Russian Flight 7K9268 mystery: Accident or terrorism?

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The debris from a Russian airliner is seen at its crash site at the Hassana area in Arish city, north Egypt, November 1, 2015. REUTERS/Mohamed Abd El Ghany
The debris from a Russian airliner is seen at its crash site at the Hassana area in Arish city, north Egypt, November 1, 2015. REUTERS/Mohamed Abd El Ghany
BY: Brendan Nicholson, Defense editor
Much too soon after the crash of the Russian Metrojet charter flight over the Sinai Peninsula came the denials.

Egyptian security officials quickly rejected claims that the airliner might have been brought down by a terrorist missile or bomb. And airline officials stated confidently that the crash was not caused by any mechanical fault in the Airbus A321, or by any error by the crew.

But then came the decision of British Prime Minister David Cameron to ban all flights out of the popular Egyptian tourist resort of Sharm el-Sheikh even though that meant stranding up to 20,000 British tourists there.

That was followed by British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond’s apology to all those stranded in Egypt for what he acknowledged was an “immense disruption and inconvenience”.

However, Hammond said, the British government would not allow aircraft to leave until it was sure they could fly home safely.

Then came briefings from US intelligence sources to the American media that the evidence gathered so far indicated a bomb, probably placed by the Islamic State terror group or one of its affiliates, exploded aboard flight 9268 soon after it began its flight from Sharm el-Sheikh to St Petersburg on October 31.

All 224 passengers and crew were killed.

Whether it was by accident or design, the destruction of a Russian airliner weeks after Moscow launched a substantial military intervention in Syria could immeasurable complicate an already tangled situation in what has become the most volatile and dangerous part of the planet.

A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin said it would not be appropriate to speculate on whether the airliner was destroyed in revenge for his country’s involvement in Syria.

Islamic State claimed responsibility for the crash, saying the aircraft was destroyed in retaliation for Russia’s intervention to support the Shi’ite-linked regime in Syria, where President Bashar al-Assad’s regime is fighting the Sunni Muslim militants of Islamic State among other rebel groups in Syria’s multi-sided war, now in its fifth year.

Clearly unsure how best to capitalise on the crash, Islamic State affiliate Sinai Province issued a statement saying: “We will detail how it came down at the time of our choosing.”

But Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi, who was in London on an official visit planned well before the disaster, rejected the group’s claims as “false propaganda”.

“When there is propaganda that it crashed because of Daesh, this is one way to damage the stability and security of Egypt and the image of Egypt,” Sisi said, using the Arabic acronym for Islamic State. “Believe me, the situation in Sinai, especially in this limited area, is under our full control.”

The Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh is as popular with Russians as it is with Britons, and the airliner’s crash could prove disastrous for Egypt’s economy.

In London, Hammond said he recognised the immense impact the British ban on flights would have on Egypt but the safety and security of British nationals had to come above all other considerations. Flights would remain suspended until airport security was improved, he said.

British officials said there was a “significant possibility” the Russian crash was caused by an “explosive device”.

US media reports quoted American officials as saying an early view that the Islamic State terror group’s affiliate in the Sinai placed a bomb on the aircraft was based in part on intercepted communications.

The British government instructed British airlines to stop flights leaving Sharm el-Sheikh while security arrangements there were assessed by a team of specialists rushed to the resort.

When the Egyptian government objected strenuously and declared the British decision to be premature, Hammond said he recognised the concerns expressed by his Egyptian counterpart “but with respect to him he hasn’t seen all the information we have. While we regard the Egyptians as very important partners, we cannot ignore that information.”

It is likely that information included an image caught by a US surveillance satellite that showed a flash or “bloom” as the aircraft lost contact with controllers on the ground and began its rapid descent.

That could indicate an explosion aboard the aircraft.

As one of the world’s most dangerous flashpoints, the Middle East is heavily monitored by the intelligence-gathering satellites of the major powers. An area as sensitive as the Sinai is under constant satellite surveillance.

When Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine by Russian troops or local separatists trained by the Russians, horrified American technicians saw the whole thing happen as they monitored a feed from a surveillance satellite.

They saw the Russian-designed BUK missile launched and then explode just ahead of the Malaysian airliner, shredding its cockpit and forward fuselage. The BUK missile used on that occasion easily had the range to hit an aircraft flying above 30,000 feet and the launch vehicle was big and distinctive enough to be clearly visible to the satellite’s cameras.

A much smaller shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile would not have the range to hit an airliner flying over 30,000ft.

A bomb is another matter. It would not need to be big, as even a small breach in the passenger compartment or in the luggage hold could cause a catastrophic depressurisation of the aircraft in an instant.

