Syrian FM denies Iran, Hezbollah helping regime put down unrest

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Syria’s foreign minister vowed Wednesday to present “an unprecedented example of democracy” in the country within three months, an extraordinary promise in a nation facing an uprising against an authoritarian system in place for decades.

Speaking during a televised news conference, Foreign Minister Walid Moallem’s comments were the latest attempt by the regime to blunt three months of widespread street protests against President Bashar Assad’s autocratic rule.

“We will offer an example of democracy,” Moallem said, when asked about his vision for Syria in three months. “There will be social justice, equality before the law and accountability.” His statements went beyond the vague promises of reform made by Assad in a nationally televised speech on Monday.

The news conference appeared designed to portray regime confidence and to cast doubt on the opposition at a time when Assad is coming under increased attack at home and abroad.

Moallem lashed out at the government’s critics, particularly Europe, which imposed sanctions on Assad and members of the leadership over its deadly crackdown on protesters.

The opposition estimates more than 1,400 Syrians have been killed and 10,000 detained as Damascus unleashed military and other security forces to crush the protest movement, which sprang to life in March inspired by the revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt.

The U.S. also has imposed sanctions, but the European move was a personal blow to Assad, who studied in Britain and made a high priority of efforts to bring Syria back into the global mainstream.

“We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us,” Moallem said. “The world is not just made up of Europe.”

He also denied that Syrian allies Iran and Hezbollah are helping the regime put down unrest. The U.S. has accused Iran of sending reinforcements and equipment to Syria.

“There is Iranian and Hezbollah political support for Syria to transcend this crisis and support for the reforms announced by President Bashar Assad,” he said. “But there is absolutely no military support on the ground.”

Assad has appeared in public just three times since the uprising began, most recently on Monday when he made general promises of reform that failed to satisfy the opposition, which at this point says it will accept nothing less than the downfall of the Assad family regime, in power for 40 years.

In that speech at Damascus University, the president said a national dialogue would start soon and he was forming a committee to study constitutional amendments, including one that would open the way to forming political parties other than the ruling Baath Party. He acknowledged demands for reform were legitimate, but he alleged once more than “saboteurs” were exploiting the movement. Opposition spokesmen dismissed the speech as too little, too late.

On Tuesday, the regime mobilized tens of thousands of its supporters, who converged on squares in several major cities. “The people want Bashar Assad!” some shouted, releasing black, white and red balloons — colors of the Syrian flag.

They soon clashed with opposition supporters, drawing in security forces. At least seven people were killed, activists said.

Although activists accused the regime of organizing the rallies and forcing people to attend, the fact that tens of thousands of people were on the streets was a reminder that Assad still enjoys support, although it is dwindling.

His main base is among the business elite and middle classes who have benefited from his economic policies, and among minority groups that fear being targeted if the Sunni Muslim majority takes over, replacing leadership drawn from Syria’s minority Alawites, an offshoot of Shia Islam.

Although the regime blames the unrest on foreign conspirators, the opposition insists there’s no foreign involvement, and the scattered nature of the protests appears to indicate broad grassroots support and little central planning.

The unrest has sent thousands of refugees fleeing into neighboring Turkey. The U.N. refugee agency said Tuesday that 500 to 1,000 people a day have been crossing from northern Syria into Turkey since June 7, and more than 10,000 were being sheltered by Turkish authorities in four border camps.

