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Gemayel says Lebanon on the edge of a civil war

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sami gemayelPhalange MP Sami Gemayel said that the adoption of the 1960 electoral law in the upcoming parliamentary elections would be ” a defeat for Christians in Lebanon, “LBC reported o Saturday

During his press conference on Saturday he slammed Free Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun for submission of his candidacy under the 1960 law.

He stressed that holding the upcoming parliamentary elections based on the 1960 law means the extension of the parliament’s mandate.

Gemayel also slammed the state for not being able to protect the city of Tripoli, calling on President Michel Suleiman, Caretaker Prime Minister Najib Mikati and Prime Minister-Designate Tammam Salam “to assume their national responsibilities.”

He concluded by saying that the country is ” on the edge of a civil war.”

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67 responses to “Gemayel says Lebanon on the edge of a civil war”

  1. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    This is a real Lebanese… All others are cheap coins.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      Real Lebanese? Opposed to a fake Muslim one? I love how your “real Lebanese” uses rhetoric that drives us further towards a civil war rather than away from one.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        I think there is probably one left with the last cedar on Mt. Lebanon … you should go to look … but if there are others, THEY know who they are.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Did not mention Moslems nor did I mention any religion… Who is driving us further towards a civil war I really wonder?
        7erraas btosrokh Kataeb labbayka Lubnaan
        Hmmmm… What do you scream? Which tune? Saudis or Iranians? Enlighten us please.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          My apologies. I was making assumptions and that was wrong. Do tell why this man is a real Lebanese? Other than the fact he is a member of the political party you support.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I am not a member of his party… However, give me one sentence this man said that does not make him the best ever… Let me tell you a story about him.
            When the politicians had a rally commemorating the 14th March he enters the hotel where the meeting was held and finds a huge poster of the Saudi King. He objected that this was Lebanon NOT Saudi Arabia and broke rank and left the meeting ALONE when they refused to take it down.
            Listen to his speeches and tell me ONCE he hinted at anything BUT LEBANON FIRST!
            We have ONE Lebanese who makes sense… Forget about his religion and his party for a second and listen to his messages. I do not really care if he were atheist or not, Christian or Moslem all I care about is to listen to his messages. Unlike others who are rolling in Saudi or Iranian dough, this guy is legit.

          2. kamille1 Avatar
            kamille1

            well said, good job..100% agree with you.

          3. $21082311 Avatar
            $21082311

            I also think Sami is miles above others who are present at the Lebanese political scene these days however he still lacks the maturity and depth to understand the complexity of the issues. Your personal bitterness against shia and HA is restricting you from really listening to Nasrallah. What is it from what he said at the last speech about the Lebanese Army not being properly equipped and not being allowed to be properly equipped did you not agree with? Is this not a fact? Or do you selectively listen? Just by Sami saying we need a Lebanese Lebanon with a strong united army, the world will listen and things will happen? We have a screwed up system and we are at the mercy of regional and international wills. People who are governing are the most corrupt and the most religiously biased people who do not give a damn about their populations. Money talks and only money! Unless the 99% silent people rise and make change and until we as individuals make a change in our personal attitudes, nothing will improve. Let’s examine our own biases and be really honest with ourselves first and stop being so superficial especially when you claim to be educated and knowledgeable

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Aside from how you see Hannibal, you only dump on Sami for his ‘immaturity’? But it’s the old heads that are screwed up in and by that ‘complexity’. Sami begins at much simpler point. A Lebanon for all. A military for Lebanon. Laws for Lebanese.
            Start ‘new’ with the simple. It’s the ‘complexity’ of both religiosity and other-country politicizing that makes Lebanon unable to function.
            As for Nastyrallah, considering that he held the ‘power-card’ since he trashed the whole ‘system’ (bad as it is) which was results of an election, he could have simply handed the Army the ‘weapons’ and support, and gone down to being only a political entity – and maybe have gotten 3 or 4 seats this round, instead of the 2 from last time.
            Instead of saying: ‘We have to consider this, and this, and this first’, say: ‘We want that and that and that’ – then make it so. Discard the complex asides from others who don’t want anything other than ‘me, me, me’. Begin with the premise … not the results of something that never seems to work.
            Nasty knows what he wants.
            And yah … I’m terribly secular about it. Go have your religion – freely. But sort out how to run the Lebanese Corporation without it. Sami or any other younger right-thinking politician doesn’t need the ‘complexity’ if he’s willing to put his head on a chopping block to help make a country. He needs support.

