Egypt’s Vote Exposes an Islamist Divide on Religious Rule

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To Sheik Abdel Moneim el-Shahat, the Muslim Brotherhood’s call to apply only the broad principles of Islamic law allows too much freedom.

Sheik Shahat is a leader of the ultraconservative Islamists known as Salafis, whose coalition of parties is running second behind the Brotherhood party in the early returns of Egypt’s parliamentary elections. He and his allies are demanding strict prohibitions against interest-bearing loans, alcohol and “fornication,” with traditional Islamic corporal punishment like stoning for adultery.

“I want to say: citizenship restricted by Islamic Shariah, freedom restricted by Islamic Shariah, equality restricted by Islamic Shariah,” he said in a public debate. “Shariah is obligatory, not just the principles — freedom and justice and all that.”

The unexpected electoral success of the Salafis — reported to have won about 25 percent of the votes in the first round of the elections, second only to the roughly 40 percent for the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party — is terrifying Egyptian liberals and troubling the West. But their new clout is also presenting a challenge to the Muslim Brotherhood, in part by plunging it into a polarizing Islamist-against-Islamist debate over the application of Islamic law in Egypt’s promised democracy, a debate the Brotherhood had worked hard to avoid.

“The Salafis want to have that conversation right now, and the Brotherhood doesn’t,” said Shadi Hamid, a researcher with the Brookings Doha Center, a Brookings Institution project in Qatar. “The Brotherhood is not interested in talking about Islamic law right now because they have other priorities that are more important. But the Salafis are going to insist on putting religion in the forefront of the debate, and that will be very difficult for the Brotherhood to ignore.”

The Brotherhood, the venerable group that virtually invented the Islamist movement eight decades ago, is at its core a middle-class missionary institution, led not by religious scholars but by doctors, lawyers and professionals. It has long sought to move Egypt toward a more orthodox Islamic society from the bottom up, one person and family at a time. After a long struggle in the shadows of the rule of President Hosni Mubarak, its leaders have sought to avoid potentially divisive conversations about the details of Islamic law that might set off alarms about an Islamist takeover. But their evasiveness on the subject has played into long-term suspicions of even fellow Islamists that they are too concerned with their own power.

The Salafis are political newcomers, directed by religious leaders who favor long beards in imitation of the Prophet Muhammad. Many frown on the mixing of the sexes, refusing to shake hands with women let alone condoning any sort of political activity by them. Although their parties are required to include female candidates, they usually print pictures of flowers instead of the women’s faces on campaign posters. And while the Salafis’ ideology strikes many Egyptians as extreme and anachronistic, their sheiks command built-in networks of devoted followers, and even voters who disagree with their puritanical doctrine often credit the Salafis with integrity and authenticity.

After the first election results last week, the Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party quickly declared that it had no plans to form any coalition with the Salafis, with some members already ending months of restrained silence by striking back. In an interview after the vote, for example, Dina Zakaria, a spokeswoman for the party, derided the Salafis’ prohibition on women in leadership roles and their refusal to print the faces of their female candidates.

“We don’t hold stagnant positions,” she said, insisting that the Brotherhood’s party favored an evolving understanding of Islam that supported the right of women to choose their own roles. (At campaign rallies, women from the party sometimes underscore the point by saying Muhammad even enlisted women in combat.)

Such debates, however, threaten to knock the Brotherhood off the fine line it has attempted to walk.

In public statements, the party’s leaders have preferred to focus on broader themes of Islamic identity and the bread-and-butter questions that are the more urgent concerns of voters. On the campaign trail, the Brotherhood sometimes even seems to appeal to both sides from the same podium — sounding like Salafis themselves one minute but avowing moderation the next.

“To give your vote for Islamists is a religious issue,” an Islamic scholar, Sayed Abdel Karim, declared at a campaign rally in Giza, across the Nile from Cairo, calling for “the rule of God, not the rule of the people.”

“The revival of Islamic spirit in the region is a direct threat to Israel and the future of the Western civilization, Europe and the U.S.,” he said, asserting that “the enemy media” were already saying that “those who love Jews, the United States and Europe should make every effort to keep the Islamic spirit dormant. Look at the conspiracy!”

