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Nasrallah denies the 5 Syrians planned to attack the Shiites

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Hezbollah Secretary General Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah on Saturday admitted  that five Syrians were arrested in Nabatiyeh with “arms” in their possession, but denied reports claiming that the group was planning  to use the explosives to attack the Shiite mourners marking Ashoura on  Sunday .

In a speech marking the ninth day of  Ashoura Nasrallah said:

“Five Syrians have been detained possessing arms but we already know that many Syrians arrive in Lebanon to buy weapons.” A possible reference to the Syrian rebels  who are fighting the Syrian regime of president Bashar al Assad,  a strong backer of the Hezbollah militant group.

He added the “media reports claiming  that the five Syrians who were detained as they were planning to detonate the explosives in Nabatiyeh are false.”

Nasrallah went on to say that nothing would stop the Lebanese Shiites from coming out Sunday to commemorate the Ashoura , despite security threats.

“Neither rainy weather nor security threats will stop us from commemorating Ashoura  and  stand between us and Imam Hussein,”  Nasrallah said

Lebanese soldiers raided an apartment in the city of in Nabatiyeh   in south  Lebanon on Saturday and arrested five Syrian nationals for possession of explosives, the army said, the latest incident fanning fears that Syria’s civil war is spilling across the border.

The army  identified the  five men as Khodr Mohammed al-Fnoush, Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Fattah, Ahmed Mohammed al-Fnoush, Hussein Farhan al-Fattah and Wael Hussein al-Hassan.

Ashoura ( meaning ten in Arabic)  is a ten day mourning period observed by Shiite Muslims to commemorate the death of Imam Hussein ibn Ali, ( grandson of the Prophet Mohammad), who died at the Battle of Karbala in 680 AD.

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66 responses to “Nasrallah denies the 5 Syrians planned to attack the Shiites”

  1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    Where is Moe2000000002012 is going to dispute his master that the Syrians were salfist and God knows what were going to attack Shiites at Ashura..

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  2. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    Where is Moe2000000002012 is going to dispute his master that the Syrians were salfist and God knows what were going to attack Shiites at Ashura..

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  3. MeYosemite Avatar
    MeYosemite

    How does he know? Was he selling the weapons?

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    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Probably. The ‘cops’ interrupted the deliveries.

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  4. MeYosemite Avatar
    MeYosemite

    How does he know? Was he selling the weapons?

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    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Probably. The cops interrupted the deliveries.

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  5. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Sheik Nadime Gemayel at his best . Amazing video of Nadime Gemayel , the Fakeih,speaking at Ashura commemoration about the martyrdom of Imam Hussein at karbala.
    No comment,the video speaks for itself.
    Notice how the video didn’t dare show how many people attended the event which was sponsored by Ahmad Al Assaad.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjPUT2jz_Q

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    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      I must admit that he is not eloquent but his message is right on, a message of unity, or do you prefer the eloquence of Nasrallah who at every juncture accuses the Christians of inciting conflict between Shiites and Sunnis? You see how shallow you are examining the presenter but not the message itself. At every juncture you prove that you are a Hezbollah operative and yet you masquerade as a Lebanese hardcore. Answer me this… How are you going to have a one nation (NOT your Forte obviously) when you criticize at every juncture the other camp ignoring its message? You see it is obvious to us real Lebanese that people like you want a Shiite government within the Lebanese state much like the PLO state was and no more. The message of Islam and of Shiism is at odds with the message of Christianity and YET Nadim is trying his best to find a commonality yet you condescendingly criticize. You see for me I do not give a hoot about his message I would have said that we are different yet we share this land and I would go the secular way. Why you may ask? Because the smart intelligent person you call Imam Ali who is ahlu el bayt said: “O peoples! Women are deficient in intelligence. As regards the deficiency in their faith, it is their abstention from prayers and fasting during their menstrual period. As regards deficiency in their intelligence, it is because the witnessing of two women is equal to that of one man. As for the deficiency of their shares, it is that their share in inheritance is half of men’s. So beware of the evils of women. Be on your guard even from those of them who are reportedly good. Do not obey them even in good things so that they may not attract you to evils.
      Read the above once more and ponder on it… Your own idol what he said… Then open a Christian bible… ignore everything in it and read the message of Jesus and then see the difference.
      Our commonality is the Lebanese culture NEVER in eons the message of Nadim about commonalities between Shiism and Christianity… That is why the only salvation is secularism or federalism…

