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Three people have been killed in new Israeli air strikes on Gaza, pushing the death toll in six days of violence to 80 Palestinians, health officials say.

“The toll of martyrs has risen to 80 with the deaths of Nisma Abu Zorr, 23, Mohammed Abu Zorr, 5, and Ahid al-Qatati 35, in an air strike on the Azzam home in east Gaza City,” health ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra told AFP on Monday.

The strike in the Zeitun neighbourhood came after a night that saw Israeli war planes level a Gaza City police station as navy ships kept up sustained fire at the Gaza shore, AFP correspondents said.

The deaths came after multiple raids on Sunday that killed 31, in the bloodiest day of Israel’s bombing campaign, medics said.

The number of injuries rose over 700, officials said.

At least 10 children, five of them babies and toddlers, and six women were among those killed on Sunday, in attacks that came even as diplomatic efforts intensified to broker an end to the bloodshed which began on Wednesday.

The violence has also cost the lives of three Israelis and injured more than 50, according to medical sources.

By far the deadliest strike was in northern Gaza City where a missile levelled a three-storey building, killing nine members of the Al-Dallu family – five of them children – and two other people, medics said.

The Israeli army had no immediate comment on the strike, only saying the air force had hit “a few targets in northern Gaza City”.

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26 responses to “Gaza death toll rises to 80”

  1. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    So much have been posted about this round of Palestinian- Israeli war, and enough was said about the brutality of Israel and the blame game on Hamas and Israel, but not much have been said about the day after the cease fire which will be reached when Israel realizes that destroying Hamas is impossible, and that its deterrence capabilities are being diminished.
    One can write pages about the possible motives of Israel’s decision to launch this war, and what it was set out to accomplish for Netanyahu, who has never had the guts to engage in any large scale war with Palestinians or HA. Yes He always talked tough ,but He has never demonstrated any willingness to act on his tough words until He decided to test Hamas this time around. Although His killing machine is bombing the living hell of the Gazans, He appears to be reluctant to engage in a full scale land invasion.
    As I indicated earlier, a cease fire will be reached at one point, where enough killing and destruction have been accomplished, but no real political or military goals are to be expected. The question is what next?
    It’s obvious that Israel finds itself engaged in virtually a repeat scenario, as airstrikes pound Gaza, soldiers and tanks stand by on the borders ready to move in. Hundreds of missiles are launched every day from Gaza as retaliation against Israel’s attacks on civilians, military, and government offices.
    What is lacking is any plan for a long lasting solution, or any long term strategy. Instead, Israel has sort term “fixes” against the missiles in Gaza, but not for the Gazans; Deterrence is one of them, and serving notice to the revolutionary Arabs that Israel is still strong enough to do what it wants in the neighborhood with Mubarak, Assad or Mursi in power. Election is another one of those goals in this short-sighted Israeli strategy. Testing its military preparations in the after math of its failed 2006 war against HA is another goal of this war.
    What Israelis don’t realize, and don’t seem to be prepared for, is the takeover of Hamas over the Palestinians authority .It is a matter of time before Hamas takes over the PLO, and its authority in Ramallah, and become the legitimate representative of all Palestinians.
    Arab foreign ministers and other diplomats from various countries, some of whom are close allies of the US, are lining up to visit Gaza at a time an Israeli land-sea-air siege is in place and bombs are falling. This is an indication that Hamas is getting more legitimacy as the representative of Palestinians than any other time.
    Israelis are so short sighted; their deterrence is nothing but an illusion, their military power is nothing but a killing machine as well as a self-destructing tool, and their long term strategy on how they intend to live in this neighborhood is non-existent. As long as they think that they can force solutions on other, peace with Israelis will not be reached.
    Either a just and equally conditioned peace or this conflict will go on. One thing for sure, is that time will not be on the Israeli side.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Did you notice that every time the Israeli election gets near they flex their muscles? I doubt that Israel’s politicians have the Israelis best interest at heart much “a la” Lebanese politicians…;)

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        They’re supposed to be cousins,so no surprise if they behaved in similar manors.

