Israel DM apologizes to Kerry over remarks that outraged US

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Moshe YaalonIsrael’s hawkish defense minister apologized to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday after a newspaper quoted him scorning the diplomat’s quest for Israeli-Palestinian peace as messianic and obsessive.

Moshe Yaalon did not deny making the closed-door remarks published on the front page of the best-selling Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper, which drew rare condemnation from Washington and added to acrimony over Jewish settlement of occupied West Bank land where the Palestinians seek statehood.

Yaalon was initially silent about the report but he moved to calm the furor after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implicitly rebuked him in a speech. He issued a statement of guarded appreciation for the United States and followed it hours later with another explicitly praising Kerry.

“Israel and the United States share a common goal to advance the peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians led by Secretary Kerry,” it said, in Hebrew and English.

“The defense minister had no intention to cause any offence to the secretary, and he apologizes if the secretary was offended by the remarks attributed to the minister.”

Kerry has been on a diplomatic blitz in recent weeks to persuade Israel and the Palestinians, who resumed statehood talks in July after a three-year deadlock, to agree on an outline proposal addressing the core issues of their conflict.

There has been scant sign of progress, however.

Israel balks at removing settlements – viewed as illegal by most world powers – and has questioned the credibility of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, whose authority has been limited to the West Bank since he lost control of Gaza in a 2007 civil war to Hamas Islamists, who spurn the Jewish state.

“Secretary of State John Kerry – who has come to us determined and is acting out of an incomprehensible obsession and a messianic feeling – cannot teach me a single thing about the conflict with the Palestinians,” Yedioth quoted Yaalon as saying, without specifying when or where he had spoken.

“The only thing that can save us is if Kerry wins the Nobel prize and leaves us alone.”

Censuring Yaalon, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said earlier on Tuesday that, if accurate, his remarks were “offensive and inappropriate, especially given all that the United States is doing to support Israel’s security needs”.

White House spokesman Jay Carney had similar condemnation.

“GREAT ALLY”

Kerry, who made his 10th visit to Jerusalem last week in less than a year, has been pushing both sides to agree to at least a preliminary deal. Israeli misgivings at the Palestine talks compound anger within the Netanyahu government at an interim deal that the United States – represented by Kerry – and five other world powers reached with Iran in November to rein in its nuclear program in return for sanctions relief.

Netanyahu spoke by phone to a senior U.S. official in a bid to smooth over the controversy over the Yaalon report, an Israeli official said on condition of anonymity. He said Yaalon also discussed the matter with U.S. Ambassador Dan Shapiro.

Addressing parliament, Netanyahu appeared to take Yaalon, a member of his right-wing Likud party, to task, extolling Israel’s shared interests with “our great ally” in Washington.

“Even when we have disagreements with the United States, they always pertain to the matter at hand, and are not personal,” Netanyahu said in his speech.

Yaalon has been a strong supporter of settlement building. As Israel’s military chief, he was replaced in that post before its 2005 Gaza pullout, a move he opposed.

One of the sticking points in peacemaking has been Israel’s demand to keep a military presence under any future peace deal in the Jordan Valley, between Jordan and the West Bank.

Kerry has presented the sides with ideas for security arrangements in the Jordan Valley. Neither has publicly endorsed them. According to Yedioth, Yaalon said: “The American security plan is not worth the paper it is written on.”

The State Department challenged Yaalon on the issue.

“Secretary Kerry and his team … have been working day and night to try to promote a secure peace for Israel because of the secretary’s deep concern for Israel’s future,” Psaki said.

“To question his motives and distort his proposals is not something we would expect from the defense minister of a close ally.”

The dispute erupted a day after U.S. media published excerpts from a memoir by former Defence Secretary Robert Gates in which he said he had tried to get Netanyahu barred from the White House, accusing him of being arrogant and ungrateful.

Reuters

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348 responses to “Israel DM apologizes to Kerry over remarks that outraged US”

  1. I love how two faced he is… First he slams the US and says that he wants Kerry to leave them alone (because they are doing a fantastic job themselves at trying to find peace) but then probably realised that the IDF would not fair well if the US did leave them alone and cut funding! You can almost see some brown stuff on his lips from all the as$ kissing he is doing at the moment……

    1. Looks like someone did not read the script…

      1. I read the article clearly but when you take a swipe at a minister of a country and want them to leave you alone especially when it is in regards to foreign policy and peace then you are also taking a swipe at the country they represent and the country that gives Israel $$$$$$$$… I wonder if the defence chiefs in the US spoke about an Israeli minister like that would last very long in their posts after the Jewish lobby finishes with them…..

    2. he talked about Kerry not the US. which is a delutional and naive.
      the US never was so confused as it is now. nothing coharant about it’s foreign policy and all credit is to the pair Obama& Kerry
      i wouldn’t call it a$$ kissing but lip services. kerry knows Yaalon’s opinions and Yaalon knows kerry.
      and neither gives an F about the other

      1. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        Shhhhh… or no money
        for you and Yaalon
        run and say how sorry you are or there won’t be salaries at the end of the month
        arrogant beggar!

        1. ohh it’s you and you come to threaten me with your toilet paper money again ?lol
          how are those printing machins working?
          the moment Saudies decide to sell their oil in petro Euros instead of petro-dollars ,toilet paper is all your money would be worth :))))
          it will probably happen cause stupid obama & naieve Kerry are too blind to understand the magnitude of failed foriegn policy.
          i guess this is the price for putting vain arrogante and under qualified people in leadership position
          i’d treat us nice if i were you. after all, when sh(i)t hits the fan, you would need the smart jews and their money to save your a$$

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            pfff, there are no Jews in America, there’s Americans. We cherish all communities regardless of race, ethnicity or religion as long as they swear allegiance to the flag. That same flag that’s been the predominant flag on planet earth for the past couple of centuries and that we took and planted on the moon and soon even further. We are 50 stars because we are a diverse people. Let me know when your star becomes two and we can start talking.
            As for the oil being traded in Euro, buddy, you (orthodox Jew) will be the last to benefit from that in the fantasy scenario where it will happen. Last I checked your money served you very little in getting Europeans to love you and need you, and it certainly wasn’t the “Euro” that paid our armies to liberate you from the camps.
            Kneel and pray for the $
            It’s the only thing keeping your @$$ in the “pghomised land”

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ahhh .. yes … all the ‘political correctness’ … Gotta love it. :-)))))

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            The time for niceties is over.
            Today Israelis need to know that our kindness has a limit and that limit has been crossed by the likes of Netanyahu and his little minion Yaalon. They can shift the blame on Obama’s “naivety” and “incompetence” but their leadership knows they screwed up big. We’re a forgiving people though and they know that to return into our lap they need to vote in nice white sheep and return to flowery rhetoric. They need to pay close attention to their new image among US voters because oh boy will they be surprised to learn how low it fell and how much the American people is adamant to vote for Obama and the likes…
            Just a piece of advice, like any other nation, Israel: don’t cross us!

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Well said…
            This thingy about being “chosen” is getting to his head. lol

          5. wow boy hold your horses.
            never said i was against the US only against the current gov.
            we’re loyal to the alliance with the US but if you think this loyalty is bought with money then by all means take that money and shove it where the sun don’t shine :))
            got plenty of holes to dump your money in. feel free to dump it on iraq and the PA.
            seriously, aren’t you tired of training armies just to see them crumble or turn against you?
            you would expect vietnam,iraq afganistan and now syria would dawn on you the understanding ,at least ,that you might be wrong
            as for keeping our a$$, don’t worry ,i’d rather watch it my self then trusting obama and get an anal prob when i least expect it

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Vaseline anyone?

          7. no need thank you,
            i could use it when we found about your deal with iran but it’s over now lol

          8. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Then stop sucking our money and tell the US Government and your stooges in Congress not to send you any money. The smart jews killing the world economy and dealing with former drug dealers like Noriega.. Controlling some europeans aiports and running spy agencies as if the world is yours. As if you’re the only nation on earth suffered from wars.. take your arrogance and if you’re so proud of your country then stop begging the US for money. Really if you’re a proud nation then stop asking the use for Help Who setup the patriot missiles for you? who saved your ass in the last war against Egypt and help you come out of it a winner. how quickly you forget..

          9. have a look at my replay to mekenseh, prety much sums what i think about the money issue
            bout the rest, besides the killing the world economy myth, it’s prety much what every country do …

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar

      A ‘bitter pill’ to swallow? :-))))

  2. I love how two faced he is… First he slams the US and says that he wants Kerry to leave them alone (because they are doing a fantastic job themselves at trying to find peace) but then probably realised that the IDF would not fair well if the US did leave them alone and cut funding! You can almost see some brown stuff on his lips from all the as$ kissing he is doing at the moment……

    1. Looks like someone did not read the script…

      1. I read the article clearly but when you take a swipe at a minister of a country and want them to leave you alone especially when it is in regards to foreign policy and peace then you are also taking a swipe at the country they represent and the country that gives Israel $$$$$$$$… I wonder if the defence chiefs in the US spoke about an Israeli minister like that would last very long in their posts after the Jewish lobby finishes with them…..

    2. he talked about Kerry not the US. which is a delutional and naive.
      the US never was so confused as it is now. nothing coharant about it’s foreign policy and all credit is to the pair Obama& Kerry
      i wouldn’t call it a$$ kissing but lip services. kerry knows Yaalon’s opinions and Yaalon knows kerry.
      and neither gives an F about the other

      1. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        Shhhhh… or no money
        for you and Yaalon
        run and say how sorry you are or there won’t be salaries at the end of the month
        arrogant beggar!

        1. ohh it’s you and you come to threaten me with your toilet paper money again ?lol
          how are those printing machins working?
          the moment Saudies decide to sell their oil in petro Euros instead of petro-dollars ,toilet paper is all your money would be worth :))))
          i’d treat us nice if i were you. after all, when sh(i)t hits the fan, you would need the smart jews and their money to save your a$$

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            pfff, there are no Jews in America, there’s Americans. We cherish all communities regardless of race, ethnicity or religion as long as they swear allegiance to the flag. That same flag that’s been the predominant flag on planet earth for the past couple of centuries and that we took and planted on the moon and soon even further. We are 50 stars because we are a diverse people. Let me know when your star becomes two and we can start talking.
            As for the oil being traded in Euro, buddy, you (orthodox Jew) will be the last to benefit from that in the fantasy scenario where it will happen. Last I checked your money served you very little in getting Europeans to love you and need you, and it certainly wasn’t the “Euro” that paid our armies to liberate you from the camps.
            Kneel and pray for the $
            It’s the only thing keeping your @$$ in the “pghomised land”

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ahhh .. yes … all the ‘political correctness’ … Gotta love it. :-)))))

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            The time for niceties is over.
            Today Israelis need to know that our kindness has a limit and that limit has been crossed by the likes of Netanyahu and his little minion Yaalon. They can shift the blame on Obama’s “naivety” and “incompetence” but their leadership knows they screwed up big. We’re a forgiving people though and they know that to return into our lap they need to vote in nice white sheep and return to flowery rhetoric. They need to pay close attention to their new image among US voters because oh boy will they be surprised to learn how low it fell and how much the American people is adamant to vote for Obama and the likes…
            Just a piece of advice, like any other nation, Israel: don’t cross us!

