Jumblatt: ‘I wish we did not have the tribunal’

During a luncheon honoring Russian Ambassador Sergei Poukine on Sunday (on the occasion of the end of his mission to Lebanon), Democratic Gathering parliamentary bloc leader MP Walid Jumblatt said ‘ I wish we did not have the tribunal’.

He was referring to the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL).

STL was formed by the UN to identify and to try the killers of Lebanon’s former prime minister Rafik Hariri and the related crimes .

When the Russian ambassador told him: “You want the Tribunal. You shall have it.”

Jumblatt responded : “We got the tribunal, but I wish we did not.”

The luncheon was held at Jumblatt’s ancestral mansion in Mukhtara, Shouf in Mt Lebanon.

Jumblatt added that it would have been better if the Tribunal had never existed.

“The aim of UN Security Council Resolution 1559 and the 2006 July War was to disarm the Resistance. When this failed, they resorted to attempting to use the STL’s indictment to carry out this goal ,” Jumblatt said.

He also said that the tribunal’s pending indictment will destabilize Lebanon when it is issued and will lead to chaos.

“The best way to achieve justice in the 2005 assassination (of Hariri is to reveal the truth behind the witnesses who gave false testimony to the international commission investigating into the murder,” Jumblatt said.

Jumblatt who was one of the most outspoken Lebanese leaders in defense of the tribunal ( following Hariri’s assassination) is concerned that should STL indict Hezbollah members, this could lead to a Sunni-Shiite conflict similar to the one that brought the country to the brink of civil war in May 2008.

He is referring to the May 7 , 2008 event when gunmen of a Hezbollah-led alliance occupied the Sunni part of Beirut and tried but failed to occupy the Druze stronghold of Mt Lebanon . More Hezbollah gunmen were reportedly killed during the event than in the 2006 war with Israel.

Tension ran high in Lebanon following reports that the STL would soon indict Hezbollah members in Hariri’s murder.

False witnesses

The following Syrian agents , which were described as false witnesses provided information to the UN investigation team:

Mohammed Zuhair Siddiq also known as Mohamad Zouhair Siddik is a self proclaimed former Syrian intelligence operative who used to live in Lebanon.

Husam Taher Husam another self proclaimed former Syrian intelligence operative

Both provided information that led the Lebanese authorities to arrest the four Lebanese generals.

Husam now lives in Syria while Siddiq is reportedly now living in Australia

According to Ya Libnan legal advisers there is no such a thing as a false witness before indictments are made . Only the courts during the trial can determine whether a witness is for real or false. At this stage no body knows who will be indicted, despite the fact that Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has revealed that some members of the party will be indicted. Such information is not coming from STL …such information is most probably assumptions or extrapolations coming from Hezbollah members that were interrogated by the Investigators. The trials will start after the indictments are made . There are 12 judges , 4 of them are Lebanese .

Many Lebanese legal experts believe that the issue of false witnesses is being used by Hezbollah and its allies to undermine and discredit the Special Tribunal for Lebanon.

Gemayel: Our choice is the STL

“If our choice is either the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) with some incidents on the ground, or no tribunal, we will choose the STL no matter what the ramifications are ,” Phalange Party leader Amin Gemayel told MTV on Sunday.

The other side is not doing anything productive by issuing insults “and we do not know what their alternative to the STL is,” Gemayel said, asking “is the alternative unknown, or is it the destruction of the state, joining other entities, and returning to the era of tutelage?”

Gemayel also said that he is ready to go to Hezbollah and dialogue with them “if that presents a way out of the crisis,” adding that “this cannot be at the expense of the truth.”

Siniora- Lets unite behind STL

“We must unite behind the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) and cooperate in order for the tribunal to attain justice and the truth,” former Prime Minister Fouad Siniora told reporters in Saida on Sunday according to the National News Agency (NNA).

The STL is the product of Lebanese consensus in the national dialogue and previous governments to eliminate the practice of political assassinations in the country and is therefore a “foundational issue,” Siniora said, adding that whoever the tribunal indicts will have the full right to defend himself legally.

