Lebanon military court indicts FPM official Fayez Karam

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Lebanese Military Investigative Judge Riad Abu Ghida issued an indictment on Thursday against Free Patriotic Movement official Fayez Karam. The judge requested a sentence of temporary hard labor, which could range from 3 to 15 years, based on article number 278 of criminal law.

Karam – who was arrested in August on suspicion of spying for Israeli was reportedly informing Israeli officers about meetings held between FPM leader MP Michel Aoun and Hezbollah officials, an unnamed judicial source said Thursday.

The source told Future News that Karam was meeting with the Israeli officers in France to inform them about the meetings.

Karam and Aoun went into exile in France following Aoun’s defeat by the Syrian army in 1990 and both returned to Lebanon in May 2005 , 11 days following the withdrawal of the Syrian army from Lebanon.

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57 responses to “Lebanon military court indicts FPM official Fayez Karam”

  1. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Al Akhbar web site was hacked by Saudis.lo
    All you see is a picture of the king and his brother dancing.lol

  2. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Al Akhbar web site was hacked by Saudis.lo
    All you see is a picture of the king and his brother dancing.lol

  3. Hannibal Avatar

    Temporary hard labor, from 3 to 15 years for spying for Israel? Give me a break! If you do not hang any collaborator with ANY country by their nuts this BS will continue. I say you collaborate with Israel you get hung by two nuts, you collaborate with Iran or Syria you get to hang by one nut. LOL

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      LOL hannibal.
      why are you not responding to my comments?

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        Responding to you being Shia by name? NO NEED LOL
        You are as much Shia as I am Maronite. 😛

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Ok Leave this alone before I get in trouble.lol
          I was referring to my comment in reply to your comment at: Wikileaks cable: Iran Telecom is taking over the country.

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Hannibal, That all depends on what we do with our religion identity.

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Hannibal, That all depends on what we do with our religion identity.

    2. kareemthehippy Avatar
      kareemthehippy

      I’m usually against the death penalty, but this is outrageously hilarious!

  4. Temporary hard labor, from 3 to 15 years for spying for Israel? Give me a break! If you do not hang any collaborator with ANY country by their nuts this BS will continue. I say you collaborate with Israel you get hung by two nuts, you collaborate with Iran or Syria you get to hang by one nut. LOL

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      LOL hannibal.
      why are you not responding to my comments?

      1. Responding to you being Shia by name? NO NEED LOL
        You are as much Shia as I am Maronite. 😛

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Ok Leave this alone before I get in trouble.lol
          I was referring to my comment in reply to your comment at: Wikileaks cable: Iran Telecom is taking over the country.

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Hannibal, That all depends on what we do with our religion identity.

    2.  Avatar

      I’m usually against the death penalty, but this is outrageously hilarious!

  5. PROPHET.T Avatar

    If He’s found guilty, He should severed the maximum sentence.
    Hanging people who betray their countries is very tempting, but I oppose capital punishments generally , because I don’t think any one has the right to take someone’s life. Justice is not served by Revenge .
    I might consider capital punishment when it comes to crimes against defenseless children and the elderly.

    1. PROPHET,
      As a Christian I have the most respect for HA. If it wasn’t for HA we will have Beirut controller by Alqaeda, Harriri’s followers. And Israel will still be violating the south daily. HA made mistakes but they are nothing compared to the rest of the gangsters. I guess the present government is trying trap HA to make another mistake but I think Nassralla is out maneuvering them. If it wasn’t for HA in the south, the innocent Christians would have been slaughtered and their houses destroyed like what happened in the Shoof 30 years ago. Stay the course HA, keep the Israelis and Alqaeda out of Lebanon. You can count on this Christian as a supporter.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Yes, leb,
        I’m from the area,and I know how they treated Christian towns after the liberation of 2000.I would not have expected anything different.I grew up with Christian kids, went to school with them, and glad to see the great relationship between both Christians and Muslims,despite 20 years of occupation,and Israeli instigations.I look forward to a day where all Lebanese live in harmony with each other,and get beyond sectarian differences.
        I look forward to the day where we don’t have to identify ourselves by our religions or sects.Maybe I’m dreaming.lol
        It’s a good dream any way.lol

        1. Libnan, finally a christian that makes me proud and understands whats going on!
          please tell those uneducated fools what exactley the shias did for the christians in the south!!!!

          cheers to you!