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Well said…
            This thingy about being “chosen” is getting to his head. lol

          5. wow boy hold your horses.
            never said i was against the US only against the current gov.
            we’re loyal to the alliance with the US but if you think this loaylty is bought with money then by all means take that money and shove it where the sun don’t shine :))
            got plenty of holes to dump your money in. feel free to dump it on iraq and the PA.
            seriously, aren’t you tired of training armies just to see them crumble or turn against you?
            you would expect vietnam,iraq afganistan and now syria would down on you the understanding at least that you might be wrong
            as for keeping our a$$, don’t worry ,i’d rather watch it my self then trusting obama and get an anal prob when i least expect it

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Vaseline anyone?

          7. no need thank you,
            i could use it when we found about your deal with iran but it’s over now lol

          8. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            Then stop sucking our money and tell the US Government and your stooges in Congress not to send you any money. The smart jews killing the world economy and dealing with former drug dealers like Noriega.. Controlling some europeans aiports and running spy agencies as if the world is yours. As if you’re the only nation on earth suffered from wars.. take your arrogance and if you’re so proud of your country then stop begging the US for money. Really if you’re a proud nation then stop asking the use for Help Who setup the patriot missiles for you? who saved your ass in the last war against Egypt and help you come out of it a winner. how quickly you forget..

          9. have a look at my replay to mekenseh, prety much sums what i think about the money issue
            bout the rest, besides the killing the world economy myth, it’s prety much what every country do …

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar

      A ‘bitter pill’ to swallow? :-))))

  3. Quran 3:18 O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      From the beginning Satan has been deceiving humanity. Satan and his servants will masquerade as ministers of righteousness. Satan’s hoisting of false religions has been a very effective lie since it mixes in some truth. A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison – it’s that 1% of poison (What you portray as truth) that will kill you!

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        Well Said Hannibal. where the heck are you man? I need your help with that Hindy girl.. just kidding..

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          I love Hind…
          Don’t you dare 😉
          The way I see it: we will ALL someday meet in the middle to create a nation.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Might be a little tight, Hannibal. 🙂 Someone (I think a Monsanto freak), in trying to say that making more and more babies all the time is OK, calculated the world’s population could fit into Texas. Wouldn’t THAT be a horrid place to meet. :-)))
            (Unless you were face to face with Hind, perhaps … 😉

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Little is known of Texas… mostly preconceptions and Western movies…
            One thing though, the Lone Star State has a very big heart and will be happy to adopt the population of the whole world.
            Texans take your comment as a compliment and can’t wait to have you for a scotch or two 😉

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Thanks Mekenseh … there’s a little cowgirl down there been trying to get me to visit for a while … I contemplate a long drive on occasion … it’s getting across the border that’s tricky, and with all the terrorists whacking at the USA I’m not sure if it would be more safe than a Beirut-Landing. :-)))))
            And, if I did that, I’d feel guilty if I didn’t visit the one in Northern Mexico as well.
            That’s TWO borders – not counting all the ones between states. :-)))))))
            Might just need to remain a ‘Lone Star’.
            (Unless I get the urge to ‘venture’ again … life has had little bouts of ‘danger-moves’ … hmmm … and I am used to hearing gunfire …. hmmm ….)

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Anytime,
            PS: don’t bring the other 7 billions with you, I was just kidding

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            PS2: I’m not driving you to a date with a cowgirl. You’re on your own for that part.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok. No 7 billion. Maybe the Mexican has a friend for you … after my rodeo. ;-)))

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            look at you all fired up for a southern brunette.
            you’d make a good Texan

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s it. Coffee break. :-))))))))

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, and I know why it’s a ‘Lone Star’. Pecos Bill shot out all the rest. 🙂

          10. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            I can’t mess with her she is too strong headed..lol

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Extrapolating with run-on ‘dialogues’ what was the simple to begin with … confuses the main subject with extraneous garbage … hmmm … something like ‘Hadiths’? ;-)))

      3. ...some guy Avatar
        …some guy

        Indisputable truth!! He has thousands of years of experience on stupid humans that think they know everything by the age of 10 .

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          What Satan, Mephisto or Lucifer?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Lately, considering the popular TV & Movie themes, it seem to be Vlad the Impaler. ;-)))

        2. “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

          Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and the idolaters could not have been freed till clear evidence came to them —

          A Messenger from Allah, reciting pure pages,

          Wherein are (all) right books.

          Nor did those to whom the Book was given become divided till clear evidence came to them.

          And they are enjoined naught but to serve Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience, upright and to keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and that is the right religion.

          Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and the idolaters will be in the Fire of Hell, abiding therein. They are the worst of creatures.

          Those who believe and do good, they are the best of creatures.

          Their reward is with their Lord: Gardens of perpetuity wherein flow rivers, abiding therein forever. Allah is well-pleased with them and they are well-pleased with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord”.
          Amazing how divided the truth makes people, don’t you think.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You forgot the believers who do bad.

          2. “[006:082] Those who believe and mix not up their belief with injustice – it is they who shall have peace, and who are rightly guided. ”

            One of the things that I find quite concerning and worrisome from the followers of any religion or faith is the allowance of temporary evil and injustice towards others! There is a common attitude among “believers” of any faith that if they do evil and then repent then it will be washed away for them. What we would be left with then is injustice done to others without punishment! This is especially common among the followers of the gospel of porn, the book that sings glory songs, praises and declarations about women’s vaginas and breasts taste like “wine” and sisters can lust after their brothers and take them to “bed”! Literally! Because of the pornography, and because of the countless errors, contradictions and corruption in the gospel of porn, this is why you see every sin imaginable being commonly praised and practiced and is at its peak among this book’s pornified societies. This includes, but not limited to, open nakedness where 99% of the body’s nakedness is exposed via wearing bikinis in public, which will in turn tempt others, open lewdness (no dress code on clothes), open sexuality (boyfriend-girlfriend relationships and dating), alcoholism, drugs, war mongering, lying, corruption, deceit, injustice and many other evil things that christians and their churches today are notorious of. Many of them believe that if they only repent then it will be forgiven for them. This corrupt and false religion has caused for so much evil to be done on earth in the Name of GOD Almighty. This is one of the many reasons why the false man-made religion of conjecture is a blaspheme against GOD Almighty. The following links further demonstrate my points in great details:
            1. Miss California’s Nude Pictures: Being “Biblically Correct”.

            2.95% of Americans had premarital sex according to a new study!

            3. Why are Christians so notorious in sinning throughout the world? What is the real secret behind it?

            4. Latest Study: 1 in 4 Christian teen girls has an STD – More Christian profanity exposed world-wide!

            5.Why are pedophilia and homosexuality common in the Christian churches?

            6.The bible is a book that contains countless contradictions and corruptions as ironically the bible’s own theologians openly admit! They even claim that it contains fables and fairy tales:
            ◦ The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fictions that exist in the Bible”!

            ◦ The Christian and Bible theologians say “The original manuscripts had been lost”!

            ◦ The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fairy tales and fables in the Bible”!

            ◦ Countless contradictions and corruption.

            ◦ The original authors are “unknown” of almost all of the bible’s books and gospels.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Quite interesting the other day the australian university in an uprecedented statement compared shorts in the workplace “unproffessional” for men yet women wearing mini skirts and jeans and pants(anything above the knee) with the private parts literally imprinted for the world to see as proffessional. Maybe the public is slowley awakening from its slumber and are beggining to realise how the multibillion dollar industry of porn has effected us.

            Just recently (3 yrs ago) they discovered using water to clean you “ass” is a much more socially acceptable form of cleanliness. Whilst they used to mock muslims and some ignorant still do.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, what a conundrum I am. I never wear shorts but swim nude, always liked mini-skirts above good legs only, and thought the bidet was a simply wonderful invention, as it saved trees at the same time as giving that oh-so-clean feeling.
            (best used in a country with water, of course 😉

          5. That reminds of doctors. Up until the 1840’s the medical manuals in the west stated “it’s unhygienic to wash your hands before an examination of a patient or before performing an operation”. Queen Elizabeth the first bathed only twice in her entire life. Queen Isabel of Spain only bathed once. The church at that time banned washing coz the “devil” (aka Muslims) washed. Humans are a joke.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The ‘old’ saying (not really so old) … ‘Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.’, – meaning don’t get rid of ALL of a concept if part of it works (which could be applied to some things about religion as well as machinery) – ostensibly came from a time when the male bathed first, the woman second, and each kid in succession after – for the ‘Once-a-week’ bath – in a large family totally black water at the end might lose the baby. :-))
            This is not proven to have happened, anywhere. (Maybe in The Ozaraks :-)))
            Some early pioneers of North America bathed once a year – in their long underwear, which washed that at the same time. ;-))))
            I had an aunt, of which it was said: ‘She could bathe in a thimble-full of water.’
            :-))))))) (whewie – yah … a little dodgy giving a kiss of greeting on a cheek)
            In human history, the concepts of hygiene have certainly varied. I’m sure a lot of things were probably lost to ‘the doctors’ when Egypt’s Library at Alexandria was burned – lost to later Europeans for sure.
            But people of warm climates and warm waters – especially those Romans – sure knew how to run water all over the place, and to heat it, to make a bath … built them all over the place … and even had one going in England.
            Still there. Still named Bath. A Marvellous thing.
            What happened??
            RELIGION. :-))))
            Now everyone just takes showers. Don’t even sit in water anymore. Weird.
            But you should REALLY try a bath in Japan. They out-did the Romans. 😉

          7. Who destoyed the great library of Alexander? The ancestors of the ones who destroyed the cradle of civilisation, Iraq. Our resident contradiction keeps screaming and shouting in defense of Iran but the Iranian militias were the ones who drove Christians out of Iraq.

          8. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Come on Reason, how can you compare women’s legs to men’s legs! Are you trying to tell me that you wouldn’t look at a good pair of legs in a mini skirt? Its Allah’s creation and Allah wants you to appreciate his work of art. You can choose not to look at the private parts, but at least you know why she whistles when she walks!

