely to struggle for the better; they also believe that scripts are changeable ie modifiable, nothing mounzal……just to give you a simple comparaison: look at irans technological evolution compared to saoudis arrieration….in saoudi arabia they still clean their behind with stones; i agree this could be due to cultural differences: persians versus arabs, but isnt it that saoudis culture emanates from sunnism or rather ayshism?…allah wa akbar wal 3izzatou lil jarab

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ah yes BS .. so many variations on a theme. The problem with all religions, and between them all.
        The variations of mankind – which has prophecies we often work at trying to make come true.

        1. bs244846 Avatar
          bs244846

          same applies to the religion called atheism….some are atheistic others agnostic……they have a common belief…kill those who believe in a god

        2. saoudiAhbal Avatar
          saoudiAhbal

          well me believe it is a good job the CIA succceeded in by convincing people it is prophecy; i do not believe in prophecy, i do not believe God writes books whether prophecy or history or futuristic; i leave this to maggie farah. I even doubt sometimes if certain seisms like the japanese ones last year are not provoked by CIA

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ah yes BS .. so many variations on a theme. The problem with all religions, and between them all.
        The variations of mankind – which has prophecies we often work at trying to make come true.

        1. bs244846 Avatar
          bs244846

          same applies to the religion called atheism….some are atheistic others agnostic……they have a common belief…kill those who believe in a god

      3. Yefim_Feldman Avatar
        Yefim_Feldman

        Yes I’am reddiculing islam,because other muslims, who know better, should be confronting the idiots in their midst, but that never seems to happen.

        1. saoudiAhbal Avatar
          saoudiAhbal

          i see you are very fluent in hebrew aka an offshoot of aramaic however your english is a bit less: weren’t you the one mocking lebanese for education?

        2. saoudiAhbal Avatar
          saoudiAhbal

          i see you are very fluent in hebrew aka an offshoot of aramaic however your english is a bit less: weren’t you the one mocking lebanese for education?

  4. Yefim_Feldman Avatar
    Yefim_Feldman

    Islam  a  religion  of  peace  by  firing  squad.

    1. bs244846 Avatar
      bs244846

      i think it is wrong to say islam….you need to specify which type of islam….sunnah who are aysha followers,reviewing who is aysha she was just a criminal who killed prophet of mohammad. sunnahs believe in jihad that is fight for sharia law which is nothing but cultural laws, frequently barbaric, inspired by ahadith of the prophets companions, many of which have been distorted as well as from ahadith of aysha which were obviously more applicable to a whorehouse than anything else….then you have the followers of Ali whether they be alawis or shi3as, these believe in ijtihad namely to struggle for the better; they also believe that scripts are changeable ie modifiable, nothing mounzal……just to give you a simple comparaison: look at irans technological evolution compared to saoudis arrieration….in saoudi arabia they still clean their behind with stones; i agree this could be due to cultural differences: persians versus arabs, but isnt it tht saoudis culture emanates from sunnism or rather ayshism?…allah wa akbar wal 3izzatou lil jarab

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ah yes .. so many variations on a theme. The problem with all religions, and between them all.
        The variations of mankind.

        1. bs244846 Avatar
          bs244846

          same applies to the religion called atheism….some are atheistic others agnostic……they have a common belief…kill those who believe in a god

        2. saoudiAhbal Avatar
          saoudiAhbal

          well me believe it is a good job the CIA succceeded in by convincing people it is prophecy; i do not believe in prophecy, i do not believe God writes books whether prophecy or history or futuristic; i leave this to maggie farah. I even doubt sometimes if certain seisms like the japanese ones last year are not provoked by CIA

      2. Yefim_Feldman Avatar
        Yefim_Feldman

        Yes I’am reddiculing islam,because other muslims, who know better, should be confronting the idiots in their midst, but that never seems to happen.

        1. saoudiAhbal Avatar
          saoudiAhbal

          i see you are very fluent in hebrew aka an offshoot of aramaic however your english is a bit less: weren’t you the one mocking lebanese for education?

  5. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    Today 70 dead mainly Shia targets 8/16/2012 Iraqi Al Qaeda receiving money from Syria Reuters.