It is not clear why the aircraft’s tail fin reportedly was found 5km from the rest of the wreckage. That again could indicate some sort of catastrophic mechanical or structural failure that might have nothing to do with terrorism.

Egyptian medical staff said a significant number of those killed appeared to have suffered extensive burns.

It is possible a fire or fuel explosion could have been caused by a mechanical issue such as an engine explosion.

Sisi said the cause of the crash might not be known for months. There should be no speculation until then, he said.

Russian officials have noted that so far no traces of explosive have been found on bodies recovered from the crash site, although previous experience has demonstrated that a very large passenger jet can be torn to pieces by a very small bomb.

The device that brought down Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in December 1988 was packed into a “ghetto blaster” portable radio-tape recorder common at the time, about 40cm long. It contained as little as 350g of explosive, believed to be Semtex. The ghetto-blaster bomb had been packed into a suitcase; it blew a hole about 50cm wide in the fuselage, which instantly caused explosive decompression. Within seconds the aircraft disintegrated.

The pieces of wreckage reassembled by investigators revealed the blast left burn marks and residue around the hole, which in turn indicated what explosive was used.

While crash investigators, backed by hundreds of members of the Egyptian security forces, search the ancient desert of the Sinai for more pieces of wreckage and for the bodies of those still missing, it remains to be seen how Russia will react if it does emerge that Islamic State or its allies caused the crash.

If the destruction of Flight 9268 turns out to be the result of a terrorist attack carried out in retaliation for Russian actions in Syria, and if it was intended to discourage the Russians, then the perpetrators may have miscalculated.

In 1986, the Jerusalem Post reported on an episode it said followed the kidnapping in Lebanon of four Soviet diplomats by the Islamist group Hezbollah in September 1985.

When Moscow did not comply with the group’s demands, one of the diplomats, Arkady Katkov, was found murdered in a field in Beirut.

The Post reported the KGB kidnapped a relative of a leader of the group it believed was holding the diplomats.

The relative was castrated and shot in the head; his organs were sent to the Hezbollah leader with a warning that he would lose other relatives in a similar fashion if the three remaining diplomats were not immediately released.

They were quickly freed, the newspaper said.

In the wake of the British government’s warnings, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has reissued its travel advice warning Australians to “reconsider your need to travel” to Egypt because of ongoing political tension and the threat of terrorist attack and kidnapping.

That includes the Sharm el-Sheikh resort, DFAT says, warning “terrorist attacks could occur at anytime, anywhere in Egypt, including in tourist areas”.

Since mid-year, there has been a series of attacks on Egyptian ­forces and tourists in Egypt. DFAT warns that tourists and tourist infrastructure in South Sinai remain an attractive target for extremists.

In recent days, Moscow and the US have agreed to hold joint exercises to reduce the chances of Russian strike aircraft clashing over Syria or Iraq with jets from the US-led coalition, which includes RAAF Hornet and Super Hornet fighter-bombers.

While the US and its allies have focused their attacks on Islamic State targets, the Russians have been hitting anyone fighting against the Assad regime. An angry reaction from a retributive Russia could make the skies over Syria an even more dangerous place.

Plane bombings remain the biggest concern for aviation security experts, even as threats such as those from anti-aircraft missiles have heightened. A British aviation security official says there is evidence terrorists are continuing to try to devise ways to design bombs that can’t be detected by existing screening mechanism. That includes using non-metallic components that would be harder to spot.

While there is still no evidence the passenger airplane was rigged with an explosive before takeoff, the revelation that it broke apart before hitting the ground has ­fuelled such speculation, says Mokhtar Awad, an analyst at a Washington think tank, the Centre for American Progress, who specialises in Egyptian militant movements.

Wednesday’s claim of responsibility noted that the jet crashed on the first anniversary of Sinai Province, then known as Ansar Beit Al Maqdis, pledging allegiance to Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

So far the Sinai Province group has confined its attacks to vehicle-borne bombs, short-range shoulder-fired rockets and ground assaults on Egyptian military installations.

In 2013 and 2014, while still operating as Ansar Beit Al Maqdis, the group claimed credit for two massive bombings at police headquarters in the Nile Delta city of Mansoura and in the capital, Cairo. Both bombings circumvented multiple security checkpoints at the heavily guarded facilities and Egyptian prosecutors have investigated police officers on suspicion of assisting the group in the attacks.

“If you can recruit officers and get intelligence to penetrate Cairo and Mansoura security directorates,” Awad says, “you can probably penetrate Sharm el-Sheikh airport.”

THE AUSTRALIAN

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236 responses to “Russian Flight 7K9268 mystery: Accident or terrorism?”

  1. Michaelinlondon1234 Avatar
    Michaelinlondon1234

    Just the UK and USA dancing on the dead again….Complete fantasy by the author.