          9. So you would be happy people perving at ur wife or sister or even mother? In life one needs a certain decency and although its far from fair, fairness. If women can wear mini skirts then men should be allowed to wear shorts. I would prefer to look at a man’s legs over a woman’s any day

          10. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            If you ever go to new York in the winter you will recognize the Prophettttt as the only man that wears shorts all year round 🙂 seriously I got into an argument with a rasta man in Jamaica trying to sell me marijuana and when I told him I don’t partake due to spiritual reasons he got indignant and lectured me that I was offending God for not consuming the vegetation. Any prison for 2 weeks would have been more fun than 2 weeks in jamaica1! I HATED IT BEING THERE.

          11. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            I hope Prophettttt has the good legs to go with the shorts…
            The funny thing, my neighbor is quite the fashion stylist, he wears shorts extending just slightly above the knee and socks just slightly below the knee and all you see is the knee caps…. LOL

          12. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Having lived in gods waiting room for 18 years(florida) most seniors have the same dress code as you described. and when they are driving (as they shouldnt) they are affectionatly called Q tips :)P

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Bastard.
            :-)))))
            But doesn’t everyone own Golf Carts?? ;-))))

          14. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            lol, we just can’t get a response from Prophetttttt

          15. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            I got a text from him…He is looking for new friends! zionists to the south and abusive Geo to the north, I finally pushed him over the edge 🙂

          16. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            You may be pushing your luck a little, don’t you think.

            Listen to this one and may be Prophettttt will read it too: an old couple who has been married for over 60 years, one night they were bored and didn’t know what to do, the old man looked at the old lady and said how about if we watch a porn movie, the old lady smiled at him and said sure, he played the movie, half way through it, he fell asleep while she watched every second of it. When the movie was over, she looked at him angrily and yelled, honey… he didn’t answer, of course her voice got louder and louder, honey…honey, finally he woke up and said to her, what do you want, she looked at him and said, you know something, for over 60 years we have been doing it all wrong, just all wrong…..

          17. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Peresistent, Hope all is well. Geo is telling the truth that I walk around with shorts in sub-degree weather sometimes.I just have to be careful on how much info I should tell him from now and on. He can not keep a secret.lol

          18. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            Thanks for asking Prophettttt, everything is fine on this end and I hope the same on your side as well. My daughter has graduated and has a good job, now I can start thinking about retirement….I suppose they are good secrets to reveal, Geo means well though. I suppose, at times the temperature in NY is comparable to Bent Jbeil, you are acclimated.

          19. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Persistent, Thanks and Congratulation to your daughter on her graduation and on her new job. I also want to congratulate you on rushing to be a member of the old retirees club. I just don’t understand why you are in a hurry .lol
            As for my friend Geo, He can only mean well; He is genetically designed incapable of harming ,not even when he is being mischievous.

          20. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Far too kind prophetttt, But you know how reverse psychology works Now I have to go break something or get arrested to prove that I am not so innocent 🙂

          21. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            Thanks again, At this time I am just thinking about it, politics, deadlines, budgeting and bureaucracy that goes along with my job is driving me in that direction. BTW I am not all that old but I just started early. lol…, I still got slightly over 15 years before I can even begin to draw SS. I just want to come out of my job intact and start doing what I have always wanted to do and that is traveling certain parts of the world. I am not planning on confining myself to a rocking chair.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It CAN be that way, Persistently …. Health is the thing to keep.
            Try to keep others from driving you into a bad one.

          23. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            So true!!

          24. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Peresistent, Hope all is well. Geo is telling the truth that I walk around with shorts in sub-degree weather sometimes.I just have to be careful on how much info I should tell him from now and on. He can not keep a secret.lol

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s the “formal’ style. 😉 Just like a good Scottish Kilt.

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            One brother worked there for a year. In the mountains. He ‘went native’. :-))))))
            When the company told him the next spot was Kingston, he got out. 😉
            Not entirely stupid. :-))))

          27. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Where did you get the idea to go to Jamaica:))?
            I read women are best preserved in cold wheater.

          28. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            HIndy It was related to saying “I do” 28 years ago 🙂 ( I got married young) and poor wife started to realize in Jamaica that I was one complicated and an unconventional mess 🙁 for some reason she still puts up with me 🙂

          29. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I undesrtand “why” you went there..i mus tell you i never wanted to go.
            it’s getting very desagreable with the likes of LaborOrigine,
            i try to live my life without him, he won’t le me:)

          30. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Hindy Leborigine Is not worse than any of us, take my advice because I am your older brother and you are my buddy 🙂 ,HIND LIGHT!! don’t work youself up so much its bad for you friend. we are all on the same titanic. lets stay on the lighter side and not look in the rear view mirror for too long as this is not where we are going.

          31. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Reelii i’m telling you he tells people not be offended, his words are only
            for that hindi girl.. he’s ob-se-ss-ed- with me because i’m anti Zionist,
            yes he’s worst, see the Nazi discourse to me: In trial of Hariri killers..
            but i will listen to you:))

            And tomorow to “Elixire de Amore” by Donizetti, at Metropolitan NY..
            (on radio).

          32. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Thank you for listening Hind ,Big ((Hug)) 🙂

          33. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Thank you for listening Hind ,Big ((Hug)) 🙂

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Reelii i’m telling you he tells people not be offended, his words are only
            for that hindi girl.. he’s ob-se-ss-ed- with me because i’m anti Zionist,
            yes he’s worst, see the Nazi discourse to me: In trial of Hariri killers..
            but i will listen to you:))

            And tomorow to “Elixire de Amore” by Donizetti, at Metropolitan NY..
            (on radio).

          35. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hind. IS THAT why you went to Quebec?? 😉
            All the guys here think you are well-preserved … even if a little pickled. 😉

          36. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I was too young…cesse de proclamer q a tout le monde svp..merçi

          37. Lol I’ve been to New York but can’t say I saw him but it is a huge city. As for the jail instead of Jamaica, you will be offered more than just marihuana in jail 🙂

          38. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Geo, greeting to you first,and second your jealousy of my hairy strong good looking legs is becoming very obvious. Sorry I cant help you there. lol.
            I promise that I wont tell the whole world that you did model for skinny jeans and I wont post any of those pictures either.lol

          39. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Geo, greeting to you first,and second your jealousy of my hairy strong good looking legs is becoming very obvious. Sorry I cant help you there. lol.
            I promise that I wont tell the whole world that you did model for skinny jeans and I wont post any of those pictures either.lol

          40. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            lol Prophettttt, I knew that the quiet river in you runs very deep but I didn’t know you are a member of the even Steven club….Does this mean war as bugs bunny would say? man the things I have to do to lure you back into yalibnan 🙂

          41. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Very clever buddy, it has worked well,lol

          42. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            lol Prophettttt, I knew that the quiet river in you runs very deep but I didn’t know you are a member of the even Steven club….Does this mean war as bugs bunny would say? man the things I have to do to lure you back into yalibnan 🙂

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar

            OOOooooo … skinny jeans …. 😉 Never forgotten ….

          44. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I have ‘Sparrow’s Knee-caps’. You wouldn’t …..
            I know one woman who likes women’s legs best 😉 …

          45. Is she a lesbian?

          46. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Describes herself as a ‘Dyke Biker’. Only woman I know who can strip a motorcycle down and re-build it. 🙂
            Good to work with on other projects – knows how tools work. 😉
            Great ‘Tan-partner’. Good chat. Nothing fake. No expectations. :-)))

          47. Dykes tend to hate men but funnily enough they emulate men more than any other group. Dykes on bikes lead the mardi gras here

          48. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Really a good person. The ‘hate’ is not there – but don’t say the wrong thing….
            (Great body too … and that’s not saying a wrong thing. 😉
            Only small problem … if another shapely female walks by, both of us watch … interrupts conversations sometimes. :-))))
            (Btru2u would NEVER understand THIS conversation.)

          49. Then a lesbian must be to straight men what a gay man is to straight women. I’ve had female friends who have said the exact same thing about their gay mates and they can go out with their gay mates without their boyfriends getting jealous. So I try to stir trouble by asking them if they’re scared the gay mate will turn their boyfriend gay. I know that’s not how it works, it’s just to stir

          50. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Barabie: When people know each other, and are friends, an occasional little ‘shot’ seems permissible because it means nothing against the friendship. We admit we are all different characters in this world, and should avoid anything which will hurt – especially a friend. That’s common anyway. We can have ‘fun’ when the equality is recognized too. Even in a marriage, it’s the friendship that means more when going for the duration – and as we change over years, it IS better to have the chats about ‘who’ we are becoming.
            At least, between golf games or tennis matches or kid’s piano lessons. ;-))
            ‘WHY’ is an eternal question … and each also have a threshold of what we allow inside that ‘personal’ space. You need to discover ‘self’ in that, to be confident enough to face an unknown, and strangely over years you may find the ‘self’ changes too. Better if it opens rather than closes to the world, I think.
            We change ourselves.
            So, the ‘friend’ and their personal desires, and the boundaries once known, should not be made to feel pressured in the relationship, if both know the other.
            But a ‘tease’ on occasion can happen … and if laughter results, it’s good.

          51. Lol yeh they know it’s a tease.
            Do u touch type?

          52. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh wow … what a leading question !! (I will try to be straight …)
            hmmm …. wonder why you ask …
            I used to when there were typewriters. But I’m a two finger specialist now. 😉
            Sometimes use 3 or throw in a thumb … and I always try to ‘proof read’.
            Talk about regressing …. hehehe

          53. Was just asking coz I use my phone and it takes forever to type anything. Well not really forever but longer than it would if I was touch typing. So was curious if it took u ages for some of ur longer comments.

          54. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Only when I fall asleep writing.
            And I never use the phone for this … on that it’s only the one thumb.
            I watch the world on the ‘big screen’ … and your text too. :-))

          55. Was just asking coz I use my phone and it takes forever to type anything. Well not really forever but longer than it would if I was touch typing. So was curious if it took u ages for some of ur longer comments.

          56. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Is her name Licky? I might have met her 🙂

          57. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Rascal …
            I’m sure she would be happy to sand your (car) body … :-)))

          58. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            🙂 Cant be good all the time!!

          59. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (shhhh … I’m not either. 😉

          60. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Shhhh….I”am lesbian 🙂

          61. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And I like your cars … wanna take me for a ‘ride’? 😉

          62. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            which car, more than 1 less than 50 :)P

          63. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The Stutz Bearcat would be fine ….

          64. Hannibal Avatar

            Is that a trend? I am too… lol

          65. man-o-war Avatar

            “praises and declarations about women’s vaginas and breasts taste like wine”, really? I want some!

            Some Americans (and some Christians) “sin” by wearing short skirts, bikinis, watching porn, allow homosexuality, smoke/eat cannabis, drink alcohol, have pre-marital sex, seek joy…and so on.

            You glorify and justify “martyrdom operations”, take young girls for wives, practice polygamy, marry first cousins, smoke hookah, seek death … and so on.

            Some of us enjoy life in different ways, don’t judge. Leave the judging to God!

