Attack on Lebanese restaurant rattles Kabul expat community

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KABUL—Shock spread through Kabul’s close-knit expatriate community after the Taliban killed 21 people, including the International Monetary Fund’s mission chief and a senior United Nations official, in a dinnertime attack on a popular restaurant Friday.

With at least 13 foreigners—including at least two Americans—among the victims, this was the deadliest attack targeting foreign civilians in Kabul since the war began in 2001. Almost everyone among the diplomats, aid workers and journalists based in Afghanistan personally knew at least some of the people who died in the assault on Taverne du Liban.

The attack was prompting many foreigners to reconsider their decision to live in the Afghan capital. “It’s shocking. Myself, I will personally not go to any restaurant at all,” one foreign humanitarian worker said Saturday. Many international organizations in Kabul placed their personnel on lockdown or imposed movement restrictions following the attack.

The attack targeting foreign civilians in Kabul was likely to accelerate an exodus of expatriates, already under way as international aid shrinks and U.S.-led coalition forces prepare to withdraw from the country by December.

Many foreigners in Kabul were particularly enraged by the fact that Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who frequently issues statements to criticize U.S. airstrikes, took some 20 hours to come up with a condemnation of the restaurant attack.

“It looks like when Afghans are killed by foreigners, the condemnation is very speedy. But when it is the other way around, it’s not. These were civilians, they were not the military,” said Kate Clark, a researcher with the Afghanistan Analysts Network in Kabul.

The restaurant’s chef, Abdul Majid, was among those injured
The restaurant’s chef, Abdul Majid, was among those injured

Even in his Saturday statement sympathizing with the victims of the restaurant killings, Mr. Karzai used the occasion to censure the U.S. and its allies, urging them to “distinguish between terrorists and victims” and saying that they have pursued a policy that had no achievements in the past decade.

Mr. Karzai’s relations with the U.S. soured in recent months over his refusal to sign a security agreement that would allow some American forces to remain after this year, and his recent moves to free Taliban insurgent suspects despite American objections.

At the funeral for two Afghan victims of the attack, a newlywed couple that was dining at the Lebanese restaurant Friday, relative Mohammad Zakir said he was angry with the releases. “The prisoners who are freed go back to the Taliban, continue as before, conducting suicide bombings and killing people,” he said at the Saturday funeral outside Kabul’s Eid-Gah mosque.

Daoud Sultanzoy, a former lawmaker and TV talk-show host who’s a candidate to succeed Mr. Karzai as president in the April elections, called on the West to remain committed to Afghanistan despite Friday’s massacre.

“I urge the international community to realize the reason for their presence in Afghanistan. They came to this country because of such atrocious acts, and these acts should not be a reason for their exodus,” Mr. Sultanzoy said. “The weaker the resolve of our government and the international community, the more aggressive is the posture of the Taliban.”

The Lebanese restaurant targeted Friday was in Kabul’s Wazir Akbar Khan central district, home to many embassies, aid organizations and guesthouses. At about 7:30 p.m. Friday, a Taliban suicide bomber blew himself up at the compound’s gate, officials said. Then two other insurgents burst in and gunned down the diners at their tables.

Afghanistan’s government said Saturday it removed the district police chief and district intelligence chief responsible for Wazir Akbar Khan after Friday’s attack, and placed them under investigation.

On Saturday morning, Afghan and international investigators began scouring the site for body parts and evidence. Several shrapnel-riddled SUVs used by the foreign officials who perished in the attack were still parked outside. The restaurant’s sign, decorated with a Lebanese flag, remained above the blown-up gate.

The restaurant’s Lebanese owner was among the dead. Established several years ago, Taverne du Liban offered kebabs, fattoush and hummus to foreign—and Afghan—guests. It discreetly served wine to non-Muslims in teapots, and was famous for dishing out large complimentary helpings of chocolate cake with the check.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, saying in an English-language statement that they targeted “a restaurant frequented by high-ranking foreigners… where the invaders used to dine with booze and liquor in the plenty.” The Taliban called the attack retaliation for an American airstrike Tuesday in Parwan province—north of Kabul—that targeted insurgents and resulted in civilian casualties. Mr. Karzai strongly condemned that airstrike.

The dead at Taverne du Liban included Vadim Nazarov, a senior U.N. political officer who spoke fluent Farsi and who—a rarity among Kabul’s expats—drove himself around the Afghan capital. A soft-spoken Russian, Mr. Nazarov worked to open a reconciliation dialogue with the Taliban. Instead, he ended up their victim.

In all, four U.N. staff perished in the restaurant. “Such targeted attacks against civilians are completely unacceptable and are in flagrant breach of international humanitarian law. They must stop immediately,” the U.N. said.

The IMF, a U.N. affiliate that plays a crucial role in funding the Afghan government and supporting the country’s economy, said it lost its mission head in Afghanistan, Wabel Abdallah, a 60-year-old Lebanese.

“This is tragic news, and we at the fund are all devastated,” said the lending organization’s managing director, Christine Lagarde.

A Danish member of the European Union police mission in Afghanistan and a British citizen who was part of his security team were also among those killed at Taverne du Liban, the EU said. Canada said it lost two citizens in the attack, and Britain said another British national was among the dead.

The U.S. said at least two private American citizens were among the fatalities. No embassy personnel were hurt. The American University of Afghanistan said that two of its employees, a member of the political-science faculty and a member of the student-affairs staff, were killed in the restaurant attack.

Afghans who died in the Taliban raid included a couple who came to the Lebanese restaurant for a celebratory dinner, and a driver for an Afghan phone company who was waiting outside.

WSJ

Photo: Afghan civilians look at a damaged vehicle after Friday’s suicide attack of a Lebanese restaurant in Kabul . A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, asserted responsibility for the attack.

Rahmat Gul / AP

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377 responses to “Attack on Lebanese restaurant rattles Kabul expat community”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “…to dine with booze and liquor in the plenty.”
    Btru2u will understand why they just had to kill all those folks then. I’m sure they were all just falling drunk from the chairs anyway, in a nightly spectacle of Lebanese Debauchery which is a hold-over from God Bacchus in the Roman Temple.
    And chocolate cake … Free??? … must be a form of Lebanese brain-washing.

    Adding to the Taliban Dictionary:
    Wine = Booze
    Accountant = high-ranking foreigner… = invader
    Teacher = Female Educator = invader

    (Note: Taliban from Pakistan is not ‘invader’ .. is prohibitionist freedom fighter for Karzai.)

    1. wargame1 Avatar

      The Taliban were the legitimate government of Afghanistan. What the occupation force did was very very wrong. Occupying that country under a false pretext. 98% Afghans never heard of 911 attack. Now its about 11 years and the occupation forces are defeated. They need to get out from there as soon as possible. Let us mourn for those who died in the restaurant but dont forget to include the 16 Afghan civilian who also died just few days before by US drone attack. The restaurant attack was a retaliation as the Taliban claimed. The majority sunnis in Afghanistan will never accept the hegemony of USA and their stooge Iran. Its a total defeat for them and they should leave fast.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        ‘Hegemony’ – origin Greek: ‘hegemon’ – leader
        Modern: Dominance of one social group or state over others.
        A viable description of ALL of their desires, I would think.
        But we can see that some are NOT really very sociable. (the acid-in-the-face of young ladies wishing an education doesn’t seem so)

        1. wargame1 Avatar

          You may watch the following video where you can see the Lebanese owner of that restaurant talking to Al Jazera in 2008. Some old footage of that restaurant plus the aftermath of the attack. Here is the youtube video link
          /watch?v=wNth_P3rGPg

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            This proves what exactly? That the Lebanese owner hoped his business would benefit all Afghanis? Shame on him.

            All it shows is that the idiotic murdering terrorists found a soft target where they can kill innocent civilians and claim its payback for the drone strike that killed civilians.

          2. wargame1 Avatar

            The target was not soft , the restaurant was full of globalist and Illuminati IMF etc. The restaurant door was like a prison door which was blown off. You are not allowed to go in there if you are not a globalist shape shifting lizard. It seems a soft target initially but the Taliban knows where to hit. Now if the globalist dont like it then they can stay for few years more. I have little information about that restaurant.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            Globalist, Illuminati, and shape shifting lizards. I’m convinced you’re off your meds again. A restaurant is not a soft target?

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You have little real information about anything … especially life.

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And that was your ‘proof’?? A door?? Did you EVER think of Design???
            EVERY Middle Eastern city (Old Damascus; Tripoli or Tyre Lebanon; Amman Jordan; Places in India; etc) HAS skinny two-donkey streets between high walls with doors which look heavy and imposing … giving little sign of what is behind them … perhaps a name or number only.
            PRIVACY from the idiot ‘religious’ rabble walking the street.
            BUT INSIDE, spacious courtyards and rooms around the perimeters … often two stories with an inside balcony … shaded areas to sit for a coffee … green trees in pots … sometimes a fountain in the middle … several levels more peaceful than what is outside … privacy for a ‘family’ away from the prying eyes of little street-despots trying to catch them not doing a daily ‘rule’ of the Koran.
            5000 years of hiding. Behind doors and faceless hot dry mud walls … inside, they can find some peace. And cooler air.
            I found the contrast remarkable … and enjoyed the inner sanctums too .. as DO people in ANY restaurants when they wish to be able to digest a good meal in the company of people wishing the same.
            But your Taliban buddies want to screw up ‘life’ to the point of making sure they can blow in any door with a wired body, and rush in guns blazing to disturb the ‘family of man’ at peace.
            A MALL is the same thing. A Museum is the same thing. An Art gallery is the same thing. A Theatre is the same thing. Mosques in Timbuktu are the same thing. And all these are things the Taliban will take away from humans if they can … along with the peace we seek.
            WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN ????

