Fisk: Sectarian violence in Syria will continue, bloody civil war ahead

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In an interview, Robert Fisk describes the imminent collapse of Assad’s regime against armed opposition as “wishful thinking”, and that Assad’s fight for survival will create bloody civil war. The Syrian Opposition’s lack of definition and leadership have made it hard for the ‘West’ to act, and how treating Arab uprisings as the same will lead to grave mistakes – Syria’s uprising is very different from Tunisia, Egypt and the rest.

Paul Holmes

I spoke to Robert Fisk, Middle East expert, Middle East historian, author and columnist with Britain’s Independent newspaper, in Beirut, and I asked him about that suicide bombing overnight and the troops said to be massing outside Damascus. What did he make of it?

Robert Fisk

Well, I think that the terrible blood-letting in Syria is going to continue. Um, it’s going to carry on. We’ve got a situation of near civil war between the regime and the people, and it’s going to continue. It’s a terrible thing, because the Syrians don’t want a civil war, but the regime, which is effectively an Alawite, um, Shiite dominated regime, uh, which asks the Christians and Jews to be their supporters – which they are, in effect, tragically – um, are effectively fighting the mass of the Sunni Muslim regime – or the Sunni Muslim group, who are the majority in Syria. And it’s a great tragedy in that we are seeing in a secular nation a sectarian war. And the Syrian war is going to continue. But I would say one thing – that, you know, people say Assad is about to collapse, because he’s horrible and nasty and he uses torture – which is true. I think we are being the victims of wish fulfilment. I’m not sure the regime will collapse that quickly. I’m not sure that the regime was going to collapse as swiftly as we think against the armed opposition. I’m not at all sure that things are going to follow the way in which our leaders, our Western leaders, are going to claim.

I don’t think the Bashar Assad regime is going to collapse soon. People who say it’s on the way of going, that Homs is the Benghazi of Syria – this is rubbish. The regime in Syria is very tough and very, um, repressive and knows how to repress people.

Holmes

So, does Assad have any desire for reform, and could he do so even if he wanted? I mean, these emails the other day, the emails between him and his wife indicate a kind of a terrible disconnect between them and the rest of the country. So does he want reform?

Fisk

Well, you know, I have a feeling- I first met Bashar Assad and his wife just after his father died of a heart attack, um, 12 years ago, and I got the impression then that he really wanted to change Syria. His wife is not a stupid woman. She’s been accused of being Lady Macbeth, Marie Antoinette, etc, etc. This is trial journalism She is a tough, ruthless woman, but she’s not stupid, and nor is her husband. I think that the problem is that, you see, Bashar al-Assad wants a new Syria. I think he genuinely wants it. But he can’t move it forward at the speed that it needs You know, in other words, the end of the Ba’ath party, the beginning of democracy. And he is faced with a situation where if he pushes for the kind of democracy he envisages, or perhaps does – let’s not give him too much credit. Um, therefore there will be a revolution against him. A corrective revolution against corrective revolution. If you’re Syrian, you’ll understand what I mean. Um, and I think that he can’t do that, and I think he feels that the best he can do is to just fight on. And I think he’s wrong. I don’t think the Bashar Assad regime is going to collapse soon. People who say it’s on the way of going, that Homs is the Benghazi of Syria – this is rubbish. The regime in Syria is very tough and very, um, repressive and knows how to repress people. And I think it will continue for quite a long time to come. I’m sorry to say, but I think it will.

Holmes

So, you don’t sound optimistic about the West being able to do anything or wanting to do anything. Do you think the West is going to do something? Or is it maybe already too late? That he’s quashing everything?

When people lose their fear, they can never get their fear back. And this is what has happened in Tunisia, in Yemen, in Libya, in Egypt, and is what is happening now, today, in Syria.

Fisk

I’ll tell you frankly. Just before Christmas I was invited to do an interview on Syrian state television with me, which I did much against my better wishes and better thoughts. And I was asked what was the future of the Assad regime, which is effectively what you’re asking me. And I said Bashar al-Assad is running out of time very fast, and you can no longer infantilise the people. You can no longer make them feel they’re little children going to school and if they disobey the rules, they’ll be taken away by the headmaster and beaten by the secret police or killed. And I made this point, and I said to Syrian television, ‘If you censor what I say, I’m going to repeat what you censor in my newspaper.’ And I came back to Beirut here where I’m speaking to you tonight, and I… (LAUGHS) I turned on my television. Of course, we can see Syrian television here. And there was me, and they ran it without a change because they wanted to let their people know that time was running out for the regime. Now, there’s something very interesting in that because, you see, they wanted to let the people know that the regime wanted change, but the question is does the regime of Bashar al-Assad really want change, or does it want a change in a picture? You know, like, ‘We would like to have a change, but maybe next year.’ And this is the big question.

