Arsal residents accuse Hezbollah of rocket attack

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qaa arsal map lebanonThe residents of Arsal on Friday accused Hezbollah of carrying out the rocket attack that targeted their eastern Beqaa town earlier in the day and resulted in killing nine civilians, seven of them children and injuring 14 others.
“Hezbollah has finally done it and we were not surprised by this because this is Hezbollah’sreality,” Arsal locals said in a statement issued on Friday.

They continued: “We are against killing civilians, we are against the acts of the Syrian regime and we are against Hezbollah and their methods of killing innocent civilians.”

The residents of the Beqaa town vowed that they will defend their “blood, dignity, children and families.”

Arsal’s deputy mayor, Ahmad Fleeti, told NOW that he received information the mortars were fired from outside the northern Beqaa town of Al-Qaa near a Hezbollah position.

 

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141 responses to “Arsal residents accuse Hezbollah of rocket attack”

  1. The shaitan aims and kills lebanese

    1. So u are admitting Israel is the shaitan! First step to recovery is admitting ur problem. Israel has aimed and killed Lebanese, so you and hezballah and Syria and Iran and Iraq have more than u think in common.

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        What you said just about right…They all want to suffocate Lebanon..

      2. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        What you said just about right…They all want to suffocate Lebanon..

        1. master09 Avatar

          The only f..cs who are strangling Lebanon are the Lebs and the little armies that are thier. What the F..c do the Jews want from Lebanon if these clowns are not pointing the weapons at them and all they talk about is distroying the Jews. Oh maybe they want to steal our hummus recipe. Wake up make peace with the Jews and Lebanon will be paradise and people will make more money and have more work than they will ever dream of. Tourist do not want to come because of the shit these groups are doing in Lebanon. Stop blaming everyone else and yes we are perfect. The enemy is within. Simple facts.

          1. If Israel doesn’t want anything from Lebanon then return Sheba farms.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That was Syrian.

          3. Some say the whole of Lebanon was Syrian

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            This 1851 mappe of Syria, i don’t consider old but i have the same hand colored, scribled mapps have no value, mine colors happen to change designing lines of Zionist motto..from the Euphraetus etc.. the idea has been tougth before any project. Karl Marks wrote : The Disturbances in Syria, wich were about the 1860 massacres in Lebanon.

          5. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            There is a huge difference between educated people and uneducated morons. People who have nothing always try and steal other cultures popularity!

          6. So ur sAying Israelis r uneducated morons. And here I was thinking you loved them.

          7. man-o-war Avatar

            Or was it?

          8. I will leave that argument to the resident historians. Already seen how big a topic that was on here.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Not even my magnifying glass can pick out the names …. the camels seem accurate … and Mary and Joseph there on the right side ….
            But I find it interesting that the coastline is almost a dead match to the modern one in colour … so I’d guess Everything on the coast was Syrian, and the rest was Iraq’s desert. (no dimensional alterations done)
            Hmmmm … maybe someone should tell the Saudis they have to move out too because Hind found that everything on the coast was Syrian … and the refugees in Jordan can’t feel safe there any more.
            But it DOES show Sheba Farms were Syrian. :-)))

          10. “But it DOES show Sheba Farms were Syrian. :-)))”

            Obviously before Syria was carved up by the French.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which was done to save Christians. And WE all know that TOO.
            Problem was, the French left, and ‘those Syrians’ just couldn’t let it alone.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Why..that’s most funny a grand aunt said
            “the French sucked our blood “they took everything they didn’t leave a pin!!”.
            (has nothing to do with politics)..

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            All ‘Conquerors’ rape and pillage don’t they? But then, they left.
            You’d think some folks could remake a pin or two …..

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It was oriental culture expression by an old lady, cant you respect that?
            She lived in 1930- 40’s trough famine, thyfoide epidemies even being from
            a whealty family, its childhood memories, you are verry agressive.
            .

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Its was an oriental cultural expression i said by an old lady. she lived trough
            30-40s famine and epidemies became deaf from typhoide. even if she was
            from a weathy familly, these are childhood memory.

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok Hind. I see it …. now… ‘some’ file in their desperate thoughts so fast and often the items here float out of sight quickly. ;-))
            All times of human misery and distress are bad. Especially for those with no-where to go and no-one to turn to. Similar today to some friends in Tripoli stuck with the damn place, listening at night to the fighting, no money for medications for the flu or any other affliction, in a place with no ‘care’ let alone for health – and always low on food and water.
            My grandparents and mother suffered similarly … family stories not written in books … Although I WOULD recommend 2 books by Barry Broadfoot (Canadian) who travelled across the country recording the real stories of ‘the common people’ and their experiences …. ‘TEN LOST YEARS’ and ‘SIX WAR YEARS’ …. which tell more about human tragedy and moral triumph than any ‘news’ or ‘dry historical account’ ever could.
            I am sadly certain these have not become ‘required reading’ by the kiddies in the vaunted scholastic halls – which are now afraid to talk about ANY morality lest they damage someone’s delicate sensitivities – although the words in them ARE the truth of the people.
            Excuse me for being aggressive about some things …. I admit it.

            And while being books of Canadian Experience, they are really anyone’s who has been in the same circumstances of abject poverty, or in a war. Survival. #1

          17. Actually according to history books there was one that never raped and pillaged when conquering. Not gonna tell u the name, leave up to u to figure it out 🙂

          18. man-o-war Avatar

            If you’re referring to the wars led by the Prophet, you’re wrong. They were allowed to capture the women and take them as their slaves.