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Did you listen to all he said, or only pick the bits to suit your agenda?

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            There is no agenda , I just found the video and shared with you.

        2. wargame1 Avatar

          I heard about those acid thing , Malala shooting , they are all propaganda to cover up the drone attack by USA killing Afghan civilian. You may read the Afghan history and remember they love their woman and children more than the USA invading Pigs

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            You’re so delusional, it’s not even funny. Yeah, maybe Malala shot herself in the face, because she secretly hated school. They love their women in Afghanistan, I’m guessing just like they love their women in Saudia Arabia or the Sudan. Hopefully Muslim women will wake up one day and demand their rights to work, education, and be free from wife beating psychos. Maybe even one day they will be able to drive a car, won’t that be something.

          2. A Muslim country had a female for president and yet the so called advanced US still hasn’t had one and Australia only recently achieved it through a coup. Please stop labelling all Muslims with your tainted views. All you are doing is causing problems instead of solving them and you obviously don’t lose any sleep over how Muslim women are treated, you are just using it as ammo for your hatred. I hope you start seeing people as humans and not as the other.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            I guess the far east Asian cultures are more forward thinking then the Arab Muslim countries. Arab Muslim countries have never elected a female president, they can’t even drive in SA. Do you think women have it good in Saudia Arabia? You’re living in a progressive civilized non-islamic country, why? You enjoy the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you?

            Did you know that the Quran says its ok to beat your wife if she disobeys? Of course, only lightly for the first offense

          4. wargame1 Avatar

            The problem of some arrogant people is they have a hobby to find out which culture is better than the others and then they go to civilize some of them but there the Talibans are coming from the beat the shit out of these arrogant ass and send them home in a body bag

          5. wargame1 Avatar

            Who is malala and what happened? Where is the witness?

          6. man-o-war Avatar

            haha, the witness is the poor girl who got her face shot off. I’m pretty sure a Taliban member just wrote her apologizing for the crime committed against her, but explained why it had happened. No?

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            She was a piece of propaganda. The american should stop those drone attack so many human lives can be saved. Taliban will make the educational curricular when they are back

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            AND DAMN GOOD PROPAGANDA TOO, Idiot.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And he would not have written it if she had died … the Assholes made a big mistake there for sure … and the tale IS told well. By the other friends who were also wounded as well ….

          10. man-o-war Avatar

            Is that like when a woman is raped in a country run under Sharia law? There must be a witness to the rape or it never happened. Rapist always bring along a witness, duh!

          11. wargame1 Avatar

            What is sharia law?

          12. Patience2 Avatar

            An old, well established form of insanity.

          13. wargame1 Avatar

            Thats why the sunnis are beating the crap out of the Iranian sponsored Al-Qaeda.

          14. wargame1 Avatar

            The Talibans are not delusional. They are the real thing

          15. man-o-war Avatar

            I never said that, I said you’re delusional. Remind us again why you’re living and prospering in a Western country?

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s your one true line today … and they are the most screwed-up brains on the planet .. slightly worse than the North Korean despots. And I see you have joined them. No Delusion – they BELIEVE!!! And they are wrong.

          17. Patience2 Avatar

            No, they ARE delusional AND the real thing, thus their danger to humanity.

          18. wargame1 Avatar

            The Israelite Pashtun Tribe of Afghanistan remains as the most powerful, warlike, and resilient tribe, that has remained untamed throughout all history. The Pashtun Tribes of Afghanistan, throughout all the course of history, has been the only tribe that has defied all the major imperial forces on this earth. staunch in religious fervor, filled with honor and pride and is unforgiving of its enemy; one that will fight its enemy until one of them is dead.” The Children of Israel is not lost in the sight of God. They are “God’s Battle Axe” – and they live in Afghanistan. The people of Moses (peace be upon him) .You can plot and plan and badmouth against them But you wont be able to defeat them.

          19. wargame1 Avatar

            The Pashtun in Afghanistan are the Tribes of Bani-Israel i.e. The TALIBAN
            names of Afghani tribes resemble those of some of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Rebbani (Reuben); Levoni (Levi*); Ephriti (Ephraim); Yusuf Si means Sons of Yosef (Joseph). The Ghaghi tribesmen claim their name is from Gad. (*Levi, as a whole, is not a lost tribe. Many Levites still exist among Jews today. Yet it is assumed that many individual Levites were exiled along with the Lost Tribes.) Jewish names such as “Israel,” not so typical in the “radically fundamental Islamic state”(as the haters call) of Afghanistan, are found among many Pathani. Jewish names have been seen on tombstones in far-flung graveyards around the country.

          20. wargame1 Avatar

            How the Name Afghanistan (Israelite name) evolve which was always called Khorasan i.e. It means “where the sun arrives from.” Direction East and there is prophesy in the Bible about Khorasan.
            King Saul had a son called Jeremiah who had a son called Afghana. Jeremiah died at about the time of King Saul’s death and Afghana was raised by King David and remained in the royal court during King Solomon’s reign. According to Islamic traditions, Afghana was a general of the army of “King David (peace be with him)”. About 400 years later in the time of disorder of Israel, the Afghana family fled to a land called Gur which is in central Afghanistan. They settled and traded with the people of the area and in the year 662 (CE), with the arrival of Islam, the sons of Israel in Gur reverted to the prophet of Islam with 7 representatives of the Afghans. The leader of the sons of Israel was Kish like the name of Saul’s father. According to this tradition prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) rewarded them and Kish’s Hebrew name was changed to ” Abdur-Rashid ” by prophet Muhammad and was given the task of spreading Islam among his people.” This man Kish Abdur-Rashid married one of the Daughters of Khalid Ibn Walid the undefeated military General in History who is also titled as The ” Sword of Allah”. The Pushtun tribe are their progeny. A youtube Video of the shrine of Kish Abdur Rashid in Afghanistan
            /watch?v=IiNqyMRtlSk

          21. wargame1 Avatar

            Narrated by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags.(Tirmizi)
            ———————————————
            This is the Black flag of the Pushtuns in Afghanistan and NOT those savage sharia thumper Al-Qaeda carrying a black flag to fool the muslims

          22. wargame1 Avatar

            Here is a video report of those supposed Hijackers ALIVE!!!!!!!! Youtube video link bellow.

            /watch?v=lgPbvRxOwTs

            /watch?v=FC9X68Yv8bI

          23. It’s not as delusional as u make out. False flag operations are quite common. I don’t know the truth about malala but nothing surprises me anymore except the evilness some humans portray.

          24. man-o-war Avatar

            False flag operations are quite common, okay. Don’t you think somebody can make a case for false flag operations in just about every situation that occurs. For example, the Tripoli mosque bombings, Hariri assasination, Beirut car bombings, and on and on.

            What ever happened to Malala, nobody can tell you the absolute truth but God. Whatever the case is , she is making the best of it and promoting women’s rights for education and upward mobility in her country. I wish her the best of luck and nothing but hellfire for whoever committed the attack.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Read her book … for HER truth.
            HER rights as an individual.

          26. Women are allowed to work and be educated. Stop spreading falsehoods.
            Here is a perfect example:

            “Hayat Sindi, a nanotechnologist and biotechnology entrepreneur from Saudi Arabia, has become the first Arab woman invited to the newly formed UN Scientific Advisory Board.”

            In Iraq, prior to the American genocide, equal rights for women were enshrined in Iraq’s Constitution in 1970, including the right to vote, run for political office, access education and own property. Today, these rights are all but absent under the U.S.-backed government of Nouri al-Maliki.
            Yet you never criticise the US for making Iraqi women second class citizens with very little rights.

          27. man-o-war Avatar

            Here is a little more info about Hayat Sindi, from Wikipedia.

            “Hayat Sindi was born in Mecca in 6 November 1967.[6] In 1991, she convinced her family to allow her to travel alone to the United Kingdom in order to pursue her higher education.[7] After a year spent learning English and studying for her A-levels, she was accepted to King’s College London,[8] where she graduated with a degree in pharmacology in 1995. While at King’s College she was a recipient of Princess Anne’s Award for her undergraduate work on allergy.

            Sindi, who wears the traditional Muslim headscarf, was pressured to abandon her religious and cultural beliefs while at university; she persisted, holding the view that a person’s religion, color or gender has no bearing on scientific contributions.[9]Sindi went on to get a Ph.D. in biotechnology from Cambridge University in 2001; she was the first Saudi woman to be accepted at Cambridge University in the field of biotechnology,[10][11] and the first woman from any of the Arab States of the Persian Gulf to complete a doctoral degree in the field.[3][8]”

            All of her studies and research have been in western countries. Pretty interesting, No?

            You want me to criticise the US backed Iraqi government, ok. If what you say is true, its wrong and shameful. They need to give them their rights back.

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And Afghanis are not all Taliban Dorks, dork.

          29. 5th there’s no need to abuse wargame, he never responds to abuse unlike me and for that I admire him.

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Barabie … I AM familiar with wargame … I’ve enjoyed SOME of his research – but he didn’t read ‘I Am Malala’ for sure … I know he just plugs along with all the theories most of the time, but if he’s more submissive than me that’s his problem. … :-)))

          31. Sorry didn’t mean to preach. Xx

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (sure … now make me shiver …. )

          33. The majority, prior to the invasion, were Taliban supporters. Can’t tell what those figures are now because the demographics have been forcibly changed.

          34. man-o-war Avatar

            You never could tell what those figures are, now or before. Did you take a poll over the phone or go house to house to see what the majority wanted? Who was keeping track? Now were both guilty of commenting about things we have no clue about.

