Trump trying to ‘make America great again’ by courting Jewish settlers in the West Bank

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File - In this Monday, Aug. 15, 2016 file photo, Marc Zell, co-chairman of Republicans Overseas Israel speaks as the Republican Party launches its first ever election campaign in Israel in Modiin. Supporters of Republican candidate Donald Trump have set up a campaign office in a Jewish settlement in the northern West Bank, hoping to tap into the large numbers of American immigrants in the area for support. The operation, launched this week in the Karnei Shomron settlement, is one of several Republican outposts set up across Israel to get American expatriates to register to vote. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit, File)
File – In this Monday, Aug. 15, 2016 file photo, Marc Zell, co-chairman of Republicans Overseas Israel speaks as the Republican Party launches its first ever election campaign in Israel in Modiin. Supporters of Republican candidate Donald Trump have set up a campaign office in a Jewish settlement in the northern West Bank, hoping to tap into the large numbers of American immigrants in the area for support. The operation, launched this week in the Karnei Shomron settlement, is one of several Republican outposts set up across Israel to get American expatriates to register to vote. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit, File)

Republican activists are trying to “make America great again” – from inside a Jewish settlement deep in the West Bank.

This week, supporters of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump have set up a campaign office in the Karnei Shomron settlement in the northern West Bank, hoping to tap into the large numbers of American immigrants in the area for support.

The office is in addition to several Republican outposts set up across Israel to get American expatriates to register to vote. A new location in Gush Etzion, a bloc of settlements near Jerusalem, is expected to open next week. It’s believed to be the first time either Republican or the Democrat activists have placed a campaign office in the West Bank.

Marc Zell, co-chair of Republicans Overseas Israel, said the get-out-the-vote effort is not just for show.

His group estimates there are about 300,000 American citizens living in Israel, including some 50,000 West Bank settlers. Zell hopes as many as 200,000 of them will register to vote. With the vast majority believed to be Republicans, he said there could be enough votes to influence results in swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida.

“The total Israeli vote could make a difference, as it has in the past,” he said. In 2000, for instance, he said about 1,500 Americans here cast ballots in Florida for George W. Bush – enough to provide the razor-thin margin that propelled him to victory.

“Had they not been counted, he would not have been president,” Zell said. “It’s not academic speculation.”

Donald Trump  is increasingly using  Israel as a pawn in attempting to reach Jewish voters and non-Jewish supporters of Israel. Trump has reportedly  opened the same number of fully operational campaign offices in the West Bank as he has in Florida and New Hampshire.
Donald Trump is increasingly using Israel as a pawn in attempting to reach Jewish voters and non-Jewish supporters of Israel. Trump has reportedly opened the same number of fully operational campaign offices in the West Bank as he has in Florida and New Hampshire.

Zell said the decision to locate outreach offices in the West Bank was not meant to make a “specific” political statement.

“But we’re not oblivious to the fact that having a campaign office there is going to attract attention. We’re comfortable about doing it,” he said.

Although the offices are not formal branches of the Trump campaign, he said they are “closely coordinated” with Republican officials in the U.S.

In Washington, Trump’s campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks welcomed the effort.

“We have a lot of grassroots support – no official offices, but so many supporters there that know Mr. Trump will be great for Israel,” she said.

While American Jews tend to vote for the Democrats, many living in Israel, particularly in the West Bank settlements, tend to be religious and socially conservative, with much more hawkish views toward the Palestinians.

Zell, who during the primaries opposed Trump, said he came to embrace the Republican nominee in large part because of his views on Israel.

Early in the campaign, Trump upset a gathering of Republican Jews by refusing to endorse Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel – a key Israeli position. Some of his other comments were seen by some as promoting Jewish stereotypes.

But since then, Trump has described himself as “very pro-Israel” and has taken up a host of positions endorsed by Israel’s hard-line government.

Trump has vowed to “dismantle” the U.S.-led nuclear deal with Iran, which was bitterly opposed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The Republican platform also says there should be “no daylight” between Israel and America.

In an about-face for Trump, the platform now calls for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a position that puts the campaign at odds with the international community and ignores the Palestinians’ claim to east Jerusalem as their capital.

The Trump campaign also appears to distance itself from the position of recent administrations – both Republican and Democrat – that opposed Israeli settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

While Trump’s platform makes no direct reference to the settlements, it rejects “the false notion that Israel is an occupier” and opposes any attempt to “impose an agreement or to dictate borders.”

The Palestinians seek both areas, captured by Israel in 1967, as parts of a future independent state alongside Israel – a position with U.S. and wide international backing. Trump has given no vision on what a future Israeli-Palestinian peace deal should look like, saying the two sides need to work it out themselves.

“He’s not coming here with preconceived notions about what to do,” Zell said. “This could be a real watershed in changing policy-thinking in Washington toward our region.”

Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton, has also reached out to Israelis, giving an interview to the country’s largest TV station broadcast Thursday. In the interview, Clinton said that Trump’s hostile rhetoric toward Muslims has strengthened jihadis. She also tried to assure Israelis that the U.S.-led nuclear deal with Iran is good for Israel. Many Israelis share Netanyahu’s skepticism about the deal.

Neither the Trump nor the Hillary Clinton campaign has appeared to reach out to the much smaller number of Palestinian-American voters in the region.