    1. So he left you out. He should be congratulated

    2. Simon Gunson Avatar
      Simon Gunson

      I congratulate you on your clear thinking Michael. Just like with MH370 various Governments & mainstream media are trying to talk up a speculative theory as if it were fact.

      1. Another religious bigot hiding behind a fake name.
        Why do most Iranian whores use both a first and last name?
        AND why do you Iranian whores pretend to be Christian?
        Are you lot that ashamed of who you truly are?
        Don’t worry, you can whip yourself for your mistakes, next ashoura

        1. Simon Gunson Avatar
          Simon Gunson

          I was born in Pwheli, North Wales you dickhead

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ahhh … Good to have a Welcher .. I mean Welshman .. on board. :-))

          2. Yes hind

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            That explains it all…

          4. Simon Gunson Avatar
            Simon Gunson

            Perfect example of your irrational thinking. One moment you were accusing me of being a radical “Iranian whore” now you can’t get your head around me being white ayran stock like your bigoted self. By the way how is the Ayran Nation doing these days?
            No doubt your membership of the KKK will be published in the next few days so we can all have a good laugh?

            All the down and out boozers & no hopers in KKK who cling to white supremacy to kid themselves that they are relevant to society.

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I’m black and catholic
            moron

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            hahahahaha … everyone ‘speculates’ … Market-Heads.

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Again Religion, the O old boring lieu communs – see Majousi talks

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            wow … you even got bored with trying to type ‘communists’ …. We need a Movie Break.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I didn’t type ‘communists°..’lieu communs’ is in French.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ahh .. I see. Did I tell you I have a friend here who once worked on a commune in Israel?
            Once. I assume it was similar to Russian ones. Once was enough.

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nothing to do with my post……………………………………………………..!

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok. So ………… how about the Movie?

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            STOP

      2. April Gallagher Avatar
        April Gallagher

        Probably a real bulkhead blew out.. Took the tail with it…Did that plane make frequent trips to the desert regions? Abnormal wear is going to be a factor in this crash…sand gets into everything..:(

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          lolololololol
          If something has sand all over it it’s your brain

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I consider, Mekenseh, that it might have been ‘sand in the shorts’ that fudged up the ‘Underwear Bomber’ … slowed electrical flow, or something. He was more used to having a clear drop-zone for sand under the white tent. 😉

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I love how they burry themselves trying to find any stupid excuse to NOT recognize the truth

          3. Simon Gunson Avatar
            Simon Gunson

            When you have the facts then we can consider what the truth is… Until then your opinion does not constitute the truth.

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            and yours is sooooooooooo far of it

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          … everything ? .. 😉

        3. Simon Gunson Avatar
          Simon Gunson

          April, this is section 29 of the airframe which contains the aft pressure bulkhead. The bulkhead, although crushed by impact with the ground, is otherwise intact. That would not be the case if there were a bomb inside the cabin

          1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            But the Black Box according to UK and French recorded sounds of Explosion. Now Egypt is tightening securities more around airports. Putin ordered planes not to fly to Egypt and many other countries. It is very easy to put a bomb on the plane in countries like Egypt since some Muslim brotherhood are sympathizers of ISIS and they killed Sadat what makes you think they can’t put a bomb on plane..if the crew is cleaning while nobody is watching.. the theory of having a bomb on planes in countries like Egypt can happen especially with a good bribe of money.

          2. April Gallagher Avatar
            April Gallagher

            You’re right, I’m seeing photos of the wreckage showing evidence of shrapnel damage.. I might have to concede that I might be wrong in my initial assessment of the cause of the crash…

      3. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        Speculative?
        The Russian thugs in Ukraine shot and downed a passenger plane with a Russian anti-aircraft missile. You call this speculative????
        I won’t wish anyone you love an ill fate like these passengers going on vacation, work…
        I just wish you were on one of these plans.
        Maybe you would have witnessed first hand the conspiracies…

        1. “I just wish you were on one of these plans.”

          Wow, wishing death on him coz you disagree with his opinion. How “American” of you.

        2. Simon Gunson Avatar
          Simon Gunson

          In case you can’t read English properly, or suffer dyslexia, the topic is Kolyavia flight 7K9268.

          It is pure speculation that a bomb was planted on 7K9268.

          If the line between reality and whatever other narratives keep rambling on inside your mind are so blurred that you are here to discuss MH17 then I respectfully suggest you seek psychiatric help.

          1. Steve Osborne Avatar
            Steve Osborne

            I believe there is a specific diagnosis for people unable to accept differences in views. They typically see anybody with a different opinion as an official propaganda agent.

