US presidential candidate tells Israel: “You are not that special “

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Jill Stein
BY: Nathan Guttman

Jill Stein has a message to Israel: Youโ€™re not that special.

The Green Party presidential candidate, who was raised Jewish, says she would take a tough love stance toward the Jewish state, slashing the $4 billion annual military aid package and pressing for a peace deal with the Palestinians.

Stein says her stance will actually make Israel safer by pushing for change.

โ€œI donโ€™t think weโ€™re doing Israel a favor by condoning a policy that makes Israel very insecure,โ€ Stein said during a Wednesday night town hall discussion hosted by CNN,.

Asked on CNN if sheโ€™d view Israel a special ally of the United States, Stein replied: โ€œI believe all our allies are special allies.โ€

Israel may not have much to worry about. Stein is trailing with less than 5% in the polls and is a prohibitive underdog to even make the presidential debates, which require a 15% showing in national polls.

Still, Stein is enjoying somewhat of a breakthrough week with the CNN event and other media appearances that have given her, along with her running mate Ajamu Baraka, a chance to present her views at length to a broader audience.

Later, in an interview the progressive Democracy Now network, Stein sought to make clear that she is not targeting only Israel.

โ€œWere not singling out anybody,โ€ Stein said, โ€œthis is a general standard of international law and human rights that our administration would apply to all countries.โ€

The Green Partyโ€™s presidential candidate added that โ€œif countries are in violation of international law and human rights, as Israel is for of its occupations, its home demolitions, its assassinations, and so on, that we will not support you, and right now we are supporting Israel to the tune of $8 million a day,โ€

She noted that the same rule applies to Saudi Arabia as well as other U.S. allies.

Trouble sleeping at night
Stein said Wednesday she doesn’t believe either mainstream candidate is fit for the White House, brushing aside criticism that her bid could help elect Donald Trump.

“I will have trouble sleeping at night if Donald Trump is elected. I will also have trouble sleeping at night if Hillary Clinton is elected. And as despicable as Donald Trump’s words are, I find Hillary Clinton’s actions and track record is very troubling,” said Stein, sitting alongside her running mate Ajamu Baraka at CNN’s Green Party town hall event.

donkey-elephant- rep dem 270 road mapThe third-party candidate blasted the logic that voters should discount her candidacy, and citing her opposition to money in politics, Stein said that her party stood alone on the national scene totally independent of corporate influence.

“We have the unique ability to actually stand up for what it is that the American people want, what everyday people want,” Stein said.

Stein, a retired medical doctor, environmental activist and musician, made a failed bid for the presidency in 2012, but this time around, she has said things are different.

The Green Party nominee has said she hopes to reignite and build upon the “political revolution” of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

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365 responses to “US presidential candidate tells Israel: “You are not that special “”

  1. Wow… Less then 5โ„… support….yep, these news are as troubling as the invasion from Mars.
    ๐Ÿ™‚

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      The support or not, she’s right and she’s Jewish.

      1. Jewish or not,less then 5โ„… of the population share her views ๐Ÿ™‚

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Because it’s a Green party

          1. “Because it’s a Green Party”
            It’s not because they are green, purple or yellow. It’s because they are a bunch of America-hating morons.
            I guess if you ran for public office, you’d poll at around 0.5%.

          2. William Avatar

            sooooo…free pot?

          3. It’s not morons like Jill Stein who are going to legalize pot. Unless I missed that Colorado was a Green Party stronghold.

          4. So…your argument is that most share her views yet object her cause she cares about the planet?
            Sorry…not buying it..and after all
            she is not even a side note on history page and will disappear as fast as a fart on a windy day.

          5. “So…your argument is that most share her views yet object her cause she cares about the planet?”
            Now that you put it like this, it does sound like a typical Hind argument. ๐Ÿ™‚

          6. To me,The rule for a constructive discussion is to really understand the person talking to..if it’s not clear, I ask

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            OK, i really don’t care about it as much as you.

        2. Oh Yeah Avatar

          That’s the main problem, when it is more important that its a Jew and less important that only 5% of the american population share her views.

          Jewish or not, more than 43% support Donald Trump – that shows what can happen in the USA if this Donald Trump have so many supporters.

          A naked Donald Trump statue popped up at Union Square and was quickly removed by city workers.
          http://video.nydailynews.com/?ndn.trackingGroup=90051&ndn.siteSection=nydailynews-new-york&ndn.videoId=31285644&freewheel=90051&sitesection=nydailynews-new-york&vid=31285644

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Were they sure his ass is as red as his face? :-)))
            (folks liked the tiny penis however … ;-))

          2. Oh Yeah Avatar

            I presume that your ass isn’t different. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            THAT is why we should all embrace ‘Nature’ … Could make instant judgements – at any age. Be Green and Clean to boot. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            How many headlines did Syrian boy get compared to Palestinian Syrian
            boy beheaded by US backed moretates? The @BBC even cropped out his face.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0d79d998dc3bf65ec6e33c79ba4a1b291dec38e23fea3c9e9a07dc8c151255b5.jpg

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Some pics just don’t have the ‘saleability’, I suppose … a floating body was somehow more ‘impactful’.
            Do you remember when I posted the ‘excellent-timing’ pic of the man desperately trying to do something to get help for his son after one of the mosque-bombings in Tripoli 3 years ago?? Everyone dumped on me for bringing some reality to light. I’ll repeat it … and add another at the same scene … but no-one wants to see what those ‘bombs’ actually do, do they. Almost as ‘nasty’ as what ‘they’ consider ‘porn’ – and to be cropped out..

          6. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Just ask Hazem Nusseibeh, he has straightened it out already.

          7. William Avatar

            Hahaha, hysterical. Those who survived the battle did tell their story and their testimonies are housed at Bir Zeit University in Ramallah. They vehemently denied a massacre took place there noting Israeli troops announced their presence and intention at 5am by loud speaker, and called for villagers to leave knowing a hundred or so irregular armed Arabs were staying in the village (can you say “human shield”?)

            The denied claims of assassinations against a wall, pregnant women whose stomachs were cut open with knives, and other brutality. They admitted some people go hurt in the battle between both sides but civilians were not targeted intentionally.

            Historians who claim this atrocity relied on Israeli accounts, not Arab ones, which just happened to be fabricated due to the power struggle between two opposing groups (how many times does this happen in Arab society, huh?), one of them being Ben Gurion’s party.

            Finally, Hazem Nusseibeh admitted in an interview on BBC in 1998 that the Deir Yassin story was a complete hoax, crafted and directed by Grand Mufti Al-Husseini who concocted this and other lies to draw in Arab armies to annihilate the Jews. Instead, it caused Arabs to flee out of fear without ever seeing a soldier.

            Nusseibeh called it the biggest blunder in the war.

            I guess the Independent never had time to check with its media counterpart.

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nusseibeh? BBC is owned by Zionists.
            You’re quoting ‘The Jewish virtual Library’? HaHaHaThe Deir Yassin Massacre

            by WILLIAM JAMES MARTIN

            “On April 9, 1948, members of the underground Jewish terrorist group, the Irgun, or IZL, led by Menachem Begin, who was to become the Israeli prime minister in 1977, entered the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin, massacred 250 men, women, children and the elderly, and stuffed many of the bodies down wells. There were also reports of rapes and mutilations. The Irgun was joined by the Jewish terrorist group, the Stern Gang, led by Yitzhak Shamir, who subsequently succeeded Begin as prime minister of Israel in the early โ€™80s, and also by the Haganah, the militia under the control of David Ben Gurian. The Irgun, the Stern Gang and the Haganah later joined to form the Israeli Defense Force. Their tactics have not changed”

            “The massacre at Deir Yassin was widely publicized by the terrorists and the numerous heaped corpses displayed to the media. In Jaffe, which was at the time 98 percent Arab, as well as in other Arab communities, speaker trucks drove through the streets warning the population to flee and threatening another Deir Yassin. Begin said at the time, โ€œWe created terror among the Arabs and all the villages around. In one blow, we changed the strategic situation.โ€.

          9. William Avatar

            hahaha “BBC is owned by Zionists”…..wow, and they are pretty hardcore anti-Israel but I guess unless they are 100% of the time, they must be “owned by Zionists”…those crafty buggers….

            So, you’re saying that the villagers of Deir Yassin, who claimed those things didn’t happen, are liars but the Ben Gurion report of the incident, in order to defame Begin and Shamir in what was a power struggle over the control of the official Israeli military and its govt, are factual.

            I never thought a Jewish version would be taken by Arabs over that of a fellow Arab, but I guess you pick and choose based on your own agenda….kinda like how you rejected Nusseibeh who, by all accounts, was never a Zionist.

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hahaha part 2.

            “From about 1938 on to the founding of Israel, Begin was the leader of the Irgun. That group regularly assassinated English soldiers in Palestine and frequently hung their booby-trapped bodies in public places. Under Begin, the Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946, killing 97 British civil servants. The Stern Gang, under Shamir, also assassinated the U.N. representative to Palestine, Count Bernadotte, in 1948.

            But Deir Yassin was not the only massacre by the Israeli Defense Force. That army, under Moshe Dayan, took the unarmed and undefended village of al-Dawazyma, located in the Hebron hills, massacred 80 to 100 of its residents, and threw their bodies into pits. โ€œThe children were killed by breaking their heads with sticks โ€ฆ The remaining Arabs were then sealed in houses, as the village was systematically razed โ€ฆโ€ (Nur Masalha, The Historical Roots of the Palestinian Refugee Question).”

          11. William Avatar

            So, the Irgun was bad because they targeted military personnel who routinely attacked Jews and their defense forces. Hmmm.

            You do know that Arab terrorists also targeted the Brits and did horrific things to their bodies and such, resulting in reprisals by the Brits to demolish part or all of a village, right?

            Deir Yassin didn’t happen, by admission of the Arabs themselves but why let facts get in the way of a nice tirade, huh?

            I read the account on Al-Dawazyma and no real proof was provided, except some 3rd party testimony. However, we do know that many villages hosted Arab irregulars and took up arms themselves to attack Jewish civilians all over the region. many claim these villages were peaceful and left out such context to claim such. Lydda was one example until further evidence was uncovered that not only did the residents take part in the fight, they chose to vacate the village rather than lay down weapons and remain peaceful, and were allowed to leave to an area.

            various Arab terrorists groups dotted the area including several that publicly aligned themselves with the N@zis and their final solution for Jews.

          12. What a perfect coincidence that Hitler visited Palestine and the Mufti. It was all planned you idiot. The theater of WWI liberated Palestine in collapsing the Ottoman Empire using the Dรถnmeh and Wahhabis after the Sultan refused to give it away to the Jews. WWII created the hostile environment for the Jews to migrate to Palestine. Everything was planned.

            And it wasn’t enough, you thugs stole thousands of babies from Mizrahis and WWII survivors. Filthy, despicable thugs – that’s what you are.

