Top Democrat on House Foreign Affairs panel calls Iran nuclear deal “deeply troubling “

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Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) described a nuclear agreement reached with Iran as "deeply troubling." July 14, 2015
Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) described a nuclear agreement reached with Iran as “deeply troubling.” July 14, 2015

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.),  the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and a leading Iran critic, described a nuclear agreement reached with Iran as “deeply troubling.”

Engel said Iran is permitting “unprecedented access” to suspected nuclear sites, including military facilities — a key demand by lawmakers.

However, he said, an arms embargo on Iran will be lifted within five years and sanctions on its ballistic missiles will be lifted within eight years.

“Throughout negotiations, these issues were off the table, so seeing them included in sanctions relief is deeply troubling,” Engel said.

Last week, Pentagon leaders said at a Senate hearing that they also opposed lifting an arms embargo on Iran, as well as lifting pressure on Iran’s ballistic missile program.

“We want them to continue to be isolated as a military and limited in terms of the kind of equipment and material they’re able to [have],” Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said in response to a question about whether he supported lifting the arms embargo.

“Under no circumstances should we relieve pressure on Iran relative to ballistic missile capabilities and arms trafficking,” added Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey.

Engel, who has been a strident critic of Iran and co-author of Iran sanctions legislation, could play a leading role in whether House Democrats buck the administration and reject a deal.

“I look forward to reviewing the agreement in more detail and will seek extensive briefings from the administration to examine its provisions,” he said.

However, he also made comments to suggest the Iran deal would stick.

“When sanctions are eased, then Congress must use every tool at our disposal to prevent Iran from plowing its newfound wealth into violence and turmoil,” he said.

Congress has 60 days to review the deal and either pass a resolution of approval or disapproval, or do nothing. If a resolution of disapproval is passed, the administration could veto the resolution, and Congress would need two-thirds of both chambers to override it.

Engel said if the deal goes through, Congress “must be ready” if Iran fails to comply with the agreement to pass sanctions legislation.

“In that case, we can’t only rely on snapback sanctions provided for in the agreement,” he said. “A good starting point would be the Nuclear [Iran Prevention Act], which Chairman [Ed] Royce [R-Calif.] and I passed in the last Congress,” he said.

“This legislation would target Iran’s remaining oil exports, prevent access to its overseas reserves and blacklist certain strategic sectors of the Iranian economy,” he said, noting that the House passed it by 400-20 in July 2013.

Engel also offered faint encouragement for the agreement.

“As Congress reviews this deal, we will have to consider what the alternatives are. We will not be choosing between this deal and a perfect deal,” he said.

He said a military strike would have “severe consequences” for U.S. allies and interests in the region but also called for a “credible threat” to remain on the table.

“But no matter what the agreement says, we should be clear: Our issues with Iran are far from resolved,” he said.

“The Iranian regime remains intent on stoking instability and sectarian violence in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. It also continues to support terrorist organizations that threaten Israel,” he said.

“Iran’s negative impact in the region fuels my concern about what Iran’s leaders will do if sanctions are lifted. That will allow resources to flow freely into Iran’s coffers,” he said.

“Iran has transferred millions to Gaza in recent months, which will help Hamas rebuild the tunnels it uses to kidnap, kill and terrorize Israelis. We need to make sure that a nuclear deal doesn’t make these problems worse,” he said.

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200 responses to “Top Democrat on House Foreign Affairs panel calls Iran nuclear deal “deeply troubling “”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Well, that must be the end of today’s conflicting ‘news stories’ about the conflicted minds who have yet to see exactly what was agreed upon. There will be a slew tomorrow no doubt. Hopefully there’s a bit of Pluto as well … although it will take only 16 months to ‘download’ all the information from that satellite, and the info for this subject has been longer already, and promises to be longer.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    (psst … did she go to work yet? ;-))

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Afghan Ways … and Wars … Interesting hindsight and maybe foresight article …
    http://www.juancole.com/2015/07/afghanistan-counter-insurgency.html

    Obama may have these ‘results’ in mind more than most ////

  4. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    Says the zionist stooge…
    You are an American representative not an Israeli citizen… act like it. Bunch of traitors.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      It’s actually pretty impressive how Jewish people stick together. In my opinion it’s why Israel has been so successful. No matter where Jewish people live or positions of power they hold their loyalty to Israel never wavers. They always put Israeli interest ahead of their home countries interest.
      In America, we have many Jewish Americans who hold dual citizenship and serve in the IDF, but not the US military. One major US university I was visiting I witnessed the Jewish student organization holding a IDF day. Students or visitors could go through mock IDF training events for fun. It reminded me of when US military recruiters walk around University campuses. The whole purpose was to recruit American Jews for IDF service.

      1. cook2half Avatar
        cook2half

        Israel should topple the Assad regime, we all know they can do this in a matter of hours. Maybe then Iran will spend the money on its own people than on terrorist regimes like itself.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          They should, then they could have IS/Nusra/Al qaieda as their neighbors. What % of their yearly budget supports these “terrorist regimes”? You brought it up, I’m assuming you know the facts behind this.

          1. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Israel supports the Free Syrian Army, and should (but isn’t?) be supporting the YPG. These are the future rulers of Syria. Secular, democratic, justice, equality.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            That IS the hope.