          5. $21082311 Avatar
            $21082311

            Why do I bother say anything? This blog is made of people who are the replica of those we see on TVs arguing and counter arguing endlessly with no purpose. The same songs, the same mentality. It is not a forum of constructive discussion, it is who can shout louder and who can can curse dirtier. Maturity has nothing to do with age and simplicity doesn’t make superficial analysis go away. I like Sami, I don’t think his message is bad, it is actually a dream to have an independent all Lebanon Lebanon, but to me he is still a descendant of inherited power and I as a Lebanese am sick and tired of seeing the same figures come back. If we really want change maybe we should start with refuting that sons and grandsons are imposed on us. Where did all the others go? Really qualified people, young and old? We are still spinning in place. I won’t argue the issue of weapons and army with you, I suspect none of us are expert at that. I do know though that the way resistance fighters fight and what they use is not similar to an organized army and I also think it should be a collaborative integrated effort meaning a merger of weapons and talent (in theory anyway). Time for real long term and unbiased strategic planning to strengthen our state internally so we can stand up to the regional pressures. A long shot!

            Meanwhile many people are dying every day and humanity is suffering at all levels. Heaven is weeping and we’re busy figuring out who believes in what religion, and we are such snobs classifying people in sects, who gives a damn?

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ok. Yes. Need New … period. And friends are dying ….

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            When hezballah forced itself upon the lebanese people was the first mistake by us lebanese to allow this to happen your right we do need a change and thats to standup against this tyrant! Then they force there way into syria regardless of what any political figure thinks regardless of the backlash the innocent people and soldiers of lebanon are going to go through, overlooking the fact that he is causing secterian strife WORLWIDE, once the army has been embarressed the whole country is disgraced. the bloke really suffers tunnel vision he says he wants to help the army but he cant?? Ok so they have iranian made weapons and the army cant function with them.. resoloution is simple hand them over lebanon will melt them into steel bars turn them into buildings computers playgrounds bbqs MONEY , so im being unrealistic then how about this they can all work under the command of the army? Ofcourse the hezb wont accept putting their weapons ego aside and function as a ‘normal’ political party for all of lebanon. Their motives are very clear just like they are in qusayr protecting only the shia they want a shia lebanon all this talk about protecting lebanon from becoming nahr l bared part 2 is a hoax and just recently came up with it after their invasion of qusayr as a cover.(to brainwash its followers) So you want to talk about in depth complex issues figure that out how come they fight for shia and then all of a sudden have new ideoligies and goals and makeit a fight for lebanon? At the same time be fighting for lebanon and be putting lebanon into civil sectarian strife??(no logic)the goal you think and dream for lebanon wont come true through hezblshayton because of their arrogance. Its not okay for a nahr l bared but its okay for destruction to happen in beirut. Ive said it before whatever religion you are all our $#!+ smells the same and i am disguasted when a lebanese dies or is injured over something he could of have avoided.

          8. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Hezbollah wants a Shia Lebanon, lol. Just like Assir wants a Salifi Lebanon. However I never hear you criticizing him reasonable. It wouldn’t be because he is from the same sect as you reasonable, it is.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            1.assir doesnt fight in the name of lebanon
            2.i dont agree with his call to jihad in syria.
            3. Any shiekh or preist or monk or animal who disobeys the law of equility and holds a gun while there is an existing army should be dealt with lawfully.
            4.how do you expect the people of any sect to respect the sovereignty of lebanon and the army and drops there weapons of hezblshayton doesnt have to and also fights in the name of iran but uses taqiya and says the name of lebanon?
            5. Ever heard of murphies law? The actions of hezballah and inaction of us humans to stop their actions causes the destruction of lebanon.