    2. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      You have forgotten how US and 70+ countries including Iran attacked Afghanistan in the name of war on terror. The Argument was that Alqaeda supposedly carried out the 911 attack and Taliban was the one who were supposedly hosting that fantom group so if they destroy the Taliban then Alqaeda would be destroyed too and then Sadam had some connection with Alqaeda too !

      Here if you apply the same theory then it is Iran who have been killing Israeli civilians with rocket attack and some remote controlled bomb as they falsely claim suicide bomb. these baby killer groups are sponsored by Iran so Israel and america should bomb Iran and not the Palestinian civilians. These are not resistance rather fake and provocative crime where Iran and Israel have something to gain.

      Just bomb in a similar fashion in to Tehran civilian area and tell them that if they bomb Israeli civilian area then the next bomb would fall in to Iran and NOT Palestine  You will see the majoosi chockroaches will be hiding under their dirty hole. 

      But why this will not happen ? Because Iran and the Syrian regime helped NATO in invading Libya, Iran is directly helping USA and the coalition force in Iraq and in Afghanistan where Israel is also one of the beneficiaries.The puppets of both Iraq and Afghanistan are pro Iranian shia. If any move is taken against Iran then it will be equivalent to shoot  their own feet.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Bashar and Qaddafi were close friends… The Syrians had nothing to do with Libya… Besides the Libyans are helping the FSA… As I said before you are really biased and angry… 3an jadd 7araam

      2. Moe28 Avatar
        Moe28

        You need medication.

        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Have you got a particular brand you can recommend. Any help for poor Wargame is good.
          If not maybe you could suggest a doctor or two or ten.   

        2. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Argument  with this person is like  a Byzantine argument  ( الجدل البيزنطي) ,which is best translated as an “Argument for the sake of argument”. 
          One can throw twisted facts,irrational positions ,unreasonable assumptions,plenty of hatred at you regardless of what the subject is. That is when the argument is one sided ,and is only intended to  present one and only one twisted and poisoned view,with no intention or willingness to hear any other view. My humble guess is that He pats his own back every time He reads his own comments.
          No medications, no treatments ,and no doctor(or ten) can help. Save your money and your breath because it’s a hopeless and helpless case.lol
          I’m a little surprised that you even bother read any of his comments,because I don’t .

    3. Zubi Ganubi Avatar
      Zubi Ganubi

       I got so much to say regarding your post, you have the same
      unrealistic way of thinking like most of the arab world. i will just give you
      the highlights:

      Hamas do not recognize the right of Israel to exist or the Oslo agreement or
      the 67 borders – so what can you negotiate in a long term with Hamas? a truce? So
      he can build more bunkers and buy more missiles for the next round? it’s a waste
      of time. The US, EU knows that, some of the Arab countries don’t want to know
      that and they think that Israel will negotiate a “truce”, Israel will
      only negotiate the end of the conflict not a Tahadia.

      What is the Hamas trying to achieve by firing missiles to telaviv? maybe the
      Hamas failed to realize that Israel is here to stay, it doesn’t matter how much
      you fire on Israel, Israel will only shoot back 10 times more.

      The Hamas is financed and controlled by Iran, they tell them when to shoot and
      when to stop. now they need something to move the PR wars from Syria, that’s
      the only reason, they don’t care that a 100 or a 1000 pals will be killed in
      the process, like they don’t care how many Lebanese die of Syrians.

      the funny thing is that in the west bank, not a single missile was fired and no
      war for years and the pals are getting much more while taking the peaceful way.
      today you can find Microsoft and Intel development centers in Ramallah and
      Genin, could you see Microsoft opening a center in Gaza?

      The end game of israel is how to make the arab world recognize the right of
      Israel to exist. if you don’t recognize that than Israel will fight for it forever.
      Israel and the Pals knows how this will end, they already agreed on almost
      everything, Israel give back 100% of the land (67 with Corrections) Palestine
      is becoming demilitarized and forget about the right of return for the refugees
      to the israeli borders.

