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Israel to build a wall along border with Lebanon

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Israeli military officials plan to build a new wall on the country’s northern ceasefire line with Lebanon, Israeli media reported on Monday.

An official in Israel’s northern command told Hebrew daily Yedioth Ahronoth that the 5-meter high (16′ 5″) and 1-kilometer (.63 miles) long wall will be equipped with alarms and separate Israeli kibbutz al-Matala and Lebanese village Kafr Kala which lie near to each other.

The wall, the first of its kind along the frontier with Lebanon, will be planned in the coming days and building will start in a few weeks, the newspaper said.

Israel’s army has requested the UN peacekeeping force stationed in the ceasefire zone to coordinate with Lebanon in order to prevent clashes.

The border between Israel and Lebanon is disputed by the two sides and the UN-drawn “Blue Line” covers just part of the stretch, established in 2000 to determine whether Israel had withdrawn from Lebanon after its 1982 invasion.

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Photo: Israel through the fence near Fatima’s Gate in south Lebanon

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83 responses to “Israel to build a wall along border with Lebanon”

  1. persepoliswarrior Avatar
    persepoliswarrior

    Good for Israel!  I think they are fed up with all these radical groups trying to threaten and destroy her beautiful nation which is a pearl in the Middle East in the midst of Arab nations that are filled with ignorance, poverty, hypocrisy, hatred, and radicalism.  

    1. Crossed Avatar
      Crossed

      A pearl? It’s a racist, terror breading country with no respect for human life or international law. A large portion of it’s population (settlers) deny the Palestinian’s right to exist. Is that a pearl to you?

      1. persepoliswarrior Avatar
        persepoliswarrior

        yes a pearl indeed!  The only people with no respect for human life are the Palestinian mothers who have ten kids with the dream that at least one of them will be a “martyr” for blowing himself up and killing as many Israeli civilians around him (or her) as possible.

        Despite being attacked by her neighbors since the rebirth of the Jewish homeland in 1948, Israel has defeated the odds and has ACTUALLY contributed to the world in many areas with numerous innovations.  What has her Arab neighbors done to contribute to the world in the past several decades other than promoting hatred and oppressing its own people under ruthless regimes (except Lebanon which we saw was capable of being a functioning society with a booming economy and thriving culture prior to 1975) . Proportionately, no other country can match Israel’s creativity and contributions to the world we live in.  In virtually every category, Israel has contributed to the world from chemistry, literature, medicine, physics, economics, internet, communication, technology, etc.  Just one example would be every time you turn on your mobile to take a picture or you use instant messaging, you are using an innovation from Israel. 
        Keep in mind, Israel has become a beacon of prosperity in the Middle East without having a drop of oil in her country.  Lebanon was also a beacon of prosperity and she also had not one drop of oil in her country.   This just goes to show that when you have intelligent, motivated people, your country can become anything.    If the Arab world was smart, they would actually try to learn from Israel and help improve their own countries. But no, they are too busy promoting anti-Jewish hatred on their media and in their schools.  They use them term “anti-Zionist” to disguise their hatred for Jewish self-determination in a part of the world they want to dominate. By targeting the Jewish nationalist movement (Zionism), they have a scapegoat for their own problems.  You know what is funny, most of the Israelis are actually Jews from Arab lands. The Arab world chased out some of its smartest people.  Unlike the Arab world, in Iran, we have embraced our Jewish community even under this screwed up government we currently have.  In fact, around 1950, about 20,000 Iraqi Jewish refugees were smuggled into Iran where they were given shelter while the Arab world (except Lebanon) basically declared war on its own Jewish populations.

        Crossed-  I ask you, do you even know what a Palestinian is?  Do you know the origin of this “nationality”?  If anyone actually knows history and truly reads between the lines, then he or she would know this Palestinian nationality was invented as an Arab nationalist attempt (hijacked by Radical Sunni Islamism) to eradicate the possibility of a Jewish majority country in the midst of the Sunni Muslim dominated Arab world.  Just look at map of the British controlled Palestine territory prior to 1923 (before trans-Jordan suddenly was invented as a region where Arabs in Palestine could have self-autonomy and have a piece of land free of any Jews)….these events, maps, and partitions speak history within themselves. Must I remind you the connection between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a big Arab nationalist, and his connection to Hitler during the 1940s. I recommend you watch this video titled “Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth Behind the West Bank”.  A prominent Israeli politician created this video which gives a brief historical overview that exposes the truth most of the world does not know.  The same truth the Arab regimes have desperately tried to hide from their own people. You might watch the video and then say “Zionist propaganda lies”.  But do yourself a favor and do humanity a favor and truly enlighten yourself.  When I first saw the video, I was shocked.  So researched on my own and found the facts were all true.  In fact, I used to believe that the Palestinian nationality had some sort of legitimacy until I actually did further research and looked at the history from long before 1948. Most people who take an entirely Pro-Palestinian stance in the Israeli-Arab conflict are usually misinformed or choose to ignore the real facts out of hatred for Jews.   I think many Arabs feel obligated to only sympathize and support Palestinians because they are fellow Sunni Muslims and Arabs so they are passionately anti-Israel even though the existence of Israel is corroborated by the Koran (it is the Arab propaganda machine that makes Muslims feel otherwise). But if the Sunni Muslim Arabs really cared so much about their fellow Muslims, then why have they been silent on other mass-scale genocides committed by fellow Sunni Muslims against Sunni Muslims.  Just look at DARFUR!!  Look at the atrocities the leadership in Khartoum has committed against black African Muslims in Sudan.  Close to 400,000 innocent civilians have been murdered and millions more have been physically displaced from their homeland and turned into refugees. Why is Arab media not showing this?? Why are so many Muslim Arabs silent?    It shows the hypocrisy in the Sunni Muslim Arab world.  Look how long it took for the Arab League to finally respond to the crisis in Syria….   If it were Israel, they would have been all over her the minute she fired one bullet.