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34 responses to “Syrian FM denies Iran, Hezbollah helping regime put down unrest”

  1. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    moallem you are a liyer , if you hav,nt learned democracy in 50 years you are not going to learn it now ,its simple the donkey wo,nt fly but the birds do fly .
    best things to do resign and go home let some oneelse do the job

  2.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    muallam you are a liyer , if you hav,nt learn democracy in 50 years you are not going to learn it now
    best things to do resign and go home let some oneelse do the job

  3. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    i do,nt know why would any lebaneese should support this syrian regeme?
    30 years in lebanon ;they stole and rob and killed the lebaneese people, they installed groups and gangs to create chaos in lebanon and intimidate the lebaneese people , they have killed and assassinated over 10 of the best politicians the country have ,they have left 400,000 palestinians forigners armed on lebanon soil with heavy weapons,where in syria the palestinians are not allowed to not even own a aknife.
    they  have commited all kind of  crime against the lebaneese people ,murders robberies rape and kidnappings etc….
    they have left after 30 years the lebaneese governement in debth for over 40 billions dollars and devastated weak , and left an armed militia,s that listen to there cuase not the lebaneese cause ,they have used and used and abused lebanon for 30 years ,they have acted as lebanon worst ennemies for decades!!!!
    its black page in history where the devil had occupied lebanon for 30 years and the lebaneese will be blind not to see this

    1. george_shalhoub Avatar
      george_shalhoub

      Its the same people who objected when some Christians Militias were getting support from Israelis during the civil war. Same people are and have been getting support from Syria. I do not see any difference between the two countries. They both seek the destructions of Lebanon and could not careless about it. THe civil and the israelis support are in the past.. but i can’t understand why still lots of the March 8th support them other than they want to stay in power and have strong influence over other Lebanese. But Syria is implementing Iran Goals by supporting HA and crooks like Aoun. Its amazing how much AOun is attacking March 14th while most of HA members are being very quiet. that Orange boy is getting lots of money and the more he ups his rhetoric the more he gets paid.. What a lonely man and a freakin looser. Guess who will be shot first out of M8 by sunni extremits. The Clown Aoun and he won’t take anything with him to the grave. HA do not give a damn about Christians or having any clowns like Aoun in their organization other than to use them against their own enemies in lebanon and abroad.

      1. josephphdman Avatar
        josephphdman

        this syrian regeme had been lebanon worst ennemy ever in history of the two country ,they came in lebanon claiming to maintain the peace but it was a lie they have  conspired to destroy all forces in lebanon so,they could ocuppy the country, they have bombed the palestinians ,and bombed the sunnis murabetoon ,a d bombed the christians and any  other military force that existed in lebanon at that time , so they could occupy the country and sucks the economics benefits out of  bilions and bilions of dollars which left lebanon economy devastated and lebaneese governement in debtt over 40 billions dollars.
        talking about israel never intended to occupuy lebanon and never conspire against lebanon, israel  do,nt want any harm to the state of lebanon or to the lebaneese , the only reason they  enter lebanon because they have been attacked by the palestinians from inside lebaneese territory , so for israel it is only  acting in self defense ,your real ennemy here george who really destroyed your country and conspire to occupy it and rob its wealth and sucks all its economic resources is the syrian regeme. if the lebannese state disarm all foreigners and gangs ,who shell rockets on israel using lebanon territories ,israel will never attack lebanon and will never bother lebanon ,just give you  an example israel never attacaked egypt after egypt commited and sign a peace with israel and maitain a quiet border ;
        so here is the biggest victim in this whole equation mr george, is lebanon, and  the lebaneese people  lebanon had paid and still paying  heavy price with blood and money ,  billions of dollars ,its all for the palestinians cause ,why would a small coutry like lebanon pay a heavy price for problem which was not lebaneese problem ,why the palestinians do,nt own weapons  in syria and they neverr attacked israel from syrian land , but in lebanon they have rockets  and artillery , which is supplied by the syrian regeme  to attack israel from lebaneese territory ,which result in retaliations by israel and destruction of lebanon.

