The collateral damage of Syria’s explosion

By: Thomas Friedman / Syndicated columnist

The sex scandal engulfing two of our top military and intelligence officers could not be coming at a worse time: The Middle East has never been more unstable and closer to multiple, interconnected explosions.

Virtually every American president since Dwight Eisenhower has had a Middle Eastern country that brought him grief. For Ike, it was Lebanon’s civil war and Israel’s Sinai invasion. For Lyndon Johnson, it was the 1967 Six-Day War. For Nixon, it was the 1973 war. For Carter, it was the Iranian Revolution. For Ronald Reagan, it was Lebanon. For George H.W. Bush, it was Iraq. For Bill Clinton, it was al-Qaida and Afghanistan. For George W. Bush, it was Iraq and Afghanistan. For Barack Obama’s first term, it was Iran and Afghanistan, again.

And for Obama’s second term, I fear that it could be the full nightmare — all of them at once. The whole Middle East erupts in one giant sound and light show of civil wars, states collapsing and refugee dislocations, as the keystone of the entire region — Syria — gets pulled asunder and the disorder spills across the neighborhood.

And you were worried about the “fiscal cliff.”

Ever since the start of the Syrian uprising/civil war, I’ve cautioned that while Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain and Tunisia implode, Syria would explodeif a political resolution was not found quickly. That is exactly what’s happening.

The reason Syria explodes is because its borders are particularly artificial, and all its internal communities — Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Kurds, Druze and Christians — are linked to brethren in nearby countries and are trying to draw them in for help. Also, Sunni-led Saudi Arabia is fighting a proxy war against Shiite-led Iran in Syria and in Bahrain, which is the base of the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet. Bahrain witnessed a host of bombings last week as the Sunni-led Bahraini regime stripped 31 Bahraini Shiite political activists of their citizenship. And now someone in Syria has decided to start lobbing mortars at Israel.

What to do? I continue to believe that the best way to understand the real options — and they are grim — is by studying Iraq, which, like Syria, is made up largely of Sunnis, Shiites, Christians and Kurds. Why didn’t Iraq explode outward like Syria after Saddam was removed? The answer: America.

For better and for worse, the United States in Iraq performed the geopolitical equivalent of falling on a grenade — that we triggered ourselves. That is, we pulled the pin; we pulled out Saddam; we set off a huge explosion in the form of a Shiite-Sunni contest for power. Thousands of Iraqis were killed along with more than 4,700 American troops, but the presence of those U.S. troops in and along Iraq’s borders prevented the violence from spreading. Our invasion both triggered the civil war in Iraq and contained it at the same time. After that Sunni-Shiite civil war burned itself out, we brokered a fragile, imperfect power-sharing deal between Iraqi Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds. Then we got out. It is not at all clear that their deal will survive our departure.

Still, the lesson is that if you’re trying to topple one of these iron-fisted, multisectarian regimes, it really helps to have an outside power that can contain the explosions and mediate a new order. There is too little trust in these societies for them to do it on their own. Syria’s civil war, though, was triggered by predominantly Sunni rebels trying to oust President Bashar Assad and his minority Alawite-Shiite regime. There is no outside power willing to fall on the Syrian grenade and midwife a new order. So the fire there rages uncontrolled; refugees are now spilling out, and the Shiite-Sunni venom unleashed by the Syrian conflict is straining relations between these same communities in Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Kuwait.

But Iraq teaches another lesson: Shiites and Sunnis are not fated to murder each other 24/7/365. Yes, their civil war dates to the 7th century. And, yes, when they started going after each other in Iraq, they did so with breathtaking chainsaw-nails-pounded-into-heads violence. There is nothing like a fight within the faith. Yet, once order was restored, Iraqi Shiites and Sunnis, many of whom have intermarried, were willing to work together and even run together in multisectarian parties in the 2009-10 elections.

So the situation is not hopeless. I know U.S. officials are tantalized by the idea of flipping Syria from the Iranian to the Western camp by toppling Assad. That would make my day, too, but I’m skeptical it would end the conflict.

I fear that toppling Assad, without a neutral third party inside Syria to referee a transition, could lead not only to permanent civil war in Syria but one that spreads around the region.

