Analysis: A Turkish Assad?

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By GRAEME WOOD

Which is scarier: a government that hunts down and kills dozens in cold blood, or a government that hunts down and kills dozens by accident?

On Thursday, Turkey admitted to being the second type of government, just as over the last few months Syria has demonstrated itself conclusively to be the first. Turkey’s mistake, which it acknowledged sheepishly, was to launch air-strikes on Wednesday against about 35 men hiking along unmarked trails between Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan. The Turkish military says it thought the men were terrorist members of the Kurdistan Workers Party (P.K.K.). But evidence found near the corpses suggested a more benign activity: the men were smugglers evading onerous Turkish and Iraqi customs duties on diesel and tobacco at the official crossing point of Habur. They carried Kools, not Kalashnikovs.

In the past, Turkey’s Kurds have responded to incidents like this one by protesting in the streets and public squares, with a little bit of armed struggle from actual terrorists on the side. Last night in Istanbul, Kurds and their allies went to the streets. On Istliklal Avenue, in Beyoglu district in central Istanbul, at street corners normally reserved for upper-class shoppers in winter chic, riot police stood huffing into their hands to chase away the cold, waiting for violence that never came. But news agencies reported that in the country’s predominantly Kurdish southeast, crowds threw stones and Molotov cocktails, and stores were shuttered for the day.

After violence in the southeast, recriminations and confrontations like these are common. But there’s a notable change of vocabulary this time. Whereas Kurds once looked to the West and patiently tried to master the human rights language of the European Union, now at least some of them are looking south, to the more urgent and concrete language of protest movements in the Arab world. And in adopting that rhetoric, the Kurdish leaders are making missteps.

“A leader who kills his own people has lost his legitimacy,” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey said of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria in September. Now Selahattin Demirtas, the Kurdish member of parliament who heads the Peace and Democracy Party, finds Erdogan’s words delicious. not to quote back to him. “Now I say the same thing back to him,” Demirtas said. “This was no accident: it was a massacre.” Demirtas, whose party is the sole legal political voice of the Kurds in Turkey these days, said he considered the killing caused by Wednesday’s air strike to be an Assad-level crime.

It’s a preposterous and self-discrediting comparison: Erdogan and Assad resemble each other in little more than their mustaches. The first people to acknowledge the differences between the two should be the Kurds themselves: Erdogan’s government has in many ways improved upon the nationalist Turkish governments of yesteryear, and the Kurds of Syria have always suffered far more grievously than the Kurds of Turkey. In the P.K.K. camps of northern Iraq, Syrian Kurds are overrepresented — the result of especially zealous oppression by the Assad regime.

It’s hard to begrudge a movement as aggrieved as the Kurds’ this moment of hyperbole. But let’s hope that the Kurds will reconsider their annexation of Arab Spring analogies. A movement that has spent the last couple of decades mastering the art of patience shouldn’t now sideline its own cause with a faulty comparison to a more desperate one.

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39 responses to “Analysis: A Turkish Assad?”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Correct.
     And smuggling has never been the most safe occupation, since it is a form of piracy.
    In all cases at very least, it robs from the government of any country those taxes which, even if often onerous, all citizens theoretically benefit from. At worst it transports weapons to kill the citizens.
    In the ‘modern’ world, taxing legal tobacco into non-existence is the most popular recent form of life-style control. And governments have seen the benefits of applying taxes far beyond what a farmer could ever make with growing it. So smuggling stolen or untaxed tobacco generally is not appreciated by any government anywhere. Dangerous indeed.
    Same thing applies to diesel fuel … or any fuel for that matter … a needed material is as taxable as the un-needed.
    Mind you, spending millions on the air-support weaponry used to eliminate 35 walking smugglers seems a little over-the-top.

    1. leobetapar Avatar
      leobetapar

      WHAT? You are saying that it’s right to fire missiles on smuglers 5th drawer i told you and tell you again look for a psychiatre

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Gee Leo … catching up to old news? 😉
         I only said that, if you pick a dangerous and illegal occupation, you might expect to get hurt in it.