  4. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    i do,nt know why would any lebaneese should support this syrian regeme?
    30 years in lebanon ;they stole and rob and killed the lebaneese people, they installed groups and gangs to create chaos in lebanon and intimidate the lebaneese people , they have killed and assassinated over 10 of the best politicians the country have ,they have left 400,000 palestinians forigners armed on lebanon soil with heavy weapons,where in syria the palestinians are not allowed to not even own a aknife.
    they  have commited all kind of  crime against the lebaneese people ,murders robberies rape and kidnappings etc….
    they have left after 30 years the lebaneese governement in debth for over 40 billions dollars and devastated weak , and left an armed militia,s that listen to there cuase not the lebaneese cause ,they have used and used and abused lebanon for 30 years ,they have acted as lebanon worst ennemies for decades!!!!
    its black page in history where the devil had occupied lebanon for 30 years and the lebaneese will be blind not to see this

    1. george_shalhoub Avatar
      george_shalhoub

      Its the same people who objected when some Christians Militias were getting support from Israelis during the civil war. Same people are and have been getting support from Syria. I do not see any difference between the two countries. They both seek the destructions of Lebanon and could not careless about it. THe civil and the israelis support are in the past.. but i can’t understand why still lots of the March 8th support them other than they want to stay in power and have strong influence over other Lebanese. But Syria is implementing Iran Goals by supporting HA and crooks like Aoun. Its amazing how much AOun is attacking March 14th while most of HA members are being very quiet. that Orange boy is getting lots of money and the more he ups his rhetoric the more he gets paid.. What a lonely man and a freakin looser. Guess who will be shot first out of M8 by sunni extremits. The Clown Aoun and he won’t take anything with him to the grave. HA do not give a damn about Christians or having any clowns like Aoun in their organization other than to use them against their own enemies in lebanon and abroad.

  5.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    do,aneese nt know why would any lebaneese support this syrian regeme? just give a good reason
    30 years in lebanon ;they stole and rob and killed the lebaneese people, they installed groups and gangs to create chaos in lebanon and intimidate the lebaneese people , they have killed and assassinated over 10 of the best politicians the country have
    they  have commited all kind of  crime against the lebaneese people ,murders robberies rape and kidnappings etc….
    they have left after 30 years the lebaneese governement in debth for over 40 billions dollars and devastated weak , and left an armed militia,s that listen to there cuase not the lebaneese cause ,they have used and used and abused lebanon for 50 years ,
    its black page in history where the devil had occupied lebanon for 30 years and the lebaneese will be blind not to see this

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Its the same people who objected when some Christians Militias were getting support from Israelis during the civil war. Same people are and have been getting support from Syria. I do not see any difference between the two countries. They both seek the destructions of Lebanon and could not careless about it. THe civil and the israelis support are in the past.. but i can’t understand why still lots of the March 8th support them other than they want to stay in power and have strong influence over other Lebanese. But Syria is implementing Iran Goals by supporting HA and crooks like Aoun. Its amazing how much AOun is attacking March 14th while most of HA members are being very quiet. that Orange boy is getting lots of money and the more he ups his rhetoric the more he gets paid.. What a lonely man and a freakin looser. Guess who will be shot first out of M8 by sunni extremits. The Clown Aoun and he won’t take anything with him to the grave. HA do not give a damn about Christians or having any clowns like Aoun in their organization other than to use them against their own enemies in lebanon and abroad.

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        this syrian regeme had been lebanon worst ennemy ever in history of the two country ,they came in lebanon claiming to maintain the peace but it was a lie they have  conspired to destroy all forces in lebanon so,they could ocuppy the country, they have bombed the palestinians ,and bombed the sunnis murabetoon ,a d bombed the christians and any  other military force that existed in lebanon at that time , so they could occupy the country and sucks the economics benefits out of  bilions and bilions of dollars which left lebanon economy devastated and lebaneese governement in debtt over 40 billions dollars.
        talking about israel never intended to occupuy lebanon and never conspire against lebanon, israel  do,nt want any harm to the state of lebanon or to the lebaneese , the only reason they  enter lebanon because they have been attacked by the palestinians from inside lebaneese territory , so for israel it is only  acting in self defense ,your real ennemy here george who really destroyed your country and conspire to occupy it and rob its wealth and sucks all its economic resources is the syrian regeme. if the lebannese state disarm all foreigners and gangs ,who shell rockets on israel using lebanon territories ,israel will never attack lebanon and will never bother lebanon ,just give you  an example israel never attacaked egypt after egypt commited and sign a peace with israel and maitain a quiet border ;
        so here is the biggest victim in this whole equation mr george, is lebanon, and  the lebaneese people  lebanon had paid and still paying  heavy price with blood and money ,  billions of dollars ,its all for the palestinians cause ,why would a small coutry like lebanon pay a heavy price for problem which was not lebaneese problem ,why the palestinians do,nt own weapons  in syria and they neverr attacked israel from syrian land , but in lebanon they have rockets  and artillery , which is supplied by the syrian regeme  to attack israel from lebaneese territory ,which result in retaliations by israel and destruction of lebanon.