It’s a real longshot, but we should keep trying to work with Russia — Syria’s lawyer — to see if together we can broker a power-sharing deal inside Syria and a United Nations-led multinational force to oversee it.

Otherwise, this fire will rage on and spread, as the acid from the Shiite-Sunni conflict eats away at the bonds holding the Middle East together and standing between this region and chaos.

Seattle Times

  • MeYosemite

    The answer to the conflict in MEA is to look at what it took to bring peace in Europe and specifically the arrangement among the major differing cultures like France, UK and Germany.

  • MeYosemite

    The answer to the conflict in MEA is to look at what it took to bring peace in Europe and specifically the arrangement among the major differing cultures like France, UK and Germany.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B2K4S23OFZLXG7ETRIUO4RSLOM Joey

    the arab deserve what they get they could not solve a thing and they can not live together in peace let it lets have some fun and the west sell some guns at the end of the day thats what guns are for so we can use them on each other well done arab

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B2K4S23OFZLXG7ETRIUO4RSLOM Joey

    the arab deserve what they get they could not solve a thing and they can not live together in peace let it lets have some fun and the west sell some guns at the end of the day thats what guns are for so we can use them on each other well done arab

  • Btru2u

    La ill aha illah lah.(there is no God but God), and Muslims should trust his word and not let the Christians or the Jews be your protectors., they will not fail to corrupt you. This has been proven true all too often.

    • Constantin7

      Muslims should trust the word of God: I agree, which is in the Holy Bible, because the Kuran IS NOT THE WORD of GOD. God cannot give a sura to mohammad that contradicts another, and the Kuran is plenty of contradictory suras (and this is just to mention one thing), and God does not communicate with criminals, murderers, womanizers, child molesters, thieves, sex obsessed, power hungry, self proclaimed prophets like mohammad. It is just impossible that God communicated the Kuran to Mohammad (an atheist who never knew God and killed every one who did not believe in him). If you think that the Christians will corrupt you so much (all too often as you say) then why buy their cars, use their technology, buy their food , their products, their books, their computers, etc… Go to Macca there you will not have a chance to meet a christian and you will remain “pure”. Corruption is the essence of Islam itself: Look at islamic countries how much they are corrupt around the world and compare them with non-islamic countries, which ones are more corrupt ? When Islam represents the filthy, corrupt, criminal life that Mohammad lived as an Ideal life and that Mohammad is the most honorable man on earth, this is the ultimate lie and corruption that Islam is propagating. However, thanks to the information technology that everything about Islam and its alleged prophet is being known with a push of a button, finally after 1400 years of lies and deceipt.

      • wargame1

        Quran doesn’t have any single contradiction. The revelation was preserved in a unique way i.e. human memory plus in a written form too. There are more than million Muslims today memorize the Quran and this has been happening since the beginning   Now those who reverted to Islam and follow Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) do not buy your propaganda. You have the right to follow your faith and be happy with it.

        • Beiruti

          Hello

        • Hannibal

          human memory is just that fallible… 

        • Btru2u

          Some people of the book deliberately choose to take short ayat from the quran out of context without explaining the full meaning. Their  intention is purely to change the meaning of the Quran with their own hands and promote hatred. That is a very great sin indeed.

      • wargame1

        “Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam.

        Although the religion began in Arabia, by the year 2002: 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world.So Islam is not necessarily an Arab religion.

         In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)
         
        According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

        In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.Christianity is a dead religion and due to this phenomenon many churches in Europe,America and else where are either sold to the Muslims or rented by the Muslims where we have proper worship of Allah. Allah Hu Akhbar.

        • Hannibal

          In that case who said the world is not going to hell? 

        • Constantin7

          We know the numbers of muslims and how they are increasing exponentially, this does not mean they are right and that their religion is the true religion. Christianity leaves the individual the freedom to practice his religion the way he/she wants, for this there are many churches in Europe which are empty or being sold to build condos. Christians may be diverting from Christ and his teachings because of this world’s materialism, but Christianity is well and alive and the most Christian people that I am meeting are those Arab moslems who are becoming Christians by faith and by conviction and not for money or any other reason. So quantity does not matter as much, it is Quality that matters. There is a 1 billion people in Africa and there are 15 million Swiss in the world, which people would you prefer ? I would pick the Swiss, the educated civilized people over the ignorants. In addition, the 1.2 billion muslims 80% of them do not understand the Kuran or Arabic and they are muslims by birth and/or tradition. The other 20% are just ignoring the facts and do not dare to challenge the values of their own religion. If the poor muslims knew how Muhammad lived and what he did in his life, they would run to leave Islam. 

