Jumblatt: We must forget justice for the sake of stability

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During an interview with MTV on Monday Progressive Socialist Party leader MP Walid Jumblatt denied that he has betrayed former slain Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

” The new Angels ( a possible reference to March 14 leaders) are charging me of betraying Rafik Hariri… I did not betray Rafik Hariri and will not betray him . I speak as an observer. I am for justice and truth but in some cases,we must forget justice for the sake of stability.” Jumblatt whose father was assassinated by the Syrians said

“My theory is that stability and justice should go together, because should justice lead to instability we would not be doing justice to Rafik Hariri,” Jumblatt added.

He added: “I have not changed my position towards the Special Tribunal for Lebanon, but there is misunderstanding about this court. They say that it is not politicized , but since 2005 until this moment it is the focal point because the assassination of Hariri was political …the decision to establish the court took 7 minutes.”

Jumblatt stressed that the new cabinet is committed to and respects international resolutions . He said there is a campaign aimed at stripping PM Nagib Mikati of his ‘patriotism and Sunni identity’.

He cautioned his new allies about committing the” big mistake” of ” cutting off funding for STL , severing relations with STL or withdrawing the Lebanese judges from STL

Addressing the controversial issue of Hezbollah’s weapons, Jumblatt said: “The arms are a threat to Hezbollah, because you are telling a party and a major religious sect after all their suffering give me your arms ..as if they are a foreign body” . He added it is therefore their right to doubt the intentions of the court and the demands over disarming them”. He said “let’s give them the benefit of a doubt” adding “I strongly believe the only way to resolve all this doubt is through dialogue.”

“If a certain group believes that Hezbollah might be involved in the assassination, we must talk with them and sit with them around the dialogue table,” he said adding that he disagreed with Hezbollah chief ‘s statement that he won’t allow the detention of his members in 300 years because of a plot against his party…Jumblatt suggested that Nasrallah should address the issue of Hariri’s assassination directly with the Sunni majority because this issue is very sentimental for them”

Jumblatt stressed that “ history has taught us that no party can eliminate its rivals in this country, no matter how strong it may be.”

Commenting on the shift in his political alliances , Jumblatt said the thought of switching first came up on May 11, 2008 ( following the failed attempt by Hezbollah to occupy the Druze stronghold of Mt Lebanon ) but stressed that his new political alignment “spared the country a Druze-Shiite strife .

Jumblatt who was elected by March 14 voters during the 2009 elections defected officially from the March 14 (three months after the Der Spiegel report of May 2009 revealed that Hezbollah was behind Hariri’s murder) for fear over a Shiite -Sunni strife if Hezbollah members were indicted by the STL. But the Sunnis of Lebanon have proved him wrong so far . Not one shot was heard , not one tire was burnt and not one road was blocked in the mainly Sunni areas of Beirut, Tripoli or Sidon and Lebanon maintained its calm since the indictment was announced .

The Special Tribunal for Lebanon issued the indictments in the assassination of Lebanon’s former PM Hariri on June 30. An STL delegation met with Lebanon’s state prosecutor Said Mirza and handed him a copy of the Lebanon portion of the indictment and the arrest warrants. Two of the suspects Mustafa Badreddine and Salim Ayyash are reportedly senior members of the Iranian and Syrian-backed Hezbollah while the other two Hassan Aneissy, also known as Hassan Issa, and Assad Sabra played a supporting role in the execution of the assassination

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah denounced on several occasions the court as a conspiracy by the U.S. and Israel and said last year that the group “will cut off the hand” of anyone who tries to arrest its party members linked to the February 14, 2005 bombing that killed Hariri and 22 others.

Lebanon has 30 days to find and arrest the suspects but Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah said on July 2 that the party would not cooperate with the tribunal.

“No Lebanese government will be able to carry out any arrests whether in 30 days, 30 years or even 300 years.”

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30 responses to “Jumblatt: We must forget justice for the sake of stability”

  1. dm9076 Avatar

    No justice means no stability.

    Don’t challenge the people as justice belongs to them and not for you to comment upon.

  2. dm9076 Avatar

    No justice means no stability.

    Don’t challenge the people as justice belongs to them and not for you to comment upon.

  3.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    No justice means no stability.

    Don’t challenge the people as justice belongs to them and not for you to comment upon.

  4. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    This man, sadly, is the ‘father of bullshit’.