            “The shocking story of Israel’s disappeared babies — New information has come to light about thousands of mostly Yemeni children believed to have been abducted in the 1950s.”

            http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/shocking-story-israel-disappeared-babies-160803081117881.html

            “Israelโ€™s mysterious baby-stealing scandal extends to Holocaust survivors”

            https://www.rt.com/news/356374-israel-baby-stealing-holocaust-survivors/

          13. The Irgun was bad period. Terrorist bad.

            You conveniently forget the bombing of King David Hotel.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

            Let me guess, you have an moral, logic explanation for that too?

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I.N.U.T.I.L.E

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Again? Everybody can stage and fake, when its true Mossad has it’s experts.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8QqfZOlOJc

            Mohammed al-Dura’s Father Wins Slander Case Against Israeli in French Court
            http://www.haaretz.com/mohammed-al-dura-s-father-wins-slander-case-against-israeli-in-french-court-1.359038

          16. Rudy1947 Avatar

            It doesn’t help your cause by posting another fake.

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Haaretz is fake..you’re a fraud..and God is a Real Estate agent.. haha..!

          18. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The incident was fake. At first glance many jumped on it until questions went unanswered.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzsCBFhCsyY

          19. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Let me go, you go to hell with your insignificant paroting.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m93PjAPRgqQ

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            When there’s no truly independent OR TRUSTED Investigation of such debatable events occuring, this is the result … conclusion by concensus of ‘opinions’.
            One reason that Airplane crashes need to to done by Panels of Trusted Multi-country dispassionate Experts. And the whole Airline Industry had to agree on that. Otherwise, no-one would ever get money from Insurance Companies. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          21. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It was a ten year court case. I don’t want to talk about it anymore, it’s useless ๐Ÿ˜‰

          22. shloime Avatar

            the trial was about slander, not
            truth. “truth” is not a defence under french law. but haters don’t care to know the truth, when it’s easier to make facts up.

          23. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Sounds like ‘plea-bargains’ in USA, right? … Truth takes longer to argue in a court.
            And after those, makes it easier to figure which ‘chart&graph’ to add them to.

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “Haters” is good excuse.. i read that word a lot, what about your hatred.

          25. William Avatar

            you mean the hatred of the Arab superiority complex that dictates oppression and occupation of any non-Arabs and historical revisionism that has began centuries ago and continues to this day?

            Yeah, what’s not to like?

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            This is what US and Israel did in Falluja and Gaza Using them as Lab Rats for their armement Industry. You go roast in Hell.
            Falluja Depleted Uranium. Gaza White Phosphorus.

          27. William Avatar

            White phosphorous was used according to intl rules of usage, that was already determined. Israel chose to stop using it because of the potential civilian harm. Though it should be noted that Hamas began putting it in RPGs and shooting it at Israeli civilians intentionally.

            Wasn’t an experiment – such munitions are used often by many armies to light the skies at night and provide cover.

            Speaking of lab rats, seems like Hamas/PIJ experiments on Gazans themselves are going well…from IEDs to imploding tunnels to rockets that fall short and hit residential areas inside the Strip. No worries…all in the name of “resistance”, huh?

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Get re-lost, talking about tunnels in besieged open air prison..

            ‘APPLICABLE INTERNATIONAL, REGIONAL & NATIONAL LAW
            1980 Protocol on Incendiary Weapons

            The 1980 Protocol III on Incendiary Weapons of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons restricts use of incendiary weapons as a means or method of warfare during armed conflict.

            1993 Chemical Weapons Convention
            The 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention prohibits the development, production, stockpiling, transfer and use of chemical weapons and requires States Parties to destroy chemical weapon stockpiles.’

            http://www.weaponslaw.org/instruments/1980-protocol-on-incendiary-weapons/

          29. William Avatar

            What are you sharing here and what are you trying to tell everyone? White phosphorous is still being used today by armies and is legal in certain uses.

            What you describe here is the use of weapons on people and personnel anytime, which is not how white phosphorous was used. The protocol you cite is for things like Napalm, and Assad’s barrel bombs.

            and the 1993 Chem weapons convention refers to chem weapons. White phosphorous is not a weapon unless used as such and in the case of Israel, it was not used as such. This convention refers to nerve agents – like the kind Saddam dropped on the Kurds and Assad dropped in Syria.

            So, nice try to hyperbole.

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Saddam use poison gas furnished by Rumsfeld for the Saudi US Irak invasion of Iran. Assad didn’t drop nerve agents in Syria, it was furnished to ISIS by Prince Bandar..

            Human Rights Watch
            Rain of Fire
            Israel Unlawful Use of Phosphorus in Gaza.
            https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/iopt0309web.pdf

          31. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            William – Hind Abyad โ€ข an hour ago
            “What are you sharing here and what are you trying to tell everyone?”

            Humm..no good for you?

          32. The Retard is an internbational law expert now? Oy vey. You should stick with the Talmud and “The Matzo of Zion”. ๐Ÿ™‚

          33. The Palestinians and the rest of the ME had nothing to do with that happened to the Jews in Europe.

          34. William Avatar

            Except that the French network still refuses to hand over the raw footage and the German forensics researchers stand by their extensive report which shows the IDF could never have taken that shot unless they had magical bullets that turned corners and reversed direction.

          35. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            But that’s phosphorus.

          36. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I think it was a pile of instantly-inflamed entry-way carpet or other flammable material that got blown on to the boy. Or something else that came from the resultant fire nearby.
            Nevertheless, there’s not much skin left on parts … can’t say I saw a follow-up on him.
            The 2nd shot is from a Tripoli Press-news grab … also an instant death, I assume.
            I’ll add the general-scene shots to show how far the effects went … no glass left in apartments across the street. / A piece of someone’s arm or leg stuck on a car’s windshield …

          37. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Wicked retaliation for kidnap of 3 Israeli soldiers on disputed Shebaa Farms.
            “Hezbollah demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel in exchange
            for the release of the captured soldiers. Israel refused and launched a large-scale military campaign across Lebanon in response to the Hezbollah incursion”

          38. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yup … do the oil storage tanks along with the earth-berms to protect environment, and forget ‘Greening’ the planet. Smart folks, those ones. (Lebs lose food supply too.)Taking out ‘trade-bridges’ to Syria may not have been a totally bad idea … however I’m surprised they didn’t take out Assad too – which might have been beneficial to Lebanon.
            But of course … they don’t want that. They only think ‘Priority’.

          39. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Maybe now we’re better with Wests “moderate” Wahhabi allies!!

          40. William Avatar

            They can all rot in Hell, actually.

          41. William Avatar

            well, and Hizbullah also launched rockets on several Israeli cities as cover for the kidnapping from Israeli territory. The Israeli retaliation was not only to uproot the Hizbullah infrastructure in Southern Lebanon but block weapons transfers by plane and airport infrastructure.

            and for that, Israel got many more Hizzie bodies and prisoners who provided great intelligence info, and Lebanon got torn up with 12,000 UNIFIL foreigners on their soil.

            Now Nasrallah knows the price of his folly and has been quiet ever since. That’s why he apologized to Lebanon for his folly.

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Get lost tiered.. old troll. Israels ponding Gaza as we speak
            Israeli Air Force launches 30+ airstrikes over Gaza

            “According to the IDF Spokesperson, a rocket fired from Gaza landed near a family home in the city of Sderot on Sunday afternoon, resulting in a harsh response from the Israeli Armed Forces. No casualties or damages were reported in Sderot; however, in retaliation for the rocket attack, the Israeli Armed Forces chose to bomb the densely populated neighbourhoods inside Gaza City.”

            Doe this resemble a stupid Hamas rocketa?

          43. William Avatar

            30+ airstrikes??? Where did you get this from?

            The IDF and Pally sources both claimed only 3, not 30…and in response to rockets from Gaza which came for no reason.

            and you forgot to mention….NO casualties in Gaza from the IDF response. If its so crowded, I guess we know two things….

            1) Hamas/PIJ uses human shields (a war crime) by firing rockets from heavily populated areas, and

            2) The IDF must be doing something right to nail Hamas infrastructure and not cause one injury in the densely populated neighborhood.

          44. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Sharon created Hamas go imPAL yourself

          45. William Avatar

            Actually, Hamas was founded by Arabs with an affiliation to the Muslim Brotherhood. They started as a social service wing.
            Israel believed they could be a good counter-balance to the then violent PLO – and with two parties, like in any democracy, could bring balance to the situation and produce a positive force of representation of Pallys for negotiations.

            However, being MB’s as they are, Hamas took the route of terrorism over social service and made their prime goal to be the destruction of Israel and every Jew in the area….oh, and replace it with an Islamic State.

            yep, Israel was wrong on this account because they believed Pallys wanted a better life for themselves and peace. We know better today….Jew-hatred trumps logical thinking.

          46. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

            “Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.

            Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction”.The Wall Street Journal
            http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847

          47. Wrong. Hamas was created by IsraHell to thwart the PLO. Known, old fact.

          48. What about the part of her comment that asked you:

            “Doe this resemble a stupid Hamas rockets?”

          49. It was war, of course you launch rockets and kidnap soldiers as prisoners (expect Hezbollah returns them charred). The use of phosphorus is illegal by international standards. But there again, you thugs don’t obey any law. You came as thugs and you will as such.

          50. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Israel Admits Using Phosphorus Bombs During War in Lebanon

            Lebanon had claimed munitions used against civilians;
            Minister: Bombs used in accordance with int’l law;
            http://www.haaretz.com/israel-admits-using-phosphorus-bombs-during-war-in-lebanon-1.203078

          51. William Avatar

            You missed a key word in that question….”Palestinian”. If a Pally is in the news, the media is all over it. If any other Arab is slaughtered, no one touches it. The Syrians have been complaining about this since the conflict began, with global media, world capitals, and the UN ignoring their plight.

          52. What are you talking about? You rarely hear about the killing of Palestinians to being with.

            The current “war” with ISIS is the perfect pretext for IsraHell to continue stealing lands and killing its inhabitants.

            ps – IsraHell supports ISIS.

          53. William Avatar

            Hahaha – dead Pallys are constantly in the news…often portrayed as “Palestinian killed by Israel” without the mention that he stabbed two people before hand and lunged for a security officer. Oh those little contextual nuances….they do get in the way of the truth sometimes.

            If israel were killing so many of them, where are their names and evidence of such? Heck – both Hamas and PA leaders send their families to Israeli hospitals for excellent care while blocking it for their own people. I bet that cost some lives!

            Speaking of stolen land – don’t think the 1949 Arab illegal annexation and ethnic cleansing of Judea/samaria was forgotten. It’s still a war crime under geneva convention which also permits cleansed populations (Jews) to return to said land, especially to the specific homes they have land deeds for.

            Scream all you want…the idea of Pally independence is down the drain and the best they can hope for is what they had in 1964…a confederation with Jordan with autonomy. Could be why they (Palestinians) were purposely never mentioned in UNR242.

          54. Keep stealing, killing and oppressing. If you’re okay with it, not sure what else to say. Step one foot in Lebanon and it will be a different story.