          You say the Kuran does not have contradictions: What about the Nasekh wal Mansoukh, some early suras were replaced by later suras that are contradictory and more important because they came later: Does this mean in the first suras God was mistaken and he corrected himself in the following later suras ?

          For the educated and the muslims who are using their brains (that God gave it to them) Islam is finished. The biggest lie in the history of Humanity that Muhammad is the messenger from God and the Kuran is the word of God, this lie of 1400 years has been revealed and it is just a question of time for the masses to realize it. Thank you for the internet and the information technology. Nothing can stop the truth from being revealed. Sorry Wargame this is the ugly reality that you have to face.

      • wargame1

        A book you may read to take a heed
        MUHAMMAD, No. 1 The 100, a Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History by Michael H. Hart

        “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. Of humble origins, Muhammad founded and promulgated one of the world’s great religions, and became an immensely effective political leader. ”

        We as a Muslims are grateful to have prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him) as our Prophet, We are grateful to be a Muslim and we are happy to proclaim Allah as our Lord. Allah Hu Akhbar.

      • Beiruti

        Hello

      • guss043

        The koran is full of contradiction.Islam was just a refkection of how the nestorian look at Jesus divinity.RahebAlBuhaira is behind it ans was assinated later on ib.many text were added by Osman that why is called mishaf Osman.Anyway taking in considwration moat moslem know very few verses it is easy for sheiks to decree whatever they wish and let the masses follow them

      • Btru2u

        Thank you Constantine for showing the Christians’ true hatred for Islam. We Muslims have accepted The word of Jesus . Jesus spoke aramaic, so the current bible is a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original word, not to mention the different versions.. That is why the Koran has been revealed and preserved in an uncorrupted format and unchanged. Your venomous words prove true what the Koran says about you. Unfortunately you have chosen to reject Mohammed as a prophet , so you call him all the bad names. When you reject the word of god , you have rejected God, and the consequences will be on your soul not ours. You too will be rejected with that attitude .

        • Constantin7

          Btru2u,

          Let me clarify one thing and from where I come, I have no problem with muslims whatsoever, my problem is yes with Islam, its prophet and its teachings, that I cannot believe that logical educated people can still believe in it. No I don’t believe in Mohammad and there is no one Christian on this earth that believes in Mohammad, only Muslims believe in him BLINDLY. You say that you accepted the word of Jesus, tell me how ? By killing innocents ? by considering woman = 1/2 a man, by exercising Takyah (which is outright lies), Jesus told his followers to follow the 10 commandments that God gave to Moses, does Islam follow these 10 commandments, the first of which is you will love your God with all your heart, mind and soul. If I come in front of a muslim and I curse to God and blaspheme God, this muslim would not care at all, if I blaspheme the human Muhammad this muslim would kill me, this proves to me that you put Mohammad above God. If you blaspheme Jesus or God in front of me or any other christian, we would just feel sorry for you.
          Not that I believe in the Kuran, but the Kuran mentions that Jesus was born miraculously (from a virgin), it mentions that Jesus lived without sin, it mentions that Jesus is the Soul of God (Rouh Allah), and for me the Soul of God is GOD, it mentions that Jesus did miracles, raised the dead, and healed the sick, and yet none of these extraordinary facts were done by Mohammad (who by the way is not his original name given at birth – the words Muhammad and Mahmoud were names given to GOD in the Jahiliya time because only God Nahmuduhu, so Mohammad wanted the people to Yahmuduh (in other word to worship him), and yet you worship Mohammad much more than Jesus.

          Btru2u, you as a human being have much much more value, principles, decency and honor than the prophet of Islam who married a 6 years old and supposedly had sex with her at 9 (by decree from God). There is no one muslim  that I know who would do such an awful thing to a child, would you ? You are a much better person than your prophet, but Islam forces you to shut your eyes and mind and not to see the ugly reality of your prophet, unfortunately.