But moments later, the main speaker and the top candidate on his party’s list, Essam el-Erian, declared that the party believed only in nonsectarian citizenship for all, that Christians and Muslims should enjoy equal rights as “sons of the nation” in the eyes of a neutral state and that the next constitution should protect free expression. And he pledged warm relations with any nation that respected Egypt’s “independence and culture.”

(Brotherhood leaders have said they support retaining the 1979 Camp David peace treaty with Israel, with some possible modifications, while the Salafis have sometimes talked of putting it to a national referendum.)

“The garrison of religion in Egypt has special characteristics,” Mr. Erian said, “tolerance and moderation.”

Leaders of the Brotherhood’s party have endorsed public commitments to protect individual rights. And its platform strikes a consistent theme of eschewing the quick prod of legal coercion in favor of encouraging private endeavors toward gradual change. Unlike the Salafis, it has not proposed to regulate the content of arts or entertainment, women’s work or dress, or even the religious content of public education. In fact, the party’s platform calls for smaller government to limit corruption and liberalize the economy.

Instead the party proposes to nudge Egyptian society by the power of example. In culture, it would encourage “self-censorship” by asking artists and writers to sign a voluntary “code of ethics.” The government, meanwhile, would support music, films and other arts that extol religious and family values.

For social welfare, the party seeks to institutionalize the obligatory Islamic charitable contribution, known as Zakat, by collecting a mandatory 2.5 percent income tax from all Muslims, which the government would then pass to regulated Islamic charities. It would encourage these Islamic charities to set up their own religious schools and hospitals. And to encourage women to accept traditional gender roles, it would promote family values in entertainment while subsidizing community centers for matchmaking and marriage counseling.

“Do you find anything saying that our party is going to impose any kind of law on the moral side?” challenged Mr. Erian, who is running for Parliament in Giza.

Every major party here — liberal or Islamist — supports retaining the clause in the Constitution stipulating that Islam is the source of Egyptian law. But competing Islamist parties offer conflicting ideas about “activating” the clause.

The most liberal — like the former Brotherhood members in the Center Party and the presidential candidate Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, both breakaways from the Brotherhood — advocate essentially secular-liberal states, arguing that government should not get involved in interpreting Islam.

The Salafis, on the other hand, often favor the idea that a specialized council of religious scholars should advise the Parliament or review its legislation to ensure compliance with Islamic law.

The Brotherhood debated similar ideas as recently as a few years ago.

This year, however, the Freedom and Justice Party has sought a middle approach. Its platform calls for Egypt’s Supreme Constitutional Court to rule on compliance with Shariah. But that stance is essentially without consequence because the court already had that power under Mr. Mubarak, and the judiciary is a bastion of liberalism whose views of Islamic law are highly flexible, to say the least.

“Religious scholars’ guardianship over political life is completely unacceptable,” Mohamed Beltagy, another leader of the Brotherhood’s party, said in an interview. “Nobody could speak in the name of the heavens or the name of religion. We don’t accept tyranny in the name of religion any more than we accept tyranny in the name of the military.”

His party’s position, he argued, was in reality no different from the Center Party’s, though he acknowledged that his view was considered “debatable” within the Brotherhood.

Photo: The banner reads: “Not Salafism nor Brotherhood, my religion is Freedom” [Reuters]

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17 responses to “Egypt’s Vote Exposes an Islamist Divide on Religious Rule”

  1. In the time when Dubai and Qatar are becoming open society with all attractions you could imagine, you hae the country Egypt that use to be the leader in movie production and TV, and singing , even Cairo Zoo was at one time the biggest in the world , you have now the dark ages coming.Stoning women ? are yo serious, try to stone one Egyptian women and you’ll see what will happen , a revolt that will leave no IKHWENJI Alive . And by the way there is over 10 million copt , do they have to be ruled by Islamic Shariia. Islamic group calls  lately are similar to Nazi Germany. .Thy want 10 million Copt to be AHl Zimme. Let’s hope the army beat the crap out of all the Islamist ,they dont deserve to be in politics!!!