          19. Do you make it a habit to state things you know nothing about to come across as wise?

          20. man-o-war Avatar

            Yes! That’s exactly what I like to do. I have to figure out a new technique to seem wise.

            Since you left it up for people to figure out, I just picked someone. Did I pick the wrong choice, or was I wrong about what actually happened during those battles.

          21. man-o-war Avatar

            Please tell us Barbie who you claim conquered without raping and pillaging. Since your so wise can you also direct us in the right direction, so we can do a little research on the matter.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Kublai Khan – Yuan Dynasty. Used TAXES mostly.
            Better to have a working, paying, populace with intact infrastructure. 😉
            Take out the stupid ‘Heads’, and offer protection to the people. :-)))

            Interesting DEMOCRATIC footnote to the actions of those times … in what we now call Vietnam.
            “The Trần king assembled all his citizens allowing all to vote on whether to surrender to the Yuan, or stand and fight for their homeland. The vote was a unanimous decision to stand and fight the invaders.”
            China hasn’t liked that method since. :-))))))

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            What have “those Syrians” to do with the Druses and the 1860 massacres on the Mountain..

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            France created institutions, schools, convents etc..
            for the Christians in Midlle East, since the Crusaders.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Where, I assume, the ‘lesson plans’ were updated as they were in France?

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Please, i really don’t understand jokes or sarcasmes i’m too conventional
            and acostumed to serious discussions, you’re a good writer don’t be lazy.

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar

            After ‘wargame1’ today, I want to be very lazy and join Prophetttt in semi-retirement … 😉 But I will expand a little.
            I could not imagine studying under a crusader-mentality … horror.
            But through the ages, and as history developed, those ‘Institutions and schools’ you now love to hate did not stay with the crusader as teacher – or with his books. I would like to think the ‘modern world’ injected itself along the way? And the history of the crusades came along too, for references .
            Did the ‘Syrian Culture’ disappear? Completely? Under the French education, and it’s system of thought, has everyone truly suffered from that education?
            I’d bet a tiny bit even rubbed off on some Muslims. ;-))))))

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Those “Institutions and Schools” you now love to hate..this i don’t
            understand, would you love to hate the childhood that shaped your life,
            while growing up? books you read, the little songs you learned, the poems
            and texts you had to memorise, i still can recite by memory some from
            “les fables de Lafontaine..i was 8.

            Nobody studied with Crusaders mercenaries…:(((

            The Syrian Christians culture never disappeared its disapearing now before
            our eyes, nobody cares, its Israel-US-Saudi-Plan.
            I still have the 2011 Paris article of Al Rahi visite (invited), Sarkozy told him; “prepare your people for an Exodus to Europe, the Western powers will invade
            the ME”. Children were gazed in Ghouta for the invasion, Israeli papers show
            them lobying in the US for War on Syria.. as here.

          29. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Hello Hind,
            I just wanted to send a friendly Hello your way and agree with you that a childhood is one of the most powerful and shaping experiences anyone can have, sadly it can go either way . Good night to you and all 🙂

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hello geo, thank you i’m happy you read it you’re the best. Good nigth to you 🙂

          31. From memory the Syrian dictator even said Sheba farms were part of Lebanon. So Lebanon claims Sheba farms is its territory and the Syrian dictator agrees but Israel wants to decide who owns the land it is occupying.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            As did the Lebanese.

          33. “As did the Lebanese”

            I did say Lebanon claimed it was their territory meaning the Lebanese.
            Btw you managed to steer the subject away from Israeli occupation of Lebanese territory real smoothly. 🙂

          34. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (Shhhh barabie … don’t want anyone to know I tricked them into stopping yelling at each other long enough to possibly think. ;-))
            (P.S. When I said ‘Lebanese’, I didn’t necessarily mean ‘Lebanon’. shhhh)

          35. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Sheba farms were part of Lebanon as Lebanon was a Mountain in Syria.
            Please tell abhorrorligine to take a cold shower and calm down pffhhhaha..!

          36. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And ‘who’ is Syrian?

          37. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The Syrians if you’re Serious.

          38. 5thDrawer Avatar

            At the moment they are totally confused, it seems, just like ‘the Lebanese’.

          39. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            put yousrelf at their place invaded by thugs mercenaries talibans the west
            dictator refuses anyone to go help, if Egypt Army would go its not the West businesssszzzz good nigth its 3 am.

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You gave me a really funny puzzel with that mappe on the rigth.

            I couldn’ read a thing on the Copy its from google, but i happen to own two,
            Syria and Egypt (colored) by myself (Syria) is not finished..i’m an Art restaurer colorist and expert on ancient paper, paintings, water colors, seldom mappes,
            my clients are famous Art collectors and i’m proud to say a Federal Senator benefactor to mtl Musem of Fine arts, trusts me with his 17th century collection:)

            Coast lines never change, why you find it “curious” they don’t?

            The map on the rigth is disproportionaty big, Irak is ex-Mesopotamia in Syria
            on the left, British changed the names in WW1. Below is Arabia not Saudi till WW1. Jordan is nowhere on the left, it was just a river called Jordan.
            The east East-Banc of River Jordan- “Shark el Ordon” in Arabic still, it became home to the Hashemite, after ibn Saud conquered Arabia in WW1.
            Syria’s borders end in Al Arish on the left.Up in the the caravan is Asia Minor (Armenia) today Eastern Turkey.