          35. wargame1 Avatar

            Yes true and many of them are minority stooge of the occupation force. What are you going to do when you see the mighty occupation force failed to defeat Taliban? Get real

      2. man-o-war Avatar

        The Taliban may have never heard of 9/11, true. That would require internet access and that would be haram. The taliban had created a safe haven for Al qaeda to hang out in peace and plot world domination. I agree that it’s wrong when civilians die on either side and it should be spoken out against.

        Normal sane Afghanis also don’t want to be ruled by backwards thinking psychos like the Taliban, who impose a harsh form of justice and law.

        1. Who are you to decide what type of government the afghans want?

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            I’m a human being. I know the difference between right an wrong. If the Afghanis want to be ruled by backward thinking cavemen thats fine. I guess I just thought sane Afghanis would want to join the 21st century soon. Sorry barabie, do you know what they want?

          2. Not all human beings know the difference between right and wrong but that’s beside the point. You were preaching to the afghans about what government they should have and neither you nor me have that right only afghans do. Those poor people have suffered enough at the hands of firstly the Russians and now the Americans. Can’t money hungry world “leaders” just give them a fair go? And then people have a go at them and belittle them because they are not up to their standards, maybe those people should try surviving (i deliberately didn’t use the word living) two invasions by two world powers and see how advanced they get.

          3. wargame1 Avatar

            Taliban are coming back and you cant do anything about it. For the last 11 years 67+ countries jointly tried to destroy Taliban but they couldn’t. In the past the Afghans defeated the Mongols , The Persians , defeated the British 4 times then grilled the Russians and now they are defeating the monster. So after all these we all need to get some lesson. Please let the Afghans run their country and wise up and ask for withdrawal for those who occupied

          4. man-o-war Avatar

            The one thing I will agree with you on, is that the US needs to withdrawal from Afghanistan. In my opinion they should’ve never invaded. They really should have invaded and destroyed KSA, the true terrorist safe haven. 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were from there.

            The Afghans come from a long line of warriors.

          5. wargame1 Avatar

            The BBC reported that 7 of those supposed Hijackers were found alive. The supposed ring leader Atta was alive too as his father claimed that his son spoke to him on 12 September 2001. Iran and Israel is behind 911. Israel engineered the attack and Iran invented Al-Qaeda posing as sunnis and claimed responsibility. The official story of 911 is rubbish

          6. man-o-war Avatar

            link us to that BBC report, please.

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            Google ” Hijack ‘suspects’ alive and well ”
            then you will find the BBC report Sunday, 23 September, 2001.

          8. man-o-war Avatar

            A report 12 days after the incident is not proof of anything, give me a break. You know people that don’t want to be traced can steal a persons identity.

          9. l1btard media like the BBC or The Guardian ought not to be trusted, they hate the west and white people. Last time the BBC took pictures from the war in Syria and portrayed it as “casualties in Gaza city”

          10. Tell us about the “dancing Israelis” that were caught on 9/11

          11. Oh, you mean that Youtube video with like 6 people? Probably not even Israelis

            Tell you what, Ill send you the link about thousands of palestinians dancing in Ramallah and Nablus during 9/11:

            “As thousands of Palestinians celebrated in the West Bank and in Lebanese refugee camps, governments across the globe offered condolences to an America that looked more vulnerable than ever after Tuesday’s terror attacks.

            People on every continent watched in horror as astonishing images of terror in the United States filled their television screens. But in the West Bank town of Nablus, Palestinians cheered and distributed candy to passers-by, and Iraqi television played a patriotic song that began “Down with America!” as it showed the World Trade Center towers collapsing.

            About 3,000 people poured into the streets of Nablus shortly after the attacks began, chanting “God is Great” and — in their traditional gesture of celebration — handed out candy.”

            http://www.foxnews.COM/story/2001/09/12/
            arafat-horrified-by-attacks-but-thousands-
            palestinians-celebrate-rest-world/

          12. “A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

            The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)”

            “The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

            “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)
            Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)”

            Not Israelis ay? Haha

          13. What happened on 9/11 is quite clear; it was a terrorist attack by Islamists.

            What your madrasa tells you does not count.

          14. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            who cares about 9/11 anyway. their 9/11 is our 24/7! thx to the very same a55holes

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No media should be trusted except the media under Nato countries collective policy?

          16. My personal blacklist list:

            BBC
            The Guardian
            SANA
            Al Manar
            Fars TV
            IRIB
            Pars TV
            Ma’an

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            All the news you never like to see, right? :-)))))

          18. Yup, also Press TV. Blacklisted.

            SANA is blocked in Israel anyway, but you can access it in the UK.

          19. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            thats bcuz there is no freedom of speech there just like in iran

          20. Wrong.

          21. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            wrongeen…

          22. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            what about f u k s news? or Hispan tv? ever heard of that b4?

          23. Fox News is the best, I highly recommend

          24. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah sure Cookie … all the ‘sensationalists’ are there for sure, creating their own news.

          25. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            ooowh my…

          26. Which news is your favorite?

          27. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            isnt that obvious? yalibnan D hhhhhhhhhh

          28. Yeah but most pieces are from Reuters. Anything more opinion based?

          29. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            my problem is that my opnion doesnt suit with any news agency

          30. Opinion is fine as long as its specified thats its an opinion piece.

          31. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            but i am somewhere in between anti jomhuri eslami and anti american

          32. Anti American? chera? lol, im anti Obama administration which isnt really American

          33. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            chonke amrika qhatelan. baraye hameen. mardomesh moghaseran ke in vahshiya ro entexab mikonan

          34. Khob dige, they are ‘superpower’, cant be so and be nice at the same time.

          35. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            age injoriye, dg regime eslami ham bayad ghabool konim, inna chonke zooreshoon ziyade nemitoonan xoob bashan

          36. I would never support the Islamic regime though, no matter what the circumstances. Ive lived happily under zionist rule, but who knows, one day ill have to go to my land of origin, and things need to be fixed.

          37. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            age bexay moghayeze koni, crime haye jomhuri esalmi, xeili kamtar az crime haye zionista o amrikaeeya hastan

          38. How? human rights in the country is fine.

          39. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            vali eib nadare bulldoze hameye keshvaraye hamsaye kone? een che no’e human rights-e?????? ya’ni falastinya human nistan? ya’ni lobnaniya human nistan???

          40. um, felstinia tooye Israel zendegee nemikonan. They are not Israeli citizens, and dont live on Israeli annexed land.

            Meslinke begee ke tooye emrika probleme human rights hast, chonke ye sarbaz tooye Afghanistan kare ghalat kard.

            Occupied territory doesnt count. You are confusing a country’s legal constitution, with respect for random people.

          41. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            baraye hamin man heechvaght supporte regime amrika o zionist nemikonam. chonke oona vaght fekre xodeshoonan. vaghte ke irooniya een regime nasty-o toye zebale rixtan o xeili ghodratmand shod bereem keshvaraye oona o pay back konim,

          42. magar alon een regime ‘payback’ nemikhad mekone?

          43. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            vaghte payback een regime nazdeeke. vaghti ke ma ye regime xoobe install kardim ba human rights, oon moghe berim amrika payback konim, chonke oona haghemoon baz ham xordan. yadet rafte amrika democra30 ro az ma bord?

          44. Israel valee kari nakard, that was the UK and U.S.

          45. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            israel dayman yeshaja3 amrika wl UK

          46. Israel at war with Lebanon
            France allies with Lebanon

            Does that make France an enemy of Israel?

            Politics is complicated

          47. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nobody is interrested where you spend your life…

          48. Saw the pictures I uploaded two days ago? like it? 😉

          49. man-o-war Avatar

            Your loss cook. When you limit what news you read, your picture of reality will only be half drawn. Maybe you like it that way. Your brain can fill in the empty space as it sees fit.

          50. lol, have you watched Iranian tv? its dripping with BS. Nevermind international events, im talking of internal domestic affairs. Delusional pricks.

          51. man-o-war Avatar

            What news outlets are not biased and occasionally drip with BS?

          52. There’s biased (and trust me, ive seen biased pieces that dont even pretend not to be biased), and then there’s lies and fairy tales.

          53. Lies and fairytales are what you post on here.

          54. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Almost ‘biblical’, right? :-))))

          55. John 1:1 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

          56. Haha good call

          57. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

          58. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            where’s that pic from? afghanistan?

          59. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hebron, Occupied Territories where else?

          60. What radical settlers do is disgusting, and the State of Israel is against it.

            However, Arabs also spray hate speech on walls, just walk through east Jerusalem and see for yourself. Cherry picking specific events doesnt give the whole picture and is dishonest.

          61. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yes Crook they have 20% repesentatives in the knesset..

          62. And radicals have 100% representatives in the PLO, just read their charter.

          63. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, we know what Assad did to ‘graffiti artists’ don’t we …

          64. Yup, and when Hamza’s parents asked for their son to be released, Assad’s thugs told them “You want your kid? make more kids. And if you dont, we’ll teach you how its done”

          65. “What radical settlers do is disgusting, and the State of Israel is against it.”
            See? “Lies and fairytales”

          66. Nope, its the truth. Id rather have these ugly ultra orthodox freaks stay in the West Bank than to have them in mainland Israel and impose their religious garbage on us.

          67. Yes Israeli government is so against it that provides them housing and military escort when they choose to attack unarmed Palestinian villages.
            Like I said lies and fairytales. I have better things to do than waste time on your lies and fairytales.