          3. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Don’t hope for peace in Yalibnan anytime soon tho lol

          4. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “BEIRUT: Thirteen civilians, among them seven children, were killed in aerial attacks by Syria’s government Wednesday on the northern province of Aleppo”

          5. stop defending Assad the terrorist

          6. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Delusional religious bigot having trouble with reading comprehension again. You’re a moron!

          7. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Good morning 🙂

          8. But it’s night in Haifa

          9. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yup but man-o is in Australia

          10. Man of warts was performing taqqiya. It is in Washington

          11. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I had a wart on my finger until recently, thought it was just dry skin all these months but got rid of it now. Its a horrible, disgusting thing ugh lol I’ve got a mental image when you say man of warts XD

          12. Lol that was very funny. I mean it was intelligently funny. Now you know why man of warts HATES its nickname.
            Watch daft mare pretend to be upset about what you said

          13. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol. I went and read about warts, they grow in mainly three places: hands, feet, and you know where (unless there’s a code protecting that area).

          14. Cook do you like scribbling on amateur “art”? 😉

          15. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Like Mal’s ‘editing’ of that painting? nah, hate art generally.

          16. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Yeah, it really upsets me because your mum gave them to me. If I knew she was such a whore I would have never stuck it in her. If I was you I would go get checked. After all, you take after your mum.

          17. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I’m sure you get the same feeling when you look in the mirror.

          18. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I bet you wash your kos everyday.

          19. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            No, not everyday. When I do wash it I use you, you douche!

          20. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol

          21. 🙂

          22. You know who is the biggest moron? Your momma! Coz it didn’t abort you when it had a chance.
            Sweetie stop your taqqiya, you defend terrorists and terrorist supporters/enablers all the time.

          23. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Well well…your mom is so fat she jumped up and never came down.

          24. Wow unoriginal fat momma jokes. Geez you shites are shite

          25. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Haha, your dumbass can’t tell I’m making fun at your lame childish comebacks. You’re a moron and a child. Did getting “raped” stunt your mental development?

          26. Well well…your mom is so fat she jumped up and never came down.

          27. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Your mum is so stupid she got locked up in a grocer and starved to death.

          28. Maybe the grocer was fasting

          29. Fake o. Hind the taqqiya slag

          30. Or man of warts
            Impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery

          31. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You wish. Moron!

          32. Sweetie I don’t need anything from you. You are not only a moron but a retard too. I wouldn’t put it past you to impersonate others. I’ve seen how low you will stoop to win

          33. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Win what? Are you really that dumb?

          34. No I’m not as dumb as you or your mom

          35. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I know, you’re much much dumber.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Then we should have never put the Japanese US citizens in concentration camps during WWII.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          THAT question was debated for many years after … some compensation came from the land-grabs here when the children grew up. Rightly so, I think. But the Japanese were Canadian in their minds, mostly, and understood the Imperialist Moves by Japanese Generals were wrong. And that their Emperor was a weak and duped figure at the top of a Feudal society dominated by War-Lords. So they suffered the shame.
          Some of their men joined the Military as volunteers here.
          Looking back at the thoughts expressed by many at the time, and for years after too, to some extent those camps protected them from a General Society which didn’t understand Japan, and didn’t even know a Japanese, but suddenly had intense hatred for them because of Pearl Harbour. And the propaganda machines were fierce. It was WAR. Everyone suffers – as they do now – because of it.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Two ‘Sides’ – with radically different ideologies – who haven’t even talked to each other for 30 years except for uttering direct threats – are only going to keep making war, endlessly, unless some very REAL diplomatic efforts occur.
            Stifling the War-Lords can help.

        2. We?
          So now you are an American from ww2?

    2. cook2half Avatar
      cook2half

      Not supporting the Iranian terrorist filth regime makes you a traitor but supporting an ally does? lol only a Hezbushaitan stooge.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        a self hating Iranian is also a traitor, don’t you think? The point is a Jew MUST choose where his loyalty is… because if as a US citizen if we were to go to war with Israel then is he going to side with the U.S.?

        1. cook2half Avatar
          cook2half

          I’m not going to support a vile terrorist regime just because I had family there before 1979.

        2. Same question you can ask the druze in lebanon or israel. Kurds in turky as well.
          If you look at it at this light it might look less as a jewish thing only..those stinking ttrator jews…

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hohohoho … Indeed … that’s why Cookie is coming to Canada … no ‘conscription’. 😉
            Although, we do have B’nai Brithers making noise at times. They sell ‘gently-worn’ clothes of the rich every year to a herd of grasping women for a ‘good price’ … ostensibly for ‘charity’ … and Cookie can avoid them too, because no man puts himself into that fray.
            We leave town on the day. Fishing is a viable option. :-))))

        3. What a dumb question. So if Canada goes to war with Lebanon is daft mare going to side with Canada? After all middle Easter Christians are not Western Christians according to it.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            kOs

    3. I think you are missing his point. When the US negotiates, it has to keep in mind that we have allies. The US scrutinized the North Korea deals through the lens of Japan and South Korea (or was supposed to). Same thing when it deals with the Russians – NATO allies are involved and updated. This is how democratic countries function – oversight for the best interests of the US and its allies. Israel, like it or not, is an ally.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        and if it become an enemy? Obama already threatened that if Israeli warplane cross towards Iran he will order the navy to shoot them down.