  5.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    This man, sadly, is the ‘father of bullshit’.

  6. dm9076 Avatar

    Does anybody know any Lebanese Facebook group for the people with no political affiliation.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Try this one … 🙂  Put periods where spaces are and usual preface

      Usual here.. and colon//www facebook com/feshkhel2ak

  7. dm9076 Avatar

    Does anybody know any Lebanese Facebook group for the people with no political affiliation.

  8.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Does anybody know any Lebanese Facebook group for the people with no political affiliation.

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Try this one … 🙂  Put periods where spaces are and usual preface

      Usual here.. and colon//www facebook com/feshkhel2ak

  9. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Sorry … but do you see this as very strange logic?

    “ history has taught us that no party can eliminate its rivals in this country, no matter how strong it may be.”
    Well … let us ignore a great deal of history for a moment … This may be true in the sense that there is always another ‘son’ to take up a gun for revenge … and thus, in an endless cycle of belief that revenge is a good thing, there is no elimination  … but isn’t that what Hezzbolla promotes against Israel and does all the time in Lebanon? Including against those who believe Hezzbolla is wrong? And then, can we not say they look forward to eliminating their ‘rivals’? For sure they do not do it through scientific logical debate, but by being ‘strong’ with guns . So … ‘strong’ is a viable thing to be, no?

    When everyone thinks they are stronger than the National Army, and thus threatens it’s existence, what will history teach us then?

    “My theory is that stability and justice should go together, because should justice lead to instability we would not be doing justice …. ”
      He’s losing me here.  Hmmm ….
    So … instability could be justice, but having no justice might make us all stable? Better to throw justice out the window? What does he think the so-called ‘Arab Spring’ is all about? Instability, or justice? I suppose if people are happy under dictators, and do not seek justice, they will prove to be stable.

    “…. the assassination of Hariri was political …the decision to establish the court took 7 minutes.”
    Of course it was political. AND OF COURSE a decision to really investigate the atrocity took a very short time – after 2 years … because the cabinet (people) of the time, which could not avoid the instability the event created, but which was still enraged by the event  – was looking for justice, could not get it in Lebanon, and sent it to a place where the politics could not interfere with an investigation, and where questions and answers would not be known until the investigation was finished. 

    But wait … he doesn’t want STL to be ignored or ‘cut off’ … unless the justice creates instability … in which case we should chat with Nasrallah … whew ! My mind is going.

    ” … there is a campaign aimed at stripping PM Nagib Mikati of his ‘patriotism and Sunni identity’.”
    Nobody is stripping a Sunni Identity … I am sure he still goes to the ‘right’ mosque … although it seems he was an American Expatriate Businessman brought in to be a ‘mediator’ between 2 sides – when Hezzbolla overthrew an elected government and no-one could agree on who should do what as far as running a country was concerned after that. Being a businessman, he did a lot of horse-trading to make a cabinet of course … that’s not politics but business isn’t it?  And that might be considered patriotic if it could work. I guess it will work if we ignore justice or elections.

    “Jumblatt suggested that Nasrallah should address the issue of Hariri’s assassination directly with the Sunni majority because this issue is very sentimental for them”
      I fail to see ‘sentimental’ as being the right word here … something lost in translation perhaps?
    But isn’t the ‘issue’ about 22 other dead also? And many maimed and wounded? And about others who were targeted the same way around the same time? And about NEVER having it happen again??

    And really, I think Nasrallah did his little address already. We heard it. He’s against justice and truth … will not ‘give up’ suspects for fair trial … will not show his ‘evidence’ to trial defenders … will chop off hands … thinks the people of some countries are ‘justified’ in demonstrating, but not in other countries … and generally, is creating instability over the whole length of Lebanon. I don’t think we need another address.

    I have a feeling Jumblatt is very confused … sad thing … even thinks those who who dump on him are ‘new Angels’. What does that tell you?

    And if this is Progressive Socialism, which thinks stability can only be had by injustice, I’m going to attempt to avoid it. 
    Assad has been trying it, and it’s rather ugly.

    1. Elias Sukkar Avatar
      Elias Sukkar

      absolutely spot on!

    2. Elias Sukkar Avatar
      Elias Sukkar

      absolutely spot on!

  10.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Sorry … but do you see this as very strange logic?

    “ history has taught us that no party can eliminate its rivals in this country, no matter how strong it may be.”