        2. Libnan, finally a christian that makes me proud and understands whats going on!
          please tell those uneducated fools what exactley the shias did for the christians in the south!!!!

          cheers to you!

        3. Prophet, have you read the wikileaks about the STL? and then people on this site think we’re crazt for thinking it is remoltey politicized!! lol

        4. Prophet, have you read the wikileaks about the STL? and then people on this site think we’re crazt for thinking it is remoltey politicized!! lol

        5. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Cathy, I don’t argue this point with anyone anymore. they know it is, and would never admit it. Many people have an agenda ,and would believe anything that would support their views.
          Everything about the STL is political. Once you have bellmare meeting with US ambassadors and asking for help or advice, the whole integrity of the investigation is up in the air.
          DId you hear about Israel’s sky spying system being out of commission the day of the assassination? what a coincidence,lol
          so don’t waste your time trying to convince those who are in denial.
          The funniest is when they say ;let’a wait for the indictment to come out, and we ‘ll look at the evidence. Like we don’t know what is in the ‘ secret’ indictment yet.lol

        6. lol prophet you’re totally right…no point of trying to convince those in complete denial….

          for Israel’s sky spying system, I haven’t heard of it actually…would you have a link or something?

          1. PROPHET.T Avatar

            I read it few places. I’ll keep you posted.I know it was in one of the leaked documents.

        7. lol prophet you’re totally right…no point of trying to convince those in complete denial….

          for Israel’s sky spying system, I haven’t heard of it actually…would you have a link or something?

          1. PROPHET.T Avatar

            I read it few places. I’ll keep you posted.I know it was in one of the leaked documents.

        8. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Cathy ,
          I’m still looking for the document that talks about Israel’s areal intelligence system being out of order the day of Hariri’s assassination. Alakhbar website is still down.My access is limited right now.
          Any one that still believes that the UNIIIC,and te STL are independent,and not politicized, must read this document. It clearly shows that Daniel Bellemare was sharing and seeking information with US ambassador.He is discussing the fate of the four generals ,and seeking direct assistance from the US with his investigation of Syria.
          USUN FOR WOLFF/GERMAIN/SCHEDLBAUER
          NSC FOR MCDERMOTT
          E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/26/2019
          TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PTER, PINR, UNSC, LE, SY
          SUBJECT: LEBANON: UNIIIC COMMISSIONER ON THE FOUR GENERALS,
          REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SYRIA-LINKED INFORMATION
          REF: USUN NEW YORK 000044
          Classified By: Ambassador Michele J. Sison for reasons 1.4
          (b) and (d).
          SUMMARY
          ——-
          1. (S/NF) UNIIIC Commissioner Daniel Bellemare explained to
          the Ambassador in a January 26 meeting the issues surrounding
          the release or transfer to The Hague of the four generals
          currently in Lebanese custody in connection with former PM
          Rafiq Hariri’s assassination. According to Bellemare, the
          Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) has 60 days starting March
          1 to request a transfer of the generals from Lebanese custody
          to the STL. Once they are transferred, Bellemare suspects he
          will face pressure by the STL to bring a case against the
          generals or release them. Replying “no comment” on whether
          he has enough evidence to bring a case, he nonetheless went
          on to say that if the judges were released in the
          Netherlands, he (and the Dutch) fear they could seek asylum
          from the Dutch government. If Bellemare does not request the
          transfer, the Lebanese could continue to detain the generals,
          in the face of mounting public pressure, or release them.
          Bellemare stressed the need for information from the U.S. to
          assist him in his final investigations in Syria under Chapter
          VII authority. Bellemare also raised internal UN management
          issues that continued to soak up his time. End summary.