        1. cook2half Avatar
          cook2half

          Of course he did. ‘Treat your friends as enemies, and your enemies as friends’ – that pretty much sums up the Obama administration.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            and that is exactly my point… A US senator must NOT have two loyalties.

          2. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I have both British and Canadian passports, tell me who should I be loyal to ;))

          3. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Iran! 😛

          4. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            If I join the British army, am I being a traitor to Canada? OMG if I eat at Tim Hortons am I anti-Britain?

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Tiimmys accepts everyone, even Brits. ;-)))

          6. You’ve been out for a long time. Time to come in

          7. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Don’t be a dork cookie… A soldier volunteered to fight… A representative has been elected BY US citizens to represent the US so if he sides with Israel against his OWN president then he is no longer representing his US constituents.
            Ah the Irony…
            Obama must be a traitor to the US now since he did the right thing by signing a deal with Iran.
            Since when a foreign apartheid illegal country dictates the foreign policy of the greatest nation on Earth?
            Sad very sad… But the tides are turning and Israel’s treachery is already felt across this nation and people are realizing what needs to be done…
            Dump Israel for the good of the US.

          8. Dump you for the good of humanity

          9. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            DumbO That’s you LOL

          10. Lol I call daft mare dumbo 12 hours ago and then you parrot me. Honestly you are the lamest one here

          11. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yes you are right Israel has no right to dictate America’s policy regarding North Korea, or whether to sign that treaty with Cuba, or Obama’s reaction to the Ukraine crisis. But when the Iranian nuclear issue and its funding of terrorist groups in Lebanon and Syria and Gaza has EVERYTHING to do with Israel, then Netanyahu has every right to convince any sane person in the U.S. government about the consequences of this “deal” (giving billions to the Ayatoilets in return for then NOT suspending their nuclear activities is more of a gift than a deal). The Israelis and Egyptians and Saudis and many other allies will never forget the damage Obama has already caused and will cause to that region.

            “Treat your friends as enemies and your enemies as friends”.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (Wow … a couple weeks on an Israeli beach and he’s brainwashed …;-))

          13. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I don’t like the beach

          14. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            If you eat Tim, then your gay.

          15. That would’ve been funny if he had said eat Tim but he said eat AT Tim.
            Oh fuck it, it is funny

          16. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            And if I puff coffee at Tim’s, that’s being a daft mare.

          17. LOLLLLLLL
            was that from the archives???? 😛

          18. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            That’s from my memory, but worth finding that page again :PP

          19. Are you a stalker? 😛

          20. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Nah, the number of times Ive gone through old articles is 0. Although I’m VERY good generally at finding information, e.g. yesterday I found out who she is (ill edit this part of the comment in a bit, just cause I don’t feel like putting up with her crap).

          21. “Nah, the number of times Ive gone through old articles is 0”

            Lol was that an 0 joke 😛

          22. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yesterday out of nowhere she suddenly called me a zionist snake, and many other nice comments, e.g. “What a Rat!”… “You proved how vile you are finally! Reap what you sow.”

            I don’t see why anyone would defend her, I certainly will not. Those comments show that you can’t simply agree to disagree. In fact its a crime against humanity to say something different than how she perceives reality.

          23. Cook you are young hung and full of cum. Oh wait this is the wrong site 😛
            Seriously though, you are too naive if you didn’t notice its deceptive nasty shite ways

          24. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Wrong site for sure! This isn’t the bbc site you self flagellate to every evening while reliving your “rape” fantasy.

          25. Sweetie self flagellation is the domain of you shite rapists and pedophiles

          26. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            What’s a “shite rapists”?

          27. A Shiite that rapes shite

          28. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Haha, so warm and gooey!

          29. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I don’t see why she even gave you the time of day. She’s a raving anti-zionist and you’re a raving zionist. The way you’ve talked about Palestinians is disgusting. I can’t believe the religious bigot barabie is being friendly with you, but then again hate can unite sometimes.

          30. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            And yet I didn’t even mention Palestinians or Israel in that thread, nor did I even interfere in her convos with O. I just said that in all fairness she too comes here and talks crap about sunnis and Jews – furthermore, what’s especially bad about it is that she never ever admits she’s wrong about anything even when presented with all the evidence in the world that she might be mistaken (a lot of posters have said this about Hind, I don’t even know why you got all surprised when I said that). That’s when she started the insults.

            And for the last time, I am not “uniting” with anyone. Why is everything so black and white here? oooh he or she is stalking me, oh theyre taking sides, mossad this mossad that blah blah blah.

          31. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            “a lot of posters have said this about Hind, I don’t even know why you got all surprised when I said that” surprised? I already acknowledged that she’s stubborn and opinionated. She has her facts and you have yours. She believes she can find evidence that backs her thinking, you and others may not buy it, but she does. I’ve read in the past where she’s admitted she was wrong or a source she posted was fake. It doesn’t happen often, but it has happened.

            Just last week barabie was giving her shit for befriending you and so was I. She kept on ignoring the facts and supporting you for having your views. Maybe the problem is you and not her.

            “oooh he or she is stalking me” malpuke has followed her around for years now. From site to site. I think that could be considered online stalking. Then he randomly and casually drops her area code in his comments to freak her out. If I was a woman living alone and some creepy online stalker pretended to know where I lived I would be concerned as well.