Holmes

Hillary Clinton and the American Defence Secretary, Leon Panetta, the difficulty they face with Syria is that they don’t really know who this Syrian opposition is. They haven’t kind of identified anyone particularly of any strength whom they should help. Do you agree?

Fisk

Yes, I agree 101%. I was talking last night in Qatar. I go to Qatar regularly because they are ‘running the opposition’. Because Qatar wants to harm Iran like Saudi Arabia does. They don’t want democracy in Syria. They want to have the overthrow of Iran’s best friend in the Arab world, who is Bashar al-Assad. Now, let’s go back to that. I said to them, ‘What do you want? What is it you’re wanting?’ What the people of Syria want is dignity and justice. Dignity and justice. They want to feel they own their own country. And they feel that Assad believes he owns his own country, like Mubarak thought he was the owner of Egypt and Ben Ali was the owner of Tunisia. This is preposterous, ridiculous, stupid. But that’s what they thought. The great crisis and tragedy in Syria is 1) that the government does not realise that the people want dignity and 2) that in fighting to preserve themselves, the regime will produce a civil war which will kill, with great bloodshed, so many people, which is a terrible tragedy for Syria itself. We talk all the time about Haram, you know, the regime is killing the people. Yes, but we don’t talk about the actual bloodshed in Syria itself, which is most terrible and which we should be thinking about.

Holmes

Does the world care enough about Syria? I only ask that question because, unlike during the spring in Cairo, the social media round the world has not really embraced the Syrian cause. That’s why I ask that, that’s all.

Fisk

Yeah, I enjoy your stepping back from the question. I think the Syrians whom I meet in Beirut – and I go to Damascus still. I can still enter. I think the Syrians are appalled at the lack of historical knowledge of us Westerners. I think also, you know, they know what happened in Egypt and Tunisia. But I always say in my newspaper articles and indeed when I talk to New Zealand, Egypt was not Tunisia. Bahrain was not Egypt. Libya was not Bahrain. And Syria is not Libya. Every Arab country is different. But what you have here is a country, Syria, whose nationalist idea which was encompassed in the Ba’athist idea, and your Syrian-Australian viewers will know what I’m talking about. Um, the idea that there’s a nationalist centre of Syria is very strong, and you can’t just brush it off the desk and throw it away, because so many people want to overthrow Bashar al-Assad. Um, what we have to do, if we want to be honest – I try to be honest as a journalist – is to say to the regimes, like Bashar al-Assad – and I met Bashar al-Assad, I met Asma, his wife, who is a fine lady – is you have to deal with the reality, not the reality of 20 years ago, but now. And you must stop killing your people. Because at the end of the day, the situation is very simple: if you treat your people as infantiles, as children, where if you go to school and you offend the headmaster, you go to the police station and you are beaten and killed, is over. When people lose their fear, they can never get their fear back. And this is what has happened in Tunisia, in Yemen, in Libya, in Egypt, and is what is happening now, today, in Syria.

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25 responses to “Fisk: Sectarian violence in Syria will continue, bloody civil war ahead”

  1. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    i take what robert fisk with a grain of salt.
    this man who is known for his total support for any revolution against any regime [used to and still does really praise Hizbollah] wrote an article before the revolution that syrians like their leader very much and that a revolution will not happe there….uh oh guess what? there is a revolution…

    i hope this time too you will be prooven wrong and in a matter of few months the butcher will go.

    is it me or is this Fisk man trying to paint a humane picture to the butcher?!…..aal he wants reform aal.

    this fisk is saying the reform is slow……what reform? is it good enough just to have intentions of reform?…Bashaar has not done any reform since he was put in power…none…i meant political reform….simply because he does nto want to.

    it is time that Rober fisk realise that Bashaar is a lier.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Well Antar … what I see in this is:
      Fisk:
       ‘Um, um … You know, like … um, um … but I think … um … I’m not sure … um …. I’m not at all sure …. um … the actual bloodshed is most terrible … um … dignity and justice (oh that sounded good …use it) um … Dignity and justice. Um … Syrian-Australian viewers will know what I’m talking about … um, um, … I agree 101% … like … um.’

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        lol um um um tsk fisk tsk fisk… What is this a bird?