          55. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Khalas

          56. William Avatar

            Already have been in Lebanon, already have taken care of business, and will do it again. Remember – its Nasrallah in a bunker, not Israelis.

            and as Israel stated recently, those Pallys who step out of line will be smacked back in,. Those who act peaceful will be rewarded.

          57. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yes, as tank gunner, we don’t need your warnings.

          58. You mean those who bend over will not die.

          59. “Heck – both Hamas and PA leaders send their families to Israeli hospitals for excellent care while blocking it for their own people.”

            And IsraHell accepts? I know Hamas and PA leaders are corrupt but that seems like bs – or it’s not and it does confirm that IsraHell created Hamas to thwart the PLO.

          60. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hahaha, imbecile just took a new discus Friday.

          61. Most importantly, what is/are his other username(s). He only seems to address me and you.

          62. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ya, but i blocked the merry go round.

          63. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “Sociologists and psychiatrists say Palestinian youths were driven to suicide by the economic and social pressures of three decades of occupation, which they say have increased despite the historic peace accords with Israel’. Palestinian youth have no hope in the futur.

            One of Gideonโ€™s most recent articles for Haaretz included the following revealing and chilling paragraph.

            ‘The website Walla! published talkback comments on an article about the four children killed on the Gaza beach.’

            Shani Moyal: โ€œI couldnโ€™t care less that Arab children were killed, too bad it wasnโ€™t more. Well done to the IDF.โ€

            Stav Sabah: โ€œReally, these are great pictures. They make me so happy, I want to look at them again and again.โ€

            Sharon Avishi: โ€œOnly four? Too bad. We hoped for more.โ€Daniela Turgeman:
            โ€œGreat. We need to kill all the children.โ€

            Chaya Hatnovich: โ€œThere isnโ€™t a more beautiful picture than those of dead Arab children.โ€

            Orna Peretz: โ€œWhy only four?โ€

            Rachel Cohen: โ€œIโ€™m not for children dying in Gaza. Iโ€™m for everyone burning.โ€

            Tami Mashan: โ€œAs many children as possible should die.โ€

            If thatโ€™s not proof of how much many Israeli Jews have been dehumanized by occupation and the propaganda of their leaders I donโ€™t know what is.”

          64. Oh Yeah Avatar

            The global media get respond in the arab(muslim world) when they report about the infinity refugees, the palestinian arabs.
            The Iraqi and Syrian arabs dont “sale” so good – circulation and advertising revenue increases only with the news about the israelis atrocities….
            http://www.euronews.com/2016/08/22/multiple-israeli-air-strikes-hit-gaza-strip-after-palestinian-rocket-attack

          65. Who cares what haters say or think,the average man out there has eyes ,ears and something in between, he does not believe arabs are victims deserve protection from big bad Jews. He sees that the root of the ME strife is the arab Muslim culture and that Israel is only doing its best to survive in this arab vortex of violence.
            Haters can say what they want but their time influencing people is over, they are a click of self righteous busy patting each other on the back for imagined achievements.
            I could not care less about israel haters cause they do pretty good job eradicating themselves all by their own.

          66. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            ” He sees that the root of the ME strife is the arab Muslim culture and that Israel is only doing its best to survive in this arab vortex of violence.”, wow! I’ve really missed reading your garbage. I see you’re still living in a fantasy land.

          67. Not really but you do…
            The easy thing to do is to open your eyes and look around.
            Shia butcher sunnies,sunnies butcher shia and everybody is butchering minorities.

            In fantasy land you can find people who share your views, in the real world your a sad joke.

          68. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You’re truly a sad sad man. You’re a religious bigot just like all the other religious fanatics running around. You agreeing with an orangutan who panders to the xenophobic religious bigots and racist of America says a lot about you.

            Poor little innocent Israel thrust into the Arab vortex of death and destruction. You guys are so dumbfounded and have no idea how we got to where we are today. I mean you guys had nothing to do with anything going on around you. You guys were just minding your business in this rough neighborhood and here comes the vortex. You cling for survival with one of the worlds strongest air force, armed to the teeth citizenry with military training, nuclear bombs, and protection provided free of charge courtesy of the American tax payer. GTFO with that bullshit, you should be selling ice to the Eskimos.

          69. Laughed at religious bigot…
            The rest is nothing but predicted emotional out burst.
            No, israel is not weak,its strong enough to blow twice the ME ,withstand the counterattack at rebuild.we never did it..but we could ๐Ÿ˜‰
            However..it has nothing to do with the overwhelming ,unheard off before and seemingly unstoppable violence which is the plauge of arab Muslim society.
            We see it in Syria,iraq,yemman,lebanon,egypt,lybia,tunis, we see it in Europe nowadays and we’ve seen this in israel as well
            Here comes the part you missed: it’s all related to arabs and Muslims …you may not believe in logic and deductions but the average TV viewers do, and they can see the pattern as clear as you and I .
            So really…can you see why your words does not matter? It lakes the substance that only the truth can bring :

            And for that stupid comment about us manipulating arabs to fight each other etc, I’ll answer as I answered every conspiracy freak idiot that brought it up: if you are stupid enough to believe you are manipulated to fight your neighbor and yet you keep fighting then you are truly dumb enough to die while trying to kill him.
            As far as israel concerned, we’re busy building strong army,airforce and nukes cause it seems the best way to scare dumb neighbours away.

          70. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You laugh because its true, you can’t stand Muslims and hate them as much as you claim Muslims hate Jews.

            As to the rest of your blabber, every action has a reaction. I never said Israel is manipulating arabs, but to think that they’ve had no hand in the chaos engulfing the Middle East for the past 50 years is ignorant. To blame everything on Arabs and Muslims is even more proof that you’re a religious bigot with a hint of racism.

            The Western powers, Israel, and Russia have been playing games in the Middle East for quiet some time now. To deny that is simply lying. I’m not sure if you’re really that dumb or just willfully ignorant.

          71. “You can’t stand Muslims”

            Judging from what they are doing to each other, the Muslims can’t even stand themselves. Unless, of course, you believe, together with most of the Middle East, that it’s all somebody else’s fault. ๐Ÿ™‚

          72. I laugh because you have no idea who I am but you attribute me the same stereotype that society thought you that I must have ,you fool :)) the only thing I blame arabs for is conflicts and blood in which the Israeli arab conflict is just another conflict among others.
            You blame me for arab culture?lol…
            I’m the one to blame for chemical attacks?rapes? Deliberate starvation? Did I rally mercenaries from all over the world to fight in Syria?I paid for it??
            No, it’s all arabs doing and again, if you’re dumb enough to claim outsiders are the cause you behave like this then you truly deserve your fate.

          73. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You have no idea who I am either. I judge you and stereotype you based on your posts on this site for the past 2-3 years. Your words are your own are they not?

            I never blamed you for Arab culture, just pointed out your ignorance in putting all the blame on the Arabs and Muslims for all the chaos going on in the Middle East, its just simply not true.

            No you’re not to blame for all those things, and I never said you were. Playing victim again?

            “if you’re dumb enough to claim outsiders are the cause you behave like this then you truly deserve your fate.” I didn’t claim outsiders are the cause, but they sure have helped add fuel to the fire and at times offer up the kindling to get it going. You can’t absolve the Western powers, Israel, and Russia from any wrongdoing, if you can’t see that you’re the dumb one. We can go back to the arbitrary drawing of borders in the Middle East, the creation of the State of Israel, exodus of Palestinian refugees, the cold war, the Lebanese civil war, Iran Iraq war, first Gulf war, Second Gulf war, Libya, Yemen and so on. You want us to believe that Western powers, Israel , and Russia had nothing to do with any of those incidents? Are you delusional?

          74. Well, I was not talking about you when I posted my first comment man-o, you were not even in the discussion,were you?I was talking about arab culture not individuals.s once you are convinced I’m wrong, can you explain the readers why there is not a single successfull
            arab democracy? My argument is that you ,as a culture, are not mature enough to handle freedom and as recent history shows- everywhere the dictatorship leaves, falls into anarchy.

            Bush senior would not fight Iraq had sadam not invaded Kuwait.
            Bush junior would not invaded had it not been for 9-11, mind you, (which was an excuse but still, it happened).
            Had it not been for the Saudi invite,there would be no us bases in the country.
            Had it not been for the uprising in Bahrain, there would be no bloodshed there either.
            Russia would not enter Syria had they not been asked to by assad and Iran (btw, Iran is also a non arab out side force meddling in arab countries).
            in Yemen it’s the saudies and Iranian are waging war on the backs of the citizens there.
            In Egypt , ademocratic election brought a MB Sharia party to rule to be later overthrown by army- during that time, thousands die and most copt Christians chased away from the country.
            In Lebanon ,deadlocked presidential campaign brings the country to its knees, anarchy will soon follow and violance will follow that.
            That’s in the countries you rule.
            In Europe, Muslims blow up and shoot people in he name of religion… all that is Western manipulation?…sure..it’s never arab, man-o..behind every poor arab holding ak47 stands a vicious Western that squeeze the trigger…the arab?he is just standing there holding the gun…sure man-o….can you see why your claims are ridicules?
            It’s a bit of hipocracy blaming someone else for doing what you asked/paid him to do or worst, blaming him for actions you performed yourself….pitiful and laughable at the same time :)))

          75. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            “more than 43% support Donald Trump”, haha, not even close.

          76. Oh Yeah Avatar

            Let’s hope that it will be less, otherwise we have big problems.

        3. Hannibal Avatar

          Hmmmmm. You are forgetting the force behind Trump which is anti-zionist as well. That puts the support for Israel at a minority.

          Trump to Jewish donors: โ€˜I donโ€™t want your moneyโ€™

          1. “You are forgetting the force behind Trump….”

            Who is on that “force”? David Duke? Pat Buchanan? Milo Yiannopoulos? The KGB? The rednecks?

          2. Hannibal Avatar

            I am not debating who is nor their ethical or moral compass… Just listing the facts. As you know throughout history thugs ruled more so than “nice” people. Namely, Germany under the Nazis, current Lebanon’s political oligarchs, Israel’s (democratic) warmongers, George Dubya, etc.

          3. “I am not debating who is nor their ethical or moral compass… Just listing the facts. ”
            The problem with your (previous) comment was that you didn’t “list” anything at all, just mentioned some anonymous “force”. Hence my question, which had nothing to do with morality.

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Anonymous? Even the candidate himself and his supporters think this way… Before you ask which way? Yes to Jewishness (His daughter married a jew and converted to Judaism) but NO to Zionist oligarchs and THAT will work to your advantage when you stop flying blind. Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein are good jewish candidates but you won’t support them because?