  6. george_shalhoub Avatar
    george_shalhoub

    For many years this jackass been denying that the Syrian gov’t interefering in Lebanon. He’s so good in denying I think he earned himself a degree in self-denial. This is the most annoying personality in the Syrian regime. I am against violance but I cannot wait to see someone light him on fire. Of course if his still alive afterward, he will deny ever getting burned lol.

  7. george_shalhoub Avatar
    george_shalhoub

    For many years this jackass been denying that the Syrian gov’t interefering in Lebanon. He’s so good in denying I think he earned himself a degree in self-denial. This is the most annoying personality in the Syrian regime. I am against violance but I cannot wait to see someone light him on fire. Of course if his still alive afterward, he will deny ever getting burned lol.

  8.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    For many years this jackass been denying that the Syrian gov’t interefering in Lebanon. He’s so good in denying I think he earned himself a degree in self-denial. This is the most annoying personality in the Syrian regime. I am against violance but I cannot wait to see someone light him on fire. Of course if his still alive afterward, he will deny ever getting burned lol.

  9. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Ten thousand refugees in Turkey alone … ten thousand being tortured or killed in jails … 1400 theoretically dead so far. Some day we might get accurate numbers – I suspect much higher. (At least it slows world population growth … lack of food being a problem these days.)
    “We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us,” Moallem said. “The world is not just made up of Europe.”
    South to hold hands with Gadaffi? (Get a boat.) East to China might be a bit of a stretch. Maybe the happy Kim Ill family of North Korea?
    At least he admits “There is Iranian and Hezbollah political support for Syria” …. chopping up 13 yr-old kids is ok I guess with them.
    I can see it will be “an unprecedented example of democracy” … as it is now.

  10. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Ten thousand refugees in Turkey alone … ten thousand being tortured or killed in jails … 1400 theoretically dead so far. Some day we might get accurate numbers – I suspect much higher. (At least it slows world population growth … lack of food being a problem these days.)
    “We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us,” Moallem said. “The world is not just made up of Europe.”
    South to hold hands with Gadaffi? (Get a boat.) East to China might be a bit of a stretch. Maybe the happy Kim Ill family of North Korea?
    At least he admits “There is Iranian and Hezbollah political support for Syria” …. chopping up 13 yr-old kids is ok I guess with them.
    I can see it will be “an unprecedented example of democracy” … as it is now.

  11.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Ten thousand refugees in Turkey alone … ten thousand being tortured or killed in jails … 1400 theoretically dead so far. Some day we might get accurate numbers – I suspect much higher. (At least it slows world population growth … lack of food being a problem these days.)
    “We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us,” Moallem said. “The world is not just made up of Europe.”
    South to hold hands with Gadaffi? (Get a boat.) East to China might be a bit of a stretch. Maybe the happy Kim Ill family of North Korea?
    At least he admits “There is Iranian and Hezbollah political support for Syria” …. chopping up 13 yr-old kids is ok I guess with them.
    I can see it will be “an unprecedented example of democracy” … as it is now.

  12. leb_expatriate Avatar
    leb_expatriate

    Sharon’s half brother wants to introduce a new concept of democracy one in which he always sits at the helm and for the people to shut up. Keep dreaming mate. 