Sam Bahour, a prominent Palestinian-American businessman in the West Bank, said he had not heard of any outreach from either side. “Guess the incentive of the selection of candidates is a non-starter,” he said in an email.

The U.S. Embassy in Israel said it does not keep track of the number of Americans living in the region. But Sheldon Schorer, a prominent Democratic activist in Israel, agreed with Zell’s estimates of roughly 200,000 potential voters.

However, he said he expects most to support Clinton. Although local Democrats are less organized than the Republicans, he said party activists are also hosting registration drives and educational events.

“I know the Republicans are investing very heavily in this … but I don’t think they are going to get the results they want,” he said. “I think they will be disappointed today, partially because of the unattractiveness of their candidate.”

Associated Press

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208 responses to “Trump trying to ‘make America great again’ by courting Jewish settlers in the West Bank”

  1. man-o-war Avatar

    Another reason you know Dump is a terrible candidate for president. Panders to xenophobic religious bigots and racist. Has the support of the KKK, white supremacist groups, and white nationalist groups, and now you can add bigoted illegal settlers to the list.

    1. That’s the problem when people have dual citizenship.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        One of the build-ups to the ‘New World Order’ and modern ‘job seeking’ … not just seeking something in a next state, but anywhere one can find something … ‘worldly citizens’, that everyone is, after all. :-)))))

        1. The ‘New World Order’ – Erdogan style, in your dreams.

          “not just seeking something in a next state, but anywhere one can find something … ”

          You must be joking, ” ‘worldly citizens’ “, are YOU one of those with dual citizenship?

          Is your loyalty clear for you?

          1. While you continue to troll, the real culprits for the influx of refugees in Europe passes several mile above your empty head. -> I’ll give you a “hint”: the Anglo-American-Zionist thugs. Make European hate Arabs while the Anglo-American-Zionist thugs destroy the Arab world. Ever asked yourself why they (the Anglo-Americans) topple secular leaders for Islamist zealots?

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And who funded the printing of the free ‘walking maps’ being handed out on the north shores of Africa to folks taking an insane chance on a boat-crossing? Or paid the lunch-funds for the ones handing them out?

          3. Exactly.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I will stay a citizen of where I was born. It’s been lovely, thank you.
            Had I wanted to CHANGE it, legally, I would have put in the years to do it.
            Being a ‘wordly’ citizen only requires being aware of it. It’s remarkably diverse.

          5. In other words you embrace the anarchists subversive slogan on the wall?

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hardly embraceable, that … it’s not very artistic And it’s certainly not logical.
            Although being anarchistic is not necessarily being subversive, is it. Many people simply avoid recognizing some laws every day … especially those small ‘unwritten’ ones … such as yourself assuming ‘character’ from a single remark … or being generally (and tediously) unsociable to 2 or more people who may live half a world away from each other, and yet to your bewilderment, who have discovered some commonalities in thoughts passing between them.

          7. Sheer bullshit!

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Oh Yeah indeed I’m an diot!

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (add an ‘o’ to make too …. delete ‘did’ … Capitalize ‘C’ on Canadian. (free lesson))

          10. “(another non-answer…)”

          11. Since you refused to tell how much did you paid for your canadian citizenship, than you are just another lebanese on this forum that pretends to be canadian….

            Grilled again by the Inquisitor. ๐Ÿ™‚

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar

            This is Quebec flag stupid inquisitor, 5th is in Ontario

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yup .. we have different flowers.
            And your question was answered about 3 years ago … you should read back.
            (maybe it was 4 …)

          14. 3 years ago I didn’t have a reason to check the Ya Libnan, maybe you just repit your answer. ????

          15. You are aware that I wasn’t on this forum 3 “(maybe it was 4 …)” years ago, try with another stupid explanation!

            Maybe you should just repeat your answer…..

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh FOR SURE ‘we’ are aware you, and other belligerent types who pop up from ‘nowhere’, were not here 5 or so years ago when this ‘project’ first began, with people who had a genuine interest in discussing problems without simply just trashing anyone who differed in opinions … revisions in ‘site management’ unfortunately changed greatly in that time, and now we have these simply silly ‘few’ who only come to aggravate, resulting in the degredation of same. But I’ll answer your irrelevant question ….
            Born Canadian … Three generations on one side and perhaps 7 on the other, and my own lifetime, with all the taxes and services those lives gave to making a country which largely functioned well for all it’s people, are not capable of being accounted for in a ‘monetary’ sense, no matter how you attempt to make it seem anyone could.
            ‘Canadian’ IS the only answer for a Census-form … no matter what the ‘charts&graphs’ folks want to do with tracking the ancient past ‘connections’, or how some ‘revisionists’ attempt to now turn it into a cock-up, as they do in other places.

          17. Who are “WE”?

            I got the impression that you are a lebanese living in Canada.

            I noticed it too that folks always tracking the ancient past, not the current time, and I don’t approve of this approach.

            The future is what counts, not the past.

            I had noticed too that discussing problems, without trashing anyone who differed in opinions is all too frequent phenomenon, and the insult of all varieties.

            In order not to be confronted with those insults from some participants in this forum, I simply blocked these individuals.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f27c48f8485c8d75f99cdd4d7a69d2c57698cc10c0ab329dc83a74f820fb9f79.jpg
            They can’t pollute anymore my mailbox.