    Well … let us ignore a great deal of history for a moment … This may be true in the sense that there is always another ‘son’ to take up a gun for revenge … and thus, in an endless cycle of belief that revenge is a good thing, there is no elimination  … but isn’t that what Hezzbolla promotes against Israel and does all the time in Lebanon? Including against those who believe Hezzbolla is wrong? And then, can we not say they look forward to eliminating their ‘rivals’? For sure they do not do it through scientific logical debate, but by being ‘strong’ with guns . So … ‘strong’ is a viable thing to be, no?

    When everyone thinks they are stronger than the National Army, and thus threatens it’s existence, what will history teach us then?

    “My theory is that stability and justice should go together, because should justice lead to instability we would not be doing justice …. ”

      He’s losing me here.  Hmmm ….

    So … instability could be justice, but having no justice might make us all stable? Better to throw justice out the window? What does he think the so-called ‘Arab Spring’ is all about? Instability, or justice? I suppose if people are happy under dictators, and do not seek justice, they will prove to be stable.

    “…. the assassination of Hariri was political …the decision to establish the court took 7 minutes.”

    Of course it was political. AND OF COURSE a decision to really investigate the atrocity took a very short time – after 2 years … because the cabinet (people) of the time, which could not avoid the instability the event created, but which was still enraged by the event  – was looking for justice, could not get it in Lebanon, and sent it to a place where the politics could not interfere with an investigation, and where questions and answers would not be known until the investigation was finished. 

    But wait … he doesn’t want STL to be ignored or ‘cut off’ … unless the justice creates instability … in which case we should chat with Nasrallah … whew ! My mind is going.

    ” … there is a campaign aimed at stripping PM Nagib Mikati of his ‘patriotism and Sunni identity’.”

    Nobody is stripping a Sunni Identity … I am sure he still goes to the ‘right’ mosque … although it seems he was an American Expatriate Businessman brought in to be a ‘mediator’ between 2 sides – when Hezzbolla overthrew an elected government and no-one could agree on who should do what as far as running a country was concerned after that. Being a businessman, he did a lot of horse-trading to make a cabinet of course … that’s not politics but business isn’t it?  And that might be considered patriotic if it could work. I guess it will work if we ignore justice or elections.

    “Jumblatt suggested that Nasrallah should address the issue of Hariri’s assassination directly with the Sunni majority because this issue is very sentimental for them”

      I fail to see ‘sentimental’ as being the right word here … something lost in translation perhaps?

    But isn’t the ‘issue’ about 22 other dead also? And many maimed and wounded? And about others who were targeted the same way around the same time? And about NEVER having it happen again??

    And really, I think Nasrallah did his little address already. We heard it. He’s against justice and truth … will not ‘give up’ suspects for fair trial … will not show his ‘evidence’ to trial defenders … will chop off hands … thinks the people of some countries are ‘justified’ in demonstrating, but not in other countries … and generally, is creating instability over the whole length of Lebanon. I don’t think we need another address.

    I have a feeling Jumblatt is very confused … sad thing … even thinks those who who dump on him are ‘new Angels’. What does that tell you?

    And if this is Progressive Socialism, which thinks stability can only be had by injustice, I’m going to attempt to avoid it. 

    Assad has been trying it, and it’s rather ugly.

    1. Elias Sukkar Avatar
      Elias Sukkar

      absolutely spot on!

  11.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Sorry … but do you see this as very strange logic?

    “ history has taught us that no party can eliminate its rivals in this country, no matter how strong it may be.”

    Well … let us ignore a great deal of history for a moment … This may be true in the sense that there is always another ‘son’ to take up a gun for revenge … and thus, in an endless cycle of belief that revenge is a good thing, there is no elimination  … but isn’t that what Hezzbolla promotes against Israel and does all the time in Lebanon? Including against those who believe Hezzbolla is wrong? And then, can we not say they look forward to eliminating their ‘rivals’? For sure they do not do it through scientific logical debate, but by being ‘strong’ with guns . So … ‘strong’ is a viable thing to be, no?

    When everyone thinks they are stronger than the National Army, and thus threatens it’s existence, what will history teach us then?

    “My theory is that stability and justice should go together, because should justice lead to instability we would not be doing justice …. ”

      He’s losing me here.  Hmmm ….

    So … instability could be justice, but having no justice might make us all stable? Better to throw justice out the window? What does he think the so-called ‘Arab Spring’ is all about? Instability, or justice? I suppose if people are happy under dictators, and do not seek justice, they will prove to be stable.