        9. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Cathy ,
          I’m still looking for the document that talks about Israel’s areal intelligence system being out of order the day of Hariri’s assassination. Alakhbar website is still down.My access is limited right now.
          Any one that still believes that the UNIIIC,and te STL are independent,and not politicized, must read this document. It clearly shows that Daniel Bellemare was sharing and seeking information with US ambassador.He is discussing the fate of the four generals ,and seeking direct assistance from the US with his investigation of Syria.
          USUN FOR WOLFF/GERMAIN/SCHEDLBAUER
          NSC FOR MCDERMOTT
          E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/26/2019
          TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PTER, PINR, UNSC, LE, SY
          SUBJECT: LEBANON: UNIIIC COMMISSIONER ON THE FOUR GENERALS,
          REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SYRIA-LINKED INFORMATION
          REF: USUN NEW YORK 000044
          Classified By: Ambassador Michele J. Sison for reasons 1.4
          (b) and (d).
          SUMMARY
          ——-
          1. (S/NF) UNIIIC Commissioner Daniel Bellemare explained to
          the Ambassador in a January 26 meeting the issues surrounding
          the release or transfer to The Hague of the four generals
          currently in Lebanese custody in connection with former PM
          Rafiq Hariri’s assassination. According to Bellemare, the
          Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) has 60 days starting March
          1 to request a transfer of the generals from Lebanese custody
          to the STL. Once they are transferred, Bellemare suspects he
          will face pressure by the STL to bring a case against the
          generals or release them. Replying “no comment” on whether
          he has enough evidence to bring a case, he nonetheless went
          on to say that if the judges were released in the
          Netherlands, he (and the Dutch) fear they could seek asylum
          from the Dutch government. If Bellemare does not request the
          transfer, the Lebanese could continue to detain the generals,
          in the face of mounting public pressure, or release them.
          Bellemare stressed the need for information from the U.S. to
          assist him in his final investigations in Syria under Chapter
          VII authority. Bellemare also raised internal UN management
          issues that continued to soak up his time. End summary.

    2. PROPHET,
      As a Christian I have the most respect for HA. If it wasn’t for HA we will have Beirut controller by Alqaeda, Harriri’s followers. And Israel will still be violating the south daily. HA made mistakes but they are nothing compared to the rest of the gangsters. I guess the present government is trying trap HA to make another mistake but I think Nassralla is out maneuvering them. If it wasn’t for HA in the south, the innocent Christians would have been slaughtered and their houses destroyed like what happened in the Shoof 30 years ago. Stay the course HA, keep the Israelis and Alqaeda out of Lebanon. You can count on this Christian as a supporter.

    3. I would like to ask a ? if HA is part of Lebanon how is it that every dollar they spend is in the south and no where else, if you visit Lebanon a Lebanese national can not enter thier area it is like fort knox. They run in the streets and hold guns like a gang as they did in 2008 almost taking over Lebanon if they are Lebanese and I am talking about HA why would you try to take over your country .

      “Hezbollah is the one that goes into the street and enters people’s houses, not America or France,” Andraos said.

