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Former Free Patriotic Movement MP Salim Aoun on Monday denied a media report published in Al-Liwaa newspaper which revealed that he visited Syria and met with officials.

According to the report Aoun brought a message from the Syrian officials to Change and Reform bloc leader MP Michel Aoun in which they asked him to “ease the tension with Hezbollah and Speaker Nabih Berri.”

“The news is completely unfounded,” a statement issued by Salim Aoun’s office read.

The statement also “challenged ” Al-Liwaa newspaper to prove that he visited Damascus.

This comes after Change and Reform MPs have been collaborating with Lebanese Forces, and Phalange MPs in opposing Speaker Nabih Berri over his draft law that calls for changing in status of the striking part-time EDL employees . The striking employees want their employment contracts to be changed from part-time to full time.

MP Michel Aoun and Berri are closely allied with the Iranian and Syrian-backed Hezbollah militant Group

According to local reports 1700 of the 2300 part-time employees are reportedly Shiites while only few hundred are Christians and the balance are Sunnis. This is reportedly a major concern for Aoun, since according to Taef accord Half of the full-time employees should be Christians while the other half should be divided between the Sunnis, Shiites and the Druze.

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64 responses to “Aoun denies visiting Syria”

  1. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Welll …  Just ask Assad.

  2. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Welll …  Just ask Assad.

  3. Mazen_M Avatar
    Mazen_M

    The following statement shows the big problem that we face in Lebanon: “since according to Taef accord Half of the full-time employees should be Christians while the other half should be divided between the Sunnis, Shiites and the Druze”.

    Who cares what religion they are!!!!? This is really ridiculous……

    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      Yes your rite, But when certain groups hold guns to heads, bash government workers who come to collect money in the south for bills owing, than we know who will get the jobs don,t we…Gun is a powerful tool and can make people not apply for jobs open to all the LEBANESE…… 

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        Wow…where do you get this stuff from

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          The same place you get the stuff from…lol

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          hehehehehehehehehehehehe

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        dam man the people of the south must be responsible for everything wrong in lebanon…why dont we just cut lebanon in half then everyone will have a free liberating society with no electricity problems and no security issues and all will have work and prosper and all will be able to drink fanta again because they will handle the orange colour again???? come on master talk to me man im sure if a government employee was ever bashed for collecting bills it would be splashed all over the news especially this paper?????

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Bassil: Dahiyeh residents preventing electric repairs
          July 7, 2012 ⋅ 8:45 am ⋅ Post a comment
          Filed Under  blackouts, Hezbollah, Iran, Lebanon, Syria
          Energy Minister Gebran Bassil told Al-Jadeed television on Friday that some parties were preventing the repair of electrical malfunctions in Dahiyeh.“ On Thursday , a team of Electricité Du Liban (EDL) technicians went to Beirut’s southern suburb of Dahiyeh to fix a malfunction. They were threatened and prevented from repairing the malfunction,” Bassil saidDahiyeh is Hezbollah’s stronghold. According to local reports Hezbollah supporters do not pay their electric bills and when bill collectors show up in their area they get threatened and beaten up.Bassil is a member of the Free Patriotic Movement which is headed by his father-in-law MP Michel Aoun, a close ally of HezbollahBassil also commented on power blackouts in most Lebanese areas and said there were no funds available to purchase power from Syria. Iran, which is reportedly supplying Syria 100 MW of power from the Iraqi grid , asked Lebanon to purchase some of this power from Syria.

          IS THIS REAL NEWS FOR YOU OR ARE THEY ALL TALKING SHIT…WHERE DO YOU GET IT WHERE…LOL

          So tell me who runs the country.. is this news enough for you…….this is from your ORANGE freinds.. I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY F…KN groups or malitias in LEBANON. THEY ARE ALL SUCKING SOMEONES COK…..AND THEIR POCKETS GET FILLED WHILE THE LEBANESE SUFFER LIKE THEY DID IN 2006 WHEN HA SAID IRAN WILL PAY FOR THE DAMAGES AND THAN PUT A GUN TO THE GOVERNMENTS HEAD FOR 15BILLION DOLLARS, WHERE PEOPLE WHERE GIVEN THREE TIMES MORE THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE GOT BECAUSE HA SAID SO….WAKE UP DUDE STOP BEEN THE SHEEP……DO YOU THINK I GET THIS MY MY BEHIND LIKE SOME PEOPLE DO…

    2. dateam Avatar
      dateam

      let all the workers sit the tests and take the required numbers based on results…its simple…everones playing the election game thats why nothing gets done

  4. Mazen_M Avatar
    Mazen_M

    The following statement shows the big problem that we face in Lebanon: “since according to Taef accord Half of the full-time employees should be Christians while the other half should be divided between the Sunnis, Shiites and the Druze”.

    Who cares what religion they are!!!!? This is really ridiculous……

    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      Yes your rite, But when certain groups hold guns to heads, bash government workers who come to collect money in the south for bills owing, than we know who will get the jobs don,t we…Gun is a powerful tool and can make people not apply for jobs open to all the LEBANESE…… 

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        Wow…where do you get this stuff from

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          hehehehehehehehehehehehe

  5. Mazen_M Avatar
    Mazen_M

    The following statement shows the big problem that we face in Lebanon: “since according to Taef accord Half of the full-time employees should be Christians while the other half should be divided between the Sunnis, Shiites and the Druze”.

    Who cares what religion they are!!!!? This is really ridiculous……

    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      Yes your rite, But when certain groups hold guns to heads, bash government workers who come to collect money in the south for bills owing, than we know who will get the jobs don,t we…Gun is a powerful tool and can make people not apply for jobs open to all the LEBANESE…… 

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        Wow…where do you get this stuff from

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          The same place you get the stuff from…lol

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          hehehehehehehehehehehehe

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        dam man the people of the south must be responsible for everything wrong in lebanon…why dont we just cut lebanon in half then everyone will have a free liberating society with no electricity problems and no security issues and all will have work and prosper and all will be able to drink fanta again because they will handle the orange colour again???? come on master talk to me man im sure if a government employee was ever bashed for collecting bills it would be splashed all over the news especially this paper?????

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Bassil: Dahiyeh residents preventing electric repairs
          July 7, 2012 ⋅ 8:45 am ⋅ Post a comment
          Filed Under  blackouts, Hezbollah, Iran, Lebanon, Syria
          Energy Minister Gebran Bassil told Al-Jadeed television on Friday that some parties were preventing the repair of electrical malfunctions in Dahiyeh.“ On Thursday , a team of Electricité Du Liban (EDL) technicians went to Beirut’s southern suburb of Dahiyeh to fix a malfunction. They were threatened and prevented from repairing the malfunction,” Bassil saidDahiyeh is Hezbollah’s stronghold. According to local reports Hezbollah supporters do not pay their electric bills and when bill collectors show up in their area they get threatened and beaten up.Bassil is a member of the Free Patriotic Movement which is headed by his father-in-law MP Michel Aoun, a close ally of HezbollahBassil also commented on power blackouts in most Lebanese areas and said there were no funds available to purchase power from Syria. Iran, which is reportedly supplying Syria 100 MW of power from the Iraqi grid , asked Lebanon to purchase some of this power from Syria.