          68. Providing homes and security means sending them to spray hate speech and harass people? Okay, lie and fairytales 101

          69. All 9/11 conspiracy theories rebutted:

            http://rationalwiki.ORG/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

          70. wargame1 Avatar

            I am not interested on that anymore. That incident happened then the whole world bombed Iraq and Afghanistan for many years and now its the Talibans turn to teach them a lesson. Have you found a rebuttal on the Lebanese restaurant attack in Afghanistan?

          71. Hezbushaitan paid them to attack

          72. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You got one from me, Dork.

          73. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Al Qaeda was invented in Saudi Arabia..not Iran, Osama be Laden a Saudi founded Al Qaeda.

          74. They should’ve invaded no country!

          75. man-o-war Avatar

            It would be nice, in a perfect world. Also, in a perfect world Saudi hijackers wouldn’t fly airplanes loaded with innocent civilians and use them as a missile, which is then shot at a building with thousands of more innocent civilians.

            Are they in heaven right now Barabie? Are you going to justify their actions by some wrong the Americans perpetrated against the Muslim world?

            (Edited to show the correct spelling of your name, my apologies.)

          76. When you learn to spell my name I will consider responding to your rant.

          77. And who the hell are you to decide what type of government the Syrians want. I can tell they don’t want a bunch of backwards Jihadist lunatics that want to install Sharia law.

          78. wargame1 Avatar

            You have to fight your way through. Smart talking will not change the situation on the ground. Can you defeat the Taliban ? I dont think so. Can you defeat the Syrian sunni rebel? I dont think so. The Syrian sunnis are now fighting the Al-Qaeda so why do you use that same old sharia technique? Al-Qaeda was the last ace for the occupation force and every one including Iran played this card. But now Al-Qaeda is on the run and this card will not be effective much. Sharia card is obsolute now. How about Khelafa card ? Khelafa means succession. or manufacture something new….. Such as …They say Allah Hu Akhbar , they wear funny dress , they dont like education , they eat Kabab, They have beard etc. Lets see the effect.

          79. I’m not the one who decided, the Syrians did. Lol so now you’re the spokesperson for the Syrians. Have a good day. 🙂

        2. “Al qaeda to hang out in peace and plot world domination.”

          Please tell me that was a joke. If not then you’ve been watching too many Hollywood movies.
          Btw before the invasion of Afghanistan the Taliban offered to hand Osama to the Americans if the americans would provide the proof they claimed they linking Osama. Conveniently the Americans found the proof in a video at a random house after the invasion. The Taliban and the rest of the afghans didn’t deserve to be destroyed.

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            They did provide a safe haven for terrorist to train and plot, thats a fact. I agree the poor Afghanis were caught in the middle. They could have turned their guns on Al qaeda and kicked them out of their country.

            The Taliban suck, have you ever spoken to an Afghani how they feel about being ruled by the Taliban?

          2. I have said this already today but will say it one more time. The Taliban enjoyed majority support before the invasion.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            That’s great! You can say that all you want, but it doesn’t mean its true.

          4. Qatar has an office for the Taliban, can you believe these people lol

        3. wargame1 Avatar

          Internet is not haram but the Pig meat is haram . Pig meat and Internet are not same thing

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            Mmmm…bacon!

          2. Patience2 Avatar

            You sound like Homer.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “…to dine with booze and liquor in the plenty.”
    Btru2u will understand why they just had to kill all those folks then. I’m sure they were all just falling drunk from the chairs anyway, in a nightly spectacle of Lebanese Debauchery which is a hold-over from God Bacchus in the Roman Temple. And chocolate cake … Free??? … must be a form of brain-washing.

    Adding to the Taliban Dictionary:
    Wine = Booze
    Accountant = high-ranking foreigner… = invader

    Teacher = Female Educator = invader

    1. wargame1 Avatar

      The Taliban were the legitimate government of Afghanistan. What he occupation force did was very very wrong. Occupying that country under a false pretext. 98% Afghans never heard of 911 attack. Now its about 11 years and the occupation forces are defeated. They need to get out of their as soon as possible. Let us mourn for those who died in the restaurant but dont forget to include the 16 civilian who also died just few days before by US drone attack. The restaurant attack was a retaliation as the Taliban claimed. The majority sunnis in Afghanistan will never accept the hegemony of USa and their stooge Iran. Its a total defeat for them and they should leave fast.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        ‘Hegemony’ – origin Greek: ‘hegemon’ – leader
        Modern: Dominance of one social group or state over others.
        A viable description of ALL of their desires, I would think. But we can see that some are NOT really very sociable.

        1. wargame1 Avatar

          You may watch the following video where you can see the Lebanese owner of that restaurant talking to Al Jazera in 2008. Some old footage of that restaurant plus the aftermath of the attack. Here is the youtube video link
          /watch?v=wNth_P3rGPg

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            This proves what exactly? That the Lebanese owner hoped his business would benefit all Afghanis? Shame on him.

            All it shows is that the idiotic murdering terrorists found a soft target where they can kill innocent civilians and claim its payback for the drone strike that killed civilians.

          2. wargame1 Avatar

            The target was not soft , the restaurant was full of globalist and Illuminati IMF etc. The restaurant door was like a prison door which was blown off. You are not allowed to go in there if you are not a globalist shape shifting lizard. It seems a soft target initially but the Taliban knows where to hit. Now if the globalist dont like it then they can stay for few years more. I have little information about that restaurant.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            Globalist, Illuminati, and shape shifting lizards. I’m convinced you’re off your meds again. A restaurant is not a soft target?

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You have little real information about anything …

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And that was your ‘proof’?? A door?? Did you EVER think of Design???
            EVERY Middle Eastern city (Old Damascus; Tripoli or Tyre Lebanon; Amman Jordan; Places in India; etc) HAS skinny two-donkey streets between high walls with doors which look heavy and imposing … giving little sign of what is behind them … perhaps a name or number only.
            PRIVACY from the idiot ‘religious’ rabble walking the street.
            BUT INSIDE, spacious courtyards and rooms around the perimeters … often two stories with an inside balcony … shaded areas to sit for a coffee … green trees in pots … sometimes a fountain in the middle … several levels more peaceful than what is outside … privacy for a ‘family’ away from the prying eyes of little street-despots trying to catch them not doing a daily ‘rule’ of the Koran.
            5000 years of hiding. Behind doors and faceless hot dry mud walls … inside, they can find some peace.
            I found the contrast remarkable … and enjoyed the inner sanctums too .. as DO people in ANY restaurants when they wish to be able to digest a good meal in the company of people wishing the same.
            But your Taliban buddies want to disturb ‘life’ to the point of making sure they can blow in any door with a wired body, and rush in guns blazing to disturb the ‘family of man’ at peace.
            A MALL is the same thing. A Museum is the same thing. An Art gallery is the same thing. A Theatre is the same thing. Mosques in Timbuktu are the same thing. And all these are things the Taliban will take away from humans if they can … along with the peace we seek.
            WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN ????

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Did you listen to all he said, or only pick the bits to suit your agenda?

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            There is no agenda , I just found the video and shared with you.

        2. wargame1 Avatar

          I heard about those acid thing , Malala shooting , they are all propaganda to cover up the drone attack by USA killing Afghan civilian. You may read the Afghan history and remember they love their woman and children more than the USA invading Pigs

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            You’re so delusional, it’s not even funny. Yeah, maybe Malala shot herself in the face, because she secretly hated school. They love their women in Afghanistan, I’m guessing just like they love their women in Saudia Arabia or the Sudan. Hopefully Muslim women will wake up one day and demand their rights to work, education, and be free from wife beating psychos. Maybe even one day they will be able to drive a car, won’t that be something.

          2. A Muslim country had a female for president and yet the so called advanced US still hasn’t had one and Australia only recently achieved it through a coup. Please stop labelling all Muslims with your tainted views. All you are doing is causing problems instead of solving them and you obviously don’t lose any sleep over how Muslim women are treated, you are just using it as ammo for your hatred. I hope you start seeing people as humans and not as the other.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            I guess the far east Asian cultures are more forward thinking then the Arab Muslim countries. Arab Muslim countries have never elected a female president, they can’t even drive in SA. Do you think women have it good in Saudia Arabia? You’re living in a progressive civilized non-islamic country, why? You enjoy the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you?

            Did you know that the Quran says its ok to beat your wife if she disobeys? Of course, only lightly for the first offense

          4. wargame1 Avatar

            The problem of some arrogant people is they have a hobby to find out which culture is better than the others and then they go to civilize some of them but there the Talibans are coming from the beat the shit out of these arrogant ass and send them home in a body bag

          5. wargame1 Avatar

            Who is malala and what happened? Where is the witness?

          6. man-o-war Avatar

            haha, the witness is the poor girl who got her face shot off. I’m pretty sure a Taliban member just wrote her apologizing for the crime committed against her, but explained why it had happened. No?

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            She was a piece of propaganda. The american should stop those drone attack so many human lives can be saved. Taliban will make the educational curricular when they are back

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            AND DAMN GOOD PROPAGANDA TOO, Idiot.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And he would not have written it if she had died … they Assholes made a big mistake there for sure … and the tale IS told well. By the other friends who were also wounded as well ….

          10. man-o-war Avatar

            Is that like when a woman is raped in a country run under Sharia law? There must be a witness to the rape or it never happened. Rapist always bring along a witness, duh!

          11. wargame1 Avatar

            What is sharia law?

          12. Patience2 Avatar

            An old, well established form of insanity.

          13. wargame1 Avatar

            Thats why the sunnis are beating the crap out of the Iranian sponsored Al-Qaeda.

          14. wargame1 Avatar

            The Talibans are not delusional. They are the real thing

          15. man-o-war Avatar

            I never said that, I said you’re delusional. Remind us again why you’re living and prospering in a Western country?