        1. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          We need geo’s expert   opinion on whether this is a bird or not,lol

      2. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        lol confused as ever eh?

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Well Antar … what I see in this is:
      Fisk:
       ‘Um, um … You know, like … um, um … but I think … um … I’m not sure … um …. I’m not at all sure …. um … the actual bloodshed is most terrible … um … dignity and justice (oh that sounded good …use it) um … Dignity and justice. Um … Syrian-Australian viewers will know what I’m talking about … um, um, … I agree 101% … like … um.’

  2. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    i take what robert fisk with a grain of salt.
    this man who is known for his total support for any revolution against any regime [used to and still does really praise Hizbollah] wrote an article before the revolution that syrians like their leader very much and that a revolution will not happe there….uh oh guess what? there is a revolution…

    i hope this time too you will be prooven wrong and in a matter of few months the butcher will go.

    is it me or is this Fisk man trying to paint a humane picture to the butcher?!…..aal he wants reform aal.

    this fisk is saying the reform is slow……what reform? is it good enough just to have intentions of reform?…Bashaar has not done any reform since he was put in power…none…i meant political reform….simply because he does nto want to.

    it is time that Rober fisk realise that Bashaar is a lier.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Well Antar … what I see in this is:
      Fisk:
       ‘Um, um … You know, like … um, um … but I think … um … I’m not sure … um …. I’m not at all sure …. um … the actual bloodshed is most terrible … um … dignity and justice (oh that sounded good …use it) um … Dignity and justice. Um … Syrian-Australian viewers will know what I’m talking about … um, um, … I agree 101%’

      1. lol um um um tsk fisk tsk fisk… What is this a bird?

        1. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          We need geo’s expert   opinion on whether this is a bird or not,lol

      2. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        lol confused as ever eh?

  3. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Whether one is fan of R. Fisk or not, whether agrees with his support for revolutions around the world or not, whether one shares his liberal views or not, one has to admit that his honesty  and objectivity is unquestionable.
    The, yet another bomb explosion in the city of Allepo, followed by the twin suicide bombers which hit Damascus, proves every word He said about where this conflict is heading,and what awaits the Syrian people.More killing by the regime, which is fighting for survival at any cost, and more killing by the extremist who are willing to destroy everything in order to topple Assad and his regime,and in turn bring Syria back to middle ages. 
    What is missing is the dignity of the Syrian people, the future of the Syrian people, democracy and freedom of expression for   Syrian people.Neither the regime,nor the extremist opposition has any intention to provide these things for Syrian people,and definitely non of the Arab dictators who support the extremists have either.As for western countries, It goes without saying that they don’t care about Syrian people or their freedom.
    Call me whatever you wish, I agree with Fisk that Assad and his regime are not going away any time soon,at least not by a extremist militant opposition.By the time He’s out, there won’t be much left for Syrian to enjoy except more sectarian killing,and suicidal bomber who are buying tickets to their ” Heaven”.

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      gee man you know how to crush a party eh?here i was trying to be optimistic but…..

      don’t get me wrong, i support some of his views but not all. i too support the need for resistence in times of injustice but the way the resistance expresses itself changes depending at the time the determines the best to serve its interests. Fisk disagrees with this. he still think Hizbollah’s resistence is a genuine one against the zionist regime… he also supported the role of the syrian Assad because he was part of this ‘moomana3a and mouqawameh” shit they drilled into the heads of pple…ignoring all the mal practices of both hizbollah and Syrian Assad during their history…..i cannot take stance. i am sorry.