            The Desert of Syria was called Desert of Sham or Shem in Aramean,
            Sham is Damascus in Arabic..ouff ! And i didn’t say Arabia was Syria.
            I’am so sorry if it causes political problems, but yes, of course all the
            coast was Syria – Palestine
            What’s the mappe on the rigth doing there (??)

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hind … It is not ‘on the right’ … Your black-line map overlays a new one from another story. Yours is on top of the new … and without changing anything on either except the transparency of yours, I simply matched up the shorelines …. I was surprised that a ‘mapper’ from 1860 got it that close – at least, where where Lebanon is. (perhaps a Lebanese ‘map-artist’? :-)) Although, yes, ‘surveying’ had been invented and some surveyors were meticulous. Ship Captains went by measurements of sun or moon … etc.
            Perhaps you should conclude that something was ‘surveyed’ … and the rest surmised? What is the scale? Was the curve of the earth ‘adjusted’ for either one to be displayed on a flat surface? Many maps were artistic renderings from eye-views, or estimates of distance in time of travel … and some still are. Even a view from space has a ‘fall-off’ – is the foreshortening north/south, or east/west?
            But up there at Turkey you can see shoreline changes …
            And ‘The Med’ looks curious to me … is that Cyprus or Italy on the left??
            And I can’t be sure the bottom matches anything because it wasn’t on the coloured one. So, there we go … 🙂 Everyone has an ancient map. 🙂
            Basically, I think all of them should be called ‘renditions’ if they were not done with modern methods. But that’s me. 😉
            You should see the first ones of the ‘New World’. :-)))))
            But maybe you have.
            Nice career anyway … restorations. No deadlines I’m sure.
            (And I hope the ‘senator’ isn’t Mike Duffy … hehehehe)

            By the way, but related in a sense, I have a Chinese ‘Bark Painting’ which I always thought was ‘fanciful’ … until I saw a real picture of the ‘Seven Star Cliffs’ tourist area … wow, I think now … pretty good. :-))
            (Although I wouldn’t base a legal ‘border’ on that either ..)

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Before i answer i want to know what’s the map on the right, what shores, where are the shore lines that match, its dificult to understand, in the smaller you can see it on the upper rigth corner, were they made space for the cartouch, thats Mosopotamia-Irrrak, its a small scale English map, The north is Armenia, the south is Arabia (i knowt by heart, West is Cyprus, in a clear day i could see a faint line on the horizon, i see no Italy only the medit….nn bonne nuit…xzzzzz

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh Crap … fill up a page … here’s the ‘modern’ colour one … put yours on top of it … match the shore lines … result is the previous one I sent. Geezzzz …..
            (women !!)
            And you don’t have to answer anything.

          44. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It’s not “crap” you were sarcastic, no reason mocking me telling eveybody
            “so i’d guess Everything on the coast was Syria and the rest, was Iraki’s desert”.

            Why? 1852 is simply Syria before WW1, the modern separates Mesopotamia (Irak) from Syria adds Jordan not yet created, part of the Palestinian Territories
            in the British Mandate for Palestine”

            See the old Syrian borders? They went down to Egypt’ borders Al Arish, before colonisers drew lines and changed names in the Midlle East, not the fault of ancient mapps and historians, not mine, Mesopotamia and Babylon (modern Irak) were in greater Syria, since 6000yrs untill WW1. It’s intelectualy dificult for me to understand the general animosity..and the 5th “sarcasme” 🙂

          45. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            So Lebanon was in Syria or it never was? Zionist fake Lebanese blast me for saying that.

          46. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Maps can be drawn you Mongaloid, especially if they were done under ssnp supervision. Lebanon was never part of modern day syria, get it through your thick skull. How dare you bring in socialist baath ideologies into Lebanon?? Who the hell do you think you are?? Go and regurgitate this crap in syria where people will actually believe you. You are trying to claim our history, our cuisine and now you want to claim our land. I am yet to see what your point is. People and countries change with time unlike your beloved fake syria that has been in a hole for way too long. Go and martyr yourself for the Christian syrians who never gave a stuff about us. What an imbecile!!

          47. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Maybe everyone should have asked the now-gone farmers where they wanted to be paying their taxes ….

          48. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Go buy a Tallis mappe (very rare) tell the antic shop it is redrawn HaH.ahha..!, poor poor man.

          49. Can u say anything without swearing? Shows a certain lack of ……

      3. master09 Avatar

        Wake up you clown the Arabs kill each other more than 100 hundred other countries put together. One fact is Syria Arabs fu..CSS killing Arab Fu..cs. But because you Arabs are so brainwashed by your imams and clerics you can’t get your heads out of the boiling sand. Stop f…N pointing fingers and start looking in the mirror. I am Lebanese but the facts are the facts. Who killed more Lebanese tell me during the war the Jews or the Lebs Nd the PLO , talk facts. You Arabs ALL from top to bottom from side to the other are the same, backward clowns stuck in some time warp. Arabs hate each other more than they hate the Jews. This is why the ME will be f…ced up forever because all they can do is blame the Jews for everything fart that smells.