          IS THIS REAL NEWS FOR YOU OR ARE THEY ALL TALKING SHIT…WHERE DO YOU GET IT WHERE…LOL

          So tell me who runs the country.. is this news enough for you…….this is from your ORANGE freinds.. I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY F…KN groups or malitias in LEBANON. THEY ARE ALL SUCKING SOMEONES COK…..AND THEIR POCKETS GET FILLED WHILE THE LEBANESE SUFFER LIKE THEY DID IN 2006 WHEN HA SAID IRAN WILL PAY FOR THE DAMAGES AND THAN PUT A GUN TO THE GOVERNMENTS HEAD FOR 15BILLION DOLLARS, WHERE PEOPLE WHERE GIVEN THREE TIMES MORE THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE GOT BECAUSE HA SAID SO….WAKE UP DUDE STOP BEEN THE SHEEP……DO YOU THINK I GET THIS MY MY BEHIND LIKE SOME PEOPLE DO…

    2. dateam Avatar
      dateam

      let all the workers sit the tests and take the required numbers based on results…its simple…everones playing the election game thats why nothing gets done

  6. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    Today Israel threatened to attack Lebanon over the Hatzbani River… While villages in south Lebanon today ration water for a week at a time in the summer, We cannot divert water from our own river to provide water services to our country….While you take a shower in Beirut in salt water Israel will bomb if we use our fresh water….. You people can google it and see the article on the Jerusalem post and see the Zionist comments…. How they should annex half of Lebanon and take all our water….And bomb us to the stone age….

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      I thought it was the Stone Age, Moe …. 😉
      And yes, too many people sucking the water supply everywhere ….

    2. master09 Avatar
      master09

      Wow…where do you get this stuff from, The everything is Isreal fault site…and how to blame everything on Isreal site..
      and Isreal will attack Lebanon.
      Moe please show me facts thats Isreal invaded and attacked Lebanon for NO REASON at all. Tell me if you are a man and can see the facts, not what you get feed, Why did ISREAL INVADE LEBANON IN THE PAST……years…. FACTS….
      On 18 June 2008, Israel declared that it was open to peace talks with Lebanon.[12] But some do not ever want peace..

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        its in the daily star as well i read it….tell israel to take back the palestinians…stop taking our water…stop its illegal overflights….respect our soverignty….withdraw from remaining lands….they can build all the walls they want on their side….allow our army to patrol our borders with proper weapons like they do not water pistols like the egyptians and jordanians….stop spying on us and yes lets talk peace…that way hzb wont need to exist and i guess everyone will be happy…true?

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Ok datam, lets put it in term you mite understand. They build all the walls on their side FIRST.
          They spy on us because we have a FIGHTING group, YOU KNOW LIKE A GANG, NOT A STATE, that openly state each day that the destruction of Isreal is their main aim. Second HA is not a government or a country it is the Lebanese governmet who should be talking…peace with Isreal.. Who the F…K is HA they are in a land fighting a war that the LEBANESE do not want but ONLY  their supporters…AND THEIR KIND WANT……

          Lebanon does petrol the borders and if you want proper weapons why does HA not give the ARMY some of these amazing weapons from Syria and Iran so they can use them.

          Isreal like any country has a rite to protect their people from NOT A COUNTRY BUT A GROUP WITHIN A STATE…. WOULD YOU NOT SPY ON THEM NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, BE IT BLACK OR WHITe…

          What point are you trying to Argue YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT BE IT IN USA IRAQ OR WHEREVER ,,,,,, HA IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PART, THEY ARE A FIGHTING GROUP WITHIN A COUNTRY .

          Isreal will not leave these lands because they have said it before, as LONG AS LEBANON HARBOURS MILITIA GROUPS THAT THREATEN OUR XCESTANCE WE WILL STAY WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE READY FOR PEACE ARE YOU OR ARE YOU GOING TO SAFE GAURD MALITIA GROUPS IN YOUR COUNTRY…

          HEZBALLAH IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY ISREAL DO WHAT THEY DOOOOOOOOOOOOO……
          PEACE WILL NEVER BE AS LONG AS WE HAVE GROUPS OUTSIDE THE STATE THAT THREATEN OTHER NATIONS WITH DESTRUCTION, NO MATTER WHO IT IS…
          THEY CAME INTO LEBANON WHEN PLO FIRED ROCKETS OVER, THEY CAME AFTER MARCH 12 WHEN THE PLO CAME FROM LEBANON AND KILLED 38 JEWS.
          .On March 15, three days after the massacre, Israel launched Operation Litani against PLO bases in southern Lebanon.
           From the inception of Hezbollah to the present,[9][44] the elimination of the State of Israel has been one of Hezbollah’s primary goals. Some translations of Hezbollah’s 1985 Arabic-language manifesto state that “our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated”.[9] According to Hezbollah’s Deputy-General, Na’im Qasim, the struggle against Israel is a core belief of Hezbollah and the central rationale of Hezbollah’s existence.

          Lebanon now considers the Shebaa farms—a 26-km² (10-mi²) piece of land captured by Israel from Syria in the 1967 war and considered by the UN to be disputed territory between Syria and Israel—to be Lebanese territory. THE SYRIAN SAY THEY HAVE A CLAIM ON THESE FARMS MORE THAN LEBANO, WHY DO WE NOT STAND UP TO THEM…

          You see when you are a country and you know a group like this is at your DOOR STEP WHAT THE F….. K WOULD YOU DO, MAKE THEM SANDWICHES FOR A MEETING… where are you coming from…..  Isreal is a country look it up , HA is a malitia look it up, so WHY NOT HA BEEN A GANG AND NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS WITH NO BOUNDERIES PUT DOWN THE WEAPONS AND THAN PEACE MITE COME….. PUT YOU ARE TO BRAINWASHED LIKE SHEEP TO SEE THAT SIDE OF IT……   

           
           THATS WHERE I GET THIS FROM…………

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Sounds good dateam …

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        its in the daily star as well i read it….tell israel to take back the palestinians…stop taking our water…stop its illegal overflights….respect our soverignty….withdraw from remaining lands….they can build all the walls they want on their side….allow our army to patrol our borders with proper weapons like they do not water pistols like the egyptians and jordanians….stop spying on us and yes lets talk peace…that way hzb wont need to exist and i guess everyone will be happy…true?

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Ok datam, lets put it in term you mite understand. They build all the walls on their side FIRST.
          They spy on us because we have a FIGHTING group, YOU KNOW LIKE A GANG, NOT A STATE, that openly state each day that the destruction of Isreal is their main aim. Second HA is not a government or a country it is the Lebanese governmet who should be talking…peace with Isreal.. Who the F…K is HA they are in a land fighting a war that the LEBANESE do not want but ONLY  their supporters…AND THEIR KIND WANT……

          Lebanon does petrol the borders and if you want proper weapons why does HA not give the ARMY some of these amazing weapons from Syria and Iran so they can use them.