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s your one true line today … and they are the most screwed-up brains on the planet .. slightly worse than the North Korean despots. And I see you have joined them. No Delusion – they BELIEVE!!! And they are wrong.

          17. Patience2 Avatar

            No, they ARE delusional AND the real thing, thus their danger to humanity.

          18. wargame1 Avatar

            The Israelite Pashtun Tribe of Afghanistan remains as the most powerful, warlike, and resilient tribe, that has remained untamed throughout all history. The Pashtun Tribes of Afghanistan, throughout all the course of history, has been the only tribe that has defied all the major imperial forces on this earth. staunch in religious fervor, filled with honor and pride and is unforgiving of its enemy; one that will fight its enemy until one of them is dead.” The Children of Israel is not lost in the sight of God. They are “God’s Battle Axe” – and they live in Afghanistan. The people of Moses (peace be upon him) .You can plot and plan and badmouth against them But you wont be able to defeat them.

          19. wargame1 Avatar

            The Pashtun in Afghanistan are the Tribes of Bani-Israel i.e. The TALIBAN
            names of Afghani tribes resemble those of some of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Rebbani (Reuben); Levoni (Levi*); Ephriti (Ephraim); Yusuf Si means Sons of Yosef (Joseph). The Ghaghi tribesmen claim their name is from Gad. (*Levi, as a whole, is not a lost tribe. Many Levites still exist among Jews today. Yet it is assumed that many individual Levites were exiled along with the Lost Tribes.) Jewish names such as “Israel,” not so typical in the “radically fundamental Islamic state”(as the haters call) of Afghanistan, are found among many Pathani. Jewish names have been seen on tombstones in far-flung graveyards around the country.

          20. wargame1 Avatar

            How the Name Afghanistan (Israelite name) evolve which was always called Khorasan i.e. It means “where the sun arrives from.” Direction East and there is prophesy in the Bible about Khorasan.
            King Saul had a son called Jeremiah who had a son called Afghana. Jeremiah died at about the time of King Saul’s death and Afghana was raised by King David and remained in the royal court during King Solomon’s reign. According to Islamic traditions, Afghana was a general of the army of “King David (peace be with him)”. About 400 years later in the time of disorder of Israel, the Afghana family fled to a land called Gur which is in central Afghanistan. They settled and traded with the people of the area and in the year 662 (CE), with the arrival of Islam, the sons of Israel in Gur reverted to the prophet of Islam with 7 representatives of the Afghans. The leader of the sons of Israel was Kish like the name of Saul’s father. According to this tradition prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) rewarded them and Kish’s Hebrew name was changed to ” Abdur-Rashid ” by prophet Muhammad and was given the task of spreading Islam among his people.” This man Kish Abdur-Rashid married one of the Daughters of Khalid Ibn Walid the undefeated military General in History who is also titled as The ” Sword of Allah”. The Pushtun tribe are their progeny. A youtube Video of the shrine of Kish Abdur Rashid in Afghanistan
            /watch?v=IiNqyMRtlSk

          21. wargame1 Avatar

            Narrated by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags.(Tirmizi)
            ———————————————
            This is the Black flag of the Pushtuns in Afghanistan and NOT those savage sharia thumper Al-Qaeda carrying a black flag to fool the muslims

          22. wargame1 Avatar

            Here is a video report of those supposed Hijackers ALIVE!!!!!!!! Youtube video link bellow.

            /watch?v=lgPbvRxOwTs

            /watch?v=FC9X68Yv8bI

          23. It’s not as delusional as u make out. False flag operations are quite common. I don’t know the truth about malala but nothing surprises me anymore except the evilness some humans portray.

          24. man-o-war Avatar

            False flag operations are quite common, okay. Don’t you think somebody can make a case for false flag operations in just about every situation that occurs. For example, the Tripoli mosque bombings, Hariri assasination, Beirut car bombings, and on and on.

            What ever happened to Malala, nobody can tell you the absolute truth but God. Whatever the case is , she is making the best of it and promoting women’s rights for education and upward mobility in her country. I wish her the best of luck and nothing but hellfire for whoever committed the attack.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Read her book … for HER truth.

          26. Women are allowed to work and be educated. Stop spreading falsehoods.
            Here is a perfect example:

            “Hayat Sindi, a nanotechnologist and biotechnology entrepreneur from Saudi Arabia, has become the first Arab woman invited to the newly formed UN Scientific Advisory Board.”

          27. man-o-war Avatar

            Here is a little more info about Hayat Sindi, from Wikipedia.

            “Hayat Sindi was born in Mecca in 6 November 1967.[6] In 1991, she convinced her family to allow her to travel alone to the United Kingdom in order to pursue her higher education.[7] After a year spent learning English and studying for her A-levels, she was accepted to King’s College London,[8] where she graduated with a degree in pharmacology in 1995. While at King’s College she was a recipient of Princess Anne’s Award for her undergraduate work on allergy.

            Sindi, who wears the traditional Muslim headscarf, was pressured to abandon her religious and cultural beliefs while at university; she persisted, holding the view that a person’s religion, color or gender has no bearing on scientific contributions.[9]Sindi went on to get a Ph.D. in biotechnology from Cambridge University in 2001; she was the first Saudi woman to be accepted at Cambridge University in the field of biotechnology,[10][11] and the first woman from any of the Arab States of the Persian Gulf to complete a doctoral degree in the field.[3][8]”

            All of her studies and research have been in western countries. Pretty interesting, No?

            You want me to criticise the US backed Iraqi government, ok. If what you say is true, its wrong and shameful. They need to give them their rights back.

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And Afghanis are not all Taliban Dorks, dork.

          29. 5th there’s no need to abuse wargame, he never responds to abuse unlike me and for that I admire him.

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Barabie … I AM familiar with wargame … I’ve enjoyed SOME of his research – but he didn’t read ‘I Am Malala’ for sure … I know he just plugs along with all the theories most of the time, but if he’s more submissive than me that’s his problem. … :-)))

          31. Sorry didn’t mean to preach. Xx

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (sure … now make me shiver …. )

          33. The majority, prior to the invasion, were Taliban supporters. Can’t tell what those figures are now because the demographics have been forcibly changed.

          34. man-o-war Avatar

            You never could tell what those figures are, now or before. Did you take a poll over the phone or go house to house to see what the majority wanted? Who was keeping track? Now were both guilty of commenting about things we have no clue about.

          35. wargame1 Avatar

            Yes true and many of them are minority stooge of the occupation force. What are you going to do when you see the might occupation force failed to defeat Taliban? Get real

      2. man-o-war Avatar

        The Taliban may have never heard of 9/11, true. That would require internet access and that would be haram. The taliban had created a safe haven for Al qaeda to hang out in peace and plot world domination. I agree that it’s wrong when civilians die on either side and it should be spoken out against.

        Normal sane Afghanis also don’t want to be ruled by backwards thinking psychos like the Taliban, who impose a harsh form of justice and law.

        1. Who are you to decide what type of government the afghans want?

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            I’m a human being. I know the difference between right an wrong. If the Afghanis want to be ruled by backward thinking cavemen thats fine. I guess I just thought sane Afghanis would want to join the 21st century soon. Sorry barabie, do you know what they want?

          2. Not all human beings know the difference between right and wrong but that’s beside the point. You were preaching to the afghans about what government they should have and neither you nor me have that right only afghans do. Those poor people have suffered enough at the hands of firstly the Russians and now the Americans. Can’t money hungry world “leaders” just give them a fair go? And then people have a go at them and belittle them because they are not up to their standards, maybe those people should try surviving (i deliberately didn’t use the word living) two invasions by two world powers and see how advanced they get.

          3. wargame1 Avatar

            Taliban are coming back and you cant do anything about it. For the last 11 years 67+ countries jointly tried to destroy Taliban but they couldn’t. In the past the Afghans defeated the Mongols , The Persians , defeated the British 4 times then grilled the Russians and now they are defeating the monster. So after all these we all need to get some lesson. Please let the Afghans run their country and wise up and ask for withdrawal for those who occupied

          4. man-o-war Avatar

            The one thing I will agree with you on, is that the US needs to withdrawal from Afghanistan. In my opinion they should’ve never invaded. They really should have invaded and destroyed KSA, the true terrorist safe haven. 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were from there.

            The Afghans come from a long line of warriors.

          5. wargame1 Avatar

            The BBC reported that 7 of those supposed Hijackers were found alive. The supposed ring leader Atta was alive too as his father claimed that his son spoke to him on 12 September 2001. Iran and Israel is behind 911. Israel engineered the attack and Iran invented Al-Qaeda posing as sunnis and claimed responsibility. The official story of 911 is rubbish

          6. man-o-war Avatar

            link us to that BBC report, please.

          7. wargame1 Avatar

            Google ” Hijack ‘suspects’ alive and well ”
            then you will find the BBC report Sunday, 23 September, 2001.

          8. man-o-war Avatar

            A report 12 days after the incident is not proof of anything, give me a break. You know people that don’t want to be traced can steal a persons identity.

          9. cook2half Avatar

            l1btard media like the BBC or The Guardian ought not to be trusted, they hate the west and white people. Last time the BBC took pictures from the war in Syria and portrayed it as “casualties in Gaza city”

          10. Tell us about the “dancing Israelis” that were caught on 9/11

          11. cook2half Avatar

            Oh, you mean that Youtube video with like 6 people? Probably not even Israelis

            Tell you what, Ill send you the link about thousands of palestinians dancing in Ramallah and Nablus during 9/11:

            “As thousands of Palestinians celebrated in the West Bank and in Lebanese refugee camps, governments across the globe offered condolences to an America that looked more vulnerable than ever after Tuesday’s terror attacks.