        1. First of all Syria was mentioned so ur trying to throw that in doesn’t work. Secondly where are your verifiable numbers? Thirdly your comment proves you are not Arab but a Zionist.
          And lastly even if the numbers of dead were greater in Arab on Arab than Israel, that doesn’t diminish the fact Israel is a murderer.

          1. master09 Avatar

            First Syrians killed and kidnapped more Lebs than Israel , fact and I never said Isreal never killed but we are talking war against another country that is the position Israel was and will always be in that position. Syria banged Lebanon in the ass and are still banging it in the Ass and if you can’t see that than that sand must be so hot on your ears. I am not an Arab but a Lebanese and just because I say facts does not make me a Zionist . The problem with you ArAbs as soon as someone looks at a Jew he becomes a Zionist get a life facts are facts. So can you you me facts on who killed more Lebs, the Jews or the PLO, Syrian army and the Lebs together, I lived in that and saw what was going on and who pointed the guns at who. I remember when the Leb factions used to cut the heads of and parade them on the back of jeeps. So don’t tell me I am not Leb because I speak facts not hate.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hey stop dripping hate you’re inoundating my space, talking machine..

          3. master09 Avatar

            Lol can’t take the truth. I am dripping hate show me where I drip hate please show me. In all I say u miss the whole point because u have soo much hate in your heart and all I am saying is why can we not have peace in Lebanon. Wake up and look in the mirror who has hate. Downies for facts wow. The brainwashed will all be and the facts will always be. Simple bla bla bla. When I see my child having problems or issues or making problems for others what do you think I would do. Many parents will hide and lie to others to hide the facts, I know what I would do, WHAT would you do. ???? I smell like a Zionist now don’t I. Lol they call me the think machine , lol

          4. man-o-war Avatar

            If you would just present your facts and opinions in a less abrasive manner people may just listen. Rather, you scream and call names. F this and F that, clowns this and clown that. Your point gets lost when you post such comments, maybe try toning it down and quit pointing fingers as if “we” Arabs committed these atrocities you mention.

          5. master09 Avatar

            It’s facts they did do all the above. Look at history and look at what is happening today around you. It’s facts

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          It smells Zionist to high heaven…4 fu? Typical Zionists language same
          talking points all over your fake Lebanese face.. why the need to be Lebanese?.

          1. master09 Avatar

            Facts nothing more. Tell me if these groups stop pointing guns at the Jews would that not be better for us. Second tell me where I am wrong that Syria PLO and the Lebs killed more more Lebanese together ten fold than the Jews did. How is it because I am talking facts make me a Zionist. All I want for my country is for these groups to give up their weapons and than see how Lebanon will live in peace. No the problem is no one wants peace that is why government inject hate words into your blood so even if I look at a Jew I am a Zionist. All I want is peace to be given a chance without these weapons. I care 0 if you think I am not Lebanese for talking FACTS. Lol

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            But i don’t care 0. I’m not adressing how many were killed in the past i’m adressing the futur the Fact is there’s a Plan, Zionists are working hard to promote as fake Lebanese and that’s serious..nobody is adressing because of alliances as it has always ben in Lebanon history, i’m not oblivious.

            You talk about peace.. it will Never happen, there are Plans for the futur of
            the entire Midlle East, since a long time in the European capitals were Jews had their homeland, were they worked towards the Midlle East planifications.
            It did not start by the Holocaust.

            A Likudist assasinated Rabin with the blessing of Grand Rabbi.
            Jews are a race not a religion, don’t say Zionism is Judaism, Sion the religion was hijacked by the creators of the Zionist Movement.. many Zionists say openly on the Jewish media that they knew about Rabin assasination, and
            didn’t report it before it happend.

            All this is not for the advantage of Lebanon or the ME already in ruins,
            the complexity of the many sects and religions was scrutinised in the European capitals, after the 1860 Massacre in Lebanon Mountain..
            Its by creating sectarianism Israel have weekened or destroyed their neighboring countries, in Palestinian social fabric there were no cleavages..Raphael Eytan, Begin, Sharon, Shamir created Hamas.

          3. master09 Avatar

            Just like they created HA. But you missed the point I am making past or future the Arabs have a choice. Put money in their hand and they kill thier own father so tell why? We have a chose for a better future stop pointing fingers and push our government to think for our country not rape it for the sake of money. You see the Jews are smart give a dollar for a country, I would be doing the same and so would you to have control and save your ass. WE HAVE A CHOSE. The Lebs have a brain or DO they, lol. Maybe the Zionist should think for them. Lol

          4. master09 Avatar

            Tell me how many young Lebanese are sitting in Syrian jails or are now dead taken from their family for protecting Lebanon. Facts again. Why did the PLO fire 10000s of rockets from our land onto the Jews , do you want the Jews to just sit and watch. Tell me how many Lebs did the PLO kill. Tell me how many Lebs kill each other, that is what my subject is about. We are out own worst enemy and we kill each other because we are Sunni or Christian or because we pray another way that is what I am talking about. Do the Jews kill each other NO that is what I am talking about. We need to solve our problem ourselves and stop pointing fingers and I tell you Lebanon will be paradise, but that want happen with Syria and HA playing with guns on our land. You are talking hate I am talking simple FACTS. Can’t wait for my downi points and like I give a shit.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            To make your story short…look what Israel & Wahabi Allies pay Jihadis from
            all over the world to kill and destroy in Syria.