          5. Sorry pal, this is largely meaningless mumbo-jumbo. I asked you what the “force” behind Trump is. Now you say that “even the candidate himself thinks this way”. And then immediately ask me why I wouldn’t vote for the demented Jill Stein (last time I checked, Sanders wasn’t even running). Answering a question with another question is a very Jooish thing, by the way. ๐Ÿ™‚

          6. Hannibal Avatar

            Oh GOD now we are ALL Jooz ๐Ÿ˜›

          7. I’m pretty sure you’re not, mate. Jooz happen to be quite picky as regards membership in the club. ๐Ÿ™‚

          8. Hannibal Avatar

            A sigh of relief ;P

          9. I knew I’d make you feel better. ๐Ÿ™‚

          10. Hannibal Avatar

            LOL

          11. Mybe,as far as I know he is .He is pragmatic capitalist though,a s long as he sees israel as a profitable investment, it will be fine.

          12. Hannibal Avatar

            He will sell everything by the pound ๐Ÿ˜›

          13. could it be that we face the greatest garage sale of all times? ๐Ÿ™‚
            I try to think Israel is a successfully business investment .I believe the us will still see it as such and if not, i believe we’ll find other investors.

          14. Hannibal Avatar

            Russia? India? China? Good Luck…
            I plan to invest in Syria after the idiots level it to the ground ๐Ÿ˜‰

          15. “I plan to invest in Syria after the idiots level it to the ground ;)”

            Why? It will still be inhabited by the very same idiots. ๐Ÿ™‚

          16. Hannibal Avatar

            Hopefully the idiots will die and the Syrian silent majority returns…

          17. The silent majority is either already in Germany, or on the way there. ๐Ÿ™‚

          18. Good luck with that. There were some companies selling cheap Iraqi dinar after bush Junior destroyed the country, the fools that bought it still wait for the investment to pay :).

      2. Yep, and you are a “Christian”. ๐Ÿ™‚

      3. William Avatar

        And there are many Muslims who happen to support Israel. So what’s your point?

        If Jill Stein was correct, there’d be more support for her, right? Not surprising that her political support is about the same as American support for “Palestinians”…single-digits. Isolation has its merits, I suppose.

  2. I’ll reiterate a comment I read recently about the US’s ally, IsraHell …

    The only real “bad ally” that the US has is Israel, which sells our top-secret military technology to China and undermines our efforts at bringing peace to the Middle East, wasting our treasure in ever more conflagrations.

    If we had “moral realism,” we would stop the IDF from murdering SEMITIC women and children in their yearly turkey shoots across Gaza. We all know the Gazans are unarmed. Why is it necessary to kill so many women and children in each of Israel’s freak-outs, using American weaponry supplied by American taxpayers.

    It’s disgusting that the Israelis have bought and chained our Congress. Israel tells our representatives and senators how to vote. Yes, Israel is the only real “bad ally” that the US has, since Israel works against the US, chipping away at our vision of a moral and peaceful world. There’s real devilry in Israel’s heart. Recognize the devil for who he is. Israeli!

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      “We all know the Gazans are unarmed”, that’s a lie. They are greatly overpowered, but not unarmed.

      1. Palestinian children, teenagers and woman are armed?

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Obviously I don’t think the children are armed, the other two groups I can’t know for sure. If I was them I’d be armed. 18-19 year olds are technically teenagers, I could see them being armed.

          1. Armed with what exactly? Kitchen knifes? Botton line: the coward IDF vs Palestinian civilians is not fair match.

          2. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The the PaliArabs should try something different, like living in peace.

          3. As if the degenerate Likud wants Peace.

          4. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The opportunities have been there, but the PaliArabs are still waiting for the Islamic Cavalry to come to the rescue and to rid the land of Israel. The efforts for that to happen have been thwarted.

          5. Both sides can be blamed.

          6. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Blamed? For what?

          7. For the lack of Peace today.

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I’m out….can’t take Ruths dialogues anymore.

          9. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Perhaps these coupons will help.

            http://www.pepto-bismol.com/en-us/coupons

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “The PaliArabs” again. Yalibnan allows racists help contribute to the “Community”.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The the PaliArabs..

          12. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            AK-47, M-14, short and medium range rockets, grenades, home made explosives.

            Yes, the IDF vs Unarmed civilians is not fair at all. Even when you look at armed Palestinians vs. IDF it’s not a fair fight. If you include the IAF into the mix it’s over. Not even close. It’s why the Palestinians fight from within densely populated areas, for air cover. They are forced to fight an unconventional war. Israel usually gets frustrated and just bombs with little to no regard for civilian casualties. Same thing happened in Lebanon, out of frustration they tend to lean towards collective punishment.

          13. Precisely. The comment I quoted was in reference to “unarmed Gazans’ – as in the IDF attacks and kills everyone. Not sure what was/is the point of your reply/comment.

          14. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Because what was said in your post isn’t entirely true. It’s misleading on purpose.

          15. The quote comment is 99% true. Is there something else you disagree with?

          16. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            It might be 99% true, but that leaves 1%. No that’s all, otherwise I would have pointed it out when I read the post.

          17. I think you’re trying to find a dent where there is none. The “unarmed Gazan” was in reference to the killing of unarmed civilians by armed IDF and/or an extrapolation.

          18. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The Israeli trolls here (firstly Rudy1948) will say the video is fake as he said Deir Yassin massacre didn’t happen.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axxn0tjS-U

          19. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The Deir Yassin battle occurred, the massacre is a fake.

          20. Fake? Are you drunk?

            The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi attacked Deir Yassin, a Palestinian Arab village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to retaliate against the blockade of Jerusalem by Palestinian Arab forces during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine. The Palestinians tried to resist the attack, but the village fell after fierce house-to-house fighting. … During and after the battle for the village, at least 107 Palestinians were killed, including women and childrenโ€”some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes

          21. Rudy1947 Avatar

            “The video focuses on an interview with Hazem Nusseibeh, a member of one of Jerusalemโ€™s most prominent Arab families. In 1948 he was an editor of the Palestine Broadcasting Serviceโ€™s Arabic news.In this interview with the BBC he admits that in 1948 he was instructed by Hussein Khalidi, a prominent Palestinian Arab leader, to fabricate claims of atrocities at Deir Yassin in order to encourage Arab regimes to invade the expected Jewish state. He made this damming admission in explaining why the Arabs failed in the 1948 war. He said โ€œthis was our biggest mistakeโ€, because Palestinians fled in terror and left the country in huge numbers after hearing the atrocity claims.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONrI_-qexNw

          22. The only thing that can be argued is how many Palestinians were massacred. That is it.

            “The photos clearly show there was a massacre,” says Daniel McGowan, a US retired professor who works with Deir Yassin Remembered. “Those photos show [villagers] lined up against a quarry wall and shot.

            After the dust had settled, Mr Zidain and the other survivors counted the missing among them, and concluded that 105 Palestinians had died in Deir Yassin, not the 250 often reported. Four Jews were killed. But the damage was already done. The reports from Deir Yassin led to a total collapse of morale, and many historians regard the incident as the single biggest catalyst for the Palestinians’ flight. By UN estimates, 750,000 Palestinians had fled their homes by the end of the 1948 War of Independence, roughly 60 per cent of Palestine’s pre-war Arab population.

            Mention Deir Yassin these days to most young Israelis and it will fail to register. Not far from the Kfar Shaul hospital, two teenage boys shake their heads at a question on Deir Yassin. Never heard of it, they say.

            “Most Israelis treat the subject with total silence,” says Professor McGowan. “They no longer deny it, they just don’t talk about it.””

            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/a-massacre-of-arabs-masked-by-a-state-of-national-amnesia-1970018.html

          23. Rudy1947 Avatar

            In fact it was a heavily armed Arab village harboring some foreign militants who together with the villagers were attacking nearby Jewish neighborhoods and traffic on the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway. The village held a strategic position and thus a military target.

          24. You passed from “no massacre” to now “a military target”. Why do you keep turning around the bush? There was a massacre.

          25. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Big difference. In war battles are fought, people will die and strategic positions will be won. Dear Yassin was a battle the Arabs lost, not a massacre.

          26. “The photos clearly show there was a massacre,” says Daniel McGowan, a US retired professor who works with Deir Yassin Remembered. “Those photos show [villagers] lined up against a quarry wall and shot.”

            You call the line of line up against a wall to be shot a “battle”? Get real.

          27. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Watched a Pallywood video the other day and the picture Deir Yassin was used for a supposed other battle or was it the other way around. I’ll try to find it for you.

          28. Are you back saying that it never happened?

          29. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Nope.

          30. Your very first comment was “the massacre is a fake.”

            At last, you got back to your sense and admit it happened.

          31. Rudy1947 Avatar

            As I said before, the battle occurred, but it was not a massacre. The Arabs lost the battle and the PR backfired.

          32. A battle is a sustained fight between large, organized armed forces.

            Deir Yassin was a brutal invasion and massacre of Palestinian villagers. I don’t agree with Palestinians today for using for using photos of other similar events to document the massacre of Deir Yasmin but they have no other choice as all the written and photographic evidence/documentation is in IsraHell’s military archives. If it was not a massacre, why doesn’t IsraHell release everything? Because …

            Defending its right to keep the documents under wraps, the Israeli state has argued that their publication would tarnish the country’s image abroad and inflame Arab-Israeli tensions.

            Whatever little declassified photos show that it was a massacre …

            “The photos clearly show there was a massacre,” says Daniel McGowan, a US retired professor who works with Deir Yassin Remembered. “Those photos show [villagers] lined up against a quarry wall and shot.”

            Something confirmed by Meir Pa’il …

            Among the documents believed to be in the state’s possession is a damning report written by Meir Pa’il, a Jewish officer who condemned his compatriots for bloodthirsty and shameful conduct on that day. Equally incriminating are the many photographs that survive.

          33. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Deir Yassin was a town that held the high ground with a strategic view of a main supply road. It was defended by militia forces and used the advantage of that high ground against the Jews. By taking the town the Jews gain the advantage and remove the threat from the supply road and adjacent areas. Simple strategy. After all, the Arabs enjoyed the advantage until they lost is.

          34. Were you a baker before you retired? You’re good a sugar coating.

          35. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Nothing sugar coated about a battle where people die. Just learning that the battle was cooked by some Arab journalists. Perhaps you should use the moniker on the journalists.

          36. I see: you’re simply plain stupid.

            Israel itself admitted it would tarnish their reputation if the documents were released.

            I quoted you the Independent article over and over again.

            You must be a direct descendant of a Pharisee.

          37. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I quoted the journalist who fabricated the story.

          38. I’ll repeat: you’re simply plain stupid.

            You rely on the story of one journalist (who was most likely bought with 5 shekels) when Israel itself admits the Deir Yasmin incident would tarnish Israel’s image.

          39. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Not hardly. Dear Yasmin was a battle, a battle the Arabs lost. A battle a couple of journalist tried to portray as a massacre. The journalist even admitted it backfired. So the Arabs lost the battle and the PR. A continuing occurrence.

          40. shloime Avatar

            but why? because one jewish militia, the palmach, lied to besmirch the reputation of a rival militia, the irgun? but that part of the story really doesn’t interest you, because it doesn’t help you to hate, does it?