            People on every continent watched in horror as astonishing images of terror in the United States filled their television screens. But in the West Bank town of Nablus, Palestinians cheered and distributed candy to passers-by, and Iraqi television played a patriotic song that began “Down with America!” as it showed the World Trade Center towers collapsing.

            About 3,000 people poured into the streets of Nablus shortly after the attacks began, chanting “God is Great” and — in their traditional gesture of celebration — handed out candy.”

            http://www.foxnews.COM/story/2001/09/12/
            arafat-horrified-by-attacks-but-thousands-
            palestinians-celebrate-rest-world/

          12. “A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

            The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)”

            “The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

            “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)
            Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)”

            Not Israelis ay? Haha

          13. cook2half Avatar

            What happened on 9/11 is quite clear; it was a terrorist attack by Islamists.

            What your madrasa tells you does not count.

          14. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            who cares about 9/11 anyway. their 9/11 is our 24/7! thx to the very same a55holes

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No media should be trusted except the media under Nato countries collective policy?

          16. cook2half Avatar

            My personal blacklist list:

            BBC
            The Guardian
            SANA
            Al Manar
            Fars TV
            IRIB
            Pars TV
            Ma’an

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            All the news you never like to see, right? :-)))))

          18. cook2half Avatar

            Yup, also Press TV. Blacklisted.

            SANA is blocked in Israel anyway, but you can access it in the UK.

          19. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            thats bcuz there is no freedom of speech just like in iran

          20. cook2half Avatar

            Wrong.

          21. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            wrongeen…

          22. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            what about f u k s news? or Hispan tv? ever heard of that b4?

          23. cook2half Avatar

            Fox News is the best, I highly recommend

          24. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah sure Cookie … all the ‘sensationalists’ are there for sure, creating their own news.

          25. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            ooowh my…

          26. cook2half Avatar

            Which news is your favorite?

          27. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            isnt that obvious? yalibnan D hhhhhhhhhh

          28. cook2half Avatar

            Yeah but most pieces are from Reuters. Anything more opinion based?

          29. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            my problem is that my opnion doesnt suit with any news agency

          30. cook2half Avatar

            Opinion is fine as long as its specified thats its an opinion piece.

          31. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            but i am somewhere in between anti jomhuri eslami and anti american

          32. cook2half Avatar

            Anti American? chera? lol, im anti Obama administration which isnt really American

          33. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            chonke amrika qhatelan. baraye hameen. mardomesh moghaseran ke in vahshiya ro entexab mikonan

          34. cook2half Avatar

            Khob dige, they are ‘superpower’, cant be so and be nice at the same time.

          35. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            age injoriye, dg regime eslami ham bayad ghabool konim, inna chonke zooreshoon ziyade nemitoonan xoob bashan

          36. cook2half Avatar

            I would never support the Islamic regime though, no matter what the circumstances. Ive lived happily under zionist rule, but who knows, one day ill have to go to my land of origin, and things need to be fixed.

          37. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            age bexay moghayeze koni, crime haye jomhuri esalmi, xeili kamtar az crime haye zionista o amrikaeeya hastan

          38. cook2half Avatar

            How? human rights in the country is fine.

          39. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            vali eib nadare bulldoze hameye keshvaraye hamsaye kone? een che no’e human rights-e?????? ya’ni falastinya human nistan? ya’ni lobnaniya human nistan???

          40. cook2half Avatar

            um, felstinia tooye Israel zendegee nemikonan. They are not Israeli citizens, and dont live on Israeli annexed land.

            Meslinke begee ke tooye emrika probleme human rights hast, chonke ye sarbaz tooye Afghanistan kare ghalat kard.

            Occupied territory doesnt count. You are confusing a country’s legal constitution, with respect for random people.

          41. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            baraye hamin man heechvaght supporte regime amrika o zionist nemikonam. chonke oona vaght fekre xodeshoonan. vaghte ke irooniya een regime nasty-o toye zebale rixtan o xeili ghodratmand shod bereem keshvaraye oona o pay back konim,

          42. cook2half Avatar

            magar alon een regime ‘payback’ nemikhad mekone?

          43. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            vaghte payback een regime nazdeeke. vaghti ke ma ye regime xoobe install kardim ba human rights, oon moghe berim amrika payback konim, chonke oona haghemoon baz ham xordan. yadet rafte amrika democra30 ro az ma bord?

          44. cook2half Avatar

            Israel valee kari nakard, that was the UK and U.S.

          45. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            israel dayman yeshaja3 amrika wal UK

          46. cook2half Avatar

            Israel at war with Lebanon
            France allies with Lebanon

            Does that make France an enemy of Israel?

            Politics is complicated

          47. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nobody is interrested where you spend your life…

          48. cook2half Avatar

            Saw the pictures I uploaded two days ago? like it? 😉

          49. man-o-war Avatar

            Your loss cook. When you limit what news you read, your picture of reality will only be half drawn. Maybe you like it that way. Your brain can fill in the empty space as it sees fit.

          50. cook2half Avatar

            lol, have you watched Iranian tv? its dripping with BS. Nevermind international events, im talking of internal domestic affairs. Delusional pricks.

          51. man-o-war Avatar

            What news outlets are not biased and occasionally drip with BS?

          52. cook2half Avatar

            There’s biased (and trust me, ive seen biased pieces that dont even pretend not to be biased), and then there’s lies and fairy tales.

          53. Lies and fairytales are what you post on here.

          54. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Almost ‘biblical’, right? :-))))

          55. cook2half Avatar

            John 1:1 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

          56. Haha good call

          57. cook2half Avatar

            zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

          58. IraniAngel Avatar
            IraniAngel

            where’s that pic from? in afghanistan?

          59. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hebron, where else?

          60. cook2half Avatar

            What radical settlers do is disgusting, and the State of Israel is against it.

            However, Arabs also spray hate speech on walls, just walk through east Jerusalem and see for yourself. Cherry picking specific events doesnt give the whole picture and is dishonest.

          61. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yes Crook they have 20% repesentatives in the knesset..

          62. cook2half Avatar

            And radicals have 100% representatives in the PLO, just read their charter.

          63. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, we know what Assad did to ‘graffiti artists’ don’t we …

          64. cook2half Avatar

            Yup, and when Hamza’s parents asked for their son to be released, Assad’s thugs told them “You want your kid? make more kids. And if you dont, we’ll teach you how its done”

          65. “What radical settlers do is disgusting, and the State of Israel is against it.”
            See? “Lies and fairytales”

          66. cook2half Avatar

            Nope, its the truth. Id rather have these ugly ultra orthodox freaks stay in the West Bank than to have them in mainland Israel and impose their religious garbage on us.

          67. Yes Israeli government is so against it that provides them housing and military escort when they choose to attack unarmed Palestinian villages.
            Like I said lies and fairytales. I have better things to do than waste time on your lies and fairytales.

          68. cook2half Avatar

            Providing homes and security means sending them to spray hate speech and harass people? Okay, lie and fairytales 101

          69. cook2half Avatar

            All 9/11 conspiracy theories rebutted:

            http://rationalwiki.ORG/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

          70. wargame1 Avatar

            I am not interested on that anymore. That incident happened then the whole world bombed Iraq and Afghanistan for many years and now its the Talibans turn to teach them a lesson. Have you found a rebuttal on the Lebanese restaurant attack in Afghanistan?

          71. cook2half Avatar

            Hezbushaitan paid them to attack in return for rocket attacks on Hermel

          72. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You got one from me, Dork.

          73. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Al Qaeda was invented in Saudi Arabia..not Iran, Osama be Laden a Saudi founded Al Qaeda.

          74. They should’ve invaded no country!

          75. man-o-war Avatar

            It would be nice, in a perfect world. Also, in a perfect world Saudi hijackers wouldn’t fly airplanes loaded with innocent civilians and use them as a missile, which is then shot at a building with thousands of more innocent civilians.

            Are they in heaven right now Barbie? Are you going to justify their actions by some wrong the Americans perpetrated against the Muslim world?

          76. When you learn to spell my name I will consider responding to your rant.

          77. And who the hell are to decide what type of government the Syrians want. I can tell they don’t want a bunch of backwards Jihadist lunatics that want to install Sharia law.

          78. wargame1 Avatar

            You have to fight your way through. Smart talking will not change the situation on the ground. Can you defeat the Taliban ? I dont think so. Can you defeat the Syrian sunni rebel? I dont think so. The Syrian sunnis are now fighting the Al-Qaeda so why do you use that same old sharia technique? Al-Qaeda was the last ace for the occupation force and every one including Iran played this card. But now Al-Qaeda is on the run and this card will not be effective much. Sharia card is obsolute now. How about Khelafa card ? Khelafa means succession. or manufacture something new….. Such as …They say Allah Hu Akhbar , they wear funny dress , they dont like education , they eat Kabab, They have beard etc. Lets see the effect.

          79. I’m not the one who decided, the Syrians did. Lol so now you’re the spokesperson for the Syrians. Have a good day. 🙂

        2. “Al qaeda to hang out in peace and plot world domination.”

          Please tell me that was a joke. If not then you’ve been watching too many Hollywood movies.
          Btw before the invasion of Afghanistan the Taliban offered to hand Osama to the Americans if the americans would provide the proof they claimed they linking Osama. Conveniently the Americans found the proof in a video at a random house after the invasion. The Taliban and the rest of the afghans didn’t deserve to be destroyed.