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            There is a difference between views and insults to people’s mind. When master-troll above calls the downing of the Malaysian airplane in Ukraine by pro-Russian thugs armed with anti-aircraft weapons provided by Moscow speculation, allow me to give him the finger, call him an official propaganda agent and going even further invite him to go witness first hand the murderous actions of whoever he is defending.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah .. an Osborne … must live in Utah near the ‘Great Salt’ split lake. ;-))

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Oh I read English, you probably don’t seem to read or understand your own English.
            When you say “Just like MH370” media is speculative what does it exactly mean? that it’s speculation that MH370 was shot down by Russian armed thugs?
            The invitation is still open, go witness first hand the doings of the thugs you’re protecting.

  2. Simon Gunson Avatar
    Simon Gunson

    To all the bomb theorists please answer me one question?
    Where is the rudder and why is it not attached to the tail, or indeed found at all?

    1. I shudder to ask hind legs about its udder even though it is a rudder

      1. Simon Gunson Avatar
        Simon Gunson

        So clearly you understand nothing about aviation and nothing about the significance of both rudder & horizontal stabilser being missing from the debris field. Instead of offering one scintilla of reasoned intelligent thought, is this the best you can argue?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          I think part of it is that pic in the top that says ‘No Step Here’.
          And they said the tail did some air-surfing for a few miles in the opposite direction … perhaps someone leaped out of the blown top, grabbed the rudder, and tried to do the same thing … like snowboarders do. (of course, a paraglide chute helps…)

          1. LOLLLLLL

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (bows) Thank You. 😉

          3. I would’ve said you are welcome but you HAD to edit AFTER I LOL’d without pointing out you edited.
            And if you can’t see how that is dishonest then what can I say.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Rien.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You like ‘Rien’..blabla..

          6. Lol the hypocritical whore is interfering even tho it barks about …. Interfering.
            Seriously how many times were you dropped (not were you dropped ) on that ugly bead of yours in Tehran??

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Service Announcement:
            At this point Ladies and Gentlemen, ‘we’ paused for a ‘snack-break’. You can all leave your cars and stretch those legs … but there is time to get popcorn and coke at the snack counter …. please keep children under surveillance.
            The Movie resumes in 30 minutes …

          8. Qu’est-ce que tu as acheté?” — “Rien.

          9. Disgusting dishonesty. No wonder you and daft mare are so alike

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Doctor Jekyll Mister Hyde..

          11. Obviously you are talking about your parents. If you need counselling, yalibnan is not the place. Now run along back home to the dumpster. You are truly ugly from the inside out.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Talking about you

          13. Sweetie if I was your parent, I would’ve had the decency to abort you.
            Very simple you dumb bigoted clown.

          14. no kidding Sherlock.

            “Talking to you” is obviously “ugly” braying at me.
            Sweetie, you are my entertainment

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ugly is talking to you.

          16. LOLLLL
            As you bray at me. Haha so you admit you are one ugly slut.

            Note: to all the chauvinistic pigs, there is nothing wrong with being a slut per se but to be a ugly slut is different.

          17. And sweetie, I only use you when I’m bored. Like when I’m waiting for food or cock.

          18. cook2half Avatar

            Dinner last night :))

          19. Looks yummy. But did you seriously eat all that on your own?

          20. cook2half Avatar

            No I couldn’t finish more than half, took the rest home.

            Last night was fun. Me and 2 friends went to Harrods, then restaurant, and then drinks in Mayfair. And tonight I’m going to a restaurant in South Kensington and after that clubbing :))

          21. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Again you take pictures of you dinners?

          22. “Hind Abyad O
            22 minutes ago
            Ugly is talking to you.”

            Just in case you edit

          23. And your hypocrisy knows no limits. You brayed to 5th that you would not bray at him anymore, and that was at least three days ago, but yet you haven’t stopped braying at him.
            Do you just bray for the sake of braying!!

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You braille tOO much

          25. Wow it is back to capitalising the letter o. OoOH hOw original and creative. You would bore even the dead. No originality, no sense of humour and certainly no humanity. Bray along daft one.

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            A votre plaisir, Mme ….

          27. Ah, cela me fait grand plaisir

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Big come back to the past after 2 days Off

          29. I’m bored with your banalities. I will continue bashing you when I have more time. On that you can bet on.

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Bye for nOw

            PS. Copying my post. Free speech it is…O Overused expressions..O clichés … Obanal” “banalities’?

          31. And I’m usually against animal cruelty, but in your case I will make an exception.

          32. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That too ..you already said it..

          33. And I will say it again! This is not Tehran!

            And I’m usually against animal cruelty, but in your case I will make an exception.

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I was patient and did my good deed.. now i have box messages full of you.
            Oh..and have a nice evening

          35. Sweetie, that’s the only time your “box” gets filled.

            Note: just in case box doesn’t mean the same elsewhere, I will explain.
            Box = pussy

          36. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            How brilliant.
            Magnus Opus!