          Isreal like any country has a rite to protect their people from NOT A COUNTRY BUT A GROUP WITHIN A STATE…. WOULD YOU NOT SPY ON THEM NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, BE IT BLACK OR WHITe…

          What point are you trying to Argue YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT BE IT IN USA IRAQ OR WHEREVER ,,,,,, HA IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PART, THEY ARE A FIGHTING GROUP WITHIN A COUNTRY .

          Isreal will not leave these lands because they have said it before, as LONG AS LEBANON HARBOURS MILITIA GROUPS THAT THREATEN OUR XCESTANCE WE WILL STAY WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE READY FOR PEACE ARE YOU OR ARE YOU GOING TO SAFE GAURD MALITIA GROUPS IN YOUR COUNTRY…

          HEZBALLAH IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY ISREAL DO WHAT THEY DOOOOOOOOOOOOO……
          PEACE WILL NEVER BE AS LONG AS WE HAVE GROUPS OUTSIDE THE STATE THAT THREATEN OTHER NATIONS WITH DESTRUCTION, NO MATTER WHO IT IS…
          THEY CAME INTO LEBANON WHEN PLO FIRED ROCKETS OVER, THEY CAME AFTER MARCH 12 WHEN THE PLO CAME FROM LEBANON AND KILLED 38 JEWS.
          .On March 15, three days after the massacre, Israel launched Operation Litani against PLO bases in southern Lebanon.
           From the inception of Hezbollah to the present,[9][44] the elimination of the State of Israel has been one of Hezbollah’s primary goals. Some translations of Hezbollah’s 1985 Arabic-language manifesto state that “our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated”.[9] According to Hezbollah’s Deputy-General, Na’im Qasim, the struggle against Israel is a core belief of Hezbollah and the central rationale of Hezbollah’s existence.

          Lebanon now considers the Shebaa farms—a 26-km² (10-mi²) piece of land captured by Israel from Syria in the 1967 war and considered by the UN to be disputed territory between Syria and Israel—to be Lebanese territory. THE SYRIAN SAY THEY HAVE A CLAIM ON THESE FARMS MORE THAN LEBANO, WHY DO WE NOT STAND UP TO THEM…

          You see when you are a country and you know a group like this is at your DOOR STEP WHAT THE F….. K WOULD YOU DO, MAKE THEM SANDWICHES FOR A MEETING… where are you coming from…..  Isreal is a country look it up , HA is a malitia look it up, so WHY NOT HA BEEN A GANG AND NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS WITH NO BOUNDERIES PUT DOWN THE WEAPONS AND THAN PEACE MITE COME….. PUT YOU ARE TO BRAINWASHED LIKE SHEEP TO SEE THAT SIDE OF IT……   

           
           THATS WHERE I GET THIS FROM…………

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Sounds good dateam …

      3. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        heres one for you 05.09.97 israeli commandos attempt to infiltrate south lebanon…hzb and lebanese army intercept…in the process 12 israeli commandoes are killed and thats from new york times…theres more if you want
        ?

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          I can,t stop lol . They where at war with HA IN 97. and Isreal where still in Lebanon . That was when they killed Hadi Nasrallah was killed , son of hassan. I know every single DATE AND EVENT IN THE ME FROM 1948 TILL 2009….. AND YOUR GIVING ME NEW YORK TIMES AND THE STAR……LOL

          For xample In 1932, the residents of Ghajar, predominantly Alawite, were given the option of choosing their nationality and overwhelmingly chose to be a part of Syria.
          Prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, Ghajar was considered part of Syria and its residents were counted in the 1960 census. Why do we not blame Syria and never did….oh why oh why

          TODAY IS THE DAY FOR PEACE NOT 1200 BC . WHAT CENTURY ARE YOU LIVING IN.. THEY WILL DO IT FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS , AS LONG AS THERE IS A GANG NOT A COUNTRY IN LEBANON CALLED HA LIKE THERE WAS PLO… DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS COME INTO LEBANON…. WAKE UP THE ROSES SMELL NICE….BAH BAH

          I AM LEBANESE BUT I CAN SEE WHY MY TEAM HAS A PROBLEM, I DO NOT BLAME THE WORLD FOR THEM…………GET ME 100 OF THEM I DO NOT SUPPORT ISREAL BUT I CAN SEE WHY LEBANON HAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE POSITION ITS IN. THIS POSITION IS ON IT,S KNEES WITH IRAN AND SYRIA BANGING THE SHIT OUT OF THE COUNTRY SO THEY CAN DESTROY ISREAL ON OUR OWN LAND…. WAKE UP …..

        2. master09 Avatar
          master09

          I can,t stop lol . They where at war with HA IN 97. and Isreal where still in Lebanon . That was when they killed Hadi Nasrallah was killed , son of hassan. I know every single DATE AND EVENT IN THE ME FROM 1948 TILL 2009….. AND YOUR GIVING ME NEW YORK TIMES AND THE STAR……LOL

          For xample In 1932, the residents of Ghajar, predominantly Alawite, were given the option of choosing their nationality and overwhelmingly chose to be a part of Syria.
          Prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, Ghajar was considered part of Syria and its residents were counted in the 1960 census. Why do we not blame Syria and never did….oh why oh why

          TODAY IS THE DAY FOR PEACE NOT 1200 BC . WHAT CENTURY ARE YOU LIVING IN.. THEY WILL DO IT FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS , AS LONG AS THERE IS A GANG NOT A COUNTRY IN LEBANON CALLED HA LIKE THERE WAS PLO… DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS COME INTO LEBANON…. WAKE UP THE ROSES SMELL NICE….BAH BAH

          I AM LEBANESE BUT I CAN SEE WHY MY TEAM HAS A PROBLEM, I DO NOT BLAME THE WORLD FOR THEM…………GET ME 100 OF THEM I DO NOT SUPPORT ISREAL BUT I CAN SEE WHY LEBANON HAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE POSITION ITS IN. THIS POSITION IS ON IT,S KNEES WITH IRAN AND SYRIA BANGING THE SHIT OUT OF THE COUNTRY SO THEY CAN DESTROY ISREAL ON OUR OWN LAND…. WAKE UP …..

      4. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        theres another article in todays daily star re hasbani river and israels threats…