          32. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “She kept on ignoring the facts and supporting you” she supports me now? yeah right, hence the hateful comments and name-calling from yesterday. I thought that we can agree to disagree, can be peaceful despite deferring political views. But she showed her true colors yesterday when she suddenly called me names. She even said I’m another Malmaquer, even though 1) I didn’t call her names or personally insult her, and 2) didn’t interfere or support O’s comments to her. The problem isn’t really me, the problem is that she can’t tolerate other peoples views and is dishonest.

            By the way, Hind herself posted her area code on Al Jazeera couple years ago, hence why Mal knows it and other details she’s posted. It freaks her out because other posters now know where she lives, and NOT because she has no idea where he got it from.

          33. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I agree with Man-O about the ‘naive’ bit when it comes to computers and the WWW. (net)
            It is NOT the same as a private emailing, for sure.
            One can he likes Scotch, and become an instant lush in here. :-)))))

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            What’s this?
            “I remember 5th mentioning that she shouldn’t have given certain details online, but I don’t know if he meant that specifically.”

            Make specific please???

          35. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            “she supports me now?” , never said she supports you now.

            Did she tell you she posted her area code on Al Jazeera? I don’t know how that came about and don’t really care. It’s creepy that he keeps dropping it in his comments. Not that it matters that he knows she lives in Montreal. It’s a large city , I would be more concerned if he knew my street address. She still has a right to be a little concerned with his persistent stalking.

          36. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            She supports me when I shut up and don’t dare say anything that contradicts her perception of reality.

            I think she said it, but I don’t remember so could be mistaken. I remember 5th mentioning that she shouldn’t have given certain details online, but I don’t know if he meant that specifically. I don’t think you can legally call it stalking, because no matter what this is a public commenting section and not her Facebook or a text message. I doubt he even knows her name. BUT I never support his vile disgusting comments, and even told him off the other time.

          37. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            When I questioned her on why she still interacts with you in a friendly way she said that you guys avoid topics of contention. Do you remember? It wasn’t that long ago.

            Maybe it’s not legally stalking, but by the definition of the word it is stalking. “harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention” barabie keeps it going when he disappears for a while.

          38. Hind and Cook have gone at it for years like 2 cats fighting but at worst the name calling was limited “flying nun” “lesbian nun” ” crooksnake” and for the most part it was funny and entertaining .

            Clearly both had opposing views on zionism which both have a right to. what Cook fails to see is the world of pain she was put in maliciously with daily stalking and whore calling in every comment, comments about her mother disowning her and female circumcision at the the age of 7, using a painting she drew with her own hands as her stalkers Avatar, exploiting her paranoia with comments relating to her stalker coming to montreal “tic toc”,.

            Hind has been pursued and bullied NOT for a day, NOT for a month, but for YEARS. yet to her credit Hind showed tremendous trust and faith in a friendship with Cook beyond the fact that they have opposing views , Cooks sin in all this is that he makes light of the association and finding “FUNNY” the one who inflicted much pain and anguish to her even though he is here enough to have read the vile things that have been said, you could say that it is Hinds fault that she made the assumption that Cook would have stood in a different place or at least distant himself as a sign of disapproval of things that have been said about her but I truly hope he takes responsibility and reckon that he added to her world of hurt,

            cooks lack of understanding and sensitivity to EXACTLY why hind lashed out is something I hope he reconsiders, I dont believe in writing off or throwing people away when they make a mistake or say the wrong thing until they have a chance to fully understand the outcome they are responsible for.

            Mano, your observation and comments put you in even higher place of respect and soundness in my book. we all make mistakes and say things we later may regret but there is a big differernce between saying the wrong thing or saying something with the sole intention of inflicting and causing harm.

          39. like I said to 5th, you find words (which you and man of warts use against me, like “rape”) disgusting but you have absolutely no problem with a slag defending a terrorist that tortures children to death and drops barrel bond on them and uses chemical weapons on civilians indiscriminately. YOU are a terrorist supporter and enabler and apologist. The most disgusting vile hypocrite I’ve ever come across. Hopefully your children never suffer at the hands of those daft mare supports but if they do, I will still speak out against their oppressors. Unlike you. You are the lowest kind of life form

          40. You are 200% wrong!! if you had shown that you can be trusted that you dont turn on people as you always do and are actually able to listen and not accuse, judge and condemn solely on the fact that I REFUSE to attack Hind even though I dont share ANY of her political views and posts, you would have a chance of a private conversation that would surprise you as far as who I am but you threw me away way too quickly, you are so unable to believe anything but what you want to believe. I totally accept your hate and every name you wish to call me and your ill wishes as it is the ONLY thing you will do regarless of who I really am or what you judge me to be, I don’t want any of your love or approval. you are far too gone and if find a U turn for YOUR own good I hope you take it.

          41. Sweetie I gave you more than one chance but you showed you true colors over and over. I refuse to befriend somebody who doesn’t call out a terrorist defender and enabler.
            Let me ask you this in all sincerity and honesty.
            If your kids were tortured to death by a scumbag and hind was defending that scumbag. Would you be so friendly and understanding to hind?
            Be honest.

