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Al-Qaeda-inspired group claims responsibility for Damascus bombings

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Meanwhile, fresh violence erupted in the eastern part of Syria as an al-Qaeda-inspired group claimed responsibility for two recent suicide bombings in the capital.

In a statement posted Wednesday on a militant website, an Islamist group called the Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant claimed responsibility for twin suicide bombings in Damascus on Saturday. The blasts, which targeted the air force intelligence building and the criminal security department, killed at least 27 people, the state-run news agency said.

The Associated Press could not verify the authenticity of Wednesday’s statement, which said the attacks were in retaliation for the Syrian regime’s shelling of residential areas in opposition strongholds in Homs, Idlib, Hama and Daraa.

“We tell the (Syrian) regime to stop the massacres against the Sunnis, otherwise, you will bear the sin of the Alawites,” the Al-Nusra Front said. “What is coming is more bitter and painful, with God’s will.”

The group also has claimed responsibility for earlier suicide attacks.

Army seizes Deir el-Zour

On Tuesday, Syrian soldiers backed by tanks seized the eastern city of Deir el-Zour from rebels, the latest opposition stronghold to fall to an offensive by the better equipped Syrian military.

Activist Osama Mansour said government troops and armoured cars entered the city about 100 kilometres from the Iraqi border from four sides, sparking short gunbattles with fighters from the Free Syrian Army.

Mansour, reached by telephone in Deir el-Zour, said the rebels quit fighting and took shelter in homes and apartments, fearing that protracted clashes would destroy the city.

Taking back rebel-held cities in the past weeks, government troops have often heavily shelled neighbourhoods before sending in troops, killing civilians and damaging buildings.

“They knew they could not hold control of the neighbourhoods, so they decided to stop fighting, knowing that the regime would bring in heavy weapons and kill many civilians,” Mansour said.

The rebels also lacked guns and ammunition, he said.

CBC News

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38 responses to “Al-Qaeda-inspired group claims responsibility for Damascus bombings”

  1. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    In the name of God , these murderers promise more killing.They assure us that “What is coming is more bitter and painful, with God’s will”, They insist on “God’s will”,and they assure us that “God’s will” to kill and inflict more pain on Syrian people is guaranteed.
    They appoint themselves to be the Guardians of the Sunnis,with “God’s will”,and promise to kill the Alawites so that they please God because they think that this is ” God’s will”.
    Soon they will promise to kill the christian,again with “God’s will”,and also the Sunnis who don’t approve  of ,or agree with them,with “God’s will”. They insist on being the spokesmen of God.They insist that God needs them to implement his will on earth. Well Democracy and freedom is guaranteed  for the Syrian people,with “God’s will”.
    It is time for Syrian opposition to openly and strongly condemn and dissociate itself from these people.
     Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven with people like you,killers.

    .

    1. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      prophet , have you ever heard of a group saying the devil is on our side? or  a groups slogan “we are the army of satan” ?   god seems to be  in every war and on everybodys side.

      like many i have endured many tragedys and bad things have  happened in my life  and if i had to pin point the cause of everything bad that happened  in my life  in one word the word would be FALSHOOD , false friends, fase partners, false ingredients false,advertizing,etc 

       nothing can damage humanity more that false religion as it surely  tastes   just as good as the real thing unless you analize it and have accurate knowlage what gods will is,,, as of now   god has been misrepresented grossly by many.

       if you consider  a family hunkered down in a basement moments before th door is kicked down and from  top to bottom men women and toddlers  are executed  as a recent cnn video clip shows, it would be safe on my part to say in their last moment they were praying to god for his protection yet the killers simultaniously are convinced that god is on their side,,,,, this happens in every war  and i dare say that the devil has the majority wrapped around his finger because they lack ACCURATE  knowlage in how to qualify gods will in relation to events in our life,,,, no doubt the devil has thousands of years experience on  us stupid humans that only live to be 60-80 and think we know it all and fall in his trap and web of lies over and over again.

      question the results of our history it can not possibly have gods mark or presence, based on so much knowlage about his divine wisdom and creation it is far too contrary to his personality as described on many occasions for him to be part of what we are beholding all around us.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Greeting, geo
        You’re right, God seems to be in every war,and in every twisted mind out there.Like I said in a reply to antar last night, God does not make people do anything, it’s the choices we make which  make us do or not do things. If we  believe that We have no choice, then we can blame  God for everything we do,or not do.It always gets me angry when people invoke God’s name or will, in order to justify their actions and beliefs, but killing in the name of God, gets me way beyond  anger. They fight to be right using any twisted logic and  interpretation,knowing that  God, won’t publish a denial which says that these are not his will.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          prophet…. you are correct we choose…but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…
          there is a slight difference in what we agree on.

