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Geagea: A sin cannot be corrected with another

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Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea said on Wednesday that the lack of a new Lebanese cabinet “is a grave sin.”

Commenting on Speaker Nabih Berri’s recent request to hold a parliamentary session before a new government is formed, Geagea said in a statement

“This grave sin cannot be corrected with another sin, which is to convene parliament before the government is formed, because the constitution does not allow it,” Geagea said, according to a statement issued by his office.

Geagea also said that the Hezbollah-led March 8 coalition should form a cabinet “that at least takes care of the people’s needs if it cannot form a government comprising technocrats or politicians.”

March 14 parties questioned Speaker Berri’s call for holding a parliamentary session before a new government is formed.

The Iranian and Syrian backed Hezbollah brought down PM Saad Hariri’s government on January 12 over STL’s imminent indictment which is widely expected to implicate Hezbollah members in the assassination of the father of caretaker PM

Lebanon has been run by a caretaker government since last January. Nagib Mikati was appointed in January as the PM designate with the backing of the new March 8 majority led by Hezbollah. March 14 leaders have repeatedly said that intimidation from Hezbollah’s weapons helped secure the parliamentary majority for Mikati’s nomination.

Disputes over cabinet formation have prevented Mikati from forming the cabinet. MP Michel Aoun is reportedly demanding a disproportionate share in the cabinet and is being backed by Hezbollah and Syria in his demands . Aoun is also reportedly insisting on being allocated the 2 most sensitive security portfolios : The ministries of Interior and communications and does not want the president to have any share in the cabinet . Aoun is also insisting that the president should not have a share in the cabinet

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60 responses to “Geagea: A sin cannot be corrected with another”

  1. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    let the lebaneese people decide hold a new election now
    that would be the best solution

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    let the lebaneese people decide hold a new election now
    that would be the best solution

  3. 316909 Avatar
    316909

    This man will become president some day. He really represents the Christians in Lebanon and out of all war lords he is the only one who spent time in jail for what he did during the war.

    1. Mazen_M Avatar
      Mazen_M

      I disagree that he should be president, not becuase I don’t like him, but because we need somebody new that is not related to any of these current politicians…..

      1. 316909 Avatar
        316909

        Agree or not its a reality. We all want a better Lebanon and a better selection in the elections but for now this is what we have. A new generation of Leaders should be encouraged but we basically grow up in a sort of a clan society and hate from the civil war still runs deep in some places.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Hannibal FOR PRESIDENT! lol

      2. kareemthehippy Avatar
        kareemthehippy

        THANK YOU MAZEN!

    2. Mazen_M Avatar
      Mazen_M

      I disagree that he should be president, not becuase I don’t like him, but because we need somebody new that is not related to any of these current politicians…..

      1. 316909 Avatar
        316909

        Agree or not its a reality. We all want a better Lebanon and a better selection in the elections but for now this is what we have. A new generation of Leaders should be encouraged but we basically grow up in a sort of a clan society and hate from the civil war still runs deep in some places.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Hannibal FOR PRESIDENT! lol

      2. kareemthehippy Avatar
        kareemthehippy

        THANK YOU MAZEN!

    3. UrOtherSide Avatar
      UrOtherSide

      He does not look or seem presidential. He needs to practice how to speak first; and stop too much gesturing with his hands. Also, he is accused of killing too many people so his best chance is to become a war lord again. He proved me right as I always have been saying that he misses the gun (el baroudi) hehehehe.

      P.S: with all resepect to LF’rs, but I think syria and HA are happy with leaders like him in the opposition.

      1. 316909 Avatar
        316909

        ya well berri is accused of killing a lot more, so is jamblat, Aoun, HA and even Harriri has blood on his hands now ( maybe not that much but he has some). Samir is the only one to have spent time in jail for that blood unlike the rest who like berri has been in power fopr 26 years.

    4. UrOtherSide Avatar
      UrOtherSide

      He does not look or seem presidential. He needs to practice how to speak first; and stop too much gesturing with his hands. Also, he is accused of killing too many people so his best chance is to become a war lord again. He proved me right as I always have been saying that he misses the gun (el baroudi) hehehehe.