      The moment the pals put down their weapons the world and the Israelis will
      force thier government to sign a long term peace. unfortunately, arab leader
      need an outside enemy in order to fix inside problems, so Israel is a great
      target. but if you think about it, Israel is a democracy and democracies never
      goes to war against other democracies. maybe when you have one in Lebanon or Syria
      or Gaza, that will get the peace on the way.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Arrogance and stubbornness accompanied by strength, blind people and diminish their wisdom.This is the best way of describing Israeli leadership.
        True that Hamas does not recognize Israel  and the Oslo agreement,and You can’t blame them  because the Oslo agreement  did not satisfy the aspirations of Palestinian people, nor did it offer a just and comprehensive solution to the conflict. Israel considers all people living in Gaza are terrorists,so they have no incentives to recognize Israel.
        Hamas did not start this war.It was Israel ,by its assassination policies and inhuman siege of Gaza, that started this war.
        If Hamas is financed by Iran ,Israel is financed by the united states.So what if Iran or any other country supported and financed the Palestinians?Why is it OK for Israel to be armed and financed by others,and it is not OK for Palestinians to be financed by some others??. Unless you think that they are the chosen people,then my answer to that is God didn’t tell me that.
        Palestinians are always blamed by people like you for not taking a peaceful path. I don’t know how anyone can think peacefully when he or she is born under occupation by a country build through racism  brutality, siege,ethnic cleansing,and confiscation of land………and the list goes on.
        As Israel demands recognition  , Palestinians  demand the right to a fully independent viable state. A state that has the same rights as Israel . Israel needs to understand that if it wishes to be accepted, it can not consider itself above other countries. Either live in peace with equal rights, or this conflict goes on.
        Gone are the days where Israel thinks it can be the bully of the neighborhood. Other countries has as much rights to be armed,and to defend their sovereignty and people .Living through force and deterrence is no longer an option for Israel.
        Israel is delusional if it believes that the Palestinians and the Lebanese should lay down their weapons and submit to its condition for peace. No peace can be forced,and a forced peace(Oslo agreement) do not last.
        The only acceptable solution is for Israel to recognize a Palestinian state in the pre 76 war territories, dismantle all settlements build on Palestinian land in the west bank,including  east Jerusalem,and allow Palestinians to build their state ,and build a future for their children.
        Israel’s demand of democracies in the Arab world will be a realty in due time; Mubarak is gone,Assad is on the way out,and the story goes on. Soon,the Israelis will wish they didn’t demand democracies in the Arab world,because  democratically elected Arab governments  will not accept a bully Israel,Unlike the skeleton Arab leaderships of kings ,emirs and dictators who are nothing but impotent.

        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Prophet, well said except for the part where say Assad is almost gone. This my friend I have to disagree with you as I don’t believe it to be so.

  2. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    So much have been posted about this round of Palestinian- Israeli war, and enough was said about the brutality of Israel and the blame game on Hamas and Israel, but not much have been said about the day after the cease fire which will be reached when Israel realizes that destroying Hamas is impossible, and that its deterrence capabilities are being diminished.
    One can write pages about the possible motives of Israel’s decision to launch this war, and what it was set out to accomplish for Netanyahu, who has never had the guts to engage in any large scale war with Palestinians or HA. Yes He always talked tough ,but He has never demonstrated any willingness to act on his tough words until He decided to test Hamas this time around. Although His killing machine is bombing the living hell of the Gazans, He appears to be reluctant to engage in a full scale land invasion.
    As I indicated earlier, a cease fire will be reached at one point, where enough killing and destruction have been accomplished, but no real political or military goals are to be expected. The question is what next?
    It’s obvious that Israel finds itself engaged in virtually a repeat scenario, as airstrikes pound Gaza, soldiers and tanks stand by on the borders ready to move in. Hundreds of missiles are launched every day from Gaza as retaliation against Israel’s attacks on civilians, military, and government offices.
    What is lacking is any game plan for a long lasting solution, or any long term strategy. Instead, Israel has sort term “fixes” against the missiles in Gaza, but not for the Gazans; Deterrence is one of them, and serving notice to the revolutionary Arabs that Israel is still strong enough to do what it wants in the neighborhood with Mubarak, Assad or Mursi in power. Election is another one of those goals in this short-sighted Israeli strategy. Testing its military preparations in the after math of its failed 2006 war against HA is another goal of this war.
    What Israelis don’t realize, and don’t seem to be prepared for, is the takeover of Hamas over the Palestinians authority .It is a matter of time before Hamas takes over the PLO, and its authority in Ramallah, and become the legitimate representative of all Palestinians.
    Arab foreign ministers and other diplomats from various countries, some of whom are close allies of the US, are lining up to visit Gaza at a time an Israeli land-sea-air siege is in place and bombs are falling. This is an indication that Hamas is getting more legitimacy as the representative of Palestinians than any other time.
    Israelis are so short sighted; their deterrence is nothing but an illusion, their military power is nothing but a killing machine as well as a self-destructing tool, and their long term strategy on how they intend to live in this neighborhood is non-existent. As long as they think that they can force solutions on other, peace with Israelis will not be reached.
    Either a just and equally conditioned peace or this conflict will go on. One this for sure is that time will not be on the Israeli side.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Did you notice that every time the Israeli election gets near they flex their muscles? I doubt that Israel’s politicians have the Israelis best interest at heart much “a la” Lebanese politicians…;)