        2. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          prophet…. you are correct we choose…but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…
          there is a slight difference in what we agree on.

      2. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        thank you for saying even if some pple claim they are following Allah’s right Path but in fact they have no clue what Alla’s Path is. ..that’s somthing i am finding myself repeating often.

        pple can be muslims, christians, jews, etc in name only without having the knowledge what their religion is really saying even if they have read their holy book back to front…

        1. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          good morning antar,
           although i have little  knowlage on islam vs judaisim and christianity i do know that the second most used word in the quoran is KNOWLAGE,  there is heavy emphasis in judaism an christianlity  for seeking accurate knowlage on how to live in harmony with gods will.  you are correct that in every religion there are those that lack knowlage of their faith or intentionaly reject it for  the inconvenience and restraint required to fullfill their obligations as members of that faith.

          1. antar2011 Avatar
            antar2011

            the first word of the Quran was “read” which symbolises knowledge.

            “quran 96:1] read, in the name of your Lord, who created”
            [96:2] created man from a clot of concelaed blood
            [96:3] read, and your lord is Most Generous
            [96:4] Who taught by the pen
            [96:5] taught man what he did not know

            is a beautiful chapter in Quran. if you read the rest of it , you will realise that this knoweldge is altaqwa meaning enjoying good and forbiding evil…this is [among other things]the essence of islam. Hence ‘the pen” is also mentioned in this chapter.

            and you are right seeking the right ‘knowledge’ is what is encouraged in islam and other religions.

  2. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    In the name of God , these murderers promise more killing.They assure us that “What is coming is more bitter and painful, with God’s will”, They insist on “God’s will”,and they assure us that “God’s will” to kill and inflict more pain on Syrian people is guaranteed.
    They appoint themselves to be the Guardians of the Sunnis,with “God’s will”,and promise to kill the Alawites so that they please God because they think that this is ” God’s will”.
    Soon they will promise to kill the christian,again with “God’s will”,and also the Sunnis who don’t approve  of ,or agree with them,with “God’s will”. They insist on being the spokesmen of God. Well Democracy and freedom is guaranteed  for the Syrian people,with “God’s will”.
    It is time for Syrian opposition to openly and strongly condemn and dissociate itself from these people. 

    .

    1. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      prophet , have you ever heard of a group saying the devil is on our side? or  a groups slogan “we are the army of satan” ?   god seems to be  in every war and on everybodys side.

      like many i have endured many tragedys and bad things have  happened in my life  and if i had to pin point the cause of everything bad that happened  in my life  in one word the word would be FALSHOOD , false friends, fase partners, false ingredients false,advertizing,etc 

       nothing can damage humanity more that false religion as it surely  tastes   just as good as the real thing unless you analize it and have accurate knowlage what gods will is,,, as of now   god has been misrepresented grossly by many.

       if you consider  a family hunkered down in a basement moments before th door is kicked down and from  top to bottom men women and toddlers  are executed  as a recent cnn video clip shows, it would be safe on my part to say in their last moment they were praying to god for his protection yet the killers simultaniously are convinced that god is on their side,,,,, this happens in every war  and i dare say that the devil has the majority wrapped around his finger because they lack ACCURATE  knowlage in how to qualify gods will in relation to events in our life,,,, no doubt the devil has thousands of years experience on  us stupid humans that only live to be 60-80 and think we know it all and fall in his trap and web of lies over and over again.

      question the results of our history it can not possibly have gods mark or presence, based on so much knowlage about his divine wisdom and creation it is far too contrary to his personality as described on many occasions for him to be part of what we are beholding all around us.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Greeting, geo
        You’re right, God seems to be in every war,and in every twisted mind out there.Like I said in a reply to antar last night, God does nor make people do anything, it’s the choices we make which  make us do or not do things. If we  believe that We have no choice, then we can blame  God for everything we do,or not do.It always gets me angry when people invoke God’s name or will, in order to justify their actions and beliefs, but killing in the name of God, gets me way beyond  anger. They fight to be right using any twisted logic and  interpretation,knowing that  God, won’t publish a denial which says that these are not his will. 

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          prophet…. you are correct we choose…but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…
          there is a slight difference in what we agree on.