      P.S: with all resepect to LF’rs, but I think syria and HA are happy with leaders like him in the opposition.

    5. Lebanon89 Avatar
      Lebanon89

      oh dear god, did you just say that you want a war lords to be president?! He is a sectarian, that is a the same as a racist, but uses religion instead of race to segregate people. What century are you from, and how can you favor that to the civil law proposed by Gen. Aoun, that ends sectarianism in Lebanon. Btw, Aoun is Lebanese as far as you’re concerned, train yourself to not reduce people to religious stereotypes. As soon as we take politics and mass murderers like Geagea out of religion, then we can start working on preserving it.

      1. 316909 Avatar
        316909

        Over Half the country is Shia the other 58% is 40% christian and the rest are sunni, druz and the other religions so Aouns plan would = HA in the presidents palace, HA as PM and HA in every seat in Parliament, Municipality and so on….. All leaders in Lebanon are War Lords and I dont support any one but LF has a lot more support than and other party in Lebanon and Kataib will support him also and that makes Christians well represented. Aoun basically has 6 or 7 MPs to his name the rest of his list is made of HA MPs, Amal MPs, Marada MPs and basically really only represents about 5% of the Christians. In Jbeil for example Aoun had a MP elected with about 200 Christian votes and 26000 shia votes. HA has been paying for Shia to move to other parts of Lebanon they dont control and change residency to that area so in the elections they can legally cheat.

        1. Beiruti Avatar
          Beiruti

          Where you get your facts from? That half the country is Shia?

          28% Shia28% Sunni
          40% Christian
          4% Druze & Other

          Yes Lebanons government is a bunch of warlords, and Geagea is the only one to have had blood washed from his hands for his crimes, he served a hefty prison sentence. Aoun has more blood on his hands than Geagea, he should still apologize for displacing 2/3 of Beirut. 

        2. 316909 Avatar
          316909

          Living in lebanon. Most christians and sunni are gone to europe, canada and america and most other sunni live and work in the gulf ( and a large number of christians in dubai and quatar). these people dont come back to vote and could care less. they can not be bought for $300 a vote and dont waste time voting for a criminal either way. when shia are being deported from all over the gulf and HA openly pays and supports people that join the party and women that wear Isharb get $300 a month. That $300 a month buys the vote. The makeup of lebanon is one thing and the people living in the country are another. I got this off a google search so I may be wrong…. It also could have been the amount of voters that turn out in lebanese elections cuz my search was about the demographics of the lebanese elections.

        3. 316909 Avatar
          316909

          Living in lebanon. Most christians and sunni are gone to europe, canada and america and most other sunni live and work in the gulf ( and a large number of christians in dubai and quatar). these people dont come back to vote and could care less. they can not be bought for $300 a vote and dont waste time voting for a criminal either way. when shia are being deported from all over the gulf and HA openly pays and supports people that join the party and women that wear Isharb get $300 a month. That $300 a month buys the vote. The makeup of lebanon is one thing and the people living in the country are another. I got this off a google search so I may be wrong…. It also could have been the amount of voters that turn out in lebanese elections cuz my search was about the demographics of the lebanese elections.

    6. Lebanon89 Avatar
      Lebanon89

      oh dear god, did you just say that you want a war lords to be president?! He is a sectarian, that is a the same as a racist, but uses religion instead of race to segregate people. What century are you from, and how can you favor that to the civil law proposed by Gen. Aoun, that ends sectarianism in Lebanon. Btw, Aoun is Lebanese as far as you’re concerned, train yourself to not reduce people to religious stereotypes. As soon as we take politics and mass murderers like Geagea out of religion, then we can start working on preserving it.

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    This man will become president some day. He really represents the Christians in Lebanon and out of all war lords he is the only one who spent time in jail for what he did during the war.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      I disagree that he should be president, not becuase I don’t like him, but because we need somebody new that is not related to any of these current politicians…..