      2. American Infidels Avatar
        American Infidels

        Facts please, and not some radicals ramblings on the subject

    2. Beiruti Avatar
      Beiruti

      The only Pearl in the Middle East was Lebanon and it will be one day again.

      1. persepoliswarrior Avatar
        persepoliswarrior

        of course Lebanon is a pearl but it has lost its shine due to politicians working for Khameini and Assad….I hope one day the true Lebanese take back their country from these Khameini agents.  

      2. plomca Avatar
        plomca

        Lebanon may be the Pearl, but with full of garbage. I visited Lebanon last year and was just amazed at all the trash laid out everywhere. Even by the ocean, their was so much garbage. It was like Lebanon was just one big garbage dump. Can the Lebanese just throw their trash in the can, instead out on the street?

        Maybe Israel is building the wall, so the trash in Lebanon won’t blow over into their country.

        1. Beiruti Avatar
          Beiruti

          Yes i know, pollution is one of our biggest problems. 

        2. Fadi81 Avatar
          Fadi81

          I almost got into a street fight with some assholes driving infront of us who dumped a bag of shit out their car window and most blew on our car…I lost my mind, my cousin says to me relax its normal, they all throw their shit out around here…well lets just say I didnt let it slide…Lebanon is full of animals, when I go back home the minute we turn onto the road to our village the streets are like night and day, so clean and the air so fresh, some people are just animals and others are stewards of the land and love their country and take pride in it…

        3. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          i have to agree, littering  freaks me out real bad but the most disturbing was visiting a pet store  anywhere in lebanon is nothing short of animal cruelty. lastly no awards are in order for courteous driving.

        4. Sebouh80 Avatar
          Sebouh80

          People are throwing animal parts and garbage to Lebanon’s rivers and this has polluted most of the country’s rivers which provide water for irrigation.

      3. plomca Avatar
        plomca

        Lebanon may be the Pearl, but with full of garbage. I visited Lebanon last year and was just amazed at all the trash laid out everywhere. Even by the ocean, their was so much garbage. It was like Lebanon was just one big garbage dump. Can the Lebanese just throw their trash in the can, instead out on the street?

        Maybe Israel is building the wall, so the trash in Lebanon won’t blow over into their country.

        1. Beiruti Avatar
          Beiruti

          Yes i know, pollution is one of our biggest problems. 

      4. master09 Avatar
        master09

        Yes Lebanon is beautiful but the people in it ,well not sure ????? .Let  me tell you I am Lebanese and have been to Isreal and it is a pearl as well. Why can’t we live together side by side or will we be doing this hate thing forever……………. I hope you are rite about Lebanon changing again to be the pearl it was…

      5. master09 Avatar
        master09

        Yes Lebanon is beautiful but the people in it ,well not sure ????? .Let  me tell you I am Lebanese and have been to Isreal and it is a pearl as well. Why can’t we live together side by side or will we be doing this hate thing forever……………. I hope you are rite about Lebanon changing again to be the pearl it was…

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Good for Israel!  I think they are fed up with all these radical groups trying to threaten and destroy her beautiful nation which is a pearl in the Middle East in the midst of Arab nations that are filled with ignorance, poverty, hypocrisy, hatred, and radicalism.  

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      A pearl? It’s a racist, terror breading country with no respect for human life or international law. A large portion of it’s population (settlers) deny the Palestinian’s right to exist. Is that a pearl to you?

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        yes a pearl indeed!  The only people with no respect for human life are the Palestinian mothers who have ten kids with the dream that at least one of them will be a “martyr” for blowing himself up and killing as many Israeli civilians around him (or her) as possible.