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Without turning this into a personal issue,and start uncalled- for- personal attacks, you concluded that I’m an “HA operative”, and I respect your right to make your conclusions and opinions,but I don’t have to respect either. As you know, I’ve never concealed my support for the idea of resistance, and never will. I supported the resistance before the creation of HA, and I would support you and Nadim if you ever become defenders of Lebanon against Israeli aggression.. Years ago, I was accused of being, among other things, a leftist and a communist, and an operative for both because the resistance was led by both groups, When I was neither, and now I’m accused of being a” HA operative”,when I’m not one, though I respect all their sarafices in defending lebanon.. I don’t need to prove to you anything,and I won’t.
        So, there is no surprise in the way people make accusations,It’s a Typical Lebanese tradition, lol
        As to whether I’m a hard core Lebanese are not;you are not qualified, nor do you have any right to pass certificate of authenticity on whether one is a true Lebanese or not. You gave me the option of being a HA operative/supporter or a hard core Lebanese, which(could be both) means that more than half of Lebanese people are not true Lebanese in you views. Well, that equation speaks for itself, and no need to answer it either because these people who, you are denying them their patriotism and identity will not beg you for anything, and they need not to. They know they are Lebanese, and many of them paid for it dearly, at the hands of Nadim’s father and his likes. I don’t pick on dead people, so I won’t get into details since you know them. The least you can do is be honest and accurate when criticizing others.Again, I need not prove to you anything.HA and his supporters are Lebanese as much as most ,and don’t care if you approve or not.
        The video, which seems to have triggered some anger, speaks for itself. People are to make their own conclusions on some one like Nadim addressing such important event.I didn’t criticize the messenger, nor the message. If you are a Bashir hard core supporter, come out and say it. You don’t need to conceal your political views, and sugar coated with secularism and agnosticism. There is no need to feel embarrassed if you supported Bashir. As we all know, every historic event in Lebanon have different interpretation,and every leader is viewed differently, and I will respect your interpretation of Bashir history.
        But since you want my opinion on this video, I will give it you, and then you can attack as much as you want. A Nadim Gemayel Speaking at an Ashura commemoration is exactly like inviting Osama Bin Laden’s son to speak at a Sept 11 commemoration. So now you have it. Although we should put it behind us, Nabaa and Birj Hamooud,and many other places,had witnessed massacres and ethnic cleaning at the hands of those who are lecturing us on the meaning of Ashura, and the teachings of Jesus. So, it is not the message that offended me, but those who are giving it to us, because they are not qualified .
        I won’t get into this tit for tat discussion on religion with you. I always refused to discuss religion on this blog, and you won’t drag me into it today. Imam Ali does not need me to defend him or his message, and I won’t answer you by looking into a bible for some negative statement about women or anything else. You claim of being an agnostic is a false claim,to say the least.Last time you and I had a discussion, you came back swinging ,pointing your fingers,and then asking for divorce, and I’m still waiting for the court fillings.lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Nadim was not born when Nabaa was cleansed from the PLO filth and their supporters… I was there and they had snipers everywhere shooting at anything that moved and firing with anti-aircrafts made for firing at airplanes at civilian buildings… yet daily we had a dose of heavy weaponry thrown at our civilians… Therefore we cleaned it from the foreigners… We have nothing to regret… The reason why the Lebanese have their country is because we defended with our blood the country from an enemy that at the time some of our so called compatriots called allies… Now that is treason my friend: Siding with the Palestinians against your own kind… or are we?

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      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        I was barely walking when your government allowed(no one asked us) the PLO to come in and operate in Lebanon and I was a child when The Nabaa ethnic cleaning (from the foreigners???who were mostly lebanese)took place. Nabaa had no PLO in it. The PLO was in Telazaatar,which was also ethnically cleansed ,and all Palestinians civilians were murdered,by our fellow Lebanese.
        Exactly my point, siding with the enemy ,and helping invaders,against your own people does not qualify for patriotism.It is treason,indeed.
        Please,Spare me your poetry about nationalsim and treason.Send divorce papers,lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Exactly my point and thank you for reemphasizing that someone who wasn’t born then does not fathom the seriousness of being a traitor standing with foreign palestinians against your own people… Did you know that the Christian Maronites were the first to suggest the Cedar is the emblem of Lebanon and that Hezbollah wants to change it to Cannabis?
          One more thing tell el zaatar is Lebanese territory and on top of it it is Maronite Church property and we want the waqef back… It belongs to us and we want it back… Simple…
          We may have let them in as guests and now we want them out back to filthy Palestine and if you like Palestine so much with your “qaadimoun” people we will facilitate buses for you to go live there with the Jews as you both deserve each others. Actually you will fit well together there  as you both deny Jesus a God from God light from light and you both do not eat pork… Let us enjoy our Prosciutto now will you? 

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      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Tal azaatar may have been a property of the church, but the Palestinian refugees were not invaders. They were placed there by the Lebanese authority with the approval of the church. If the church wanted its property back, it would have been the responsibility of the authority to relocate these camps, not the responsibility of the phalange party to do so, and not by killing civilian people. For you to appoint yourself a spokesman of the Maronite church, and make a claim that the church wanted its property back, you indirectly and unfairly implicating the church in the killings of thousands of civilians. Was Birj Hamoud and Nabaa owned by the church too? Were these area occupied by foreigners?Would you have justified killing Christians as a revenge for the phalanges treason alliance with the Israelis? I don’t think so,and I would not either.You believe in revenge,and I don’t

        Sympathizing with the Palestinian cause does not mean wanting to be a Palestinian. These people were wronged over and over. First by the Israelis, second by the so called international community, third by their own leadership, and fourth, by the Countries who hosted them and treated them like a tenth class animals. Your racist attitude makes you worse than the Israelis and the Nazis, and it is not worth replying to. All of your previous claims about equality and brotherhood in humanity have been exposed as hypocrisy. All of your pretention of being open minded and secular minded person is clearly unmasked, and your true feelings and thinking are becoming clear now. I’m glad you took off that humanistic and freedom loving mask. The buses you have facilitated might be of good use for the Palestinians to return to their land.As much I despised the PLO, i never consider the Palestinians as enemies,and I would never waiver my support to their just cause.Unlike you, I separate my emotions from my principles.
        Enjoy your Prosciutto, and I have no problem with your diet, but with your taste.
        Still waiting for divorce filling,lol

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        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Prophet Brother, Don’t waste your time, No matter what you Wright, or how much evidence you give, If you don’t criticize HA it means you are against most bloggers on this site. Furthermore Hannibal claims ( And I quote) The reason why the Lebanese have their country is because we defended with our blood. Although this might be true to a degree,What he has failed to mention is the reason the Christians have their safety in Lebanon today is because of Hezbollah. Now watch the criticizing start rolling in.  