      as for the syrian revolution, i hope that in the same way fisk was proven wrong that there won’t be a revolution in syria, he will also be proven wrong and we see the end of the butcher soon….of course that’s hope from my part…hope.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        antar2011, sorry to crush your party, Prophets are supposed to tell you the truth, and the truth is disappointing most of the time. Pardon my dry humor.lol
        Robert Fisk isn’t always right, and not everything He advocates is righteous, but I believe He is right on this one. The signs are written all over the walls and billboard that Syria is heading into civil wars which will be championed by extremists who has as little respect to human life as the Assad regime, and there will be no winner ,regardless of who wins this battle or that.
        This uprising needs to be taken back by Syrian people, the people who went out in force and were about to crack the Syrian regime, until the external opposition, along with extremists took charge. Once they did that, they played right into the hands of the regime. Both the regime and the opposition need to evaluate their actions and positions, and understand that continuation of this military conflict will not give either side what they seek. The reliance of the opposition on foreign assistance takes everything away from patriotism, especially when those supporting the opposition and its desire for freedom and democracy are as oppressive as the one they trying to remove.They can’t give what they do not have.
        On the other hand, the regime needs to understand that there is a limitation to what killing, oppression and crushing can do. Gone are the times where a dictator can crush the aspiration of his own people, and gone are the days where a regime can buy its people by some openness here and there. This regime will go,not soon enough and not by force, but what Syrian people need and deserve is a good alternative where their country is intact, their integrity is respected, and their future is on the right track. The alternative being promised, as of now, is a back word people who are being supported by backward dictators who just happened to have enough petro dollars to buy more time than Assad.
        Neither suicide bombers and planting bombs, nor sectarian provocations by the extremists can bring democracy and dignity to the Syrian people.
        You can hope and wish as much as you like, but at the end, you will realize that wishful thinking is nothing but wishful thinking. It’s time to stop that and start some thoughtful wishes. Wishes are one thing, reality is something else. Lebanese people have been living an illusion of wishful thinking for years. We have yet to learn, and it’s unfortunate that we can’t learn from our mistakes, and worse, is that we are advising the Syrians to do what we have done over and over, with worse results each time.
        I have been trying to explain my views to this community for over a year, and I have been consistent in my reading of the Syrian situation. I get accused of many things because my views and evaluations are not in line with those who are emotional about the Syrian situation.
        I promise to be more considerate and sensitive when presenting my views, and maybe remind people less often.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          agree with u= Robert Fisk is not right all the time

          agree with u= Syria is heading to a civil war

          disagree with you=extremist took over the revolution [it’s still the same pple behind the computer screens who is driving this revolution…they haven’t changed]

          disagree with you=the regime was about to crack until the external opposition, along with extremists took charge [the same pple, or whoever remained alive are still demonstrating every day and especially on a Friday and last week saw uprecedent number demonstrating especially in Al Reqqa area where the regime still have not done a Homs/Rastan/Zabadani/Idlib manouver] 

          the uprising is now in its 13 months, the revolutionnaries have not asked for outside help until the butcher have stepped up his shower of bullets and bombs. y wouldn’t they ask for help when they are being slaughtered and bombed without mercy while they have nothing worthy at hand to defend themselves…if you were in their place you would do the same. u probably would say, it si my right to ask for help while i see my family and homes are being demolished to zero.

          disagree= the regime needs to understand…..you have not realised yet that this regime understands nothing….nothing except killing and more killing…it spend more then 40 yrs on this logic whywould it change now?….killing, torture, rape, theft…you name it has been this regime’s life they can’t stop that all of a sudden and pretend they care for other’s lives or opinion…that’s why the many attempts of deplomacy to end the violance has failed. ya 3ammi this regime does nto believe in an oppositio let alone to do a dialogue with it.

          disagree=the alternative are backward pple being supported by backward regime.
          those “backwards’ pple you talk about have clearly stated that they want a democratic syria where every sect is represented. those ‘backward” pple are wanting exactly what you would like to see in lebanon, freedom, honour and dignity for lebanon and the lebanese….since the start of this uprising, they did not call for anythign else…..why is it okay for us as lebanese to have it and not them?is it because of that beard they carry?….why does that beard scary many pple…..i wish pple would look beyond that beard and losten to what these pple are saying you will realise they are saying the same thing  everyone who believes in freedom and democracy is.
          As for the backward regime supporting these pple…….i am sorry but where is that support the revolutionnaries are getting?….all they are getting is talk and talk and more talk…..only recently have the Saudis helped with money to buy arms that is yet to arrive.
          on the other hand, whatever help the oppositio is getting does nto compare to the help of theRussians, irani regime and Hizbollah to the butcher to keep him going.

          if you are going to talk about outside help then you will realise that the butcher is no angel…which makes arming the opposition even more correct.

          disagree= wishful thinking is nothing more then wishful thinking…..
          gee man you don’t believe in hope coming true? what is a human being without hope?

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        antar,2011
        I believe in hope and my only hope at this point is that you are right and I’m wrong.
        Each one of us presented his analysis and views on this subject more than once. It would make no difference to rebuttal every point you disagreed with me on, because you seem to have lots of hope, and many wishes, and I won’t criticize you for basing your readings and prediction on hopes and wishes. I would, however, ask you to remember this exchange in the future, and hopefully we remind each other of what we both predicted. I hope I’m proven wrong because that would mean less Syrian victims, fewer tragedies, and more hope for the Syrian people. It would also mean more stability for Lebanon and the entire region. My fears are real, and well justified, and your agreement with me on the upcoming Syrian civil war pretty much proves most of what I had feared.
        tc.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          fair enough bro.

          but miracles can happen…
          inshaAllah soon.
          T C 2.