          42. Ok first THANK YOU for asking, it is all i hoped that you would do, you are not a psychic and you have a right to ask, All the players including Hizbollah Assad, isis, Idf along with all the warlords of the civil war inflict harm, mame, murder and torture in the process of protecting a cause they believe in, I dont support affeliate myself with any of these groups, I was fortunate enough to leave lebanon at the age of 13 and live in canada probably the biggest melting pot of people from all nationality and faiths and made a commitment to overcome prejudeces of my own childhood, I dont believe you can rely on any world leader or sect or political party to help you become someone able to love people for who they are instead of what sect they belong to. I HAD TO TO THAT ON MY OWN, I know you dont believe it and it is ok, minus my joking and childish sense of humor an even things I have said to you that I regret and not comfortable with I make every effort to include in my circle people from all backgrounds to change myslef first and after that I share it with others, if HInd or anyone here was resposnsible for atrocities I would be glad to run the other way as I am totally against violence as a solution, many here believe that one dictator or military group is better than the other, they simply dont know better and almost every conversation I Hind is about a Human solution that is inclusive of ALL humans and not that of a sect or nationality, when I reach out to her she honors me and my intentions by listening to my views and my experience even though she does not like most of what I have to say to her or how harsh I have been in criticizing her privately, you asked and I honored your question and I hope I answered it but neither you or her at times have enough self control to count from 1 to 10 before you reply, we all have reasons to our point of views but if we truly want to resolve the current state we must ask more questions as you just did and listen more. I hope you honor my reply with understanding instead of a counter attack as usual 🙂

          43. I appreciate your reply but you still didn’t answer the question. Is it a yes or no?

            Btw we have very similar opinions and views. And I regret I needed to say certain things to you.

          44. As someone who has contempt for Assad and his mistreatment of lebanese citizens under occupation and as someone who has contempt for Hezbollah and Aoun for having a relationship with Assad and not using it for ever asking about the many lebanese missing in prisons in syrian jails, also I have contempt and strong feelings about million$$$$ spent on an investigation in the Harriri assassination and many others,and almost 10 years later no contribution whatsoever by Asssad or Hezbollah in bringing anyone to justice, having said all the above I still feel that Assads interest is surviving his dictatorship and Hezbollahs interest is to survive along with its allies Iran and Syria but I feel they are less of a threat than that of Isis, I truly believe many like Hind see them as a lesser evil because no one seems to be able to get rid off all of them and institute a democracy you and I get to enjoy in western society.

            I have always believed that the strong should help the weak and love is risky business, when I do it with injured or abandoned animals I am not always successful but I cling to hope that I am able to make some difference, with people it is always more difficult due to 3 factors, Money, sex and religion, no one questions my motives when I spend most of my day feeding and caring for animals and I can tell you that I have reasons to believe many if not all of us have been subject to abuse in one extent to one another, Hind is no different and it is my desire and my obligation to do everything I can to help and protect her as a firend and a sister.

            I too regret things I said to you in anger, I should file a law suit against you for damages for making me this way 🙂 , ok I apologize for every time I hurt you! I will delete and cease fire.

          45. I apologise too.
            But geo you still haven’t answered my original question.
            And torturing children to cling to power is no excuse.
            Assad, hezbo, iran, aoun AND Isis are just as bad. You can not justify one terrorist due to another. And there have been numerous articles where it has been stated Isis was a creation of the same character hind defends. How can you hate the creation more than the creator?

          46. Absolutely no excuse never never ever!! all I am saying is that in appearance even to many here that previously hated assad and hezbollah they are having to note that isis ambition make it acceptable that pre syria war conditions were better in stability and life quality than the present hell it is for citizens now, this is what I think Hind and others feel , I could be wrong. I can only speak for my personal beliefs which have nothing to do with politics or nationality,for now I feel disqualified and not in good standing to go any further because of some of the comments I have made.

          47. If your kids were tortured to death by a scumbag and hind was defending that scumbag. Would you be so friendly and understanding to hind?

            That was the question and you still didn’t answer it. All you did was evade the question and then try to whitewash hind”s support of a terrorist. You can not defend one terrorist coz another terrorist you don’t like is terrorising. And I will keep asking the original question until you give me a direct answer. I have a feeling I know your answer AND I know why you are avoiding answering it directly. I asked you to be honest

          48. I left you with a lot to read and meditate on, please read again more than once. I am satisfied that she is not a supporter of torture and barrel bombing but even if she was a supporter for a violent group or another it is my obligation is to reach out to her to change her views by means of making her feel safe to discuss deep and personal feelings, she gave her trust because I never disrespect her or accuse her of anything or subjected her to any name calling.I just asked and listened as I have done the same with Cook when he speaks badly of Palestinians.

            A while back Mek asked me how I could sleep at night when the faces of 22 people are looking at me with blood on my hands, he was referring to Rafic Harriris murder, all this because I had friendly exchanges with a shia that I respected for the respect he gave in his exchanges, that is ALL.

            Needless to say it was hurt and insulted that automatically he jugged me to be a Hizbollah supporter and someone who rejoiced at the heinous assassinations. to judge is to know and it is a matter of fairness and respect to ask where people stand as you did today, there are depths and reasons for feelings that simply can not be put on the table in one or two comments, also if the answer is spiritual based it makes it extremely personal that one may not want to discuss without further trust and a place more sterile than a sectarian news chat room. perhaps I said more than I intended, I hope it is helpful.