          6. master09 Avatar

            But you still did not like the others talk about how in Lebanon more Lebs died from the hands of the three I mention and not just the Jewish army. You are just making my story even more facts. If I give you a million dollars would you kill your dad, I would say no so that makes the Arabs even more scum to take money or what ever you call it to kill even more Arabs. You see my point is an Aeab will kill thier own even for no money but does a Jew. Second how many Lebanese did the PLO kill you like everyone run from that fact. Three how many did Syria kill you also run and change the subject. Last and the worst part is HOW many did Lebs kill of thier own. One story I will tell you my uncle drove a taxi gend alah a Lebanese faction in the 70s accused him of being a spy because he drove up and down same area toooo many times, we got him back in 50 FKN peaces in a bag. Tell me who are more killing more of thier own the Arabs or the Jews and stop giving me pictures I witnessed 100 of these in real life as a boy done not by Jews but by PLO or Syrians or Lebanese. The Syrian army kicked us out of our home that they lived and burned after they left for ten years. I am talking facts not hate and you have a lot of that for the wrong people. You showing me these photos is like showing me a picture of a flower I have seen in my world charity tours over the last 15 years 1000 times worse than that yes 10000 times kids as young as 5 months.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Twins in the two on the right??

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            my mistake…………

  2. cook2half Avatar

    The shaitan aims and kills lebanese

    1. So u are admitting Israel is the shaitan! First step to recovery is admitting ur problem. Israel has aimed and killed Lebanese, so you and hezballah and Syria and Iran and Iraq have more than u think in common.

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        What you said just about right…They all want to suffocate Lebanon..

        1. master09 Avatar

          The only f..cs who are strangling Lebanon are the Lebs and the little armies that are thier. What the F..c do the Jews want from Lebanon if these clowns are not pointing the weapons at them and all they talk about is distroying the Jews. Oh maybe they want to steal our hummus recipe. Wake up make peace with the Jews and Lebanon will be paradise and people will make more money and have more work than they will ever dream of. Tourist do not want to come because of the shit these groups are doing in Lebanon. Stop blaming everyone else and yes we are perfect. The enemy is within. Simple facts.

          1. If Israel doesn’t want anything from Lebanon then return Sheba farms.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That was Syrian.

          3. Some say the whole of Lebanon was Syrian

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            This 1851 mappe of Syria, i don’t consider old but i have have the same hand colored, scribled mapps have no value, mine colors happen to change designing lines of Zionist motto..from the Euphraetus etc.. the idea has been tougth before any project. Karl Marks wrote : The Disturbances in Syria, wich were about the 1860 massacres in Lebanon.

          5. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            There is a huge difference between educated people and uneducated morons. People who have nothing always try and steal other cultures popularity!

          6. So ur sAying Israelis r uneducated morons. And here I was thinking you loved them.

          7. man-o-war Avatar

            Or was it?

          8. I will leave that argument to the resident historians. Already seen how big a topic that was on here.

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Not even my magnifying glass can pick out the names …. the camels seem accurate … and Mary and Joseph there on the right side ….
            But I find it interesting that the coastline is almost a dead match to the modern one in colour … so I’d guess Everything on the coast was Syrian, and the rest was Iraq’s desert.
            Hmmmm … maybe someone should tell the Saudis they have to move out too because Hind found that everything on the coast was Syrian,.

          10. “But it DOES show Sheba Farms were Syrian. :-)))”

            Obviously before Syria was carved up by the French.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which was done to save Christians. And WE all know that too.
            Problem was, the French left, and ‘those Syrians’ just couldn’t let it alone.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Why..that’s most funny a grand aunt said
            “the French sucked our blood “they took everything they didn’t leave a pin!!”.
            (has nothing to do with politics)..

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            All ‘Conquerors’ rape and pillage don’t they? But then, they left.
            You’d think some folks could remake a pin or two …..

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It was oriental culture expression by an old lady, cant you respect that?
            She lived in 1930- 40’s trough famine, thyfoide epidemies even being from
            a whealty family, its childhood memories, you are verry agressive.
            .

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Its was an oriental cultural expression i said by an old lady. she lived trough
            30-40s famine and epidemies became deaf from typhoide. even if she was
            from a weathy familly, these are childhood memory.

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok Hind. I see it …. now… ‘some’ file in their desperate thoughts so fast and often the items float out of sight quickly. ;-))
            All times of human misery and distress are bad. Especially for those with no-where to go and no-one to turn to. Similar today to some friends in Tripoli stuck with the damn place, listening at night to the fighting, no money for medications for the flu or any other affliction, in a place with no ‘care’ let alone for health – and always low on food and water.
            My grandparents and mother suffered similarly … family stories not written in books … Although I WOULD recommend 2 books by Barry Broadfoot (Canadian) who travelled across the country recording the real stories of ‘the common people’ and their experiences …. ‘TEN LOST YEARS’ and ‘SIX WAR YEARS’ …. which tell more about human tragedy and moral triumph than any ‘news’ or ‘dry historical account’ ever could.
            I am sadly certain these have not become ‘required reading’ by the kiddies in the vaunted scholastic halls – which are now afraid to talk about ANY morality lest they damage someone’s delicate sensitivities – although the words in them ARE the truth of the people.
            Excuse me for being aggressive about some things …. I admit it.