  13. leb_expatriate Avatar
    leb_expatriate

    Sharon’s half brother wants to introduce a new concept of democracy one in which he always sits at the helm and for the people to shut up. Keep dreaming mate. 

  14.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Sharon’s half brother wants to introduce a new concept of democracy one in which he always sits at the helm and for the people to shut up. Keep dreaming mate. 

  15. kareemthehippy Avatar
    kareemthehippy

    It really is a shame that Lebanon has to be surrounded by two neighbors that have abusive and pathetic governments, ultimately making such an impact on our own.  Both lie and run society in such disgusting ways..and it’s a shame how one side is influenced by one, and the other influenced by the other.  A shot in the head or 2 stabs in the heart?

    1. eblashko Avatar
      eblashko

      The only difference is that of the two “pathetic governments”, one is tyrannical, brutal to its own subjects, and has been ruling for 40 years and the other was elected in a free and fair election, and continues to enjoy wide public support. 

      1. kareemthehippy Avatar
        kareemthehippy

        Well not neccesarily. While I am all for democracy and appreciate the existence of an active legislative branch/national assembly and free elections in Israel, I critique the actions of the government, and not judge it based on its foundation. For example, I think of Lebanon’s government and how despite it being (almost) entirely democratic (sectarianism spits on the face of true democracy mind you) , it isn’t doing anything . It’s doing more harm than good. On the other hand, Kuwait’s government, a constitutional monarchy (which has LOTS of flaws – 10 years of living there really taught me that), is at least making positive steps forward and parliament is beginning to work on things that will benefit Kuwaiti citizens and treat immigrants better and stateless citizens..etc

        Therefore, the way a government comes to power does give a (not entirely) clear outline to the nature of the government; however, it is more than just that. It’s not as simple.  I mean why is Saudi Arabia considered such a good and important ally to the US when it is tyrannical and brutal right? 😉

        1. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          I am guessing by the winky face that you’re no longer mad at me for my comments two weeks ago. I’m glad. I respect you and your opinions a lot and genuinely enjoy debating with you. And again, I’m sorry if I offended you last time. 

          You’re right that the way a government comes to power legitimately isn’t necessarily what’s best (e.g. Hamas). Like you said, Kuwait is a good example of the converse. So is, in many ways, places like Nassar’s Egypt, or Castro’s Cuba, or Lenin’s USSR (or even Khomenie’s Iraq). These were places where corrupt dictators were replaced with popular dictators who, although dictators, genuinely improved their countries. 

          However, in all of those cases, and I think perhaps in all  similar cases, that kind of thinking can only go so far. Farooq’s Egypt, Batista’s Cuba, the Shah’s Persia, and the Czar’s Russia were shit-holes. Terrible places with high poverty, awful conditions, and general hopelessness. In all three cases, it was a strong dictator who emerged, and improved the conditions of the oppressed. 

          However, as time went on, in each place, the new gradually became the old. Just like Orwell’s book “Animal Farm” where at the end, the pigs started acting just like the people, so too are the Ayatollahs acting like the Shas, did Mubarak act like the King, and does Putin (who is going to run unopposed for his third term) act like a Czar. 

          The only way to permanently safeguard the will of the people is through a transparent and responsible democracy. One with a balance of power between executive, legislative, and judicial branches. Where the populace doesn’t have to fear its government, but where the government is to fear its people (sorry to quote V for Vendetta, but I couldn’t resist). 

          And in this way, Israel cannot be criticized for its actions, ( I agree as terrible as they are) because the government was put there by people, and according to recent polls, enjoys more public support than it did upon election, gobbling up votes from the center. This could be because of the stellar economy, or perhaps because of the peace and quiet (most quiet 2 years we’ve had in a LONG time).