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Agree or not its a reality. We all want a better Lebanon and a better selection in the elections, but for now this is what we have. A new generation of Leaders should be encouraged but we basically grow up in a sort of a clan society and hate from the civil war still runs deep in some places.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Hannibal FOR PRESIDENT! lol

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        THANK YOU MAZEN!

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        THANK YOU MAZEN!

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      He does not look or seem presidential. He needs to practice how to speak first; and stop too much gesturing with his hands. Also, he is accused of killing too many people so his best chance is to become a war lord again. He proved me right as I always have been saying that he misses the gun (el baroudi) hehehehe.

      P.S: with all resepect to LF’rs, but I think syria and HA are happy with leaders like him in the opposition.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        ya well berri is accused of killing a lot more, so is jamblat, Aoun, HA and even Harriri has blood on his hands now ( maybe not that much but he has some). Samir is the only one to have spent time in jail for that blood unlike the rest who like berri has been in power fopr 26 years.

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      oh dear god, did you just say that you want a war lords to be president?! He is a sectarian, that is a the same as a racist, but uses religion instead of race to segregate people. What century are you from, and how can you favor that to the civil law proposed by Gen. Aoun, that ends sectarianism in Lebanon. Btw, Aoun is Lebanese as far as you’re concerned, train yourself to not reduce people to religious stereotypes. As soon as we take politics and mass murderers like Geagea out of religion, then we can start working on preserving it.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Over Half the country is Shia the other 58% is 40% christian and the rest are sunni, druz and the other religions so Aouns plan would = HA in the presidents palace, HA as PM and HA in every seat in Parliament, Municipality and so on….. All leaders in Lebanon are War Lords and I dont support any one but LF has a lot more support than and other party in Lebanon and Kataib will support him also and that makes Christians well represented. Aoun basically has 6 or 7 MPs to his name the rest of his list is made of HA MPs, Amal MPs, Marada MPs and basically really only represents about 5% of the Christians. In Jbeil for example Aoun had a MP elected with about 200 Christian votes and 26000 shia votes. HA has been paying for Shia to move to other parts of Lebanon they dont control and change residency to that area so in the elections they can legally cheat.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Where you get your facts from? That half the country is Shia?

          28% Shia28% Sunni
          40% Christian
          4% Druze & Other

          Yes Lebanons government is a bunch of warlords, and Geagea is the only one to have had blood washed from his hands for his crimes, he served a hefty prison sentence. Aoun has more blood on his hands than Geagea, he should still apologize for displacing 2/3 of Beirut. 

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Where you get your facts from? That half the country is Shia?

          28% Shia28% Sunni
          40% Christian
          4% Druze & Other

          Yes Lebanons government is a bunch of warlords, and Geagea is the only one to have had blood washed from his hands for his crimes, he served a hefty prison sentence. Aoun has more blood on his hands than Geagea, he should still apologize for displacing 2/3 of Beirut. 

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Living in lebanon. Most christians and sunni are gone to europe, canada and america and most other sunni live and work in the gulf when shia are being deported from all over the gulf. The makeup of lebanon is one thing and the people living in the country are another. I got this off a google search so I may be wrong….

  5. Beiruti Avatar
    Beiruti

    This man is a great man, he’s a leader, he learned to be humble through out his jail time.
    Comparing to Aoun who barks when he doesn’t get stuff his way. Geagea is a very humble and civilized man, as much as some people hate this man. You cannot reject the fact he serves the Lebanese, not Iran or Syria. To my surprise recent polls show that Geagea has even gained popularity in some Muslim areas. For those of you that are going to comment against Geagea, please tell me one wrong thing about him. I do not want to hear comments about Geagea and the Civil War those days are long gone. This is a new Lebanon and Geagea has learned to be humble and not arrogant like most of these leaders.

    1. kareemthehippy Avatar
      kareemthehippy

      Beiruti, I agree. Geagea is alot wiser than Aoun, and is much more approachable.  However, let’s keep in mind that March 14 is backed and influenced by the US, Geagea included.  There are little to no Lebanese politicians who are independent thinkers, because the public is so polarized.