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            They did provide a safe haven for terrorist to train and plot, thats a fact. I agree the poor Afghanis were caught in the middle. They could have turned their guns on Al qaeda and kicked them out of their country.

            The Taliban suck, have you ever spoken to an Afghani how they feel about being ruled by the Taliban?

          2. I have said this already today but will say it one more time. The Taliban enjoyed majority support before the invasion.

          3. man-o-war Avatar

            That’s great! You can say that all you want, but it doesn’t mean its true.

          4. cook2half Avatar

            Qatar has an office for the Taliban, can you believe these people lol

        3. wargame1 Avatar

          Internet is not haram but the Pig meat is haram . Pig meat and Internet are not same thing

          1. man-o-war Avatar

            Mmmm…bacon!

          2. Patience2 Avatar

            You sound like Homer.

  3. It’s interesting that the UN has come out and condemed this attack and rightly so. But to avoid being viewed as biased or one sided it should also condemn attacks on civilians by the yanks. It appears the UN doesn’t want to upset its boss.

  4. It’s interesting that the UN has come out and condemed this attack and rightly so. But to avoid being viewed as biased or one sided it should also condemn attacks on civilians by the yanks. It appears the UN doesn’t want to upset its boss.

  5. Ban restaurants

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      You keep running around banning everything, I’m laying in a 50-yr supply of scotch.

      1. No restaurants = no attacks

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Drop the ‘Big One’. No people = no wars.

          1. Aliens

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And as for you ….
            I sat on a rooftop with friends enjoying a fine meal – in Tyre – beside one of those two-donkey streets between walls – in the shade from an old tree – still amazingly growing between that home and what had been the neighbour house, but which was now a huge hole in the ground. Made by an Israeli bomb.
            The Israelis came into Tyre, told the people to get out for awhile – bombed it – then told them they could go home.
            The house I was eating in had been cracked. The owner was theoretically not ‘allowed’ to live there because of ‘structural damage’ (I noticed the stairs a little off-level) …. but since no-one had offered ANY alternative, he fixed the ‘old family home’ up best he could and still lived there with his mother and family – ‘illegally’ in the mind of the Israelis who could come at any time to force him out if they chose to do so ‘for his protection’ from the damaged home.
            Behind the walls … friends find peace and quiet together … all good humans.
            Yet the ‘Sword of Damocles’ hung over the ‘spirit’ there at that time.
            As it still does …..
            That ANYONE exalts in ANY of this STUPIDITY makes me sick.

          3. This is for you, by Harper:

            “Let me repeat that: Canada supports Israel because it is right to do so,” he emphasized. “It is…a Canadian tradition to stand for what is principled and just, regardless of whether it is convenient or popular.”

            “The friendship between [Israel and Canada] is rooted in history, nourished by shared values, and it is intentionally reinforced at the highest levels of commerce and government as an outward expression of strongly held inner convictions,” Harper said in French and English.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes. So? You expect me to take a gun and shoot him even if I didn’t vote for him?
            Learn about democracy first. At least there’s only 4 parties vying for the ‘top’.
            And Canada IS part of the UN original concept … and NATO … and one HUGE reason you’re not speaking German-only too.
            It just doesn’t ‘crow’ about killing people all the time.

          5. Harper is truly an inspiration, im especially voting for him to stay. Too bad for you Canada has a zionist regime

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well for you guys, ANY western country has a zionist regime.
            Functional Flaptwaddle.

          7. lol, we all care for Israel’s security.

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            What ‘we’ care for, is NO MORE WARS.

          9. I appreciate your liberal views, but “no more wars” is applicable when ALL sides abide by it. Dropping your weapons when your enemy is armed doesnt bring peace.

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t say I wouldn’t punch you in the head if you were close enough and coming for me. You might be younger, and I could lose, but you WILL hurt.
            I’ll Keep the liberal small ‘l’ – not the big … but I’m also a socialist … and conservative in many parts of my personal life.
            And Canada didn’t ‘drop’ all it’s weapons even if Liberals want to. And it told the Yanks to keep their nukes south of the border even if a needed partner in the NORAD team. It redefines what it’s philosophy is … and stands by it.
            You start with the concept … no wars. Then figure out how to do it without having a war. Too simple for some to start from that premise, it seems, but much better to have in the mind FIRST.

          11. The days of armies fighting one another, then meeting up to sort a peace are long over. We, Israelis and Lebanese and Syrians etc, are dealing with a new enemy. You cant make peace with terrorists.

            You want world peace? start with fixing this:

            Quran (Bukhari 52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Damn good thing I started out as a Christian then … I’d hate to have rocks whispering at me all the time.
            And all we talked about here today is ‘History’. Including yesterday.
            Educate to have a tomorrow.

          13. I have nothing against Muslims though

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Parasite2half..

          15. He’s offered to absorb palestinian “refugees” (their descendants rather) to Canada LOLOL

          16. Hezbollah shouldnt have started a war I guess, oh well.

            Israel love making a mess in Lebanon, and from what ive been told, if Hezbollah starts another war, every man, woman, and child in Lebanon is a target.

            Dont hurt our civilians, and you’ll be safe.

          17. man-o-war Avatar

            “Israel love making a mess in Lebanon, and from what ive been told, if Hezbollah starts another war, every man, woman, and child in Lebanon is a target.”

            What’s new cook2long? Are you trying to threaten Lebanese people on a Lebanese news outlet?

          18. No, im not. Im pro Arab regimes and love Arab people in surrounding countries. If Israel commits a crime in Lebanon, im against it (though doesnt make me ‘anti-Israel’ as I put things in context). My hateful language is solely against the Arabs who call themselves palestinians, no one else.

          19. man-o-war Avatar

            How about you tell whoever told you that to try and target the women and children first. They will be much easier targets for you, then when your chest is all puffed up you can try to go after the real fighters.

          20. Listen, the problem the Israeli airforce has is that Hezbollah shoots rockets from populated areas (surprise surprised, Hamas and Syrian jihadists do the same). Yes, it is wrong to target civilians, but for how long are you going to sit and watch rockets hit Israeli cities and kill Israeli civilians, and do nothing in the name of Lebanese civilians?

            Ethical dilemma, and Hezbushaitan is aware of it. The message at hand is that these tactics by the shaitan wont protect them no more.

          21. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes, they did that, or stored stuff under apts. … but not from under oil-storage tanks that were emptied into the ocean by Israel – which then prevented environmentalists in the attempts to ‘clean up’ a mess.
            Once the ‘blood is up’, ALL those ‘ tribes ‘ including Israel just go at it willy-nilly – the ‘revenge factors’ are the highest order of priority – and years later you drag up the past to prevent the future … ad infinitum.
            Change? It’s an unknown word.

          22. Israel committed crimes in that war. I could hear Israeli artillery 50 km away from the border, must have deafened people in Lebanon.

            Unfortunately, no one cares. Its only when Israel builds a kindergarten in the West Bank, or responds to rocket attacks by Islamic Jihad, that the condemnation begins.

          23. man-o-war Avatar

            Power stations, major roadways and bridges, and so on. They ran out of HA targets that really didn’t even diminish their capability to fire rockets at Israel. They are guilty of collective punishment in Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank.

          24. Well u would be safe seeing u r not people. :p

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes. Safe from the kiddies on here for sure … gone. (they get worse all the time)
            And don’t tell me not to ‘bother’ poor ‘wargame1’ after this round on here about the Talibanies … anyone who thinks ANYTHING they have done since they invaded Pakistan and Afghanistan is remotely ‘lovely’ and ‘wonderful’ needs his head read. Their Boko Haram children are just as bad. Anti-Human animals.

          26. I did apologise. 🙁
            On another subject, the Taliban invaded Afghanistan?

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar

            “It spread from Pakistan into Afghanistan and formed a government, ruling as the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from September 1996 until December 2001, with Kandahar as the capital.”

          28. But you said they invaded Pakistan too. So where did they come from? And how were they able to invade Afghanistan when two world powers couldn’t?

          29. We’re not trying to ‘invade’ Afghanistan, we want to establish order there with the help of the government.

            If you’re talking of invasion, then the U.S. already successfully invaded Iraq in just 3 weeks; something Khomeini couldn’t do in 8 years.

          30. Claiming “mission accomplished” for publicity and actual accomplishing the mission are two different things hence the “surge” in 2007. And when did they leave? Don’t even know why I bother with you you are unbearable. If I have kids and they turn out like you I’m adopting them out.
            And what is this “we”? Is Israel in Afghanistan!

          31. Oh thanks akhmed, coming from you thats almost a compliment

          32. I notice when you have been caught out after making silly statements u avoid the subject and disappear for a while. And this is what Israeli hasbara pays for.

          33. I had to go out, return a book to the library and go to the bank, some lunch on the way. People are busy some days, sorry for not giving you more attention.

          34. So u did all that and somehow managed to come back 5 minutes after your last post? Wow
            But as I said its something u do on a regular basis. Make a run for it or try changing the subject. What happened to ur claimed 3 weeks to occupy Iraq?
            Sorry it was 8 minutes.

          35. “Don’t even know why I bother with you you are unbearable. If I have kids and they turn out like you I’m adopting them out.”

            Okay, so thats relevant to the subject?

          36. I see u r still avoiding and deflecting.

          37. Ok, I guess you just had to slip that out on the side
            الواحد مرات مجبور يفتح قلبه ويعبر عن شعوره (sarcasm)

            Overthrowing Saddam = mission accomplished
            Establishing a new regime = entirely different topic

          38. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Said the hypocrite who doesn’t dare answering questions that embarrasses the living out of him…

          39. Oh and nice u mention Khomeini, the guy Israel was supplying weapons to from America.

          40. lol..