          And it’s really an ironic shame that that’s how the cookie crumbled. From 1995 until 2000, Israel was ruled by a left wing pro-peace government and the Palestinians were ruled by the terrorist Arafat, who refused the Camp David accords. Upon his refusal, the intifada broke out. Then, from 2005 until 2009, Israel was ruled by a centrist, pro-peace government, but the Palestinians were rigid and the American president was a right wing religious looney. And no progress was made. Then in 2009 the American president becomes a left wing guy, and all of a sudden the Palestinians are ready for peace, but in that same year, in response to their disillusionment and disappointment in our so called Palestinian Partner, the people of Israel have elected the most right wing government in the history of the state. Ironic no??

          Just think of how easily Camp David would have played out if instead of Arafat, we had Fayed, or how easily peace talk could be restarted as we speak if instead of Netanyahu, we had Livni. Peace was so close. Abu Mazen was just about the accept Olmert’s generous 2008 offer, which was the 1967 lines with mutual 1:1 swaps, and a division of Jerusalem. Unfortunately, he didn’t, and here we are today, with a bunch of Israelis who don’t think Palestinians are a serious about peace, and a bunch of Palestinians who don’t think Israelis are serious about peace, and most importantly, still no Palestine.

          If Abu Mazen wants to shock the world and embarres Netanyahu, all he has to do is present Olmert’s map to the UN this September as the final border instead of the rigid 1967 boders. He’d get the same amount of land, Netanyahu would not be able to claim the solution wasn’t “negotiated” and every nation on earth, including Israel, would have to accept it (with the exception of Iran) and America would have a hard time vetoing it even if they wanted too.

          Unfortunately, just as Netanyahu fears his people, so too does Abbas fear his, and neither men is willing to make the compromises necessary for peace. And Obama or Europe or Iran won’t be able to convince the Israeli people either. Only a strong pro-peace voice from the Arab world, like that of Anwar Sadat, would warm the hearts of my countrymen, and send their votes back to the left where they belong.

  16. kareemthehippy Avatar
    kareemthehippy

    It really is a shame that Lebanon has to be surrounded by two neighbors that have abusive and pathetic governments, ultimately making such an impact on our own.  Both lie and run society in such disgusting ways..and it’s a shame how one side is influenced by one, and the other influenced by the other.  A shot in the head or 2 stabs in the heart?

    1. eblashko Avatar
      eblashko

      The only difference is that of the two “pathetic governments”, one is tyrannical, brutal to its own subjects, and has been ruling for 40 years and the other was elected in a free and fair election, and continues to enjoy wide public support. 

      1. kareemthehippy Avatar
        kareemthehippy

        Well not neccesarily. While I am all for democracy and appreciate the existence of an active legislative branch/national assembly and free elections in Israel, I critique the actions of the government, and not judge it based on its foundation. For example, I think of Lebanon’s government and how despite it being (almost) entirely democratic (sectarianism spits on the face of true democracy mind you) , it isn’t doing anything . It’s doing more harm than good. On the other hand, Kuwait’s government, a constitutional monarchy (which has LOTS of flaws – 10 years of living there really taught me that), is at least making positive steps forward and parliament is beginning to work on things that will benefit Kuwaiti citizens and treat immigrants better and stateless citizens..etc

        Therefore, the way a government comes to power does give a (not entirely) clear outline to the nature of the government; however, it is more than just that. It’s not as simple.  I mean why is Saudi Arabia considered such a good and important ally to the US when it is tyrannical and brutal right? 😉

  17.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    It really is a shame that Lebanon has to be surrounded by two neighbors that have abusive and pathetic governments, ultimately making such an impact on our own.  Both lie and run society in such disgusting ways..and it’s a shame how one side is influenced by one, and the other influenced by the other.  A shot in the head or 2 stabs in the heart?

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      The only difference is that of the two “pathetic governments”, one is tyrannical, brutal to its own subjects, and has been ruling for 40 years and the other was elected in a free and fair election, and continues to enjoy wide public support. 