          66. 5thDrawer Avatar

            We are what we eat. 🙂
            I worked with a fellow who had dated a real Hawaiian girl. He could never forget her. He said she always tasted like pineapples.
            But, let’s understand why YOU think sex, and nudity, is bad … because some of us think all swimming activities should be done naked and we would reserve the worst bits of a beach with signs to say: ‘Clothing Area Only’.
            The ancients seemed to enjoy each other. The human species expanded. Then some ‘religious idiots’ began to see that others were enjoying more than them, so they made up ‘rules’. Even about ‘marriage’.
            Eventually (except in India), the only reason for sex was to have babies, the only position was ‘Missionary’, and there was no fun for the female generally – let alone in very weird tribes which cut off the sensory organs of women to guarantee they will only be baby-factories without any pleasure from it – something which, of course, was ascribed to a God who, in his infinite wisdom, had unfortunately suppled the actual parts which give pleasure. (hmmm .. can’t say God made a mistake. But we can adjust it without blaming Him. Right? Make a rule.) Oh, yes, and because the female does not return that ‘excitement of the moment’ now, it becomes rather boring – so we’ll just cover her up completely until the male with all the parts intact ‘feels’ he wants to stick it into something. (we can dull that a little by cutting off some skin – preferably, in the male case – when he’s too young to fight it.)
            Zoom forward a few centuries.
            Low and Behold, some humans DID find pleasure in it, and ALSO decided that BOTH sexes of the species should enjoy ‘the moment’, and they have been ‘sinfully’ sneaking around behind the backs of everyone else – ignoring the ‘God Theorists’ who made the ‘Rules of Engagement’. (Like those Indians – and perhaps a few Chinese who by this time had met Indians.)
            Even worse, they had begun to ‘out’ themselves !! They even had master painters putting visions of God’s Creations on the ceilings and walls of THEIR Tribe’s places to worship in. And some in Bars too. (Alcohol having been around too long and enjoyed too much to cut off completely – dingy unpleasant places were reserved for that sinful activity.)
            EVEN WORSE, the females had noted that there was something about their bodies which caused males to wish to give them pleasures previously unknown – and they FOUND enjoyment together.
            Only one answer for THAT stuff going on. Kill the bastards. Obviously.
            For sure, those religionists tried hard. EVERYWHERE. But besides enjoying sex it seems the sinful also had learned to fight for their pleasures in life. Oooops.
            (Indeed. They had even stopped asking “WHY does this feel good?”, and just did it – which in turn lead to having to research various complications caused by males just sticking it into anything available – the price of sin, the religionists said – but that in turn led to research and understanding and a new greeting between knowledgeable people … “Are you clean?”)
            Zoom again to the 21st century:
            The Last Words Of Wisdom from Noel Coward: ‘If Man Was Meant To Be Naked He Would Have Been Born That Way.’
            And thus, largely, it is only women who wear bikinis … or nothing … which seems strange to many of us anyway. The greatest loss caused by this, however, was a reduction of potential income by porn-magazine producers on a per-capita basis – although one must admit the male seems never to tire of admiring the rather gentler curves of the female … Something which God must have put into the psyche by mistake too – and we should all attempt to simply allow ‘the feeling’ to pass.
            Right Bru2u?? Unless, of course, you are still back in the ‘killing’ era.
            We DO see there are still some deranged humans who ‘can’t get enough’ and will stick a penis into anything … so there are still ‘rules’. But these are rules against causing pain, or suffering, rather than rules against pleasure – made by the whole tribe – males and females – in a democratic fashion using Logic, rather than by the religionists using Belief, since all the human evidence over time shows us that we are quite able to control ‘the feeling’ anyway.
            Which is why God gave us that wonderful brain. Right? 😉

          67. Now you’re talking my expertise, nakedness … I recall during my single days and that was long time ago while dancing with a hot looking chick on a packed dancing floor I dropped my pants. It took few seconds for her to look down and see me hanging low, she cracked up. People around us saw it, some thought it was the funniest think but some reported to the bouncer. By then I pulled my pants up. Now if I would have been caught they would have threw me out or charged me with indecency, go figure.

          68. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah yes … impetuous youth … when our hormones got control of the senses. 😉
            And that is why the laughter … an understanding of natural occurrence – with no malice in it. Nudity in itself is actually rather boring – unless there’s a cool breeze.
            :-)))
            A lot of ‘western’ clothing is actually uncomfortably restricting – and can cause skin problems when it doesn’t breathe well with plastic fabrics. Although the Eastern ‘robes’ were designed to allow the sand to fall out after the camel ride in a sandstorm, I think they also obviate that problem as well. The only reason I’d be against wearing one is weight. Bad enough with heavy winter gear when needed – although research has lightened both the weight and the breathing problems of some man-made fabrics while adding heat retention ability.
            The trick was to emulate Nature. Which is what I love to be OUT in. :-))

          69. man-o-war Avatar

            Mmmm, I love pineapples!

          70. There you Btru23

          71. ...some guy Avatar
            …some guy

            Now that I got it translated it is too funny libnan!! but why do you keep picking on 5th? the rest of us have bad habits too :):):)

          72. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Read the Nag Hammadi. Wow. No wonder some things were left out. :-)))))
            You prefer a book ‘written’ by ‘one’ Dictator. Lovely. :-))))
            You should stick with all it’s oldest verses at least.
            But I DO wonder where you get all those ‘stats’ from …..

      4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Absolutely, nothing less than 100% all else is a fail to the TRUTH. 99% is perfect Antichrist recipe. YOU choose it’s on your soul.

      5. Hannibal “A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison – its that 1% of poison (What you portray as truth) that will kill you!”.

        That metaphor was used by Ahmed Deedat decades ago inreference to the bible., This is the classic debate where Ahmed Deedat destroyed Jimmy Swaggart by proving that the Bible is the product of man with all the contradiction and not the infallible word of God as Christians claim. ,
        its good to see that the quraan is proved true your hating feeling, words and attitude to muslims, this only strengthens my faith, and certainty that islam is the right path, and ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
        The Assad war is being waged against the sunni muslims who are the vast majority OF VICTIMS, (say 90%) Christians who are divided ALWAYS sitiing on the wall like humpty dumpties, are not targeted but sometimes become collateral damage. They are now perceived to be ungratefully trying to hijack the good work done buy the muslims . typical parasites, who want to take the credit for our work,

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          There was no sectarisme in Syria.

          1. its a blessing to be able to differentiate between good and evil.
            we can leave evil alone but evil will not leave you alone, so the struggle continues…

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          I do not need a bible nor a qoran to know the truth or God… for He dwelleth in the heart of men… The good men who love their enemies more than themselves.

          My religion teaches me the following: “The thief cometh not but to steal and to kill and to destroy (ALL those with weapons fighting are from Satan). I come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

          Live life, as God granted you that, and live it MORE ABUNDANTLY, and do not steal life from others being different than you because when you kill a man you kill what God has created, a man to live an abundant life… In short, the Life of God is in the Soul of men… When you kill a man you are not Habib o el laah… You are doing Satan’s work AGAINST God.

          Ya collateral damage ya fa7esh ya abaday ya batal men waraa2 el keyboard… lol

          1. ok so you have invented your own religion,nothing new… A hating pacifist, that’s a good one.But I have already spoken about pacifism, it doesn’t provide justice. is your religion on a pdf file,or does it come by inspiration. everybody is wrong and you are right. so tell me what your religion teaches about self defence, and oppression.
            ana ihki bill haq ,wa inta bit maskhir

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Why would ANY teaching about ‘peace’ provide information on self-defence?
            For that, try Japan – or India where it originated. In Japan, a ‘Way of Life’, in various forms, of a philosophy based in Buddhist thoughts.
            Anything else is just fighting.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            you believe that you are gods soul? wasnt it moses that said the being of god made the mountain crumble? how could his soul be inside of you?
            The unification of human and god is a big misconception.
            possessive pronouns (my, your, his, hers, ours) have 2 geneal meanings depending on the content in which they are used, they may describ a possession or attribute which is or which is not part of its owner.
            ex. I put my hand on my couch
            Both belong to me but my hand is an attribute which is part of me and couch is possession which is not part of me.
            So when allahs commanded adams(peace be upon him) [no mother or father] spirit to be blown into him and also commanded it to be blown into mary the virgin, you cannot take it out of context and turn the spirit blown into him as allahs the almighties attribute (or a peice of allah soul). Therefore the command was
            BE, And it was (Quran(3:59) because allah the almighty created all things.

            Allah often rfers to things as HIS to emphasize the fact that he created them. Yet others are reffered to as his to indicate the special position of honour in which he views them.

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Semantics… Look deeper, meditate, and thou shalt feel him dwelleth within your heart.
            I am going to be kind and say that YOUR version of Islam is the wrong path… God will forgive you as you need guidance from an elder who is on the right path.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            It looks to me you follow the philosophy of “neoplatonism” i can easily debate you but seeing you are not interested then peace be with you. (Sallam 3allaykom)

          6. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            It looks to me you follow the philosophy of “neoplatonism” i can easily debate you but seeing you are not interested then peace be with you. (Sallam 3allaykom)

          7. Hannibal Avatar

            wa 3alaykom e-Salaam…

          8. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            It looks to me you follow the philosophy of “neoplatonism” i can easily debate you but seeing you are not interested then peace be with you. (Sallam 3allaykom)

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Sometimes I forget the couch entirely, and only put a hand in my crotch.
            Keeps me all ‘together’ and moves the spirit, harming none other. 🙂

        3. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Show the “good work”..

          1. HI HINDI, sorry if I offend anybody but I need to be a straight shooter, (excuse the pun)….. by the way whos that in the pic,

          2. Hannibal Avatar

            A dark angel of death….

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He’s non-Syrian person in Syria “working” to install Sharia 🙂

          4. Sharia shouldn’t bother you considering your dearly beloved Iran installed Sharia in Iran AND Iraq. You are one big contradiction.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Huhh? Go play in the trafic..! You make me puke!

          6. Very intelligent reply. Did you come up with that yourself or did you seek khameni’s help?

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            1- i dont know who is Kameni
            2- join the Leborigine same intelligence club
            3- show your black veil .

          8. Lol you claim to know insider information from HR and keep telling how intelligent you are but you don’t know who leads your terrorists?? This is hilarious.

          9. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Read again..case closed

          10. You also have comprehension issues.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And south Lebanon … 😉

        4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Ahmed deedat died a grotesque ungodly miserable death, and he is one of the souls in hell coping hot pineapples up his rectum. He’s now debating with other fools on his level in boiling faeces.