      They have an army my god an army LEBANON has two armies. They have an army and the guns are not just pointed at Isreal but also at the Lebanese, does this make them part of the Lebanese way.
      Many things have happened in the past. ROME , OTTAMAN EMPIRE and so on must we rage war at them as well. Lets just keep fighting, my point as long as guns are directed at Isreal as the other way around peace will never be. My point is no one is right or wrong, I support no one but for peace to happen. Guns and threats need to stop and look to the future not the past.Past wars have happened look at Germay east and west, but when guns came down people live free and together.
      HA is a state in side a State. No country in the world has two armies even if the army carried knives that is not the point a country has one army and the other is an outlaw simple .I am not against the people just the political party( HA) and the reason for them been in Lebanon.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Master,
        I’ll be very brief. I won’t make this debate tit for tat, when I Know your mind is set on either, not wanting to, or not capable of understanding.Either way,it’s bad,and i’m not sure which is worse.
        If your “point is no one is right or wrong” then you can not understand politics, nor can you discuss issues with objectivity.Since you are not capable of figuring out right from wrong, I don’t expect much from this debate.
        Not to feel any guilt , I’ll give it my last try,and try to spell it out slowly; No party or sect can ever take over the whole country.So your dance with the taking over the country is mere propaganda scare tactic or paranoia;Both are bad, but could be treated if you are willing to admit them.
        I explained to you in many different ways that we never had a capable army to defend the country, but again, i’m not sure if you couldn’t or didn’t want to understand .Not wasting time to find out either.
        Just to be sure, I fulfilled my prophecy, I’ll try for the last time ;
        Having an aggressive state like Israel as a neighbor, is not an easy thing to live with. It’s a state that was built through terror and aggression, and continues to live through aggression. Lebanese need to defend their country anyway they can, until we have a national army , capable of doing the job. if you can explain to me how Lebanon could have liberated the south with out the resistance, I’ll send you a check.
        You keep saying a state within a state , when you have no idea what you are talking about.
        Give me a state that can defend itself,and an army that can defend and protect the nation against Israel, then I’ll go hand and hand with you, and disarm the resistance.Anything other than that, don’t waste your time responding to this comment.I’d say, take a introductory course in logic.
        Stop giving me the option of either death or death.
        .

      2. the only reason the “guns pointed” at lebanese in 2008 was because they were trying to dismantle their telecom system, which helped them stand up against israel’s aggression in 2006- and also they were right, the lebanese telecom system was infested with israeli spies…how do you want them to trust anyone, when the lebanese govt ALREADY abandoned them during the israeli invasion where they were paying the price, being massacred, not the snoby lebanese living in achrafieh or west beirut.

      3. the only reason the “guns pointed” at lebanese in 2008 was because they were trying to dismantle their telecom system, which helped them stand up against israel’s aggression in 2006- and also they were right, the lebanese telecom system was infested with israeli spies…how do you want them to trust anyone, when the lebanese govt ALREADY abandoned them during the israeli invasion where they were paying the price, being massacred, not the snoby lebanese living in achrafieh or west beirut.

  6. PROPHET.T Avatar

    If He’s found guilty, He should severed the maximum sentence.

    1.  Avatar

      PROPHET,
      As a Christian I have the most respect for HA. If it wasn’t for HA we will have Beirut controller by Alqaeda, Harriri’s followers. And Israel will still be violating the south daily. HA made mistakes but they are nothing compared to the rest of the gangsters. I guess the present government is trying trap HA to make another mistake but I think Nassralla is out maneuvering them. If it wasn’t for HA in the south, the innocent Christians would have been slaughtered and their houses destroyed like what happened in the Shoof 30 years ago. Stay the course HA, keep the Israelis and Alqaeda out of Lebanon. You can count on this Christian as a supporter.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Yes, leb,
        I’m from the area,and I know how they treated Christian towns after the liberation of 2000.I would not have expected anything different.I grew up with Christian kids, went to school with them, and glad to see the great relationship between both Christians and Muslims,despite 20 years of occupation,and Israeli instigations.I look forward to a day where all Lebanese live in harmony with each other,and get beyond sectarian differences.
        I look forward to the day where we don’t have to identify ourselves by our religions or sects.Maybe I’m dreaming.lol
        It’s a good dream any way.lol

        1.  Avatar

          Libnan, finally a christian that makes me proud and understands whats going on!
          please tell those uneducated fools what exactley the shias did for the christians in the south!!!!

          cheers to you!