          18. Italicized with Matrix.

            Bold with Oh Yeah.

            You take the cake du con, all of it.

          19. Oh le con!

      2. Only barbarian Arabs, Nazis and Communists deny people the citizenship of the country of their birth.

        1. Is linking Arabs to Nazis and Communists your new task at work? Work as in the Anglo-American-Zionist troll you are. Go ahead and deny it but when you don’t troll here, you go full-throttle on other new site demonizing Russia and Putin. Coincidentally, demonizing a country that bothers is one of the variables in the the Anglo-American-Zionist equation.

          There is no doubt that the Anglo-American-Zionists have cunningly but successfully associated “evil” to Nazism, Communism and now Arabs (via the demonization of Muslims/Islam). It’s part of their clever but evil tactic. The alleged islamist terrorist attacks in Europe for instance are nothing but CIA-MOSSAD false-flags to make the Europeans hate Arabs while the Anglo-American-Israeli entity destroys the Arab world.

          Aside from that, it’s most important to note that that “Arabs” are a people, an ethnicity while Nazism and Communism are Anglo inventions meant to further their warmongering agenda in Europe and around the world.

          Some of the many objectives of Nazism was keep industrious Germany weak, divided and reliant on foreign military imports, bring Jewish-hating Hitler (an Anglo stooge who admired England) to power, create the hostile against Jews (to create the Zionist State of IsraHell), etc.

          Communism and the Bolshevik Revolution, funded by the British, was meant to weaken Tsar-Russia (the fastest growing industry and biggest oil producer back then), make the country needy of foreign imports and loot its natural resources. That same Communism spread to China (known as Maoism) with the same exact goal: prevent China from become a Capitalist power. And it it wasn’t enough, Communism spread to Latin America and the Caribbean where the CIA helped bring and keep Castro in power for decades.

          1. Just looking at your alternate reality spin on history. Let me get this straight, you are saying the US or Britain is responsible for all the crappy dictators and communist countries in the world? You got some things right, but most of it was typical conspiracy theory.
            Relating to evil dictators, Islamist rule takes it even further by telling their people which gods to pray to and following his command through Clerics and Ayatollah kings.
            Everyone is entitled to their beliefs…unless they happen to live in one of these crappy countries that make free speech illegal and they must conform or die.
            Do you ever feel sorry for the people that don’t have your rights and freedoms and have to live under insane governments like Saudis and Iranians, etc. But you would be ok because all you spout is mullah propaganda and disinformation.

          2. Just looking at your alternate reality spin on history.

            It’s neither my alternate reality nor my spin on history. You are only acquainted with the tailored, filtered, mainstream version of history written by court-historians.

            Let me get this straight, you are saying the US or Britain is responsible for all the crappy dictators and communist countries in the world?

            I am not saying anything. If I did, it would only be my opinion

            Some examples …

            Karl Marx was funded by the Brits (through four banks in Europe) who spread the Communist ideology via the Bolsheviks (Lenin, Trotsky, etc) in the aim of weakening Tsar-Russia (the fastest growing industry and biggest oil producer in the world back then) by making the country focus only on agriculture and thus, needy of foreign imports. The ultimate goal was to collapse Tsar-Russia to loot its natural resources. Ref.: http://bit.ly/1BKddhq , http://bit.ly/1uDHYBj

            The same Communism spread to China for the same reason: prevent China from becoming a powerful Capitalist country. Maoism kept China underdeveloped for decades; it’s Deng Xiaoping who put it back on track. Ref.: http://bit.ly/2cMtznM

            Cuba, not any different. Mainstream history tells us that Communist Castro toppled Batista but there is no mention of the CIA helping Castro come and stay in power (with US arms, not Soviet). It comes to no surprise that the CIA, “failed” to assassinate Castro more than 630 times. Ref.: http://amzn.to/2cifSse

            The โ€œFrenchโ€ Revolution was funded by the British East-India Company, Barings Banks and other British sources as a punishment on France for aiding Americans in their Revolution. Ref. (Chap 2) http://bit.ly/1BKddhq

            Napoleon Bonaparte himself was a British agent. Ref. http://bit.ly/2cLL5FT

            The โ€œArab Springโ€ was CIA instigated. Ref. http://bit.ly/2aMuUp1

            Anti-India (Pakistan) was a created by the British as a punishment for freeing themselves from the British rule. Ref. http://bit.ly/2cLDhUe

            Pol Potโ€™s Khmer Rouge was supported by Anglo-America. Ref. http://bit.ly/2csJFn5

            Mussolini was funded and worked for Britainโ€™s MI5. Ref. http://bit.ly/2ctJVAN

            Hitler (who admired Britain) was funded and groomed by the Brits for several reasons: keep industrious Germany divided, created a hostile environment for the Jews but most importantly prep Germany to wage a war against Russia so they bleed each other. Ref. http://bit.ly/2c61uG8

            You got some things right, but most of it was typical conspiracy theory.

            What do I get right and what is conspiracy theory? What do you base what I got right or wrong on? When you provide absolutely nothing to back yourself up, it is only your opinion.

            Relating to evil dictators, Islamist rule takes it even further by telling their people which gods to pray to and following his command through Clerics and Ayatollah kings.