The Resistance’s guns should stay pointed toward Israel in order to free occupied Lebanese territory and ought not be used in Lebanon’s domestic arena, he also said, in reference to the my 2008 events when Hezbollah pointed its guns against the Lebanese citizens

  • Fauzia45

    You wish there were no STL!Well, you know that this desire is impossible!The STL is here !Wishes ,predictions,warnings ,accusations,and threats will continue !The STL will continue!!

  • Fauzia45

    You wish there were no STL!Well, you know that this desire is impossible!The STL is here !Wishes ,predictions,warnings ,accusations,and threats will continue !The STL will continue!!

  • Anonymous

    You wish there were no STL!Well, you know that this desire is impossible!The STL is here !Wishes ,predictions,warnings ,accusations,and threats will continue !The STL will continue!!

  • maria_h

    can you believe the nerve of this A$$hole? he pushed so hard for the stl and caused the may 7 events to occur.

    ya hayawan ibn meet sh@rmoot@, people died for your worthless cause and this is the best way to honor them, tfeh I hope you rot in hell

    • guss043

      You have tor need to read the history of the Joumblatt family to understand how crucial was their influence in the Lebanon event since the beginning of the 18 century. Joumblatt is doing what his family did historically is changing side as it suit their interests, and currently as I explained above he backed off as he realized if he stay in the same course he will have to face the Iranian party and face war maybe,we can survive without him and continue with the STL but he weakened 14 march and make it very tough for everyone,if not impossible to avoid confrontations with Syria and Iran

    • guss043

      You have tor need to read the history of the Joumblatt family to understand how crucial was their influence in the Lebanon event since the beginning of the 18 century. Joumblatt is doing what his family did historically is changing side as it suit their interests, and currently as I explained above he backed off as he realized if he stay in the same course he will have to face the Iranian party and face war maybe,we can survive without him and continue with the STL but he weakened 14 march and make it very tough for everyone,if not impossible to avoid confrontations with Syria and Iran

    • BigSami

      Amen! Could have not said it any better (or maybe added a few more insults to that two-faced scumbag) :-)

  • Anonymous

    can you believe the nerve of this A$$hole? he pushed so hard for the stl and caused the may 7 events to occur.

    ya hayawan ibn meet sh@rmoot@, people died for your worthless cause and this is the best way to honor them, tfeh I hope you rot in hell

    • Anonymous

      You have tor need to read the history of the Joumblatt family to understand how crucial was their influence in the Lebanon event since the beginning of the 18 century. Joumblatt is doing what his family did historically is changing side as it suit their interests, and currently as I explained above he backed off as he realized if he stay in the same course he will have to face the Iranian party and face war maybe,we can survive without him and continue with the STL but he weakened 14 march and make it very tough for everyone,if not impossible to avoid confrontations with Syria and Iran

    • Anonymous

      You have tor need to read the history of the Joumblatt family to understand how crucial was their influence in the Lebanon event since the beginning of the 18 century. Joumblatt is doing what his family did historically is changing side as it suit their interests, and currently as I explained above he backed off as he realized if he stay in the same course he will have to face the Iranian party and face war maybe,we can survive without him and continue with the STL but he weakened 14 march and make it very tough for everyone,if not impossible to avoid confrontations with Syria and Iran

    • Anonymous

      Amen! Could have not said it any better (or maybe added a few more insults to that two-faced scumbag) :-)

    • Anonymous

      Amen! Could have not said it any better (or maybe added a few more insults to that two-faced scumbag) :-)