     In the worst of the blasts that erupted in the
    morning and ended in the evening, at least 27 people were killed when a
    car bomb exploded outside a cafe in Baghdad’s Zafraniya district as
    Iraqis took to the streets to end daily fasting for the Muslim holy
    month of Ramadan.Shortly before
    the Zafraniya blast, another bomb tore into a busy intersection outside a
    popular ice cream store in the mainly Shi’ite district of Sadr City,
    killing 16 and wounding 40 more, police and hospital officials said.”I
    was sitting in the cafe when I felt a huge spark like electricity in my
    eyes, and a huge explosion. After that I woke up in hospital with
    injuries to my arms and shrapnel in my back,” said Amjad Saad, 23, a
    college student.No group claimed
    responsibility for Thursday’s bombings and shootings, but a local al
    Qaeda affiliate and other Sunni Islamist groups have carried out at
    least one major assault a month since the last American troops left in
    December.Al Qaeda’s local wing,
    the Islamic State of Iraq, says it has begun a new offensive against
    mainly Shi’ite targets, and security experts say it has benefited from
    cash and morale thanks to the inflow of fighters into neighboring Syria.Security
    had been tightened in Baghdad ahead of the end of Ramadan next week, a
    period when analysts had said they believed insurgents may attempt a
    major coordinated attack.Earlier
    in the day, a car bomb killed six civilians and wounded 28 in the mainly
    Shi’ite Baghdad district of Husainiya, police and hospital sources
    said. Just north of the capital, in Taji, another car bomb killed one
    and wounded nine more people.Another
    six police and army soldiers were killed by gunmen who opened fire on
    their checkpoint from two speeding cars in the north of the capital,
    police said.Four car bombs
    exploded in the city of Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad,
    killing two people and wounded 18, police and hospital sources said.Kirkuk,
    which sits on massive oil reserves, is at the heart of a dispute
    between Baghdad’s central government and the country’s autonomous
    Kurdistan region, both of which claim the city as part of their area of
    territorial control.Overnight
    attacks on police checkpoints in the cities of Baquba and Falluja killed
    six policemen and wounded 13, police and hospital sources said. More
    attacks and smaller bombings hit several other towns across Iraq.Sunni
    Muslim insurgents have launched a string of attacks on Shi’ite targets
    to try to reignite the sectarian violence that killed tens of thousands
    of people in 2006-2007 and to undermine the country’s Shi’ite-led
    government.The Islamic State of
    Iraq insurgents have also said their suicide bombers attacked a
    counter-terrorism unit in Baghdad earlier in August to try to free
    prisoners held there. Police managed to fend off the attack and kill the
    attackers.Iraq’s security forces
    are generally seen as capable of containing the insurgents, but a
    crisis among Shi’ite, Sunni and Kurdish factions is fueling sectarian
    tensions and paralyzing their power-sharing government.(Additional
    reporting by Raheem Salman in Baghdad, Mustafa Mahmoud in Kirkuk, Jamal
    al-Badrani in Mosul, Fadhil al-Badrani in Falluja and Ali Mohammed in
    Baquba; Writing by Patrick Markey and Barry Malone; Editing by Alison
    Williams and Will Dunham)

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      5thDrawer

      Yup. More idiots.

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    Moe2000

    Today 70 dead mainly Shia targets 8/16/2012 Iraqi Al Qaeda receiving money from Syria Reuters.

     In the worst of the blasts that erupted in the
    morning and ended in the evening, at least 27 people were killed when a
    car bomb exploded outside a cafe in Baghdad’s Zafraniya district as
    Iraqis took to the streets to end daily fasting for the Muslim holy
    month of Ramadan.Shortly before
    the Zafraniya blast, another bomb tore into a busy intersection outside a
    popular ice cream store in the mainly Shi’ite district of Sadr City,
    killing 16 and wounding 40 more, police and hospital officials said.”I
    was sitting in the cafe when I felt a huge spark like electricity in my
    eyes, and a huge explosion. After that I woke up in hospital with
    injuries to my arms and shrapnel in my back,” said Amjad Saad, 23, a
    college student.No group claimed
    responsibility for Thursday’s bombings and shootings, but a local al
    Qaeda affiliate and other Sunni Islamist groups have carried out at
    least one major assault a month since the last American troops left in
    December.Al Qaeda’s local wing,
    the Islamic State of Iraq, says it has begun a new offensive against
    mainly Shi’ite targets, and security experts say it has benefited from
    cash and morale thanks to the inflow of fighters into neighboring Syria.Security
    had been tightened in Baghdad ahead of the end of Ramadan next week, a
    period when analysts had said they believed insurgents may attempt a
    major coordinated attack.Earlier
    in the day, a car bomb killed six civilians and wounded 28 in the mainly
    Shi’ite Baghdad district of Husainiya, police and hospital sources
    said. Just north of the capital, in Taji, another car bomb killed one
    and wounded nine more people.Another
    six police and army soldiers were killed by gunmen who opened fire on
    their checkpoint from two speeding cars in the north of the capital,
    police said.Four car bombs
    exploded in the city of Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad,
    killing two people and wounded 18, police and hospital sources said.Kirkuk,
    which sits on massive oil reserves, is at the heart of a dispute
    between Baghdad’s central government and the country’s autonomous
    Kurdistan region, both of which claim the city as part of their area of
    territorial control.Overnight
    attacks on police checkpoints in the cities of Baquba and Falluja killed
    six policemen and wounded 13, police and hospital sources said. More
    attacks and smaller bombings hit several other towns across Iraq.Sunni
    Muslim insurgents have launched a string of attacks on Shi’ite targets
    to try to reignite the sectarian violence that killed tens of thousands
    of people in 2006-2007 and to undermine the country’s Shi’ite-led
    government.The Islamic State of
    Iraq insurgents have also said their suicide bombers attacked a
    counter-terrorism unit in Baghdad earlier in August to try to free
    prisoners held there. Police managed to fend off the attack and kill the
    attackers.Iraq’s security forces
    are generally seen as capable of containing the insurgents, but a
    crisis among Shi’ite, Sunni and Kurdish factions is fueling sectarian
    tensions and paralyzing their power-sharing government.(Additional
    reporting by Raheem Salman in Baghdad, Mustafa Mahmoud in Kirkuk, Jamal
    al-Badrani in Mosul, Fadhil al-Badrani in Falluja and Ali Mohammed in
    Baquba; Writing by Patrick Markey and Barry Malone; Editing by Alison
    Williams and Will Dunham)