            Your Iranophobia is really comical, do you have nightmares of Khomeinis chasing you? Unplug from the mainstream media for a change. Never a mention of Wahhabi zealots passing themselves as Imams. Wahhabis as in al-Qaeda, ISIS-ISIL, al-Nusra, Boko Haram, etc. Your attempt a relating โ€œClericsโ€ to Sunni Imams is lamentable.

            Britain has always had close ties with Islamists in the Middle East. They have always used the zealot muslims as proxies to further their agenda. Whether it was to fight Soviet expansionism, topple leaders who bothered or invade countries. Is that really something new?

            The Shah in Iran was put in power by Anglo-America with the help of conservative mullahs. He was removed when he started making deals and partnered with competitor nations to Anglo-America. The Shah also had cancer and his longevity was uncertain. The CIA took the opportunity to bring another stooge of theirs: the Ayatollah Khomeini with the shady Farsi accent, a mother from Kashmir and a father of dubious origin (last name was Williamson). Remember the Iran-Contra affair and the withheld of the American hostage at the request of the US. Ref. http://bit.ly/2c53mPy

            Everyone is entitled to their beliefs…unless they happen to live in one of these crappy countries that make free speech illegal and they must conform or die.

            True but relevance? โ€œOne of these crappy countries โ€œ – let me guess: Iran? I am only interested in the absolute truth. The fact that it may be contradictory to popular belief and in complete opposition to mainstream history is irrelevant to me.

            Do you ever feel sorry for the people that don’t have your rights and freedoms and have to live under insane governments like Saudis and Iranians, etc..

            I absolutely do. I am not the one supporting the warmongering Anglo-American-Zionist criminals and their Wahhabi proxies, you are. I recommend you educate yourself on the role Britain has played against humanity (in Europe, Africa, Asia, Latin America) for the past two centuries.

            Adding “Saudis” for a change – after I called you out several times in your last comments for never bringing them up doesn’t make you less hypocrite.

            But you would be ok because all you spout is mullah propaganda and disinformation

            Well, there you go. The troll in you has spoken again; you just couldnโ€™t help it.

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Winston Churchill
            “I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between communism and nazism, I would choose communism.
            Speaking in the House of Commons, autumn 1937”

            “This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)… this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
            Writing on ‘Zionism versus Bolshevism’ in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 1920″

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar

          Said the neo-Nazi, who deny Palestinian people the citizenship of the country of their birth.

          1. But Palestine was never a country.

          2. Neither was IsraHell du con.

          3. Oh yes it is.

          4. How sweet, but since 1948, it’s Israel. Da Nile is in Egypt.

          5. Destination: P.O. Box 303 Tel-Aviv, Palestine

          6. 1930. It’s 2016. Do you still listen to AM radio?

          7. Of course.

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar

      A sick Clinton, and a flip-flopper weirdly wrong ‘rightist’ Trump … and the ‘alternates’ ?? hahahaha
      I have a feeling the turn-outs at the polls will be shooting at each other, and the kids will just stay away.
      Sad times for the electorate.

      1. You hope that Americans will act like Arabs do…. “I have a feeling the turn-outs at the polls will be shooting at each other, and the kids will just stay away.”

        Palestinian Arabs can get citizenship in the EU, US, not in Lebanon – isn’t that sick?

        Is it “the ‘New World Order’ and modern ‘job seeking’ … not just seeking something in a next state, but anywhere one can find something … ‘worldly citizens’, that everyone is, after all”

        Is it the new ‘worldly citizens’ system to deny people the citizenship of the country of their birth?

        You Arabs – sorry, Lebanese always blame the rest of the world when it turns ugly at you doorsteps.

        Just watch RT broudcasting and you get the point.

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar

          “RT broudcasting” sounds like Matrix..hahah..

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar

        President Hillary Clinton.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          lolol …

          1. Gotta love the “Be back later tonight – Bill”

        2. HAHAHA!

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Can hardly see where sucking up even more to Israel, by ‘courting’ Jewish settlers in the West Bank, could possibly โ€˜make America great againโ€™.

    1. Ask David Duke. He hates Jooz even more than your Resister pals here (if that’s even possible), and yet supports Trump. Go figure. ๐Ÿ™‚

    2. You start to sound like this “omega” signature, ” ‘courting’ Jewish settlers in the West Bank, “.

      The (nightmare) Donald Trump is courting Americans (American Jewish citizens), the same way that Erdogan courting Turkey’s German citizens to serve his political goals against Germany.

  3. Bush, Clinton, Obama Trump … same masters, same agenda, same ugly faces. Nothing but storefront posters for the ones who own and run the show (bankers, corporations and the military-industrial complex). It’s not coincidence that both the USA and Israel are the creations of the British. Jews and non-Jews are just proxies in the Anglo-American-Zionist scheme.

    1. The USA is NOT a creation of the British, but a creation of european immigration. Many of the first immigrants were the Christians in various forms. Israel was created centuries ago and after WW2 was offered the chance for independence as the modern state of Israel. A pity the Arabs didn’t accept their offer.

      1. Gullible fool parrots the mainstream history written by court historians like a champion.

        1. The Retard back to his moronic uncovering of “hidden truths”.

          1. The Anglo-American-Zionist troll back to diverting and diluting the topic.

            Do you get your paycheck in ยฃ, $ or โ‚ช?