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        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Hypocrite what started first? Damour or tell el zaatar? I do not need a terrorist Hizzie sleeper cell to give me lessons in patriotism… Ask your fellow shia what they did to the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayyamaat…
          Nabaa and Birj Hammoud had SSNPs and Communists and Palestinian allies: They had to be defeated… I was there… They were shooting at us… what would you like us to do kneel and pray? Do you know that NOT one Shia village was touched in the heart of Jbeil and Keserwan? Get your facts right before you claim you are a peace loving neutral person.
          Look at your t’s dude? What all of sudden you transformed into some eloquent peace loving person? We all know who you are and everyone smells on you Hezboayran from a distance and it stinks…Crocodile tears misplaced as usual… Enjoy this youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5OMOWZ2jcQHamajj!!!

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      4. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        why are you so angry? i dont see how one can claim to be better than another or more righteous than another by defaming or mocking to prove their betterness? each to their own..religion is not about changing people or forcing them to change…its about simply being….somewhere along the line religion has been hijacked for political reasons whther christian , muslim,jew or whatever….all the prophets from jesus to moses to hussein or mohamad were revered, respected and adored because of their humbleness,humility and piaty….no money,no fame,no looking for glory…just a genuiness that has been lost….look at humanity now its all about power,how we look,keeping up with the jones’s,what we are wearing,driving,whose boobs are better,whose bum is hotter…..we still can not realise that its not the religion(s)….if anything the lebanese civil war is evidence of this….how many christians killed christians? how many muslims killed muslims? who is better than who? in gods eyes does he not see us as equals? if the answer is yes then who are we to judge others? just live…just look at people as people….then and only then can you have a civil society…..how can you say you want a secular society when you are bagging out another religion…..as a christian are we not taught to love thy neighbour? or is love thy neighbour if he is christian or muslim or jew or worships donkeys? life is simple but we complicate it…..live…just live….we complain about our so called leaders but we do nothing….

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      5. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        You are such an angry sectarian man. You keep opening your mouth and closing your eye.You need some healing.
        I don’t need to prove to you anything, bro. Think what you like, say what you want, and keep counting t’s. I just feel sorry for you, and wish you the best,and we’ll stay brothers in our humanity.
        Still waiting for divorce papers, lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          I get angry for the injustice of people like you judging others without really knowing the truth.  The only sectarians are people like you and Nasrallah when you prefer to sleep with the Iranians when your next door brother wants to build a nation… Do not feel sorry for me I am really happy in my skin… Keep blowing people off without regret like the recent Ashrafieh bombing which killed and maimed civilians and call the perpetrators resistance… You have no shame… But the day of reckoning is coming soon.
          One more thing… The party I belong to has all types of religions in it… My trainer was a durzi and the body guards of my leader were shiites… We took tell el zaatar (it was not the phalange nor Bashir la ma3loumeetak)… Check out the facts and if you find out that one kataeb (ouweet were not in the picture at the time) was in tell el zaatar I will eat my tongue.
          You really should know your countrie’s history better before you talk this nonsense.
          From wikipedia:”Tel al-Zaatar was placed under siege by a plan elaborated by General Michel Aoun who was the army commander of the area at that time.” That was done by Syrian backing who blockaded West Beirut and bombarded the camps… yes your ally Aoun did them in… and your ally Aoun is the person who had his deputies spying for Israel… But as usual we are the traitors because we want to build a watan…

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      6. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Again. angry people don’t always listen to themselves  when they talk. You criticizing me for being judgmental  yet you judge me without knowing anything about me. On the day of reckoning,  make sure you ,being the keeper of the gate,shut the door of heaven if you see me coming.But I promise you that If I was at the gate, I would open the gate wide open for you,lol
        I think it is time to move on,brother.

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      7. Persistent Avatar
        Persistent

        I am for coexistence of all mankind, but I felt compelled to make a few points. No religion is flawless, you keep exonerating christianity and incriminating islam, some call it freedom of speech and that is fine by me. You keep saying move beyond the past albeit you keep going back to it. There is enough blame to go around. During the civil war, the lebanese public from every corner of the country have suffered and continue to suffer and there is noone who can realistically measure the extent of suffering. There is no denial that some moslems have done awful things and thanks to the the media, we are constantly reminded of it and there is no need to go into details but let me remind you, christianity have done its share of awful stuff and are not all that innocent, crusaders, serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo, the Russians in Chechynia, the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, although one can argue, the latter was done for political reasons and not religious purposes. Christians kill christians and moslems kill moslems.
        One’s who live in glass homes should not cast stones at others, I am not qualified and neither are you or anyone else on this blog to judge someone’s religion by extracting out of context a say or a verse to score a point, before you criticize and lecture others about their faith, one should look at his own, women in the west are being exploited for profit everyday (and please do not tell me the western world hardly practices christianity), priests, bishops, cardinals, etc..who are supposed to be guiding people to a better life are destroying young boys life for good by abusing them and one needs to look at the root cause of it, christmas has lost its true meaning and has transformed into a materialistic arena and has become about who sells the most merchandise and how much profit one can make, the number of christians attending churches has fallen exponentially.
        So please save us the religious lecture. Let’s stick to building a bridge that will take all mankind to the destiny of love, peace, prosperity, happiness and well being. To keep repeating the old cliche of who is done more wrong is not the way to move forward, we need to forgive and stop adding insult to injury.