          37. Why thank you

          38. Btw is this you “activisting”?

          39. you ARE a patient… Of the mental asylum.

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Magnus Opus.

          41. Sweetie, you need a Magnus cock. That will shut you up. And mabz can’t provide that

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Magnus Opera

          43. Magnus cock

          44. Sweetie, as usual, YOU started the comeback.
            Like you have been told many a time, don’t attack and you won’t be attacked. It is a very simple concept that even daft mares should understand it.

          45. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I never attacked you..Zwedie

          46. Lol yes you did, when you brayed I am Isis and majoos is my “guru”.
            But as usual, you deny and lie.

          47. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            After you attacked me, are you alzheimer now?

            Fake O
            “O – Hind Abyad • 3 days ago

            are we friends now?
            I always wanted us to be friends like these fish. Only you like Assad so much and that drives me insane. and I’m so jealous that you love Nasrallah too, and Ahmadinejad
            xoxo”.
            Same discourse as Majous (and you) …
            https://yalibnan.com/2015/11/03/russia-changing-stance-on-backing-for-assad/

          48. Wtf are you doing posting comments by a fake?
            Honestly you are absolutely insane.

          49. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad
          50. Lol you provide a link but no quotes. That is very unlike you. What are you hiding or hinding!!

          51. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Lazy hypocrite…all quote are there Alzheimer.

          52. “Hind Abyad O
            2 days ago
            Yes he knows you, used to be your guru..gone after i said it.”

            Sweetie, I wasn’t even here two days ago. So how could I possibly attack you first? There is the proof of your arrack.
            Secondly, you yourself brayed that the fake you just quoted, knew me well. So your point about the same discourse is just deception on your part. You have always disgusted me, even when I forced myself to be civil with you.

          53. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            # Now 3 days ago..zweedie
            https://yalibnan.com/2015/11/03

          54. Listen, go fuck your self coz I’m bored with fucking you…up.

            One thing I have NEVER seen you do is admit guilt. And I don’t expect that to change.

          55. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You and fake O were there 3 days ago, arak come back

            “O – Omega • 3 days ago

            I moved to Mosul a couple of years ago from Bab el tebaneh, Tripoli
            and it’s soooooooooo boring living here
            It’s the good thing to do, you know, because the Caliph united us all, but it’s sooooooooo boring and… well… my bedroom is also boring so if you pass by the area, write me a message, we can meet, and I’ll see your smile live 🙂

            man-o-war – O • 3 days ago
            haha, this sounds like a fake O. I have been absent for some time, things could change I guess.

            O – Omega • 3 days ago
            vou pawley fwonsai
            mwa emmeh fwonsai bocou

            O – O • 3 days ago
            fake!

            Hind Abyad – O • 3 days ago
            Vous parlez très bien le Français faker.
            https://yalibnan.com/2015/11/03/russia-changing-stance-on-backing-for-assad/

          56. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hi Majoosi.

          57. You are truly a dumb slag. Up to this point, ALL comments on this article, under my Nik are made by me!
            Born again daft mare

          58. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Not that one..

          59. I said ALL, you dumb slag!

          60. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ya..but not the one i answered Hi Majoosi.. Now can i go?
            You’re forcing yourself on me for hours without End.

          61. Again, EVERY comment made on this article under my Nik is by me!!
            Are you that fucking thick!!

          62. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ya..but not the one i answered Hi Majoosi.. Now can i go?
            You’re forcing yourself on me for hours without End.

          63. Again, EVERY comment made on this article under my Nik is by me!!
            Are you that fucking thick!!

            You are truly thick

          64. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            دمك ثقيل

          65. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Dammek Taeel

          66. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Are you stomping your feet?

          67. Only if your ugly head is under my feet

          68. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You truly have nothing to say.. Zzz

          69. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You gave a great spectacle and i helped you.

          70. Sweetie, you ARE a spectacle.

          71. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Only one spectacle? People wear glasses om both eyes.

          72. Omfg you are so lame

          73. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            :))..
            Why Do People say “Glasses” instead of “Spectacles …
            optometrist.com.au/people-glasses-spectacles/
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f5bcacd0dc419bb841d0920548dc8f10fd68cf73aff3c2757d74d6b5564c059b.jpg

          74. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ask Americans … 😉
            But these days, mostly they are ‘plasticles’ ….

          75. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (Guess O finished her lunch-break … )

          76. And even more licking.
            Seriously, you are a sad lonely geriatric

          77. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You’d love if I really got into it … :-)))))

          78. YUK!
            I truly could think of nothing worse than watching two geriatrics having sex

          79. Was it difficult to type “edited”?

          80. Who gives a fuck!!!

          81. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            About your spectacles?