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        Well not neccesarily. While I am all for democracy and appreciate the existence of an active legislative branch/national assembly and free elections in Israel, I critique the actions of the government, and not judge it based on its foundation. For example, I think of Lebanon’s government and how despite it being (almost) entirely democratic (sectarianism spits on the face of true democracy mind you) , it isn’t doing anything . It’s doing more harm than good. On the other hand, Kuwait’s government, a constitutional monarchy (which has LOTS of flaws – 10 years of living there really taught me that), is at least making positive steps forward and parliament is beginning to work on things that will benefit Kuwaiti citizens and treat immigrants better and stateless citizens..etc

        Therefore, the way a government comes to power does give a (not entirely) clear outline to the nature of the government; however, it is more than just that. It’s not as simple.  I mean why is Saudi Arabia considered such a good and important ally to the US when it is tyrannical and brutal right? 😉

        1.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          I am guessing by the winky face that you’re no longer mad at me for my comments two weeks ago. I’m glad. I respect you and your opinions a lot and genuinely enjoy debating with you. And again, I’m sorry if I offended you last time. 

          You’re right that the way a government comes to power legitimately isn’t necessarily what’s best. Kuwait is a good example. So is, in many ways, places like Nassar’s Egypt, or Castro’s Cuba, or Lenin’s USSR (or even Khomenie’s Iraq). These were places where corrupt dictators were replaced with popular dictators who, although dictators, genuinely improved their countries. 

          However, in all of those cases, and I think perhaps in all  similar cases, that kind of thinking can only go so far. Farooq’s Egypt, Batista’s Cuba, and the Czar’s Russia were shit-holes. Terrible places with high poverty, awful conditions, and general hopelessness. In all three cases, it was a strong dictator who emerged, and improved the conditions of the oppressed. 

          However, as time went on, in each place, the new gradually became the old. Just like Orwell’s book “Animal Farm” where at the end, the pigs started acting just like the people, so too are the Ayatollah acting like the Shas, did Mubarak act like the King, does Putin (who is going to run unopposed for his third term) differ much from the Czar? 

          The only way to permanently safeguard the will of the people is through a transparent and responsible democracy. One with a balance of power between executive, legislative, and judicial branches. Where the populace doesn’t have to fear its government, but where the government is to fear its people (sorry to quote V for Vendetta, but I couldn’t resist). 

          And in this way, Israel cannot be criticized for its actions, ( I agree as terrible as they are) because the government was put there by people, and according to recent polls, enjoys more public support than it did upon election, gobbling up votes from the center. This could be because of the stellar economy, or perhaps because of the peace and quiet (most quiet 2 years we’ve had in a LONG time).

          And it’s really an ironic shame that that’s how the cookie crumbled. From 1995 until 2000, Israel was ruled by a left wing pro-peace government and the Palestinians were ruled by the terrorist Arafat, who refused the Camp David accords. Upon his refusal, the intifada broke out. Then, from 2005 until 2009, Israel was ruled by a centrist, pro-peace government, but the Palestinians were rigid and the American president was a right wing religious looney. And no progress was made. Then in 2009 the American president becomes a left wing guy, and all of a sudden the Palestinians are ready for peace, but in disillusionment, Israel has elected the most right wing government in the history of the state. Ironic no??

          Just think of how easily Camp David would have played out if instead of Arafat, we had Fayed, or how easily peace talk could be restarted as we speak if instead of Netanyahu, we had Livni. Peace was so close. Abu Mazen was just about the accept Olmert’s generous 2008 offer, which was the 1967 lines with mutual 1:! swaps, and a division of Jerusalem. 

          If Abu Mazen wants to shock the world and embarres Netanyahu, all he has to do is present Olmert’s map to the UN this September instead of the rigid 1967 boders. He’d get the same amount of land, Netanyahu would not be able to claim the solution wasn’t “negotiated” and probably, even America would have a hard time vetoing it.