      2. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        thank you for saying even if some pple claim they are following Allah’s right Path but in fact they have no clue what Alla’s Path is. ..that’s somthing i am finding myself repeating often.

        pple can be muslims, christians, jews, etc in name only without having the knowledge what their religion is really saying even if they have read their holy book back to front…

        1. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          good morning antar,
           although i have little  knowlage on islam vs judaisim and christianity i do know that the second most used word in the quoran is KNOWLAGE,  there is heavy emphasis in judaism an christianlity  for seeking accurate knowlage on how to live in harmony with gods will.  you are correct that in every religion there are those that lack knowlage of their faith or intentionaly reject it for  the inconvenience and restraint required to fullfill their obligations as members of that faith.

          1. antar2011 Avatar
            antar2011

            the first word of the Quran was “read” which symbolises knowledge.

            “quran 96:1] read, in the name of your Lord, who created”
            [96:2] created man from a clot of concelaed blood
            [96:3] read, and your lord is Most Generous
            [96:4] Who taught by the pen
            [96:5] taught man what he did not know

            is a beautiful chapter in Quran. if you read the rest of it , you will realise that this knoweldge is altaqwa meaning enjoying good and forbiding evil…this is [among other things]the essence of islam. Hence ‘the pen” is also mentioned in this chapter.

            and you are right seeking the right ‘knowledge’ is what is encouraged in islam and other religions.

  3. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    It is good that they claim responsibility at least, so that the opposition realizes that these murderers are infiltrating their ranks and are a liability on the Free Syria Movement. The opposition should act quickly and dissociate themselves from these terrorists if they want the support of the world for their cause. Actually, these acts of terrorism are helping the Asaad regime and giving it a legitmacy in its brutal acts.

  4. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    It is good that they claim responsibility at least, so that the opposition realizes that these murderers are infiltrating their ranks and are a liability on the Free Syria Movement. The opposition should act quickly and dissociate themselves from these terrorists if they want the support of the world for their cause. Actually, these acts of terrorism are helping the Asaad regime and giving it a legitmacy in its brutal acts.

  5. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Well, Assad was claiming all along there were terrorists .. so, now he collected a few of the idiots floating around.
    The headline brought to mind a song, curiously enough.
    “You’re the inspiration” – by Chicago.  Except that was a love song. The Al-Nusra Front missed that part I guess …
    Where in hell do they come from ?? Protecting the ‘Levant’???

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Well, Assad was claiming all along there were terrorists .. so, now he collected a few of the idiots floating around.
    The headline brought to mind a song, curiously enough.
    “You’re the inspiration” – by Chicago.  Except that was a love song. The Al-Nusra Front missed that part I guess …
    Where in hell do they come from ?? Protecting the ‘Levant’???

  7. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    antar2011, I don’t mean to be a pain in the A$$, but Your statement “but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…”is open for different ,and dangerous interpretations.
    I usually avoid discussion of religion and its interpretation, because I’m not an expert on the subject. But I feel the need to make a point despite my modest knowledge. I know one thing for sure, Religion and its interpretations has to make sense and has to pass logical tests.
    I gather that “Allah’s will” is the english translation to the term “mashiat alah”. . I don’t think you mean to say that “mashiat alah”means that if you are to make wrong choices, you do so because Alah shaa laka(wants you to ,or guided you to) to make such choices which could be very evil and destructive to you and others. I think the right interpretation of “God’s will” is that God gives you the will and ability to choose, but those choices are not forced upon you by God.
    If someone becomes a victim, People would say that it is mashiat alah (God’s will), in this case, it does not mean that God choose for you to be a victim, it is destiny. That is why God, in all of his books (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism), talks about people who have been wronged in life, and about people who choose to wrong others. massiat alah(God’s will) cannot be interpreted as God’s choice for someone to wrong others, and others to be wrong at the same time.
    Human choose to do wrong (or right), and it’s the destiny of others to be wronged and victimized.
    In your other comment, you say:” if some pple claim they are following Allah’s right Path but in fact they have no clue what Alla’s Path is. ..That’s somthing i am finding myself repeating often.”
    Which means that people can misinterpret what “God’s will” or mashiat alah, really mean, and in this case, misinterpretation of “Allah’s right path” can lead people to make the wrong choices, and attribute their choices, and the results thereafter, to God’s will.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      And that, Prophet, is the same as saying ‘the devil made me do it.’. No?

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Exactly,In modern laws, we have ” temporary insanity” also.Not getting into the devil tunnel because I may not be able to navigate my way out.lol.