      My biggest concern with Geagea is him sticking with the Confessionalist/6a2if system..Aoun’s doctrine has gender equality and secularism, and that’s something I think March 14 lacks.
      THe ideologies from both coalitions can come to a very nice balance to benefit Lebanon, but I think we need more sincere people representing our country.

      Obviously, I’m not saying this to insult you, as many on here have been taking me as someone who just insults people, but obviously, I have ideas that I’m trying to share

      1. Lebanon89 Avatar
        Lebanon89

        You said “gender equality and secularism”, exactly, and that’s why the patriotic party is 200 years ahead of its sectarian opponents. Geagea and Hariri supporters openly declared their sectarianism, they want “pure neighborhoods”. They are therefore Lebanese KKK equivalent. Evolved Lebanese want diverse neighborhoods. The only thing for them to do is make way for the “gender equality and secularism” you mentioned, and only available through the civil law proposed by Gen. Aoun and supporting parliament members.  On the Saudi side, clergy and old sectarian war lords are rejecting the civil law, again proof that they freeze Lebanon in the past. The choice seems obvious to me.

    2. kareemthehippy Avatar
      kareemthehippy

      Beiruti, I agree. Geagea is alot wiser than Aoun, and is much more approachable.  However, let’s keep in mind that March 14 is backed and influenced by the US, Geagea included.  There are little to no Lebanese politicians who are independent thinkers, because the public is so polarized.

      My biggest concern with Geagea is him sticking with the Confessionalist/6a2if system..Aoun’s doctrine has gender equality and secularism, and that’s something I think March 14 lacks.
      THe ideologies from both coalitions can come to a very nice balance to benefit Lebanon, but I think we need more sincere people representing our country.

      Obviously, I’m not saying this to insult you, as many on here have been taking me as someone who just insults people, but obviously, I have ideas that I’m trying to share

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    This man is a great man, he’s a leader, he learned to be humble through out his jail time.
    Comparing to Aoun who barks when he doesn’t get stuff his way. Geagea is a very humble and civilized man, as much as some people hate this man. You cannot reject the fact he serves the Lebanese, not Iran or Syria. To my surprise recent polls show that Geagea has even gained popularity in some Muslim areas. For those of you that are going to comment against Geagea, please tell me one wrong thing about him. I do not want to hear comments about Geagea and the Civil War those days are long gone. This is a new Lebanon and Geagea has learned to be humble and not arrogant like most of these leaders.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Beiruti, I agree. Geagea is alot wiser than Aoun, and is much more approachable.  However, let’s keep in mind that March 14 is backed and influenced by the US, Geagea included.  There are little to no Lebanese politicians who are independent thinkers, because the public is so polarized.

      My biggest concern with Geagea is him sticking with the Confessionalist/6a2if system..Aoun’s doctrine has gender equality and secularism, and that’s something I think March 14 lacks.
      THe ideologies from both coalitions can come to a very nice balance to benefit Lebanon, but I think we need more sincere people representing our country.

      Obviously, I’m not saying this to insult you, as many on here have been taking me as someone who just insults people, but obviously, I have ideas that I’m trying to share

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        You said “gender equality and secularism”, exactly, and that’s why the patriotic party is 200 years ahead of its sectarian opponents. Geagea and Hariri supporters openly declared their sectarianism, they want “pure neighborhoods”. They are therefore Lebanese KKK equivalent. Evolved Lebanese want diverse neighborhoods. The only thing for them to do is make way for the “gender equality and secularism” you mentioned, and only available through the civil law proposed by Gen. Aoun and supporting parliament members.  On the Saudi side, clergy and old sectarian war lords are rejecting the civil law, again proof that they freeze Lebanon in the past. The choice seems obvious to me.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Beiruti, I agree. Geagea is alot wiser than Aoun, and is much more approachable.  However, let’s keep in mind that March 14 is backed and influenced by the US, Geagea included.  There are little to no Lebanese politicians who are independent thinkers, because the public is so polarized.