      5. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        your passion is good…a little misdirected but good….im not saying im advocating anything….there is more to it than the simplicity you prescribe….until you have lived in the south and been through what they have you cannot understand it…here lies the problem…we have lived in a failed state for years….the south has always been neglected….ask yourself how hzb came to be? if it wasnt for them the palestinians would be living in southern lebanon…even the israelis admit that their invasion in 1982 was a major blunder because they achieved nothing…the people of the south copped the palestinians then the israelis….as bad as what the syrians were in the north its nothing compared to the south….everyone has their opinion however in my point the equation is simple….arm our army in a way so that the israelis think long and hard before a single plane flies over us…so it becomes inconceivable for them to touch any part of our sovereignty and i will be the first one to say hzb time is up….but till now noone has been able to come up with a way of arming our army to full strength…as a government we are not allowed to purchase defensive or ofensive weapons because the usa and israel have agreements as what sort of weapons allowed around them….i dont recall the hzb ever saying they dont want the army to be strong and i think people would be naive to think that the army is not helping the hzb…i mean seriously have you ever seen trucks driving through downtown beirut to the south loaded with missiles? you know whats even sadder is the fact that  say the hzb renounced its weapons tommorrow handed them in and cut ties with iran…the lebanese government wouldnt even be able to afford the people of the south…..bottom line israel dosen’t sign peace treaties unless it has the upper hand and its on its terms….just like with egypt and jordan…..sorry but you may have your opinion but mine is simple…. they want peace its on our terms…take back the palestinians,get out of our land…stop illegal overflites,stop spying ( are you telling me israel dosent spy on the egyptians and jordanians because they have a peace treaty???) we have our dignity as well….trust me there will be no war with iran or lebanon….if israel knew it could defeat the hzb after 2006 it would have gone in already…they prey on the weak….israel is so innocent its always the victim??? what has the hasbani got to do with the hzb? they sat in lebanon for 20 years and drained the life out of the laitani….re hzb i agree eventually they have to give them up…but the government needs to show the south what its options are to protect and serve them….for you to say that hzb gives its weapons to the army is naive….you never show nyour cards its like taking your clothes off…even the army would want them hidden….when the army becomes all it should be then hzb will cease and it can become under the control of the army command as a special unit…..is going to take another naher elbared for people to understand the importance of equipping our army just look around you as to what is happening.

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          SO what your saying is it,s your way or no way at all, Isreal must bow to the demands is that so, that is very simple but laughable.
          Second Lebanon can not be armed and has been stated before, is because
          On March 1991, parliament passed an amnesty law that pardoned all political crimes prior to its enactment. In May 1991, the militias (with the important exception of Hezbollah) were dissolved, and the Lebanese Armed Forces began to slowly rebuild themselves as Lebanon’s only major non-sectarian institution .
          The world will not ARM LEBANON BECAUSE HA IS STRONGER THAN THE LEBANESE ARMY, DO YOU SEE THE POINT OF ALL THAT, IS THAT SIMPLE FOR YOU……YOU CAN NOT ARM A COUNTRY WHEN YOU HAVE A MILITIA GROUP STRONGER THAN THE ARMY…..IMPOSSIBLE…..
          When you have a MILITIA not a government that threatens your country are YOU GOING TO SIT AND SIGN A PEACE TREATY, HA IS NOT A COUNTRY, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF…YOU CAN NOT SIGN A PEACE TREATY WITH HA…..Isreal has already said they are ready to sign a peace treaty in 2008 but you must SOLVE THE MILITIA PROBLEM THAT IS STRONGER THAN YOUR ARMY, IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU OR ARE YOU BLIND TO SEE THAT.

          Answer a ??? and you want I know, WHEN DID ISREAL INVADE LEBANON WITHOUT A REASON OR AN ATTACK ON IT,S PEOPLE AND LAND…PLEASE ANSWER THIS ??? WITH FACTS , FACTS…. THAT IS WHY THEY SPY ON JORDAN EGYPT LEBANON SYRIA BECAUSE THEY HARBOUR GROUPS THAT THREATEN THEIR EXISTANCE, YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING WOULD YOU NOT, NO OFCOURSE YOU WOULD NOT……ONLY ISREAL WOULD RITE….JUST LIKE SYRIA STILL DO IN LEBANON, I MEAN REALY WHO HAS THEIR HANDS ON LEBANON, BUT THAT IS OK WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEM YES,,, DON,T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO YES… 

          BEEN  naive is NOT understanding that NO ONE WILL SELL or GIVE weapons LIKE AMERICA DID with MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF WEAPONS….
          WHEN YOU HAVE A MILITIA GROUP THAT IS STRONGER THAN THE ARMY no one will give you weapons, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT… YOU MUST GIVE UP SOMETHING TO GAIN A LOT..

          DO YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND IF WE DID NOT HAVE PLO HA OR ANY OTHER GROUP OUTSIDE THE LEBANESE ARMY, THAT ISREAL WILL COME INTO LEBANON.
           THAT IS THE PART WHERE YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU ARE SOOOOOOO BLINDED BY THIS RESISTANCE CRAP..

          .WOULD ISREAL ATTACK LEBANON FOR NO REASON AT ALL, HAVE THE BALLS TO ANSWER AND GIVE REASONS WHY THEY WOULD ATTACK LEBANON, give FACTS AND REASONS, WHY WOULD THEY ATTACK LEBANON AND SIT ON IT,S LAND.
           PLEASE TELLL MEE MY EARS ARE WIDE OPEN   .. I KNOW YOU CAN NOT ANSWER THIS BUT THAT IS OK ……

          Also do not tell me about suffering Lebanon had to see , be it the south, east  or where ever, I spent 15 years in and out helping ALL LEBANESE WITH the RED CROSS so don,t tell me what the SOUTH  went through,, ALL OF LEBANON WENT THROUGH even worse than the south.
           DO YOU KNOW THE STORIES people spoke about, they WHERE ALL ABOUT HOW THE PLO AND THE LEBANESE WHERE KILLING EACH OTHER….. DO YOU KNOW THAT PART OF THE HORROR LEBANON HAD TO XPERIENCE. THE LEBANESE DID ONE MILLION TIMES WORSE THAN THE JEWS EVER DID TO TO EACH OTHER…….OR ARE YOU BLIND TO THAT FACT AS WELL……….
          YOU SEE MY PASSION IS FOR LEBANON AND THE PEOPLE UNLIKE YOU, YOUR PASSION BEEN HA WHICH IS IRAN NOT LEBANESE….. I KNOW YOUR GOING TO SAY HA IS LEBANESE, GIVE ME FACTS I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SHIITES I AM TALKING HA……MILITIA GROUP….BELONG TO IRAN

        2. master09 Avatar
          master09

          OK Dateam I want to ask you three questions I have asked you before and hundres of others and have never got back an answer or reason to before…..
          OK YOU READY….
          Just three ????

          Why did Isreal enter and bomb only parts of Lebanon in the past…..?? WHY

          And WHY will they want to attack Lebanon again…..?? WHY

          Why do they spy on Lebanon and other nations around them.???? WHY

          Some people say because Isreal does not want peace, but when you are brainwashed that is the sort of answer people give, So I say let them be brainwashed, but I will never be. I think Isreal has been bad on many a times but we are perfect and never our fault…..look at history and what we did to each other…..

          Just leave the Hummus recipe out of this.

        3. master09 Avatar
          master09

          So DATEAM will you have the courage to answerr these three questions I put to you below, or will you be like all the rest ignore the FACTS, BECUASE YOU SUPPORT A GROUP AND THATS THAT..