        Despite being attacked by her neighbors since the rebirth of the Jewish homeland in 1948, Israel has defeated the odds and has ACTUALLY contributed to the world in many areas with numerous innovations.  What has her Arab neighbors done to contribute to the world in the past several decades other than promoting hatred and oppressing its own people under ruthless regimes (except Lebanon which we saw was capable of being a functioning society with a booming economy and thriving culture prior to 1975) . Proportionately, no other country can match Israel’s creativity and contributions to the world we live in.  In virtually every category, Israel has contributed to the world from chemistry, literature, medicine, physics, economics, internet, communication, technology, etc.  Just one example would be every time you turn on your mobile to take a picture or you use instant messaging, you are using an innovation from Israel. 
        Keep in mind, Israel has become a beacon of prosperity in the Middle East without having a drop of oil in her country.  Lebanon was also a beacon of prosperity and she also had not one drop of oil in her country.   This just goes to show that when you have intelligent, motivated people, your country can become anything.    If the Arab world was smart, they would actually try to learn from Israel and help improve their own countries. But no, they are too busy promoting anti-Jewish hatred on their media and in their schools.  They use them term “anti-Zionist” to disguise their hatred for Jewish self-determination in a part of the world they want to dominate. By targeting the Jewish nationalist movement (Zionism), they have a scapegoat for their own problems.  You know what is funny, most of the Israelis are actually Jews from Arab lands. The Arab world chased out some of its smartest people.  Unlike the Arab world, in Iran, we have embraced our Jewish community even under this screwed up government we currently have.  In fact, around 1950, about 20,000 Iraqi Jewish refugees were smuggled into Iran where they were given shelter while the Arab world (except Lebanon) basically declared war on its own Jewish populations.

        Crossed-  I ask you, do you even know what a Palestinian is?  Do you know the origin of this “nationality”?  If anyone actually knows history and truly reads between the lines, then he or she would know this Palestinian nationality was invented as an Arab nationalist attempt (hijacked by Radical Sunni Islamism) to eradicate the possibility of a Jewish majority country in the midst of the Sunni Muslim dominated Arab world.  Just look at map of the British controlled Palestine territory prior to 1923 (before trans-Jordan suddenly was invented as a region where Arabs in Palestine could have self-autonomy and have a piece of land free of any Jews)….these events, maps, and partitions speak history within themselves. Must I remind you the connection between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a big Arab nationalist, and his connection to Hitler during the 1940s. I recommend you watch this video titled “Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth Behind the West Bank”.  A prominent Israeli politician created this video which gives a brief historical overview that exposes the truth most of the world does not know.  The same truth the Arab regimes have desperately tried to hide from their own people. You might watch the video and then say “Zionist propaganda lies”.  But do yourself a favor and do humanity a favor and truly enlighten yourself.  When I first saw the video, I was shocked.  So researched on my own and found the facts were all true.  In fact, I used to believe that the Palestinian nationality had some sort of legitimacy until I actually did further research and looked at the history from long before 1948. Most people who take an entirely Pro-Palestinian stance in the Israeli-Arab conflict are usually misinformed or choose to ignore the real facts out of hatred for Jews.   I think many Arabs feel obligated to only sympathize and support Palestinians because they are fellow Sunni Muslims and Arabs so they are passionately anti-Israel even though the existence of Israel is corroborated by the Koran (it is the Arab propaganda machine that makes Muslims feel otherwise). But if the Sunni Muslim Arabs really cared so much about their fellow Muslims, then why have they been silent on other mass-scale genocides committed by fellow Sunni Muslims against Sunni Muslims.  Just look at DARFUR!!  Look at the atrocities the leadership in Khartoum has committed against black African Muslims in Sudan.  Close to 400,000 innocent civilians have been murdered and millions more have been physically displaced from their homeland and turned into refugees. Why is Arab media not showing this?? Why are so many Muslim Arabs silent?    It shows the hypocrisy in the Sunni Muslim Arab world.  Look how long it took for the Arab League to finally respond to the crisis in Syria….   If it were Israel, they would have been all over her the minute she fired one bullet.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        yes a pearl indeed!  The only people with no respect for human life are the Palestinian mothers who have ten kids with the dream that at least one of them will be a “martyr” for blowing himself up and killing as many Israeli civilians around him (or her) as possible.

        Despite being attacked by her neighbors since the rebirth of the Jewish homeland in 1948, Israel has defeated the odds and has ACTUALLY contributed to the world in many areas with numerous innovations.  What has her Arab neighbors done to contribute to the world in the past several decades other than promoting hatred and oppressing its own people under ruthless regimes (except Lebanon which we saw was capable of being a functioning society with a booming economy and thriving culture prior to 1975) . Proportionately, no other country can match Israel’s creativity and contributions to the world we live in.  In virtually every category, Israel has contributed to the world from chemistry, literature, medicine, physics, economics, internet, communication, technology, etc.  Just one example would be every time you turn on your mobile to take a picture or you use instant messaging, you are using an innovation from Israel. 
        Keep in mind, Israel has become a beacon of prosperity in the Middle East without having a drop of oil in her country.  Lebanon was also a beacon of prosperity and she also had not one drop of oil in her country.   This just goes to show that when you have intelligent, motivated people, your country can become anything.    If the Arab world was smart, they would actually try to learn from Israel and help improve their own countries. But no, they are too busy promoting anti-Jewish hatred on their media and in their schools.  They use them term “anti-Zionist” to disguise their hatred for Jewish self-determination in a part of the world they want to dominate. By targeting the Jewish nationalist movement (Zionism), they have a scapegoat for their own problems.  You know what is funny, most of the Israelis are actually Jews from Arab lands. The Arab world chased out some of its smartest people.  Unlike the Arab world, in Iran, we have embraced our Jewish community even under this screwed up government we currently have.  In fact, around 1950, about 20,000 Iraqi Jewish refugees were smuggled into Iran where they were given shelter while the Arab world (except Lebanon) basically declared war on its own Jewish populations.