          49. i appreciate your attempt to reason with people but after all this you still didn’t answer the question I originally poised to you. Why are you evading answering a simple question?

          50. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Who the Hell said i support barrel bombing sectarian Wahhabi Christian hater?
            I refuse the destruction of Syria for the beautiful Desert fat siting Rats. eyes ..and i fear for Lebanon being swallowed by your Daesh, your Allahuakbarr Dream.

          51. Stop your lies slag! You have defended Assad, Syria and hezbo MANY a time. Anyone honest on here will confirm that

          52. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I will confirm it myself. YES i prefer Assad at ISIS!!!

            “Jacky Hugi is the Arab affairs analyst of Israeli army radio Galie-Zahal, a columnist for the business newspaper Globes and the former Arab Affairs correspondent for Maariv. He is the author of Arabian Nights.Com (2011), a nonfiction introduction for Israeli readers to contemporary social, cultural and political discourse in the Arab world, and winner of the 2007 media award of the London Next Century Foundation and the 2008 B’nai B’rith award for journalism of Jewish communities in the Arab world. He is based in Tel Aviv and holds a master’s degree in Middle Eastern and African history from Tel Aviv University.”

            http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/07/israel-syria-war-bashar-al-assad-support-rebels-al-qaeda-is.html#ixzz3g4xCqjVt

          53. Can someone plz explain what it brayed

          54. “I will confirm it myself. YES i prefer Assad at ISIS!!!”

            You deceptive slag. That’s not what I was talking about when I said you defend a terrorist and you know it. You are the most deceptive of anyone on here.

          55. There it goes being deceptive and editing to suit the answer geo gave. THIS deception you practice is part of the reason I find you repugnant.

          56. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Your dumbass doesn’t realize that my “words” to you are in a direct response to your religious bigotry. You and I had our moments early on, you claim I started it. I call bullshit on that. You want proof, lol. It’s not like you would accept it anyway, which has been proven many times already. Then I stopped responding to you all together. After that I started to try and reason with you without insults. I got grief from others on here for attempting to talk to you like a sane human being. They were right! Now we’re back where we started. 90% of your comments contain some sort of religious bigotry. I can’t help if you are blind to it.

          57. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I’ll reply in a bit, in a class.

          58. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Ok, class is over, so I can finally reply.

            I think you guys are generalising and being overly emotional. I never ever joined O’s insults towards Hind nor am I “siding” with O, and neither is she “siding” with me. Enough with this emotional BS. All I said was that in all fairness, Hind does spend hours and hours here spewing hate and lies against Jews and sunnis, and that its even worse in her case because good luck to anyone who tries to provide evidence to her, as she simply won’t listen to anything you say or modify technical mistakes (and many many people have said this, this isn’t something new I came up with in order to “attack” her). One simple criticism. And then the emotional accusations and insults began; “you are a zionist snake”, “you are another Malmaquer”, yada yada yada. And now she has this conspiracy that I’m paid and that I was reading her conversations on Al Jazeera whenever that was.

            You are correct about her situation here being more sensitive, but that doesnt and shouldnt shut me or anyone else up from expressing our views. I simply couldn’t stand her of all people lecturing others about accepting other religions and beliefs.

          59. Ok I can only apologize for my emotions….it was that time of the month =O

          60. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            You don’t need to apologise for anything =) ugh really would be nice if you stopped in London when you go on holiday 😛

          61. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Jews and Sunnis” ? Haha… because Wahhabi and ISIS are Sunnis..Viva Sunni ISIS.
            You don’t know my life have some respect i very good Jewish friends, not Zionists! Friends.

          62. And I have shite friends

          63. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            cause you’re shite.

          64. How’d you guess. My imam is khara immi.

          65. Interesting how you don’t have Sunni friends

          66. You lying shite.

            “Stalk

            gerund or present participle: stalking
            1.
            pursue or approach stealthily.
            “a cat stalking a bird”
            synonyms: creep up on, trail, follow, shadow, track down, go after, be after, dog, hound, course, hunt, pursue, chase, give chase to, run after; informaltail
            “he noticed a stoat stalking a rabbit”
            2.
            stride somewhere in a proud, stiff, or angry manner.”

          67. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Really? You think I made up a definition of a word? You really are a moron. Oh my god, you’re too much. Hahahaha

            stalk 2 |stôk|verb1 [ with obj. ] pursue or approach stealthily: a cat stalking a bird.• harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention: for five years she was stalked by a man who would taunt and threaten her.• chiefly literary move silently or threateningly through (a place): the tiger stalks the jungle | figurative : fear stalked the camp.2 [ no obj. ] stride somewhere in a proud, stiff, or angry manner: without another word she turned and stalked out.