          17. Actually according to history books there was one that never raped and pillaged when conquering. Not gonna tell u the name, leave up to u to figure it out 🙂

          18. man-o-war Avatar

            If you’re referring to the wars led by the Prophet, you’re wrong. They were allowed to capture the women and take them as their slaves.

          19. Do you make it a habit to state things you know nothing about to come across as wise?

          20. man-o-war Avatar

            Yes! That’s exactly what I like to do. I have to figure out a new technique to seem wise.

            Since you left it up for people to figure out, I just picked someone. Did I pick the wrong choice, or was I wrong about what actually happened during those battles.

          21. man-o-war Avatar

            Please tell us Barbie who you claim conquered without raping and pillaging. Since your so wise can you also direct us in the right direction, so we can do a little research on the matter.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Kublai Khan – Yuan Dynasty. Used TAXES mostly.
            Better to have a working, paying, populace with intact infrastructure. 😉
            Take out the stupid ‘Heads’, and offer protection. :-)))

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            What have “those Syrians” to do with the Druses and the 1860 massacres on the Mountain..

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            France created institutions, schools, convents etc..
            for the Christians in Midlle East, since the Crusaders.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Where, I assume, the ‘lesson plans’ were updated as they were in France?

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Please, i really don’t understand jokes or sarcasmes i’m too conventional
            and acostumed to serious discussions, you’re a good writer don’t be lazy.

          27. 5thDrawer Avatar

            After ‘wargame1’ today, I want to be very lazy and join Prophetttt in semi-retirement … 😉 But I will expand a little.
            I could not imagine studying under a crusader-mentality … horror.
            But through the ages, and as history developed, those ‘Institutions and schools’ you now love to hate did not stay with the crusader as teacher – or with his books. I would like to think the ‘modern world’ injected itself along the way? And the history of the crusades came along too, for references .
            Did the ‘Syrian Culture’ disappear? Completely? Under the French education, and it’s system of thought, has everyone truly suffered from that education?
            I’d bet a tiny bit even rubbed off on some Muslims. ;-))))))

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Those “Institutions and Schools” you now love to hate..this i don’t understand, would you love to hate the childhood that shaped your life, while growing up? books you read, the little songs you learned, the poems and texts you had to memorise? I can still recite by memory some from “les fables de Lafontaine..
            i was 8. We studied in two languages.

            Nobody studied with Crusaders mercenaries…:(((

            The Syrian Christians culture never disappeared, its disapearing now before our eyes, nobody cares, its Israel-US-Saudi-Plan. I still have the 2011 Paris
            article of Al Rahi visite (invited), Sarkozy told him ( before all this happened)
            “prepare your people for an Exodus to Europe, the Western powers will invade
            the ME. Children were gazed in Ghouta for the invasion, Israel papers show
            them lobying the US for War on Syria.

          29. Hello Hind,
            I just wanted to send a friendly Hello your way and agree with you that a childhood is one of the most powerful and shaping experiences anyone can have, sadly it can go either way . Good night to you and all 🙂

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hello geo, thank you i’m happy you read it you’re the best. Good nigth to you 🙂

          31. From memory the Syrian dictator even said Sheba farms were part of Lebanon. So Lebanon claims Sheba farms is its territory and the Syrian dictator agrees but Israel wants to decide who owns the land it is occupying.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            As did the Lebanese.

          33. “As did the Lebanese”

            I did say Lebanon claimed it was their territory meaning the Lebanese.
            Btw you managed to steer the subject away from Israeli occupation of Lebanese territory real smoothly. 🙂

          34. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (Shhhh barabie … don’t want anyone to know I tricked them into stopping yelling at each other long enough to possibly think. ;-))
            (P.S. When I said ‘Lebanese’, I didn’t necessarily mean ‘Lebanon’. shhhh)

          35. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Sheba farms were part of Lebanon as Lebanon was a Mountain in Syria.
            Please tell abhorrorligine to take a cold shower and calm down pffhhhaha..!

          36. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And ‘who’ is Syrian?

          37. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The Syrians if you’re Serious.

          38. 5thDrawer Avatar

            At the moment they are totally confused, it seems, just like ‘the Lebanese’.

          39. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            put yousrelf at their place invaded by thugs mercenaries talinbans the west
            dictator refuses anyone to go help, if Egypt Army would go the west nob his bisnesssszzzzgood nigth its 3 am.

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You gave me a a puzzle realy funny with that mappe on the rigth.

            I couldn’ read a thing on the Copy its from google, but i happen to own two,
            Syria and Egypt (colored) by myself (Syria) is not finished..i’m an Art restaurer colorist and expert on ancient paper, paintings, water colors, seldom mappes,
            my clients are famous Art collectors and i’m proud to say a Federal Senator benefactor to mtl Musem of Fine arts, trusts me with his 17th century collection:)

            Coast lines never change, why you find it “curious” they don’t?

            The map on the rigth is disproportionaty big, Irak is ex-Mesopotamia in Syria
            on the left, British changed the names in WW1. Below is Arabia not Saudi till WW1. Jordan is nowhere on the left, it was just a river called Jordan.
            The east East-Banc of River Jordan- “Shark el Ordon” in Arabic still, it became home to the Hashemite, after ibn Saud conquered Arabia in WW1.
            Syria’s borders end in Al Arish on the left.Up in the the caravan is Asia Minor (Armenia) today Eastern Turkey.