  • guss043

    Joumblat also mentioned is better to cancel the international court and criticized Geagea indirectly for mentioning his father name , which I agree Geagea didn’t need to mention Kamal Joumblat name for the fact that he died because he opposed the Syrian intervention to prevent Joumblat / PLO/ Mourabitou / and other the victory ( as Joumblat saw it at that time a victory) and in his book Joumblat wanted to have Kleiaat as open city and have the Christian leaders sign their surnending,Joumblatt the father is a similar personality to Aoun but balanced and can portray logic but deep inside he wanted to be president and he had a lot of Historic hate against the Maronite as his grand grandfather was hanged by the Wali of Dimashk in 1840 and he blames the Maronite for it.
    We need to look really at Walid Joumblat politics as I understand that he change his politics as nothing is stable in politics , but to turrn 360 and comeback as an opposer of the truth and the STL for the killing for all cedars martyrs can’t be understood other than pure cowardliness!!!.
    We could understand that he doesn’t want to open wounds about his father and accepted why the Syrian killed him , as there is no doubt about it , Kamal Joumblat in his book knew that and he stated that month before his killing in the book that the Baath Party in Syria met with Assad prior to his assassination and there was a compromise about the danger that Kamal Joumblat is posing to thr Baath regime by calling the Syrian to revolt against Assad and the system and the decison was taken to eliminate him., need to say that Joumblat was heading to India days before his assassination to saty undisclosed period of time and the Syrian got him before his departure .
    For Joumblat the son ,he accepted that his father died and he paid the price of his politics and turn the chapter, but for us Hariri is not Joumblat , also Ghassan Tueini and Samir Kassir, those are people with no blood on their hand ,Hariri was a business man and a politician and a builder and he made himself from scratch, he’s not coming from a Feudal family like Joumblatt and he’s the prime minister of all Lebanese and wasn’t planning to defeat anyone , that’s why we want the truth , it didnt matter for Joumblatt Kamal as many were relieved to his death and considered that Assad did a favor to Lebanon by getting rid of him.
    Joublatt family history is full of dangerous politics ,,Joumblatt figure and representation is not what the free Lebanese look at very highly , and it is not a leadership for all Lebanese , that’s why though the Joumblat’s are very important family politically and caused many political changes in the Lebanon old and new history for the good for the worst ( for the Druze Joumblatt are the best between all communities to take care of their own especially Walid Joumblatt did take care of his mountain pretty goo but he;s far more tribal than his father and require full allegiance to him from the Druze communities ) but can’t be count on as allies , as they are very small minority and their number shrinked drastically in the war due to the immigration ,they have to keep their head low to survive and that’s why Joumblatt did when the Iranian party attacked the Druze villages , he had to turn because also he can stand some attacks bu t they are not by any means a match to Iranian party .Joumblatt is out of the Free Lebanon equation until the circumstances change and he need to review his standing , but for now he’s the reason to weaken Hariri the son position to seek the truth and behind the Aoun rising after he was shrinking ( as Joumblatt doesn’t wan to see the Christians united ever) and now he is very close to open fire ferociously on Geagea but is not again to his interest to weaken the Lebanese forces too,AS we could see as Kamal Salibi state in his book about Lebanon , that it was written to this family to play a big role in the history of Lebanon since Amir Fakhredien brought the Joumblatt to Lebanon as originally the family originated from the what is called Kurdistan now and their name was Jon Bouled as per Kamal el Salibi