          FACTS Also look at Antars comments,,, I remember these days THE JEWS HAD FLOWERS THROWN AT THEM….OR YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW HISTORY ANYMORE…..I wonder who is misdirected, the blind or the one that seeks the FACTS…..from all sides…

        4. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I think, if they could not agree on making a Lebanese History book from the memories of the people – to show children of the future why sectarian stupidity and civil war doesn’t work – they should be accumulating the raft of memories being published here in Ya-Libnan; and after much cross-referencing could possibly put together a fairly accurate account – a compilation of strife, if you like – and something for required reading in schools.
          Everyone has a memory of how they or family were affected by the suspicions and hates for the ones who affected them – and then everyone has a theory about why and who as well. The problem is that the theories often don’t correspond to personal events, year-by-year.
          If you had to live in your underground parking for 6 months while various people shot up your apartment for no good reason (one I know re-built 3 times over 15 years of civil war), and never got furthur than a bread&food-store or your own little street to see an overall picture of what was happening, then how could any of the theories you heard at the time (or after) relate with any accuracy to any of the factions causing your personal strife?
          And then, with the restrictions placed on you by either the Syrians or the Israelis – with the UN Stuck in the middle at Tyre for years trying to keep at least two sides apart when they wished to be killing each other over YOUR land … long enough for a child to become a teenager at least or an adult with no memory of the beginnings in the 1970’s or of a Beirut considered the Paris of the Middle East … and a LARGE number of people barely schooled at all – lending more theories and hatreds for sects you know nothing about.
           HOW NOW to have any kind of realistic ‘democratic’ voting on anything, or a country with a ‘common goal’ for it’s people, when there IS NO education-based commonality of thought on why a civil war is bad for everyone, with a compilation of every little event and the stupidities which caused it to happen?
          Why do we know so much of the civil strife caused by little wars in other countries? Because it was written down, verified, and published for future generations to learn by.

      6. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        your passion is good…a little misdirected but good….im not saying im advocating anything….there is more to it than the simplicity you prescribe….until you have lived in the south and been through what they have you cannot understand it…here lies the problem…we have lived in a failed state for years….the south has always been neglected….ask yourself how hzb came to be? if it wasnt for them the palestinians would be living in southern lebanon…even the israelis admit that their invasion in 1982 was a major blunder because they achieved nothing…the people of the south copped the palestinians then the israelis….as bad as what the syrians were in the north its nothing compared to the south….everyone has their opinion however in my point the equation is simple….arm our army in a way so that the israelis think long and hard before a single plane flies over us…so it becomes inconceivable for them to touch any part of our sovereignty and i will be the first one to say hzb time is up….but till now noone has been able to come up with a way of arming our army to full strength…as a government we are not allowed to purchase defensive or ofensive weapons because the usa and israel have agreements as what sort of weapons allowed around them….i dont recall the hzb ever saying they dont want the army to be strong and i think people would be naive to think that the army is not helping the hzb…i mean seriously have you ever seen trucks driving through downtown beirut to the south loaded with missiles? you know whats even sadder is the fact that  say the hzb renounced its weapons tommorrow handed them in and cut ties with iran…the lebanese government wouldnt even be able to afford the people of the south…..bottom line israel dosen’t sign peace treaties unless it has the upper hand and its on its terms….just like with egypt and jordan…..sorry but you may have your opinion but mine is simple…. they want peace its on our terms…take back the palestinians,get out of our land…stop illegal overflites,stop spying ( are you telling me israel dosent spy on the egyptians and jordanians because they have a peace treaty???) we have our dignity as well….trust me there will be no war with iran or lebanon….if israel knew it could defeat the hzb after 2006 it would have gone in already…they prey on the weak….israel is so innocent its always the victim??? what has the hasbani got to do with the hzb? they sat in lebanon for 20 years and drained the life out of the laitani….re hzb i agree eventually they have to give them up…but the government needs to show the south what its options are to protect and serve them….for you to say that hzb gives its weapons to the army is naive….you never show nyour cards its like taking your clothes off…even the army would want them hidden….when the army becomes all it should be then hzb will cease and it can become under the control of the army command as a special unit…..is going to take another naher elbared for people to understand the importance of equipping our army just look around you as to what is happening.

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          OK Dateam I want to ask you three questions I have asked you before and hundres of others and have never got back an answer or reason to before…..
          OK YOU READY….
          Just three ????

          Why did Isreal enter and bomb only parts of Lebanon in the past…..?? WHY

          And WHY will they want to attack Lebanon again…..?? WHY

          Why do they spy on Lebanon and other nations around them.???? WHY

          Some people say because Isreal does not want peace, but when you are brainwashed that is the sort of answer people give, So I say let them be brainwashed, but I will never be. I think Isreal has been bad on many a times but we are perfect and never our fault…..look at history and what we did to each other…..

          Just leave the Hummus recipe out of this.

      7. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        of course israel wants to sign a peace treaty…they tried with gmayell and when he wouldnt give them what they wanted on their terms look what happened to him…if we give israel what they want today pf course they would want a peace treaty…but what we want and they want are 2 different things….youtube odid yonin natos plan to divide lebanon…check it out….let me know what you think

      8. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        of course israel wants to sign a peace treaty…they tried with gmayell and when he wouldnt give them what they wanted on their terms look what happened to him…if we give israel what they want today pf course they would want a peace treaty…but what we want and they want are 2 different things….youtube odid yonin natos plan to divide lebanon…check it out….let me know what you think

  7. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    Today Israel threatened to attack Lebanon over the Hatzbani River… While villages in south Lebanon today ration water for a week at a time in the summer, We cannot divert water from our own river to provide water services to our country….While you take a shower in Beirut in salt water Israel will bomb if we use our fresh water….. You people can google it and see the article on the Jerusalem post and see the Zionist comments…. How they should annex half of Lebanon and take all our water….And bomb us to the stone age….

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      I thought it was the Stone Age, Moe …. 😉
      And yes, too many people sucking the water supply everywhere ….

  8. Moe2000 Avatar
    Moe2000

    Today Israel threatened to attack Lebanon over the Hatzbani River… While villages in south Lebanon today ration water for a week at a time in the summer, We cannot divert water from our own river to provide water services to our country….While you take a shower in Beirut in salt water Israel will bomb if we use our fresh water…..

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      I thought it was the Stone Age, Moe …. 😉
      And yes, too many people sucking the water supply everywhere ….

    2. master09 Avatar
      master09

      Wow…where do you get this stuff from, The everything is Isreal fault site…and how to blame everything on Isreal site..
      and Isreal will attack Lebanon.
      Moe please show me facts thats Isreal invaded and attacked Lebanon for NO REASON at all. Tell me if you are a man and can see the facts, not what you get feed, Why did ISREAL INVADE LEBANON IN THE PAST……years…. FACTS….

      1. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        its in the daily star as well i read it….tell israel to take back the palestinians…stop taking our water…stop its illegal overflights….respect our soverignty….withdraw from remaining lands….they can build all the walls they want on their side….allow our army to patrol our borders with proper weapons like they do not water pistols like the egyptians and jordanians….stop spying on us and yes lets talk peace…that way hzb wont need to exist and i guess everyone will be happy…true?

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Ok datam, lets put it in term you mite understand. They build all the walls on their side FIRST.
          They spy on us because we have a FIGHTING group, YOU KNOW LIKE A GANG, NOT A STATE, that openly state each day that the destruction of Isreal is their main aim. Second HA is not a government or a country it is the Lebanese governmet who should be talking…peace with Isreal.. Who the F…K is HA they are in a land fighting a war that the LEBANESE do not want but ONLY  their supporters…AND THEIR KIND WANT……

          Lebanon does petrol the borders and if you want proper weapons why does HA not give the ARMY some of these amazing weapons from Syria and Iran so they can use them.