        2.  Avatar

          Prophet, have you read the wikileaks about the STL? and then people on this site think we’re crazt for thinking it is remoltey politicized!! lol

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Cathy, I don’t argue this point with anyone anymore. they know it is, and would never admit it. Many people have an agenda ,and would believe anything that would support their views.
          Everything about the STL is political. one you have bellmare meeting with US ambassadors and asking for help or advice, the whole integrity of the investigation is up in the air.
          so don’t waste your time trying to convince those who are in denial.
          The funniest is when they say ;let’a wait for the indictment to come out, and we ‘ll look at the evidence. Like we don’t know what is in the ‘ secret’ indictment yet.lol

        4.  Avatar

          lol prophet you’re totally right…no point of trying to convince those in complete denial….

          for Israel’s sky spying system, I haven’t heard of it actually…would you have a link or something?

          1. PROPHET.T Avatar

            I read it few places. I’ll keep you posted.I know it was in one of the leaked documents.

        5. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Cathy ,
          I’m still looking for that document that talks about Israel’s areal intelligence system being out of work the day of Hariri’s assassination. Alakhbar website is still down.My access is limited right now.
          Any one that still believes that the UNIIIC,and te STL are independent,and not politicized, must read this document. It clearly shows that Daniel Bellemare was sharing and seeking information with US ambassador.He is discussing the fate of the four generals ,and seeking direct assistance from the US with his investigation of Syria.
          USUN FOR WOLFF/GERMAIN/SCHEDLBAUER
          NSC FOR MCDERMOTT
          E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/26/2019
          TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PTER, PINR, UNSC, LE, SY
          SUBJECT: LEBANON: UNIIIC COMMISSIONER ON THE FOUR GENERALS,
          REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SYRIA-LINKED INFORMATION
          REF: USUN NEW YORK 000044
          Classified By: Ambassador Michele J. Sison for reasons 1.4
          (b) and (d).
          SUMMARY
          ——-
          1. (S/NF) UNIIIC Commissioner Daniel Bellemare explained to
          the Ambassador in a January 26 meeting the issues surrounding
          the release or transfer to The Hague of the four generals
          currently in Lebanese custody in connection with former PM
          Rafiq Hariri’s assassination. According to Bellemare, the
          Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) has 60 days starting March
          1 to request a transfer of the generals from Lebanese custody
          to the STL. Once they are transferred, Bellemare suspects he
          will face pressure by the STL to bring a case against the
          generals or release them. Replying “no comment” on whether
          he has enough evidence to bring a case, he nonetheless went
          on to say that if the judges were released in the
          Netherlands, he (and the Dutch) fear they could seek asylum
          from the Dutch government. If Bellemare does not request the
          transfer, the Lebanese could continue to detain the generals,
          in the face of mounting public pressure, or release them.
          Bellemare stressed the need for information from the U.S. to
          assist him in his final investigations in Syria under Chapter
          VII authority. Bellemare also raised internal UN management
          issues that continued to soak up his time. End summary.

    2.  Avatar

      I would like to ask a ? if HA is part of Lebanon how is it that every dollar they spend is in the south and no where else, if you visit Lebanon a Lebanese national can not enter thier area it is like fort knox. They run in the streets and hold guns like a gang as they did in 2008 almost taking over Lebanon if they are Lebanese and I am talking about HA why would you try to take over your country .

      “Hezbollah is the one that goes into the street and enters people’s houses, not America or France,” Andraos said.