          1. Your logic states that dying a painful death means your going to hell, So did many persecuted martyrs die a painful death,…I thought it was the other way around, pain is an expiation of sins and then relief when you die……on the other hand the sinners will enjoy this world but pay the price for a lot longer. Am I asking too much for you to comprehend that. Hell was not created for people like Deedat, it was created for people like ASSAD,(the munaaafiq) AND HIS SUPPORTERS who will probably die a quick death, but I know he will suffer the worst punishment than any non believing kuffar….

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Judge a tree by it’s fruit, my friend the fruit of Christianity is abundantly the glorious saints victorious in living their lives accordingly to Gods pleasing, where on the other hand the fruit if Islam is blood, tears, anguish, shock, horror and death in all it’s forms accordingly to the devils pleasing. That is my logic and the logic that explains your noxious ideology and beliefs. Stop and compare the life lived as a devout Muslim compared to that of a Christian and it is obvious which tree bears the fruits of Gods pleasing.

          3. Even drug dealers drive nice cars, and live well…. is that how you judge ,,,,

          4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Regrettably, I can not respond to this coment due to your overwhelming lack of intelligence and understanding mainly due to the void in your heart where Gods grace would normally reside. To continue this conversation would be utterly a waste of precious words wasted on a person who’s fate is seemingly sealed in the misery of the rewards due to you and your conviction that you are enlightened.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            There is among people in this life, he whose speach will dazzle you. And he will call on allah as a witness to what is in his heart; Yet he will be among the most vicious of enemies.[2:204]
            You cannot designate certain people to be particularly pious or saintly to a dagree beyond the reach of ordinary humans.
            was it noit only in 1969 your “st christopher’ was found out to be a fraud of centuries of praying to him to ease your way in travel?? This alone oproves the corruption and double standards and contradictions of the man made bible.

          6. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            There is hope for you reasonable I think your chances are slim at best but you shouldn’t give up. Thankyou for your response it shows that you have a higher degree of understanding than others but I won’t mention names. I don’t think I am a person who dazzles with my speach as I know I am far from what I should be and I am not here to debate who is right and who is wrong. However, the insistance of some people continually posting references from the Koran, to insult people and belittle their beliefs will result in me adding my two cents. If you see me as a vicious enemy as per your Koran than that alone is suffice for me to discredit what is in it, as I am no vicious enemy of no one. If I am exposing your religion’s lies than the author of your Koran may call me an enemy but if he is righteous he would be confident that it can’t be exposed so there in it’s own self is a sign of it’s corruption and weakness’s. Our saints are incorruptible they lived life with no corruption and they surrendered their souls leaving behind incorrupt bodies preserved in a way science can not explain. One particular saint every one knows off is St Vincent his heart remains incorruptible to this day and we all know how it was his heart that made him a saint while alive, St Anthony of Padua never spoke a lie and was a doctor of the church till this day his tongue is incorrupt. These are some of the many examples Christianity has produced, while they guy who died feasting on a poisoned meal by his wife who he stole of her husband is the example you choose to follow. Good luck Reasonable.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The first Muslims’ belief in the Oneness of Allah (Tawheed), their knowledge of Him, their love for Him and their reliance on Him are what purified their souls, honed their ambitions and gave them a sense of pride and power; that enabled them to establish truth and justice, and motivated them to conquer lands, rule nations, ransom them from spiritual and intellectual slavery to soothsayers, rabbis, monks and clergy, liberate them from the injustice and tyranny of kings, establish the foundations of civilisation, and revive and develop different branches of science and technology. They were able to achieve all of that in an unprecedented manner that no other nation on earth had ever achieved or even come close. Gustave le Bon, the famous sociologist, said: Mastery of different branches of science and technology was not possible for any rising nation in less than three generations: the first generation clings to the past; the second generation started the process of freeing themselves from blind following; and the third generation is the generation of independence and hard work. (He said that this applies to all nations) except the Arabs; they are the only ones who were able to lay the foundation of science and technology in the first generation. I say: The cause of that was the teachings of the Qur’an, which taught them to be independent in thinking and to avoid blind imitation. It taught them to be prepared to lead mankind in spiritual and worldly matters alike. But all of that disappeared for subsequent generations, after the demise of the Islamic caliphate and after Arabic civilisation ceased to flourish, when power shifted to the non-Arabs who had nothing of Islam except superficial traditions and were not strongly connected to the guidance of the Qur’an

            C.moon marbolz don’t play damzel in distress i can find quite a number of chapters in the bible teaching not to be “yoked” with people who do not agree with your way of life (disbelievers). I don’t want to get into the debate but the feeling is mutual when Somebody classifies my faith as an enemy i will (with my limited knowledge) plead and defend the innocents of the featured matter.

            As for you being an enemy, i can understand we all come from different walks and we all want peace except we are on different pages. Therefore again we use our limited knowledge to understand the best path( doesnt mean easiest path) so being kind to you and you being kind to me is what is needed to form a relationship of understanding. I dont see you as an enemy you are a mate (who i probably know in real life).

          8. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Reasonable please spare me the Arab intelligence lecture, Arabs are uncomplicated simple easily conditioned slaves to anyone with a higher I.Q of 3. I as a Christian can honestly with my hand on my heart say that I wish peace and prosperity to all people and I know that i must treat everyone equally including Moslems. But you guys make it hard when you constantly shout out remarks that purposely show your lack of tolerance for others. My truths are offensive to you as are your truths offensive to me. There is only one Truth you have your version and I have mine in the meantime you probably need to figure out how to live with others without putting them off side. If I offend you it’s not from malice believe me.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            How about that pysco at campbell hill? If you get word that someone has found him please let me know so i can show him what sexual abuse feels like weilding a pole with barbed wire.

          10. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’m baffled, don’t know how he got out of there alive. He can run but it will catch up with him.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ma tinsah el massihieh bi souria ..

          12. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ahlan bi Hind, how can we forget we are jirarn.

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Reasonably, and logically, you can apply that quote to the dazzling of Btru2u.

          14. Do you really wanna judge Christianity by its “fruit”?

        5. Lol jimmy swaggart was busted using prostitutes while preaching against adultery and promiscuity.

        6. 5thDrawer Avatar

          You used ‘Swaggart’ as an example?? Hahahahahahahaha

          1. Well he was one of the leading evangelists during his time so he certainly had influence over large numbers of people.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Exactly. And all brain-dead or ‘faked out’ by Religion.

    2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Honestly, you need to keep your opinion locked up in some cave and shove those satanic quotes you keep posting up your ass. Your hadiths give me the runs just like your beliefs.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        hehehehe … they didn’t like that one. 😉

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Without doubt the most stupid people roaming the face of this earth are these rats. What really makes me so angry is what stupidity is capable of doing.

    3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Tilhus tezee, suhih.

  4. Quran 3:18 O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      From the beginning Satan has been deceiving humanity. Satan and his servants will masquerade as ministers of righteousness. Satan’s hoisting of false religions has been a very effective lie since it mixes in some truth. A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison – its that 1% of poison (What you portray as truth) that will kill you!

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        Well Said Hannibal. where the heck are you man? I need your help with that Hindy girl.. just kidding..

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          I love Hind…
          Don’t you dare 😉
          The way I see it: we will ALL someday meet in the middle to create a nation.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Might be a little tight, Hannibal. 🙂 Someone (I think a Monsanto freak), in trying to say that making more and more babies all the time is OK, calculated the world’s population could fit into Texas. Wouldn’t THAT be a horrid place to meet. :-)))
            (Unless you were face to face with Hind, perhaps … 😉

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Little is known of Texas… mostly preconceptions and Western movies…
            One thing though, the Lone Star State has a very big heart and will be happy to adopt the population of the whole world.
            Texans take your comment as a compliment and can’t wait to have you for a scotch or two 😉

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Thanks Mekenseh … there’s a little cowgirl down there been trying to get me to visit for a while … I contemplate a long drive on occasion … it’s getting across the border that’s tricky, and with all the terrorists whacking at the USA I’m not sure if it would be more safe than a Beirut-Landing. :-)))))
            And, if I did that, I’d feel guilty if I didn’t visit the one in Northern Mexico as well.
            That’s TWO borders – not counting all the ones between states. :-)))))))

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Anytime,
            PS: don’t bring the other 7 billions with you, I was just kidding

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            PS2: I’m not driving you to a date with a cowgirl. You’re on your own for that part.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ok. No 7 billion. Maybe the Mexican has a friend for you … after my rodeo. ;-)))

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            look at you all fired up for a southern brunette.
            you’d make a good Texan

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s it. Coffee break. :-))))))))

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, and I know why it’s a ‘Lone Star’. Pecos Bill shot out all the rest. 🙂

          10. nagy_michael2 Avatar
            nagy_michael2

            I can’t mess with her she is too strong headed..lol

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Extrapolating with run-on ‘dialogues’ what was the simple to begin with … confuses the main subject with extraneous garbage … hmmm … something like ‘Hadiths’? ;-)))

      3. Indisputable truth!! He has thousands of years of experience on stupid humans that think they know everything by the age of 10 .

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          What Satan, Mephisto or Lucifer?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Lately, considering the popular TV & Movie themes, it seem to be Vlad the Impaler. ;-)))

        2. “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

          Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and the idolaters could not have been freed till clear evidence came to them —

          A Messenger from Allah, reciting pure pages,

          Wherein are (all) right books.

          Nor did those to whom the Book was given become divided till clear evidence came to them.

          And they are enjoined naught but to serve Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience, upright and to keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and that is the right religion.

          Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and the idolaters will be in the Fire of Hell, abiding therein. They are the worst of creatures.

          Those who believe and do good, they are the best of creatures.

          Their reward is with their Lord: Gardens of perpetuity wherein flow rivers, abiding therein forever. Allah is well-pleased with them and they are well-pleased with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord”.
          Amazing how divided the truth makes people, don’t you think.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            You forgot the believers who do bad.

          2. “[006:082] Those who believe and mix not up their belief with injustice – it is they who shall have peace, and who are rightly guided. “

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Quite interesting the other day the australian university in an uprecedented statement compared shorts in the workplace “unproffessional” for men yet women wearing mini skirts and jeans and pants(anything above the knee) with the private parts literally imprinted for the world to see as proffessional. Maybe the public is slowley awakening from its slumber and are beggining to realise how the multibillion dollar industry of porn has effected us.