          Just  look at Islamic countries in the world and there you have your example of what Islam did to these countries and people. Saudi Arabia, with all the wealth they have, is the worst place on earth to live, people go there just for work and to make a living. I wish one day you will realize the truth and you walk out of the darkness of Islam to the light of Jesus Christ. You can always try it by testing Jesus and ask him (Jesus) to reveal the truth for you. Ask Jesus from the bottom of your heart and see how he will answer you. Pray for Mohammad and his God til the end of the world nobody is going to answer you. Good luck for you, because I know that  you love God and fear him, but the problem is your God is not the true loving merciful God that we know through our lord Jesus Christ. Yes Jesus is our Lord because Jesus, the perfect human without sin, is the reflexion of God in human form. Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the Life.

          I leave you in peace.

      • Btru2u

        Mr Constantine, You say that JESUS  is God. We say Jesus prayed to God. We pray to the one God that Jesus prayed to. To, me you have rejected faith in the unseen, so  I will not worship what you worship, and you will not worship what i worship, And i dont not want to worship what you worship, and you do not want to worship what i worship. to you be your way and to me mine.

  • Btru2u

    La ill aha illah lah.(there is no God but God), and Muslims should trust his word and not let the Christians or the Jews be your protectors., they will not fail to corrupt you. This has been proven true all too often.

    • Constantin7

      Muslims should trust the word of God: I agree, which is in the Holy Bible, because the Kuran IS NOT THE WORD of GOD. God cannot give a sura to mohammad that contradicts another, and the Kuran is plenty of contradictory suras (and this is just to mention one thing), and God does not communicate with criminals, murderers, womanizers, child molesters, thieves, sex obsessed, power hungry, self proclaimed prophets like mohammad. It is just impossible that God communicated the Kuran to Mohammad (an atheist who never knew God and killed every one who did not believe in him). If you think that the Christians will corrupt you so much (all too often as you say) then why buy their cars, use their technology, buy their food , their products, their books, their computers, etc… Go to Macca there you will not have a chance to meet a christian and you will remain “pure”. Corruption is the essence of Islam itself: Look at islamic countries how much they are corrupt around the world and compare them with non-islamic countries, which ones are more corrupt ? When Islam represents the filthy, corrupt, criminal life that Mohammad lived as an Ideal life and that Mohammad is the most honorable man on earth, this is the ultimate lie and corruption that Islam is propagating. However, thanks to the information technology that everything about Islam and its alleged prophet is being known with a push of a button, finally after 1400 years of lies and deceipt.

      • wargame1

        Quran doesn’t have any single contradiction. The revelation was preserved in a unique way i.e. human memory plus in a written form too. There are more than million Muslims today memorize the Quran and this has been happening since the beginning   Now those who reverted to Islam and follow Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) do not buy your propaganda. You have the right to follow your faith and be happy with it.

        • Beiruti

          In 5:51, the Qur’an says “Do not take the Jews and the
          Christians for friends,” but earlier in the same chapter (5:5) it permits a man
          to marry a chaste woman who follows one of the two other books!

          In the Qur’an, on two occasions it is written that
          the Jews, the Christians, the mysterious Sabians, and anyone else who believes
          in God and does good deeds shall have nothing to fear or regret. However, surah
          al-Imran 3:85 contradicts this claim; by stating that anyone who chooses a
          religion other than Islam will have paradise denied them.

          There is injunction to kill unbelievers (8:39) and
          polytheists (9:5), but praise in the very next verse for those who offer them
          asylum (9:6). We see (in 8:39) an order to battle violently against
          unbelievers, whereas Allah’s advice to “pardon them and turn away” (5:13) could
          possibly interpreted as an appeal for toleration and living in peace. 
          No contradictions? Give me a break.

        • Hannibal

          human memory is just that fallible… 

        • Btru2u

          Some people of the book deliberately choose to take short ayat from the quran out of context without explaining the full meaning. Their  intention is purely to change the meaning of the Quran with their own hands and promote hatred. That is a very great sin indeed.

      • wargame1

        “Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam.

        Although the religion began in Arabia, by the year 2002: 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world.So Islam is not necessarily an Arab religion.