    “…. the assassination of Hariri was political …the decision to establish the court took 7 minutes.”

    Of course it was political. AND OF COURSE a decision to really investigate the atrocity took a very short time – after 2 years … because the cabinet (people) of the time, which could not avoid the instability the event created, but which was still enraged by the event  – was looking for justice, could not get it in Lebanon, and sent it to a place where the politics could not interfere with an investigation, and where questions and answers would not be known until the investigation was finished. 

    But wait … he doesn’t want STL to be ignored or ‘cut off’ … unless the justice creates instability … in which case we should chat with Nasrallah … whew ! My mind is going.

    ” … there is a campaign aimed at stripping PM Nagib Mikati of his ‘patriotism and Sunni identity’.”

    Nobody is stripping a Sunni Identity … I am sure he still goes to the ‘right’ mosque … although it seems he was an American Expatriate Businessman brought in to be a ‘mediator’ between 2 sides – when Hezzbolla overthrew an elected government and no-one could agree on who should do what as far as running a country was concerned after that. Being a businessman, he did a lot of horse-trading to make a cabinet of course … that’s not politics but business isn’t it?  And that might be considered patriotic if it could work. I guess it will work if we ignore justice or elections.

    “Jumblatt suggested that Nasrallah should address the issue of Hariri’s assassination directly with the Sunni majority because this issue is very sentimental for them”

      I fail to see ‘sentimental’ as being the right word here … something lost in translation perhaps?

    But isn’t the ‘issue’ about 22 other dead also? And many maimed and wounded? And about others who were targeted the same way around the same time? And about NEVER having it happen again??

    And really, I think Nasrallah did his little address already. We heard it. He’s against justice and truth … will not ‘give up’ suspects for fair trial … will not show his ‘evidence’ to trial defenders … will chop off hands … thinks the people of some countries are ‘justified’ in demonstrating, but not in other countries … and generally, is creating instability over the whole length of Lebanon. I don’t think we need another address.

    I have a feeling Jumblatt is very confused … sad thing … even thinks those who who dump on him are ‘new Angels’. What does that tell you?

    And if this is Progressive Socialism, which thinks stability can only be had by injustice, I’m going to attempt to avoid it. 

    Assad has been trying it, and it’s rather ugly.

  12. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    Waate, Khaayen, Kherfeen: 3 words to define you…

  13. Waate, Khaayen, Kherfeen: 3 words to define you…

  14. hayabusa666 Avatar
    hayabusa666

    Justice is God’s shadow on earth. will always prevail.

  15.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Have you noticed Ya Mr Juunblat that your your party has been eliminated long time ago by your rivals and so called friends, right after you were given the lowest ministries  in the country. 

  16. hayabusa666 Avatar
    hayabusa666

    Haven’t you noticed Mr Jumblat that you were already been eliminated by both, your rivals and so called friends by you getting the lowest ministries in the country??

    Stability is temporary without justice.

  17.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Haven’t you noticed Mr Jumblat that you were already been eliminated by both, your rivals and so called friends by you getting the lowest ministries in the country??

    Stability is temporary without justice.

  18. ajjoub Avatar

    This man’s cowardice, which oozes through every word he speaks lately, is nauseating… kalb soury

  19. ajjoub Avatar

    This man’s cowardice, which oozes through every word he speaks lately, is nauseating… kalb soury

  20. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    If you want stability,fight foe justice!!As Socrates said ,¨Nothing is to be preferred before justice ¨!

  21.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    If you want stability,fight foe justice!!As Socrates said ,¨Nothing is to be preferred before justice ¨!

  22. you betray the hall country never mind just hariri  and the first person was your own father kamal who was killed by assad ya baghel stop comment on stuffed that are to big for your kind you are to law stay thats way and forget about the bull you cam up with like we must forget justice for the sake of stability what stability are you talking about you thing once hizabllah take hold of your ass well he will let you and the druze stay in the mountains you stupid 

  23. you betray the hall country never mind just hariri  and the first person was your own father kamal who was killed by assad ya baghel stop comment on stuffed that are to big for your kind you are to law stay thats way and forget about the bull you cam up with like we must forget justice for the sake of stability what stability are you talking about you thing once hizabllah take hold of your ass well he will let you and the druze stay in the mountains you stupid 

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