          Isreal like any country has a rite to protect their people from NOT A COUNTRY BUT A GROUP WITHIN A STATE…. WOULD YOU NOT SPY ON THEM NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, BE IT BLACK OR WHITe…

          What point are you trying to Argue YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT BE IT IN USA IRAQ OR WHEREVER ,,,,,, HA IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PART, THEY ARE A FIGHTING GROUP WITHIN A COUNTRY .

          Isreal will not leave these lands because they have said it before, as LONG AS LEBANON HARBOURS MILITIA GROUPS THAT THREATEN OUR XCESTANCE WE WILL STAY WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE READY FOR PEACE ARE YOU OR ARE YOU GOING TO SAFE GAURD MALITIA GROUPS IN YOUR COUNTRY…

          HEZBALLAH IS NOT A COUNTRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY ISREAL DO WHAT THEY DOOOOOOOOOOOOO……
          PEACE WILL NEVER BE AS LONG AS WE HAVE GROUPS OUTSIDE THE STATE THAT THREATEN OTHER NATIONS WITH DESTRUCTION, NO MATTER WHO IT IS…
          THEY CAME INTO LEBANON WHEN PLO FIRED ROCKETS OVER, THEY CAME AFTER MARCH 12 WHEN THE PLO CAME FROM LEBANON AND KILLED 38 JEWS.
          .On March 15, three days after the massacre, Israel launched Operation Litani against PLO bases in southern Lebanon.
           From the inception of Hezbollah to the present,[9][44] the elimination of the State of Israel has been one of Hezbollah’s primary goals. Some translations of Hezbollah’s 1985 Arabic-language manifesto state that “our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated”.[9] According to Hezbollah’s Deputy-General, Na’im Qasim, the struggle against Israel is a core belief of Hezbollah and the central rationale of Hezbollah’s existence.

          Lebanon now considers the Shebaa farms—a 26-km² (10-mi²) piece of land captured by Israel from Syria in the 1967 war and considered by the UN to be disputed territory between Syria and Israel—to be Lebanese territory. THE SYRIAN SAY THEY HAVE A CLAIM ON THESE FARMS MORE THAN LEBANO, WHY DO WE NOT STAND UP TO THEM…

          You see when you are a country and you know a group like this is at your DOOR STEP WHAT THE F….. K WOULD YOU DO, MAKE THEM SANDWICHES FOR A MEETING… where are you coming from…..    

           
           THATS WHERE I GET THIS FROM………… 

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Sounds good dateam …

      2. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        heres one for you 05.09.97 israeli commandos attempt to infiltrate south lebanon…hzb and lebanese army intercept…in the process 12 israeli commandoes are killed and thats from new york times…theres more if you want
        ?

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          I can,t stop lol .   TODAY IS THE DAY FOR PEACE NOT 1200 BC . WHAT CENTURY ARE YOU LIVING IN.. THEY WILL DO IT FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS , AS LONG AS THERE IS A GANG NOT A COUNTRY IN LEBANON CALLED HA LIKE THERE WAS PLO… DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS COME INTO LEBANON…. WAKE UP THE ROSES SMELL NICE….BAH BAH

          I AM LEBANESE BUT I CAN SEE WHY MY TEAM HAS A PROBLEM, I DO NOT BLAME THE WORLD FOR THEM…………

      3. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        theres another article in todays daily star re hasbani river and israels threats…

      4. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        your passion is good…a little misdirected but good….im not saying im advocating anything….there is more to it than the simplicity you prescribe….until you have lived in the south and been through what they have you cannot understand it…here lies the problem…we have lived in a failed state for years….the south has always been neglected….ask yourself how hzb came to be? if it wasnt for them the palestinians would be living in southern lebanon…even the israelis admit that their invasion in 1982 was a major blunder because they achieved nothing…the people of the south copped the palestinians then the israelis….as bad as what the syrians were in the north its nothing compared to the south….everyone has their opinion however in my point the equation is simple….arm our army in a way so that the israelis think long and hard before a single plane flies over us…so it becomes inconceivable for them to touch any part of our sovereignty and i will be the first one to say hzb time is up….but till now noone has been able to come up with a way of arming our army to full strength…as a government we are not allowed to purchase defensive or ofensive weapons because the usa and israel have agreements as what sort of weapons allowed around them….i dont recall the hzb ever saying they dont want the army to be strong and i think people would be naive to think that the army is not helping the hzb…i mean seriously have you ever seen trucks driving through downtown beirut to the south loaded with missiles? you know whats even sadder is the fact that  say the hzb renounced its weapons tommorrow handed them in and cut ties with iran…the lebanese government wouldnt even be able to afford the people of the south…..bottom line israel dosen’t sign peace treaties unless it has the upper hand and its on its terms….just like with egypt and jordan…..sorry but you may have your opinion but mine is simple…. they want peace its on our terms…take back the palestinians,get out of our land…stop illegal overflites,stop spying ( are you telling me israel dosent spy on the egyptians and jordanians because they have a peace treaty???) we have our dignity as well….trust me there will be no war with iran or lebanon….if israel knew it could defeat the hzb after 2006 it would have gone in already…they prey on the weak….israel is so innocent its always the victim??? what has the hasbani got to do with the hzb? they sat in lebanon for 20 years and drained the life out of the laitani….re hzb i agree eventually they have to give them up…but the government needs to show the south what its options are to protect and serve them….for you to say that hzb gives its weapons to the army is naive….you never show nyour cards its like taking your clothes off…even the army would want them hidden….when the army becomes all it should be then hzb will cease and it can become under the control of the army command as a special unit…..is going to take another naher elbared for people to understand the importance of equipping our army just look around you as to what is happening.

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          SO what your saying is it,s your way or no way at all, Isreal must bow to the demands is that so, that is very simple but laughable.
          Second Lebanon can not be armed and has been stated before, is because
          On March 1991, parliament passed an amnesty law that pardoned all political crimes prior to its enactment. In May 1991, the militias (with the important exception of Hezbollah) were dissolved, and the Lebanese Armed Forces began to slowly rebuild themselves as Lebanon’s only major non-sectarian institution .
          The world will not ARM LEBANON BECAUSE HA IS STRONGER THAN THE LEBANESE ARMY, DO YOU SEE THE POINT OF ALL THAT, IS THAT SIMPLE FOR YOU……YOU CAN NOT ARM A COUNTRY WHEN YOU HAVE A MILITIA GROUP STRONGER THAN THE ARMY…..IMPOSSIBLE…..
          When you have a MILITIA not a government that threatens your country are YOU GOING TO SIT AND SIGN A PEACE TREATY, HA IS NOT A COUNTRY, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF…YOU CAN NOT SIGN A PEACE TREATY WITH HA…..Isreal has already said they are ready to sign a peace treaty in 2008 but you must SOLVE THE MILITIA PROBLEM THAT IS STRONGER THAN YOUR ARMY, IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU OR ARE YOU BLIND TO SEE THAT.