      They have an army my god an army LEBANON has two armies. They have an army and the guns are not just pointed at Isreal but also at the Lebanese, does this make them part of the Lebanese way.
      Many things have happened in the past. ROME , OTTAMAN EMPIRE and so on must we rage war at them as well. Lets just keep fighting, my point as long as guns are directed at Isreal as the other way around peace will never be. My point is no one is right or wrong, I support no one but for peace to happen. Guns and threats need to stop and look to the future not the past.Past wars have happened look at Germay east and west, but when guns came down people live free and together.
      HA is a state in side a State. No country in the world has two armies even if the army carried knives that is not the point a country has one army and the other is an outlaw simple dont need a PHD but it’s nice that I have one.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Master,
        I’ll be very brief. I won’t make this debate tit for tat, when I Know your mind is set on not understanding things.
        If your “point is no one is right or wrong” then you can not understand politics, nor can you discuss issues with objectivity.
        What you don’t understand is that in Lebanon , no party or sect can ever take over the whole country.
        I explained to you in many different ways that we never had a capable army to defend the country, but you don’t seem to understand .
        Having an aggressive state like Israel as a neighbor, is not an easy thing to live with. It’s a state that was built through terror and aggression, and continue to live through aggression. Lebanese need to defend their country anyway they can, until we have a national army , capable of doing the job.
        You keep saying a state within a state , when you have no idea what you are talking about.
        Once you can figure out wrong from right, then you can understand things a little better.

      2.  Avatar

        the only reason the “guns pointed” at lebanese in 2008 was because they were trying to dismantle their telecom system, which helped them stand up against israel’s aggression in 2006- and also they were right, the lebanese telecom system was infested with israeli spies…how do you want them to trust anyone, when the lebanese govt ALREADY abandoned them during the israeli invasion where they were paying the price, being massacred, not the snoby lebanese living in achrafieh or west beirut.

  7. What a joke we have half of the polies who speak to USA Isreal France and many other countries. The ???? is why. Because no one wants this gang HA in Lebanon who run through the streets to control it, does anyone see that as wrong. Some of you dont want to see this or talk about it, this gang is in Lebanon for the control of Lebanon and its people and freedom .

    Iran has lost a battle, but not the war. By entering the Maliki cabinet, Tehran has planted the seed for a Sadrist movement that promises to prosper in the future. Like in Lebanon, it took decades before Hezbollah could control the country.
    CONTROL THE COUNTRY I thought they where protectors LOLOLOLOLOLL

    HA is now part of Lebanese political system and by doing this the world see a future attack on Isreal as a Lebanese attack. HA can hide among the people and fight and so many children and women will die, this is them protecting Lebanon and Lebanese people. The aim of HA is not just the destruction of Isreal but also to take over Lebanon.
    Now if I was a pollie in Lebanon I would be worried for this collaborating would not be the only thing I would do, but when a gun is at your head or your families well I see why 90% of them who want to do it don’t.

    No Lebanese wants HA in Lebanon look at what they did 2 years ago they where at war with the Lebanese running the streets to take over, but Iran held them back for the right moment.

    THE biggots in this world are worse than a collaborator at least collaborators can read both pages of the book.

    1. Master
      You say that no Lebanese wants HA in Lebanon. So if they are (conservatively) 25% of Lebanon does that make them foreign? I get it that they get arms from Iran but who else would give them arms or who else would give arms to the Lebanese army for that matter? AND by arms I mean real weapons that can stand against any army. The stuff we get from the U.S. is a joke, I mean they send howitzers (draat 3al blaat) and hummers. What can you do with a humvee really? load it with TNT and blow yourself up?
      On another hand, they are well aware that their stunt against fellow Lebanese in 2008 cost them the election. I hope they never repeat it because this time around it will spell disaster for everyone.

      1. The point I am making is this, how many armies do we need in Lebanon HA is not part of Lebanon they are IRANIAN backed for one reason to take over Lebanon and use it as a battle field with Isreal they do not give a shit about Lebanon or it’s people. The running through the streets happens every day.

        “Hezbollah is the one that goes into the street and enters people’s houses, not America or France,” Andraos said.