            The Desert of Syria was called Desert of Sham or Shem in Aramean,
            Sham is Damascus in Arabic..ouff ! And i didn’t say Arabia was Syria.
            I’am so sorry if it causes political problems, but yes, of course all the
            coast was Syria – Palestine
            What’s the mappe on the rigth doing there (??)

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hind … It is not ‘on the right’ … Your black-line map overlays a new one from another story. Yours is on top of the new … and without changing anything on either except the transparency of yours, I simply matched up the shorelines …. I was surprised that a ‘mapper’ from 1860 got it that close – at least, where where Lebanon is. :-)) Although, yes, ‘surveying’ had been invented and some surveyors were meticulous. Ship Captains went by measurements of sun or moon … etc.
            Perhaps you should conclude that something was surveyed … and the rest surmised? What is the scale? Was the curve of the earth ‘adjusted’ for either one to be displayed on a flat surface? Many maps were artistic renderings from, eye-views, or estimates of distance in time of travel … and some still are. Even a view from space has a ‘fall-off’ – is the foreshortening north/south, or east/west?
            But up there at Turkey you can see a shoreline change …
            And ‘The Med’ looks curious to me … is that Cyprus or Italy on the left??
            And I can’t be sure the bottom matches anything because it wasn’t on the coloured one. So, there we go … 🙂 Everyone has an ancient map. 🙂
            You should see the first ones of the ‘New World’. :-)))))
            But maybe you have.
            Nice career anyway … restorations. No deadlines I’m sure.

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Before i answer i want to know what’s thet map on the right, what shores, where are the shore lines that match, its dificult to understand, in the smaller you can see it on the upper rigth corner, were they made space for the cartouch, that Mosopotamia,-Irrrak, its a small scale English map, The north is Armenia, the south is Arabia (i knowt by heart, west is Cyprus, in a clear day i coold see a faint line on the horizon, i see no Italy only the medit….nn bonne nuit…xzzzzz

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh Crap … fill up a page … here’s the ‘modern’ colour one … put yours on top of it … match the shore lines … result is the previous one I sent. Geezzzz …..

          44. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It’s not “crap” you were sarcastic, no reason mocking me telling eveybody
            “so i’d guess Everything on the coast was Syria and the rest, was Iraki’s desert”.

            Why? 1852 is simply Syria before WW1, the modern separates ancient Mesopotamia (Irak) from Syria, it adds Jordan not yet created, part of the Palestinian Territories in the British Mandate for Palestine”

            See on the old Syria’s borders went down to the borders of Egypt Al Arish,
            before colonisation drew lines and changed names in the Midlle East,
            not the fault of ancient mapps and historians, not mine, Mospotamia and
            Babylon (modern Irak) were in greater Syria, since 6000yrs untill WW1.
            It’s intelectualy dificult to understand the general animosity..and the 5th “sarcasme” 🙂

          45. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            So Lebanon was in Syria or it never was? Zionist fake Lebanese blast me for saying that.

          46. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Maps can be drawn you Mongaloid, especially if they were done under ssnp supervision. Lebanon was never part of modern day syria, get it through your thick skull. How dare you bring in socialist baath ideologies into Lebanon?? Who the hell do you think you are?? Go and regurgitate this crap in syria where people will actually believe you. You are trying to claim our history, our cuisine and now you want to claim our land. I am yet to see what your point is. People and countries change with time unlike your beloved fake syria that has been in a hole for way too long. Go and martyr yourself for the Christian syrians who never gave a stuff about us. What an imbecile!!

          47. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Maybe everyone should have asked the now-gone farmers where they wanted to be paying their taxes ….

          48. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Go buy a Tallis mappe (very rare) tell the antic shop it is redrawn HaH.ahha..!, poor poor man.

          49. Can u say anything without swearing? Shows a certain lack of ……

      2. master09 Avatar

        Wake up you clown the Arabs kill each other more than 100 hundred other countries put together. One fact is Syria Arabs fu..CSS killing Arab Fu..cs. But because you Arabs are so brainwashed by your imams and clerics you can’t get your heads out of the boiling sand. Stop f…N pointing fingers and start looking in the mirror. I am Lebanese but the facts are the facts. Who killed more Lebanese tell me during the war the Jews or the Lebs Nd the PLO , talk facts. You Arabs ALL from top to bottom from side to the other are the same, backward clowns stuck in some time warp. Arabs hate each other more than they hate the Jews. This is why the ME will be f…ced up forever because all they can do is blame the Jews for everything fart that smells.

        1. First of all Syria was mentioned so ur trying to throw that in doesn’t work. Secondly where are your verifiable numbers? Thirdly your comment proves you are not Arab but a Zionist.
          And lastly even if the numbers of dead were greater in Arab on Arab than Israel, that doesn’t diminish the fact Israel is a murderer.

          1. master09 Avatar

            I never said Isreal never killed but we are talking war against another country. Syria banged Lebanon in the ass and are still banging it in the Ass and if you can’t see that than that sand must be so hot on your ears. I am not an Arab but a Lebanese and just because I say facts does not make me a Zionist . The problem with you ArAbs as soon as someone looks at a Jew he becomes a Zionist get a life facts are facts. So can you you me facts on who killed more Lebs, the Jews or the PLO, Syrian army and the Lebs together, I lived in that and saw what was going on and who pointed the guns at who. I remember when the Leb factions used to cut the heads of and parade them on the back of jeeps. So don’t tell me I am not Leb because I speak facts not hate.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Hey stop dripping hate you’re inoundating my space, talking machine..