          Answer a ??? and you want I know, WHEN DID ISREAL INVADE LEBANON WITHOUT A REASON OR AN ATTACK ON IT,S PEOPLE AND LAND…PLEASE ANSWER THIS ??? WITH FACTS , FACTS…. THAT IS WHY THEY SPY ON JORDAN EGYPT LEBANON SYRIA BECAUSE THEY HARBOUR GROUPS THAT THREATEN THEIR EXISTANCE, YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING WOULD YOU NOT, NO OFCOURSE YOU WOULD NOT……ONLY ISREAL WOULD RITE….JUST LIKE SYRIA STILL DO IN LEBANON, I MEAN REALY WHO HAS THEIR HANDS ON LEBANON, BUT THAT IS OK WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEM YES,,, DON,T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO YES… 

          BEEN  naive is NOT understanding that NO ONE WILL SELL GIVE LIKE AMERICA DID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF WEAPONS WHEN YOU HAVE A MILITIA GROUP THAT IS STRONGER THAN THE ARMY, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT…YOU MUST GIVE UP SOMETHING TO GAIN A LOT..

          DO YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND IF WE DID NOT HAVE PLO HA OR ANY OTHER GROUP OUTSIDE THE LEBANESE ARMY, THAT ISREAL WILL COME INTO LEBANON.
           THAT IS THE PART WHERE YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU ARE SOOOOOOO BLINDED BY THIS RESISTANCE CRAP..

          .WOULD ISREAL ATTACK LEBANON FOR NO REASON AT ALL, HAVE THE BALLS TO ANSWER AND GIVE REASONS WHY THEY WOULD ATTACK LEBANON, FACTS AND REASONS, WHY WOULD THEY ATTACK LEBANON AND SIT ON IT,S LAND.
           PLEASE TELLL MEE MY EARS ARE WIDE OPEN   .. I KNOW YOU CAN NOT ANSWER THIS BUT THAT IS OK ……

          Also do not tell me about suffering Lebanon had to see , be it the south, east  or where ever, I spent 15 years in and out helping ALL LEBANESE WITH the RED CROSS so don,t tell me what the SOUTH  went through,, ALL OF LEBANON WENT THROUGH even worse than the south.
           DO YOU KNOW THE STORIES WHERE ALL ABOUT HOW THE PLO AND THE LEBANESE WHERE KILLING EACH OTHER….. DO YOU KNOW THAT PART OF THE HORROR LEBANON HAD TO XPERIENCE. THE LEBANESE DID ONE MILLION TIMES WORSE THAN THE JEWS EVER DID TO TO EACH OTHER…….OR ARE YOU BLIND TO THAT FACT AS WELL……….  

        2. master09 Avatar
          master09

          OK Dateam I want to ask you three questions I have asked you before and hundres of others and have never got back an answer or reason to before…..
          OK YOU READY….
          Just three ????

          Why did Isreal enter and bomb only parts of Lebanon in the past…..?? WHY

          And WHY will they want to attack Lebanon again…..?? WHY

          Why do they spy on Lebanon and other nations around them.???? WHY

          Some people say because Isreal does not want peace, but when you are brainwashed that is the sort of answer people give, So I say let them be brainwashed, but I will never be. I think Isreal has been bad on many a times but we are perfect and never our fault…..look at history and what we did to each other…..

          Just leave the Hummus recipe out of this.

        3. master09 Avatar
          master09

          So DARTEAM will you have the courage to answerr these three questions I put to you or will you be like all the rest ignore the FACTS, BECUASE YOU SUPPORT A GROUP AND THATS THAT..

          FROM Antar comments ….     stop speaking in the name of all shias…many shias themselves criticis nasrullah and the fact that he has holding them hostages in return for their silence at his iranian/persian agenda.

        4. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          I think, if they could not agree on making a Lebanese History book from the memories of the people – to show children of the future why sectarian stupidity and civil war doesn’t work – they should be accumulating the raft of memories being published here in Ya-Libnan; and after much cross-referencing could possibly put together a fairly accurate account – a compilation of strife, if you like – and something for required reading in schools.
          Everyone has a memory of how they or family were affected by the suspicions and hates for the ones who affected them – and then everyone has a theory about why and who as well. The problem is that the theories often don’t correspond to personal events, year-by-year.
          If you had to live in your underground parking for 6 months while various people shot up your apartment for no good reason (one I know re-built 3 times over 15 years of civil war), and never got furthur than a bread&food-store or your own little street to see an overall picture of what was happening, then how could any of the theories you heard at the time (or after) relate with any accuracy to any of the factions causing your personal strife?
          And then, with the restrictions placed on you by either the Syrians or the Israelis – with the UN Stuck in the middle at Tyre for years trying to keep at least two sides apart when they wished to be killing each other over YOUR land … long enough for a child to become a teenager at least or an adult with no memory of the beginnings in the 1970’s or of a Beirut considered the Paris of the Middle East … and a LARGE number of people barely schooled at all – lending more theories and hatreds for sects you know nothing about.
           HOW NOW to have any kind of realistic ‘democratic’ voting on anything, or a country with a ‘common goal’ for it’s people, when there IS NO education-based commonality of thought on why a civil war is bad for everyone, with a compilation of every little event and the stupidities which caused it to happen?
          Why do we know so much of the civil strife caused by little wars in other countries? Because it was written down, verified, and published for future generations to learn by.

      5. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        of course israel wants to sign a peace treaty…they tried with gmayell and when he wouldnt give them what they wanted on their terms look what happened to him…if we give israel what they want today pf course they would want a peace treaty…but what we want and they want are 2 different things….youtube odid yonin natos plan to divide lebanon…check it out….let me know what you think