          10. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Assir doesn’t fight in the name of Lebanon, come one Reasonable, calling for jihad against SYRIA which resulted with over a thousand young Lebanese men going to fight a war which had nothing to do with them. I would call that TRYING HARD to fight in the name of Lebanon. And you say existing army. lol Are you talking about the very same army who are to chicken shit to intervene in Tripoli and stop violence. Or the army who has allowed theses Salifi terrorist to come and cross the Lebanese and Syrian border at will. Yep, we have a great Army, hey Reasonable. I suppose we can blame Hezbollah for the Army’s inaction can’t we. They are blamed for everything else, why should this be any different.

          11. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            He does not represent lebanon nor did he call for jihad in order to protect lebanon you paint only a picture you want to see. I dont agree with his call to jihad and he is now in syria fighting for syria if he or followers believe in the hearts (without saying it through there mouth) they are fighting for lebanon the reality is they are now in syria. Until any lebanese or aussie or irani or afghan fighting in syria wants to return to ther nationalities for any reason even to fight in there name 😉 they must face consequences for breaking the law of there nation first if im correct its called terrorism? Until then they have no nationality and they are syrias problem. Thats your opinion of the army anti if you dont like the army and think your beleifs can run the country better i suggest you join hezballah with their beliefs and TRY to take over lebanon and syria so you can work your way to the top and impliment your beleifs. Until that happens wake up to yourself your australian if you cant live with the reality of being branded as an australian either then try and find an island name it antifsa and start your own law or you can just join hezblshayton like i stated before.

          12. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Now you painting a picture you want to only see. I never said I don’t like the Army. All I’m saying is they should pull their thumps out of the asses and really protect the sovereignty of the Lebanese people. If they want Hezbollah to put down theirs weapon, then they should prove they have the ability to take over. Be honest Reasonable, have they the ability. ?

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Well what i meant was if you dont appreciate their strategies and the law that governs them and have a better soloution that should be open discussion. Ability to take over so you mean by showing them whose the bigger man and fighting the hezb so everybody in the middle can suffer. Lack of work is hard enough as it is. You cant be wreckless and think everything comes by force or by scaring the other party which is the game hezballah plays. Ill tell you what only winnings 2 chairs in the last elections says enough. While history still exists hezblshayton will always be the party that uses force and doesnt believe in equality in lebanon.

          14. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Where did I mention in this blog anything against HA? I am not against them… I am against their hegemony over Lebanon… Others tried it and failed so why are they trying an experiment that will most likely fail and end up creating extremism and the civil strife? Nasrallah said in his recent speech (I do listen to all of them) that it is the government that he does not trust that is why he did not want HA fighters to be one with the army YET YET YET HA controls the government. Strangely they torpedo this government then they blame it and they are the ones in control. Where is the logic… At the end they are part of my Lebanese makeup and I want to coexist but I do not believe with this formula of ONE SECT having an army above my national army it is going to work… They have taken MY RIGHT to fight the common enemy and it is not right.

          15. $21082311 Avatar
            $21082311

            It is now clear to me you are NOT against HA!! Sure thing. Nobody can take anyone’s right to fight a common fight for one country. The way the country is historically segregated one sect had to be in the front line. I might not agree with HA in particular on all points and I don’t share their same faith but I know I am grateful that we still have a country to call our own thanks to brave LEBANESE men who fought and protect the border every day. I dislike dialogues that refer to sects so I will stop here. I invite all of us to examine our real values and intentions and stop thinking of first and second class citizens. The word coexist doesn’t automatically mean harmonious or equitable living. We need laws that protect all people rights and never mind feelings, we can talk all day to no end. God Bless

          16. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Dani, well said. However most on this blog are against Hezbollah. even Hannibal. (watch him fire back at me now lol). The real question is why.

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            But you know the answer.

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Please 5th, indulge me with you reasons. After all, age before beauty. 🙂

          19. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Anti,
            I have said numerously I am not against Hezbollah… Hell in 2006 we all cheered and the whole of the country opened their arms for the refugees pouring out of the South. The equation started changing when they attacked Beirut and then when they refused to meet the demands of the whole country to ONE defense strategy.
            Let us assume JUST ASSUME for one moment that we had a legitimate election… Then the Lebanese parliament representing the Lebanese decides not to interfere in Syria like the president today is asking Nasrallah to pull out of Syria… Will HA pulls out and abide by the will of Lebanon?
            You know the answer… Therefore they have NOT the interest of Lebanon at heart. IT IS REALLY SIMPLE… NO GREYS in here… WHO DO YOU FIGHT FOR?
            Lebanon? Iran? Syria? You again know the answer.
            Yet if they were to turn their weapons against an Israeli aggression towards Lebanon you know damn well that the Lebanese will stand behind them and in front of them to defend them.
            I fired back 🙂 but not at you 😛