          3. master09 Avatar

            Lol can’t take the truth. I am dripping hate show me where I drip hate please show me. In all I say u miss the whole point because u have soo much hate in your heart and all I am saying is why can we not have peace in Lebanon. Wake up and look in the mirror who has hate. Downies for facts wow. The brainwashed will all be and the facts will always be. Simple bla bla bla.

          4. man-o-war Avatar

            If you would just present your facts and opinions in a less abrasive manner people may just listen. Rather, you scream and call names. F this and F that, clowns this and clown that. Your point gets lost when you post such comments, maybe try toning it down and quit pointing fingers as if “we” Arabs committed these atrocities you mention.

          5. master09 Avatar

            It’s facts they did do all the above. Look at history and look at what is happening today around you. It’s facts

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          It smells Zionist to high heaven…4 fu? Typical Zionists language same
          talking points all over your fake Lebanese face.. why the need to be Lebanese?.

          1. master09 Avatar

            Facts nothing more. Tell me if these groups stop pointing guns at the Jews would that not be better for us. Second tell me where I am wrong that Syria PLO and the Lebs killed more more Lebanese together ten fold than the Jews did. How is it because I am talking facts make me a Zionist. All I want for my country is for these groups to give up their weapons and than see how Lebanon will live in peace. No the problem is no one wants peace that is why government inject hate words into your blood so even if I look at a Jew I am a Zionist. All I want is peace to be given a chance without these weapons. I care 0 if you think I am not Lebanese for talking FACTS. Lol

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            But i don’t care 0. I’m not adressing how many were killed in the past i’m adressing the futur the Fact is there’s a Plan, Zionists are working hard to promote as fake Lebanese and that’s serious..nobody is adressing because of alliances as it has always ben in Lebanon history, i’m not oblivious.

            You talk about peace.. it will Never happen, there are Plans for the futur of
            the entire Midlle East, since a long time in the European capitals were Jews had their homeland, were they worked towards the Midlle East planifications.
            It did not start by the Holocaust.

            A Likudist assasinated Rabin with the blessing of Grand Rabbi.
            Jews are a race not a religion, don’t say Zionism is Judaism, Sion the religion was hijacked by the creators of the Zionist Movement.. many Zionists say openly on the Jewish media that they knew about Rabin assasination, and
            didn’t report it before it happend.

            All this is not for the advantage of Lebanon or the ME already in ruins,
            the complexity of the many sects and religions was scrutinised in the European capitals, after the 1860 Massacre in Lebanon Mountain..
            Its by creating sectarianism Israel have weekened or destroyed their neighboring countries, in Palestinian social fabric there were no cleavages..Raphael Eytan, Begin, Sharon, Shamir created Hamas.

          3. master09 Avatar

            Just like they created HA. But you missed the point I am making past or future the Arabs have a choice. Put money in their hand and they kill thier own father so tell why? We have a chose for a better future stop pointing fingers and push our government to think for our country not rape it for the sake of money. You see the Jews are smart give a dollar for a country, I would be doing the same and so would you to have control and save your ass. WE HAVE A CHOSE. The Lebs have a brain or DO they, lol. Maybe the Zionist should think for them. Lol

          4. master09 Avatar

            Tell me how many young Lebanese are sitting in Syrian jails or are now dead taken from their family for protecting Lebanon. Facts again. Why did the PLO fire 10000s of rockets from our land onto the Jews , do you want the Jews to just sit and watch. Tell me how many Lebs did the PLO kill. Tell me how many Lebs kill each other, that is what my subject is about. We are out own worst enemy and we kill each other because we are Sunni or Christian or because we pray another way that is what I am talking about. Do the Jews kill each other NO that is what I am talking about. We need to solve our problem ourselves and stop pointing fingers and I tell you Lebanon will be paradise, but that want happen with Syria and HA playing with guns on our land. You are talking hate I am talking simple FACTS.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            To make your story short…look what Israel & Wahabi Allies pay Jihadis from
            all over the world to kill and destroy in Syria.

          6. master09 Avatar

            But you still did not like the others talk about how in Lebanon more Lebs died from the hands of the three I mention and not just the Jewish army. You are just making my story even more facts. If I give you a million dollars would you kill your dad, I would say no so that makes the Arabs even more scum to take money or what ever you call it to kill even more Arabs. You see my point is an Aeab will kill thier own even for no money but does a Jew. Second how many Lebanese did the PLO kill you like everyone run from that fact. Three how many did Syria kill you also run and change the subject. Last and the worst part is HOW many did Lebs kill of thier own. One story I will tell you my uncle drove a taxi gend alah a Lebanese faction in the 70s accused him of being a spy because he drove up and down same area toooo many times, we got him back in 50 FKN peaces in a bag. Tell me who are more killing more of thier own the Arabs or the Jews and stop giving me pictures I witnessed 100 of these in real life as a boy done not by Jews but by PLO or Syrians or Lebanese. The Syrian army kicked us out of our home that they lived and burned after they left for ten years. I am talking facts not hate and you have a lot of that for the wrong people.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Twins in the two on the right??

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            my mistake…………

  3. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    The longer it heats up, the worse the fighting will be.

  4. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    The longer it heats up, the worse the fighting will be.

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