        They HA have there own country inside Lebanon tell me is this OK.??
        .
        Fine if they have a business, but we are talking an army taking control of the Lebanese people, not the Lebanese army but Iran and Syrian army HA.
        I dont back any party but Freedom and a life for my people and the children is that to much.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar

          Master,Lebanon never really had an effective army. Lebanon has never been able to defend its territories with the official army you are talking about. Lebanon has never had the will and determination to defend its territories. Assuming there is a will, our Army has no teeth. No one is willing to arm the Lebanese armed forces to become an effective force to defend the country. What ever arms giving by the west is old, and useless. When you are not being defended by your own state/army, you have every right to defend yourself.Until we have an army capable of truly defending Lebanon, people have the right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression. With people like Mr. Murr in charge of our defense, it’s laughable to suggest that people would trust this army at all. Calling them Iranian is nothing but propaganda full of lies. People of south Lebanon are as Lebanese, if not more, than any other Lebanese. We need no certificate from you or any one else. Your suggesting that they are Iranian who came to Lebanon is not worth responding to.Where were you when big part of Lebanon was under occupation? You claim to back freedom for your country, and yet you are opposed to people who have and continue to defend the country.

        2. Master, I say to myself I will not use insults when posting but when I read stupidities like the ones you spew, I just can’t help myself.

          you have no idea whatsoever what you’re blabbing about. if it wasn’t for HA, your “country” would STILL be occupied by Israel.

          you people ignore or simply are ignorant of israeli expansionism and their real goals for the middle east along with sister america.

          Israel played the biggest con on all lebanese people, and a lot of them, sadly bought into it. they infiltrated the telecom system in lebanon like cockroaches and could have very well copied SIM cards and made phone calls themselves but making tracable to HA members…they killed hariri, and whoever was gonna be blamed, be it Syria or HA, was good for them either way. Heck they got both! first Syria was blamed categorically, hence syria is out of lebanon, now HA.

          I mean really how stupid are you people to even have to think about the fact that israel is manipulating every single aspect of what is going in lebanon?

          of christians have short term memory when it comes to who protected them and their churches….

          oh and Master as a christian myself, I tell you HA tej Rassak because they protected the area of Lebanon which the govt didnt give a **** about, without them, lebanon WOULD NOT BE 10452 km2
          they have as much right to lebanon as you do you imbecile

        3. Master, I say to myself I will not use insults when posting but when I read stupidities like the ones you spew, I just can’t help myself.

          you have no idea whatsoever what you’re blabbing about. if it wasn’t for HA, your “country” would STILL be occupied by Israel.

          you people ignore or simply are ignorant of israeli expansionism and their real goals for the middle east along with sister america.

          Israel played the biggest con on all lebanese people, and a lot of them, sadly bought into it. they infiltrated the telecom system in lebanon like cockroaches and could have very well copied SIM cards and made phone calls themselves but making tracable to HA members…they killed hariri, and whoever was gonna be blamed, be it Syria or HA, was good for them either way. Heck they got both! first Syria was blamed categorically, hence syria is out of lebanon, now HA.

          I mean really how stupid are you people to even have to think about the fact that israel is manipulating every single aspect of what is going in lebanon?

          of christians have short term memory when it comes to who protected them and their churches….

          oh and Master as a christian myself, I tell you HA tej Rassak because they protected the area of Lebanon which the govt didnt give a **** about, without them, lebanon WOULD NOT BE 10452 km2
          they have as much right to lebanon as you do you imbecile

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    What a joke we have half of the polies who speak to USA Isreal France and many other countries. The ???? is why. Because no one wants this gang HA in Lebanon who run through the streets to control it, does anyone see that as wrong. Some of you dont want to see this or talk about it, this gang is in Lebanon for the control of Lebanon and its people and freedom .