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      5thDrawer

      Yup. More idiots.

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    Moe2000

    Today 70 dead mainly Shia targets 8/16/2012 Iraqi Al Qaeda receiving money from Syria Reuters.

     In the worst of the blasts that erupted in the
    morning and ended in the evening, at least 27 people were killed when a
    car bomb exploded outside a cafe in Baghdad’s Zafraniya district as
    Iraqis took to the streets to end daily fasting for the Muslim holy
    month of Ramadan.Shortly before
    the Zafraniya blast, another bomb tore into a busy intersection outside a
    popular ice cream store in the mainly Shi’ite district of Sadr City,
    killing 16 and wounding 40 more, police and hospital officials said.”I
    was sitting in the cafe when I felt a huge spark like electricity in my
    eyes, and a huge explosion. After that I woke up in hospital with
    injuries to my arms and shrapnel in my back,” said Amjad Saad, 23, a
    college student.No group claimed
    responsibility for Thursday’s bombings and shootings, but a local al
    Qaeda affiliate and other Sunni Islamist groups have carried out at
    least one major assault a month since the last American troops left in
    December.Al Qaeda’s local wing,
    the Islamic State of Iraq, says it has begun a new offensive against
    mainly Shi’ite targets, and security experts say it has benefited from
    cash and morale thanks to the inflow of fighters into neighboring Syria.Security
    had been tightened in Baghdad ahead of the end of Ramadan next week, a
    period when analysts had said they believed insurgents may attempt a
    major coordinated attack.Earlier
    in the day, a car bomb killed six civilians and wounded 28 in the mainly
    Shi’ite Baghdad district of Husainiya, police and hospital sources
    said. Just north of the capital, in Taji, another car bomb killed one
    and wounded nine more people.Another
    six police and army soldiers were killed by gunmen who opened fire on
    their checkpoint from two speeding cars in the north of the capital,
    police said.Four car bombs
    exploded in the city of Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad,
    killing two people and wounded 18, police and hospital sources said.Kirkuk,
    which sits on massive oil reserves, is at the heart of a dispute
    between Baghdad’s central government and the country’s autonomous
    Kurdistan region, both of which claim the city as part of their area of
    territorial control.Overnight
    attacks on police checkpoints in the cities of Baquba and Falluja killed
    six policemen and wounded 13, police and hospital sources said. More
    attacks and smaller bombings hit several other towns across Iraq.Sunni
    Muslim insurgents have launched a string of attacks on Shi’ite targets
    to try to reignite the sectarian violence that killed tens of thousands
    of people in 2006-2007 and to undermine the country’s Shi’ite-led
    government.The Islamic State of
    Iraq insurgents have also said their suicide bombers attacked a
    counter-terrorism unit in Baghdad earlier in August to try to free
    prisoners held there. Police managed to fend off the attack and kill the
    attackers.Iraq’s security forces
    are generally seen as capable of containing the insurgents, but a
    crisis among Shi’ite, Sunni and Kurdish factions is fueling sectarian
    tensions and paralyzing their power-sharing government.(Additional
    reporting by Raheem Salman in Baghdad, Mustafa Mahmoud in Kirkuk, Jamal
    al-Badrani in Mosul, Fadhil al-Badrani in Falluja and Ali Mohammed in
    Baquba; Writing by Patrick Markey and Barry Malone; Editing by Alison
    Williams and Will Dunham)

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      5thDrawer

      Yup. More idiots.