         In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)
         
        According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984
        In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.Christianity is a dead religion and due to this phenomenon many churches in Europe,America and else where are either sold to the Muslims or rented by the Muslims where we have proper worship of Allah. Allah Hu Akhbar.

        • Hannibal

          In that case who said the world is not going to hell? 

        • Constantin7

          We know the numbers of muslims and how they are increasing exponentially, this does not mean they are right and that their religion is the true religion. Christianity leaves the individual the freedom to practice his religion the way he/she wants, for this there are many churches in Europe which are empty or being sold to build condos. Christians may be diverting from Christ and his teachings because of this world’s materialism, but Christianity is well and alive and the most Christian people that I am meeting are those Arab moslems who are becoming Christians by faith and by conviction and not for money or any other reason. So quantity does not matter as much, it is Quality that matters. There is a 1 billion people in Africa and there are 15 million Swiss in the world, which people would you prefer ? I would pick the Swiss, the educated civilized people over the ignorants. In addition, the 1.2 billion muslims 80% of them do not understand the Kuran or Arabic and they are muslims by birth and/or tradition. The other 20% are just ignoring the facts and do not dare to challenge the values of their own religion. If the poor muslims knew how Muhammad lived and what he did in his life, they would run to leave Islam. 

          You say the Kuran does not have contradictions: What about the Nasekh wal Mansoukh, some early suras were replaced by later suras that are contradictory and more important because they came later: Does this mean in the first suras God was mistaken and he corrected himself in the following later suras ?

          For the educated and the muslims who are using their brains (that God gave it to them) Islam is finished. The biggest lie in the history of Humanity that Muhammad is the messenger from God and the Kuran is the word of God, this lie of 1400 years has been revealed and it is just a question of time for the masses to realize it. Thank you for the internet and the information technology. Nothing can stop the truth from being revealed. Sorry Wargame this is the ugly reality that you have to face.

      • wargame1

        A book you may read to take a heed
        MUHAMMAD, No. 1 The 100, a Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History by Michael H. Hart

        “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. Of humble origins, Muhammad founded and promulgated one of the world’s great religions, and became an immensely effective political leader. ”

        We as a Muslims are grateful to have prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him) as our Prophet, We are grateful to be a Muslim and we are happy to proclaim Allah as our Lord. Allah Hu Akhbar.

      • Beiruti

        Quranic texts and the early Coptic texts have identical beliefs when it comes to the relation between God and Satan. Quranic texts concerning the fall of Satan resemble the Coptic account. This can mean that the Coptic account is a very likely source for the Quranic text. Since the early Coptic Church (at least until the 5th century) was among the leading churches in early Christendom, it is not surprising to find many of its stories spread throughout the Middle East. In pre-Islamic times, Arabia was a haven of refuge to all dissatisfied and persecuted Christians, especially the Copts after the Chaldeans ruled against them. Muhammad’s friendship to Christians of Coptic faith is reflected in many aspects of his life. He married a Coptic wife name Mariya, and he reported to have his followers to be especially kind to the Copts of Egypt considering them his in-laws. Such friendly gestures to the Copts add more credence to the possibility that Coptic was the most likely source of the Quranic account of the fall of Satan.

      • guss043

        The koran is full of contradiction.Islam was just a refkection of how the nestorian look at Jesus divinity.RahebAlBuhaira is behind it ans was assinated later on ib.many text were added by Osman that why is called mishaf Osman.Anyway taking in considwration moat moslem know very few verses it is easy for sheiks to decree whatever they wish and let the masses follow them

      • Btru2u

        Thank you Constantine for showing the Christians’ true hatred for Islam. We Muslims have accepted The word of Jesus . Jesus spoke aramaic, so the current bible is a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original word, not to mention the different versions.. That is why the Koran has been revealed and preserved in an uncorrupted format and unchanged. Your venomous words prove true what the Koran says about you. Unfortunately you have chosen to reject Mohammed as a prophet , so you call him all the bad names. When you reject the word of god , you have rejected God, and the consequences will be on your soul not ours. You too will be rejected with that attitude .