          20. daibers Avatar
            daibers

            they no take yu right mr yu join ha they lik yu mr yu go surya fight yu fight jnaob mr yu call me mr i help yu join ha mr no problem mr

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          In my opinion, foreign intervention is driving Lebanon towards a civil war. The same players that stoked the fire in Syria. It doesn’t take much to stir up a bunch of uneducated, jobless, religious extremists. The Lebanese need to rally behind and support any moderate voices left in Lebanon regardless of political or religious affiliation. However, leaders using fear to appeal to their followers is not a good move at such a fragile time.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah … it would sound like USA … 😉

          2. daibers Avatar
            daibers

            yu lik join ha mr i help yu mr

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hi Dab .. 🙂 … Hope yu R good … still have a job & family ok mr.
            And I too old to carry a sword around these days. One small glass is OK. 😉
            I see yu try same offer on Hannibal mr. – be careful mr. yu make me jealous :-))

    2. AntiFSA Avatar
      AntiFSA

      Careful Hannibal, people might perceive you to be biased for taking a side of a political figure who has the same religious belief as yourself. 🙂 Or is it only if you support Assad or Hezbollah you become biased.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Anti, that was a cheap shot because you do know that I am pan religionist. I do not care a bit if Sami were Alawi as long as he thinks Lebanese. Lebanon and Syria ARE NOT ONE. We are as different as we are similar. That is why I like Sami because HE IS A PATRIOT LEBANESE. Assad is done, Hezbollah is sinking into an abyss like the PLO before them “kebir raason”. They had the support before of all of Lebanon but now they are becoming more and more isolated. What we need is a central Army coming together as ONE with members of all the religions not a state within a state. That is a formula for disaster. We do not want another Iraq nor another Syria nor another Egypt. What we want is a Lebanon unique in its make up… Like Switzerland “mu7aayed”. In one sentence… LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE…

        1. AntiFSA Avatar
          AntiFSA

          Well said Hannibal, I could not agree with you more. Except for the Hezbollah and Assad comment. That I must disagree with.

  2. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    This is a real Lebanese… All others are cheap coins.

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      Real Lebanese? Opposed to a fake Muslim one? I love how your “real Lebanese” uses rhetoric that drives us further towards a civil war rather than away from one.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        I think there is probably one left with the last cedar on Mt. Lebanon … you should go to look … but if there are others, THEY know who they are.

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Did not mention Moslems nor did I mention any religion… Who is driving us further towards a civil war I really wonder?
        7erraas btosrokh Kataeb labbayka Lubnaan
        Hmmmm… What do you scream? Which tune? Saudis or Iranians? Enlighten us please.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          My apologies. I was making assumptions and that was wrong. Do tell why this man is a real Lebanese? Other than the fact he is a member of the political party you support.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I am not a member of his party… However, give me one sentence this man said that does not make him the best ever… Let me tell you a story about him.
            When the politicians had a rally commemorating the 14th March he enters the hotel where the meeting was held and finds a huge poster of the Saudi King. He objected that this was Lebanon NOT Saudi Arabia and broke rank and left the meeting ALONE when they refused to take it down.
            Listen to his speeches and tell me ONCE he hinted at anything BUT LEBANON FIRST!
            We have ONE Lebanese who makes sense… Forget about his religion and his party for a second and listen to his messages. I do not really care if he were atheist or not, Christian or Moslem all I care about is to listen to his messages. Unlike others who are rolling in Saudi or Iranian dough, this guy is legit.

          2. kamille1 Avatar
            kamille1

            well said, good job..100% agree with you.