          68. Cook, please look at my reply below to Mano, it is for your consideration too.

          69. I knew you would come barking like the hypocrite you truly are. You didn’tet me down, good boy. Now sit!

          70. I am a Hypocryte! FUCK YOU for now and next year TOO!!! :):):):):):)

          71. The BIGGEST hypocrite you hypocritical son of a slag. Rapist son of a bitch. :))))

          72. KING HYPOCRYTE, His royal HYPNESS! i LOVE ME 🙂 WHO DO YOU LOVE? ME :):):)

          73. Truth hurts ay hypocrite!

          74. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            O o 0 o..please.. what’s the use, this place became a psychiatric clinic:))

          75. Yea it did. Only coz you refused to admit yourself to your local psychiatric clinic.

          76. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Va chier

          77. Chink wa

          78. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I never had a Face Book Ever.. i was invited by a friend of my aunt, i protested it was a spying place..when he posted in public the friend NAME, his gallery up North, my code, city, province, internet provider and parts of my private email, i called my company and asked how can people can know all my private email? They said Madame you were on Facebook 4 Years ago ..we have all the information if you need to go to the police.
            You wee on JP, you must have seen how many times he impersonated me as Hind Abyad,
            I even saw him impersonating with my Initials..

            You saw him as John Gilbert? I still have your email.
            Now don’t be surprised that hurts, when i said i never forgive my instinct proved right.

          79. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You lacking in logic and reality, i didn’t attack you yesterday, when you did it had a definite effect on me..you proved one can not trust a Zionist..my words are what you deserved. Accept them as an adult.. i never forgive.

          80. Hind, with all due respect for your feelings being hurt, a Zionist or a Lebanese or a Japanese can make a mistake, I make mistakes everyday, we all do! please reconsider never being able to forgive…not a good formula for a world full of people that make mistakes 🙂

          81. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (I think I made a mistake coming back to say ‘BYE’ for a few days… but ….)
            ENJOY, EVERYONE … ;-))

          82. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            🙂 I don’t believe it..i can forgive but not when one adds insult to injury.

          83. Learn to believe it! 🙂 Cook hates humidity, I will lock him up in a sauna for a week and let it go after that, He has a good heart I just have to get his head fixed =D

          84. Get your ugly head fixed first. There’s some Christian be headers south of the border

          85. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            No, no, Geo .. Sauna is dry heat … TURKISH BATH ..that’s the one. 😉

          86. Just bought one on ebay… thank you for the advice 🙂

          87. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I will ask you a favour Geo, drop out of any relation with the O- cook case.
            End please? Thank you:)

          88. No worries Hindy as you wish 🙂 I think we all can do a better job expressing ourselves or maybe saying nothing is sometimes better, time to throw the rear view mirror away and look forward. Coffee?

          89. “I will ask you a favour Geo, drop out of any relation with the O- cook case.
            End please? Thank you:)”

            I knew it was you impersonating me yesterday and being nasty to cook using my Nic.
            This just proves how much it burns you inside when others finally see your true deceptive ways.

          90. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Show it.

          91. What is it?

          92. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            O Hind Abyad • 6 hours ago
            (..) I knew it was you impersonating me yesterday and being nasty to cook using my Nic.
            This just proves how much it burns you inside when others finally see ?your true deceptive ways.
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          93. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            How does he know your area code then?

          94. From what I recall, daft mare posted it and said it was to its “private parts”. Problem with proving what daft mare brayed is that it continually edits and deletes what it brays. A truly deceptive and dishonest tactic.

          95. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I’ve always had the impression that she must have posted personal information e.g. her area code, and Mal took advantage of this. It’s so much easier if she tells us exactly what happened instead of beating around the bush and changing the subject with conspiracies of me being paid or that I must have been on Al Jazeera. This is dishonest emotional bullshit.

            By the way I know that you don’t like Geo for defending her but he really is a sincere and nice person and I really don’t think you should insult him.

          96. “This is dishonest emotional bullshit”

            Now you know how I feel.

            As for geo, he insulted me first, purely coz I attacked that slag daft mare

          97. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I really think you should get to know him. Hind absolutely does not define who he is.

          98. I took your advice

          99. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Saw your post, good stuff. Geo and I email each other quite often. He is a good friend and knows how to take other people’s views into consideration. Even when I lose my temper and make horrible comments about the Palestinians, he keeps his calm and tries to explain things in a nice and friendly manner (none of the “you are evil”, “you are paid”, blah blah blah).

          100. I also caught her out lying previously about Facebook.
            This is her comments.

            “I was never ever on Facebook ”

            “I was on it for a while then deleted it”

            “I was invited to a friends Facebook”

            “No, my Aunty was invited to Facebook”

            I will never EVER believe ANYTHING she says.
            Like on this thread, she said something to me and then she read a comment from geo to me. So she went and edited it to manipulate geo.
            she honestly is the MOST, and I mean MOST, deceptive “person” I’ve ever come across. A pathological liar.

          101. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Idiot i can’t delete something that’s not in my name, and stop copying me. yesterday i said the word “manipulating”..suddenly it entered your vocabulary..5 times

          102. “Idiot stop copying me. Yesterday i said the word “manipulating” suddenly it entered your vocabulary.”

            Idiot there you go again lying! I said to yesterday that you were attempting to manipulate him and now you are attempting to manipulate geo. so it is you who is copying me, not that I care but I do care about your blatant lies.
            and since when did you have copyrights on the English language?

            LMFAO I fantasize about your private life???? Keep dreaming you delusional paranoid freak.
            As for your lies regarding Facebook, your story changes yet again.

          103. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Thanks for telling me that. I also thought her reply (about how Mal knows her code) was somewhat dodgy.

          104. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I never had a Face Book Ever.. i was invited by a friend of my aunt, i protested it was a spying place..when he posted in public the friend NAME, his gallery up North, my code, city, province, internet provider and parts of my private email, i called my company and asked how can people know all my private email?