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    Anonymous

    Correct.
     And smuggling has never been the most safe occupation, since it is a form of piracy.
    In all cases at very least, it robs from the government of any country those taxes which, even if often onerous, all citizens theoretically benefit from. At worst it transports weapons to kill the citizens.
    In the ‘modern’ world, taxing legal tobacco into non-existence is the most popular recent form of life-style control. And governments have seen the benefits of applying taxes far beyond what a farmer could ever make with growing it. So smuggling stolen or untaxed tobacco generally is not appreciated by any government anywhere. Dangerous indeed.
    Same thing applies to diesel fuel … or any fuel for that matter … a needed material is as taxable as the un-needed.
    Mind you, spending millions on the air-support weaponry used to eliminate 35 walking smugglers seems a little over-the-top.

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      WHAT? You are saying that it’s right to fire missiles on smuglers 5th drawer i told you and tell you again look for a psychiatre

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        Gee Leo … catching up to old news? 😉
         I only said that, if you pick a dangerous and illegal occupation, you might expect to get hurt in it.

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          ok when it’s an accident .But imagine HA deciding to kill any one crossing illegaly the lebanese border imagine just that

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          Yah Leo … imagine that indeed.

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      WHAT? You are saying that it’s right to fire missiles on smuglers 5th drawer i told you and tell you again look for a psychiatre

  3. persepoliswarrior Avatar
    persepoliswarrior

    The media does not show the oppression Turkey has committed against the Kurdish people for decades.  Erdogan is the biggest, two-faced hypocrite.  He is quick to judge other nations but he needs to look in a mirror and judge his own…

    1. leobetapar Avatar
      leobetapar

      they want to prepate against the Kurdish what they do to the Armenian Erdogan is a shit who pretend fighting for Islam when he is to scare to allow his wife to cover her head What a pity

      1. hey you armenian, haven’t u got another work? i think u r waiting in front of this page and writing about some armenian fantasies kurdish $htz after every comment for a month. 
        and u r clearly showing your face to us by writing; ..”the turkish is a DOG..”

        you fascist!  racist!

        get a job.

        1. leobetapar Avatar

          just one word GENOCIDAR

        2. leobetapar Avatar

          just one word GENOCIDAR

        3. u all armenians, when u can not give answer 4 anything, u just say genoblabla.. i am from Erzurum, my grand grandfather killed by armenian terrorist when ottoman era. let u answer that u fkin “genocidar”!! 

        4.  Im half Armenian so I take personal offense to youre racist comments. No need labeling an entire people when one person speaks about another person from Turkey.
          Armenia has a history a peace compared to the Turkish history and YES THE TURKS DID KILL A MILLION ARMENIANS AND IT IS CALLED GENOCIDE. Armenia was the first nation to accept Christianity, Has the oldest Church and in its history has never attacked another nation or occupied another land. Turkey and the Turkish people are a great Civilization but racist idiots like you can make anyone look bad. Do us all a favor and dig a hole and hide in it forever because people like you will never have success in your personal, social or professional life.

    2. leobetapar Avatar
      leobetapar

      they want to prepate against the Kurdish what they do to the Armenian Erdogan is a shit who pretend fighting for Islam when he is to scare to allow his wife to cover her head What a pity

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    Anonymous

    The media does not show the oppression Turkey has committed against the Kurdish people for decades.  Erdogan is the biggest, two-faced hypocrite.  He is quick to judge other nations but he needs to look in a mirror and judge his own…

    1.  Avatar

      they want to prepate against the Kurdish what they do to the Armenian Erdogan is a shit who pretend fighting for Islam when he is to scare to allow his wife to cover her head What a pity

      1. hey you armenian, haven’t u got another work? i think u r waiting in front of this page and writing about some armenian fantasies kurdish $htz after every comment for a month. 
        and u r clearly showing your face to us by writing; ..”the turkish is a DOG..”

        you fascist!  racist!

        get a job.

        1.  Avatar

          just one word GENOCIDAR

        2. u all armenians, when u can not give answer 4 anything, u just say genoblabla.. i am from Erzurum, my grand grandfather killed by armenian terrorist when ottoman era. let u answer that u fkin “genocidar”!! 

        3.  Im half Armenian so I take personal offense to youre racist comments. No need labeling an entire people when one person speaks about another person from Turkey.
          Armenia has a history a peace compared to the Turkish history and YES THE TURKS DID KILL A MILLION ARMENIANS AND IT IS CALLED GENOCIDE. Armenia was the first nation to accept Christianity, Has the oldest Church and in its history has never attacked another nation or occupied another land. Turkey and the Turkish people are a great Civilization but racist idiots like you can make anyone look bad. Do us all a favor and dig a hole and hide in it forever because people like you will never have success in your personal, social or professional life.