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Great I am all for it as I am areligious… I criticize all and everyone… BUT I cannot forgive bigots and neither traitors denying the sacrifices of the Lebanese resistance… 

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    2. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      I wanted to reply and hit “Like” by mistake. This Fakeih, as you say, with his host Ahmad Al-Asaad, knows the interest of Lebanon and the Shiaa more than Nasrallah himself. Although I would not compare Christ with Hussein, a human who was in war with others over political power. Fine his speech is not very eloquent but it is a speech of unity, a speech of real Achouraa meaning, which is being with the victim and defending the right and just and not be a tyrant and impose yourself on others by force, which HA is exercising in Lebanon. This Fakeih’s father, sister, and cousin died for Lebanon and it’s freedom, independence and dignity. Anyways, thank you for the video, I have’t seen it before, and my sympathies for Aashoura for you and all the shiaa on this site. 

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Constantine, Thank you. I respect all religions and their traditions even though I don’t follow much.
        I have no problem with the message, but with the messengers (Al Assaad and the Gemayles). I just won’t accept a message from someone who is not genuine. Lebanese know how to lie about everything.
        Ahamd Al Assaad represents the worst of the worst in south Lebanon. His father and his grandfather, and their forefathers were the blood suckers of the southerners for hundreds of years. One thing I give his father credit for is that He didn’t have blood on his hand, but He sucked enough blood.
        We don’t need feudal families running our lives anymore, the Assaad’s, the Gemayels, The Khalil’s (of tyre), the Chamoun’s Jumblat’s, and all the others are part of the problem, and they can never be the solution. Until when We keep worshiping these feudal families?. Just because someone inherits a feudal last name, it does not entitle them to leadership. Yes his father and sisters died, but more than 200 thousand Lebanese died as well. The difference is that most of these people don’t have a feudal last name like the Assasd or Jumblat or Gemayle. His father was in politics and was leading wars, and He died defending his political agenda, and political dreams (I won’t pick on a dead man and his dreams ) while His sister was an innocent girl who died as a result of the criminal mentality that killed thousands of other young girls and boys in Lebanon. I personally know many-some were very close to me- and I’m Sure You do too.Lose of human life , whether it is the life of a famous person or not so famous, should be treated equally. Everyone’s life is precious. Every person killed has a father,mother and family. My contempt to all Feudal families and champions of the civil war, with no exception, is no secret on this blog.

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        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I agree with you Prophetttt that we should get rid of all these feudal families, no question. And it is true that so many people lost their lives, and their lives are not less worthy than a famous person’s life. I don’t know much of the Assaad’s family activities in the South, but Ahmad el-Assaad himself when I listen to his speeches I completely agree with him.
          As for your respect to all religions, I appreciate your open mind and feel that one day you will have to revert to God and you will choose the right one (not the one in the Kuran) because deep inside you you know the truth, but you’re not ready to admit it. I don’t know why I am telling you all this, as I don’t know you at all but read your postings from time to time, but this is what I feel with you. With time I learnt to trust my intuitions and feelings, please forgive my audacity. Peace to you my friend 🙂 

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      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Sympathies for what? It was just a politician like all Arabs who inherited the post from his daddy and was killed for it… He was not a God from God… You see Jesus resurrected but obviously no other has…

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        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Relax Hannibal, you know my views about Jesus Christ and I never said Husein was God. My posting was pretty clear. Just cool it my friend…

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      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Constantine, Thank you.Although I’m proud of my faith , I have made my choice as a teenager that, faith isn’t about practicing one religion only, It’s about what you learn from religion to make you a better human. God created us all equal, yet different from each other. God created so many kinds of people, and He would not expect them all to pray one way. He created us with the capabilities to think and feel different; it is then, natural for him to expect us to follow different paths to reach him. God does not need people to pray for him one way or another.
        It is unfortunate that we grew up in a country where everyone feels the need to wear his faith and sect on the outside instead of inside.

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    3. Persistent Avatar
      Persistent

      I totally agree with you that the clip you posted speaks for itself, it was evident there couldn’t have been more than 50 people and I am being generous. It is sad if the christian community is represented and relying on a 25 yr and a 30 yr old Gemayel cousions to lead them through these difficult times.

      I remember my grandfather telling me this when I was a young boy, that a group of elderly from the neighboring villages went to Kamel beiks father (is it Ahmad)  and asked if he could build them a school, his answer to them was why do you need a school …I am educating Kamel for you…. 