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        They’re supposed to be cousins,so no surprise if they behaved in similar manors.

    2. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      You have forgotten how US and 70+ countries including Iran attacked Afghanistan in the name of war on terror. The Argument was that Alqaeda supposedly carried out the 911 attack and Taliban was the one who were supposedly hosting that fantom group so if they destroy the Taliban then Alqaeda would be destroyed too and then Sadam had some connection with Alqaeda too !

      Here if you apply the same theory then it is Iran who have been killing Israeli civilians with rocket attack and some remote controlled bomb as they falsely claim suicide bomb. these baby killer groups are sponsored by Iran so Israel and america should bomb Iran and not the Palestinian civilians. These are not resistance rather fake and provocative crime where Iran and Israel have something to gain.

      Just bomb in a similar fashion in to Tehran civilian area and tell them that if they bomb Israeli civilian area then the next bomb would fall in to Iran and NOT Palestine  You will see the majoosi chockroaches will be hiding under their dirty hole. 

      But why this will not happen ? Because Iran and the Syrian regime helped NATO in invading Libya, Iran is directly helping USA and the coalition force in Iraq and in Afghanistan where Israel is also one of the beneficiaries.The puppets of both Iraq and Afghanistan are pro Iranian shia. If any move is taken against Iran then it will be equivalent to shoot  their own feet.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Bashar and Qaddafi were close friends… The Syrians had nothing to do with Libya… Besides the Libyans are helping the FSA… As I said before you are really biased and angry… 3an jadd 7araam

      2. Moe28 Avatar
        Moe28

        You need medication.

        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Have you got a particular brand you can recommend. Any help for poor Wargame is good.
          If not maybe you could suggest a doctor or two or ten.   

        2. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Argument  with this person is like  a Byzantine argument  ( الجدل البيزنطي) ,which is best translated as an “Argument for the sake of argument”. One can throw twisted facts,irrational positions ,unreasonable assumptions,plenty of hatred at you regardless of what the subject is. That is when the argument is one sided ,and is only intended to  present one and only one twisted and poisoned view,with no intention or willingness to hear any other view. 
          No medications, no treatments ,and no doctor(or ten) can help. Save your money and your breath .lol.
          I’m a little surprised that you even bother read any of his comments,because I don’t .

    3. Zubi Ganubi Avatar
      Zubi Ganubi

       I got so much to say regarding your post, you have the same
      unrealistic way of thinking like most of the arab world. i will just give you
      the highlights:

      Hamas do not recognize the right of Israel to exist or the Oslo agreement or
      the 67 borders – so what can you negotiate in a long term with Hamas? a truce? So
      he can build more bunkers and buy more missiles for the next round? it’s a waste
      of time. The US, EU knows that, some of the Arab countries don’t want to know
      that and they think that Israel will negotiate a “truce”, Israel will
      only negotiate the end of the conflict not a Tahadia.

      What is the Hamas trying to achieve by firing missiles to telaviv? maybe the
      Hamas failed to realize that Israel is here to stay, it doesn’t matter how much
      you fire on Israel, Israel will only shoot back 10 times more.