      My biggest concern with Geagea is him sticking with the Confessionalist/6a2if system..Aoun’s doctrine has gender equality and secularism, and that’s something I think March 14 lacks.
      THe ideologies from both coalitions can come to a very nice balance to benefit Lebanon, but I think we need more sincere people representing our country.

      Obviously, I’m not saying this to insult you, as many on here have been taking me as someone who just insults people, but obviously, I have ideas that I’m trying to share

  7. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    they do not care about a constitution or a country or even the pple they represent…they can do whatever they like however they like…as long as it serves the interests of their paternal countries in iran and syria..

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    they do not care about a constitution or a country or even the pple they represent…they can do whatever they like however they like…as long as it serves the interests of their paternal countries in iran and syria..

  9. kareemthehippy Avatar
    kareemthehippy

    Geagea is pretty wise, even though I’m not right wing like he is…but I just really hope March 14 and March 8 simmer out of Lebanese society.  They’ve all committed crimes, and I can’t vote or support that sort of thing.

    Imagine none of these politicians did what they did throughout the civil war and practiced a fair and balanced secular democracy in the 70s and 80s? We’d be stable, thriving..and I’d probably be in AUB now LOL

  10. kareemthehippy Avatar
    kareemthehippy

    Geagea is pretty wise, even though I’m not right wing like he is…but I just really hope March 14 and March 8 simmer out of Lebanese society.  They’ve all committed crimes, and I can’t vote or support that sort of thing.

    Imagine none of these politicians did what they did throughout the civil war and practiced a fair and balanced secular democracy in the 70s and 80s? We’d be stable, thriving..and I’d probably be in AUB now LOL

  11. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Geagea is pretty wise, even though I’m not right wing like he is…but I just really hope March 14 and March 8 simmer out of Lebanese society.  They’ve all committed crimes, and I can’t vote or support that sort of thing.

    Imagine none of these politicians did what they did throughout the civil war and practiced a fair and balanced secular democracy in the 70s and 80s? We’d be stable, thriving..and I’d probably be in AUB now LOL

  12. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Geagea is pretty wise, even though I’m not right wing like he is…but I just really hope March 14 and March 8 simmer out of Lebanese society.  They’ve all committed crimes, and I can’t vote or support that sort of thing.

    Imagine none of these politicians did what they did throughout the civil war and practiced a fair and balanced secular democracy in the 70s and 80s? We’d be stable, thriving..and I’d probably be in AUB now LOL

  13. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    Beiruti,

    Honestly ur half accurate,according to this poll that i posted,it ses shia are 28 to 49 percent of the population,

    and or christians are 25 to 43 percent of the population…..so really there are no official numbers…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Lebanon

    1. Ruth Reyes Avatar
      Ruth Reyes

      Michael- You are learning and citing your sources- there is hope. If only it was a reputable source, for all we know you added those stats to wikipedia and then quoted yourself, just kidding. Good Job.

      1. Michael Avatar
        Michael

        Ruth,

        I guess you can say im a quick learner,honestly i really live and die by

        the show me facts doctrine and save your opionions for coffee,but I got

        caught up in the moment,made somewhat of a mistake,accepted responsibilty,

        and apologized,lol your never gonna let me step that down are u.lol..do i have

        to pull a ziad baroud and resign for u to be happy,hahaha,and common you should

        know me better than that by now,if i re wrote those numbers i wouldnt give the large

        differences,I wouldve said 60 percent shia,lol…anyway Ruth I hope you have a nice

        and blessed day…:)

        1. Ruth Reyes Avatar
          Ruth Reyes

          Michael- 

          I am of the opinion (I am having coffee now so I have the right to have an opinion in your world, lol) that statistics and numbers have a place in discussion but they should not be the primary focus of your argument. Statistics simply strengthen an argument, opinion is the driving force, the motivating factor. Politics in essence is a circus of opinion, the issues prevail but they are only worthy of what one person is willing to discuss. If any of our politicians stood at that podium and cited one statistic after another we would all soon fall asleep. Numbers are not what excite the populous, it isn’t what gets people talking.