  5. bla bla bla! we from turkey clearly know and now leaked some information that it was a dirty plot prepared by terrorist PKK, some dark forces inside Turkish army and Ergenekon terrorist gang in order to de-stabilize country.

    1. leobetapar Avatar
      leobetapar

      yeah you right the Armenian to was a dirty plot >The fact is that you Turkish like to kill and to genocide

  6. bla bla bla! we from turkey clearly know and now leaked some information that it was a dirty plot prepared by terrorist PKK, some dark forces inside Turkish army and Ergenekon terrorist gang in order to de-stabilize country.

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      yeah you right the Armenian to was a dirty plot >The fact is that you Turkish like to kill and to genocide

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      yeah you right the Armenian to was a dirty plot >The fact is that you Turkish like to kill and to genocide

  7. leobetapar Avatar
    leobetapar

    Between all the state heads in near orient Assad is the best one ,the turkish is a DOG WHO ARE NOT ALLOW IN HIS OWN COUNTRY TO LET HIS WIFE TO COVER HER HEAD AND WHO PRETEND GOING OUT TO DEFEND THE SUNNIS,GO HIDE SHY DOG

  8. leobetapar Avatar
    leobetapar

    Between all the state heads in near orient Assad is the best one ,the turkish is a DOG WHO ARE NOT ALLOW IN HIS OWN COUNTRY TO LET HIS WIFE TO COVER HER HEAD AND WHO PRETEND GOING OUT TO DEFEND THE SUNNIS,GO HIDE SHY DOG

  9.  Avatar

    Between all the state heads in near orient Assad is the best one ,the turkish is a DOG WHO ARE NOT ALLOW IN HIS OWN COUNTRY TO LET HIS WIFE TO COVER HER HEAD AND WHO PRETEND GOING OUT TO DEFEND THE SUNNIS,GO HIDE SHY DOG

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    Between all the state heads in near orient Assad is the best one ,the turkish is a DOG WHO ARE NOT ALLOW IN HIS OWN COUNTRY TO LET HIS WIFE TO COVER HER HEAD AND WHO PRETEND GOING OUT TO DEFEND THE SUNNIS,GO HIDE SHY DOG

  11. To UgurD, I do not blame you to be brain washed because if you do not get on internet and do research or go outside Turkey and read history books by Europeans and USA Ambassador to Turkey during WWI that if was official extermination of mostly Armenian people with Assyrians and Greeks from Turkey. Yes there was Armenian Fedayeen to protect Armenians and kill  Turkish soldiers that were coming to attack Armenians in some towns and villages , you would do the same right, I am sorry that your Grandfather died by an Armenian but the ratio 1 to 1000 you should also know some of your grandmothers and grandfathers are actually Armenian origin cause Turks and Kurds either stole them from their parents or forced the young boys and girls to convert with all the young Armenian women, their only mistake was to be of different race or religion, is this their mistake that they are born Armenian or Christian or their ancestors mistake where is the logic to exterminate people because of their religion or ethnicity, or they were called “Gavour” means Kaafir or infidel even though Muslims Jews and Christians worship the same God, how retarded can  somebody get not to understand a simple fact.

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    To UgurD, I do not blame you to be brain washed because if you do not get on internet and do research or go outside Turkey and read history books by Europeans and USA Ambassador to Turkey during WWI that if was official extermination of mostly Armenian people with Assyrians and Greeks from Turkey. Yes there was Armenian Fedayeen to protect Armenians and kill  Turkish soldiers that were coming to attack Armenians in some towns and villages , you would do the same right, I am sorry that your Grandfather died by an Armenian but the ratio 1 to 1000 you should also know some of your grandmothers and grandfathers are actually Armenian origin cause Turks and Kurds either stole them from their parents or forced the young boys and girls to convert with all the young Armenian women, their only mistake was to be of different race or religion, is this their mistake that they are born Armenian or Christian or their ancestors mistake where is the logic to exterminate people because of their religion or ethnicity, or they were called “Gavour” means Kaafir or infidel even though Muslims Jews and Christians worship the same God, how retarded can  somebody get not to understand a simple fact.

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