      Another sad thing is we live in an open society where people in general do not care about religion or where you are from, they believe and abide by the merrits of the system, I wish people will allow themselves to open their eyes and minds a little more and look at someone as a human and not as a shiite, sunni, maronite, durz, etc… , I know it is a long stretch…
      Stay coooool mannnnnn…

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Persistent,  If you paid attention  to how many people were seated (usually reserved for honor guests,and clergy men)next to Al Assad,the host of this event;NONE. Isn’t that sad enough?How telling is that? Have you noticed the hand clapping ? This is totally unheard of in an ashura Majless.
        Another story  that you may have heard of;The village of Hanin,where Kamel Beik used to spend time on weekends,is totally owned by him. Few thousand people,the residents of this village, do not own land,not even the land they live on,all work the land of the Beik,and his generosity guarantees they have enough food to survive. The Mukhtar of the village represented the Beik,and  ran the village.This is just one example of this feudal family’s blood sucking history. You and I know that may other villages are owned by the family. I’m cool,and won’t allow hatred, ignorance, and racism to poison my principles.

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        1. Persistent Avatar
          Persistent

          Yes,  noone was sitting next to him and all alone, I know other families first hand such as “Aussairan” whom they robbed the people from all their land and belongings for food during the great depression or “Ayam Al Majaa” and they are called “Iqta3ying”. Now they have lost most of it back to the people including their prestige. As they say what goes around comes around, out with the old and in with the new….

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      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Sorry for double postings.

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    4. Moe28 Avatar
      Moe28

        Ahmad Assir the Wahhabi Gagea ally march 14th wants to bring the Free
      Syria Terrorist army  to Lebanon!! He declared it two days ago!!!! He
      wants to impose Wahhabi Sharia law and fight the Lebanese army the the Hizib

      http://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=QYjF1QdEHhE&feature=plcp

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Moe,
         I have always wondered whether some one’s name effects their personality or not.
         At least in this man’s case ,I think, it does. His first name Ahmad,which is a derivative of the name  Mohammad;the name of the Prophet. With a religious name,such as Ahmad, Mohammad, Jesus,Moses…… chances are that one will feel closer to the religion associated to that name.The problem is that  He thinks He represent the true Muslim faith.But again all fanatics have monopoly on truth and God.As for his last name,Assir which means prisoner; This guy became a prisoner of his own  twisted beliefs.But What I can’t explain is his twisted way of thinking,and those extreme views that defy true Muslim principles.
        I don’t ask anyone to take this theory to the bank…Just a thought,lol

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        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          And a good thought I might say Prophet.

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  6. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Nadime Gemayel at his best . Amazing video of Nadime Gemayel speaking at Ashura commemoration .
    No comment,the video speaks for itself.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjPUT2jz_Q

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    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      I must admit that he is not eloquent but his message is right on, a message of unity, or do you prefer the eloquence of Nasrallah who at every juncture accuses the Christians of inciting conflict between Shiites and Sunnis? You see how shallow you are examining the presenter but not the message itself. At every juncture you prove that you are a Hezbollah operative and yet you masquerade as a Lebanese hardcore. Answer me this… How are you going to have a one nation (NOT your Forte obviously) when you criticize at every juncture the other camp ignoring its message? You see it is obvious to us real Lebanese that people like you want a Shiite government within the Lebanese state much like the PLO state was and no more. The message of Islam and of Shiism is at odds with the message of Christianity and YET Nadim is trying his best to find a commonality yet you condescendingly criticize. You see for me I do not give a hoot about his message I would have said that we are different yet we share this land and I would go the secular way. Why you may ask? Because the smart intelligent person you call Imam Ali who is ahlu el bayt said: “O peoples! Women are deficient in intelligence. As regards the deficiency in their faith, it is their abstention from prayers and fasting during their menstrual period. As regards deficiency in their intelligence, it is because the witnessing of two women is equal to that of one man. As for the deficiency of their shares, it is that their share in inheritance is half of men’s. So beware of the evils of women. Be on your guard even from those of them who are reportedly good. Do not obey them even in good things so that they may not attract you to evils.
      Read the above once more and ponder on it… Your own idol what he said… Then open a Christian bible… ignore everything in it and read the message of Jesus and then see the difference.

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Without turning this into a personal attacks, you concluded that I’m an “HA operative”, and I respect your right to your conclusions and opinions. As you know, I’ve never concealed my support for the idea of resistance, and never will. I supported resistance before the creation of HA, and I would support you and Nadim if you ever become defenders of Lebanon against Israeli aggression.. Years ago, I was accused of being, among other things, a leftist and a communist, and an operative for both because they resistance was led by both groups, When I was neither, and now I’m accused of being a HA operative. So, there is no surprise there. Typical Lebanese tradition, lol
        As to whether I’m a hard core Lebanese are not, you are not qualified, nor do you have any right to pass certificate of authenticity on whether one is a true Lebanese or not. You give me the option of being a HA operative/supporter or a hard core Lebanese, which means that more than half of Lebanese people are not true Lebanese in you views. Well, that equation speaks for itself, and no need to answer it either because these people who, you are denying them their patriotism and identity will not beg you for anything, and they need not to. They know they are Lebanese, and many of them paid for it dearly, at the hands of Nadim’s father and his likes. I don’t pick on dead people, so I won’t get into details since you know them. The least you can do is be honest and accurate when criticizing others.
        The video, which seems to have triggered some anger, speaks for itself. I didn’t criticize the messenger, nor the message. If you are a Bashir hard core supporter, come out and say it. You don’t need to conceal your political views, and sugar coated with secularism and agnosticism. There is no need to feel embarrassed if you supported Bashir. As we all know, everything historic event in Lebanon have different interpretation, and I will respect your interpretation of Bashir history.
        But since you want my opinion on this video, I will give it you, and then you can attack as much as you want. A Nadim Gemayel Speaking at an Ashura commemoration is exactly like inviting Osama Bin Laden’s son to speak at a Sept 11 commemoration. So now you have it. Although we should put it behind us, Nabaa and Birj Hamooud,and many other places,had witnessed massacres and ethnic cleaning at the hands of those who are lecturing us on the meaning of Ashura, and the teachings of Jesus. So, it is not the message that offended me, but those who are giving it to us, because they are not qualified .
        I won’t get into this tit for tat discussion on religion with you. I always refused to discuss religion on this blog, and you won’t drag me into it today. Imam Ali does not need me to defend him or his message, and I won’t answer you by looking into a bible for some negative statement about women or anything else. You claim of being an agnostic is a lie since. You asked for divorce last time we had an exchange, and I’m still waiting for the filling.lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Nadim was not born when Nabaa was cleansed from the PLO filth and their supporters… I was there and they had snipers everywhere shooting at anything that moved and firing with anti-aircrafts made for firing at airplanes at civilian buildings… yet daily we had a dose of heavy weaponry thrown at our civilians… Therefore we cleaned it from the foreigners… We have nothing to regret… The reason why the Lebanese have their country is because we defended with our blood the country from an enemy that at the time some of our so called compatriots called allies… Now that is treason my friend: Siding with the Palestinians against your own kind… or are we?