        Crossed-  I ask you, do you even know what a Palestinian is?  Do you know the origin of this “nationality”?  If anyone actually knows history and truly reads between the lines, then he or she would know this Palestinian nationality was invented as an Arab nationalist attempt (hijacked by Radical Sunni Islamism) to eradicate the possibility of a Jewish majority country in the midst of the Sunni Muslim dominated Arab world.  Just look at map of the British controlled Palestine territory prior to 1923 (before trans-Jordan suddenly was invented as a region where Arabs in Palestine could have self-autonomy and have a piece of land free of any Jews)….these events, maps, and partitions speak history within themselves. Must I remind you the connection between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a big Arab nationalist, and his connection to Hitler during the 1940s. I recommend you watch this video titled “Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth Behind the West Bank”.  A prominent Israeli politician created this video which gives a brief historical overview that exposes the truth most of the world does not know.  The same truth the Arab regimes have desperately tried to hide from their own people. You might watch the video and then say “Zionist propaganda lies”.  But do yourself a favor and do humanity a favor and truly enlighten yourself.  When I first saw the video, I was shocked.  So researched on my own and found the facts were all true.  In fact, I used to believe that the Palestinian nationality had some sort of legitimacy until I actually did further research and looked at the history from long before 1948. Most people who take an entirely Pro-Palestinian stance in the Israeli-Arab conflict are usually misinformed or choose to ignore the real facts out of hatred for Jews.   I think many Arabs feel obligated to only sympathize and support Palestinians because they are fellow Sunni Muslims and Arabs so they are passionately anti-Israel even though the existence of Israel is corroborated by the Koran (it is the Arab propaganda machine that makes Muslims feel otherwise). But if the Sunni Muslim Arabs really cared so much about their fellow Muslims, then why have they been silent on other mass-scale genocides committed by fellow Sunni Muslims against Sunni Muslims.  Just look at DARFUR!!  Look at the atrocities the leadership in Khartoum has committed against black African Muslims in Sudan.  Close to 400,000 innocent civilians have been murdered and millions more have been physically displaced from their homeland and turned into refugees. Why is Arab media not showing this?? Why are so many Muslim Arabs silent?    It shows the hypocrisy in the Sunni Muslim Arab world.  Look how long it took for the Arab League to finally respond to the crisis in Syria….   If it were Israel, they would have been all over her the minute she fired one bullet.

      3. Iran Aware Avatar
        Iran Aware

        Facts please, and not some radicals ramblings on the subject

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      The only Pearl in the Middle East was Lebanon and it will be one day again.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        of course Lebanon is a pearl but it has lost its shine due to politicians working for Khameini and Assad….I hope one day the true Lebanese take back their country from these Khameini agents.  

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        of course Lebanon is a pearl but it has lost its shine due to politicians working for Khameini and Assad….I hope one day the true Lebanese take back their country from these Khameini agents.  

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        of course Lebanon is a pearl but it has lost its shine due to politicians working for Khameini and Assad….I hope one day the true Lebanese take back their country from these Khameini agents.  

      4. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Lebanon may be the Pearl, but with full of garbage. I visited Lebanon last year and was just amazed at all the trash laid out everywhere. Even by the ocean, their was so much garbage. It was like Lebanon was just one big garbage dump. Can the Lebanese just throw their trash in the can, instead out on the street?

        Maybe Israel is building the wall, so the trash in Lebanon won’t blow over into their country.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Yes i know, pollution is one of our biggest problems. 

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I almost got into a street fight with some assholes driving infront of us who dumped a bag of shit out their car window and most blew on our car…I lost my mind, my cousin says to me relax its normal, they all throw their shit out around here…well lets just say I didnt let it slide…Lebanon is full of animals, when I go back home the minute we turn onto the road to our village the streets are like night and day, so clean and the air so fresh, some people are just animals and others are stewards of the land and love their country and take pride in it…

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I almost got into a street fight with some assholes driving infront of us who dumped a bag of shit out their car window and most blew on our car…I lost my mind, my cousin says to me relax its normal, they all throw their shit out around here…well lets just say I didnt let it slide…Lebanon is full of animals, when I go back home the minute we turn onto the road to our village the streets are like night and day, so clean and the air so fresh, some people are just animals and others are stewards of the land and love their country and take pride in it…

        4. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          i have to agree, littering  freaks me out real bad but the most disturbing was visiting a pet store  anywhere in lebanon is nothing short of animal cruelty. lastly no awards are in order for courteous driving.