            Just recently (3 yrs ago) they discovered using water to clean you “ass” is a much more socially acceptable form of cleanliness. Whilst they used to mock muslims and some ignorant still do.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, what a conundrum I am. I never wear shorts but swim nude, always liked mini-skirts above good legs only, and thought the bidet was a simply wonderful invention, as it saved trees at the same time as giving that oh-so-clean feeling.
            (best used in a country with water, of course 😉

          5. That reminds of doctors. Up until the 1840’s the medical manuals in the west stated “it’s unhygienic to wash your hands before an examination of a patient or before performing an operation”. Queen Elizabeth the first bathed only twice in her entire life. Queen Isabel of Spain only bathed once. The church at that time banned washing coz the “devil” (aka Muslims) washed. Humans are a joke.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The ‘old’ saying (not really so old) … ‘Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.’, – meaning don’t get rid of ALL of a concept if part of it works (which could be applied to some things about religion as well as machinery) – ostensibly came from a time when the male bathed first, the woman second, and each kid in succession after – for the ‘Once-a-week’ bath – in a large family totally black water at the end might lose the baby. :-))
            This is not proven to have happened, anywhere. (Maybe in The Ozaraks :-)))
            Some early pioneers of North America bathed once a year – in their long underwear, which washed that at the same time. ;-))))
            I had an aunt, of which it was said: ‘She could bathe in a thimble-full of water.’
            :-))))))) (whewie – yah … a little dodgy giving a kiss of greeting on a cheek)
            In human history, the concepts of hygiene have certainly varied. I’m sure a lot of things were probably lost to ‘the doctors’ when Egypt’s Library at Alexandria was burned – lost to later Europeans for sure.
            But people of warm climates and warm waters – especially those Romans – sure knew how to run water all over the place, and to heat it, to make a bath … built them all over the place … and even had one going in England.
            Still there. Still named Bath. A Marvellous thing.
            What happened??
            RELIGION. :-))))
            Now everyone just takes showers. Don’t even sit in water anymore. Weird.
            But you should REALLY try a bath in Japan. They out-did the Romans. 😉

          7. Who destoyed the great library of Alexander? The ancestors of the ones who destroyed the cradle of civilisation, Iraq. Our resident contradiction keeps screaming and shouting in defense of Iran but the Iranian militias were the ones who drove Christians out of Iraq.

          8. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Come on Reason, how can you compare women’s legs to men’s legs! Are you trying to tell me that you wouldn’t look at a good pair of legs in a mini skirt? Its Allah’s creation and Allah wants you to appreciate his work of art. You can choose not to look at the private parts, but at least you know why she whistles when she walks!

          9. So you would be happy people perving at ur wife or sister or even mother? In life one needs a certain decency and although its far from fair, fairness. If women can wear mini skirts then men should be allowed to wear shorts. I would prefer to look at a man’s legs over a woman’s any day

          10. If you ever go to new York in the winter you will recognize the Prophettttt as the only man that wears shorts all year round 🙂 seriously I got into an argument with a rasta man in Jamaica trying to sell me marijuana and when I told him I don’t partake due to spiritual reasons he got indignant and lectured me that I was offending God for not consuming the vegetation. Any prison for 2 weeks would have been more fun than 2 weeks in jamaica1! I HATED IT BEING THERE.

          11. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            I hope Prophettttt has the good legs to go with the shorts…LOL

          12. Having lived in gods waiting room for 18 years(florida) most seniors have the same dress code as you described. and when they are driving (as they shouldnt) they are affectionatly called Q tips :)P

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Bastard.
            :-)))))

          14. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            lol, we just can’t get a response from Prophetttttt

          15. I got a text from him…He is looking for new friends! zionists to the south and abusive Geo to the north, I finally pushed him over the edge 🙂

          16. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            ay be pushing your luck a little, don’t you think. Listen to this one and may be Prophettttt will read it too: an old couple who has been married for over 60 years, one night they were bored and didn’t know what to do, the old man looked at the old lady and said how about if we watch a porn movie, the old lady smiled at him and said sure, he played the movie, half way through it, he fell asleep while she watched every second of it. When the movie was over, she looked at him angrily and yelled, honey… he didn’t answer, of course her voice got louder, honey…honey, finally he woke up and he said to her, what do you want, she looked at him and said, you know something, for over 60 years we have been doing it all wrong, just all wrong…..

          17. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Peresistent, Hope all is well. Geo is telling the truth that I walk around with shorts in sub-degree weather sometimes.I just have to be careful on how much info I should tell him from now and on. He can not keep a secret.lol

          18. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            Thanks for asking Prophettttt, everything is fine on this end and I hope the same on your side as well. I suppose they are good secrets to reveal, Geo means well though. I suppose, at times the temperature in NY is comparable to Bent Jbeil.

          19. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Persistent, Thanks and Congratulation to your daughter on her graduation and on her new job. I also want to congratulate you on rushing yourself to be a member of the old retirees club. I just don’t understand why you are in a hurry .lol
            As for my friend Geo, He can only mean well; He is genetically designed incapable of harming ,not even when he is being mischievous.

          20. Far too kind prophetttt, But you know how reverse psychology works Now I have to go break something or get arrested to prove that I am not so innocent 🙂

          21. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            Thanks again, At this time I am just thinking about it, politics, deadlines, budgeting and bureaucracy that goes along with my job is driving me in that direction. BTW I am not all that old but I just started early. lol…, I still got slightly over 15 years before I can even begin to draw SS. I just want to come out of my job intact and start doing what I have always wanted to do and that is traveling certain parts of the world. I am not planning on confining myself to a rocking chair.

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It CAN be that way, Persistently …. Health is the thing to keep.
            Try to keep others from driving you into a bad one.

          23. Persistent Avatar
            Persistent

            So true!!

          24. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s the “formal’ style. 😉 Just like a good Scottish Kilt.

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar

            One brother worked there for a year. In the mountains. He ‘went native’. :-))))))
            When the company told him the next spot was Kingston, he got out. 😉

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Where did you get the idea to go to Jamaica:))?
            I read women are best preserved in cold wheater.

          27. HIndy It was related to saying “I do” 28 years ago 🙂 ( I got married young) and poor wife started to realize in Jamaica that I was one complicated and an unconventional mess 🙁 for some reason she still puts up with me 🙂

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I undesrtand “why” you went there..i mus tell you i never wanted to go.
            it’s getting very desagreable with the likes of LaborOrigine, i try to live my life without him, he won’t le me:)

          29. Hindy Leborigine Is not worse than any of us, take my advice because I am your older brother and you are m y buddy 🙂 ,HIND LIGHT!! don’t work youself up so much its bad for you friend. we are all on the same titanic. lets stay on the lighter side and not look in the rear view mirror for too long as this is not where we are going.

          30. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Reelii i’m telling you he tells people not be offended, his words are only
            for that hindi girl.. he’s ob-se-ss-ed- with me because i’m anti Zionist,
            yes he’s worst, see the Nazi discourse to me: In trial of Hariri killers..
            but i will listen to you:))

            And tomorow to “Elixire de Amore” by Donizetti, at Metropolitan NY..
            (on radio).

          31. Thank you for listening Hind ,Big ((Hug)) 🙂

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hind. IS THAT why you went to Quebec?? 😉

          33. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I was too young…cesse de proclamer q a tout le monde svp..merçi

          34. Lol I’ve been to New York but can’t say I saw him but it is a huge city. As for the jail instead of Jamaica, you will be offered more than just marihuana in jail 🙂

          35. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Geo, greeting to you first,and second your jealousy of my hairy strong good looking legs is becoming very obvious. Sorry I cant help you there. lol.
            I promise that I wont tell the whole world that you did model for skinny jeans and I wont post any of those pictures either.lol

          36. lol Prophettttt, I knew that the quiet river in you runs very deep but I didn’t know you are a member of the even Steven club….Does this mean war as bugs bunny would say? man the things I have to do to lure you back into yalibnan 🙂

          37. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Very clever buddy, it has worked well,lol

          38. 5thDrawer Avatar

            OOOooooo … skinny jeans …. 😉 Never forgotten ….

          39. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I have ‘Sparrow’s Knee-caps’. You wouldn’t …..

          40. Is she a lesbian?

          41. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Describes herself as a ‘Dyke Biker’. Only woman I know who can strip a motorcycle down and re-build it. 🙂
            Good to work with on other projects – knows how tools work. 😉
            Great ‘Tan-partner’. Good chat. No expectations. :-)))

          42. Dykes tend to hate men but funnily enough they emulate men more than any other group. Dykes on bikes lead the mardi gras here

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Really a good person. The ‘hate’ is not there – but don’t say the wrong thing….

          44. Then a lesbian must be to straight men what a gay man is to straight women. I’ve had female friends who have said the exact same thing about their gay mates and they can go out with their gay mates without their boyfriends getting jealous. So I try to stir trouble by asking them if they’re scared the gay mate will turn their boyfriend gay. I know that’s not how it works, it’s just to stir

          45. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Barabie: When people know each other, and are friends, an occasional little ‘shot’ seems permissible because it means nothing against the friendship. We admit we are all different characters in this world, and should avoid anything which will hurt – especially a friend. That’s common anyway. We can have ‘fun’ when the equality is recognized too. Even in a marriage, it’s the friendship that means more when going for the duration – and as we change over years, it IS better to have the chats about ‘who’ we are becoming.
            At least, between golf games or tennis matches or kid’s piano lessons. ;-))
            ‘WHY’ is an eternal question … and each also have a threshold of what we allow inside that ‘personal’ space. You need to discover ‘self’ in that, to be confident enough to face an unknown, and strangely over years you may find the ‘self’ changes too. Better if it opens rather than closes to the world, I think.
            We change ourselves.
            So, the ‘friend’ and their personal desires, and the boundaries once known, should not be made to feel pressured in the relationship, if both know the other.
            But a ‘tease’ on occasion can happen … and if laughter results, it’s good.

          46. Lol yeh they know it’s a tease.
            Do u touch type?

          47. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh wow … what a leading question !! (I will try to be straight …)
            hmmm …. wonder why you ask …
            I used to when there were typewriters. But I’m a two finger specialist now. 😉
            Sometimes use 3 or throw in a thumb … and I always try to ‘proof read’.
            Talk about regressing …. hehehe

          48. Was just asking coz I use my phone and it takes forever to type anything. Well not really forever but longer than it would if I was touch typing. So was curious if it took u ages for some of ur longer comments.

          49. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Only when I fall asleep writing.
            And I never use the phone for this … on that it’s only the one thumb.

          50. Is her name Licky? I might have met her 🙂

          51. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Rascal …
            I’m sure she would be happy to sand your (car) body … :-)))

          52. 🙂 Cant be good all the time!!

          53. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (shhhh … I’m not either. 😉

          54. Shhhh….I”am lesbian 🙂

          55. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And I like your cars … 😉

          56. which car, more than 1 less than 50 :)P

          57. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The Stutz Bearcat would be fine ….

          58. Hannibal Avatar

            Is that a trend? I am too… lol

          59. man-o-war Avatar

            “praises and declarations about women’s vaginas and breasts taste like wine”, really? I want some!

            Some Americans (and some Christians) “sin” by wearing short skirts, bikinis, watching porn, allow homosexuality, smoke/eat cannabis, drink alcohol, have pre-marital sex, seek joy…and so on.