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      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        I was barely walking when your government allowed(no one asked us) the PLO to come in and operate in Lebanon and I was a child when The Nabaa ethnic cleaning (from the foreigners???)took place. Nabaa had no PLO in it. The PLO was in Telazaatar,which was also ethnically cleansed ,and all Palestinians civilians were murdered,by our fellow Lebanese.Send divorce papers,lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Exactly my point and thank you for reemphasizing that someone who wasn’t born then does not fathom the seriousness of being a traitor standing with foreign palestinians against your own people… Did you know that the Christian Maronites were the first to suggest the Cedar is the emblem of Lebanon and that Hezbollah wants to change it to Cannabis?
          One more thing tell el zaatar is Lebanese territory and on top of it it is Maronite Church property and we want the waqef back… It belongs to us and we want it back… Simple…
          We may have let them in as guests and now we want them out back to filthy Palestine and if you like Palestine so much with your “qaadimoun” people we will facilitate buses for you to go live there with the Jews as you both deserve each others. Actually you will fit well together there  as you both deny Jesus a God from God light from light and you both do not eat pork… Let us enjoy our Prosciutto now will you? 

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      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Tal azaatar may have been a property of the church, but the Palestinian refugees were not invaders. They were placed there by the Lebanese authority with the approval of the church. If the church wanted its property back, it would have been the responsibility of the authority to relocate these camps, not the responsibility of the phalange party to do so, and not by killing civilian people. For you appoint yourself a spokesman of the Maronite church, and make a claim that the church wanted its property back, you indirectly and unfairly implicating the church in the killings of thousands of civilians. Was Birj Hamoud and Nabaa owned by the church too? Were these area occupied by foreigners?

        Sympathizing with the Palestinian cause does not mean wanting to be a Palestinian. These people were wronged over and over. First by the Israelis, second by the so called international community, third by their own leadership, and fourth, by the Countries who hosted them and treated them like a tenth class animals. Your racist attitude makes you worse than the Israelis and the Nazis, and it is not worth replying to. All of your previous claims about equality and brotherhood in humanity have been exposed as hypocrisy. All of your pretention of being open minded and secular minded person is clearly unmasked, and your true feelings and thinking are becoming clear now. I’m glad you took off that humanistic and freedom loving mask. The buses you have facilitated might be of good use for the Palestinians to return to their land.As much I despised the PLO, i never consider the Palestinians as enemies,and I would never waiver my support to their just cause.Unlike you, I separate my emotions from my principles.
        Enjoy your Prosciutto, and I have no problem with your diet, but with your taste.
        Still waiting for divorce filling,lol

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        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Prophet Brother, Don’t waste your time, No matter what you Wright, or how much evidence you give, If you don’t criticize HA it means you are against most bloggers on this site. Furthermore Hannibal claims ( And I quote) The reason why the Lebanese have their country is because we defended with our blood. Although this might be true to a degree,What he has failed to mention is the reason the Christians have their safety in Lebanon today is because of Hezbollah. Now watch the criticizing start rolling in.  

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        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Hypocrite what started first? Damour or tell el zaatar? I do not need a Hizzie sleeper cell to give me lessons in patriotism… Ask your fellow shia what they did to the Palestinians in 7arb el moukhayyamaat…
          Nabaa and Birj Hammoud had SSNPs and Communists and Palestinian allies: They had to be defeated… I was there… They were shooting at us… what would you like us to do kneel and pray? Do you know that NOT one Shia village was touched in the heart of Jbeil and Keserwan? Get your facts right before you claim you are a peace loving neutral person.
          Look at your t’s dude? What all of sudden you transformed into some eloquent peace loving person? We all know who you are and everyone smells on you Hezboayran from a distance and it stinks…Crocodile tears misplaced as usual… Enjoy this youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5OMOWZ2jcQHamajj!!!