          3. Dani38 Avatar
            Dani38

            I also think Sami is miles above others who are present at the Lebanese political scene these days however he still lacks the maturity and depth to understand the complexity of the issues. Your personal bitterness against shia and HA is restricting you from really listening to Nasrallah. What is it from what he said at the last speech about the Lebanese Army not being properly equipped and not being allowed to be properly equipped did you not agree with? Is this not a fact? Or do you selectively listen? Just by Sami saying we need a Lebanese Lebanon with a strong united army, the world will listen and things will happen? We have a screwed up system and we are at the mercy of regional and international wills. People who are governing are the most corrupt and the most religiously biased people who do not give a damn about their populations. Money talks and only money! Unless the 99% silent people rise and make change and until we as individuals make a change in our personal attitudes, nothing will improve. Let’s examine our own biases and be really honest with ourselves first and stop being so superficial especially when you claim to be educated and knowledgeable

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Aside from how you see Hannibal, you only dump on Sami for his ‘maturity’? But it’s the old heads that are screwed up in and by that ‘complexity’. Sami begins at much simpler point. A Lebanon for all. A military for Lebanon. Laws for Lebanese.
            Start ‘new’ with the simple. It’s the ‘complexity’ of both religiosity and other-country politicizing that makes Lebanon unable to function.
            As for Nastyrallah, considering that he held the ‘power-card’ since he trashed the whole ‘system’ (bad as it is) which was results of an election, he could have simply handed the Army the ‘weapons’ and support, and gone down to being only a political entity – and maybe have gotten 3 or 4 seats this round, instead of the 2.
            Instead of saying: ‘We have to consider this, and this, and this first’, say: ‘We want that and that and that’ – then make it so. Discard the complex asides from others who don’t want anything other than ‘me, me, me’. Begin with the premise … not the results of something that never seems to work. Nasty knows what he wants.
            And yah … I’m terribly secular about it. Go have your religion – freely. But sort out how to run the Lebanese Corporation without it. Sami or any other younger right-thinking politician doesn’t need the ‘complexity’ if he’s willing to put his head on a chopping block to help make a country. He needs support.

          5. Dani38 Avatar
            Dani38

            Why do I bother say anything? This blog is made of people who are the replica of those we see on TVs arguing and counter arguing endlessly with no purpose. The same songs, the same mentality. It is not a forum of constructive discussion, it is who can shout louder and who can can curse dirtier. Maturity has nothing to do with age and simplicity doesn’t make superficial analysis go away. I like Sami, I don’t think his message is bad, it is actually a dream to have an independent all Lebanon Lebanon, but to me he is still a descendant of inherited power and I as a Lebanese am sick and tired of seeing the same figures come back. If we really want change maybe we should start with refuting that sons and grandsons are imposed on us. Where did all the others go? Really qualified people, young and old? We are still spinning in place. I won’t argue the issue of weapons and army with you, I suspect none of us are expert at that. I do know though that the way resistance fighters fight and what they use is not similar to an organized army and I also think it should be a collaborative integrated effort meaning a merger of weapons and talent (in theory anyway). Time for real long term and unbiased strategic planning to strengthen our state internally so we can stand up to the regional pressures. A long shot!

            Meanwhile many people are dying every day and humanity is suffering at all levels. Heaven is weeping and we’re busy figuring out who believes in what religion, and we are such snobs classifying people in sects, who gives a damn?

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ok. Yes. Need New … period. And friends are dying ….

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            When hezballah forced itself upon the lebanese people was the first mistake by us lebanese to allow this to happen your right we do need a change and thats to standup against this tyrant! Then they force there way into syria regardless of what any political figure thinks regardless of the backlash the innocent people and soldiers of lebanon are going to go through, overlooking the fact that he is causing secterian strife WORLWIDE, once the army has been embarressed the whole country is disgraced. the bloke really suffers tunnel vision he says he wants to help the army but he cant?? Ok so they have iranian made weapons and the army cant function with them.. resoloution is simple hand them over lebanon will melt them into steel bars turn them into buildings computers playgrounds bbqs MONEY , so im being unrealistic then how about this they can all work under the command of the army? Ofcourse the hezb wont accept putting their weapons ego aside and function as a ‘normal’ political party for all of lebanon. Their motives are very clear just like they are in qusayr protecting only the shia they want a shia government all this talk about protecting lebanon from becoming nahr l bared part 2 is a hoax and just recently came up with it after their invasion of qusayr with as a cover. So you want to talk about in depth complex issues figure that out how come they fight for shia and then all of a sudden have new ideoligies and goals and makeit a fight for lebanon? At the same time be fighting for lebanon and be putting lebanon into civil sectarian strife, the goal you think and dream for lebanon wont come true through hezblshayton because of their arrogance. Its not okay for a nahr l bared but its okay for destruction to happen in beirut. Ive said it before whatever religion you are all our $#!+ smells the same and i am disguasted when a lebanese dies or is injured over something he could of have avoided.