          Unfortunately, just as Netanyahu fears his people, so too does Abbas fear his, and neither men is willing to make the compromises necessary for peace. And Obama or Europe or Iran won’t be able to convince the Israeli people either. Only a strong pro-peace voice from the Arab world, like that of Sadat, would warm the hearts of my countrymen, and send their votes back to the left where they belong. 

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          Anonymous

          I am guessing by the winky face that you’re no longer mad at me for my comments two weeks ago. I’m glad. I respect you and your opinions a lot and genuinely enjoy debating with you. And again, I’m sorry if I offended you last time. 

          You’re right that the way a government comes to power legitimately isn’t necessarily what’s best. Kuwait is a good example. So is, in many ways, places like Nassar’s Egypt, or Castro’s Cuba, or Lenin’s USSR (or even Khomenie’s Iraq). These were places where corrupt dictators were replaced with popular dictators who, although dictators, genuinely improved their countries. 

          However, in all of those cases, and I think perhaps in all  similar cases, that kind of thinking can only go so far. Farooq’s Egypt, Batista’s Cuba, and the Czar’s Russia were shit-holes. Terrible places with high poverty, awful conditions, and general hopelessness. In all three cases, it was a strong dictator who emerged, and improved the conditions of the oppressed. 

          However, as time went on, in each place, the new gradually became the old. Just like Orwell’s book “Animal Farm” where at the end, the pigs started acting just like the people, so too are the Ayatollah acting like the Shas, did Mubarak act like the King, does Putin (who is going to run unopposed for his third term) differ much from the Czar? 

          The only way to permanently safeguard the will of the people is through a transparent and responsible democracy. One with a balance of power between executive, legislative, and judicial branches. Where the populace doesn’t have to fear its government, but where the government is to fear its people (sorry to quote V for Vendetta, but I couldn’t resist). 

          And in this way, Israel cannot be criticized for its actions, ( I agree as terrible as they are) because the government was put there by people, and according to recent polls, enjoys more public support than it did upon election, gobbling up votes from the center. This could be because of the stellar economy, or perhaps because of the peace and quiet (most quiet 2 years we’ve had in a LONG time).

          And it’s really an ironic shame that that’s how the cookie crumbled. From 1995 until 2000, Israel was ruled by a left wing pro-peace government and the Palestinians were ruled by the terrorist Arafat, who refused the Camp David accords. Upon his refusal, the intifada broke out. Then, from 2005 until 2009, Israel was ruled by a centrist, pro-peace government, but the Palestinians were rigid and the American president was a right wing religious looney. And no progress was made. Then in 2009 the American president becomes a left wing guy, and all of a sudden the Palestinians are ready for peace, but in disillusionment, Israel has elected the most right wing government in the history of the state. Ironic no??

          Just think of how easily Camp David would have played out if instead of Arafat, we had Fayed, or how easily peace talk could be restarted as we speak if instead of Netanyahu, we had Livni. Peace was so close. Abu Mazen was just about the accept Olmert’s generous 2008 offer, which was the 1967 lines with mutual 1:! swaps, and a division of Jerusalem. 

          If Abu Mazen wants to shock the world and embarres Netanyahu, all he has to do is present Olmert’s map to the UN this September instead of the rigid 1967 boders. He’d get the same amount of land, Netanyahu would not be able to claim the solution wasn’t “negotiated” and probably, even America would have a hard time vetoing it.

          Unfortunately, just as Netanyahu fears his people, so too does Abbas fear his, and neither men is willing to make the compromises necessary for peace. And Obama or Europe or Iran won’t be able to convince the Israeli people either. Only a strong pro-peace voice from the Arab world, like that of Sadat, would warm the hearts of my countrymen, and send their votes back to the left where they belong. 

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    Anonymous

    It really is a shame that Lebanon has to be surrounded by two neighbors that have abusive and pathetic governments, ultimately making such an impact on our own.  Both lie and run society in such disgusting ways..and it’s a shame how one side is influenced by one, and the other influenced by the other.  A shot in the head or 2 stabs in the heart?

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