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      4. dateam Avatar
        dateam

        why are you so angry? i dont see how one can claim to be better than another or more righteous than another by defaming or mocking to prove their betterness? each to their own..religion is not about changing people or forcing them to change…its about simply being….somewhere along the line religion has been hijacked for political reasons whther christian , muslim,jew or whatever….all the prophets from jesus to moses to hussein or mohamad were revered, respected and adored because of their humbleness,humility and piaty….no money,no fame,no looking for glory…just a genuiness that has been lost….look at humanity now its all about power,how we look,keeping up with the jones’s,what we are wearing,driving,whose boobs are better,whose bum is hotter…..we still can not realise that its not the religion(s)….if anything the lebanese civil war is evidence of this….how many christians killed christians? how many muslims killed muslims? who is better than who? in gods eyes does he not see us as equals? if the answer is yes then who are we to judge others? just live…just look at people as people….then and only then can you have a civil society…..how can you say you want a secular society when you are bagging out another religion…..as a christian are we not taught to love thy neighbour? or is love thy neighbour if he is christian or muslim or jew or worships donkeys? life is simple but we complicate it…..live…just live….we complain about our so called leaders but we do nothing….

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      5. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        You are such an angry sectarian man. You keep opening your mouth and closing your eye.
        I don’t need to prove to you anything, bro. Think what you like, say what you want, and keep counting t’s. I just feel sorry for you, and wish you the best.
        Still waiting for divorce papers, lol

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          I get angry for the injustice of people like you judging others without really knowing the truth.  The only sectarians are people like you and Nasrallah when you prefer to sleep with the Iranians when your next door brother wants to build a nation… Do not feel sorry for me I am really happy in my skin… Keep blowing people off without regret like the recent Ashrafieh bombing which killed and maimed civilians and call the perpetrators resistance… You have no shame… But the day of reckoning is coming soon.

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      6. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Again. angry people don’t always listen to themselves  when they talk. You criticizing me for being judgmental  yet you judge me without knowing anything about me. On the day of reckoning,  make sure you ,being the keeper of the gate,shut the door of heaven if you see me coming.But I promise you that If I was at the gate, I would open the gate wide open for you,lol
        I think it is time to move on,brother.

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      7. Persistent Avatar
        Persistent

        I am for coexistence of all mankind, but I felt compelled to make a few points. No religion is flawless, you keep exonerating christianity and incriminating islam, some call it freedom of speech and that is fine by me. You keep saying move beyond the past albeit you keep going back to it. There is enough blame to go around. During the civil war, the lebanese public from every corner of the country have suffered and continue to suffer and there is noone who can realistically measure the extent of suffering. There is no denial that some moslems have done awful things and thanks to the the media, we are constantly reminded of it and there is no need to go into details but let me remind you, christianity have done its share of awful stuff and are not all that innocent, crusaders, serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo, the Russians in Chechynia, the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, although one can argue, the latter it was done for political reasons and not religious purposes. Christians kill christians and moslems kill moslems.
        One’s who live in glass homes should not cast stones at others, I am not qualified and neither are you or anyone else on this blog to judge someone’s religion by extracting out of context a say or a verse to score a point, before you criticize and lecture others about their faith, one should look at his own, women in the west are being exploited for profit everyday (and please do not tell me the western world hardly practices christianity), priests, bishops, cardinals, etc..who are supposed to be guiding people to a better life are destroying young boys life for good by abusing them and one needs to look at the root cause of it, christmas has lost its true meaning and has transformed into a materialistic arena and has become about who sells the most merchandise and how much profit one can make, the number of christians attending churches has fallen exponentially.
        So please save us the religious lecture. Let’s stick to building a bridge that will take all mankind to the destiny of love, peace, prosperity, happiness and well being. To keep repeating the old clache of who is done more wrong is not the way to move forward, we need to forgive and stop adding insult to injury.

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        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Great I am all for it as I am areligious… I criticize all and everyone… BUT I cannot forgive bigots and neither traitors denying the sacrifices of the Lebanese resistance… 

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    2. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      I wanted to reply and hit “Like” by mistake. This Fakeih, as you say, with his host Ahmad Al-Asaad, knows the interest of Lebanon and the Shiaa more than Nasrallah himself. Although I would not compare Christ with Hussein, a human who was in war with others over political power. Fine his speech is not very eloquent but it is a speech of unity, a speech of real Achouraa meaning, which is being with the victim and defending the right and just and not be a tyrant and impose yourself on others by force, which HA is exercising in Lebanon. This Fakeih’s father, sister, and cousin died for Lebanon and it’s freedom, independence and dignity. Anyways, thank you for the video, I have’t seen it before, and my sympathies for Aashoura for you and all the shiaa on this site. 

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Constantine, Thank you. I respect all religions and their traditions even though I don’t follow much.
        I have no problem with the message, but with the messengers (Al Assaad and the Gemayles). I just won’t accept a message from someone who is not genuine. Lebanese know how to lie about everything.
        Ahamd Al Assaad represents the worst of the worst in south Lebanon. His father and his grandfather, and their forefathers were the blood suckers of the southerners for hundreds of years. One thing I give his father credit for is that He didn’t have blood on his hand, but He sucked enough blood.
        We don’t need feudal families running our lives anymore, the Assaad’s, the Gemayels, The Khalil’s (of tyre), the Chamoun’s Jumblat’s, and all the others are part of the problem, and they can never be the solution. We can keep worshiping these feudal families. Just because someone inherits a feudal last name, it does not entitle them to leadership. Yes his and sisters died, but more than 200 thousand Lebanese died as well. The difference is that most of these people don’t have a feudal last name like the Assasd or Jumblat or Gemayle. His father was in politics and was leading wars, and He died defending his political agenda, and political dreams (I won’t pick on a dead man and his dreams now) while His sister was an innocent girl who died as a result of the criminal mentality that killed thousands of other young girls and boys in Lebanon. I personally know many-some were very close to me- and I’m Sure You do too. My contempt to all Feudal families and champions of the civil war, with no exception, is no secret on this blog.