  2. In the time when Dubai and Qatar are becoming open society with all attractions you could imagine, you hae the country Egypt that use to be the leader in movie production and TV, and singing , even Cairo Zoo was at one time the biggest in the world , you have now the dark ages coming.Stoning women ? are yo serious, try to stone one Egyptian women and you’ll see what will happen , a revolt that will leave no IKHWENJI Alive . And by the way there is over 10 million copt , do they have to be ruled by Islamic Shariia. Islamic group calls  lately are similar to Nazi Germany. .Thy want 10 million Copt to be AHl Zimme. Let’s hope the army beat the crap out of all the Islamist ,they dont deserve to be in politics!!!

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar

    A ‘specialized council of religious scholars ‘ …. which means the beginning of the secret police, and revolutionary ‘guards’ who guard against ‘the people’ and the freedom they wanted. Bad enough to have them determining if what the elected government wishes is ‘allowable’ to do, but imagine them trying to figure out the ‘world stage’ with any kind of diplomacy or understanding.

  4.  Avatar

    A ‘specialized council of religious scholars ‘ …. which means the beginning of the secret police, and revolutionary ‘guards’ who guard against ‘the people’ and the freedom they wanted. Bad enough to have them determining if what the elected government wishes is ‘allowable’ to do, but imagine them trying to figure out the ‘world stage’ with any kind of diplomacy or understanding.

  5.  Avatar

    A ‘specialized council of religious scholars ‘ …. which means the beginning of the secret police, and revolutionary ‘guards’ who guard against ‘the people’ and the freedom they wanted. Bad enough to have them determining if what the elected government wishes is ‘allowable’ to do, but imagine them trying to figure out the ‘world stage’ with any kind of diplomacy or understanding.

  6.  Avatar

    A ‘specialized council of religious scholars ‘ …. which means the beginning of the secret police, and revolutionary ‘guards’ who guard against ‘the people’ and the freedom they wanted. Bad enough to have them determining if what the elected government wishes is ‘allowable’ to do, but imagine them trying to figure out the ‘world stage’ with any kind of diplomacy or understanding.

  7. wargame1 Avatar

    Since they win the election by the people they will govern the country but a true Islamic rule cant be expected at this moment because there are many division among the Muslims due to the “divide and rule” policy by the Zionist. They not only divide the country but also create division among Muslims, creating many sects , sponsoring them at the same time to destroy Islam from within. 

    The earliest conspiracy started when A Jew named Abdullah Ibn Al Saba started the Shia movement by calling Khalifa Ali as God ! Ali ordered to burn him alive and Saba fled but the activities of Saba didnt stop. Then we get Kadiani whos head office is in London, and many other sects. This is the reason now Islam is having problem to unite.
     
    Well this is a good starter as we now comprehend that Islam is peoples choice.Now those people who voted for the Islamic party will be disappointed for a while to see the mess in Islam. But its temporary and the situation will change. A leader like Salahuddin will unite the Muslim under one platform. At the moment the Muslims are fighting the invading pigs along with those impostor socalled Muslims NATO rats in Libya ,Shias in Afghanistan , in Iraq , the Free Syrian Army  is fighting the Nusayris, Hezbollah and Iran etc. Now Egyptians will also have to fight Hezbollah soon.There are few people who mock Islam at the same time like secularism(Satanism) are having a words of war against the Zionist.But they dont comprehend that those “secularism, nationalism and some other ism is the Zionist plant to divide us. 

    1. You are a fanatic hdiding under nice words , you are using the word pig by reference to Christians, you little dirty SOB, Who saved Kuwait other USA , who’s feeding Egypt other than USA and so on, the technology you are typing on to express your opinion is and was created by the Christians, no one is pig other than you and who is with you. If it wasnt to Europe the pig in Libya will be alive, and I tell you something , Europe or USA is not going to help Syria , and you will see the Syrian begging for intervention soon,Iraq no matter what got rid of a criminal , and i will tell you you little coakroach fanatic SOB, 10 million copt will not be subusued not you is Salafasit SOB and to all your Koran ,this is not Iran , and the togue that you refer to the Christian as pig ,one day is coming and will be chopped in pieces , you piece of crap!!!!