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    5thDrawer

    Trying to get away from the silly debates on which religion has committed the worst crimes in history, or continues to do so, we need to consider the remarkable and growing spread of theoretical thought between those who ‘quest’ for knowledge (answers) all their lives, and those who simply go with a flow of ignorance stuck in their heads at about age 20.
    For those of us who try, perhaps impossibly, to keep up with things … a ‘new’ religion is forming in free minds. And someone has finally put out a book which may answer most of the questions of ‘why’ there is life – and how life makes a universe.
    Biocentrism:  I’m going to get my hands on it soon as possible – although I won’t be turning the author into a God if I agree with the theories.
    ————
    Here’s some quotes on the reviews:

    Every now and then, a simple yet radical idea shakes the very foundations of knowledge. The startling discovery that the world was not flat challenged and ultimately changed the way people perceived themselves and their relationships with the world. “If the earth were really round,” it was argued, “Then the people at the bottom would fall off.” For most humans of the 15th century, the notion of Earth as ball of rock was nonsense. The whole of Western natural philosophy is undergoing a sea change again, forced upon us by the experimental findings of quantum theory. At the same time, these findings have increased our doubt and uncertainty about traditional physical explanations of the universe’s genesis and structure.

    Biocentrism completes this shift in worldview, turning the planet upside down again with the revolutionary view that life creates the universe instead of the other way around. In this new paradigm, life is not just an accidental byproduct of the laws of physics.

    Biocentrism takes the reader on a seemingly improbable but ultimately inescapable journey through a foreign universe—our own—from the viewpoints of an acclaimed biologist and a leading astronomer. Switching perspective from physics to biology unlocks the cages in which Western science has unwittingly managed to confine itself. Biocentrism shatters the reader’s ideas of life, time and space, and even death. At the same time, it releases us from the dull worldview that life is merely the activity of an admixture of carbon and a few other elements; it suggests the exhilarating possibility that life is fundamentally immortal.

    Biocentrism awakens in readers a new sense of possibility and is full of so many shocking new perspectives that the reader will never see reality the same way again.

    “It is genuinely an exciting piece of work…. The idea that consciousness creates reality has quantum support … and also coheres with some of the things biology and neuroscience are telling us about the structures of our being. Just as we now know that the sun doesn’t really move but we do (we are the active agents), so [it is] suggesting that we are the entities that give meaning to the particular configuration of all possible outcomes we call reality.” —Ronald Green, director of Dartmouth College’s Ethics Institute

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    5thDrawer

    Trying to get away from the silly debates on which religion has committed the worst crimes in history, or continues to do so, we need to consider the remarkable and growing spread of theoretical thought between those who ‘quest’ for knowledge (answers) all their lives, and those who simply go with a flow of ignorance stuck in their heads at about age 20.
    For those of us who try, perhaps impossibly, to keep up with things … a ‘new’ religion is forming in free minds. And someone has finally put out a book which may answer most of the questions of ‘why’ there is life – and how life makes a universe.
    Biocentrism:  I’m going to get my hands on it soon as possible – although I won’t be turning the author into a God if I agree with the theories.
    ————
    Here’s some quotes on the reviews:

    Every now and then, a simple yet radical idea shakes the very foundations of knowledge. The startling discovery that the world was not flat challenged and ultimately changed the way people perceived themselves and their relationships with the world. “If the earth were really round,” it was argued, “Then the people at the bottom would fall off.” For most humans of the 15th century, the notion of Earth as ball of rock was nonsense. The whole of Western natural philosophy is undergoing a sea change again, forced upon us by the experimental findings of quantum theory. At the same time, these findings have increased our doubt and uncertainty about traditional physical explanations of the universe’s genesis and structure.

    Biocentrism completes this shift in worldview, turning the planet upside down again with the revolutionary view that life creates the universe instead of the other way around. In this new paradigm, life is not just an accidental byproduct of the laws of physics.

    Biocentrism takes the reader on a seemingly improbable but ultimately inescapable journey through a foreign universe—our own—from the viewpoints of an acclaimed biologist and a leading astronomer. Switching perspective from physics to biology unlocks the cages in which Western science has unwittingly managed to confine itself. Biocentrism shatters the reader’s ideas of life, time and space, and even death. At the same time, it releases us from the dull worldview that life is merely the activity of an admixture of carbon and a few other elements; it suggests the exhilarating possibility that life is fundamentally immortal.

    Biocentrism awakens in readers a new sense of possibility and is full of so many shocking new perspectives that the reader will never see reality the same way again.

    “It is genuinely an exciting piece of work…. The idea that consciousness creates reality has quantum support … and also coheres with some of the things biology and neuroscience are telling us about the structures of our being. Just as we now know that the sun doesn’t really move but we do (we are the active agents), so [it is] suggesting that we are the entities that give meaning to the particular configuration of all possible outcomes we call reality.” —Ronald Green, director of Dartmouth College’s Ethics Institute

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