      The Hamas is financed and controlled by Iran, they tell them when to shoot and
      when to stop. now they need something to move the PR wars from Syria, that’s
      the only reason, they don’t care that a 100 or a 1000 pals will be killed in
      the process, like they don’t care how many Lebanese die of Syrians.

      the funny thing is that in the west bank, not a single missile was fired and no
      war for years and the pals are getting much more while taking the peaceful way.
      today you can find Microsoft and Intel development centers in Ramallah and
      Genin, could you see Microsoft opening a center in Gaza?

      The end game of israel is how to make the arab world recognize the right of
      Israel to exist. if you don’t recognize that than Israel will fight for it forever.
      Israel and the Pals knows how this will end, they already agreed on almost
      everything, Israel give back 100% of the land (67 with Corrections) Palestine
      is becoming demilitarized and forget about the right of return for the refugees
      to the israeli borders.

      The moment the pals put down their weapons the world and the Israelis will
      force thier government to sign a long term peace. unfortunately, arab leader
      need an outside enemy in order to fix inside problems, so Israel is a great
      target. but if you think about it, Israel is a democracy and democracies never
      goes to war against other democracies. maybe when you have one in Lebanon or Syria
      or Gaza, that will get the peace on the way.

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Arrogance and stubbornness accompanied by strength, blinds people and diminishes wisdom.This is the best way of describing Israeli leadership.
        True that Hamas does not recognize Israel  and the Oslo agreement,and You can’t blame them  because the Oslo agreement  did not satisfy the aspirations of Palestinian people, nor did it offer a just and comprehensive solution to the conflict. Israel considers all people living in Gaza are terrorists,so they have no intensive to recognize Israel.
        Hamas did not start this war.It was Israel ,by its assassination policies and inhuman siege of Gaza, that started this war.
        If Hamas is financed by Iran ,Israel is financed by the united states.So what if Iran or any other country supported and financed the Palestinians?Why is it OK for Israel to be armed and financed by others,and it is not OK for others?. Unless you think that they are the chosen people,then my answer to that is God didn’t tell me that.
        Palestinians are always blamed by people like you for not taking a peaceful path. I don’t know how anyone can think peacefully when he or she is born under occupation by a country build through racism  brutality, siege,ethnic cleansing,and confiscation of land………and the list goes on.
        As Israel demands recognition  , Palestinians  demand the right to a fully independent viable state. A state that has the same rights as Israel . Israel needs to understand that if it wishes to be accepted, it can not consider itself above other countries. Either live in peace with equal rights, or this conflict goes on.
        Gone are the days where Israel thinks it can be the bully of the neighborhood. Other countries has as much rights to be armed,and to defend their sovereignty and people .Living through force and deterrence is no longer an option for Israel.
        Israel is delusional if it believes that the Palestinians and the Lebanese should lay down their weapons and submit to its condition for peace. No peace can be forced,and a forced peace(Oslo agreement) do not last.
        The only acceptable solution is for Israel to recognize a Palestinian state in the pre 76 war, dismantle all settlements,including  east Jerusalem,and allow Palestine to build their state .
        Israel demand of democracies in the Arab world is a matter of time. Mubarak is gone,Assad is on the way out,and the story goes on. Soon,the Israelis will wish they didn’t demand democracies in the Arab world,because  democratically elected Arab governments  will not accept a bully Israel.

        1. FreetheME Avatar
          FreetheME

          Prophet, well said except for the part where say Assad is almost gone. This my friend I have to disagree with you as I don’t believe it to be so.