          82. About your mom
            And sweetie, unlike you I am not four eyes

          83. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nobody ‘is’ 4 eyes.. don’t make such a spectacle of your ignorance

          84. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I have a monocle … But here’s a tune …
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR23gkgcfD8

          85. You may have a “monocle” but you certainly don’t have a wife.
            You want to take sides then be prepared to be abused and insulted

          86. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Same Old barks.

          87. Lol so brayed the hypocrite

          88. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Sides?? Is there ANY ‘side’ to this??

          89. Btw this is a perfect example of you never admitting you are wrong. Continue living in your fantasy world

          90. And sweetie, no one is forcing them self on anyone on a BLOG!
            Idiot!

          91. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You said yalibanana BLOG was one great family.. you’re an orphan?

          92. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Finally..

          93. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Again, Hi Majoosi

          94. What a disgusting thick bitch you are.
            Go ahead and believe what you want, as you always do.
            I know for a fact that I made that comment. So all you are doing is confirming, yet again, your delusional nature. Bravo

          95. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Page glitch..it was for Ow

          96. Lying little whore. Your deception is unheard of, I’ve honesty never come across anything as deceptive as you.
            And if 5th falls for your lies then that is his problem.

            Btw sweetie, if it was a “page glitch”, you would’ve edited. Everyone knows how much you love editing.

          97. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Can’t delete when it’s wrong adress oo

          98. You lying whore. You can “edit” as in delete like you have many a time. Lying slag. Bye for nOw

          99. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You can’t edit so what are talking about..when you post to the wrong person you can edit to say what.. it say’s “cancel” meaning “post”.
            Idiot

          100. Remember THOSE brayings of yours sweetie, AFTER you insulted cook, me and others?? You lying deceptive slag

          101. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No ‘…’ I posted

            Hind Abyad – 5thDrawer • 25 minutes ago
            Page glitch..it was for Ow
            •Edit•Reply•Share ›

            Have to be patient with day care.

          102. Omfg! Are you a born again retard!!

          103. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            T’as du temps a perdre..

          104. rien à perdre

          105. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I can see that

          106. Sweetie, that is coz you are rien

          107. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You are something..

          108. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (damn)

          109. Lick lick

          110. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You said ‘ going to be 10..’ it was 18 today..

          111. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Amazingly … after the rain … but too windy for the roof

          112. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You ain’t seen nothing yet..better fix it

          113. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oui Mme …. (sigh) … tomorrow … + 2 days … peutetre

          114. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ..peut-être.

          115. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Last year I put a patch just in time – the day before the first big snow. Cooler ….
            Now I try to be ‘ahead’ … hehe

          116. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Up on the roof …
            youtube.com/watch?v=puM1k-S86nE#sthash.xPTJVu92.dpuf

          117. then you better show him. Don’t be a tease.

          118. Lick lick

          119. And talking about the weather is so deep

          120. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You talk deep throat.

          121. Magnus opus

        2. Sweetie, there are EXPERTS on the ground with hard facts. A bigoted baboon trying to tell others what happened to the airline, from the safety of its bedroom, is hilarious.
          I will leave the investigation to the experts.
          Now if you can pove, you are an expert in that field AND have access to the crash site and evidence, then I will gladly listen to your conspiracy theories. Until then, all you are is a bigoted looney

        3. “Reasoned intelligent thought”?
          Like this?
          “The section which the tail fin was attached to is missing the rudder. It also collapsed backwards which happened in flight, not by contact with the ground”??

          Lol how do you know it collapsed backwards inflight and not by hitting the ground??

          Please I eagerly await your “Reasoned intelligent thought

        4. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          The only way.. she can only bark..

          1. Lol looking for another partner?
            Didn’t Mabz satisfy you!!!

        5. nagy_michael2 Avatar
          nagy_michael2

          Don’t mind O she bitches at everybody..

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        I this place your day Care Centre or what..stop talking about me, you look fool.

        1. Sweetie, this not your beloved Iran. People have free speech where you ran to. Namely, the west.
          If you don’t like the idea of free speech, you are FREE to take a hike back to mother Iran.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Free speech it is.

          2. Daft mare still braying like the mad cow disease it is. Tilhasee teezee inti wa jahash ya b neekeek

          3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Back to your best.

          4. Sweetie, at my worst I’m still better than you at your best.
            When you said Australia has enough trash from Lebanon, you were obviously talking about yourself.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “Daft mare still braying like the mad cow disease it is. Tilhasee teezee inti wa jahash ya b neekeek”
            Indecent O Magnus Opus

          6. Lol you found a partner in your bigotry and homophobia.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You find everybody as partner (forcing yourself on them) go talk to Majoos… he will appear soon he’s studying.