          41. What are you talking about? The Yeir Dassin incident is a rather simple one: a first Palestinian village was invade by degenerate AshkeNazis who massacred 100+ people. That’s it.

          42. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Whaa whaaaa. The Arabs lost a defended position and a very strategic one. Simple.

          43. Explain this then …

            “Defending its right to keep the documents under wraps, the Israeli state has argued that their publication would tarnish the country’s image abroad and inflame Arab-Israeli tensions.”

            “The photos clearly show there was a massacre,” says Daniel McGowan, a US retired professor who works with Deir Yassin Remembered. “Those photos show [villagers] lined up against a quarry wall and shot.”

            “Among the documents believed to be in the state’s possession is a damning report written by Meir Pa’il, a Jewish officer who condemned his compatriots for bloodthirsty and shameful conduct on that day. Equally incriminating are the many photographs that survive.”

          44. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Now it’s 1998 and the journalist admitted that the so called “massacre” didn’t take place, the Arabs were defeated and the massacre description was a hoax. I guess the Arabs wanted to keep those thoughts under wraps and did so for 50 years.

          45. The journalist admitted it didn’t happen but the Israeli government is reluctant at disclosing what really happened. Right… you’re not too bright Roodie.

          46. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Want to go over the fifty year gap again? Besides, Israel moved on.

          47. What 50 years? IsraHell’s statement about the classified military documents is few years old.

            IsraHell did the crime, of course it moved on. Filthy criminals.

            “Most Israelis treat the subject with total silence,” says Professor McGowan. “They no longer deny it, they just don’t talk about it.”

          48. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Documents based on a false claim that occurred fifty years ago from the time of the confession.

          49. You make your Israeli Masters proud in lying the way you do.

            “Among the documents believed to be in the state’s possession is a damning report written by Meir Pa’il, a Jewish officer who condemned his compatriots for bloodthirsty and shameful conduct on that day. Equally incriminating are the many photographs that survive.”

          50. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I saw some of the photographs which showed bodies lined up in the aftermath. Considering the Arab obsession with Pallywood productions I would say it showed nothing but the aftermath of a battle. The Arabs even used the same photos for a 1978 battle in Lebanon. Are the Arabs just to cheap to take new photos?

          51. You saw the photos and you still deny a massacre? Who lines up bodies in a battle? You do so in a massacre. Did you expect the invaded/massacred to take photos of their own demise? The archived, classified photos were taken by the Israelis.

          52. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Photos after the fact due not justify a massacre. After hearing the journalist tell the world what really happened or should I say what didn’t happen, then the photos are just history, do prove anything beyond a battle and doesn’t alter my perception of a lost Arab battle.

            “Did you expect the invaded/massacred to take photos of their own demise? It would appear the Arabs definitely tried to make a loss into a PR victory. It didn’t work and now we know it was a blatant lie.

          53. You’re an idiot.

          54. The Attack

            At the beginning of April Irgun and Lehi commanders met and decided to attack Deir Yassin. They rejected suggestions by their own commanders, and by Haganah commander David Shaltiel, to attack strategically important targets (Sheikh Jerakh, Ein Kerem, Qoloniya) because they felt they were too difficult for their inexperienced and ill-equipped soldiers. 5They investigated and found, to the best of their knowledge, that Deir Yassin was a quiet and peaceful village, and decided to attack it nonetheless.

            Was there a Massacre?

            There can be no doubt at all that large numbers of civilians were killed unjustifiably at Deir Yasmin.

            Eliahu Arbel, an officer of the Haganah, visited Deir Yassin on April 10, 1948 at the request of Haganah District Commander David Shaltiel. He wrote: โ€œOn the following day, after the operation, I inspected the village, in accordance with the order of General Shaltiel. Accompanied by an officer of the attacking unit, I saw the horrors that the fighters had created. I saw bodies of women and children, who were murdered in their houses in cold blood by gun fire, with no signs of battle and not as the result of blowing up the houses.โ€

            From my experience I know well that there is no war without killing, and that not only combatants get killed. I have seen a great deal of war, but I never saw a sight like Deir Yassin and therefore I cannot forget what happened there.โ€

            http://www.israel-palestina.info/deir-yassin-the-evidence/

          55. The Attack

            At the beginning of April Irgun and Lehi commanders met and decided to attack Deir Yassin. They rejected suggestions by their own commanders, and by Haganah commander David Shaltiel, to attack strategically important targets (Sheikh Jerakh, Ein Kerem, Qoloniya) because they felt they were too difficult for their inexperienced and ill-equipped soldiers. 5They investigated and found, to the best of their knowledge, that Deir Yassin was a quiet and peaceful village, and decided to attack it nonetheless.

            Was there a Massacre?

            There can be no doubt at all that large numbers of civilians were killed unjustifiably at Deir Yasmin. It comes from numerous independent sources, Jewish and Arab, Haganah and dissidents and it is recorded on film.

            Eliahu Arbel, an officer of the Haganah, visited Deir Yassin on April 10, 1948 at the request of Haganah District Commander David Shaltiel. He wrote: โ€œOn the following day, after the operation, I inspected the village, in accordance with the order of General Shaltiel. Accompanied by an officer of the attacking unit, I saw the horrors that the fighters had created. I saw bodies of women and children, who were murdered in their houses in cold blood by gun fire, with no signs of battle and not as the result of blowing up the houses.โ€

            From my experience I know well that there is no war without killing, and that not only combatants get killed. I have seen a great deal of war, but I never saw a sight like Deir Yassin and therefore I cannot forget what happened there.โ€

            Conclusion

            The evidence that the Irgun and Lehi perpetrated a massacre at Deir Yassin is overwhelming. It comes from numerous independent sources, Jewish and Arab, Haganah and dissidents and it is recorded on film.

            The attempt by Revisionists and their sympathizers to deny that there was a massacre, or to obscure the facts with all kinds of side issues is shameful and absurd. It is the act of criminals who are still at large, and have not come to grips with their guilt.

            http://www.israel-palestina.info/deir-yassin-the-evidence/

          56. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Deir Yassin is 800M above the local land, a very strategic position. A decision for a softer target is good and very basic military strategy. It was also a position held by armed militia. The Arabs lost.

          57. The link I posted clearly shows (with evidence and references) that it was a massacre and not a battle but sure, keep repeating that lie to yourself. No need to argue with a delusional, lying idiot.

            “I saw bodies of women and children, who were murdered in their houses in cold blood by gun fire, with no signs of battle and not as the result of blowing up the houses.”

            Conclusion

            The evidence that the Irgun and Lehi perpetrated a massacre at Deir Yassin is overwhelming. It comes from numerous independent sources, Jewish and Arab, Haganah and dissidents and it is recorded on film.

            The attempt by Revisionists and their sympathizers to deny that there was a massacre, or to obscure the facts with all kinds of side issues is shameful and absurd. It is the act of criminals who are still at large, and have not come to grips with their guilt.

            http://www.israel-palestina.info/deir-yassin-the-evidence/

          58. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And since 1998 with the admission that the Deir Yassin BATTLE was an Arab lose and a strategic victory for the Jews. Your references never have taken the evidence of a deception into account as I have shown. The battle was a strategic lose for the Arabs, nothing more.

          59. Yes, because you expect the Israeli government/military to admit it was a massacre and not a battle. As it was the first or last time the Israeli government/military lied. Idiot.

          60. Rudy1947 Avatar

            A massacre is not a lost battle. It was a battle that the Arabs lost.

          61. Do you realize you form you entire image of the Deir Yassin incident strictly around the say of one journalist? It would be perfectly fine but the problem is that there is a long list of facts, testimony, evidence, references showing otherwise: that it was an attack on a (wanted) peaceful village which resulted in its massacre.

          62. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Just happened to be the journalist that described the so called massacre and set the stage for the Deir Yassin hype. The entire description, responses and now a yearly remembrance was based on a lie. 50 years later and very few care.

          63. You’re a bigger idiot than I thought.

          64. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I love when you talk dirty to me Omega, it has the smell of victory.

          65. I don’t know where you see me talking to you dirty but I assume it’s your fetish subconscious is kicking in.

            To come back to the topic in hand … you are indeed a complete idiot depraved of moral and logic. In an impartial court of law, the say of the journalist would have no credibility against the long list of facts and evidence. But that’s the key: an impartial court of law. Thus frankly, who cares what you say or think. All you’ve done, again, is waste time.

          66. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Sure, sure.

          67. Great. F off now.

          68. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            So Why you speak with him???

          69. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I thought I was a Neanderthal descendent. Make up your mind.

          70. Regardless what (and not who) you descend form. You’re a slime.

          71. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I always preferred being descendent from homo erectus.

          72. Well then, enjoy what’s left of your homo erectus’ life.

          73. shloime Avatar

            and originally reported by british reporters, from a cafe in jericho, based on hearsay. the very graphic cover picture was a drawing.

          74. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            A fragment of Albert Einstein 1948 “Letter to The Editor” NYT

            “Attack on Arab Village
            A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.

            The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

            Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.”

          75. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Was Albert at Deir Yassin?

          76. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to Jews.

            On November 25, 1929, Einstein wrote to Chaim Weizmann,the future first President of Israel โ€“ stating:
            If we do not succeed in finding the path of honest cooperation and coming to terms
            with the Arabs, we will not have learned anything from our two thousand year old ordeal and will deserve the fate which will beset us.
            In addition โ€“ while Einstein supported a safe haven for Jews โ€“ he opposed the creation
            of a Jewish state in Israel.
            In 1938, Einstein said:
            I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of
            a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power .”

          77. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I’ll take the answer as a no, Albert was not at Deir Yassin.

            Albert may have been a great theoretical physicist, but never was a politician and was way out of his comfort zone and thinking in a vacuum.

          78. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He was involved, as you can read, with all Zionist chiefs, he came to Palestine with his
            wife in 1921. In a conversations with Ben Gurion he asked ‘What about the Palestinians”, the other replied “What Palestinians? Einstein was prophetic about Zionists did to region.

          79. Rudy1947 Avatar

            That’s nice, superfluous fluff. Einstein was out of Germany in 33 and remained in the US till his death.

          80. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Glad you demonstrate your ignorance Zionists are zombies head blocks, they learn
            to parrot.

          81. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Didn’t Albert ever comb his hair?

          82. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            An argument is valid only if impossible to be true, otherwise deductive argument is invalid.

          83. The obsession of Arab Nazis – with their unmatched record in murdering fellow Arabs – with the minutiae of Deir Yassin, where 102 Arabs in all were killed, is rich. Especially coming from a Lebanese Arab Nazi. ๐Ÿ™‚

          84. You repeat the word “Nazi” a lot today. Watched Imperium by any chance?

          85. No, just stepped on a nasty piece of Arab Nazi scum. You. Takes some time to scrub it off my boot. ๐Ÿ™‚

          86. You know, the smiley at the end of your sentences don’t hide your anger too well.

          87. You made the same cunning observation in the not-so-distant past, and in the same context. And got a roughly similar reply. Can’t you morons ever move on? ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

          88. “cunning”, (laughing), idiot. There you go, more smileys, that’s better. At least, you’ll give the impression that you’re not mad.