  3. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    FreetheME, I don’t know if Assad can stay in power for long, and even if He does, Syria has lost its power and influence as we know it.
    I never thought that the US and the west were eager to topple Assad. Their main intention was to weaken him and weaken Syria, and eventually illuminate it from the arena of influential countries in the region. Not that they would shed any tears if His regime collapsed. The only countries who wanted to topple Assad are the other dictatorships of the Middle East who all of a sudden decided to champion democracy and freedom for the Syrian people, while they are still depriving their people of both ,and oppressing them. They can’t give what what they don’t have.
    Whether the majority of Syrians wanted Assad out is also open for debate.That is not to say that Syrians were not oppressed by the the regime,but I believe the majority were -and still are- afraid of the alternative,and would have preferred Assad over the fundamentalists and the jihadists.
    If any one believes that the armed opposition, which is armed and financed by Arab dictators, would give freedom and democracy for the Syrian people, that person has to be totally insane to say the least.
    At the end of the day, the biggest losers in this conflict are the people of Syria. Syria has gone back in time more than 50 years as a result of this conflict.
    No matter how this conflict ends, the results are the same; hundreds of thousands of victims and orphans, millions of homeless and jobless people, ruined cities and towns, destroyed economy, corrupt and poisoned society, and shattered dreams……..
    We can debate who was right and who was wrong forever, but that does not change any of the destructive results. This was my view more than year ago, and it is still my view now.

    1. Persistent Avatar
      Persistent

      Prophet, Well said…. but I think the russians, the chinese and the iranians have invested so much in the regime, I do not think they are ready to withdraw their support  and abandom the ship yet. I am afraid the status-quo will continue for the unforeseeable future resulting in the correct diagnose you described. I think any logical person can see that.

      The Assad’s only fault is that he did not heed the warning from the west to divorce the axis of resistance and this is the price Syria and the Syrians had to pay, they are being used and going down the same path Lebanon has endured and by the way, Lebanon still has not recovered and I do not think it will,  the evidence are right infront of us, the culture and society are in a state of havoc, the differences are growing wider and becoming very difficult to bridge, sectarianisim and hatred are flourishing, if it is any indication just read the comments from some of the bloggers, it is onething to disagree with someone but it is something else to insult and demonize others who do not share the same view……

      I do not read too much into what the arab dictators say or do, they are irrelevant and incompetent, they will be deposed when they are done serving their purpose, they are pathetic and laughable to hear them say they are supporting freedom and democracy…. , I truly believe their turn will come one by one, it is just a matter of time. The dynamics in the entire world have changed and every nation is jockeying for a comfortable place in the face of the new realities…..

  4. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    FreetheME, I don’t know if Assad can stay in power for long, and even if He does, Syria has lost its power and influence as we know it.
    I never thought that the US and the west were eager to topple Assad. Their main intention was to weaken him and weaken Syria, and eventually illuminate it from the arena of influential countries in the region. Not that they would shed any tears of if His regime collapsed. The only countries who wanted to topple Assad are the other dictators of the Middle East who all of a sudden championed democracy and freedom for the Syrian people, while they are still oppressing their own people. No one can give what He or she lacks.
    If any one believes that the armed opposition, which is armed and financed by Arab dictators, would give freedom and democracy for the Syrian people, that person has to be totally insane to say the least.
    At the end of the day, the biggest losers in this conflict are the people of Syria. Syria has gone back in time more than 50 years as a result of this conflict. No matter how this conflict ends, the results are the same; hundreds of thousands of victims and orphans, Millions of homeless and jobless people, ruined cities and towns, destroyed economy, corrupt and poisoned society, and shattered dreams, ……..
    We can debate who was right and who was wrong forever, but that does not change any of the destructive results. This was my view more than year ago, and it is still my view now.

    1. Persistent Avatar
      Persistent

      Prophet, Well said…. but I think the russians, the chinese and the iranians have invested so much in the regime, I do not think they are ready to withdraw their support  and abandom the ship yet. I am afraid the status-quo will continue for the unforeseeable future resulting in the correct diagnose you described.

      The Assad’s only fault is that he did not heed the warning from the west to divorce the axis of resistance and this is the price Syria and the Syrians had to pay, they are being used and going down the same path similar to what Lebanon has endured and by the way, Lebanon still has not recovered and I do not think it will,  the evidence are right infront of us, the culture and society are in a state of havoc, the differences are growing wider and becoming very difficult to bridge, sectarianisim and hatred are flourishing,……

      I do not read too much into what the arab dictators say or do, they are irrelevant and incompetent, they are pathetic and laughable to hear them say they are supporting freedom and democracy…. The dynamics in the entire world have changed and every nation is jockeying for a comfortable place in the new realities, I truly believe their turn will come one by one, it is just a matter of time…..

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