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        He blames the fact people do naturally think differently, and would like to express themselves independently, on those ever-nasty Zionists … where we might probably be better off to blame all those religious ‘camps’ for all the brain-washing some of us are trying to get away from.
        In those minds, any thought which deviates from what the ‘boss’ says proves we must be satanic, whoever we are. It’s the old ‘my way or the highway’ kind of thinking that continues all that humans do to each other .. and provides the fanaticism.
        Try not to be nasty to them .. it only feeds the fire that a ‘satan’ would enjoy.

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        The Egyptian people vote for the Islamic party so they dont need any approval from the satanist. You can try to suppress them with a military intervention which will be ugly. The technology is for sale , we are consumers.We buy which is available on the market. All the plastics are coming from OIL by the way and to produce it we need oil and gas driven energy. Libyan economy was great with a ZERO debt. So I dont have any problem with Gaddafi. Yes the desperate Syrian people might look for a NATO intervention but NATO brings death and destruction and they will only come when Assad is in trouble , so they can fix assad in power or some other chosen lackey.Syrian Assad regime save Kuwait by Sending ground troops? Do you know that Saud regime gives bilions of Dollar military aid to Assad regime? Christians are not pigs but the Zionist fake Christians and Fake Jews who invade middle east are pigs. Cool down because you are showing your true color. Who subdue 10 mill copt? The fear monger Western and Iranian regime tell you this and you believe it. Christians and the Jews lived in peace side by side but some minority group with over ambition to subdue Muslims with the aid of foreign power are the route of all evil. The alawites in Syria , The shia puppet regime in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Saudi satanic regime in the middle east are all good example. So do not give any allegiance to the foreign power and commit crime because foreign power will not be there to protect your evil rule for ever. Remember Salahuddin who disciplined the local collaborator and it was easy to drive the crusaders afterwards. New salahuddin  will come again inshallah and he is AL MAHDI! 

  8. wargame1 Avatar

    Since they win the election by the people they will govern the country but a true Islamic rule cant be expected at this moment because there are many division among the Muslims due to the “divide and rule” policy by the Zionist. They not only divide the country but also create division among Muslims, creating many sects , sponsoring them at the same time to destroy Islam from within. 

    The earliest conspiracy started when A Jew named Abdullah Ibn Al Saba started the Shia movement by calling Khalifa Ali as God ! Ali ordered to burn him alive and Saba fled but the activities of Saba didnt stop. Then we get Kadiani whos head office is in London, and many other sects. This is the reason now Islam is having problem to unite.
     
    Well this is a good starter as we now comprehend that Islam is peoples choice.Now those people who voted for the Islamic party will be disappointed for a while to see the mess in Islam. But its temporary and the situation will change. A leader like Salahuddin will unite the Muslim under one platform. At the moment the Muslims are fighting the invading pigs along with those impostor socalled Muslims NATO rats in Libya ,Shias in Afghanistan , in Iraq , the Free Syrian Army  is fighting the Nusayris, Hezbollah and Iran etc. Now Egyptians will also have to fight Hezbollah soon.There are few people who mock Islam at the same time like secularism(Satanism) are having a words of war against the Zionist.But they dont comprehend that those “secularism, nationalism and some other ism is the Zionist plant to divide us. 

  9.  Avatar

    Since they win the election by the people they will govern the country but a true Islamic rule cant be expected at this moment because there are many division among the Muslims due to the “divide and rule” policy by the Zionist. They not only divide the country but also create division among Muslims, creating many sects , sponsoring them at the same time to destroy Islam from within. 

    The earliest conspiracy started when A Jew named Abdullah Ibn Al Saba started the Shia movement by calling Khalifa Ali as God ! Ali ordered to burn him alive and Saba fled but the activities of Saba didnt stop. Then we get Kadiani whos head office is in London, and many other sects. This is the reason now Islam is having problem to unite.
     