  9. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    master im here for some reason i cant click on reply to your comment…did you read my reply to antar in the other article? did you check out the youtube clip i told you about?to antar2011…fact1…yes it was resistance to all..but nasrallah did not takeover till 1992? yes they fought with amal same way christians fought christians as well( stupidity of the civil war) wilayet al faqeeh..dont agree with it…each to their own..fact2…i dont think they had a choice they werent formed yet then…your right about them being happy for israelis to come in because of the mess the palestinains caused…ironic so were the christians???? ( this was israels blunder of 1982..had they gone taken out the palestinians and not stayed we probably wouldnt be where we are now???? the christians it may bge said may have made the mistake of not asking the shiites to join them against the palestinians again past is past but their are are certain similarities???fact3…yes as part of resistence it was nearly everyone in certain areas….fact4…again wilayat alfaqeeh dont agree but then again certain christian groups wanted christian state as well( again all part of mess of civil war)….unfortunately what has become of palestinian cause but a lost cause.?????fact5 yes amal and hzb fought each other again as certain christian parties did for power struggles….bottom line noone is better than anyone…we need to fix this and to do it the state must take control…ALL our politicians need to be held accountable by all of us the citizens…god bless………your assumptions are typical of the misguided what makes you think im shia? unlike others i speak of people as a people….not that i have to justify myself to you or anyone else but let those that are perfect cast the first stone…i have a company that employs over 100 lebanese…religion is not a prerequisite for me hiring anyone its not even on my application forms….my family has mixed marrages in it …i never grew up to be taught to hate….i do believe in respect on all levels and the value of a persons dignity….im not afraid to call a spade a spade to anyone about anyone and if you look at my previous posts you would see that….now to answer your questions……why did israel come in the past? we know that to wipe out the plo and push the palestinians in israel into southern lebanon….gmayell stopped that intially and payed the price for it and the southern lebanese carried on with it….why did they bomb again? because they were occupying and there was a resistance….why spy on lebanon and other countries? the mere fact that you ask this question is appalling to me…..the current state of lebanon is technically considered in a state of war…this is the government….while this position exists we as lebanese are entitled to resist…how you believe the country t should resist is a persons own opinion but this is the current state we live in…..israel supposedly went to war in 2006 because of 2 captured soldiers in the end what did they achieve? the war was always going to happen and thats not my opinion dr finkelstein even said that check it out on youtube he has an interview with mustaqbal reporter ( by the way he is banned from entering israel because of his stances against zionism ). id like to say lebanon not hzb showed the arabs that we no longer have to fear israel anymore and they were able to release hundreds of prisoners dead and alive from israel…..the entire arab world did last more than 6 hours in 1967 not 6 days and we lebanese stood our ground…..why this will never end is one of many reasons..the very definition of zionism itself refers to the land of israel being from the euphratis to the nile…refering to some of your comments re 2006 war..im sorry but where did you get your information from? siniora was vilified from the people of the south because he was not giving the money donated…thats why qatar for example stopped giving the money to the government and actually opened up offices in the southern villages and dealt directly with the people of the south…..regarding weapons to the government….again you must be naive to think that the usa will give lebanons army weapons capable of defending us from israel..whther hzb existed or not….there are agreements between israel and usa that no weapons are to be sold that can be used against it…..when naher elbared happened uae donated a cobra attack helicpter to lebanon…uae was told by usa to remove the rocket launchers from it because thats what israel wanted.;…our beloved army was filling up barrels with tnt and explosives and dumping it on naher elbared what a disgrace…i could go in but its probably pointless because it wont go anywhere but i lkeave you with this thought…..in 2000 when israel withdrew they left the sla behind thinking hzb would slaughter them and so ignite another civil war….they didnt touch anyone those fled left those that remained were handed to army and tried……naher elbared they slaughtered our troops in their sleep cutting their throats open from ear to ear and gouging out their eyes because someone didnt leave them money their bank accounts…..when this mess i8s over in syria and if assad ends up staying be prepared for another naher elbared trust me….the mistake was hzb should have never entered the political arena they should have stayed out of site and out of mind…but they were forced to ….the south is relatively quiet compared to whats brewing in the north….and if you want to talk weapons thats another story everyone has them….strengthen the army and make it a strong well equipped fighting force that noone dares come near and you dont need usa for that weapons can be bought everywhere….god bless

  10. dateam Avatar
    dateam

    master im here for some reason i cant click on reply to your comment…did you read my reply to antar in the other article? did you check out the youtube clip i told you about?to antar2011…fact1…yes it was resistance to all..but nasrallah did not takeover till 1992? yes they fought with amal same way christians fought christians as well( stupidity of the civil war) wilayet al faqeeh..dont agree with it…each to their own..fact2…i dont think they had a choice they werent formed yet then…your right about them being happy for israelis to come in because of the mess the palestinains caused…ironic so were the christians???? ( this was israels blunder of 1982..had they gone taken out the palestinians and not stayed we probably wouldnt be where we are now???? the christians it may bge said may have made the mistake of not asking the shiites to join them against the palestinians again past is past but their are are certain similarities???fact3…yes as part of resistence it was nearly everyone in certain areas….fact4…again wilayat alfaqeeh dont agree but then again certain christian groups wanted christian state as well( again all part of mess of civil war)….unfortunately what has become of palestinian cause but a lost cause.?????fact5 yes amal and hzb fought each other again as certain christian parties did for power struggles….bottom line noone is better than anyone…we need to fix this and to do it the state must take control…ALL our politicians need to be held accountable by all of us the citizens…god bless………your assumptions are typical of the misguided what makes you think im shia? unlike others i speak of people as a people….not that i have to justify myself to you or anyone else but let those that are perfect cast the first stone…i have a company that employs over 100 lebanese…religion is not a prerequisite for me hiring anyone its not even on my application forms….my family has mixed marrages in it …i never grew up to be taught to hate….i do believe in respect on all levels and the value of a persons dignity….im not afraid to call a spade a spade to anyone about anyone and if you look at my previous posts you would see that….now to answer your questions……why did israel come in the past? we know that to wipe out the plo and push the palestinians in israel into southern lebanon….gmayell stopped that intially and payed the price for it and the southern lebanese carried on with it….why did they bomb again? because they were occupying and there was a resistance….why spy on lebanon and other countries? the mere fact that you ask this question is appalling to me…..the current state of lebanon is technically considered in a state of war…this is the government….while this position exists we as lebanese are entitled to resist…how you believe the country t should resist is a persons own opinion but this is the current state we live in…..israel supposedly went to war in 2006 because of 2 captured soldiers in the end what did they achieve? the war was always going to happen and thats not my opinion dr finkelstein even said that check it out on youtube he has an interview with mustaqbal reporter ( by the way he is banned from entering israel because of his stances against zionism ). id like to say lebanon not hzb showed the arabs that we no longer have to fear israel anymore and they were able to release hundreds of prisoners dead and alive from israel…..the entire arab world did last more than 6 hours in 1967 not 6 days and we lebanese stood our ground…..why this will never end is one of many reasons..the very definition of zionism itself refers to the land of israel being from the euphratis to the nile…refering to some of your comments re 2006 war..im sorry but where did you get your information from? siniora was vilified from the people of the south because he was not giving the money donated…thats why qatar for example stopped giving the money to the government and actually opened up offices in the southern villages and dealt directly with the people of the south…..regarding weapons to the government….again you must be naive to think that the usa will give lebanons army weapons capable of defending us from israel..whther hzb existed or not….there are agreements between israel and usa that no weapons are to be sold that can be used against it…..when naher elbared happened uae donated a cobra attack helicpter to lebanon…uae was told by usa to remove the rocket launchers from it because thats what israel wanted.;…our beloved army was filling up barrels with tnt and explosives and dumping it on naher elbared what a disgrace…i could go in but its probably pointless because it wont go anywhere but i lkeave you with this thought…..in 2000 when israel withdrew they left the sla behind thinking hzb would slaughter them and so ignite another civil war….they didnt touch anyone those fled left those that remained were handed to army and tried……naher elbared they slaughtered our troops in their sleep cutting their throats open from ear to ear and gouging out their eyes because someone didnt leave them money their bank accounts…..when this mess i8s over in syria and if assad ends up staying be prepared for another naher elbared trust me….the mistake was hzb should have never entered the political arena they should have stayed out of site and out of mind…but they were forced to ….the south is relatively quiet compared to whats brewing in the north….and if you want to talk weapons thats another story everyone has them….strengthen the army and make it a strong well equipped fighting force that noone dares come near and you dont need usa for that weapons can be bought everywhere….god bless

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