  4. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Whether one is fan of R. Fisk or not, whether agrees with his support for revolutions around the world or not, whether one shares his liberal views or not, one has to admit that his honesty  and objectivity is unquestionable.
    The, yet another bomb explosion in the city of Allepo, followed by the twin suicide bombers which hit Damascus, proves every word He said about where this conflict is heading,and what awaits the Syrian people.More killing by the regime, which is fighting for survival at any cost, and more killing by the extremist who are willing to destroy everything in order to topple Assad and his regime,and in turn bring Syria back to middle ages. 
    What is missing is the dignity of the Syrian people, the future of the Syrian people, democracy and freedom of expression for   Syrian people.Neither the regime,nor the extremist opposition has any intention to provide these things for Syrian people,and definitely non of the Arab dictators who support the extremists have either.As for western countries, It goes without saying that they don’t care about Syrian people or their freedom.
    Call me whatever you wish, I agree with Fisk that Assad and his regime are not going away any time soon,at least not by a extremist militant opposition.By the time He’s out, there won’t be much left for Syrian to enjoy except more sectarian killing,and suicidal bomber who are buying tickets to their ” Heaven”.

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      gee man you know how to crush a party eh?here i was trying to be optimistic but…..

      don’t get me wrong, i support some of his views but not all. i too support the need for resistence in times of injustice but the way the resistance expresses itself changes depending at the time the determines the best to serve its interests. Fisk disagrees with this. he still think Hizbollah’s resistence is a genuine one against the zionist regime… he also supported the role of the syrian Assad because he was part of this ‘moomana3a and mouqawameh” shit they drilled into the heads of pple…ignoring all the mal practices of both hizbollah and Syrian Assad during their history…..i cannot take stance. i am sorry.

      as for the syrian revolution, i hope that in the same way fisk was proven wrong that there won’t be a revolution in syria, he will also be proven wrong and we see the end of the butcher soon….of course that’s hope from my part…hope.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        antar2011, sorry to crush your party, Prophets are supposed to tell you the truth, and the truth is disappointing most of the time. Pardon my dry humor.lol
        Robert Fisk isn’t always right, and not everything He advocates is righteous, but I believe He is right on this one. The signs are written all over the walls and billboard that Syria is heading into civil wars which will be championed by extremists who has as little respect to human life as the Assad regime, and there will be no winner ,regardless of who wins this battle or that.
        This uprising needs to be taken back by Syrian people, the people who went out in force and were about to crack the Syrian regime, until the external opposition, along with extremists took charge. Once they did that, they played right into the hands of the regime. Both the regime and the opposition need to evaluate their actions and positions, and understand that continuation of this military conflict will not give either side what they seek. The reliance of the opposition on foreign assistance takes everything away from patriotism, especially when those supporting the opposition and its desire for freedom and democracy are nothing but as oppressive as the one they trying to remove. On the other hand, the regime needs to understand that there is a limitation to what killing, oppression and crushing can do. Gone are the times where a dictator can crush the aspiration of his own people, and gone are the days where a regime can buy its people by some openness here and there. This regime will go, but what Syrian people need and deserve is a good alternative where their country is intact, their integrity is respected, and their future is on the right track. The alternative being promised, as of now, is a back word people who are being supported by backward dictators who just happened to have enough petro dollars to buy more time than Assad.
        Neither suicide bombers and planting bombs, nor sectarian provocations by the extremists can bring democracy and dignity to the Syrian people.
        You can hope and wish as much as you like, but at the end, you will realize that wishful thinking is nothing but wishful thinking. It’s time to stop that and start some thoughtful wishes. Wishes are one thing, reality is something else. Lebanese people have been living an illusion of wishful thinking for years. We have yet to learn, and it’s unfortunate that we can’t learn from our mistakes, and worse, is that we are advising the Syrians to do what we have done over and over, with worse results each time.
        I have been trying to explain my views to this community for over a year, and I have been consistent in my reading of the Syrian situation. I get accused of many things because my views and evaluations are not in line with those who are emotional about the Syrian situation.
        I promise to be more considerate and sensitive when presenting my views, and maybe remind people less often.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          agree with u= Robert Fisk is not right all the time