        5. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          i have to agree, littering  freaks me out real bad but the most disturbing was visiting a pet store  anywhere in lebanon is nothing short of animal cruelty. lastly no awards are in order for courteous driving.

        6. Avatar
          Anonymous

          People are throwing animal parts and garbage to Lebanon’s rivers and this has polluted most of the country’s rivers which provide water for irrigation.

      5. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Yes Lebanon is beautiful but the people in it ,well not sure ????? .Let  me tell you I am Lebanese and have been to Isreal and it is a pearl as well. Why can’t we live together side by side or will we be doing this hate thing forever……………. I hope you are rite about Lebanon changing again to be the pearl it was…

  3. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    The only nation that imposes a Berlin wall style prison upon itself.

  4. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    The only nation that imposes a Berlin wall style prison upon itself.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Also the only nation surrounded by dozens on countries with populations many times greater that want to erase it from the map. 

      The mosquito should not be surprised when the man puts on insect repellent.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Here is your contradiction: In your argument you say greater then you define greater with a mosquito. What you should have said is “the mosquito is using a repellent to ward off a man” which incidentally would starve the mosquito… 

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I would hardly call Lebanon, or any of Israel’s neighbors the “man” in this case. Israel would exist (probably with a lot less problems) if the Arab world disappeared and it was sitting alone in a sea as an island. On the contrary, Israel’s hostile neighbors which necessitate the building of the wall in the first place (in this case Hezbollah) could not exist without Israel. So I stand by the analogy. Israel is a man. Independent and free. Hezbollah is a mosquito, trying to harm the man. 

          So let me remove the analogy and say the sentence now in real terms:

          Hezbollah should not be surprised when Israel puts up a wall.

          After the intifada, Israel built a wall in the west bank to keep the Arabs out. And suicide bombing, which was an almost weekly occurring, suddenly came to a halt. And have you heard the saying “good fences make good neigbors”? Perhaps it’s what we need to do to build some mutual trust in each other. 

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Eblashko (below) may find that the only thing people come to trust is the fence.

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Eblashko (below) may find that the only thing people come to trust is the fence.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      The only nation that still has to deal with barbarians daily.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        We have been dealing with those barbarians for eons… believe me. Look at the histories and see the plight of the Maronites since Byzantium and the rise of Islam (the religion of peace).

  5. Beiruti Avatar
    Beiruti

    LOL I find this hilarious, its like a wall is going to be so tall that the mortars and rockets wont be able to get over it! 

    1. American Infidels Avatar
      American Infidels

       no but it does snipers and the ability to peep with binoculars is reduced as well. Plus that means you cross it you get shot. If you didn’t have Hezbollah it might be different

    2. American Infidels Avatar
      American Infidels

       no but it does snipers and the ability to peep with binoculars is reduced as well. Plus that means you cross it you get shot. If you didn’t have Hezbollah it might be different

  6. Beiruti Avatar
    Beiruti

    Israel is wasting their money for nonsense honestly, if they want to resist Hezbollah let them use the money for that wall for buying weapons.

    1. eblashko Avatar
      eblashko

      Maybe it’s not for Hezbollah. Remember those Palestinians who tried to storm in last summer. We have to protect our sovereignty. 

      1. Beiruti Avatar
        Beiruti

        Of course i remember, how theres 400,000 Palestinians in our country, those Palestinians which wiped their asses with the Lebanese sovereignty due to the fact you kicked them to Jordan in 1948 and then in 1969 from Jordan to us. Now do me a favor and take back those Palestinians and put them back to West Bank and Gaza. After that build up the wall so the Palestinians cant come back running to Beirut.

        1. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          Inshallah. But let’s be clear:

          A) We didn’t kick them to Lebanon. They left on their own. 
          B) They wouldn’t have been able to go if Lebanon didn’t declare war on Israel in 1948 (a mistake it would not repeat in 1967 or 1973).
          C) They only “wiped their asses with your sovereignty” because Lebanon let the PLO in in the 70’s in the first place and didn’t do anything when they were killing Israeli children in families in the Galilee for years. 

          Trust me, I empathize. There are a lot of Palestinians causing problems in my country too. Hopefully soon they can have their own country and leave us all alone. 

        2. Philassie Avatar
          Philassie

          Those Palestinians mainly came from Jordan after Black September and none would be in Lebanon had Lebanon not gratuitously attacked Israel in 1948 before your imagined expulsions.  (Jews who have been in Lebanon much longer than Arabs were however expelled).

        3. Philassie Avatar
          Philassie

          Those Palestinians mainly came from Jordan after Black September and none would be in Lebanon had Lebanon not gratuitously attacked Israel in 1948 before your imagined expulsions.  (Jews who have been in Lebanon much longer than Arabs were however expelled).

      2. Sebouh80 Avatar
        Sebouh80

        Sorry to disturb you my friend. These policies are reminiscent of an Apartheid era.