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        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          I agree with you Prophetttt that we should get rid of all these feudal families, no question. And it is true that so many people lost their lives, and their lives are not less worthy than a famous person’s life. I don’t know much of the Assaad’s family activities in the South, but Ahmad el-Assaad himself when I listen to his speeches I completely agree with him.
          As for your respect to all religions, I appreciate your open mind and feel that one day you will have to revert to God and you will choose the right one (not the one in the Kuran) because deep inside you you know the truth, but you’re not ready to admit it. I don’t know why I am telling you all this, as I don’t know you at all but read your postings from time to time, but this is what I feel with you. With time I learnt to trust my intuitions and feelings, please forgive my audacity. Peace to you my friend 🙂 

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      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Sympathies for what? It was just a politician like all Arabs who inherited the post from his daddy and was killed for it… He was not a God from God… You see Jesus resurrected but obviously no other has…

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        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Relax Hannibal, you know my views about Jesus Christ and I never said Husein was God. My posting was pretty clear. Just cool it my friend…

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      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Constantine, Thank you. I have made my choice as a teenager that, faith isn’t about practicing one religion only, It’s about what you learn from religion to make you a better human. God created us all equal, yet different from each other. God created so many kinds of people, and He would not expect them all to pray one way. He created us with the capabilities to think and feel different; it is then, natural for him to expect us to follow different paths to reach him. God does not need people to pray for him one way or another.

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    3. Persistent Avatar
      Persistent

      I totally agree with you that the clip you posted speaks for itself, it was evident there couldn’t have been more than 50 people and I am being generous. It is sad if the christian community is represented and relying on a 25 yr and a 30 yr old Gemayel cousions to lead them through these difficult times.

      I remember my grandfather telling me this when I was a young boy, that a group of elderly from the neighboring villages went to Kamel beiks father (is it Ahmad)  and asked if he could build them a school, his answer to them was why do you need a school …I am educating Kamel for you…. 

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

         Persistent,  If you paid attention  to how many people were seated (usually reserved for honor guests,and clergy men)next to Al Assad,the host of this event;NONE. Isn’t that sad enough?How telling is that?
        Another story  that you may have heard of;The village of Hanin,where Kamel Beik used to spend time on weekends,is totally owned by him. Few thousand people,the residents of this village, do not own land,not even the land they live on,all work the land of the Beik,and his generosity guarantees they have enough food to survive. The Mukhtar of the village represented the Beik,and  ran the village.This is just one example of this feudal family’s blood sucking history. You and I know that may other villages are owned by the family.

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        1. Persistent Avatar
          Persistent

          Yes,  noone was sitting next to him and all alone, I know other families first hand such as “Aussairan” whom they robbed the people from all their land and belongings for food during the great depression or “Ayam Al Majaa” and they are called “Iqta3ying”. Now they have lost most of it back to the people including their prestige. As they say what goes around comes around, out with the old and in with the new….

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      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Sorry for double postings.

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    4. Moe28 Avatar
      Moe28

        Ahmad Assir the Wahhabi Gagea ally march 14th wants to bring the Free
      Syria Terrorist army  to Lebanon!! He declared it two days ago!!!! He
      wants to impose Wahhabi Sharia law and fight the Lebanese army the the Hizib

      http://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=QYjF1QdEHhE&feature=plcp

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      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Moe,
         I have always wondered whether some one’s name effects their personality or not.
         At least in this man’s case ,I think, it does. His first name Ahmad,which is a derivative of the name  Mohammad;the name of the Prophet. With a religious name,such as Ahmad, Mohammad, Jesus,Moses…… chances are that one will feel closer to the religion associated to that name.The problem is that  He thinks He represent the true Muslim faith.But again all fanatics have monopoly on truth and God.As for his last name,Assir which means prisoner; This guy became a prisoner of his own  twisted beliefs.
        But what I can’t explain is his twisted way of thinking and expressing his extreme views.
        I don’t ask anyone to take this theory to the bank…Just a thought,lol

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        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          And a good thought I might say Prophet.

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  7. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    The only times he comes out of his hole is when he must vomit.

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  8. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    The only times he comes out of his hole is when he must vomit.

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  9. wargame1 Avatar
    wargame1

     FSA captures the Marj Sultan Airport near Damascus . In the video at least 7 helicopter are seen and three of them are completely destroyed. The mujaheddin got many weapon and all the aircraft in the airport are under the possession of the mujaheddin. These killer birds wont be flying to drop bombs on the civilian. 

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  10. wargame1 Avatar
    wargame1

     FSA captures the Marj Sultan Airport near Damascus . In the video at least 7 helicopter are seen and three of them are completely destroyed. The mujaheddin got many weapon and all the aircraft in the airport are under the possession of the mujaheddin. These killer birds wont be flying to drop bombs on the civilian. 

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