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ask a Muslim brain … not mine.

          42. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Somebody elected Hitler too. Sometimes, humans make dreadful mistakes,

        2. No you = no stupidity. -:)

          1. Just trying to help

      2. Patience2 Avatar

        Old Suntory?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Kirin. But i actually like warmed rice-wine. 😉
          (scotch later)

  6. cook2half Avatar

    Ban restaurants

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      You keep running around banning everything, I’m laying in a 50-yr supply of scotch.

      1. cook2half Avatar

        No restaurants = no attacks

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Drop the ‘Big One’. No people = no wars.

          1. cook2half Avatar

            Aliens

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And as for you ….
            I sat on a rooftop with friends enjoying a fine meal – in Tyre – beside one of those two-donkey streets between walls – in the shade from an old tree – still amazingly growing between that home and what had been the neighbour house, but which was now a huge hole in the ground. Made by an Israeli bomb.
            The Israelis came into Tyre, told the people to get out for awhile – bombed it – then told them they could go home.
            The house I was eating in had been cracked. The owner was theoretically not ‘allowed’ to live there because of ‘structural damage’ (I noticed the stairs a little off-level) …. but since no-one had offered ANY alternative, he fixed the ‘old family home’ up best he could and still lived there with his mother and family – ‘illegally’ in the mind of the Israelis who could come at any time to force him out if they chose to do so ‘for his protection’ from the damaged home.
            Behind the walls … friends find peace and quiet together … all good humans.
            Yet the ‘Sword of Damocles’ hung over the ‘spirit’ there at that time.
            As it still does …..
            That ANYONE exalts in ANY of this STUPIDITY makes me sick.

          3. cook2half Avatar

            This is for you, by Harper:

            “Let me repeat that: Canada supports Israel because it is right to do so,” he emphasized. “It is…a Canadian tradition to stand for what is principled and just, regardless of whether it is convenient or popular.”

            “The friendship between [Israel and Canada] is rooted in history, nourished by shared values, and it is intentionally reinforced at the highest levels of commerce and government as an outward expression of strongly held inner convictions,” Harper said in French and English.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes. So? You expect me to take a gun and shoot him even if I didn’t vote for him?
            Learn about democracy first. At least there’s only 4 parties vying for the ‘top’.
            And Canada IS part of the UN original concept … and NATO … and one HUGE reason you’re not speaking German-only too.
            It just doesn’t ‘crow’ about killing people all the time.

          5. cook2half Avatar

            Harper is truly an inspiration, im especially voting for him to stay. Too bad for you Canada has a zionist regime

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well for you guys, ANY western country has a zionist regime.
            Functional Flaptwaddle.

          7. cook2half Avatar

            lol, we all care for Israel’s security.

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            What ‘we’ care for, is NO MORE WARS.

          9. cook2half Avatar

            I appreciate your liberal views, but “no more wars” is applicable when ALL sides abide by it. Dropping your weapons when your enemy is armed doesnt bring peace.

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t say I wouldn’t punch you in the head if you were close enough and coming for me. You might be younger, and I could lose, but you WILL hurt.
            I’ll Keep the liberal small ‘l’ – not the big … but I’m also a socialist … and conservative in many parts of my personal life.
            And Canada didn’t ‘drop’ all it’s weapons even if Liberals want to. And it told the Yanks to keep their nukes south of the border even if a needed partner in the NORAD team. It redefines what it’s philosophy is … and stands by it.
            You start with the concept … no wars. Then figure out how to do it without having a war. Too simple for some to start from that premise, it seems, but much better to have in the mind FIRST.

          11. cook2half Avatar

            The days of armies fighting one another, then meeting up to sort a peace are long over. We, Israelis and Lebanese and Syrians etc, are dealing with a new enemy. You cant make peace with terrorists.

            You want world peace? start with fixing this:

            Quran (Bukhari 52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Damn good thing I started out as a Christian then … I’d hate to have rocks whispering at me all the time.
            And all we talked about here today is ‘History’. Including yesterday.
            Educate to have a tomorrow.

          13. cook2half Avatar

            I have nothing against Muslims though

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Parasite2half..

          15. cook2half Avatar

            He’s offered to absorb palestinian “refugees” (their descendants rather) to Canada LOLOL

          16. cook2half Avatar

            Hezbollah shouldnt have started a war I guess, oh well.

            Israel love making a mess in Lebanon, and from what ive been told, if Hezbollah starts another war, every man, woman, and child in Lebanon is a target.

            Dont hurt our civilians, and you’ll be safe.

          17. man-o-war Avatar

            “Israel love making a mess in Lebanon, and from what ive been told, if Hezbollah starts another war, every man, woman, and child in Lebanon is a target.”

            What’s new cook2long? Are you trying to threaten Lebanese people on a Lebanese news outlet?

          18. cook2half Avatar

            No, im not. Im pro Arab regimes and love Arab people in surrounding countries. If Israel commits a crime in Lebanon, im against it (though doesnt make me ‘anti-Israel’ as I put things in context). My hateful language is solely against the Arabs who call themselves palestinians, no one else.

          19. man-o-war Avatar

            How about you tell whoever told you that to try and target the women and children first. They will be much easier targets for you, then when your chest is all puffed up you can try to go after the real fighters.

          20. cook2half Avatar

            Listen, the problem the Israeli airforce has is that Hezbollah shoots rockets from populated areas (surprise surprised, Hamas and Syrian jihadists do the same). Yes, it is wrong to target civilians, but for how long are you going to sit and watch rockets hit Israeli cities and kill Israeli civilians, and do nothing in the name of Lebanese civilians?

            Ethical dilemma, and Hezbushaitan is aware of it. The message at hand is that these tactics by the shaitan wont protect them no more.

          21. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes, they did that, or stored stuff under apts. … but not from under oil-storage tanks that were emptied into the ocean by Israel – which then prevented environmentalists in the attempts to ‘clean up’ a mess.
            Once the ‘blood is up’, ALL those ‘ tribes ‘ including Israel just go at it willy-nilly – the ‘revenge factors’ are the highest order of priority – and years later you drag up the past to prevent the future … ad infinitum.
            Change? It’s an unknown word.

          22. cook2half Avatar

            Israel committed crimes in that war. I could hear Israeli artillery 50 km away from the border, must have deafened people in Lebanon.

            Unfortunately, no one cares. Its only when Israel builds a kindergarten in the West Bank, or responds to rocket attacks by Islamic Jihad, that the condemnation begins.

          23. man-o-war Avatar

            Power stations, major roadways and bridges, and so on. They ran out of HA targets that really didn’t even diminish their capability to fire rockets at Israel. They are guilty of collective punishment in Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank.

          24. Well u would be safe seeing u r not people. :p

          25. cook2half Avatar

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes. Safe from the kiddies on here for sure … gone. (they get worse all the time)
            And don’t tell me not to ‘bother’ poor ‘wargame1’ after this round on here about the Talibanies … anyone who thinks ANYTHING they have done since they invaded Pakistan and Afghanistan is remotely ‘lovely’ and ‘wonderful’ needs his head read.

          27. I did apologise. 🙁
            On another subject, the Taliban invaded Afghanistan?

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar

            “It spread from Pakistan into Afghanistan and formed a government, ruling as the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from September 1996 until December 2001, with Kandahar as the capital.”

          29. But you said they invaded Pakistan too. So where did they come from? And how were they able to invade Afghanistan when two world powers couldn’t?

          30. cook2half Avatar

            We’re not trying to ‘invade’ Afghanistan, we want to establish order there with the help of the government.

            If you’re talking of invasion, then the U.S. already successfully invaded Iraq in just 3 weeks; something Khomeini couldn’t do in 8 years.

          31. Claiming “mission accomplished” for publicity and actual accomplishing the mission are two different things hence the “surge” in 2007. And when did they leave? Don’t even know why I bother with you you are unbearable. If I have kids and they turn out like you I’m adopting them out.
            And what is this “we”? Is Israel in Afghanistan!

          32. cook2half Avatar

            Oh thanks akhmed, coming from you thats almost a compliment

          33. I notice when you have been caught out after making silly statements u avoid the subject and disappear for a while. And this is what Israeli hasbara pays for.

          34. cook2half Avatar

            I had to go out, return a book to the library and go to the bank, some lunch on the way. People are busy some days, sorry for not giving you more attention.

          35. So u did all that and somehow managed to come back 5 minutes after your last post? Wow
            But as I said its something u do on a regular basis. Make a run for it or try changing the subject. What happened to ur claimed 3 weeks to occupy Iraq?
            Sorry it was 8 minutes.

          36. cook2half Avatar

            “Don’t even know why I bother with you you are unbearable. If I have kids and they turn out like you I’m adopting them out.”

            Okay, so thats relevant to the subject?

          37. I see u r still avoiding and deflecting.

          38. cook2half Avatar

            Ok, I guess you just had to slip that out on the side
            الواحد مرات مجبور يفتح قلبه ويعبر عن شعوره (sarcasm)

            Overthrowing Saddam = mission accomplished
            Establishing a new regime = entirely different topic

          39. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Said the hypocrite who doesn’t dare answering questions that embarrasses the living out of him…

          40. Oh and nice u mention Khomeini, the guy Israel was supplying weapons to from America.

          41. cook2half Avatar

            lol..

          42. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ask a Muslim brain … not mine.

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Somebody elected Hitler too. Sometimes, humans make dreadful mistakes,

        2. No you = no stupidity. -:)

          1. cook2half Avatar

            Just trying to help

      2. Patience2 Avatar

        Old Suntory?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Kirin. But i actually like warmed rice-wine. 😉
          (scotch later)

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