            You glorify and justify “martyrdom operations”, take young girls for wives, practice polygamy, marry first cousins, smoke hookah, seek death … and so on.

            Some of us enjoy life in different ways, don’t judge. Leave the judging to God!

          60. 5thDrawer Avatar

            We are what we eat. 🙂
            I worked with a fellow who had dated a real Hawaiian girl. He could never forget her. He said she always tasted like pineapples.
            But, let’s understand why YOU think sex, and nudity, is bad … because some of us think all swimming activities should be done naked and we would reserve the worst bits of a beach with signs to say: ‘Clothing Area Only’.
            The ancients seemed to enjoy each other. The human species expanded. Then some ‘religious idiots’ began to see that others were enjoying more than them, so they made up ‘rules’. Even about ‘marriage’.
            Eventually (except in India), the only reason for sex was to have babies, the only position was ‘Missionary’, and there was no fun for the female generally – let alone in very weird tribes which cut off the sensory organs of women to guarantee they will only be baby-factories without any pleasure from it – something which, of course, was ascribed to God who, in his infinite wisdom, had unfortunately suppled the actual parts which give pleasure. (hmmm .. can’t say God made a mistake. But we can adjust it without blaming Him. Right? Make a rule.) Oh, yes, and because the female does not return that ‘excitement of the moment’ now, it becomes rather boring – so we’ll just cover her up completely until the male with all the parts ‘feels’ he wants to stick it into something.
            Zoom forward a few centuries.
            Low and Behold, some humans DID find pleasure in it, and ALSO decided that BOTH sexes of the species should enjoy ‘the moment’, and they have been ‘sinfully’ sneaking around behind the backs of everyone else – ignoring the ‘God Theorists’ who made the ‘Rules of Engagement’. (Like those Indians – and perhaps a few Chinese who by this time had met Indians.)
            Even worse, they had begun to ‘out’ themselves !! They even had master painters putting visions of God’s Creations on the ceilings and walls of THEIR Tribe’s places to worship in. And some in Bars too. (Alcohol having been around too long and enjoyed too much to cut off completely – dingy unpleasant places were reserved for that sinful activity.)
            EVEN WORSE, the females had noted that there was something about their bodies which caused males to wish to give them pleasures previously unknown – and they FOUND enjoyment together.
            Only one answer for THAT stuff going on. Kill the bastards. Obviously.
            For sure, those religionists tried hard. EVERYWHERE. But besides enjoying sex it seems the sinful also had learned to fight for their pleasures in life. Oooops.
            (Indeed. They had even stopped asking “WHY does this feel good?”, and just did it – which in turn lead to having to research various complications caused by males just sticking it into anything available – the price of sin, the religionists said – but that in turn led to research and understanding and a new greeting between knowledgeable people … “Are you clean?”)
            Zoom again to the 21st century:
            The Last Words Of Wisdom from Noel Coward: ‘If Man Was Meant To Be Naked He Would Have Been Born That Way.’
            And thus, largely, it is only women who wear bikinis … or nothing … which seems strange to many of us anyway. The greatest loss caused by this, however, was a reduction of potential income by porn-magazine producers on a per-capita basis – although one must admit the male seems never to tire of admiring the rather gentler curves of the female … Something which God must have put into the psyche by mistake too – and we should all attempt to simply allow ‘the feeling’ to pass.
            Right Bru2u?? Unless, of course, you are still back in the ‘killing’ era.
            We DO see there are still some deranged humans who ‘can’t get enough’ and will stick it into anything … so there are still ‘rules’. But these are rules against causing pain, or suffering, rather than rules against pleasure – made by the whole tribe – males and females – in a democratic fashion using Logic, rather than by the religionists using Belief, since all the human evidence over time shows us that we are quite able to control ‘the feeling’ anyway.
            Which is why God gave us that wonderful brain. Right? 😉

          61. Now you’re talking my expertise, nakedness … I recall during my single days and that was long time ago while dancing with a hot looking chick on a packed dancing floor I dropped my pants. It took few seconds for her to look down and see me hanging low, she cracked up. People around us saw it, some thought it was the funniest think but some reported to the bouncer. By then I pulled my pants up. Now if I would have been caught they would have threw me out or charged me with indecency, go figure.

          62. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah yes … impetuous youth … when our hormones got control of the senses. 😉
            And that is why the laughter … an understanding of natural occurrence – with no malice in it. Nudity in itself is actually rather boring – unless there’s a cool breeze.
            :-)))

          63. man-o-war Avatar

            Mmmm, I love pineapples!

          64. There you Btru23

          65. Now that I got it translated it is too funny libnan!! but why do you keep picking on 5th? the rest of us have bad habits too :):):)

          66. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Read the Nag Hammadi. Wow. No wonder some things were left out. :-)))))
            You prefer a book ‘written’ by ‘one’ Dictator. Lovely. :-))))
            You should stick with all it’s oldest verses at least.
            But I DO wonder where you get all those ‘stats’ from …..

      4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Absolutely, nothing less than 100% all else is a fail to the TRUTH. 99% is perfect Antichrist recipe. YOU choose it’s on your soul.

      5. Hannibal “A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison – its that 1% of poison (What you portray as truth) that will kill you!”.

        That metaphor was used by Ahmed Deedat decades ago inreference to the bible., This is the classic debate where Ahmed Deedat destroyed Jimmy Swaggart by proving that the Bible is the product of man with all the contradiction and not the infallible word of God as Christians claim. ,
        its good to see that the quraan is proved true your hating feeling, words and attitude to muslims, this only strengthens my faith, and certainty that islam is the right path, and ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
        The Assad war is being waged against the sunni muslims who are the vast majority OF VICTIMS, (say 90%) Christians who are divided ALWAYS sitiing on the wall like humpty dumpties, are not targeted but sometimes become collateral damage. They are now perceived to be ungratefully trying to hijack the good work done buy the muslims . typical parasites, who want to take the credit for our work,

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          There was no sectarisme in Syria.

          1. its a blessing to be able to differentiate between good and evil.
            we can leave evil alone but evil will not leave you alone, so the struggle continues…

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          I do not need a bible nor a qoran to know the truth or God… for He dwelleth in the heart of men… The good men who love their enemies more than themselves.

          My religion teaches me the following: “The thief cometh not but to steal and to kill and to destroy (ALL those with weapons fighting are from Satan). I come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

          Live life, as God granted you that, and live it MORE ABUNDANTLY, and do not steal life from others being different than you because when you kill a man you kill what God has created, a man to live an abundant life… In short, the Life of God is in the Soul of men… When you kill a man you are not Habib o el laah… You are doing Satan’s work AGAINST God.

          Ya collateral damage ya fa7esh ya abaday ya batal men waraa2 el keyboard… lol

          1. ok so you have your own invented religion, A hating pacifist, that’s a good one. is it on a pdf file. everybody is wrong and you are right. so tell me what your religion teaches about self defence, and oppression

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Why would any teaching about ‘peace’ provide information on self-defence?
            For that, try Japan – or India where it originated.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            you believe that you are gods soul? wasnt it oses that said the being of god made the mountain crumble? how could his sol be inside of you?
            The unification of human and god is a big misconception.
            possessive pronouns (my, your, his, hers, ours) have 2 geneal meanings depending on the content in which they are used, they may describ a possession or attribute which is or which is not part of its owner.
            ex. I put my hand on my couch
            Both belong to me but my hand is an attribute which is part of me and couch is possession which is not part of me.
            So when allahs commanded adams(peace be upon him) [no mother or father] spirit to be blown into him and also commanded it to be blown into mary the virgin, you cannot take it out of context and turn the spirit blown into him as allahs the almighties attribute (or a peice of allah soul). Therefore the command was
            BE, And it was (Quran(3:59)
            Allah often rfers to things as HIS to emphasize the fact that he created them. Yet others are reffered to as his to indicate the special position of honour in which he views them.

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Semantics… Look deeper, meditate, and thou shalt feel him dwelleth within your heart.
            I am going to be kind and say that YOUR version of Islam is the wrong path… God will forgive you as you need guidance from an elder who is on the right path.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            It looks to me you follow the philosophy of “neoplatonism” i can easily debate you but seeing you are not interested then peace be with you. (Sallam 3allaykom)

          6. Hannibal Avatar

            wa 3alaykom e-Salaam…

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Sometimes I forget the couch entirely, and only put a hand in my crotch.
            Keeps me all ‘together’ and moves the spirit, harming none other. 🙂

        3. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Show the “good work”..

          1. HI HINDI, sorry if I offend anybody but I need to be a straight shooter, (excuse the pun)….. by the way whos that in the pic,

          2. Hannibal Avatar

            A dark angel of death….

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            He’s non-Syrian person in Syria “working” to install Sharia 🙂

          4. Sharia shouldn’t bother you considering your dearly beloved Iran installed Sharia in Iran AND Iraq. You are one big contradiction.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Huhh? Go play in the trafic..! You make me puke!

          6. Very intelligent reply. Did you come up with that yourself or did you seek khameni’s help?

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            1- i dont know who is Kameni
            2- join the Leborigine club
            3- he’s as intelligent as you.

          8. Lol you claim to know insider information from HR and keep telling how intelligent you are but you don’t know who leads your terrorists?? This is hilarious.

          9. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Read again..case closed

          10. You also have comprehension issues.

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And south Lebanon … 😉

        4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Ahmed deedat died a grotesque ungodly miserable death, and he is one of the souls in hell coping hot pineapples up his rectum. He’s now debating with other fools on his level in boiling faeces.

          1. Your logic states that dying a painful death means your going to hell, So did many persecuted martyrs die a painful death,…I thought it was the other way around, pain is an expiation of sins and then relief when you die……on the other hand the sinners will enjoy this world but pay the price for a lot longer. Am I asking too much for you to comprehend that. Hell was not created for people like Deedat, it was created for people like ASSAD,(the munaaafiq) AND HIS SUPPORTERS who will probably die a quick death, but I know he will suffer the worst punishment than any non believing kuffar….

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Judge a tree by it’s fruit, my friend the fruit of Christianity is abundantly the glorious saints victorious in living their lives accordingly to Gods pleasing, where on the other hand the fuit if Islam is blood, tears, anguish, shock, horror and death in all it’s forms accordingly to the devils pleasing. That is my logic and the logic that explains your noxious ideology and beliefs. Stop and compare the life lived as a devout Muslim compared to that of a Christian and it is obvious which tree bears the fruits of Gods pleasing.

          3. Even drug dealers drive nice cars, and live well…. is that how you judge ,,,,

          4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Regrettably, I can not respond to this coment due to your overwhelming lack of intelligence and understanding mainly due to the void in your heart where Gods grace would normally reside. To continue this conversation would be utterly a waste of precious words wasted on a person who’s fate is seemingly sealed in the misery of the rewards due to you and your conviction that you are enlightened.