  • Anonymous

    Joumblat also mentioned is better to cancel the international court and criticized Geagea indirectly for mentioning his father name , which I agree Geagea didn’t need to mention Kamal Joumblat name for the fact that he died because he opposed the Syrian intervention to prevent Joumblat / PLO/ Mourabitou / and other the victory ( as Joumblat saw it at that time a victory) and in his book Joumblat wanted to have Kleiaat as open city and have the Christian leaders sign their surnending,Joumblatt the father is a similar personality to Aoun but balanced and can portray logic but deep inside he wanted to be president and he had a lot of Historic hate against the Maronite as his grand grandfather was hanged by the Wali of Dimashk in 1840 and he blames the Maronite for it.
    We need to look really at Walid Joumblat politics as I understand that he change his politics as nothing is stable in politics , but to turrn 360 and comeback as an opposer of the truth and the STL for the killing for all cedars martyrs can’t be understood other than pure cowardliness!!!.
    We could understand that he doesn’t want to open wounds about his father and accepted why the Syrian killed him , as there is no doubt about it , Kamal Joumblat in his book knew that and he stated that month before his killing in the book that the Baath Party in Syria met with Assad prior to his assassination and there was a compromise about the danger that Kamal Joumblat is posing to thr Baath regime by calling the Syrian to revolt against Assad and the system and the decison was taken to eliminate him., need to say that Joumblat was heading to India days before his assassination to saty undisclosed period of time and the Syrian got him before his departure .
    For Joumblat the son ,he accepted that his father died and he paid the price of his politics and turn the chapter, but for us Hariri is not Joumblat , also Ghassan Tueini and Samir Kassir, those are people with no blood on their hand ,Hariri was a business man and a politician and a builder and he made himself from scratch, he’s not coming from a Feudal family like Joumblatt and he’s the prime minister of all Lebanese and wasn’t planning to defeat anyone , that’s why we want the truth , it didnt matter for Joumblatt Kamal as many were relieved to his death and considered that Assad did a favor to Lebanon by getting rid of him.
    Joublatt family history is full of dangerous politics ,,Joumblatt figure and representation is not what the free Lebanese look at very highly , and it is not a leadership for all Lebanese , that’s why though the Joumblat’s are very important family politically and caused many political changes in the Lebanon old and new history for the good for the worst ( for the Druze Joumblatt are the best between all communities to take care of their own especially Walid Joumblatt did take care of his mountain pretty goo but he;s far more tribal than his father and require full allegiance to him from the Druze communities ) but can’t be count on as allies , as they are very small minority and their number shrinked drastically in the war due to the immigration ,they have to keep their head low to survive and that’s why Joumblatt did when the Iranian party attacked the Druze villages , he had to turn because also he can stand some attacks bu t they are not by any means a match to Iranian party .Joumblatt is out of the Free Lebanon equation until the circumstances change and he need to review his standing , but for now he’s the reason to weaken Hariri the son position to seek the truth and behind the Aoun rising after he was shrinking ( as Joumblatt doesn’t wan to see the Christians united ever) and now he is very close to open fire ferociously on Geagea but is not again to his interest to weaken the Lebanese forces too,AS we could see as Kamal Salibi state in his book about Lebanon , that it was written to this family to play a big role in the history of Lebanon since Amir Fakhredien brought the Joumblatt to Lebanon as originally the family originated from the what is called Kurdistan now and their name was Jon Bouled as per Kamal el Salibi

  • josephphd

    with all you respect junblat you jut said a few days ago that you want satet rule at any price the stl is part of this supporting the state
    i mean you either do,nt uderstand how does this work or you are changing your mind evry 5 minutes like a 5 years old kid you need to be clear you either support the sate of lebanon and its constitiution or you support the outlaws and trators the (persian empire)
    you ca,nt be on both sides at the same time : it is simple you either for lebanon or against it;
    they say like father like son : your father was a very courageous man just be like he was you need to be courageous and support the legal elected state and do,nt be afraid or intimidated by the outlaws

  • josephphd

    with all you respect junblat you jut said a few days ago that you want satet rule at any price the stl is part of this supporting the state
    i mean you either do,nt uderstand how does this work or you are changing your mind evry 5 minutes like a 5 years old kid you need to be clear you either support the sate of lebanon and its constitiution or you support the outlaws and trators the (persian empire)
    you ca,nt be on both sides at the same time : it is simple you either for lebanon or against it;
    they say like father like son : your father was a very courageous man just be like he was you need to be courageous and support the legal elected state and do,nt be afraid or intimidated by the outlaws

  • Anonymous

    with all you respect junblat you jut said a few days ago that you want satet rule at any price the stl is part of this supporting the state

    i mean you either do,nt uderstand how does this work or you are changing your mind evry 5 minutes like a 5 years old kid you need to be clar you either support the sate of lebanon and its constitiution or you support the outlaws and trators the (persian empire)

    you ca,nt be on both sides at the same time : it is simple you either for lebanon or against it

  • josephphd

    if you are confused this is a hint:
    about your job is to protect and preserve the constituation and the sovreignity of the state at any price you defend these values that what you need to focus on and fight aganist the trators who put the interrest of foreign countries above the interrest of lebanon

  • Anonymous

    if you are confused this is a hint:

    about your job is to protect and preserve the constituation and the sovreignity of the state at any price you defend these values that what you need to focus on and fight aganist the trators who put the interrest of foreign countries above the interrest of lebanon

  • JadM

    Ya Jumblat,

    I wish you were never born and we never had lebanese politicians like you, you are a combination of contradictions and if you are not anything then you are defeinitley a man of no principles……no one should follow you as you are as blind as Aoun

  • JadM

    Ya Jumblat,

    I wish you were never born and we never had lebanese politicians like you, you are a combination of contradictions and if you are not anything then you are defeinitley a man of no principles……no one should follow you as you are as blind as Aoun