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            mailed ๐Ÿ˜‰

          3. Wherever a moronic Resister releases a fart, our amiable resident ol’ fart appears to compliment it on the achievement. ๐Ÿ™‚

          4. I get paid in Arab Nazi scalps, retardissimo. Did you see “Inglourious Basterds”?
            By the way, is Putin’s debonair good looks the “topic”?

        2. Definitely better than your made up history.

          1. It certainly is not my history and I am not making anything up. Neither did I say that you made/make anything up. Everything you know is based on the Anglo-American-Zionist narrative and the books that their court-historians have written. Inadvertently, the lies and distortions you’ve been taught are you established truth. There is a difference in knowing a lie and not knowing the truth.

            If you wish to know the truth behind WW1, WW2, Nazism, Communism/Maoism, the private international banking system, think-tank organizations like Fabian, etc … you need to read books/articles written by unbiased historians. At your age, I doubt you will be interested in shaking the foundation of everything you believe in but should you fancy a look and to name a few:

            Nicolai Stakyrov’s “Roube Nationalization”
            http://lit.md/files/nstarikov/rouble_nationalization-the_way_to_russia's_freedom.pdf

            Manuel Sarkisyanz “England: Hitler’s Inspiration”
            http://manuelsarkisyanz.com

            James MacGregor’s “The Secret Origins of the First World War”
            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-History-Secret-Origins-First/dp/1780576307/

            Webster Tarpley
            http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/

            http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2246_british_and_maoism.html

            https://milnerfabianconspiracy.wordpress.com

          2. Oh my, unbiased historians. LOL. Another description is broke historians.

          3. Broke, I don’t know, maybe – the Anglo-American-Zionist thugs wouldn’t want the truth to spread.

            How are they biased? Historian, people – sure, suit yourself.

            Like I said: At your age, I doubt you will be interested in shaking the foundation of everything you believe in.

          4. I know blarney when I hear it.

          5. I know a monolithic idiot when I see one.

          6. Do you have a mirror by your keyboard?

          7. Is that what you look like? Wow, didn’t know Lebanese looked European.

          8. “Wow”? Whatever floats your boat.

          9. You posted the photo.

          10. And you awed.

          11. Looks likes a mechanic that worked on my car.

          12. You sure he just worked on your car? That might explain the “Wow”.

          13. He was in the garage, I was home. However, it was a muffler repair. I leave that to your imagination.

          14. You don’t have to justify yourself.

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Again, this Rudu childish games dialogues are boring. Mazbout?

          16. I seem to remember you engaging in some “dialogues” of the same ilk.

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar

            I died of boredom.

          18. You haven’t stopped, so I guess you have awakened.

          19. Hind Abyad Avatar

            I did stop a long time.. was curious to see your stupidities..block.

          20. I remember you going on and on with Cook2half.

          21. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Hey!

          22. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Now you know. Syrian boy, Syrian girl,

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Lebanese girls, kurdi girls

          24. Just yanking Omega’s chain. I’m very sure there are blond girls in the ME. Here’s Shirley Temper during one of her performances:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQObLBQ3X8

          25. Hind Abyad Avatar

            HollyHole Production propaganda and lies.

            Nabih Saleh village resisting settlers land grab thieves.
            Every week they demonstrate against ocupation.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83UmBEPHHOc

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Lies..Hoax? Not a real soldier?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZWCFHL9UIs

          27. Note that he links to a retarded Putinoid clown Nikolay Starikov. Really pathetic.

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Says the champion of made up history. Do you have a mirror by your keyboard?

          29. I’m flattered that you use my quips.

      2. I’m not an American, still I know that Americans have an independence day to celebrate the independence from the British.

        1. Can’t wait for the Zionist conspiracy about that independence.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (another non-answer…)

          2. “(another non-answer…)”

            I’m sure Rudy here owes you one, pal. ๐Ÿ™‚

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar

            (another non answer)

          4. The only answer you deserve is invariably the same: you are a moron.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar

            invariably irrelevant moron

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar

            as usual like The Y Krisst..

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Till Brits were driven out of Palestine….

          8. Wait until tomorrow, you will get more conspiracies than you can handle.

          9. Where are the usual suspects, by the way? I got up extra early this morning just for them. ๐Ÿ™‚

          10. They have a problem due to the New theory that explains collapse of Twin Towers.
            According to a theory advanced by a SINTEF materials scientist, a mixture of water from sprinkler systems and molten aluminium from melted aircraft hulls created explosions that led to the collapse of the Twin Towers in Manhattan..
            โ€œAluminium-water explosions are like dynamite explosions.
            They were probably powerful enough to blow out an entire section of each building”.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Needs more research all the time. Still doesn’t explain how melted aluminum and water got to building 7. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          12. Read again;
            .. aluminium from melted aircraft hulls created explosions that led to the collapse of the Twin Towers in Manhattan, not building 7.

          13. You must by joking, “Needs more research all the time.”.

            Do some research about your Canadian citizenship, it will be interesting.

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar

            You must by joking,

        2. Didn’t you point the finger at me for talking about “American matters” under your other Matrix username?

          Regardless, care to explain why the Brits were on both sides of the war?