    Well this is a good starter as we now comprehend that Islam is peoples choice.Now those people who voted for the Islamic party will be disappointed for a while to see the mess in Islam. But its temporary and the situation will change. A leader like Salahuddin will unite the Muslim under one platform. At the moment the Muslims are fighting the invading pigs along with those impostor socalled Muslims NATO rats in Libya ,Shias in Afghanistan , in Iraq , the Free Syrian Army  is fighting the Nusayris, Hezbollah and Iran etc. Now Egyptians will also have to fight Hezbollah soon.There are few people who mock Islam at the same time like secularism(Satanism) are having a words of war against the Zionist.But they dont comprehend that those “secularism, nationalism and some other ism is the Zionist plant to divide us. 

    1. You are a fanatic hdiding under nice words , you are using the word pig by reference to Christians, you little dirty SOB, Who saved Kuwait other USA , who’s feeding Egypt other than USA and so on, the technology you are typing on to express your opinion is and was created by the Christians, no one is pig other than you and who is with you. If it wasnt to Europe the pig in Libya will be alive, and I tell you something , Europe or USA is not going to help Syria , and you will see the Syrian begging for intervention soon,Iraq no matter what got rid of a criminal , and i will tell you you little coakroach fanatic SOB, 10 million copt will not be subusued not you is Salafasit SOB and to all your Koran ,this is not Iran , and the togue that you refer to the Christian as pig ,one day is coming and will be chopped in pieces , you piece of crap!!!!

      1.  Avatar

        He blames the fact people do naturally think differently, and would like to express themselves independently, on those ever-nasty Zionists … where we might probably be better off to blame all those religious ‘camps’ for all the brain-washing some are trying to get away from.
        In those minds, any thought which deviates from what the ‘boss’ says proves we must be satanic, whoever we are. It’s the old ‘my way or the highway’ kind of thinking that continues all that humans do to each other .. and provides the fanaticism.
        Try not to be nasty to them .. it only feeds the fire that a ‘satan’ would enjoy.

      2.  Avatar

        The Egyptian people vote for the Islamic party so they dont need any approval from the satanist. You can try to suppress them with a military intervention which will be ugly. The technology is for sale , we are consumers.We buy which is available on the market. All the plastics are coming from OIL by the way and to produce it we need oil and gas driven energy. Libyan economy was great with a ZERO debt. So I dont have any problem with Gaddafi. Yes the desperate Syrian people might look for a NATO intervention but NATO brings death and destruction and they will only come when Assad is in trouble , so they can fix assad in power or some other chosen lackey.Syrian Assad regime save Kuwait by Sending ground troops? Do you know that Saud regime gives bilions of Dollar military aid to Assad regime? Christians are not pigs but the Zionist fake Christians and Fake Jews who invade middle east are pigs. Cool down because you are showing your true color. Who subdue 10 mill copt? The fear monger Western and Iranian regime tell you this and you believe it. Christians and the Jews lived in peace side by side but some minority group with over ambition to subdue Muslims with the aid of foreign power are the route of all evil. The alawites in Syria , The shia puppet regime in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Saudi satanic regime in the middle east are all good example. So do not give any allegiance to the foreign power and commit crime because foreign power will not be there to protect your evil rule for ever. Remember Salahuddin who disciplined the local collaborator and it was easy to drive the crusaders afterwards. New salahuddin  will come again inshallah and he is AL MAHDI! 

  10. Fauzia45 Avatar

     Hope to see the rise of modern states ;where all the people are citizens (women and men) who have their rights ;the right to practice their religious beliefs ,freedom to express and write their beliefs,ideas and opinions,where all are protected from fear,poverty and disease,where all people have a say and share their country s wealth,where all have opportunities ,where there is justice ,where all are protected by law, where no one is above the law,where people have the right to a dignified life!!!

  11.  Avatar

     Hope to see the rise of modern states ;where all the people are citizens (women and men) who have their rights ;the right to practice their religious beliefs ,freedom to express and write their beliefs,ideas and opinions,where all are protected from fear,poverty and disease,where all people have a say and share their country s wealth,where all have opportunities ,where there is justice ,where all are protected by law, where no one is above the law,where people have the right to a dignified life!!!

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