          8. Yes I like match making homophobes and bigots. Don’t want you to be lonely in your hate.

          9. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            3 days ago ..https://yalibnan.com/2015/11/03
            O coward 🙂

          10. The coward is your mom, for not having the courage to abort you.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Evade evade..Bye:)

          12. Sweetie, the only one hinding is you. Thick bitch

          13. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            It’s an honor to match hind, wish I could say the same about you.

          14. Sweetie, I’m proud to not have a homophobe and religious bigot as my partner.
            So THANK YOU for confirming I’m unlike you. Mwah

          15. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I don’t think anyone would want to be your partner, try old MacDonald”s farm there should be something suitable.

          16. MaImequer0 Avatar
            MaImequer0

            Puff puff puff daft mare.

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Wow Mal … is she making you run the beaches too, now? ;-))

          18. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Name:DanyNohra”,”screen_name”:”JerseyPumpCEO”,”location”:””,”url”:”http://JERSEYPUMP.COM”,”description”:”CEO OF JERSEY PUMP PROTEIN ENERGY DRINK”,”protected”:false,”followers_count”:88,”friends_count”:193,”listed_count”:3,”created_at”:”Tue Aug 02 22:11:30+0000

          19. Hey mal, didn’t see you here. Long time again. 🙂

          20. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            If I was referring to myself why did you get cut…………?

          21. Lol you assume but nothing could be further from the truth. Now run along and spew more trash about “gay only” anything.
            And don’t think I’ve forgotten about your hatred for Jews and Muslims.
            Mate, honestly if your church teaches you to hate like that then you and your church are the scum of the earth.

          22. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Was Mohammed a happy chap?

          23. In fact, I would go so far as to say fuck your priest if he is teaching to hate like that.

          24. And not one Lebanese Christian (that has identified them self as a Leb Christian) on yalibnan is decent.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (I guess naked at the keyboard is indecent .. hmmm .. nawww)

          26. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Them self or themselves ya donkey ……

          27. Them self you uneducated bigot and homophobe
            And next time don’t expect me to educate you
            That’s at least twice in just as many days.

          28. But you are certainly not overused. Cobwebs?

          29. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Free speech? You sure?

          30. Yes I’m sure. Just like other “free” options.
            Example, you are free to live how you want.
            But free anything still has rules. Meaning you can’t commit murder.
            So you can try to argue you don’t have free speech coz you want to insult and denigrate gays and lesbians but it won’t work.
            And of course, not everyone is going to be happy with a law.

    2. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      so the plane took off without the rudder?
      Do you happen to be walking on the street and suddenly realize that someone stole your shoes, socks and feet?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Well, Mek … if the plane took off pointed in the right direction it would be ok … until somebody suggested a course correction to save fuel. ;-))

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          yek yek yek

      2. “so the plane took off without the rudder?”

        That’s NOT what he said. Stop putting words into his mouth. Just proves you are an idiot.

    3. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      To all rudder vanishing in thin air theorists, now that even the Russians recognize it was a bomb will you man up and recognize that your boss should have spent your troll salaries on airports and plane security?

    4. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      Still looking for that rudder?
      Or did you resign from the Russian trolls army to the benefit of aviation security?

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar

    LOL … there’s comedy in that article … “a team of specialists rushed to the resort” with enough sweetmeats for the stranded tourists.
    I PROPOSE that all tourist flights in future be flown at an altitude around 5000 ft. That will make it unnecessary to pressurize anything, and small bombs will only leave the 50cm holes. AND that will also ensure a much more exciting vacation for tourists, who will be able to watch earth-objects flitting by at 500mph., and give them the sense that they are actually travelling somewhere quickly.

    1. “there’s comedy in that article”

      So daft mare is the article?

  4. April Gallagher Avatar
    April Gallagher

    This was an accident. The rear pressure bulkhead blew out, and took out most or all the tail section…Don’t believe it was a bomb…

    1. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      It’s not a question of believing, the investigation so far shows signs of a sudden shattering of the plane without the plane’s boxes showing any technical or mechanical problems with the plane itself.
      Which strengthens the theory of a planted bomb.
      There is an independent investigation going, it’s not a matter of beliefs but one of science.

      1. Simon Gunson Avatar
        Simon Gunson

        Oh what a genius. No explosive residue, but still you think 1+1=3?

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          did you go see there were no explosive residues?
          or you read it on Russia Today?

  5. MekensehParty Avatar
    MekensehParty

    Oh God, now we have to read and listen to all the Russian bloggers army sent to all blogs to convince us that it wasn’t a bomb.
    Instead of blowing money and time trolling around on the net, start upping the security of your airplanes and airports where these airplanes land and take off. Oh you don’t have money for such an expensive service?
    You should have thought about this before going to war with Isis little Putin.
    bunch of idiots

    1. “start upping the security of your airplanes and airports where these airplanes land and take off.”