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            There is among people in this life, he whose speach will dazzle you. And he will call on allah as a witness to what is in his heart; Yet he will be among the most vicious of enemies.[2:204]
            You cannot designate certain people to be particularly pious or saintly to a dagree beyond the reach of ordinary humans.
            was it noit only in 1969 your “st christopher’ was found out to be a fraud of centuries of praying to him to ease your way in travel?? This alone oproves the corruption and double standards and contradictions of the man made bible.

          6. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            There is hope for you reasonable I think your chances are slim at best but you shouldn’t give up. Thankyou for your response it shows that you have a higher degree of understanding than others but I won’t mention names. I don’t think I am a person who dazzles with my speach as I know I am far from what I should be and I am not here to debate who is right and who is wrong. However, the insistance of some people continually posting references from the Koran, to insult people and belittle their beliefs will result in me adding my two cents. If you see me as a vicious enemy as per your Koran than that alone is suffice for me to discredit what is in it, as I am no vicious enemy of no one. If I am exposing your religion’s lies than the author of your Koran may call me an enemy but if he is righteous he would be confident that it can’t be exposed so there in it’s own self is a sign of it’s corruption and weakness’s. Our saints are incorruptible they lived life with no corruption and they surrendered their souls leaving behind incorrupt bodies preserved in a way science can not explain. One particular saint every one knows off is St Vincent his heart remains incorruptible to this day and we all know how it was his heart that made him a saint while alive, St Anthony of Padua never spoke a lie and was a doctor of the church till this day his tongue is incorrupt. These are some of the many examples Christianity has produced, while they guy who died feasting on a poisoned meal by his wife who he stole of her husband is the example you choose to follow. Good luck Reasonable.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            The first Muslims’ belief in the Oneness of Allah (Tawheed), their knowledge of Him, their love for Him and their reliance on Him are what purified their souls, honed their ambitions and gave them a sense of pride and power; that enabled them to establish truth and justice, and motivated them to conquer lands, rule nations, ransom them from spiritual and intellectual slavery to soothsayers, rabbis, monks and clergy, liberate them from the injustice and tyranny of kings, establish the foundations of civilisation, and revive and develop different branches of science and technology. They were able to achieve all of that in an unprecedented manner that no other nation on earth had ever achieved or even come close. Gustave le Bon, the famous sociologist, said: Mastery of different branches of science and technology was not possible for any rising nation in less than three generations: the first generation clings to the past; the second generation started the process of freeing themselves from blind following; and the third generation is the generation of independence and hard work. (He said that this applies to all nations) except the Arabs; they are the only ones who were able to lay the foundation of science and technology in the first generation. I say: The cause of that was the teachings of the Qur’an, which taught them to be independent in thinking and to avoid blind imitation. It taught them to be prepared to lead mankind in spiritual and worldly matters alike. But all of that disappeared for subsequent generations, after the demise of the Islamic caliphate and after Arabic civilisation ceased to flourish, when power shifted to the non-Arabs who had nothing of Islam except superficial traditions and were not strongly connected to the guidance of the Qur’an

            C.moon marbolz don’t play damzel in distress i can find quite a number of chapters in the bible teaching not to be “yoked” with people who do not agree with your way of life (disbelievers). I don’t want to get into the debate but the feeling is mutual when Somebody classifies my faith as an enemy i will (with my limited knowledge) plead and defend the innocents of the featured matter.

            As for you being an enemy, i can understand we all come from different walks and we all want peace except we are on different pages. Therefore again we use our limited knowledge to understand the best path( doesnt mean easiest path) so being kind to you and you being kind to me is what is needed to form a relationship of understanding. I dont see you as an enemy you are a mate (who i probably know in real life).

          8. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Reasonable please spare me the Arab intelligence lecture, Arabs are uncomplicated simple easily conditioned slaves to anyone with a higher I.Q of 3. I as a Christian can honestly with my hand on my heart say that I wish peace and prosperity to all people and I know that i must treat everyone equally including Moslems. But you guys make it hard when you constantly shout out remarks that purposely show your lack of tolerance for others. My truths are offensive to as are your truths offensive to me. There is only one Truth you have your version and I have mine in the meantime you probably need to figure out how to live with others without putting them off side. If I offend you it’s not from malice believe me.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            How about that pysco at campbell hill? If you get word that someone has found him please let me know so i can show him what sexual abuse feels like weilding a pole with barbed wire.

          10. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’m baffled, don’t know how he got out of there alive. He can run but it will catch up with him.

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ma tinsah el massihieh bi souria ..

          12. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ahlan bi Hind, how can we forget we are jirarn.

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Reasonably, and logically, you can apply that quote to the dazzling of Bru2u.

          14. Do you really wanna judge Christianity by its “fruit”?

        5. Lol jimmy swaggart was busted using prostitutes while preaching against adultery and promiscuity.

        6. 5thDrawer Avatar

          You used ‘Swaggart’ as an example?? Hahahahahahahaha

          1. Well he was one of the leading evangelists during his time so he certainly had influence over large numbers of people.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Exactly. And all brain-dead or ‘faked out’ by Religion.

    2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Honestly, you need to keep your opinion locked up in some cave and shove those satanic quotes you keep posting up your ass. Your hadiths give me the runs just like your beliefs.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        hehehehe … they didn’t like that one. 😉

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Without doubt the most stupid people roaming the face of this earth are these rats. What really makes me so angry is what stupidity is capable of doing.

    3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Tilhus tezee, suhih.

  5. some people just can’t hear the truth…so ok he apologized to avoid a diplomatic incident, still every word he said is truth
    kerry is delutional in his grasp of ME realities
    without IDF , abbas would be dead in a day
    kerry can’t teach Yaalon anything new about the palis
    only the guilty are offended by truth

  6. some people just can’t hear the truth…so ok he apologized to avoid a diplomatic incident, still every word he said is truth
    kerry is delutional in his grasp of ME realities
    without IDF , abbas would be dead in a day
    kerry can’t teach Yaalon anything new about the palis
    only the guilty are offended by truth

  7. Judge: “Mr. smith, you’re here on the accusation of calling mrs. jones a cow.
    it is forbidden to call a lady a cow and you must apologize!”
    Mr.smith: “i understand your honor, but is it ok to call a cow, lady?”
    Judge:” hmmm….i see nothing wrong with that.”
    Mr.Smith:”lady, i apologize”
    :))

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      LOL …. good one. 🙂

      1. thanks 5th’ got a better one for you 🙂
        how can you tell who is your best friend, your wife or your dog?
        dump both of them in the trunk of your car.
        come back in two hours and see who is happy to see you :))))

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Ooooo … nasty … hope your wife doesn’t read this weird site. :-))))

          1. nope, but the girlfriend hates my sense of humor :))
            i keep telling her i’m laughing with her, not at her but somehow she doesn’t believe me..
            probably cause i’m a lying good for nothing zionist lol

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            oh c’mon, you’re not a lying good for nothing zionist
            you’re just a lying good for nothing.

          3. didn’t i tell you good bye sometime ago?

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            you didn’t kiss goodbye
            doesn’t count if you don’t give me one on each cheek just like Judas did

          5. if only i knew..
            did you know jesus wasn’t the mesiach and never really came back to life?

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Not only do I know that, I’m sure of it!
            But did YOU know that David/Israel was schizophrenic (two names) and all his conversations with Yahweh about the promised land and its borders were nothing but a drunken monologue that earned him the title of king of hallucinations?

          7. and did you know that israel is the second name of jacob and not david?
            lol so arrogant…so proud….and yet knows nothing :))))

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            and what was the name of Abraham grandson, who sold his “first born title” for a plate of lentils?

          9. eisav is the name.
            acording to legends he was a wild man and a rober and is considered the father of amalek

          10. Patience2 Avatar

            Red lentils?

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Orange lentils..?

          12. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Potatoes/potatos
            all characters of a story written thousands of years ago by writers who wouldn’t pass first grade today.
            do you know the names of all the Star Wars characters? Because they have a base of readers much larger than that of the Torah…

          13. don’t turn that at me ,you’re the one that started this “i’m smart: thing. i just point to where you’re wrong 😉

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Western Roman Church said he ressucitated, not Eastern Orthodox Church.

          15. there you go, first diversity right there
            hey hind, sorry about the canedian not ME thing , was feeling up to a fight 🙂

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t know they did CPR back then … hmmm …

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ha..hah..!

  8. Judge: “Mr. smith, you’re here on the accusation of calling mrs. jones a cow.
    it is forbidden to call a lady a cow and you must apologize!”
    Mr.smith: “i understand your honor, but is it ok to call a cow, lady?”
    Judge:” hmmm….i see nothing wrong with that.”
    Mr.Smith:”lady, i apologize”
    :))

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      LOL …. good one. 🙂

      1. thanks 5th’ got a better one for you 🙂
        how can you tell who is your best friend, your wife or your dog?
        dump both of them in the trunk of your car.
        come back in two hours and see who is glad to see you :))))

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Ooooo … nasty … hope your wife doesn’t read this weird site. :-))))

          1. nope, but the girlfriend hates my sense of humor :))
            i keep telling her i’m laughing with her, not at her but somehow she doesn’t believe me..
            probably cause i’m a lying good for nothing zionist lol

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            oh c’mon, you’re not a lying good for nothing zionist
            you’re just a lying good for nothing.

          3. didn’t i tell you good bye sometime ago?

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            you didn’t kiss goodbye
            doesn’t count if you don’t give me one on each cheek just like Judas did

          5. if only i knew..
            did you know jesus wasn’t the mesiach and never really came back to life?

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Not only do I know that, I’m sure of it!
            But did YOU know that David/Israel was schizophrenic (two names) and all his conversations with Yahweh about the promised land and its borders were nothing but a drunken monologue that earned him the title of king of hallucinations?

          7. and did you know that israel is the second name of jacob and not david?
            lol so arrogant…so proud….and yet knows nothing :))))

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            and whas the name of Abraham grandson who sold his “fist born title” for a plate of lentils?

          9. eisav is the name.
            acording to legends he was a wild man and a rober and is considered the father of amalek

          10. Patience2 Avatar

            Red lentils?

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Orange lentils..?

          12. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Potatoes/potatos
            all characters of a story written thousands of years ago by writers who wouldn’t pass first grade today.
            do you know the names of all the Star Wars characters? Because they have a base of readers much larger than that of the Torah…

          13. don’t turn that at me ,you’re the one that started this “i’m smart: thing. i just point to where you’re wrong 😉

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Western Roman Church said he ressucitated, not Eastern Orthodox Church.

          15. there you go, first diversity right there
            hey hind, sorry about the canedian not ME thing , was feeling up to a fight 🙂

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t know they did CPR back then … hmmm …

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ha..hah..!

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