          1. You mean the ones that were expelled from Britain because of their beliefs or the ones that just wanted some adventure. Then again there were many non Brits who also preferred the independence from Britain. It was a European Christian conspiracy,

          2. Where do you read me ask “which Brits”? My question was:

            care to explain why the Brits were on both sides of the war?

          3. If their were two sides, then you wish to know “which Brits”.

          4. Sure, twist it now.

          5. No twist, “Brits on both sides”. Which side is which, quite simple.

          6. One of the hasbara troll attribute is …

            Like to ask questions, not answer them.

          7. I did answer, you have wished to gone on some semantic journey.

          8. I asked a simple question: why was Britain on both side of the war? Where did you answer? Not only don’t you know the answer to the question but you now resort at lying (that you answered it). Keep it up.

          9. I did, obviously it was not the answered you wished.

          10. It was not an, or the, answer.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar

            “Lord Moyne the British secretary of state in Cairo declared on June 9, 1942, in the House of Lords that the Jews were not the descendants of the ancient Hebrews and that they had no “legitimate claim” on the Holy Land”.

            “On November 6, 1944, Lord Moyne was assassinated in Cairo by two members of the Stern Gang led by Yitzak Shamir, latter to become premier of รŽIsraelรข. (This assassination was not unique in the history of Zionism. In September 1948 Count Folke Bernadotte, appointed by the UN as mediator between the Zionist settlers in Palestine and the native Palestinians, was murdered on orders from the same Yitzhak Shamir. Count Bernadotte was the head of the Swedish Red Cross and had risked his life to save thousands of Jews from German concentration camps. This set a precedent and encouragement for the Zionist use of assassination as a convenient political instrument, which the US and European governments have in effect condoned since then.)”

            Nothing changed. Zionist Fascists only “history” is German Nazism… not the Bible.

          12. That’s nice. What am I supposed to do now?

          13. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Face and troll

          14. What is that supposed to mean?

          15. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Barfing is an option … unless such little things don’t bother you.

          16. Okay, perhaps you would like to explain what “face” means.

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Say you’re a Fascist Zionist.

          18. 5thDrawer Avatar

            He never heard of the United Empire Loyalists … Loyalty being a naughty word. ;-))
            (May have been grilled by the Inquisitor OhYeah too often…)

          19. Never did, I really did see a reason to. But I should be grateful they left.

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And Canuks were happy they decided to join us eventually. They are the nicest folks.

          21. I’m sure they were pleased as punch in the 1780’s.

          22. “Oh Yeah”! (literally)

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Two sides of Brits in War?

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar

            In what year..Henry XIII ?

          25. Hind Abyad Avatar

            In what year..Henry XIII ?

          26. Henry XIII was a good year, but not a great year.

          27. Hind Abyad Avatar

            The Brits, The Zionist..

        3. Hind Abyad Avatar

          Who cares about US independence day 300 years ago..nothing to do with Palestine.

        4. 5thDrawer Avatar

          From the French too perhaps? And the Spaniards, and Portuguese?
          An expansion concept from 13 ‘colonies’ to ‘self-determination’ over a whole land mass, and who the taxes would go to? (Not the British King – the ‘He’ of the script.)
          And in that whole set of decrees, no doubt debated greatly by the thinkers of the time, the right of Local Private Militias to bear arms to protect themselves (not relying on the policing by rules and soldiers of a country weeks away by sea), becomes 300 years later the most debated ‘right’ of an individual. (My gun,My horse, My woman. (mine, mine, mine))
          While the first paragraph is largely ignored, and “Laws of Nature”,”Nature’s God”, and “decent respect to the opinions of mankind” are thrown to the wayside.
          The “Facts of a candid World” submitted by the lines beginning in ‘He’ (the causes for the declaration being made), have become the actions against the “Our” concepts of a “People”, in that “Course of Human Events” which takes “away our Charters”.

          Perhaps it’s long past time that ‘Declaration’ should have been updated.

          1. Can’t you read, “I’m not an American”.
            Point your questions to some americans you know.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, you stuck the damn thing in here.

          3. You are easily offended by everything that have to do with americans, especially today…..

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It’s been a progression through life, actually … I think they are dis-assembling like Syrians – and other parts of the over-populated planet – as the humanoid animal searches a way out of it’s problems with a never-proven theory that ‘prayer’ will lead to salvation.

          5. The philosopher has spoken.

          6. “The Philosophy of Toilet Training”, by Professor 5th, Ph.D. (Volumes 1-5, 2016).

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You want a copy? It’s 2 volumes – kids & grandkids. Maybe you’ll have some one day …. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          8. Book paper is inappropriate for the toilet, too much ink…..

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Red text applied by a firm hand on the ass is, however, essential for some kids.
            I agree that the public-toilet-paper supplied in some countries (like Britain) just makes a smeared mess … yet understand where a lack of tree-leaves occurs, there may be economic considerations involved. Where there are none, and also no wash-stands, the use of one hand for the purpose could be a reason for some cultural drifts. :-)))

          10. Another ‘brilliant’ lecture without copy and paste from your computer ‘library’ …………

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar

            That’s right, tell us the books you read.

          12. You began to imitate celebrities in Ya Libnan community, further ‘brilliant’ lecture without copy and paste from your computer ‘library’……

          13. Sounds like it’s definitely worthy of inclusion in the new edition! ๐Ÿ™‚

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Oh please what’s the interest in Oh Yeahhh-Matrix pointless bigdures?