        Erecting walls both inside occupied territories and around neighboring countries will not solve Israel’s long term security problems.
        In my personal judgement,the use of extreme nationalistic rhetoric by both the Israelis and Arabs have undermined any prospect of lasting peace. Moreover, under current circumstances it has become  impossible to reconcile Zionism with Arab nationalism and on top of this conundrum you have the imperial interests dominating this region.
        Finally, the tragic thing is that the Israeli public for the last decade or so has sharply moved to the right and this is evident with the politicians that they have elected. 

        Still there is still no alternative then peace, but it has to be under a new perspective that would meet the interests of both Arab and Israeli working classes. 

         

        1. prophettt Avatar
          prophettt

          Sebouh, I agree with you,and would just add that ,Israel  is behaving like a typical  thief who refuses to admit He ever stole anything,because the minute He does,and agrees to return one item He stole,  He would then loose any legitimacy to keep all the other items He had stolen.  So Israel  is  in denial ,and hoping that time will be on its side,but forgetting that history is not   measured by 60 or 70 years.

        2. American Infidels Avatar
          American Infidels

           Please dont start with the apartheid cr*p, its the biggest lie in the world.Its every Arab nation that is guilty of that one, and thats reality.The Arabs in Israel have way more freedom and rights than all the Arab countries combined. The Pals dont get that because to them its more important to destroy someone else’s state instead of building your own

        3. persepoliswarrior Avatar
          persepoliswarrior

          Arab nationalism could have easily accommodated Zionism in the early part of the 20th century.  But it didn’t because of Arab supremacy in the region and the belief Jews are inferior and have no right to live in their ancestral homeland after centuries of persecution across the world, including in Sunni Muslim Arab countries.  If the Arab world had embraced the idea of a Jewish homeland in the middle of Arab states, there would be no conflict today.  Had the Arab people followed the approach of Faisal I of Iraq in Faisal-Weizmann agreement, the Levant  would be a thriving, prosperous region within the Middle East with a diverse framework of people.  But no, too many Sunni Muslim Arabs (both secularists like Nasser and religious extremists like Salafists) want control over everything in the Middle East.  They want all the power and will not allow any minority to come in their way whether it be Shias, Maronites, Kurds, Berbers, Jews, Alawites etc.  Why do you think so many Lebanese Shias support Hezbollah?  I don’t buy the resistance against the “Zionist aggression” card.  I think the real reason is because it is the first time in Lebanese history that Shias have some sort of big influence on Lebanon because people fear their power and capabilities. Nobody can push them now to the bottom of society. Giving up their weapons would be giving up a huge chunk of their power.  For so many years, they were the viewed as the hillbillies of Lebanon, a bunch of illiterate farmers.  But now, people fear their growing political influence and ascendancy to domination in the country. Lebanese Shias like this power their sect possesses.  Unfortunately, they are not using their power to make Lebanon a better place.  Instead, their political parties are using this power and influence to serve the interests of the brutal Khameini regime and Assad. I do not condone any of this and believe the Lebanese Shia Muslim community are digging a big hole for themselves in the future. They need to respect the Lebanese constitution.  All arms should be in possession of the state, not militant, terrorist groups.

      3. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        eblashko, I’m not a big fan of Palestinians but they were just trying to go home.  That was their home if you remember.

        1. American Infidels Avatar
          American Infidels

           No it was not, another lie. they didn’t come there until the Jews drove a economy there, then they came for work. Unlike in Arab countries where your net is censored, you can look all over the net and find the facts and statistics that refute the entire Fakestinian idea..

        2. persepoliswarrior Avatar
          persepoliswarrior

          libnan1, yes, you are right!  It was the home of their grandparents.  The same home they lost during a war in which their Arab brethren tried to exterminate an entire population of people.  It is very clear what the intentions were of the Arabs in 1948.  Those who participated in the war campaign against the Jewish state were trying to finish off Hitler’s job.  It is evident by the history that preceded 1948.  As Secretary General of the Arab League, Mr. Azzam Pasha himself said in 48, “We are already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development will be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean…. Brothers, Arabs of Palestine leave your land, homes and property and stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”

          Sounded like a call for genocide to me…..I ask you why aren’t Armenian refugees lined up along Turkey’s borders?  Why aren’t they trying to infiltrate Turkey’s sovereignty? Why aren’t they running across the border and trying to blow themselves up and kill as many Turkish civilians as they can and then be called “martyrs” by their own people? Weren’t their ancestors ACTUALLY massacred (unlike Palestinian Arabs who were massacring Palestinian Jews long before 1948) and displaced from their homeland in an area we now call Eastern Turkey?  Remember when 1.5 million innocent Armenians were murdered and hundreds of thousands more were chased into the deserts with nowhere to go. Why isn’t Eastern Turkey called the “Occupied Armenian territories”.  I remember it was the home of the Armenians once upon a time. Armenians had merely been targeted because of their ethnicity. I did not see Armenian refugees living in refugee camps across the Middle East more than six decades after the atrocities the Turkish Empire committed against the Armenian people. I suppose Armenians are civilized, moral people who just want to live in peace and contribute to the world as opposed to breeding hatred and forming militant groups that terrorize innocent people.