        • Constantin7

          Btru2u,

          Let me clarify one thing and from where I come, I have no problem with muslims whatsoever, my problem is yes with Islam, its prophet and its teachings, that I cannot believe that logical educated people can still believe in it. No I don’t believe in Mohammad and there is no one Christian on this earth that believes in Mohammad, only Muslims believe in him BLINDLY. You say that you accepted the word of Jesus, tell me how ? By killing innocents ? by considering woman = 1/2 a man, by exercising Takyah (which is outright lies), Jesus told his followers to follow the 10 commandments that God gave to Moses, does Islam follow these 10 commandments, the first of which is you will love your God with all your heart, mind and soul. If I come in front of a muslim and I curse to God and blaspheme God, this muslim would not care at all, if I blaspheme the human Muhammad this muslim would kill me, this proves to me that you put Mohammad above God. If you blaspheme Jesus or God in front of me or any other christian, we would just feel sorry for you.
          Not that I believe in the Kuran, but the Kuran mentions that Jesus was born miraculously (from a virgin), it mentions that Jesus lived without sin, it mentions that Jesus is the Soul of God (Rouh Allah), and for me the Soul of God is GOD, it mentions that Jesus did miracles, raised the dead, and healed the sick, and yet none of these extraordinary facts were done by Mohammad (who by the way is not his original name given at birth – the words Muhammad and Mahmoud were names given to GOD in the Jahiliya time because only God Nahmuduhu, so Mohammad wanted the people to Yahmuduh (in other word to worship him), and yet you worship Mohammad much more than Jesus.

          Btru2u, you as a human being have much much more value, principles, decency and honor than the prophet of Islam who married a 6 years old and supposedly had sex with her at 9 (by decree from God). There is no one muslim  that I know who would do such an awful thing to a child, would you ? You are a much better person than your prophet, but Islam forces you to shut your eyes and mind and not to see the ugly reality of your prophet, unfortunately.

          Just  look at Islamic countries in the world and there you have your example of what Islam did to these countries and people. Saudi Arabia, with all the wealth they have, is the worst place on earth to live, people go there just for work and to make a living. I wish one day you will realize the truth and you walk out of the darkness of Islam to the light of Jesus Christ. You can always try it by testing Jesus and ask him (Jesus) to reveal the truth for you. Ask Jesus from the bottom of your heart and see how he will answer you. Pray for Mohammad and his God til the end of the world nobody is going to answer you. Good luck for you, because I know that  you love God and fear him, but the problem is your God is not the true loving merciful God that we know through our lord Jesus Christ. Yes Jesus is our Lord because Jesus, the perfect human without sin, is the reflexion of God in human form. Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the Life.

          I leave you in peace.

      • Btru2u

        Mr Constantine, You say that JESUS  is God. We say Jesus prayed to God. We pray to the one God that Jesus prayed to. To, me you have rejected faith in the unseen, so  I will not worship what you worship, and you will not worship what i worship, And i dont not want to worship what you worship, and you do not want to worship what i worship. to you be your way and to me mine.

  • Btru2u

    Thank you Constantine for showing the Christians’ true hatred for Islam. We Muslims have accepted The word of Jesus . Jesus spoke aramaic, so the current bible is a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original word, not to mention the different versions.. That is why the Koran has been revealed and preserved in an uncorrupted format and unchanged. Your venomous words prove true what the Koran says about you. Unfortunately you have chosen to reject Mohammed as a prophet , so you call him all the bad names. When you reject the word of god , you have rejected God, and the consequences will be on your soul not ours. You too will be rejected with that attitude .

    • Hannibal

      We know for a fact you are heretics… To us you are just infidels… The difference is our religion evolves with the times and yours stagnate. We haven’t rejected God but your religion… A BIG DIFFERENCE here. 

  • Btru2u

    Thank you Constantine for showing the Christians’ true hatred for Islam. We Muslims have accepted The word of Jesus . Jesus spoke aramaic, so the current bible is a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original word, not to mention the different versions.. That is why the Koran has been revealed and preserved in an uncorrupted format and unchanged. Your venomous words prove true what the Koran says about you. Unfortunately you have chosen to reject Mohammed as a prophet , so you call him all the bad names. When you reject the word of god , you have rejected God, and the consequences will be on your soul not ours. You too will be rejected with that attitude .

    • Hannibal

      We know for a fact you are heretics… To us you are just infidels… The difference is our religion evolves with the times and yours stagnate. We haven’t rejected God but your religion… A BIG DIFFERENCE here.