      What an idiotic thing to bark

    2. Simon Gunson Avatar
      Simon Gunson

      How about first of all you provide some proof it was a bomb?

      No explosive residue found on the bodies. The right engine detached from the aircraft in flight before the final plunge, the rudder is missing and the horizontal elevator also missing, but surprise, surprise, the aft bulkhead is intact.

      Were there a bomb in the baggage hold, it would not have torn off the rudder but left the aft pressure bulkhead intact.

      1. Steve Osborne Avatar
        Steve Osborne

        People dying because of poor aircraft maintenance would be much more embarrassing for Russians than an airport security breach. MekensehParty doesn’t make any sense. I guess I’m now going to be accused of being a Russian blogger.

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Would it be? Really?
          So planes crashing in the twin towers is less embarrassing than planes falling for lack of maintenance?
          What a bright light you must be

          1. Steve Osborne Avatar
            Steve Osborne

            Has anyone been reprimanded for the security breech that led to the 911 attacks? I understand that English is not your language and that you didn’t understand what I meant by “embarrassing” but what I also understand, judging by the language you use with other people and your fake name, is that you have a very low opinion of yourself.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Although, Steve, many of us consider our own ‘security’ when blogging in ‘terror-land-sites’. Being a ‘Facebook’ person never quite appealed to many of us – no matter how advertised the concept is. We can appreciate your openness, however, even if we think it’s a little crazy. But Snowden ‘came out’ too, I recall.

          3. Steve Osborne Avatar
            Steve Osborne

            You make a good point about personal security; and I want to clarify things by specifying that my comment was directed at people talking big on the internet, saying things they wouldn’t say to anyone’s face.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Have you ever been on a ‘Game-Site’ ? :-)))
            I mean one where you build cities, armies, fight others for ‘control’ or points, steal resources, etc ..

          5. Steve Osborne Avatar
            Steve Osborne

            I don’t know what that is. Online poker?

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It’s a MUCh more inventive way of removing money from your pocket than simple gambling … if you allow it … but the name you give yourself should never be real one.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The addendum is: One can put forward a ‘valid’ opinion without being so ‘out’ of it that everyone else thinks he should be attacked because all Osbournes come from a really strange religious sect in Utah. :-)))

          8. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            What’s embarrassing is you trying to dig yourself out of a hole you digged for yourself. You think no one has been reprimanded after 9/11? Security chiefs got bonuses right? How ridiculous is that.
            Please spare me the bs about my name, how native my English is and of course your psychological analysis
            Please Shakespeare do tell us how a plane falling from mechanical problems is more embarrassing than a security breach?

      2. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        Unlike you I’m reading what reliable sources within the investigation are saying and based on that I say what I say which is: it’s more likely than unlikely that it was a bomb. You, without seeing anything but a few pictures are claiming that you cracked the whole thing and are vehemently denying it was an explosion unlike all the experts on the ground who now gathered enough evidence to say it was a non-technical/mechanical explosion. All this devils advocating proves how unrealistic you’ve become in the defense of your political stances. You absolutely don’t want it to be a bomb because it will prove that your bully “hero” Putin went to war without making his math homework and didn’t apply the simple formula of not throwing stones when your house is made of glass.
        When the US went to war against al-Qaeda, billions were spent on security, and aviation security in particular. Without these billions your planes are unsafe, and an attack is very likely as was discovered in sharm el sheikh. So for the safety of Russians and the safety of all who travel on Russia inbound or outbound planes, be nice and you and your buddy trolls present your resignation so that the funds spent on your trolling goes to securing your airplanes and airports.

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Just a secondary note about ‘Translating’. Under the top picture it says:
    “seen at its crash site at the Hassana area in Arish city” …. And to ‘The West’ the site is undoubtably an area … however, unless it’s all out of the heat and underground, the western mind has trouble seeing it also as a city.

  7. 5thDrawer Avatar

    I go to the other browser & into the War-Game … pop back to watch the volume … on occasion … amazing.

  8. cook2half Avatar

    Ban planes. No planes = no crashes.

    1. Ban daft mares

  9. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    Lol yalibnan every time i sort by the newest it still shows whoever commented first. really please fix the sort and this is not the first i have tried to do it.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar

      Where are you?

    2. Hind Abyad Avatar

      Why you disappeared??

  10. On the case of the A321 crash in Sinai arrested two employees of the airport of Sharm el-Sheikh
    Moscow. November 17. INTERFAX.RU – A321 aircraft crashed due to an improvised explosive device, said the director of the Federal Security Service Alexander Bortnikov http://www.interfax.ru/russia/479714

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