           I understand that you as a Lebanese must dislike Palestinians for doing what they did to your beautiful country. What they did was despicable and horrendous. But I partly blame Lebanon for the way Palestinians behave in Lebanon today. They have been lowered into the lowest class of your society.  They are discriminated against and live as outcasts. They cannot get a long list of jobs, own land, etc.    While Lebanon incorporated Armenian refugees and made them loyal, modernised, educated Lebanese citizens, Lebanon has failed to even give Palestinians half of the same treatment.  As a result, you have a bunch of uneducated, barbaric people who cannot contribute to your country in any way whatsoever due to the restrictions placed upon them. They live like roaches in your country.  Why are they treated this way?  Because most Arab countries (with the exception of Jordan) want to use the plight of Palestinian refugees as a tool against Israel. If they did not create obstacles that forced Palestinians into the lowest, impoverished ranks within their countries, then there would not have a Palestinian refugee problem today.  Consequently, this would be one less tool the Arab world could use in its anti-Israel rhetoric.  So the Arab governments (or shall I say dictator regimes)  have to make the post-48 generations have the inability to achieve and become something more than just a breathing object in a refugee camp.  

          sorry for the long response, but the double standard held against Israel is absurd. the world, especially people in the Middle East, need to wake up to the reality.

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    Anonymous

    LOL I find this hilarious, its like a wall is going to be so tall that the mortars and rockets wont be able to get over it! 

    1. Iran Aware Avatar
      Iran Aware

       no but it does snipers and the ability to peep with binoculars is reduced as well. Plus that means you cross it you get shot. If you didn’t have Hezbollah it might be different

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    Anonymous

    Israel is wasting their money for nonsense honestly, if they want to resist Hezbollah let them use the money for that wall for buying weapons.

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      Anonymous

      Maybe it’s not for Hezbollah. Remember those Palestinians who tried to storm in last summer. We have to protect our sovereignty. 

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        Anonymous

        Of course i remember, how theres 400,000 Palestinians in our country, those Palestinians which wiped their asses with the Lebanese sovereignty due to the fact you kicked them to us in 1948. Now do me a favor and take back those Palestinians and put them back to West Bank and Gaza. After that build up the wall so the Palestinians cant come back running to Beirut.   

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          Anonymous

          Inshallah. But let’s be clear:

          A) We didn’t kick them to Lebanon. They left on their own. 
          B) They wouldn’t have been able to go if Lebanon didn’t declare war on Israel in 1948 (a mistake it would not repeat in 1967 or 1973).
          C) They only “wiped their asses with your sovereignty” because Lebanon let the PLO in in the 70’s in the first place and didn’t do anything when they were killing Israeli children in families in the Galilee for years. 

          Trust me, I empathize. There are a lot of Palestinians causing problems in my country too. Hopefully soon they can have their own country and leave us all alone. 

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          Anonymous

          Those Palestinians mainly came from Jordan after Black September and none would be in Lebanon had Lebanon not gratuitously attacked Israel in 1948 before your imagined expulsions.  (Jews who have been in Lebanon much longer than Arabs were however expelled).

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        Anonymous

        Sorry to disturb you my friend. These policies are reminiscent of an Apartheid era.

        Erecting walls both inside occupied territories and around neighboring countries will not solve Israel’s long term security problems.
        In my personal judgement,the use of extreme nationalistic rhetoric by both the Israelis and Arabs have undermined any prospect of lasting peace. Moreover, under current circumstances it has become  impossible to reconcile Zionism with Arab nationalism and on top of this conundrum you have the imperial interests dominating this region.
        Finally, the tragic thing is that the Israeli public for the last decade or so has sharply moved to the right and this is evident with the politicians that they have elected. 

        Still there is still no alternative then peace, but it has to be under a new perspective that would meet the interests of both Arab and Israeli working classes. 

         

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          Anonymous

          Sebouh, I agree with you,and would just add that ,Israel  is behaving like a typical  thief who refuses to admit He ever stole anything,because the minute He does,and agrees to return one item He stole,  He would then loose any legitimacy to keep all the other items He had stolen.  So Israel  is  in denial ,and hoping that time will be on its side,but forgetting that history is not   measured by 60 or 70 years.

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          Iran Aware

           Please dont start with the apartheid cr*p, its the biggest lie in the world.Its every Arab nation that is guilty of that one, and thats reality.The Arabs in Israel have way more freedom and rights than all the Arab countries combined. The Pals dont get that because to them its more important to destroy someone else’s state instead of building your own