          89. That’s actually almost elegant. Not bad for a humorless Arab Nazi. Although the starting position is so low almost anything beyond the usual bleating would be a huge improvement. ๐Ÿ™‚

          90. Do you realize how dumb you sound with “Arab Nazi”?

            Nazis were financed and supported by American and German Corporations (most of them were Jewish). Jewish-Nazi or Ashke-Nazis is more like it.

            But you knew that too …

          91. ‘Do you realize how dumb you sound with “Arab Nazi”?’
            I actually quite like the sound of it. It’s succinct, it’s to the point, and it saves time on superfluously complex definitions. You also keep doing the favour of proving its veracity in (almost) every comment. ๐Ÿ™‚

          92. Once last time: I let you continue trolling.

          93. (Chuckling)
            You are sooooo cute. ๐Ÿ™‚

          94. Vas-y, continues ร  faire ta pute.

          95. If spoken by a French (or even a Moroccan) girl, this would have sounded sexy. Spoken by you, it sounds… Well, it sounds like you.

          96. Quit acting like you speak French.

          97. In addition to being exceedingly dumb, you are also excruciatinly boring, repetitive and tiresome, which is quite untypical for a francophone fella. But then I guess I’ve already mentioned this not particularly appealing fact before. Multiple times :-).

          98. You do not speak French liar. You used Google translate last time to make it look like you do. It was lamentable du con.

          99. I always use stale piss on you, pal. Keeping it inside for a while, letting it percolate, then letting go. Only the best for my favorite Assadite moron.

          100. So a French and/or Moroccan girl telling you “fais pas ta pute” would be sexy? Oh boy. That, right there, says everything about you.

          101. My pissing on you doesn’t say much about anything, retard. With the exception of the sound of piss hitting your face.

          102. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ :-):-) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

          103. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Jew Nazi sacrifice Jews.

          104. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Unuseful and distracting

          105. Rudy1947 Avatar

            But a better description of a “battle”, not a massacre.

          106. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            A brain washed illiterate. (osso buco)

          107. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “His jacket is not IDF” so it’s foreign soldiers.:-) BTW where can we see his jacket?

          108. Rudy1947 Avatar

            PaliArabs I guess. That’s the idea about the jacket, then you would see the PaliArab.

          109. shloime Avatar

            the most famous “photo” of deir yassin was a drawing by a british reporter, who wasn’t at the scene. and “witnesses” said they “remembered” seeing the bayoneting of arab women, which “occurred” only in the sensationalized “recreations”. (i.e. propaganda.)

            that was the point of the hazem nusseibeh interview – the propaganda was a mistake because instead of arousing anger, it caused fear.

          110. Do you have access to IsraHell’s military classified archives? If not, stop doing what you do best: lying. There is more than one photo and it certainly was/is not a “drawing”.

          111. shloime Avatar

            and they were given a chance to evacuate non fighters, but refused.

          112. Rudy1947 Avatar

            BTW, if the boys were just killed, why are they not bleeding? Why is the sand free of blood? Why are are the men making theater instead of determining their status?

          113. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            BTW, you want blood.
            “Why are are the men making theater instead of determining
            their status? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pie6NAVPSaU

          114. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            News Documentary โ€ฆ. Australia โ€ฆ
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqL048x4msM

          115. shloime Avatar

            if they “killed everyone”, don’t you think there might be more casualties, after weeks of bombing in urban areas? the syrians killed more falestinians in yarmouk than all killed by israel in the last 100 years.

            of the 2,000 casualties in gaza in 2014, more than half were military age men, whether or not hamas admitted they were fighters, and some of the women and children were killed by the 30% of hamas’ rockets that landed inside gaza.

          116. Yes, sure, point the finger at others to legitimize your own crimes.

            In 2014: In its most recent count, the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports that 2,104 Palestinians were killed in Gaza, including 1,462 civilians, among them 495 children and 253 women. Those U.N. numbers would mean that 69 percent of the total killed were civilians.

            That’s on top of 18,000 buildings destroyed. You guys really take the cake for causing so much death and damage and achieving absolutely nothing. It makes zero sense that a military might like IsraHell cannot get rid of idiots like Hamas et al. The reason is simple: it does not want to. It needs never-ending enemies to justify its crimes, keep siphoning billions from its American cattle Province and squeal, whine and cry to the world that their suffering is greater than the ones of others and that they are the only victims. Despicable degenerates.

          117. Rudy1947 Avatar

            They tried with armies of neighboring Arab countries, but were beaten. They tried with armed insurgents Arafat style and were beaten. Now it’s asymmetrical warfare, rockets, tunnels and that is failing.

          118. No indication that neighboring countries were going to attack.

            โ€œThe former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was โ€˜no threat of destructionโ€™ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could โ€˜exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.โ€™…Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: โ€˜In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.โ€™โ€œ – Noam Chomsky, โ€œThe Fateful Triangle.โ€

          119. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Noam Chomsky??? Oh my.

          120. What’s wrong with him?

          121. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            je l’ai bloquรฉ il va juste spammer.

          122. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Did you find out if Ian Tuttle was a jew?

          123. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The “out of context” master. The end of Begin’s quote is ” Wars with no alternative.”

            More of the speech:

            “This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation.”

          124. “Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: โ€˜In June 1967, we again had a choice.”

          125. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Begin and Israel made the right choices.

          126. Begin is a proven terrorist (bombing of King David Hotel to boot). So is IsraHell.

          127. Rudy1947 Avatar

            That’s nice, but seems to have made the right choices along the way. His and his staff’s decision for a preemptive on Egypt not only grounded their AirForce, but let all the Arabs in the conflict to second guess themselves.

          128. Everything IsraHell is the right choice for you.

          129. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Not all, but the just ones that you and your brethren keep whining about.

          130. Yes all.

          131. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Flattery will get you no where.

          132. Where do you see flattery? I said “yes all” to your “not all”.

          133. I would rephrase: everything and anything that pisses you and your ilk off is okay in the eyes of a civilized person. ๐Ÿ™‚

          134. I seriously hope you were not refering to yourself as “civilized”.

          135. “I seriously hope…”

            I piss on your hopes and dreams, pal. With great relish.

          136. You seem mad.

            The piss on people/things fetish again. Told you, keep it to yourself you vermin.

          137. You finally got to the bottom of my kinkiness, mate. Yeah, guilty as charged, I got a fetish of pissing on Syrian Nazis’ faces. But are you and your crappy kind even “persons”? That’s debatable. ๐Ÿ™‚

          138. The use of the word “Nazi” is particularly interesting. Especially when one considers that Nazis were financed by Zionists to create the hostile environment for the Jews in Germany and Europe in order to have them migrate to Palestine.

            The rest of your comment is, like I’ve also said, personal.

          139. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Israeli apologist don’t like Jewish scholars talking badly about Israel. They also hate Norman Finkelstein, but they love Alan Dershowitz.

          140. Precisely. Every time I quote Chomsky or Finkelstein, they try to negate, call them crazy, etc.

          141. shloime Avatar

            because, maybe they are.

          142. My guess is that the “maybe” is superfluous here. Have you ever chanced upon Finkelstein’s lowlife “blog”? ๐Ÿ™‚

          143. No, they are not. They expose the truth about Israelis and IsraHell.

          144. Compared to you, he’s the paragon of sanity. ๐Ÿ™‚

          145. Nothing wrong with Chomsky. You happen to be a filthy Israeli apologist.

          146. Well, you see, I couldn’t care less about your personal hygiene. It has nothing to do with you being a piece of crap.

            By the way, is Chompsky a “true Joo” or a fake one? With you retards, one can never be sure what to think. ๐Ÿ™‚

          147. Keep trolling. Rudy loves it.

          148. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And Hind is right behind your hind…..end.

          149. It was in reference to you up-voting hims dumb comment.

          150. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Rather enjoy YK’s comments, especially the one just above.

          151. Thumbs up.

          152. Rudy seems like a nice bloke, but no offense to him, I’m doing all this just for you, my mentally-challenged Baathist pen-pal. ๐Ÿ™‚

          153. Love it how you never have anything to say. Always resort to dump insults. Keep it up.

            Baathist – I am not one but I ask you: how’s the “war” in Syria going? 5+ years and counting and Assad is still in power.

          154. Got to correct you on this one: calling you and your moronic Arab Nazi ilk morons, Nazis and genetic garbage does not equal “resorting to insults”. It equals calling a spade a spade, or in your case, a pile of shit a pile of shit.
            As to Syria, I have no problem with the direction it’s taking. As long as one band of savages is busy killing another one, it’s fine by me. It’s like the Iran-Iraq war: wishing both sides the best of luck is the way to go. The only ones I have pity for are the children, who are free of sin.

          155. You seem mad to the point of blowing up a facial vein.

            I’ll reiterate what I said in another comment:

            The use of the word “Nazi” is particularly interesting. Especially when one considers that Nazis were financed by Zionists to create the hostile environment for the Jews in Germany and Europe in order to have them migrate to Palestine.

          156. Friendly advice, pal: don’t “reitirate” anything, especially if it’s long and tedious (your specialty). Your torrid lover Dumbyad got it the first time. And nobody else is reading your crap below the first line. ๐Ÿ™‚

          157. What’s “reitirate” vermin?

          158. It’s a misprint, but thanks for pointing this out to me. You see, even lowlife Arab Nazi scum can be good for something beyond demonstrating his expertise in the Talmud. ๐Ÿ™‚

          159. Zzz …

          160. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I forgot to include you, illiterate zombie moron mate, mentally-challenged Fascist pen-pal, inferior intellect parrot with your indomitable parrot YakYak. Aaah, almost forgot; Real Estate God
            is with you.:)

          161. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Inutile.

          162. It’s a huge improvement over Gilad Atzmon. ๐Ÿ™‚

          163. William Avatar

            Hahahaha – Noam Chomsky.

            Um, ok. He did miss the part where Israel conducted shuttle diplomacy for several months to reduce tensions which both Egypt and Syria rejected., Syria and Egypt both moved armored groups into areas bordering Israel, and intelligence now shows the Soviets were working with both to launch the attacks as a way to both destroy Israel’s believed nuke capabilities and remove a US-ally from the region.

            The Arabs knew very well that they had to replace the humiliation against Israel in 1948 and again in 1956. They swore to it and did support Arab terrorists’ training and attacking from bordering areas with Israel. They’re goal, which was further underscored in the Arab League meeting at Khartoum in 1968, was the utter removal of the Jewish State and ALL of its people…by plane or body bag.

            Because of the bravado, troop movements, and precedent of the past several decades of Arab violence, Israel chose to attack rather than wait to be attacked. Israel was right in this action and the majority of military and political analysts around the world deemed the Israeli action a defensive one.

            Had they not acted, the result would have been like the 1973 war when Israel didn’t believe Arabs would attack and chose to do nothing despite the evidence (and warning from Jordan’s King Hussein) to the contrary.