          15. The grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence were directed to King George III who thought the new land to the west was his, his and his.

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Since he’d sent his surveyors, and the French, etc., had done similar, he probably did. ๐Ÿ˜‰
            May have been a reason Brits thought they could ‘donate’ a small parcel of ‘Levant’ to somme others than those who lived there. hmmmm

          17. I don’t think the Brits or the French, Spaniard and Dutch were interested in the best maps.

          18. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And now that we have GPS (techies) they don’t even supply maps of any kind in gas-stations.
            We came full-circle.
            I was riding with a friend last week, and he had one of those gadgets … It was SO advanced, it told us to make a U-Turn and go back before we even got to the right spot.

          19. Another non answer.

          20. Global Positioning System dorks….

          21. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Another futility a la mama Matrix

      3. man-o-war Avatar

        Wait? Israel was created centuries ago? Not in 1948? I thought prior to 1948 it was called Palestine. Even the zionist leaders acknowledged that. Maybe you meant it was created decades ago.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well Man-O … as we know,, One Day Of God’s Time is a variable … ;-)))

        2. The Kingdom of Israel was created centuries ago, and that isn’t the same as the current state of Israel.

          Prior to 1948 there was no state called Palestine, just Syria Palaestina that was a Roman province between 135 and about 390 – Provincia Syria Palaestina.
          It was a result of the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea.
          And since the Roman was the one that rename this territories from Roman Syria and Roman Judaea, it staid so since no one else changed it since then.

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            Haha, what are you talking about? Prior to 1948 there was no state of Israel. Nation states didn’t even become a thing until when? 18th century or so. So, yeah there might not have been a “Palestinian state” prior to 1948, but there was a Palestine for centuries before that.

            How many centuries ago did the Kingdom of Israel cease to exist? It hasn’t been the Kingdom of Israel for at least 2000 years now.

          2. Where in my text you finde that prior to 1948 there was a state of Israel?

            As to “How many centuries ago did the Kingdom of Israel cease to exist?”, don’t ask me I didn’t care to learn about this region.

            This region become frist actual, since it started leaving traces and impact on us in the EU.
            Correct there was a Provincia Syria Palaestina for centuries before that.

            Are you aware that the romans even changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina?

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            Yes, I’m aware of that, and Constantinople is now Istanbul.

            I guess you didn’t say that, I don’t really even know what point you were trying to make. Just that you seemed to point out historical facts in a way that made it seem you were trying to discredit the existence of Palestine.

            I was replying initially to Rudy once again talking out of his ass: ” Israel was created centuries ago and after WW2 was offered the chance for independence as the modern state of Israel”

            Would you like to comment on this statement?

          4. “It hasn’t been the Kingdom of Israel for at least 2000 years now.”

            You answered it yourself.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Jews are actually not even the modern descendents of the Israel of the Biblical รŽOld Testamentรข:

            According to both the early-20th-Century popular historian H.G.Wells and the Hungarian-Jewish intellectual and author Arthur Koestler, amongst numerous others, the people known today as Jews are primarily the descendents of a Turkish tribe known as the Khazars. The Khazars have no historical connection to Palestine. They converted to รŽJudaismรข between 620 and 740AD, and have no genetic connection to biblical Israel, and hence to the narratives of the Bible and the รŽHoly Landรข. Koestler actually devoted an entire book called The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) to the fact that the Jews of eastern European origin, who are known as the Ashkenazi Jews and who make up about 95% of the Jewish population of today, are of Khazar origin. In other words – virtually all of the Jews of the modern world have no Hebrew ancestry, and no ancient connection with Palestine.

          6. Monolithic idiots don’t care about the truth. They prefer the lies, fabrications, hoaxes, deceits, etc. They think they will be spared by their masters when time comes.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar

            No use discussing more. . wainak?

          8. That’s nice, Israel exists as a state as of 1948.

          9. So did Matrix aka Oh Yeah

            http://i64.tinypic.com/2uy1wtg.png

            Your point?

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar

            @Matrix.. Point is- Source please?

          11. Lots of Kingdoms created over 2000 years ago, so many of which have been lost to history. Israel has had a rebirth in 1948. And like MOW stated the Kingdom did exist.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Where’s your source i asked, who came first Roman or Greek?
            Aristotle’s 4th century BC, Meteor Ologica, Israel is never mentioned.
            “(..) we note that the civilisations from which our own culture is derived include those of Egypt, Crete, Babylonia, Phoenicia, Chaldaea, Palestine and Greece;

            “Between the climate of Egypt and Babylonia on the one hand and Palestine, Greece and the Mediterranean littoral on the other have always been operative in kind, if not in the same degree. Short of an ice-age, a thunderstorm in Upper Egypt has never been anything but a miracle and never will be, and a famine in Palestine has never been very far away from the limits of the probable”.

          13. I wasn’t trying to make a point – only pointing out to Rudy that Matrix wrote it also and before Man-o-War.

            The point is what you just wrote: “Aristotle Greek philosopher, 4th century BC ‘Meteor Ologica’ in 4 volumes, Israel is never mentioned.”

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar

            hhh…c’est rรฉparรฉ. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          15. Since you commented on this statement to Rudy1947, I commented a correction;
            The Kingdom of Israel was created centuries ago, and that isn’t the same as the current state of Israel. that was Intended to you both , and I’m sure that Rudy 1947 taking note of my remark.