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          Anonymous

          Arab nationalism could have easily accommodated Zionism in the early part of the 20th century.  But it didn’t because of Arab supremacy in the region and the belief Jews are inferior and have no right to live in their ancestral homeland after centuries of persecution across the world, including in Sunni Muslim Arab countries.  If the Arab world had embraced the idea of a Jewish homeland in the middle of Arab states, there would be no conflict today.  Had the Arab people followed the approach of Faisal I of Iraq in Faisal-Weizmann agreement, the Levant  would be a thriving, prosperous region within the Middle East with a diverse framework of people.  But no, too many Sunni Muslim Arabs (both secularists like Nasser and religious extremists like Salafists) want control over everything in the Middle East.  They want all the power and will not allow any minority to come in their way whether it be Shias, Maronites, Kurds, Berbers, Jews, Alawites etc.  Why do you think so many Lebanese Shias support Hezbollah?  I don’t buy the resistance against the “Zionist aggression” card.  I think the real reason is because it is the first time in Lebanese history that Shias have some sort of big influence on Lebanon because people fear their power and capabilities. Nobody can push them now to the bottom of society. Giving up their weapons would be giving up a huge chunk of their power.  For so many years, they were the viewed as the hillbillies of Lebanon, a bunch of illiterate farmers.  But now, people fear their growing political influence and ascendancy to domination in the country. Lebanese Shias like this power their sect possesses.  Unfortunately, they are not using their power to make Lebanon a better place.  Instead, their political parties are using this power and influence to serve the interests of the brutal Khameini regime and Assad. I do not condone any of this and believe the Lebanese Shia Muslim community are digging a big hole for themselves in the future. They need to respect the Lebanese constitution.  All arms should be in possession of the state, not militant, terrorist groups.

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        Anonymous

        eblashko, I’m not a big fan of Palestinians but they were just trying to go home.  That was their home if you remember.

        1. Iran Aware Avatar
          Iran Aware

           No it was not, another lie. they didn’t come there until the Jews drove a economy there, then they came for work. Unlike in Arab countries where your net is censored, you can look all over the net and find the facts and statistics that refute the entire Fakestinian idea..

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          Anonymous

          libnan1, yes, you are right!  It was the home of their grandparents.  The same home they lost during a war in which their Arab brethren tried to exterminate an entire population of people.  It is very clear what the intentions were of the Arabs in 1948.  Those who participated in the war campaign against the Jewish state were trying to finish off Hitler’s job.  It is evident by the history that preceded 1948.  As Secretary General of the Arab League, Mr. Azzam Pasha himself said in 48, “We are already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development will be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean…. Brothers, Arabs of Palestine leave your land, homes and property and stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”

          Sounded like a call for genocide to me…..I ask you why aren’t Armenian refugees lined up along Turkey’s borders?  Why aren’t they trying to infiltrate Turkey’s sovereignty? Why aren’t they running across the border and trying to blow themselves up and kill as many Turkish civilians as they can and then be called “martyrs” by their own people? Weren’t their ancestors ACTUALLY massacred (unlike Palestinian Arabs who were massacring Palestinian Jews long before 1948) and displaced from their homeland in an area we now call Eastern Turkey?  Remember when 1.5 million innocent Armenians were murdered and hundreds of thousands more were chased into the deserts with nowhere to go. Why isn’t Eastern Turkey called the “Occupied Armenian territories”.  I remember it was the home of the Armenians once upon a time. Armenians had merely been targeted because of their ethnicity. I did not see Armenian refugees living in refugee camps across the Middle East more than six decades after the atrocities the Turkish Empire committed against the Armenian people. I suppose Armenians are civilized, moral people who just want to live in peace and contribute to the world as opposed to breeding hatred and forming militant groups that terrorize innocent people.

           I understand that you as a Lebanese must dislike Palestinians for doing what they did to your beautiful country. What they did was despicable and horrendous. But I partly blame Lebanon for the way Palestinians behave in Lebanon today. They have been lowered into the lowest class of your society.  They are discriminated against and live as outcasts. They cannot get a long list of jobs, own land, etc.    While Lebanon incorporated Armenian refugees and made them loyal, modernised, educated Lebanese citizens, Lebanon has failed to even give Palestinians half of the same treatment.  As a result, you have a bunch of uneducated, barbaric people who cannot contribute to your country in any way whatsoever due to the restrictions placed upon them. They live like roaches in your country.  Why are they treated this way?  Because most Arab countries (with the exception of Jordan) want to use the plight of Palestinian refugees as a tool against Israel. If they did not create obstacles that forced Palestinians into the lowest, impoverished ranks within their countries, then there would not have a Palestinian refugee problem today.  Consequently, this would be one less tool the Arab world could use in its anti-Israel rhetoric.  So the Arab governments (or shall I say dictator regimes)  have to make the post-48 generations have the inability to achieve and become something more than just a breathing object in a refugee camp.  

          sorry for the long response, but the double standard held against Israel is absurd. the world, especially people in the Middle East, need to wake up to the reality.

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    libnan1

    Better yet make 20 ft high and all along the border. It’s their loss not ours.

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    Anonymous

    Better yet make 20 ft high and all along the border. It’s their loss not ours.

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    Anonymous

    Better yet make 20 ft high and all along the border. It’s their loss not ours.

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    5thDrawer

    Never get all the idiots together by building high fences …. never happened anywhere.
    And don’t quote me the line about ‘Good fences make good neighbours.’ Something decorative and 2 ft high, perhaps.

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    Anonymous

    Never get all the idiots together by building high fences …. never happened anywhere.

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