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Exactly,In modern laws, we have ” temporary insanity” also.Not getting into the devil tunnel because I may not be able to navigate my way out.lol.

    2. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      hello prophet,

       the subject of the will of god is confusing and uncomfortable for many. here is my assessment, when you were flying with me recently  suppose  i decided to put the plane in a nose dive straight into the ground because your beard is too long lol, would that  be the will of god?  NO but the will of crazy geo.

      many god fearing people feel that it is blasphemous and arrogant to say they are going to do something unless they disclaim god willing first  but fail to understand that gods non negotiable iminent will is for the long term plan for mankind  but untill the devil is no more and the earth is restored to his original purpose of a paradise for all peace loving people we are on our own and are 100% responsible for our actions and decisions when we oppose his counsel and instructions on how to live and treat one another.

      it is contrary to everything documented about a peace loving god that all the attrocities we witnesed in this century are tied  his will somehow.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Good morning geo,

        Knowing that you like taking off much more than landing, it is a scary thought indeed,lol
        I’m glad, in this case, You choose a “corkscrew descend” than nose dive.Still my long beard was defying gravity,lol.
        After reminding me of that flight, I don’t want to talk about religion or politics anymore because they r not fun,

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Hahahhahaahaa . Hmmmm … Science took over. 😉
          It was the gravity of the situation which proved the truth. Man wasn’t meant to fly. 😉

    3. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      what you have raised here has been written volumes and volumes in islamic aqeedah and as you said it is not the right time nor place nor the person [i am no scholar] to dive into it. but since you have raised some points there, i cannot help but respond [as far as i am able to] briefly [as brief as i could] and then concentrate on the political stuff [as much as it is becoming hopeless].

      the way i see it is this [which seems logical and reasonble to me]…

      we have free choice, we choose what to eat , who to believe in, that we are all here by accident etc, God has given us free choice but it is a mistake to believe that our choice [a human choice] is the same as God’s choice-that God’s choosing for us is the same as our choosing for ourselves.

      i, as a muslim, believe that God is not like us, in any shape or form and His ‘Willing’ is not like our act of choosing.

       we know we have free choice/will and we don’t know what the future holds so when we choose, it’s a real choice unlike God who is not bound by past, present and future and wills things into existence with no motivation of external factors [as when humans do the ‘willing/choosing”]. So God knows what we choose and what we will choose and He faciliates that.

      but God’s plan for us can be changed, it is not a fixed will/plan. from our point of vew-as humans, we feel that we can change God’s will/mashi2atillah [because we have free choice/will]. we do that through our actions, our choices, our supplications. but…….the knowledge of that change in plan was already known by God.

      From our point of view, as humans, it’s a choice [since we don’t know what the future holds]…this is how we will be judged-if we knew the future consequences of our choices, then it would no longer be a test.

      yet from God’s prespective who exist outside of time and space, our actions and their consequences exist in His Knowledge that has no end and no begining, His ‘Qadaa’”, which is different from His “Qadar”which is His bringing into existence those events in accordance with that knowledge.

      also, as i believe God creates everything. Good, evil and everything in between so to speak.

      God creates the ability for the action to be committed, that it can only happen with His Will etc. it does not mean that the action is forced unto man. Man still has free will to decide to do an action or not.

      what’s important here is
      1- God has power over everything. nothing can happen independent of Him
      2-Cannot compare our choosing with God’s choosing
      3-We have ‘limited free’ choice/will in the realm for which we are accountable for.

  8. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    antar2011, I don’t mean to be a pain in the A$$, but Your statement “but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…”is open for different ,and dangerous interpretations.
    I usually avoid discussion of religion and its interpretation, because I’m not an expert on the subject. But I feel the need to make a point despite my modest knowledge. I know one thing for sure, Religion and its interpretations has to make sense and has to pass logical tests.
    I gather that “Allah’s will” is the english translation to the term “mashiat alah”. . I don’t think you mean to say that “mashiat alah”means that if you are to make wrong choices, you do so because Alah shaa laka(wants you to ,or guided you to) to make such choices which could be very evil and destructive to you and others. I think the right interpretation of “God’s will” is that God gives you the will and ability to choose, but those choices are not forced upon you by God.
    If someone becomes a victim, People would say that it is mashiat alah (God’s will), in this case, it does not mean that God choose for you to be a victim, it is destiny. That is why God, in all of his books (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism), talks about people who have been wronged in life, and about people who choose to wrong others. massiat alah(God’s will) cannot be interpreted as God’s choice for someone to wrong others, and others to be wrong at the same time.
    Human choose to do wrong (or right), and it’s the destiny of others to be wronged and victimized.
    In your other comment, you say:” if some pple claim they are following Allah’s right Path but in fact they have no clue what Alla’s Path is. ..That’s somthing i am finding myself repeating often.”
    Which means that people can misinterpret what “God’s will” or mashiat alah, really mean, and in this case, misinterpretation of “Allah’s right path” can lead people to make the wrong choices, and attribute their choices, and the results thereafter, to God’s will.