          8. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Hezbollah wants a Shia Lebanon, lol. Just like Assir wants a Salifi Lebanon. However I never hear you criticizing him reasonable. It wouldn’t be because he is from the same sect as you reasonable, it is.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            1.assir doesnt fight in the name of lebanon
            2.i dont agree with his call to jihad in syria.
            3. Any shiekh or preist or monk or animal who disobeys the law of equility and holds a gun while there is an existing army should be dealt with lawfully.
            4.how do you expect the people of any sect to respect the sovereignty of lebanon and the army and drops there weapons of hezblshayton doesnt have to and also fights in the name of iran but uses taqiya and says the name of lebanon?
            5. Ever heard of murphies law? The actions of hezballah and inaction of us humans to stop their actions causes the destruction of lebanon.

          10. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Assir doesn’t fight in the name of Lebanon, come one Reasonable, calling for jihad against SYRIA which resulted with over a thousand young Lebanese men going to fight a war which had nothing to do with them. I would call that TRYING HARD to fight in the name of Lebanon. And you say existing army. lol Are you talking about the very same army who are to chicken shit to intervene in Tripoli and stop violence. Or the army who has allowed theses Salifi terrorist to come and cross the Lebanese and Syrian border at will. Yep, we have a great Army, hey Reasonable. I suppose we can blame Hezbollah for the Army’s inaction can’t we. They are blamed for everything else, why should this be any different.

          11. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            He does not represent lebanon nor did he call for jihad in order to protect lebanon you paint only a picture you want to see. I dont agree with his call to jihad and he is now in syria fighting for syria if he or followers believe in the hearts (without saying it through there mouth) they are fighting for lebanon the reality is they are now in syria. Until any lebanese or aussie or irani or afghan fighting in syria wants to return to ther nationalities for any reason even to fight in there name 😉 they must face consequences for breaking the law of there nation first if im correct its called terrorism? Until then they have no nationality and they are syrias problem. Thats your opinion of the army anti if you dont like the army and think your beleifs can run the country better i suggest you join hezballah with their beliefs and TRY to take over lebanon and syria so you can work your way to the top and impliment your beleifs. Until that happens wake up to yourself your australian if you cant live with the reality of being branded as an australian either then try and find an island name it antifsa and start your own law or you can just join hezblshayton like i stated before.

          12. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Now you painting a picture you want to only see. I never said I don’t like the Army. All I’m saying is they should pull their thumps out of the asses and really protect the sovereignty of the Lebanese people. If they want Hezbollah to put down theirs weapon, then they should prove they have the ability to take over. Be honest Reasonable, have they the ability. ?

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Well what i meant was if you dont appreciate their strategies and the law that governs them and have a better soloution that should be open discussion. Ability to take over so you mean by showing them whose the bigger man and fighting the hezb so everybody in the middle can suffer. Lack of work is hard enough as it is. You cant be wreckless and think everything comes by force or by scaring the other party which is the game hezballah plays. Ill tell you what only winnings 2 chairs in the last elections says enough. While history still exists hezblshayton will always be the party that uses force and doesnt believe in equality in lebanon.

          14. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Where did I mention in this blog anything against HA? I am not against them… I am against their hegemony over Lebanon… Others tried it and failed so why are they trying an experiment that will most likely fail and end up creating extremism and the civil strife? Nasrallah said in his recent speech (I do listen to all of them) that it is the government that he does not trust that is why he did not want HA fighters to be one with the army YET YET YET HA controls the government. Strangely they torpedo this government then they blame it and they are the ones in control. Where is the logic… At the end they are part of my Lebanese makeup and I want to coexist but I do not believe with this formula of ONE SECT having an army above my national army it is going to work… They have taken MY RIGHT to fight the common enemy and it is not right.