          16. man-o-war Avatar

            Important to also note that the Kingdom of Israel hasn’t existed for thousands of years.

          17. Are you dreaming of the Drittes Reich?

          18. man-o-war Avatar

            typical

          19. The the Drittes Reich never existed thousand years, so what do you mean with “typical”?

          20. man-o-war Avatar

            You’re cute when you play dumb.

          21. Do you like my braid?

          22. Hind Abyad Avatar

            He doesn’t play..

          23. “and that isn’t the same as the current state of Israel.”

            There you go.

          24. Stalingrad is Volgograd, Leningrad is St. Petersburg, I’m aware of that Constantinople is now Istanbul, but what it have to do with Provincia Syria Palaestina or Aelia Capitolina?

          25. man-o-war Avatar

            Everything and nothing

          26. typical

          27. man-o-war Avatar

            very

          28. Very typical you.
            Sweet dreams baby.

          29. man-o-war Avatar

            Last

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Who came first Roman or Greek, Matrix?

            Aristotle Greek philosopher, 4th century BC ‘Meteor Ologica’ in 4 volumes, Israel is never mentioned.

            “(..) we note that the civilisations from which our own culture is derived include those of Egypt, Crete, Babylonia, Phoenicia, Chaldaea, Palestine and Greece;

            Between the climate of Egypt and Babylonia on the one hand, and Palestine, Greece and the Mediterranean littoral on the other have always been operative in kind, if not in the same degree. Short of an ice-age, a thunderstorm in Upper Egypt has never been anything but a miracle and never will be, and a famine in Palestine has never been very far away from the limits of the probable”.

          31. Your quote was by Sir Napier Shaw from the Manual of Meteorology, Chapter 1 entitled Meteorology in European Culture. Don’t think Shaw ever met Aristotle in the 1920’s CE.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Aristole – the earliest Darwin of record – would not be quoted ver-batim by a later Shaw.
            If some truths have become ‘self-evident’, there would be only a need to refine a volume into a single thought, to advance into new factual understandings of the bases of theoretical sciences. Slogging through Aristotle isn’t entirely necessary to the layman unless he wants to know the progression. Artistole read Aesop – and sort of dumped on the wrong conclusions too – but at least recognized the value of fables as part of the advancing process in questioning ‘why’.

          33. “would not be quoted verbatim……”

            Tell that to Hind.

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Uneducated

          35. Your scholarly pursuits didn’t help with your reading skills.

          36. Hind Abyad Avatar

            “Aristotle
            Shaw, Napier, Sir, 1854-1945; Austin, Elaine.”..And?

            Western civilisation exist based on translations of Greek by the Arabs in 8th century when Europe was feudal, then Dark Ages, Middle Ages. Not till the Renaissance Europe started to read and study Arab medicine, astronomy, mathematics and the Greek.

            In original Aristotle Meteorologic in greek, he talks not only of Palestine, also other parts of the earth.

            “Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them. The following facts all of them support our theory that it is some earthy stuff in the water which makes it salt.
            In Chaonia there is a spring of brackish water that flows into a neighbouring river which is sweet but contains no fish”

          37. Which book do you quote from?

          38. Hind Abyad Avatar

            1- Greek Sources in Arabic and Islamic Philosophy
            Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
            2 Below
            Aristotle. Shaw, Napier, Sir, 1854-1945; Austin, Elaine
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d708854860661f0286332f64507149485bf1a4adbf1535150b5035ced6628e9f.jpg

          39. Well glory be. One of your quotes can be confirmed. There was a salty lake in Palestine according to Aristotle. I guess that’s the Dead Sea.

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar

            You’re such a clown, am cramped…
            I indicated the origin here’s a Bigger in context and the link, have a nice troll if you can stomach reading…”I guess it’s the Dead Sea” Haha!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/522a6374a503bef109e96dc208705026d8080f6d8d85c03c44355a09931298f1.jpg

          41. How do you think I confirmed your latest story.

            “Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said.”

            It seems a rather long journey to tell me the Dead Sea was fabled to exist in the 4th century BCE.

          42. Aristotle or not Aristotle, this was painted much earlier than the 4th century B.C.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrOQiknOE9w

          43. Hind Abyad Avatar

            ..so what’s your point, the Stone Age at the end of the Ice Age?

          44. Hind Abyad Avatar

            The term Dead Sea is modern, no such name in 400 BC, nor in ancient testament, it was Lake not Sea.

          45. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Because it is a lake. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          46. How informative. Even Aristotle wasn’t sure if it even existed. Perhaps there should be legislation to change the name of the Caspian Sea to the Caspian Lake.

          47. Is it a twelve point question?

          48. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Roman Latin Language, innocent Matrixi.

      4. Niemals Avatar

        “A pity the Arabs didn’t accept their offer.”

        It will be interesting to see how Arab leaders Wednesdays proclamation that they would renew a historic reconciliation offer with Israel in return for its withdrawal from land it has occupied since the 1967 war will be accepted?
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4905abec5756560b0c14d8bcdb4c5f08ad2cceeb563e942bfe35bcda1426a5b3.jpg
        Donald Trump had rattled Arab leaders not so long time ago when he said that he was open to a one-state solution….

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