    1. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      hello prophet,

       the subject of the will of god is confusing and uncomfortable for many. here is my assessment, when you were flying with me recently  suppose  i decided to put the plane in a nose dive straight into the ground because your beard is too long lol, would that  be the will of god?  NO but the will of crazy geo.

      many god fearing people feel that it is blasphemous and arrogant to say they are going to do something unless they disclaim god willing first  but fail to understand that gods non negotiable iminent will is for the long term plan for mankind  but untill the devil is no more and the earth is restored to his original purpose of a paradise for all peace loving people we are on our own and are 100% responsible for our actions and decisions when we oppose his counsel and instructions on how to live and treat one another.

      it is contrary to everything documented about a peace loving god that all the attrocities we witnesed in this century are tied  his will somehow.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Good morning geo,

        Knowing that you like taking off much more than landing, it is a scary thought indeed,lol
        I’m glad, in this case, You choose a “corkscrew descend” than nose dive.Still my long beard was defying gravity,lol.
        After reminding me of that flight, I don’t want to talk about religion or politics anymore because they r not fun,

    2. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      what you have raised here has been written volumes and volumes in islamic aqeedah and as you said it is not the right time nor place nor the person [i am no scholar] to dive into it. but since you have raised some points there, i cannot help but respond [as far as i am able to] briefly [as brief as i could] and then concentrate on the political stuff [as much as it is becoming hopeless].

      the way i see it is this [which seems logical and reasonble to me]…

      we have free choice, we choose what to eat , who to believe in, that we are all here by accident etc, God has given us free choice but it is a mistake to believe that our choice [a human choice] is the same as God’s choice-that God’s choosing for us is the same as our choosing for ourselves.

      i, as a muslim, believe that God is not like us, in any shape or form and His ‘Willing’ is not like our act of choosing.

       we know we have free choice/will and we don’t know what the future holds so when we choose, it’s a real choice unlike God who is not bound by past, present and future and wills things into existence with no motivation of external factors [as when humans do the ‘willing/choosing”]. So God knows what we choose and what we will choose and He faciliates that.

      but God’s plan for us can be changed, it is not a fixed will/plan. from our point of vew-as humans, we feel that we can change God’s will/mashi2atillah [because we have free choice/will]. we do that through our actions, our choices, our supplications. but…….the knowledge of that change in plan was already known by God.

      From our point of view, as humans, it’s a choice [since we don’t know what the future holds]…this is how we will be judged-if we knew the future consequences of our choices, then it would no longer be a test.

      yet from God’s prespective who exist outside of time and space, our actions and their consequences exist in His Knowledge that has no end and no begining, His ‘Qadaa’”, which is different from His “Qadar”which is His bringing into existence those events in accordance with that knowledge.

      also, as i believe God creates everything. Good, evil and everything in between so to speak.

      God creates the ability for the action to be committed, that it can only happen with His Will etc. it does not mean that the action is forced unto man. Man still has free will to decide to do an action or not.

      what’s important here is
      1- God has power over everything. nothing can happen independent of Him
      2-Cannot compare our choosing with God’s choosing
      3-We have ‘limited free’ choice/will in the realm for which we are accountable for.