          agree with u= Syria is heading to a civil war

          disagree with you=extremist took over the revolution [it’s still the same pple behind the computer screens who is driving this revolution…they haven’t changed]

          disagree with you=the regime was about to crack until the external opposition, along with extremists took charge [the same pple, or whoever remained alive are still demonstrating every day and especially on a Friday and last week saw uprecedent number demonstrating especially in Al Reqqa area where the regime still have not done a Homs/Rastan/Zabadani/Idlib manouver] 

          the uprising is now in its 13 months, the revolutionnaries have not asked for outside help until the butcher have stepped up his shower of bullets and bombs. y wouldn’t they ask for help when they are being slaughtered and bombed without mercy while they have nothing worthy at hand to defend themselves…if you were in their place you would do the same. u probably would say, it si my right to ask for help while i see my family and homes are being demolished to zero.

          disagree= the regime needs to understand…..you have not realised yet that this regime understands nothing….nothing except killing and more killing…it spend more then 40 yrs on this logic whywould it change now?….killing, torture, rape, theft…you name it has been this regime’s life they can’t stop that all of a sudden and pretend they care for other’s lives or opinion…that’s why the many attempts of deplomacy to end the violance has failed. ya 3ammi this regime does nto believe in an oppositio let alone to do a dialogue with it.

          disagree=the alternative are backward pple being supported by backward regime.
          those “backwards’ pple you talk about have clearly stated that they want a democratic syria where every sect is represented. those ‘backward” pple are wanting exactly what you would like to see in lebanon, freedom, honour and dignity for lebanon and the lebanese….since the start of this uprising, they did not call for anythign else…..why is it okay for us as lebanese to have it and not them?is it because of that beard they carry?….why does that beard scary many pple…..i wish pple would look beyond that beard and losten to what these pple are saying you will realise they are saying the same thing  everyone who believes in freedom and democracy is.
          As for the backward regime supporting these pple…….i am sorry but where is that support the revolutionnaries are getting?….all they are getting is talk and talk and more talk…..only recently have the Saudis helped with money to buy arms that is yet to arrive.
          on the other hand, whatever help the oppositio is getting does nto compare to the help of the irani regime and Hizbollah to the butcher to keep him going.

          if you are going to talk about outside help then you will realise that the butcher is no angel…which makes arming the opposition even more correct.

          disagree= wishful thinking is nothing more then wishful thinking…..
          gee ma you don’t believe in hope coming true? what is a human being without hope? 

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        antar,2011
        I believe in hope and my only hope at this point is that you are right and I’m wrong.
        Each one of us presented his analysis and views on this subject more than once. It would make no difference to rebuttal every point you disagreed with me on, because you seem to have lots of hope, and many wishes, and I won’t criticize you for basing your readings and prediction on hopes and wishes. I would, however, ask you to remember this exchange in the future, and hopefully we remind each other of what we both predicted. I hope I’m proving wrong because that would mean less Syrian victims, fewer tragedies, and more hope for the Syrian people. It would also mean more stability for Lebanon and the entire region. My fears are real, and well justified, and your agreement with me on the upcoming Syrian civil war pretty much proves most of what I had feared.
        tc.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          fair enough bro.

          but miracles can happen…
          inshaAllah soon.
          T C 2.

  5. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    fisk is right ; the civil war in syria had reached a point of no return , weaopons had been smuggled in to the syrian people from all around the arabic countries ,jordan,lebanon , turkey ,iraq  all surrendered syria , and saudi arabia paying bilions of dollars to support the opposisition pay for all thos weapons and cost , saudis,and quatar want to overthrow the syrian rgeme at any cost , both coutries  are ruled by sunnis , they could,t stand syria,s alawit regeme ruling sunnis in syria and killing sunnis , they love to see assad goes at any cost ,  but without international military intervention , assad digging inn for a long time and the civil war in syria will explodes ,  and may last for years similar to what happened in lebanon .

  6. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    fisk is right ; the civil war in syria had reached a point of no return , weaopons had been smuggled in to the syrian people from all around the arabic countries ,jordan,lebanon , turkey ,iraq  all surrendered syria , and saudi arabia paying bilions of dollars to support the opposisition pay for all thos weapons and cost , saudis,and quatar want to overthrow the syrian rgeme at any cost , both coutries  are ruled by sunnis , they could,t stand syria,s alawit regeme ruling sunnis in syria and killing sunnis , they love to see assad goes at any cost ,  but without international military intervention , assad digging inn for a long time and the civil war in syria will explodes ,  and may last for years similar to what happened in lebanon .

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