           However, I will say that you have learned two very important lessons that are quite impressive to a person like me. 1. You have admitted fault, virtually unheard of in this day and age and 2. Made the necessary corrections. For the most part people will defend their bad behavior rather than admitting fault, so you are quite unique and I will forgive your faux pas and never mention that blunder again. 

          Have an equally wonderful and blessed day,
          Ruth

      2. Michael Avatar
        Michael

        Ruth,

        I guess you can say im a quick learner,honestly i really live and die by

        the show me facts doctrine and save your opionions for coffee,but I got

        caught up in the moment,made somewhat of a mistake,accepted responsibilty,

        and apologized,lol your never gonna let me step that down are u.lol..do i have

        to pull a ziad baroud and resign for u to be happy,hahaha,and common you should

        know me better than that by now,if i re wrote those numbers i wouldnt give the large

        differences,I wouldve said 60 percent shia,lol…anyway Ruth I hope you have a nice

        and blessed day…:)

    2. 316909 Avatar
      316909

      28 to 49% thats a really large margin. 49% is close to half. Thats not the point though. They all pretty much vote because it they dont the society they live in will turn on them and HA may be paying them for being party members, or having women in the house that wear the Isharb….. I said it was a google search and my be off….

    3. 316909 Avatar
      316909

      28 to 49% thats a really large margin. 49% is close to half. Thats not the point though. They all pretty much vote because it they dont the society they live in will turn on them and HA may be paying them for being party members, or having women in the house that wear the Isharb….. I said it was a google search and my be off….

  14. Ruth Reyes Avatar
    Ruth Reyes

    Michael- You are learning and citing your sources- there is hope. If only it was a reputable source, for all we know you added those stats to wikipedia and then quoted yourself, just kidding. Good Job.

    1. Michael Avatar
      Michael

      Ruth,

      I guess you can say im a quick learner,honestly i really live and die by

      the show me facts doctrine and save your opionions for coffee,but I got

      caught up in the moment,made somewhat of a mistake,accepted responsibilty,

      and apologized,lol your never gonna let me step that down are u.lol..do i have

      to pull a ziad baroud and resign for u to be happy,hahaha,and common you should

      know me better than that by now,if i re wrote those numbers i wouldnt give the large

      differences,I wouldve said 60 percent shia,lol…anyway Ruth I hope you have a nice

      and blessed day…:)

      1. Ruth Reyes Avatar
        Ruth Reyes

        Michael- 

        I am of the opinion (I am having coffee now so I have the right to have an opinion in your world, lol) that statistics and numbers have a place in discussion but they should not be the primary focus of your argument. Statistics simply strengthen an argument, opinion is the driving force, the motivating factor. Politics in essence is a circus of opinion, the issues prevail but they are only worthy of what one person is willing to discuss. If any of our politicians stood at that podium and cited one statistic after another we would all soon fall asleep. Numbers are not what excite the populous, it isn’t what gets people talking.

         However, I will say that you have learned two very important lessons that are quite impressive to a person like me. 1. You have admitted fault, virtually unheard of in this day and age and 2. Made the necessary corrections. For the most part people will defend their bad behavior rather than admitting fault, so you are quite unique and I will forgive your faux pas and never mention that blunder again. 

        Have an equally wonderful and blessed day,
        Ruth

  15. Avatar
    Anonymous

    28 to 49% thats a really large margin. 49% is close to half. Thats not the point though. They all pretty much vote because it they dont the society they live in will turn on them and HA may be paying them for being party members, or having women in the house that wear the Isharb….. I said it was a google search and my be off….

  16. Fadi81 Avatar
    Fadi81

    Congrats Dr Geagea, you continue to drive the enemies of our country crazy with hate…If you tell it how it is, they label you sectarian….small price to pay in defense of our heritage.

    God Bless Lebanon! 

  17. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Congrats Dr Geagea, you continue to drive the enemies of our country crazy with hate…If you tell it how it is, they label you sectarian….small price to pay in defense of our heritage.

    God Bless Lebanon! 

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