    Iran has lost a battle, but not the war. By entering the Maliki cabinet, Tehran has planted the seed for a Sadrist movement that promises to prosper in the future. Like in Lebanon, it took decades before Hezbollah could control the country.
    CONTROL THE COUNTRY I thought they where protectors LOLOLOLOLOLL

    HA is now part of Lebanese political system and by doing this the world see a future attack on Isreal as a Lebanese attack. HA can hide among the people and fight and so many children and women will die, this is them protecting Lebanon and Lebanese people. The aim of HA is not just the destruction of Isreal but also to take over Lebanon.
    Now if I was a pollie in Lebanon I would be worried for this collaborating would not be the only thing I would do, but when a gun is at your head or your families well I see why 90% of them who want to do it don’t.

    No Lebanese wants HA in Lebanon look at what they did 2 years ago they where at war with the Lebanese running the streets to take over, but Iran held them back for the right moment.

    THE biggots in this world are worse than a collaborator at least collaborators can read both pages of the book.

    1. Master
      You say that no Lebanese wants HA in Lebanon. So if they are (conservatively) 25% of Lebanon does that make them foreign? I get it that they get arms from Iran but who else would give them arms or who else would give arms to the Lebanese army for that matter? AND by arms I mean real weapons that can stand against any army. The stuff we get from the U.S. is a joke, I mean they send howitzers (draat 3al blaat) and hummers. What can you do with a humvee really? load it with TNT and blow yourself up?
      On another hand, they are well aware that their stunt against fellow Lebanese in 2008 cost them the election. I hope they never repeat it because this time around it will spell disaster for everyone.

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        The point I am making is this, how many armies do we need in Lebanon HA is not part of Lebanon they are IRANIAN backed for one reason to take over Lebanon and use it as abattle field with Isreal they do not give a shit about Lebanon or it’s people. The running through the streets happens every day.

        They have there own country inside Lebanon tell me is this ok
        .
        Fine if they have a business but we are talking an army taking control of the Lebanese people, not the Lebanese army but Iran and Syrian.
        I dont back any party but Freedom and a life for my people and the children is that to much.

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          Master,
          Lebanon never really had an effective army. Lebanon has never been able to defend its territories with the official army you are talking about. Lebanon has never had the will and determination to defend its territories.
          Assuming there is a will, our Army has no teeth. No one is willing to arm the Lebanese armed forces to become an effective force to defend the country. What ever arms giving by the west is old, and useless.
          When you are not being defended by your own state/army, you have every right to defend yourself.
          Until we have an army capable of truly defending Lebanon, people have the right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression. With people like Mr. Murr in charge of our defense, it’s laughable to suggest that people would trust this army at all.

          Calling them Iranian is nothing but propaganda full of lies. People of south Lebanon are as Lebanese, if not more, than any other Lebanese. We need no certificate from you or any one else. Your suggesting that they are Iranian who came to Lebanon is not worth responding to.
          Where were you when big part of Lebanon was under occupation? You claim to back freedom for your country, and yet you are opposed to people who have and continue to defend the country. This is hypocrisy at its best.

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          Master, I say to myself I will not use insults when posting but when I read stupidities like the ones you spew, I just can’t help myself.

          you have no idea whatsoever what you’re blabbing about. if it wasn’t for HA, your “country” would STILL be occupied by Israel.

          you people ignore or simply are ignorant of israeli expansionism and their real goals for the middle east along with sister america.

          Israel played the biggest con on all lebanese people, and a lot of them, sadly bought into it. they infiltrated the telecom system in lebanon like cockroaches and could have very well copied SIM cards and made phone calls themselves but making tracable to HA members…they killed hariri, and whoever was gonna be blamed, be it Syria or HA, was good for them either way. Heck they got both! first Syria was blamed categorically, hence syria is out of lebanon, now HA.

          I mean really how stupid are you people to even have to think about the fact that israel is manipulating every single aspect of what is going in lebanon?

          of christians have short term memory when it comes to who protected them and their churches….

          oh and Master as a christian myself, I tell you HA tej Rassak because they protected the area of Lebanon which the govt didnt give a **** about, without them, lebanon WOULD NOT BE 10452 km2
          they have as much right to lebanon as you do you imbecile

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