          15. Dani38 Avatar
            Dani38

            It is now clear to me you are NOT against HA!! Sure thing. Nobody can take anyone’s right to fight a common fight for one country. The way the country is historically segregated one sect had to be in the front line. I might not agree with HA in particular on all points and I don’t share their same faith but I know I am grateful that we still have a country to call our own thanks to brave LEBANESE men who fought and protect the border every day. I dislike dialogues that refer to sects so I will stop here. I invite all of us to examine our real values and intentions and stop thinking of first and second class citizens. The word coexist doesn’t automatically mean harmonious or equitable living. We need laws that protect all people rights and never mind feelings, we can talk all day to no end. God Bless

          16. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Dani, well said. However most on this blog are against Hezbollah. even Hannibal. (watch him fire back at me now lol). The real question is why.

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            But you know the answer.

          18. AntiFSA Avatar
            AntiFSA

            Please 5th, indulge me with you reasons. After all, age before beauty. 🙂

          19. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Anti,
            I have said numerously I am not against Hezbollah… Hell in 2006 we all cheered and the whole of the country opened their arms for the refugees pouring out of the South. The equation started changing when they attacked Beirut and then when they refused to meet the demands of the whole country to ONE defense strategy.
            Let us assume JUST ASSUME for one moment that we had a legitimate election… Then the Lebanese parliament representing the Lebanese decides not to interfere in Syria like the president today is asking Nasrallah to pull out of Syria… Will HA pulls out and abide by the will of Lebanon?
            You know the answer… Therefore they have NOT the interest of Lebanon at heart. IT IS REALLY SIMPLE… NO GREYS in here… WHO DO YOU FIGHT FOR?
            Lebanon? Iran? Syria? You again know the answer.
            Yet if they were to turn their weapons against an Israeli aggression towards Lebanon you know damn well that the Lebanese will stand behind them and in front of them to defend them.
            I fired back 🙂 but not at you 😛

          20. daibers Avatar
            daibers

            they no take yu right mr yu join ha they lik yu mr yu go surya fight yu fight jnaob mr yu call me mr i help yu join ha mr no problem mr

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          In my opinion, foreign intervention is driving Lebanon towards a civil war. The same players that stoked the fire in Syria. It doesn’t take much to stir up a bunch of uneducated, jobless, religious extremists. The Lebanese need to rally behind and support any moderate voices left in Lebanon regardless of political or religious affiliation. However, leaders using fear to appeal to their followers is not a good move at such a fragile time.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah … it would sound like USA … 😉

          2. daibers Avatar
            daibers

            yu lik join ha mr i help yu mr

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Hi Dab .. 🙂 … Hope yu R good … still have a job & family ok mr.
            And I too old to carry a sword around these days. One small glass is OK. 😉
            I see yu try same offer on Hannibal mr. – be careful mr. yu make me jealous :-))

        3. AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing Avatar
          AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing

          we hariri and geagea boys we chant the nusra hymen

    2. AntiFSA Avatar
      AntiFSA

      Careful Hannibal, people might perceive you to be biased for taking a side of a political figure who has the same religious belief as yourself. 🙂 Or is it only if you support Assad or Hezbollah you become biased.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Anti, that was a cheap shot because you do know that I am pan religionist. I do not care a bit if Sami were Alawi as long as he thinks Lebanese. Lebanon and Syria ARE NOT ONE. We are as different as we are similar. That is why I like Sami because HE IS A PATRIOT LEBANESE. Assad is done, Hezbollah is sinking into an abyss like the PLO before them “kebir raason”. They had the support before of all of Lebanon but now they are becoming more and more isolated. What we need is a central Army coming together as ONE with members of all the religions not a state within a state. That is a formula for disaster. We do not want another Iraq nor another Syria nor another Egypt. What we want is a Lebanon unique in its make up… Like Switzerland “mu7aayed”. In one sentence… LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE…

        1. AntiFSA Avatar
          AntiFSA

          Well said Hannibal, I could not agree with you more.

      2. AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing Avatar
        AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing

        gemayyel and hannibahl have no religion; they are part of takfir

    3. AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing Avatar
      AbdallahBenAbdelAzizLebnanKing

      not yet; he still needs to hide in america or in france to satisfy your criteria

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