          164. shloime Avatar

            so why do they keep attacking israel? you would think, that after israel’s disengagement, that they could accept “land for peace”. but “peace” just
            isn’t possible with hamas.

          165. Has it ever crossed your mind that it might have to do with the never ending theft of their lands and their continuous oppression?

            Hamas (who was first supported but IsraHell to thwart the PLO) is IsraHell’s scapegoat to keep killing Palestinians, demolishing buildings and annexing (read: stealing) more lands. The only thing that’s “impossible” is to believe that IsraHell cannot get rid of it.

          166. William Avatar

            Knives, rocks, molotov cocktails, and guns. What’s the difference? Armed is armed? If the IDF used their full power, you’d know it. Instead, those Pallys who show up with weapons to attack people, with intent to kill, are themselves injured or killed.

            I remember when a PA official remarked that this was a human rights crime, to a CNN reporter. And the CNN reporter responded that if he went outside and raised a knife to a police officer, there’s a good chance he’d be shot. So, noooo, such actions do not show “IDF cowardice” but rather “Pally stupidity”.

            Which is often why Pallys choose to attack unarmed civilians, sleeping teens, pregnant women, and old people.

          167. If IDF soldiers cannot neutralize a girl with a knife, there is a problem.

          168. William Avatar

            If a girl with a knife shows up to stab and lunges at someone, she deserves to get shot…whether in London, Tehran, Cairo, or Jerusalem. And there are precedents of that in all places.

            Like I said – Pally stupidity.

          169. Like I said, enjoy each other. There are not going anywhere.

          170. William Avatar

            I don’t know….plenty of Pally 14-17 year olds have been committing a lot of attacks in the past months, including the stabbing of a 13-year old Jewish girl in her sleep, which resulted in the Pally teenager being hailed as a hero.

        2. They are armed with the strength of their superior intellect and with their indomitable will. Ah, almost forgot: Allah is with them. ๐Ÿ™‚

          1. The case of the Palestinians is a tragedy. I am not religious but I think do that Allah is all they’ve got. I also hope the religious prophecies do come true and IsraHell vanished once and for all.

          2. The case of Arabs in general during the last 200 years, probably more, is a tragedy. A self-inflicted one. And then, of course, when it’s not a tragedy, it’s a farce. ๐Ÿ™‚

          3. Bingo. You said it: last 200 years.

            It was absolutely not self-inflicted but perfectly coincided with the discovery of the black gold.

          4. William Avatar

            before the discovery of oil, Arabs were busy attacking each other and spreading Islam by sword. They had a period of enlightenment 1000 years ago but that fell by the wayside when strict interpretations of Islam and Arab supremacy took over….and it hasn’t subsided yet.

          5. Arabs may have attacked/killed each other but there was no mass-killings in the millions due to the West.

          6. William Avatar

            As I saw in discourse following the 2nd Gulf War, no one in the West was counting any dead Muslims before the US arrived then suddenly it became an issue to study. Prior to that, the ME was full of despotic regimes who killed many in order to instill fear and maintain power. Saddam alone killed 30,000 Kurds in one week of gassing them. He demolished scores of Shiite villages he believed to be a threat to his power and the US found many mass graves all over. Iran slaughters tens of thousands in the purse shortly after Khomenei came to power. During the Iran-iraq war, millions died. In Darfur, at the hands of the Sudanese Muslim PM, hundreds of thousands were killed, millions displaced, villages destroyed all over. How many dead at the hands of Boko Haram and Al-Shabab?

            Wars still exist along tribal lines – in Afghanistan-Pakistan-India.

            No one was counting before the West got involved but the massive killings did happen. The only difference now is that they are televised today. You claim the West backs ISIS but have little proof of that except to claim “it helps Israel”. Maybe that stands up in the Arab court of opinion but not any legal court of law.

          7. Saddam was enthroned, armed, supported by the USA for decades.

            The rest of your drivel is to legitimate your crimes.

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Coincidence, Wahhabism was founded 200 years ago.

          9. Precisely.

            A nice coincidence that was all planned …

            Discovery of the oil in the ME by the Brits, the support of the Outhouse of Saud (who were desert thugs), the support of Wahhabis, the destruction of the Ottoman Empire (using the Dรถnmeh and Wahhabis) after the the Sultan refused to give Palestine to the Jews, WWII to migrate Jews to Palestine (while making sure Hitler visit the Mufti in Palestine), … today.

          10. The “prophecies”? You mean the Quranic nonsense about killing off Jooz hiding behind trees and stones (dunno if the Quran refers to “real” or “fake” Jooz, but who cares). Aren’t you supposed to be a “Christian”, pal? ๐Ÿ™‚

          11. I am not Muslim but if the Quran advocates the killing of Jews and/or non-Muslims, it would coincide perfectly with the Jewish Talmud that sees non-Jews as below Jews and sees nothing wrong in killing, stealing, cheating, committing all sorts of crimes against non-Jews.

            After all, Jews and Muslims come from the same sperm – Ibrahim’s (aka Abraham).

            Abraham begat two sons from two wives: Ishmael (whose mother was the Egyptian maidservant Hagar) and Isaac (whose mother was Sarah). Because women cannot contribute to male haplogroups and haplotypes, Ishmael and Isaac inherited their father Abrahamโ€™s haplogroup and haplotype. Ishmael was banished from the family, married an Egyptian, and begat 12 sons named Nebaioth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Duma, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. โ€œThey lived from Havilah to Shur, which is east of Egypt, as thou goes toward Assyria,โ€ the Bible tells us, and adds: โ€œThese are the sons of Ishmael . . . 12 princes according to their nations.โ€ This became the Arab line. One of their descendants, according to the interpreters of the Quran living 30 generations later, was the Prophet Muhammad, also known as Mohammed, the founder of Islam.

            https://sites.google.com/site/levitedna/origins-of-r1a1a-ashkenazi-levites/2014-klyosov-article-on-jewish-dna-genealogy

          12. “I am not Muslim but….”

            Shit knows no religion, pal, although there’s surprising variety in it. My guess is that you are of the “mushy consistent” type:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

          13. Told you: keep your fetishes to yourself.

          14. William Avatar

            The Talmud doesn’t say that and if you want to cite something, it should be that part in the Talmud not some obscure citation on Abraham’s offspring.

            Besides, the Talmud (there are 2 of them) is a collection of writings and rabbinical explanations, not considered “word of G-d” like the Torah. However, the Koran does have such violent and subjugating commands, to the point that rape is condoned and massacres are a tribute to Allah, and all Koranic writings are taken as the “word of god”, or else.

          15. I know what the Talmud is and that is exactly what today’s Jewry relies upon: the distorted version of degenerate Rabbis from Babylon – not the Torah. Judaic teaching states that the Jews are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption.

            The Babylonian Talmud has lots of similarities with Muslim writings then as the Talmud also legitimizes rape and crimes on non-Jews (goys). This documentary (The Other Israel) explains it well: https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=IJxdIXgMGAI

            On the whole, Jews and Muslism come from the same sperm …

            Abraham begat two sons from two wives: Ishmael (whose mother was the Egyptian maidservant Hagar) and Isaac (whose mother was Sarah). Because women cannot contribute to male haplogroups and haplotypes, Ishmael and Isaac inherited their father Abrahamโ€™s haplogroup and haplotype.

            Ishmael was banished from the family, married an Egyptian, and begat 12 sons named Nebaioth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Duma, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. โ€œThey lived from Havilah to Shur, which is east of Egypt, as thou goes toward Assyria,โ€ the Bible tells us, and adds: โ€œThese are the sons of Ishmael . . . 12 princes according to their nations.โ€ This became the Arab line. One of their descendants, according to the interpreters of the Quran living 30 generations later, was the Prophet Muhammad, also known as Mohammed, the founder of Islam.

            https://sites.google.COM/site/levitedna/origins-of-r1a1a-ashkenazi-levites/2014-klyosov-article-on-jewish-dna-genealogy

          16. William Avatar

            You say a lot of today’s Jews rely on the Talmud instead of the Torah. care to provide proof of that? Because as I can see it….those who are secular, don’t rely on either and those who are religious rely on the Torah.

            Rape has never been acceptable in Judaism and still isn’t which is why Pallys accused the IDF of racism for NOT attempting to rape them while in custody. Though, Islam condones sex slaves according to a recent fatwa. Lovely.

          17. Secular Jews rely on ancient Judaism, not the distorted modern version tailored by the criminal Pharisees.

            I never said rape is acceptable in Judaism, it is in the Babylonian Talmud.

            Again, Jews and Muslims come from the same sperm. You guys deserve each other and if the predictions of some are right, WW3 will see the annihilation of you and them.

          18. William Avatar

            The Pallys chose to reject everything else and cling to Allah. Guess they backed the wrong horse. The religious prophecies are coming true, however….the return of Jews to their heritage and the birth of their nation State – as predicted in Jewish, Christian, and even Koranic texts.

          19. Jews’ homeland is not Palestine, it’s Mesopotamia. But I am sure you will argue with archeology and anthropology.

            The prophecies were written by and for the Pharisees who hijacked ancient Judaism and replaced it with their Babylonian Talmud. Jewish encyclopedias attest that ancient and modern Judaism are not the same. The Septuagint Bible’s translation (from Hebrew to Greek) was cunningly distorted by the Seventy Jewish Scribes to suit their version of history and facts. Degenerate human beings in the likes of you take religious books as historical.

          20. William Avatar

            well, if we’re going back many thousands of years, Arabs’ homeland is not “Palestine”, it’s the Arabian Peninsula. However, if you bothered to read history forward, you will see besides “Palestine” being a fake name as part of a replacement ideology, the Jews that made up the Israelites and were led into the land of Israel (also cited by the Koran) were mostly from the region and Egypt from where the people multiplied. But not Mesopotamia.

            “Degenerate human beings in the likes of you take religious books as historical.”

            And yet here you are….citing biblical text as a historical proof to your argument. Really now. Do you hear yourself?

          21. Arabs (Jewish and Muslims) come from the Arabian Peninsula! Ibrahim, aka Abraham is from Ur, present-day Iraq. Get your fact straights.

            Torah, Quran, whatever – both come from the same family – Ibrahim, aka Abraham’s sperm.

            Where did you read me citing biblical text as historical proof?

          22. William Avatar

            Jews are not Arabs…that’s the first mistake. DNA studies show a close relation – on a cousin-level – but not a direct connection on a sibling-level.

            So, let’s say you’re correct and if so, then the Jews have right to the land they have in the Middle East and the arguments to the contrary – even those claiming its “Arab land” are null and void.

          23. Judaism and Islam come from the same family – descendants of Ibrahim, aka Abraham.

            The Jews of Khazaria are Jewish by faith not genetics.

            There is no let’s say, it’s a fact and I am correct as it’s no my opinion.

            Jews and Muslims have equal right to the land and by Jews I mean those who were there – no the Khazar converts.