            They said Madame you were on Facebook 4 Years ago ..we have all the information if you need to go to the police.

            You wee on JP, you must have seen how many times he impersonated me as Hind Abyad,
            I even saw him impersonating with my Initials..

            You saw him as John Gilbert..i still have that your email.
            Now don’t be surprised I’m hurt. .when i said i never forgive, my instinct proved right.

          105. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            What? “and NOT because she has no idea where he got it from” Oh..you’re worst than i ever dreamed, why would i do that? What was your name on Al Jazeera..I left 3 years ago when Dany Nohra stole Malmequer ID – a Portuguese Jewish woman because she defended Palestinians. Malmequer is Portuguese, it means “Mal Aimé” in French.

          106. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “You are paid, evil, bla bla bla”, didn’t see that one coming.

            I never posted on Al Jazeera, I just thought you mentioned some personal information which mal picked up. Enough with the name calling and conspiracies.

          107. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Enough?

            “By the way, Hind herself posted her area code on Al Jazeera couple years ago, hence why Mal knows it and other details she’s posted. It freaks her out because other posters now know where she lives, and NOT because she has no idea where he got it from” ???

            2-“I never posted on Al Jazeera, I just thought you mentioned some personal information which mal picked up. Enough with the name calling and conspiracies.”

            STOP IT !!! Good bye

          108. first of all, it doesn’t present facts!
            Second of all, it claimed to be married so it isn’t living alone. Unless its “gay” husband doesn’t live with it but with another tranny.
            Third of all, you will defend it blindly coz it is shite like you.

          109. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            She is a Christian and you’re religious bigot. Buzz off turd.

          110. “She kept on ignoring the facts ”

            EXACTLY what cook and I and many others say too.

          111. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Of course she denied that she denies facts when I told her that.

          112. As far as denying facts and supporting a regime, her and mek are exactly alike.

          113. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            There were no discussions going on, you only joined O insults and gave examples; “many people disagree with Hind”..here’s what i got this morning

            doron – Hind Abyad • 5 hours ago

            99.9% of your genes are shared by Chimpanzies Hind yet you don’t share the fure, the ugly face or the long arms 🙂
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            I always abstained from giving likes to mano, when you were discussing (not to mix opinions with friendship) until you liked doron Malmequer O hate posts..

          114. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            ‘fure’ ???

          115. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He means fur. This a Nazi supremacy.

          116. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Oh. Hmmm … I like when there’s no furey … 😉 Nice you don’t ‘share’. ;-))

          117. Fur you brain dead baboon

          118. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            You liar, I did NOT join O’s insults or her comments in general. Stop with the conspiracies that I was on Al Jazeera or the lie that I supported O’s disgusting insults. You can’t stand the fact that I made a a single criticism, that you have a raging hate for Jews and Sunnis.

          119. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You talked about Al Jazeera..go back, you don’t read my replies?

          120. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I assume thats where you met Mal.

          121. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You just added more funny to it.

          122. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            A Snow Shovel. Kids need the exercise … Remember who fought the Battle of Britain. 😉

          123. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol, Canada then =D

          124. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            (I’m pretty sure O lives in Australia. What dyou think?)

          125. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            (Yah .. or a Californian Beach … I thinks she been on both at times .. beaches are safe here. And I can show you the naked ones … ;-)) You adapt to the ‘cool’.)

          126. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Today she stopped posting here at about 12:30 am Australian time lol

          127. China

          128. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “Quit groveling or you’re going back on my shite list.” =(

          129. Then I’m definitely not grovelling. Then you might also expect me to self flagellate.

          130. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            First find out what loyalty means.

          131. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Then, Hannibal, the loyalty needs to be a much larger ‘concept’ to bear in mind always.
            PEACE is a concept to aim for – while still having loyalty.

        2. Moot question. That is like saying “what if US military decided to use its Turkish bases to bomb Syria without Turkish permission. Would they shoot down pursuing Turkish planes?” It would never happen. Not a valid point.
          Same thing with South Korea. US would never shoot at ROK ship that hits Northern nuke plant, even with 38k US soldiers there. There is often tension between allies, but never outright warfare.
          Obama was quoted as saying that in a meeting. It was never confirmed or denied by the White House since they genuinely feared IAF strike. They also know that they can say things about Israel that they would never say about Turks or South Koreans in such a situation.
          For that to actually happen, there would be “triggers” that would just never be pushed (see Turkish and South Korean above). Allies might argue and bluster, but they do not go to war.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            First, the folks agree to disagree … and then it takes some time for each to understand what they disagree about. Usually it’s about who drops ashes on the carpet VS who has to clean them up. Logic finally dictates one hands the vacuum to the one who drops.
            Sometimes, they just never knew where to plug in the cord, but didn’t want to admit that.
            😉

    4. Seems you are a Iranian citizen

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        seems you’re a c|_|nt as in raped kOs in Arabic…

        1. Wow you are lame. Your best is to capitalise a letter in a word. You really must bore even the dead

    5. You are a Iranian representative.

  5. cook2half Avatar
    cook2half

    Impeach oboz0

  6. Caribbean Avatar
    Caribbean

    Eliot Engel is not a democrat or an American he’s a Jew

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