  9. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    antar2011, I don’t mean to be a pain in the A$$, but Your statement “but our choice does not go beyond Allah’s Will…..we get to choose and our choice is what Allah willed for us in the first place…”is open for different ,and dangerous interpretations.
    I usually avoid discussion of religion and its interpretation, because I’m not an expert on the subject. But I feel the need to make a point despite my modest knowledge. I know one thing for sure, Religion and its interpretations has to make sense and has to pass logical tests.
    I gather that “Allah’s will” is the english translation to the term “mashiat alah”. . I don’t think you mean to say that “mashiat alah”means that if you are to make wrong choices, you do so because Alah shaa laka(wants you to ,or guided you to) to make such choices which could be very evil and destructive to you and others. I think the right interpretation of “God’s will” is that God gives you the will and ability to choose, but those choices are not forced upon you by God.
    If someone becomes a victim, People would say that it is mashiat alah (God’s will), in this case, it does not mean that God choose for you to be a victim, it is destiny. That is why God, in all of his books (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism), talks about people who have been wronged in life, and about people who choose to wrong others. massiat alah(God’s will) cannot be interpreted as God’s choice for someone to wrong others, and others to be wrong at the same time.
    Human choose to do wrong (or right), and it’s the destiny of others to be wronged and victimized.
    In your other comment, you say:” if some pple claim they are following Allah’s right Path but in fact they have no clue what Alla’s Path is. ..That’s somthing i am finding myself repeating often.”
    Which means that people can misinterpret what “God’s will” or mashiat alah, really mean, and in this case, misinterpretation of “Allah’s right path” can lead people to make the wrong choices, and attribute their choices, and the results thereafter, to God’s will.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      And that, Prophet, is the same as saying ‘the devil made me do it.’. No?

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Exactly,In modern laws, we have ” temporary insanity” also.Not getting into the devil tunnel because I may not be able to navigate my way out.lol.

    2. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      hello prophet,

       the subject of the will of god is confusing and uncomfortable for many. here is my assessment, when you were flying with me recently  suppose  i decided to put the plane in a nose dive straight into the ground because your beard is too long lol, would that  be the will of god?  NO but the will of crazy geo.

      many god fearing people feel that it is blasphemous and arrogant to say they are going to do something unless they disclaim god willing first  but fail to understand that gods non negotiable iminent will is for the long term plan for mankind  but untill the devil is no more and the earth is restored to his original purpose of a paradise for all peace loving people we are on our own and are 100% responsible for our actions and decisions when we oppose his counsel and instructions on how to live and treat one another.

      it is contrary to everything documented about a peace loving god that all the attrocities we witnesed in this century are tied  his will somehow.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Good morning geo,

        Knowing that you like taking off much more than landing, it is a scary thought indeed,lol
        I’m glad, in this case, You choose a “corkscrew descend” than nose dive.Still my long beard was defying gravity,lol.
        After reminding me of that flight, I don’t want to talk about religion or politics anymore because they r not fun,

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Hahahhahaahaa . Hmmmm … Science took over. 😉
          It was the gravity of the situation which proved the truth. Man wasn’t meant to fly. 😉

    3. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      what you have raised here has been written volumes and volumes in islamic aqeedah and as you said it is not the right time nor place to dive into it. but since you have raised some points there, i cannot help but respond briefly [as brief as i could] and then concentrate on the political stuff [as much as it is becoming hopeless].

      the way i see it is this [which seems logical and reasonble to me]…

      we have free choice, we choose what to eat , who to believe in, that we are all here by accident etc, God has given us free choice but it is a mistake to believe that our choice [a human choice] is the same as God’s choice-that Allah’s choosing for us is the same as our choosing for ourselves.

      we believe that Allah is not like us, in any shape or form and His ‘Willing’ is not like our act of choosing.

       we know we have free choice/will and we don’t know what the future holds so when we choose, it’s a real choice unlike God who is not bound by past, present and future and wills things into existence with no motivation of external factors [as when humans do the ‘willing/choosing”]. So God knows what we choose and what we will choose and He faciliates that.

      but Allah’s plan for us can be changed, it is not a fixed will/plan. from our point of vew-as humans, we feel that we can change God’s will/mashi2atillah [because we have free choice/will]. we do that through our actions, our choices, our supplications. but…….the knowledge of that change in plan was already known by God.

      From our point of view, it’s a choice [since we don’t know what the future holds]…this is how we will be judged-if we knew the future consequences of our choices, then it would no longer be a test.

      yet from God’s prespective who exist outside of time and space, our actions and their consequences exist in His Knowledge that has no end and no begining, His ‘Qadaa’”, which is different from His “Qadar”which is His bringing into existence those events in accordance with that knowledge.

      also, as we believe Allah creates everything. Good, evil and everything in between so to speak.

      Allah creates the ability for the action to be committed, that it can only happen with His Will etc. it does not mean that the action is forced unto man. Man still has free will to decide to do an action or not.

      what’s important here is
      1- Allah has power over everything. nothing can happen independent of Him
      2-Cannot compare our choosing with God’s choosing
      3-We have ‘limited free’ choice/will in the realm for which we are accountable for.       

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