          24. Oh Yeah Avatar

            Insha’Allah

        3. William Avatar

          Well, some teenagers are, if you haven’t noticed…they’re the ones doing the majority of the violent actions and stabbings these days. many women too.

          But mostly, the children and women are the human shields where the “brave Pally men” hide behind. I believe Ban Ki-Moon called this a “war crime”. Hamas disagreed and called it “a noble resistance”. I wonder if they asked the women and children first.

          1. You deserve each other, enjoy.

          2. William Avatar

            We won;t be with them very long. Don’t worry.

          3. You guys leaving?

          4. William Avatar

            Why leave our ancestral home? No I mean the many pallys who are leaving and the Gazans who keep getting buried in tunnels that (*cough) collapse unexpectedly.

          5. Palestine is not your ancestral home. You guys came from Babylon.

          6. William Avatar

            Jews were founded and provided a homeland in today’s Israel (with borders that go out to the Euphrates, if you take religious texts into account). That makes it their homeland.

            Babylonia was the homeland of Babylonians, a semetic group that were definitely not Jews.

            And Arabia is the homeland of Arabs of which “Palestinians” belong.

    2. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      Hamas is armed but Greatly overpowered, they have no shelters and Israel targets ambulances.
      Unreported news
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw49neHn_Os

        1. Gaza. Syria. Same instigators: IsraHell.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Kalihu la ana.

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          This i your Holy’wood Depleted Uranium in 2008, i will no bother in further pictures.

          1. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I thought you said it was phosphorus. But was that in Syria or Gaza?

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I didn’t mention phosphorus…you are.

          3. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Oh yes you did.

            Hind Abyad 5thDrawer โ€ข a day ago

            But that’s phosphorus.

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That was for 5thDrawer pictures; black melted body in Lebanon!
            I said “But that’s phosphorus.” I didn’t mention “phosphorus to you.

          5. Rudy1947 Avatar

            You mentioned depleted uranium to me. You also mentioned phosphorus to 5th. Now which is it.

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That was a question to 5thDrawer about Lebanon.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That’s in Gaza not Syria
            Your hateful ‘made in Hollywood’ masters of propaganda fakers is disgusting, there was no phosphorus in Syria.

      1. Genocide in one neighborhood? Gotta love that one. ๐Ÿ™‚

    3. If copypasting were an Olympic sport, Omega and Dumbyad would be sure split gold and silver between them. ๐Ÿ™‚

      1. You don’t like the truth slug?

        1. I’ve already told you that I moderately like the transcendental truth of taking a leak on Arab Nazis’ faces. ๐Ÿ™‚

          1. You seem obsessed with Nazis. There again, you ilk created them.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He likes it, very European.:-)

          3. Haha, yes. Very Aryan.

          4. Dumb Arab Nazis who learned all the crap they believe in from European ones complimenting each other on not being “European” or “Aryan”. How cute. ๐Ÿ™‚

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Why are you here?

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Showing off your inferior intellect? Not even fit to print

    4. William Avatar

      and yet the Arab world receives more $$$ collectively from the US than do the Israelis, and return nothing to the US economy, unlike Israel does. Hmmm….I guess we can look at it this way….the money given to Israel which is spent solely in the US is an investment in the US economy and supports US foreign policy….

      and the money provided to the Arabs, including “Palestinians”, are a lot like the $400mm given to Iran…ransom and protection money.

      1. Each Arab country is one country. How’s your “collectively” of any relevance?

        Besides, don’t forget that 78% of the money sent to the Palestinians ends up in IsraHell’s coffers.

        Study: At least 78% of humanitarian aid intended for Palestinians ends up in Israeli coffers – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/study-at-least-78-of-humanitarian-aid-intended-for-palestinians-ends-up-in-israeli-coffers/#sthash.KsxtHOsh.dpuf

        http://mondoweiss.NET/2016/03/study-at-least-78-of-humanitarian-aid-intended-for-palestinians-ends-up-in-israeli-coffers/

        There you go, you said it … the USA sends money to IsraHell and IsraHell sends it back to its lobbies in Washington so that the USA can wage IsraHell’s wars.

      2. Each Arab country is one country. How’s your “collectively” of any relevance?

        Besides, don’t forget that 78% of the money sent to the Palestinians ends up in IsraHell’s coffers.

        Study: At least 78% of humanitarian aid intended for Palestinians ends up in Israeli coffers.

        -> http://mondoweiss.NET/2016/03/study-at-least-78-of-humanitarian-aid-intended-for-palestinians-ends-up-in-israeli-coffers/

        There you go, you said it … the USA sends money to IsraHell and IsraHell sends it back to its lobbies in Washington so that the USA can wage IsraHell’s wars.

        1. William Avatar

          Easy…The Arabs claim themselves a group…whether in the UN or as a force against Israel, so I followed their lead. In addition, such aid was in the form of cash and weapons which left US shores and harmed, not helped, the US economy.

          Hahaha – on Mondoweiss. Can you not come up with a real resource? There are so many studies – from the UN to US and EU govts that provide aid – regarding the money given to Pallys and where it goes. It certainly doesn’t end up with Israel, unless you mean paying for services from Israel but last I checked, the Pallys owe Israel about $150mm for electrical power. I did read the piece and laugh at the assertions in the article. After all, Pallys themselves admit to shopping in Israeli stores and buying Israeli goods because the alternative are inferior and often not safe. Their words, not mine.

          heck, the PA won’t even provide decent jobs for their citizens (unless terrorists is the role) and Pally workers are subjected to “middlemen” who try to skim money off workers’ salaries.

          The article is full of conjecture but a fun read, I admit.

          You might want to check with Hamas and the PLO these days. Both have skimmed lots of aid money for themselves, and Hamas has been found to be stealing aid money and materials for its own uses, away from average Pallys.

          and when you get the chance, please share which wars the US is fighting on behalf of Israel. I would guess you think any attack on Arabs is for Israel but that’s just lazy thinking.

    5. William Avatar

      “…Israel works against the US, chipping away at our vision of a moral and peaceful world.”

      Gotta laugh at this one. Who in here really believes in the “American vision of a moral and peaceful world”.

      Anyone?

      You people, the ones who suffer US bombs and previous overthrows of democratically elected govts by the CIA…..what do you think?

      1. Who in here really believes in the “American vision of a moral and peaceful world”.

        All of them here do. I don’t.

        1. William Avatar

          Who are they? and when did America have a vision of a moral and peaceful world except maybe during and shortly after their own independence?

          1. All of them here: Rudy1947, Y K, MekensehParty, etc.

          2. William Avatar

            glad you feel you can speak for so many others. How does that self-proscribed feeling of supremacy working for ya?

          3. You asked me who. I answered, based on my time here with them. You despicable, filthy malicious, zionist slug.

          4. William Avatar

            I take them as badges of honor, mostly because I touched your racist nerve. Smiles all the way.

          5. You asked me a question (which I thought was honest) and I answered. Then you turned it on me and said I entitled myself to speak for them.

            Far from touching any nerve, I confirmed you’re a despicable, filthy, malicious Zionist slug.

    6. William Avatar

      “We all know the Gazans are unarmed. ”

      Well, except for all those rockets, explosives, suicide vests, RPGs, terror tunnels, guns, and such…yeah.

      1. They need to defend themselves against the invader/occupier. Besides, that part of the quote comment is in reference to the civilians vs the IDF.

        1. William Avatar

          but you just claimed they were all unarmed. Hmm…a hypocrisy?

          How many civilians were killed by the IDF compared to armed Pallys? About 12%.

          How many Israeli civilians killed compared to police/IDF by Pallys? About 75%.

          Hmm, who is targeting civilians and who is trying to avoid them.

          Hint: the ones who celebrate when a civilian dies and celebrate the act as heroic.

          1. I quoted someone’s comment. Don’t twist things now. I also did tell you that it was in reference to unarmed civilians.

            Enjoy your golden cage because in the end, that’s all you guys have: a cage.

          2. William Avatar

            Hmmm..well, we keep being told that we’re isolated but trade has risen, African countries are reaching out to Israel, the pally cause is shadowed by many real global causes, and Arab nations are crossing the “hate” line to speak with Israel despite the cackles of Pallys, Hizbullah, and Iran.

            Heck of a cage, huh?

          3. You parrot the Zionist bs like a champ. IsraHell imposed its way in Africa – have you forgotten what happened in Zimbabwe (and other countries)? They wanted to get rid of the Zionist scourge and the Zionists replied back with all kinds of economical and political false-flags. Zionists are a cancer to this planet. Disgusting.

            I am well aware that the Palestinian cause if shadowed by other world events, I just told you in another comment. That world event is one IsraHell supports wholeheartedly: ISIS.

            Correct, a cage. Enjoy.

          4. William Avatar

            “imposed its way on Africa”…

            how exactly? Zimbabwe was a nightmare of its own making by a despotic ruler who came to power on an anti-white platform and unleashed blacks to take land by force, killing hundreds of white and making many others run for safety. Problem was – the blacks didn’t know how to farm. Soon Zimbabwe couldn’t feed itself, Mugabe didn’t budge from his anti-white, anti-British platform, jailed and beat any opposition, and caused the economy to fail so fast their pounds became worthless and people migrated to South Africa to look for work.

            That’s pretty self-explanatory and public knowledge if you cared to reside in non-Anti-Israel hate sites.

            The Pally cause had been shadowed well before ISIS came to power. Remember when the Haiti earthquake hit and the Pallys screamed because the world focused on saving lives there rather than beat Israeli up at Pally command? The pallys certainly hate playing second fiddle to anyone – whether its the 2008 economic crash, the darfur genocide, the annexation of Crimea, or even the Zika virus. Poor little guys. Nothing another $900mm ransom payment from Europe can’t fix. Hee hee.

          5. Correct, imposed. Educate yourself rather than swallowing (the narrative that is).

            What the AshkeNazis did in Palestine is a tragedy but I cannot save them myself. Keep laughing like the degenerate you are.

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Jewish Haredim disown who storm AL-Aqsa

            ‘Jerusalem, ALRYA – Yated Ne’eman, the most famous paper in Haredim Jewish party, attacked those who storm Al-Aqsa mosque calling them as “marginal groups”.

            The paper disowned those who visit al-Aqsa considering it a dangerous act and that has serious sequences. It described these visits as throwing a pack of matches in oil well, which means that such actions might spark the Middle East area.”

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Well, this one had to bring out ‘The Resisters’ for sure. :-)))
    2 women in North America lead their Green Parties … which relatively few actually ‘back up’ at the poles simply because they want to vote against one of the ‘big parties’ they dislike the most … or they are programmed to not think the environmental concerns are necessary.
    However, this actually gives those women the freedom to say what they think, lay out some real facts, and embarrass the ‘big boys’ with those. A necessary thing to have.

  4. “I believe all our allies are special allies”

    The inability to give a straight answer, which in this case should be: “Yes, we hate Israel and love Putin and every America-hating dictator in existence”, whoever is a great asset in a presidential candidate!

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